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Why don't americans use pressure cookers? I am seriously baffled at your inability to utilize amazing kitchen gadgets, an electric kettle being another example.

Pressure cooker is probably my most used cookware. You can literally make a 3-4 hour roast in under an hour and it will taste great too. Wouldn't you make pot roasts more often if it took 45 minutes on the stove rather than 2 hours in the oven?

Simmer soaked legumes for 2 hours? Unsoaked legumes just take 20 minutes in a pressure cooker.

I just can not understand why won't more people use this.

>> No.4677634

i thought i was the only one who used those! you are one of the superior beings for sure

>> No.4677637

I use a slow cooker for most of those things. But really its just a cultural thing. its just not widely used.
>>4677628

pressure cookers are for Massachusett terrorism.

>> No.4677640

>>4677628

I don't know about the electric kettle. It's so much more efficient. I think it's psychological.

The pressure cooker is used in America, but mostly for canning. It's true we don't get many accounts of it being used for cooking dishes on a regular basis.

It's also very efficient, but its workings are more complex. It's like a pipe bomb on the stove.

America is a great country, but the fact that it's a science fair scares a lot of people. Fortunately, it's possible to live isolated for cheap there, so they don't get defensive.

>> No.4677665

>>4677628
>Why don't americans use pressure cookers?

Are you retarded?

>> No.4677671

Because our meat isn't tough as shit. We eat only the best. Funny story, a lot of offcuts of meat from America are sent to Europe where they go nuts over them.

>> No.4677670

>>4677665
The fuck? I've used a pressure cooker since I was 12 and I'm American as fuck.

>> No.4677674

>>4677628
Boston Marathon

>> No.4677675

see: boston marathon

>> No.4677677

Guess OP missed the Boston marathon.

>> No.4677685

>>4677674
>>4677675
>>4677677
This, Americans don't know how to use pressure cookers properly. The 'terrorist' was just making some nail soup and accidentally defeated the safety valve.

>> No.4677690

Association with groups of people is very inefficient. I think I mentioned that before.

>> No.4677756

>>It's also very efficient, but its workings are more complex. It's like a pipe bomb on the stove.

If american's are this retarded, then no question they are unable to operate a pressure cooekr

>> No.4677760

>>4677671

You have got to be fucking kidding, right?

>> No.4677764

I don't have one OP that is why.
When I was a child my mother used one very often. Problem was she is a terrible cook. So every thing ended up sort of tasting muddy. I think she forgot to add a little fresh red wine at the end of cooking roasts.

>> No.4677773

The reason is that pressure cookers were popular here in the first half of the 20th century. Then the microwave was invented, and suddenly, affluent Americans had a new and more efficient kitchen gadget to play with. The pressure cooker fell by the wayside since we could now microwave our meals in under three minutes instead of having to wait 20 minutes for a pressure cooker to get up to steam and then not blow itself apart.

Meanwhile, the impoverished regions of the world, in particular Europe still reeling after WW2, were unable to afford microwaves and so stuck with ancient pressure-cooker technology as handed down by their grandparents.

>> No.4677775

>>4677773
No.

You fucking retard.

>> No.4677800

>>4677773 again
By the way, this is actually true. Do remember, the microwave oven was an offshoot of WW2 aircraft radar technology.

>> No.4677801

>>4677775
Yes, you simp.

>> No.4677802

>>4677628
>complaining about Americans
>uses the word 'utilize'

Opinion status: Revoked

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>>4677801

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4677809

because moist heat, while useful, has limited applications. why the hell would you eat pot roasts every night? just how constipated must you be?

also, many lentils only take 30 minutes to cook from dry, lima beans aren't the only legumes

do they only have 3 kinds of food in Europe?

>> No.4677810

Does anyone know of a good brand of pressure cookers?

>> No.4677815

>>4677628
I never even knew what one was until I joined the Army and started learning about Afghanistan.

>> No.4677865

I know a fair amount who do, a lot of them live in the Midwest oddly enough

>> No.4677872

>>4677865

what's odd about that? it's not a perishable food, it's just a normal household appliance. if anything, the midwest should be even more obsessed with them since their food standards are somewhat lower than what we have on the coasts. what with all the green bean/tuna casserole, and such. endless bowls of mush made from cheap ingredients are a pressure cooker specialty.

>> No.4677885

>>4677810
some Lagostina's have a clever joint design

>be french
>advise Lagostina over Seb
>feels like a traitor

>> No.4677890

because pot roast is shit food for poor people

>> No.4677892

>>4677802
Because all non-Americans are Brits.

>> No.4677896

well, just lately, in light if the stuff that happened.. but you are correct. I bought some cow leg bones, and plan to make kindof "ossobucu". or tough meat, some onions, some spices, your choice... good stuff. I also have a large pressure cooker/canner. same thing/principle either one can be not so great. and don't touch the damn thing superheated steam when coolling down check the gaskets and the vent and popofvalve. and not to be smartass, but not like 2psi crock pots. even the small one is i think 3. but the big one.... you better know, and not guess. tha'ts why they can be good. or dangerous. and nothing you cannot learn from any ag agency. but not something you set and walkaway from. a crock pot it ain't

>> No.4677910

>>4677628

i'm pretty sure they don't use electric kettles because they only have a 120V electric grid vs 230V in other regions of the world

16 ampere x 120V = ~1900W
16 ampere x 230V = ~3600W

>> No.4677912

Well I'm sorry to say chaps but the massachusetts bombers obviously don't know how to use pressure cookers or they would have cooked the marathon spectators a nice stew with middle eastern spices rather than a nail and ball bearing casserole that was seriously overcooked.

>> No.4677917

>>4677910
It's because tea is less popular vs coffee than in other parts of the world.

>> No.4677925

It has nothing to do with "inability to grasp" anything, they're just unpopular.

It seems like older folks (60+) are more apt to use them, but I think they gradually fell out of favor after WW2. Not sure why. but part of it is the types of food people prepare; pot roasts and long-cooked vegetables just aren't that popular whether they take half an hour or 4 hours.

My uncle uses a pressure cooker, but my mom was always worried about nasty accidents, which I guess are much less frequent with modern models. I never learned to use one, and don't personally know anyone under 60 who has one.

As for electric tea kettles, they're not that popular because tea is not that popular. Since our tiff with England about tea stamps and such in the 1770s, we've been more of a coffee-drinking nation.

>> No.4677930

>>4677910
You dildo.

Unless you are cooking an entire elk in a huge caldron, you would never need more heat than what a 1900 watt resistive element can provide.

Besides, we have 220V available, it's 2 X 110V in separate phases, and the amperage draw is additive when using both at the same time. I have never seen a stove/oven in the US that did not run on 220V. Even my clothes dryer does.

>> No.4677932

I have a pressure cooker, but they suck for cooking meat. If you like your roast dry, stringy and mushy, then hooray for you.

>> No.4677933

I don't want to spend money and kitchen space on something that doesn't let me make anything that my dutch oven doesn't already do

>> No.4677935

>>4677773
>pressure cooker to get up to steam and then not blow itself apart

like that would ever happen...
if you are so afraid of technology timetravel back to dark ages you stupid fucks

>> No.4677941

>>4677671

It's funny because the story is true mainly in your own head.

>> No.4677944

pressure cookers are used in the states you stupid pleb
especially because of the popularity of iron chef america and their frequent use of it in order to make their 1 hour time limit.

(is there an Iron Chef Europe or something?)

>> No.4677947

OP has never lived in the south.

>> No.4677953

>>4677947

OP here. You should know my understanding of US cookery is solely based on the recipes I find online. But judging from the fact that no one uses pressure cookers to cook legumes although it is by far the best method; makes me think no one even owns a pressure cooker, much less know how/when to use it.

>> No.4677970

I've often considered buying one, but since they're not necessary I don't own one.
I have too much free time to care.

>> No.4678006

>>4677970
I would ask if you cook legumes (non lentil legumes, since lentils are fuckin small already) regularly but the point is: if you could cook them unsoaked under 30 minutes YOU WOULD cook them regularly. If you buy canned beans regularly, a pressure cooker will provide better beans for almost FREE in comparison

>> No.4678049

We use pressure cookers all the time. Home canning is a big thing in the US South. I own two, a large one for canning & making stock or whenever a huge batch of something is needed, and a smaller one that I use for cooking normal meals. I use one or the other a few times a week.

As for the electric kettle, there's a good reason why those aren't very common here--they aren't much better than using the range. The USA has 120V household electricity. The typical home circuit is 15 amps. That means the maximum power that a normal plug-in appliance can have is 120 x 15 = 1800 watts. In practice it is less than that so you can operate more than one appliance off the same circuit at the same time. That's much less powerful than Europe or the UK where you have 240V circuit.

Go look up some electric kettles on Amazon. US models are usually around 1200 watts, UK models 2400. Thus a USA model electric kettle is half as effective as a UK model. A plug-in electric kettle offers no advantages in the US since even a shitty electric range with small hobs is more than twice as powerful as what you'd plug into the wall. Plus, we don't have the same tea-drinking culture here so there's less demand for it.

>> No.4678050

>>4677930

The point of an electric kettle is to boil water as fast as possible. You want all the power you can get. Electric kettle is plug-in (110V). Your range, even if it's the shittiest of electric models, is 220V. It's more than twice as powerful as an electric kettle. Therefore there's no advantage or benefit to using the kettle--a pot on the stove is faster, so why buy something that's less effective?

Of course the stove runs on 220, which is the very reason why electric kettles aren't much good here. They DON'T run on 220, which is why the stove is more effective here.

>> No.4678055

I'm an Amerilard and I use a pressure cooker. Suck my dick, OP.

>> No.4678057

>>4678050
the wall voltage is only one part of the equation though. Power = I*V. Given a fixed resistor as a heating coil obviously if you fix the voltage you have a constant power draw, but you're not limited to the voltage of the wall outlet, you can easily use a transformer to kick your voltage up to whatever, limited by the current capacity of wiring of course. Presumably your 220V outlets are wired using a higher gauge wire that can support more current as well, but you still simplified a whole bunch.

>> No.4678070

>>4678050
you convinced me about the lack electric kettle usage in the US. I, for one, boil all water in my electric kettle. It takes about a minute for a Liter (that's a quart for americans...) of room temperature water. It is also a thermos, so the water I've boiled will remain very hot for hours and go back up to a boil in seconds when I need it again.

>home canning
I have no idea what that is. See if it is worth doing myself. Maybe there is something to learn from you after all.

>> No.4678072

>>4678057
I personally know some about electricity but for those who dont, his explanation is good enough and understandable

>> No.4678073

>>4678057

A standard american household outlet is 120V with a 15 amp circuit breaker. (See the National Electrical code). That limits the power of a plug-in appliance to about 1800 watts max. As I explained earlier in the thread appliances are usually less than this so there's some overheard room for other devices to operate on the same circuit. Transformer or not you're still hitting the limit of the circuit breaker.

On the other hand a typical range outlet is 240V with a 50 or 60 amp breaker (good for more than 12,000 watts--which you can hit if you're using your oven plus all the burners on top at the same time). A typical electric range element is 3000 watts, more than twice as powerful as an plug-in American electric kettle. So, comparing what's normal and requires no fiddling about with wires, a range top element is twice as powerful as an electric kettle.

Of course you could import a 240V electric kettle from Europe and then wire up your own 240V circuit for it. Or you could unplug your stove and plug it in to the stove outlet. Or you could custom-make a 120V electric kettle with a more powerful than normal heating element inside it and then install a 120V circuit with a larger circuit breaker....but let's be honest here, what standard consumer is going to do that?

Faced with the choices that don't require electricians: a ~1200-1500 watt plug-in kettle vs. a 3000 watt (or more) range, the range wins every time. Nobody is going to bother to import a foreign kettle and do a bunch of custom wiring for it, even though that is technically possible.

>> No.4678080

>>4678072
Yeah, but its not like your stove pulls the maximum power it can from the wall at all times. I mean it can support probably 4 burners and the broiler at the same time.

So its sort of an unfair comparison to say "the stove is 220V so its better"

>> No.4678081

>>4678072

yes, and he already stated the current limits (size of the circuit breakers) earlier in the thread. see >>4678049

>> No.4678083

>>4678080
I never had any problems in my 220V house and I can heat water faster than you people. I think 220 is better

>> No.4678084

>>4678083
I have a gas stove bro. I can definitely heat water faster than you.

>> No.4678086

>>4678084
I have a gas stove too?

>> No.4678090

>>4678080
>I mean it can support probably 4 burners and the broiler at the same time.

Uhm, that's the point.

A plug-in kettle has a very low power limit because of what the standard household outlet circuit breaker ratings are.

A stove has no such limit since its circuit is designed to power multiple burners and the oven all at once.

Which would you rather boil water with--the one that has the low limit or the one that's much more powerful?

Go read>>4678073 again

>> No.4678093

>>4678084

Yes, clearly gas is the best, but even in a worst-case scenario, even a crappy electric range is better than a USA model kettle.

Maximum possible power on US home outlet = 1800 watts.

The "Small" electric element on a cheap electric range is 3000 watts. It just gets better from there (the "large" electric elements, or induction, or gas are all better than this)

polite sage since this is getting a bit repetitive.

>> No.4678102

>>4677932
>dry

Really? I thought a pressure cooker was a sealed environment, which would retain moisture. Am I wrong, or does this anon not know how to use one?

>> No.4678104

>>4678102

You are correct, a pressure cooker is indeed a sealed environment, which must contain water. If anyone is getting a "dry" pot roast out of it they're doing it wrong.

>> No.4678108

>>4678070
>It takes about a minute for a Liter (that's a quart for americans...
Soda is sold here in litres, you gargantuan pretentious faggot. We're familiar with the unit of measure.

>> No.4678111

>>4678090
You can probably pull 50 A off 220V line and 15 to 20 off a 110 V line depending on wiring.

Which means you can get roughly four or five times the power draw, but split that over multiple heaters and account for the greater degree of heat loss from an exposed heating element to one actually contained within the water itself. You can in theory at least match results.

>> No.4678114

>Live in the South
>everyone owns a pressure cooker and uses it for canning and cooking game
lol Yankees.

>> No.4678151

>>4678111

Yes, I already explained that.
See: 4678093.

>> No.4678213

>mfw people from my region don't have gas stoves or indoor plumbing

oh wait, that's wrong? I'm a huge fucking moron?

get a passport, op.

>> No.4678241

>>4678213

I don't get it? Whose face are you referring to. I have a gas stove and indoor plumbing.

>> No.4678262

>>4677910

Someone should kick you right in the fucking face. Wattage is wattage is wattage is goddamned wattage. Plug in a resistive device that has a current draw of 16 amps at 120 volts and it will consume 1920 watts of power. The same device plugged into a 240 volt source will have a current draw of 8 amps, still consuming 1920 watts of power.

P=IxE

Do you even electricity?

>> No.4678286

>>4678262

You are an idiot. If you plug in the same device into a source that has twice the voltage it will draw double the current - for a very short time. Voltage is comparable the pressure on a garden hose.

>> No.4678297

>>4678262

good luck trying that. i hope you have a fire extinguisher with you

>> No.4678305

>>4678108
But milk is in quarts and gallons. I love the USA.

>> No.4678316

>>4678297
>wants to heat water
>extinguishes fire
You're doing it wrong.

>> No.4678368

Essentially you can make anything that you would in a slow cooker, and it takes max 30-40 minutes.

>> No.4678377

>>4678286

I can't people can be this retarded. OF COURSE if you plug the same device to a difference voltage you'll get different power output. The point is that this does not happen unless you take an american kettle to europe or vice versa. As long as you use a kettle in the country you bought it, the wattage will be accurate and dividing it by the voltage will give the ampere

>> No.4678380

>>4678368
exactly. a pressure cooker is basically the combination of a time machine and a slow cooker. The results will be as good.

>> No.4678384

>>4678380
What happens if my chicken kills its own grandfather?

>> No.4678387

>>4678384
aah, you see, the thing about pressure cookers is that they only speed up the flow of time. so such paradoxes are not an issue

>> No.4678401

>>4678387
c-can I go in the pressure cooker and speed up time to see if I ever get a gf

:^(

>> No.4678405

>>4678401
I feel like living in a pressure cooker is more a self-fulfilling prophecy of never getting a girlfriend.

>> No.4678421

>>4678401
make sure you use natural release and not quick release

>> No.4678597

There is really people that are afraid of accidents with pressure cookers? Exist a security valve, if you guys don't know. In my country almost all the houses have at least one. You can use to cook (for example)beefs, soup, beans and corn. And normally, foods prepared in microwave have no taste.

>> No.4678746

>>4678597
If it's something you have in your house I wouldn't bank on Americans having it. American houses are built on a shoestring budget to maximize profits.

>> No.4678757

>>4678746
Pressure cookers are cheap, and even poor people have in my country. Probably in America is cheapear than in my country. They just don't know how to use or make foods that don't need or that are already pre-cooked.

>> No.4678837

For some reason pressure cookers are more common in rural areas. Not sure why.

>> No.4678838

>>4678757
on top of that, pressure cookers pay for themselves. you do not need nearly as much energy to cook something in comparison to non-pressure simmer/slowcook/oven

>> No.4678841

>>4678837
I suppose cooking at all is more common in rural areas. Also pressure cookers are very frugal. It is probably the cheapest way of cooking anything fuel/energy wise.

>> No.4678854

>>4677628
>can't plan ahead & give 4–8 hours for a roast to cook
>being this lazy

>> No.4680635

>>4678837
Because people living in rural areas are more likely to have a big garden, and people with big gardens are more likely to engage in canning, and people who can their own foods DO IT IN A FUCKING PRESSURE COOKER YOU STUPID WHORE!!!!

I'm not sure why I was screaming obscenities there at the end. I guess I'm just trying to fit in with the general tenor of the rest of the thread. You pathetic shitweasels. I HATE AND DESPISE YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Never change, /ck/. Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never.

>> No.4680665

>>4680635
>using shout poles
>>>/out/

>> No.4680666

>>4677628
Why would I care to cook something in a shorter time with a questionable piece of hardware when, if you just plan a little a head, time isn't an issue?

I don't know any good cooks, among those I know personally, that use a pressure cooker.

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>>4680666
>questionable piece of hardware
>I don't know any good cooks, among those I know personally, that use a pressure cooker.