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Hey /ck/

Can anyone describe what pastrami tastes like? I've never tried it before because I'm living in Australia so it's a rarity over here.

I assume that it tastes like corned beef and spam and whenever I see it on TV they always stack a shit ton on the sandwiches. It looks salty as hell.

Does it taste like it looks?

>> No.4686206

It's more like corned beef than spam. I guess if you want you can think of it as being like corned beef but with a lot of black pepper crust.

The real stuff you find in restaurants such as Katz's which you may have seen on TV is prepared from raw beef according to the house recipe. It's quite tender, not so ridiculously salty, and should be sliced thick like you see in that picture. There's another variety you get in cheap sandwich shops that comes from the factory, a common brand is Boar's Head. This isn't much like restaurant pastrami and is more like any other preserved luncheon meat.

It's not like spam at all since it is not made of ground meat, and spam is made of pork.

>> No.4686205

>>4686192
Tastes like grocery store hotdogs.

Not even joking, that's what it tastes like.

>> No.4686210

>>4686206
yeah its sort of like richer roast beef and very peppery

>> No.4686213

>>4686205
>not a new yorker

It's pretty magical OP. Superior to corned beef, not salty, just perfect. Of course the quality varies wildly. Find a nice Jewish neighborhood in NYC and do it right.

>> No.4686224

>>4686206
I wish I lived in America. Sounds magical.

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>>4686213
>nice
>Jewish neighborhood in NYC

Pick one.

>Saturday afternoon: hey you hey you filthy goy
>can you flip this light switch for me, G-d doesn't care about goyim doing trayf things
>uh no sorry I'm busy
>ANTISEMITISM, SHOMRIM ARREST THIS MAN!

>> No.4686255

>>4686192
>assume that it tastes like corned beef
basically

>> No.4686257

>>4686206
>Boars head
>cheap

what?

>> No.4686263

>>4686257

Yes, cheap. I like it just fine but it's more like an alternate product with the same name rather than a cheaper version of the real thing.

I've heard those boars head commercials on the radio, the ones that describe it as an expensive premium product. That's just an advertisement, you shouldn't take it too seriously. Come to NYC some time and learn.

>> No.4686274

>>4686263
I am not saying its as good as stuff made in house at a certain percentage of New York delis

just that its about $10 a pound (which isn't very cheap), and as far as lunch meat goes its the very top end of what you can find at grocery stores. I used to work at a Boars Head grocery store deli in high school, and I can't go back to buying the cheaper stuff now, the difference is very noticeable

>> No.4686289

>>4686274

It's cheap. A proper pastrami sandwich costs around $17 these days. A sandwich made of the stuff Boars Head calls pastrami is about 8 bucks. And the texture and flavor are completely different.

I imagine there are perceptible differences between grocery store pastrami brands, but in the grand scheme of things, they're going to be much more similar to one another than they are to actual pastrami.

>> No.4686293

>>4686289
i just mean Boars Head meats in general, not the pastrami

also everything in New York costs more than an identical product would elsewhere, so thats a little misleading

>> No.4686331

>>4686293

They have boars head here too. The 8 bucks was the NYC price. Are you concerned that someone might think Boar's Head brand isn't slightly more expensive and slightly tastier than Kraft brand? I apologize if I made it sound like that. By grocery store standards, Boar's Head is probably slightly better and slightly higher priced than Kraft, but I'll defer to your expertise on that. Meanwhile, the restaurant stuff is a completely different product that happens to share the same name.

>> No.4686339

>>4686331
>y grocery store standards, Boar's Head is probably slightly better and slightly higher priced than Kraft
You are really underselling this, the difference is striking, and the price is about double.

For one, Boars Head uses actual solid pieces of meat, not reconstituted scraps mixed with seaweed like Kraft

>> No.4686357

The only pastrami I've ever had was turkey pastrami, and it was not salty, it was actually a little peppery. In my opinion it is really good.

>> No.4686363

>>4686192
taste like salty milk and coins

>> No.4686394

>>4686206
How much does it cost for a sandwich at Katz?

>> No.4686416

Pastrami is basically smoked and peppered corned beef. I make it myself fairly often. You brine (or "corn") a brisket, then coat it with cracked pepper and some other spices and seasonings and smoke it. Love, love pastrami.

>> No.4686426

>>4686206
any jewish deli worth a damn makes their own Corned beef and pastrami. I don't live in New York, but I have two delis around the corner from me. Both make amazing cornbeef/pastrami.

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>>4686331
>>4686289
>I ate a $17 sandwich once so every sandwich that costs less is inferior

>> No.4686433

>living in Australia so it's a rarity over here
you can get it at any supermarket deli..

>> No.4686442
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>>4686429
>I'm poor, I live in flyover land, and sometimes on payday I splurge on foods with "real" on the label because to me "normal" means food made from corn byproducts specially designed to resemble something that it isn't

>> No.4686446

>>4686442
just because you rip yourself off doesn't mean everything else sold in the rest of the country is inferior

its all the same shit, you eat just as much corn based products as the rest of us

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>>4686446

I lol'd because it sounds like you actually believe this and are not trolling

>> No.4686451

>>4686448
let me guess, you think the pizza in new york is special too

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>>4686442
>>I'm poor, I live in flyover land
what?

>> No.4686462

>>4686451

Let me guess, you were trolled by /ck/ into visiting Two Bros Pizza and maybe the 53rd street Halal cart, and now you're mad that you wasted money on garbage food.

>> No.4686471

>>4686462
anyone spending any portion of time in New York better be prepared to waste money

>> No.4686505

>>4686433
No one wants to eat that cold shit.

>> No.4686661

>>4686205
No it doesn't. wtf are you talking about? Go to a real sandwich joint, you tard.

>> No.4686697

Its nothing like spam or hot dogs, and the huge stack thing is a gimmick. Its ridiculous to think you need to go to katz in NYC (which is great, but like everything there is too crowed and expensive) to get a good pastrami, there are good (even jewish) delis all over. I prefer a corned beef reuben myself, but have made pastrami at home with good results.

http://www.amazingribs.com/recipes/beef/close_to_katzs_home_made_pastrami.html

>> No.4686701

>>4686289

this is hilarious considering the history of this fine dish

>> No.4686713

>>4686701
are you the guy who always brings up lobster being a peasant food and misinterprets the awkward silence as wonderment rather than just awkwardness?

>> No.4686721

>>4686213
>jewish neighborhoods
>nice

>> No.4686722

>>4686451
not they guy you were replying to, but I've had orgasmically great pizza in their respective styles in NYC, Chicago, and Napoli- but the best pizza i have ever eaten was from a brick oven open only on friday and saturday nights on a small farm in charlotte Vermont. Garlic oil, mozz, fresh sauce, green onions and maplely meat all grown/raised on site.

>> No.4686729

>>4686713
lol no. but i did live in maine for a time, so dont get me started

>> No.4686736

>>4686213
>Superior to corned beef
it basically is corned beef

>> No.4686737

I've been raised under the savoir-vivre rules that sandwiches which can't be eaten in a single bite, or really any food where you're forced to bite things off, are unacceptable to a gentleman. Obviously that's a bit of a hyperbole but I certainly consider those grotesque barely-fit-in-mouth sandwiches rather nasty.

Can I eat pastrami as a cold cut or something?

>> No.4686740

>>4686737
>andwiches which can't be eaten in a single bite
if you can eat it in a single bite, its not a sandwich

I have never heard of such a ridiculous rule before

>> No.4686744

>>4686740
that is why you will never dine with the queen of england.

>> No.4686747

>>4686737
>I've been raised under the savoir-vivre rules
so your parents are idiots?

>> No.4686746

>>4686737
Gentleman or old lady? go eat one of those dainty cucumber finger sandwiches

>> No.4686751

>>4686744
So classy. I tip my fedora to you, good sir!

>> No.4686766

>>4686747
"You don't bite off" was a rule of the "don't talk with with your mouth full". Of course I've eaten the odd burger, but it's always on terms similar to eating something from another culture when your native cultural norms don't hold, like with say Asian cuisine. Putting it in very snobbish terms, eating a burger was an intercultural experience of trying working class food.

In fact I haven't been to a fast food restaurant until my late teens when I went with my friends. I wasn't too impressed. I'm not sure I've eaten fast food more than a dozen times in my life.

Yes, dinners at my family were and are always multi-course family affairs, napkins on knees and all. Yes, we do have live-in domestic help.

>> No.4686771

>>4686766
>"You don't bite off" was a rule of the "don't talk with with your mouth full".
well thats dumb

>> No.4686772

>>4686766
>*"You don't bite off" was a rule of the "don't talk with with your mouth full" level.

>> No.4686778

>>4686771
It's not very aesthetic. I understand you and people in your environment may be used to that, but we aren't and don't do it.

There are no objective right way to do it with dining culture. I respect the accepted custom and don't take out my knife and fork if my friends invite me to KFC just like I take care not to overdress for casual situations.

>> No.4686780

>>4686778
>*There is no objective right way to do it with dining culture

Sorry, I'm not a native English speaker.

>> No.4686782

>>4686778
>There are no objective right way to do it with dining culture
silly rules are dumb regardless of what culture they belong to.

Doing something just because you grew up doing something when that thing serves no purpose and is illogical is dumb

>> No.4686789

>>4686192
You can get pastrami pretty easily here m8, just venture out of the basement
>inb4 we don't have basements in Australia

>> No.4686790

>>4686782
Like I said, biting off is not very aesthetic. Some people consider slurping or talking with your mouth not very aesthetic.

Where you draw the lines of what is and isn't acceptable depends on your cultural background. The rule about not talking with your mouth full is drawn as arbitrarily as the one about not biting off. There's nothing objectively uncultured about doing one or the other within the proper cultural environment.

To paraphrase Shaw's words, the only barbarism is assuming the customs of your tribe are the laws of nature.

>> No.4686808

>>4686363
this

>> No.4686809

>>4686790
You shouldn't excuse dumb beliefs and activities as culture. A whole lot of cultures have done so weird and terrible things, being "culture" doesn't make it any better

>> No.4686810

>>4686804
>You should excuse dumb beliefs and activities as culture
It's as dumb as talking with your mouth full.

>> No.4686815

>>4686810
>It's as dumb as talking with your mouth full.
not true

With your mouth full, talking is obstructed and you are likely to spit shit out

There are actual logistic reasons why this is frowned upon, unlike your concept of not being able to bit things. We have actual teeth that evolved for that very purpose