/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.4702007]

When did you realize dairy was bullshit? Or are you still under the impression that it's essential?

[Anonymous No.4702018]

[Anonymous No.4702020]

[Anonymous No.4702026]

[Anonymous No.4702027]

Around the time I realized grain isn't essential.

[Anonymous No.4702029]

>>4702020

>not eating raw meat

[Anonymous No.4702035]

I really like stinky cheeses.

[Anonymous No.4702038]

>>4702020
>>4702018

something about these two comics. I just had epiphany... Why do I eat an animal I wouldn't personally kill?

[Anonymous No.4702041]

When will you stop shilling for your shitty paleo blog?

[Anonymous No.4702050]

>>4702041

I have no blog

[Anonymous No.4702052]

>>4702050
answer the question

[Anonymous No.4702054]

>>4702020

I don't know why we eat animals if there's plants that gives even more nutrients even proteins. Idk why we started but I am determined to change it for the better of our world.

[Anonymous No.4702058]

>>4702052

I don't have a blog. Why are you so upset? This post is about food, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.4702059]

>>4702038
>not being willing to personally slaughter a cow

bawk bawk bawwwkkkkkk

[Anonymous No.4702061]

>>4702058
>u mad

lol confirmed blog owner

post your blog so i can report you for viral.

[Anonymous No.4702069]

>>4702061

I'm honestly overwhelmed by this amount of mad. Don't even know how to begin to handle it. This is my last comment to you

[Anonymous No.4702072]

>>4702059

sorry. Just can't imagine myself doing it

[Anonymous No.4702075]

I'm not a fan of milk myself but all the other dairy ingredients are absolutely fantastic.

I've been eating a lot of greek yogurt + honey + dark unsweetened chocolate lately for desserts. I'm not a dessert eater at all but the sweet, sour combination is amazing.

[Anonymous No.4702085]

One day I caught onto the fact that when I would drink milk I would have severe diarrhea. What a concept!

I'm fine with cheese though, which is weird. I would have the same symptoms if I were lactose intolerant right? I eat all kinds of cheeses no problem.

[Anonymous No.4702091]

>>4702054

[Anonymous No.4702114]

>>4702069
reported for viral marketing

PIDF pls go

[Anonymous No.4702116]

>>4702007
>essential
This is /ck/, not /fit/. Food, and especially cooking, is not just about what's essential.

[Anonymous No.4702129]

>>4702018
what is the point here? is it pointing out that cattle rangers have not yet thought to swindle people the way other industries to by charging them money to do all the work for their own product?
>>4702020
>implying lions or any other carnivore bites through the hide
>implying they don't bite through the fleshy underbelly and rip the skin away after the incisions is made
>>4702026
>implying the mass majority of foodborne illnesses do not come from green vegetables
>implying you can't eat raw chicken without getting sick
do you even know how to contamination?

[Anonymous No.4702136]

>>4702129

so go bite the underbelly of a cow and rip its guts out. Eat the entrails off the ground like a lion would.

[Anonymous No.4702139]

>>4702136
ok? why do you think I would have any problem doing that?

I'm going to assume you don't hunt, pretty common to snack on the raw organs while you are field dressing the kill if you have been out for a while

[Anonymous No.4702140]

[Anonymous No.4702141]

>>4702007
rosemary goes in all fields

[Anonymous No.4702145]

[Anonymous No.4702150]

[Anonymous No.4702153]

no matter how hard you spam your shit images you will neither get discussion or convert anyone to your cause

just wanted to let you know :^)

[Anonymous No.4702155]

[Anonymous No.4702157]

>>4702155
>sentient
>want to live
nooope, that isn't what sentience means.
These pictures keep getting dumber and dumber

[Anonymous No.4702158]

>>4702157

[Anonymous No.4702161]

>>4702153
just make sure to report them all

[Anonymous No.4702162]

>>4702157
lol, he thinks he's making us mad

[Anonymous No.4702163]

>>4702161

[Anonymous No.4702164]

>>4702158
I'll tell you what, as soon as an animal I plan on eating says that to me I will stop eating meat

[Anonymous No.4702165]

>>4702155
2muchpropaganda4me

[Anonymous No.4702166]

>>4702163
>an image that goes so far as to just make shit up

[Anonymous No.4702167]

>>4702155
yeah, the cow can grow to be almost 1500 pounds, you would have to be stupid to kill it so young

[Anonymous No.4702168]

>>4702164
>>4702165

look at this hivemind guilt. crazy

[Anonymous No.4702171]

>>4702163
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcnH_TOqi3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZhsM9OzeEo

[Anonymous No.4702173]

>>4702167
>2013
>Not eating veal


Lol scrub. What's the matter, too pussy?

[Anonymous No.4702176]

Vegetarianism:

>I'm too much of a pussy to kill an animal so you must be too. I justify my own insecurities by projecting them on to everyone else.

[Anonymous No.4702177]

>>4702168
I am actually about to cook a steak, trust me when I say you are wasting your time here

[Anonymous No.4702179]

>>4702163
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQOQdBLHrLk

[Anonymous No.4702180]

and emsicsfr

[Anonymous No.4702184]

>>4702173
veal is tasteless, it sucks. I do like piglets, whole, roasted, filled with garlic and sown up. Kids and lambs are delicious, hooman babies I suppose taste nice, of course, the bitch should be vegan to ensure that they don't taste like conservatives and antibiotics.

I just believe that baby cows should grow up to be full cows so I can get more and better tastier meat out of them.

[Anonymous No.4702187]

>>4702180
not skinned or deboned, they didn't even clean off the hair. And didn't even fucking drain the blood. There appears to be a non-edible casing trussed on part of the meat for no clear reason.

1/10 would not revisit that butcher shop. I've seen 10 year olds field dress more effectively.

[Anonymous No.4702192]

>>4702007
when did you realise that not eating dairy was bullshit? It tastes good so fuck you

[Anonymous No.4702193]

lol we scared OP off

[Anonymous No.4702195]

>>4702193
facts will often do that to a vegan
when you start to throw evolution, primatology, and the fact that there are no true herbivores in nature at them they run off

[Anonymous No.4702200]

>>4702179

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaEJ9WXlCuE

[Anonymous No.4702203]

>>4702195

not op. but this is just wrong

[Anonymous No.4702204]

>>4702179
that's just... just.... GREAT!!!
Especially for you... rancho grande mamá
http://www.jokeroo.com/videos/funny/vegetarian-other-point-view.html

[Anonymous No.4702205]

>>4702007
>not enjoying Camembert with sliced pears and batard

what kind of hell do you live in, OP

[Anonymous No.4702211]

>>4702203
all herbivores will engage in meat eating, they may not actively seek it out but don't think they will not opportunistically eat meat when they come across it

put some lettuce and some wet dog food in front of a tortoise and watch which one it makes a beeline for

[Anonymous No.4702216]

>>4702129
>implying lions or any other carnivore bites through the hide
>implying they don't bite through the fleshy underbelly and rip the skin away after the incisions is made
There's hide on the "fleshy underbelly" too you know.
>implying there's no hide on the underbelly

>implying the mass majority of foodborne illnesses do not come from green vegetables
I'll refrain from just calling bullshit and instead ask for citations.

>implying you can't eat raw chicken without getting sick
I'll word this carefully: people cannot eat the vast majority of commercial raw chicken without a very high risk of getting sick.

If you're going to try to weasel out of this by saying something like "well good chicken isn't like that commercial shit and I meant the good stuff" I'm going to point out in advance that this is a No True Scotsman. So, uh, don't try that.

[Anonymous No.4702219]

Sounds like someone is lactose intolerant.

I'm sorry that you're a subhuman that never evolved to be able to handle lactose into adulthood like us superior beings.

[Anonymous No.4702221]

>>4702219

we're all lactose intolerant

[Anonymous No.4702222]

it's not essential, but it's fucking delicious.

[Anonymous No.4702229]

>>4702166
You got that right!

Shee-it, I thought for a second it would actually be good, but it's simply vegetarian propaganda piece, with little basis in reality.

[Anonymous No.4702230]

It's funny that most people know cheese is bad for you, but if you just prepare it differently to make it look fancier, suddenly people start saying "but THIS is HEALTHY cheese, it's GOOD for you because it looks nice and I put it on salad!"

[Anonymous No.4702228]

>>4702216
>No True Scotsman
No true weasel would get sick because of eating a chicken.
>Hide, underbelly??
It's called belly, it's not hide, it's delicious bacon.

[Anonymous No.4702231]

>>4702216
>implying there's no hide on the underbelly
you ever see those cow "mutilations"
its because they rip out their guts from the udder or chew out the rectum, the mouth too, anywhere that is soft and easy to chew into
>I'll refrain from just calling bullshit and instead ask for citations.
the CDC http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/19/3/11-1866_article.htm

as for the chicken thing, it has nothing to do with the chicken itself, it is how commercial chickens are exposed to contamination, the meat is perfectly fine and is being contaminated by outside practices.
If I caught a wild chicken I could eat it raw with no ill effects, and in many countries you can even eat their commercial raw chicken with no problem

[Anonymous No.4702233]

>>4702221
Lolno. Who told you that? I can handle milk just fine without having digestive problems. I drank a half gallon of milk every day for 2 months straight and never once did I get diarrhea.

Are you black or asian by any chance?

[Anonymous No.4702235]

>>4702233

master race here. I, like every other animal in the animal kingdom, do not eat my mother's milk past my youth. I especially don't consume another specie's milk

[Anonymous No.4702238]

>>4702231

>An estimated 26,000 (46%) annual hospitalizations were attributed to land animal commodities, 24,000 (41%) to plant commodities, and 3,000 (6%) to aquatic animal commodities

[Anonymous No.4702239]

>>4702235
that is pretty stupid of you to not make use of an easily attainable, and renewable food

[Anonymous No.4702240]

>>4702235
But that doesn't make you master race.

That puts you on a level below well evolved humans. The same level as a common animal.

[Anonymous No.4702242]

>>4702231

>An estimated 629 (43%) deaths each year were attributed to land animal, 363 (25%) to plant, and 94 (6%) to aquatic commodities (Table 3). Meat-poultry commodities accounted for 29% of deaths and produce 23%. Among the 17 commodities, poultry accounted for the most deaths (19%), followed by dairy (10%), vine-stalk vegetables (7%), fruits-nuts (6%), and leafy vegetables (6%)

Man, you picked a bad source to try to prove your point with

[Anonymous No.4702243]

>>4702242
>implying deaths and illnesses are the same
read the fucking conversation, bozo

[Anonymous No.4702246]

>>4702239

It's pretty stupid to eat something that isn't healthy

[Anonymous No.4702247]

>>4702244
>I still haven't read the conversation so imma just samefag

[Anonymous No.4702244]

>>4702242

carnivores rekt

[Anonymous No.4702249]

>>4702246
If you think something being macro dense makes it unhealthy you are pretty dumb

[Anonymous No.4702251]

>>4702249

>macro dense

It's full of saturated fat and cancer and diabetes promoting properties

[Anonymous No.4702256]

>>4702251
so what you are saying is it's macro dense and you are too stupid to drink responsibly, I understand

[Anonymous No.4702257]

>>4702219
this image has me literally in tears. holy fuck it should not be this funny

[Anonymous No.4702258]

>>4702256

I'm saying anything I would want from milk I can get from healthier sources, and you're a retard addicted to casomorphins like a baby cow

[Anonymous No.4702259]

I love the rejection itt. Cheese is just simply bad for the human body and people still cling to it. lol.. Stuck on that fast food diet

[Anonymous No.4702260]

I'm still under the impression that dairy is delicious.

[Anonymous No.4702261]

>>4702258
you seem to be under the impression I even drink milk, I am certainly not drinking milk for that deliciously bland raw milk flavor. I am making stuff with it, stuff that you will never enjoy because your life is a hollow shell.

and the best part is that at the end of the day I am still more physically fit than you, guaranteed

[Anonymous No.4702266]

>>4702261

>buy almond milk
>make the same shit but healthy

>actually work out as well
>some DYEL milk-drinker on /ck/ thinks he's more physically fit than me

The game continues

[Anonymous No.4702271]

>>4702007
essential, no
delicious, yes

but you can seriously live off some cheeses and stout. Ive seen it.

[Anonymous No.4702272]

>>4702260
too bad everything that's good gives you kankers or at least takes time of your life (the time you spend enjoying it)

[Anonymous No.4702270]

When we nourish our bodies in this way, we are actually feeding ourselves foods that are designed for human consumption. This may sound a little strange at first, but it's true - much of the 'food' consumed on the standard UK and American diets, is not fit for human consumption at all. This includes refined, processed, saturated fat and cholestrol filled foods.

We, as humans, are the only species on earth that play around with our food; for one example, by putting fire to it before eating it, thus making us the unhealthiest species around today. We need to look at ways in which we can live and nourish ourselves in a more natural way. This is the one underlying factor that can have miraculous consequences on our health, as a nation.

[Anonymous No.4702273]

>>4702272
I haven't enjoyed my life in over four years.

[Anonymous No.4702274]

>>4702266
your almond milk will not produce the same results because it has a different chemical make up

kid, there are very few people in the world that are in all around better condition than I am, I eat what I want because I need to put 6000-7000 calories down a day during training which is my full time job.
I have monthly full body physicals, have my blood pressure and heart rate checked more than once daily, I know everything going on in my body at all times and I know it is better than yours.

[Anonymous No.4702277]

>>4702274

You think you're swole, pussy? You'll be dead by 40, I'll be in peak health well past 100

[Anonymous No.4702279]

>>4702274

say that to my face irl see what happens m8. ill fucken drop you m8

[Anonymous No.4702281]

>>4702155
Does the kid get slaughtered? Damn, I hope the kid gets slaughtered.

[Anonymous No.4702282]

>>4702277
"well past 100". Sure.

[Anonymous No.4702286]

>>4702281

epic bro XD

super edgy lol couple more comments and the dudebros will accept you XD

[Anonymous No.4702288]

>>4702277
filename, this was taken last week

[Anonymous No.4702291]

I eat meat and cheese because I fucking like it. It's about quality of life. Something you probably don't understand at all because you're too busy guilt tripping yourself and projecting said guilt onto others who surely must feel the same way. Choke.

[Anonymous No.4702289]

>>4702273
well you should, get some kankers and live the living life of the living.
Gubment's gonna take it all anyway!

[Anonymous No.4702295]

>>4702288

>weightlifter who thinks he's healthy because he has more muscle than the average guy who doesn't lift

There's been millions just like you, and millions much more impressive. They all go to shit because their terrible diets they use to build their muscles catch up with them, as well as the tren/clen and whatever else they're on

[Anonymous No.4702296]

>>4702282
and if you believe in a sky daddy you'll be saved from what he'll do to you if you don't!

[Anonymous No.4702300]

The amount of vegan hipster bs in this thread is off the charts

[Anonymous No.4702302]

>>4702171
This was hard to watch. cest la vie

[Anonymous No.4702324]

>>4702274
>kid

lol people still act like this on 4chan?

i thought you guys died out when everyone made fun of you guys for being faggots

>>>/g/

[Anonymous No.4702327]

>>4702085
You're probably lactose intolerant. Most cheese has little lactose since the bacteria in the culture eat it. Softer cheese will have more lactose. I'm a little bit lactose intolerant. It depends on how much lactase your body produces.

[Anonymous No.4702341]

at age 21 when my mom got cancer from it

[Anonymous No.4702342]

>essential

That's a funny way to spell "delicious," which is why I eat and drink dairy.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go eat a block of cheddar.

[Anonymous No.4702367]

>>4702007
It's essentially delicious.

[Anonymous No.4702375]

>>4702163
>>facial muscles
>>developed
>>implying our jaw muscles didn't dramatically reduce from apes which was imperitive for our skulls to balloon outward into intelligence.

[Anonymous No.4702384]

>>4702171
As hard as that is to watch I still can't help but laugh at how nonchalant the baboons are about the whole thing.

[Not Sceak No.4702390]

>>4702007

It's not essential, but it was instrumental to rapid development. Whether that was a good thing or not is irrelevant to this discussion, but dairy allowed primitive humans to live without actually killing anything, which could then be killed in grimmer times and provide sustenance for a long period.

It's also instrumental because it contains an opioid analogue, which helps a lot of people carry on.

The fact remains that Earth could sustain its current evolutionary momentum with about 100,000 people, probably even a lot less. The rest only serve to sustain themselves.

[Anonymous No.4702427]

>>4702085
It's because white cheese contains only a small amount of lactose. During the "cheese-making" process bacterias break down lactose. 100 g of white cheese normally contains less than 0,5 g of lactose, which pretty much everyone can tolerate unless you're very special. Same goes for yoghurt and sourmilk, but they have a slighty higher level of lactose so you can't eat too much of that.

[Anonymous No.4702438]

Why do you lactose intolerant/paleo/vegans feel the need to present your false opinions as facts? Dairy is healthy and always has been. Many cultures have lived off of dairy as a main source of nutrients for a very long time. Accept what you can't eat or for some reason have decided not to eat and just go on with your lives.

Or is there some bullshit book like "the wheat belly" equivalent for dairy products that's causing this recent rise in propaganda?

[Anonymous No.4702449]

>>4702270
Not everything is better for you when it's raw. Cooking and fermenting grains makes them better for you. It destroys phytic acid.

Cooking also lets us get more energy from foods. Herbivores spend all day eating, because they don't get enough calories and energy if they don't. Cooking is natural. We evolved with the ability to cook. Starchy foods and eggs are better for you when they're cooked, too. It makes no sense to say "We need tools to do X, so that makes it bad."

[Anonymous No.4702459]

beause oreos in milk is fucking fantastic.

oreos in almond milk is fucking not

[Anonymous No.4702461]

Dairy is fine but keep milk in moderation otherwise you will gain weight very quickly.

[Anonymous No.4702466]

Hey where is this almond milk popularity coming from all of a sudden? I swear I've only ever heard of it through this board and only in the last month. Is this a new product? Why are people in love with it?

[Anonymous No.4702467]

How can dairy, milk specifically, be unessential for us if mammals are the only form of life that can produce it? Surely it's not vestigial is it?

[Anonymous No.4702468]

>>4702466
It's ground almonds. it's a dairy alternative for those that are lactose intolerant. it has a nice flavor to it as well so it works in various recipes.

[Anonymous No.4702470]

>>4702468
What's the nutrition like? I'd expect it would have much less protein and calcium

[Anonymous No.4702481]

>>4702007
Consuming dairy is either bullshit or essential according to your rather loaded question .
I don't follow the school of thought that people should only consume things that are essential so you're not leaving any room for discussion.

[Anonymous No.4702489]

Arguments always boil down to, “If humans were meant to blank we would have evolved to blank.” People forget that because we evolved smarts, we figured out ways for us to blank without having to change physically. Our brains evolved so that we can now blank without needing blank. Therefore my argument is that we can blank in the way that our nature intended us to blank.

[Anonymous No.4702490]

>>4702020
Fools!
First you tip the cow then you choke it out with a headlock.

[Anonymous No.4702508]

>>4702054
And what magical plant is better than free range meat? gmo soya?

[Anonymous No.4702514]

>>4702153
Vegetarians are so cute, they are like confused children.
I am ok with the social justice warrior crowd calling me a barbarian.

[Anonymous No.4702516]

>>4702470
it does.

[Chloe No.4702528]

I love dairy, but I have to stop eating it because
I'm developping a lactose intolerance ...
Damn genetics and Asian origins.
In addition, I am a vegetarian ... Everybody
was already bullshitting about my regime,
now it will become worse...

[Anonymous No.4702737]

>>4702231
>as for the chicken thing, it has nothing to do with the chicken itself, it is how commercial chickens are exposed to contamination, the meat is perfectly fine and is being contaminated by outside practices.
Er, I'm sorry but you're simply ill-informed.

The salmonella in commercial chicken meat and in eggs is not down to contamination in the way you're stating, modern meat processing is specifically geared towards minimising this so that you don't get epidemics of food poisoning. Even wild birds may have high natural levels of salmonella, so that for example even their eggs are not safe to consume raw. They being 'contaminated' too?

>the CDC http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/19/3/11-1866_article.htm
Look I know you had to hastily look for an actual source to back up that statement but FFS it actually shows the exact opposite! I don't know if you just made that up on the spot or you've long believed it to be true but either way I'm officially calling bullshit.

[Anonymous No.4702755]

>>4702737

Actually modern meat processing is specifically geared towards gaming the system, which is why the poultry industry successfully lobbied for new processing methods that cause the bacteria tests to show false negatives, reduce processing time by a few fractions of a second, save a few million bucks for senior management, and give all the workers horrible diseases. They know everyone has been trained from birth to nuke the living shit out of their meat because it's just taken for granted that anything from modern chickens is essentially a biohazard, so it doesn't matter.

Enjoy your inexpensive meat.

[Anonymous No.4702758]

It isn't essential. I'm just grateful evolution lets me enjoy cream in my coffee, ice cream, and delicious cheese.

Everything in moderation you ass pies.

[Anonymous No.4703414]

>>4702489

> People forget that because we evolved smarts, we figured out ways for us to blank without having to change physically

Why do you think doing something we aren't physically designed to do is smart? Just because we're smart enough to know how to do it doesn't mean it's a good thing to do

[Anonymous No.4703438]

>>4702755
We had a strip loin come in like that. The pus cyst was near the middle.

The distributor thoroughly apologized and gave us several newer loins that they had obviously handpicked as they were better quality than we usually get.

That image is pretty ignorant. Sometimes a sick or injured animal gets slaughtered. And sometimes shit happens and we take care of it. You won't be eating meat from something like that in any reputable restaurant.

[Anonymous No.4703459]

>>4702187
This

Whoever packaged that has no respect for the craft of butchering, or the animal whose life was sacrificed for consumption.

ffs, if you don't know how to get good cuts, at least debone and make some sausage. That one looks a little lean so you'd want to throw in some fatback.

[Anonymous No.4703469]

>>4702270
>cholesterols bad for you mmkay

ITT vegans pretend to know about healthy food

[Anonymous No.4703478]

>People still label individual foods healthy/unhealthy
Idiots

[Anonymous No.4703479]

>>4702038
Oh look, another vegan samefag thread.

[Anonymous No.4703488]

dairy is amazing

thank you white genes
niggers are just mad they are lactose intolerant

[Anonymous No.4703491]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJvrlwnEqbs

[Anonymous No.4703515]

man i stopped eating red meat and my shits are way less intense
radical

[Anonymous No.4705285]

>>4702072
You're a faggot then. I would happily kill a cow.

[Anonymous No.4705291]

>>4702129
>>4702216
>>4702231

About the chicken thing - I was speaking to an anon in another topic who was saying that the 'chicken is all contaminated with salmonella, you have to cook it 100% through or you'll get sick' thing is a myth, and that there's no reason why chicken meat wouldn't work the same as beef, i.e. the inside is always going to be free of contaminants for the simple reason that it's 'inside', with no way for anything to get in. He said that some cultures enjoy rare chicken, but the reason we don't is mainly because of taste, not because of salmonella.

Is that true? If not, why does chicken meat work differently to beef with regards to the contamination thing?

[Anonymous No.4705334]

>>4702163
So much bullshit in this picture.

[Anonymous No.4705337]

>>4705291
When its the last time you bought a steak with the skin on?

[Anonymous No.4705354]

>>4705337
What's your point?