/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.4630103]

Evil sugar.

[Anonymous No.4630111]

[Anonymous No.4630150]

>Delicious sugar
There, ftfty

[Sceak !!LciZj2frsW6 No.4630151]

>>4630103

Mountain Dew: Same price, more bang.

[Anonymous No.4630153]

>not showing fruit juice

I'd bet it's be the second highest

[Anonymous No.4630159]

>>4630153
>Citrus Punch

[Anonymous No.4630162]

>>4630151
more bang for your buck

[Anonymous No.4630165]

>>4630153
Your soda defensiveness is showing.

At least juice contains vitamins, minerals, beneficial phytochemicals, etc. Mountain Dew has, uh, neckbeard chic?

[Anonymous No.4630169]

>>4630165

That's moot though if you're bitching about sugar and diabetus

[Anonymous No.4630186]

>>4630169
I bet you think nutrition = sugar, fat, carbohydrates, and calories.

[Sceak !!LciZj2frsW6 No.4630200]

>>4630162

I wish I had more buck for my bang, tbqh ...

[Anonymous No.4630202]

I have no idea how people drink sugary drinks every day. I've heard there are people that drink soda throughout the day instead of water but I find that hard to believe.

[Anonymous No.4630221]

Many years ago in high school when those energy drinks became popular I would drink 2 of them a day....

What was I thinking

[Anonymous No.4630222]

>>4630202
>I've heard there are people that drink soda throughout the day instead of water but I find that hard to believe.
My whole family does that. Grew up doing that.

[Anonymous No.4630223]

>>4630165
That would depend on the juice. Most affordable juices are reconstituted, heavily processed, and altogether lacking in these beneficial substances. Expensive hippie juices? Maybe. At that point you might as well buy a juicer and dispense with store-bought juice.

[Anonymous No.4630228]

>>4630223
>maybe actual juice, but not shitty juice
Cool argument.

[Anonymous No.4630229]

>>4630222
Please tell me you don't anymore...

Reminds me of a guy I met who had a pool built and said, "oh I don't go outside, the sun is bad for you". Or mothers who actually didn't know babies were breastfed.

[Anonymous No.4630234]

Kind of fucking pissed that they're adding sugar to even plain milk now.
>the taste of milk is becoming so industrialized and ill that they actually have to mask it with sugar now

[Anonymous No.4630240]

>>4630169
Intakes of 100% fruit juice and vegetable juice were not associated with risk of type 2 diabetes for either gender (P-trend >0.05).
>Eshak et al. 2012

Substituting one serving of homemade fruit juice for instant drink was associated with 29% (95% CI: 7, 47%) lower odds of MetS and for regular soda with 30% (95% CI: 1, 50%) lower odds. Substituting water for combined SSB was marginally significant (OR = 0.86 (95% CI: 0.74, 1.00). In conclusion, reducing the consumption of SSB and substituting them with homemade fruit juices in moderation may be a culturally appropriate approach to lower MetS among Hispanic adults.
>Mattei et al. Diabetic experimental animals were treated with M. citrifolia juice (2ml/kg, twice a day) and diabetic standard with reference hypoglycemic drug, glibenclamide orally for 20 days. Both the groups exhibited a significant reduction in blood glucose level of 150mg/dl and 125mg/dl, respectively, as compared to diabetic untreated with FBS=360.0mg/dl). On 10th day of experiment, diabetic experimental animals exhibited a decrease in body mass (10.2g, 5.11%) which increased significantly by the 20th day (6g, 3.0%). The data of this study proved the hypoglycemic and hepatoprotective activity of M. citrifolia.
>Nayak et al. 2010

Of 14,196 adults included in the sample, 3961 were consumers of fruit juice. Consumers of 100% fruit juice, relative to nonconsumers, had lower mean BMI, lower waist circumference, and lower homeostasis model assessment (HOMA) insulin resistance (p < 0.001). Level of intake (oz/d) had a linear inverse association with HOMA (p < 0.001), whereas the association with BMI and waist circumference was U-shaped (p < 0.001). Consumers relative to nonconsumers had 22% (95% confidence interval [CI] = 13%–30%) lower odds of obesity and 15% (95% CI = 10%–28%) lower odds of metabolic syndrome.
>Pereira et al. 2010

Gais sugar is sugar

[Anonymous No.4630241]

>>4630169
Intakes of 100% fruit juice and vegetable juice were not associated with risk of type 2 diabetes for either gender (P-trend >0.05).
>Eshak et al. 2012

Substituting one serving of homemade fruit juice for instant drink was associated with 29% (95% CI: 7, 47%) lower odds of MetS and for regular soda with 30% (95% CI: 1, 50%) lower odds. Substituting water for combined SSB was marginally significant (OR = 0.86 (95% CI: 0.74, 1.00). In conclusion, reducing the consumption of SSB and substituting them with homemade fruit juices in moderation may be a culturally appropriate approach to lower MetS among Hispanic adults.
>Mattei et al.

Diabetic experimental animals were treated with M. citrifolia juice (2ml/kg, twice a day) and diabetic standard with reference hypoglycemic drug, glibenclamide orally for 20 days. Both the groups exhibited a significant reduction in blood glucose level of 150mg/dl and 125mg/dl, respectively, as compared to diabetic untreated with FBS=360.0mg/dl). On 10th day of experiment, diabetic experimental animals exhibited a decrease in body mass (10.2g, 5.11%) which increased significantly by the 20th day (6g, 3.0%). The data of this study proved the hypoglycemic and hepatoprotective activity of M. citrifolia.
>Nayak et al. 2010

Of 14,196 adults included in the sample, 3961 were consumers of fruit juice. Consumers of 100% fruit juice, relative to nonconsumers, had lower mean BMI, lower waist circumference, and lower homeostasis model assessment (HOMA) insulin resistance (p < 0.001). Level of intake (oz/d) had a linear inverse association with HOMA (p < 0.001), whereas the association with BMI and waist circumference was U-shaped (p < 0.001). Consumers relative to nonconsumers had 22% (95% confidence interval [CI] = 13%–30%) lower odds of obesity and 15% (95% CI = 10%–28%) lower odds of metabolic syndrome.
>Pereira et al. 2010

[Anonymous No.4630242]

>>4630202
I went a couple years without ever drinking water, it was only soda and occasionally milk. I'll have a cup of water once every other month now, but it's still mostly just soda.

[Anonymous No.4630243]

>>4630234
>Kind of fucking pissed that they're adding sugar to even plain milk now.
Pretty sure that is only flavoured milk. The other sugar is mostly lactose, not added sugar (I am assuming).

[Anonymous No.4630245]

>>4630242
It's like you lost all basic instincts and sense of personal responsibility.

I don't mean that as an insult, just kind of amazing people like you exist.

[Anonymous No.4630248]

>>4630243
Nope, they're adding more sugar and artificial sweeteners to plain milk now. Right now the dairy industry is pushing hard for aspartame in milk now without labeling it on the carton. At least in murrica anyway.

[Anonymous No.4630260]

I stopped drinking soda a year ago, and I can't touch it anymore (other than a glass of Coca-Cola or a Can of Mosnter soetimes)

Too thcik and sugary for me

[Anonymous No.4630275]

>>4630242

[Anonymous No.4630284]

>>4630242
I'm very curious as to what you look like, what do you weigh?

[Anonymous No.4630298]

>>4630284
You don't have to drink much if you eat food that has water content. Three sodas a day isn't that unusual.

[Anonymous No.4630299]

Does that chart say water has sugar?

[Anonymous No.4630301]

>>4630298
Man, personally if I ever drink soda it's diet and that's pretty uncommon even then for me. Regular soda is just vomit-inducingly sweet for me.

[/ck/ No.4630303]

>fucking healthy Nazi's just as bad as vegans

[Anonymous No.4630324]

that doesnt look like corn syrup.

[Anonymous No.4630403]

>>4630103
I just drink vitamin water zero

[Anonymous No.4630431]

Can you do that for alcohols? Beer, vodka...

[Anonymous No.4630432]

>>4630248
This really isn't accurate. They want to use sweeteners like aspartame in chocolate and other flavored milk that they serve to kids in schools. But they don't think kids will want it if its labeled as healthy shit in some way. They're not trying to hide it, it would still be in the ingredients.

Personally its not a bad idea, assuming whatever alternative sweetener they use is safe. When I was in school I drank nothing but the chocolate milk, I'm sure that added up to thousands of extra calories every year.

[Anonymous No.4630451]

>>4630432
thing is ever alt sweetener taste really different than sugar to at least part of the population. I know I don't mind aspartame much but stevia and sucralose just leaves an umpleasant irritating taste in my mouth

[Anonymous No.4630457]

>>4630103
this is a gross visual misrepresentation of the amount of sugar in those drinks

but good job falling for a 9 year olds science fair project

[Anonymous No.4630464]

>>4630103
>Drinking human pet food.
>2013

[None !5P0TETRAO2 No.4630465]

>>4630103
I'm ok with it.

[Anonymous No.4630466]

>>4630457
http://www.sugarstacks.com/beverages.htm

[None !5P0TETRAO2 No.4630474]

>>4630466
I fail to see the argument, humans love sugar whats wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.4630476]

>>4630474
Why do you think there's an argument?

This one is great though,

http://www.sugarstacks.com/carrots.htm

[Anonymous No.4630477]

>>4630476
>>4630466
Holy shit!!! LOL

[Anonymous No.4630478]

>>4630466
I used to eat tons of sugar cubes as a kid, I would've been better off just drinking soda.

[None !5P0TETRAO2 No.4630480]

>>4630476
http://www.bettycrocker.com/recipes/brown-sugar-glazed-carrots/0fb4b05d-76c5-47d7-8bf1-acadd0832454
my superior argument.

Sugar in food doesn't really mean anything, its people who abuse sugar that does.

[Anonymous No.4630529]

>>4630466
So what is there to drink that's actually healthy?

[Anonymous No.4630533]

>>4630480
>>4630476
>argument

[Anonymous No.4630535]

>>4630529
Water

[Anonymous No.4630537]

>>4630529

Tea and coffee, muthabrutha

[Anonymous No.4630538]

>>4630529
Aside from water, nothing according to them.

[Anonymous No.4630539]

>>4630538

what about tea?

[None !5P0TETRAO2!!xI5T55E5wRH No.4630540]

>>4630535
water, milk, soy milk, soda, juice, concentrated juice, heavy cream.

[Anonymous No.4630546]

Why is America such a haven for unhealthiness?

[None !5P0TETRAO2!!xI5T55E5wRH No.4630547]

>>4630546
because we can be.

[Anonymous No.4630553]

>>4630539
Depends what kind of tea. "Normal" bagged or loose leaf tea is very healthy. The shit you buy in super market that is in bottles is most likely just as full of sugar as random soda.

[Anonymous No.4630554]

>>4630477
Now I know what to stack up on if there's ever an imminent nuclear disaster. 1300 calories per can? Sing me up!

[Anonymous No.4630555]

>>4630553
Sorry with healthy I meant it has no sugar.

[Anonymous No.4630562]

... Water has sugar?

[Anonymous No.4630564]

>>4630562
I think that's just a reflection.

[Anonymous No.4630565]

>>4630562
It's Tonic Water.

[Anonymous No.4630566]

>>4630562

The thing at the far left of OP's photo is not plain water. It's one of those "enhanced water beverages" or whatever the hell you want to call them.

[Anonymous No.4630573]

>>4630298
>Three sodas a day isn't that unusual.
Christ, maybe not for you, you fat dorito-munching, mountain-dew-swilling pig.

[Anonymous No.4630576]

>>4630432
>aspartame
>healthy
What fucked up country do you live in?

[Anonymous No.4630579]

>>4630576

It's not healthy per se, but it hasn't been proven to be unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.4630580]

>>4630565
>>4630566
see
>>4630564

[Anonymous No.4630582]

>>4630579
There's a ton of things that haven't been proven unhealthy that you still wouldn't eat.

[Anonymous No.4630583]

>>4630221
i know that feel when i stopped drinking soda

the reflection that i used to drink like 6 coke cans in rapid sucession on certain days is very scary to think about

[Anonymous No.4630586]

>>4630298
>food that has water content

please dont actually believe this, just because you eat an apple or a banana or some shit doesnt mean you get to skip on 1 of your glasses of water for that day

[Anonymous No.4630589]

>>4630579
>it hasn't been proven to be unhealthy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame#Safety_and_health_effects

Also, Monsanto owns NutraSweet. That's reason enough not to ever buy products with aspartame in it.

[Anonymous No.4630593]

>>4630303

Just don't bitch when you've got to pay for 2 airplane seats, and let's double your medical insurance for the extra-wide MRI you require. I'm sick of paying for fatties' lack of self-control.

[Anonymous No.4630594]

>>4630540
>healthy
>milk
>soy
>juice
>more juice
>heavy cream
>being this fucking retarded

LOL tripfags.

[Anonymous No.4630626]

>>4630589

> Peer-reviewed comprehensive review articles and independent reviews by governmental regulatory bodies have analyzed the published research on the safety of aspartame and have found aspartame is safe for consumption at current levels

>Aspartame has been deemed safe for human consumption by over one hundred (100) regulatory agencies in their respective countries

I don't get it, are you trying to make my point for me?

[Anonymous No.4630628]

>>4630589
Do you read things before posting links to them?

[Anonymous No.4630649]

Americans think replacing fat with sugar is healthy.

[Anonymous No.4630668]

You shouldn't use aspartame because it tastes fucking disgusting

[Anonymous No.4630695]

>>4630626
>>4630628
I guess you didn't finish reading it. lol morons.

[Anonymous No.4630699]

>water
>sugar
is this image legit?

[Anonymous No.4630703]

>>4630699
>implying there is sugar in the bag under the water

[Anonymous No.4630706]

>>4630699

That's water under it, reflecting light.

[Anonymous No.4630710]

>>4630699
That's just light reflecting off the bag.
You should be buying bottled water anyway.

[Anonymous No.4630711]

>>4630699
Only in america.

[Anonymous No.4630729]

>>4630710

No, you shouldn't. It's worse than tap water in most places and creates huge disposal problems. Get a filter and a canteen.

[Anonymous No.4630735]

>>4630729
>canteen
And get the water from where, genius?

[Anonymous No.4630737]

>>4630735

tap + filter, just like my post said, sporto.

[Anonymous No.4630739]

>>4630103
ITT: Lazy fucks don't know how to exercise / are already overweight.

I myself have trouble keeping a high enough caloric count so I don't loose weight.

TL;DR Im healthy and I workout and exercise so it doesn't matter how much sugar I intake.

[Anonymous No.4630748]

>>4630739
>TL;DR Im healthy and I workout and exercise so it doesn't matter how much sugar I intake.
This is wrong. Even if you work out for 8 hours a day and burn 5000 calories it doesn't mean you can healthily subsist on Big Macs, french fries and soda. You might not look fat but your arteries and liver are crying out in pain.

[Anonymous No.4630755]

>>4630103
mountain dew is disgusting man i dunno how i used to drink that stuff

tastes flat too

[Anonymous No.4630761]

>>4630739
>
TL;DR Im healthy and I workout and exercise so it doesn't matter how much sugar I intake.


best be trolling

[Anonymous No.4630773]

>>4630546
As an American, I question that myself. I was disgusted with my own fat on my body, I don't know how people can walk around comfortable with pounds and pounds of fat holding them down. It's kind of scary seeing a lot of over-weight people everywhere you go.
>Texas fag here

Then there's me who drinks Starbucks almost every day, but at least I'm losing weight and gaining some muscle by exercising regularly and maintaining a somewhat healthy diet. Getting hooked into New Leaf isn't helping that effort however.

[Anonymous No.4630776]

>>4630761

>sugar is bad for you

Shut up, mom

[Anonymous No.4630777]

>>4630298
>Three sodas a day isn't that unusual.
It really is though.

[Anonymous No.4630778]

>>4630776
Too much sugar is bad for you, it's just hard for people to realize when to stop, or at least have enough self-control to stop.

Sure I could have 1 small cookie, or I could eat 3 small cookies. Of course I'd rather have 3 but 1 is even too much. That's where your self control comes into play.

[Anonymous No.4630783]

>>4630298
>Three sodas a day isn't that unusual.
If this isn't unusual for you, I implore you to take a look at your body and think long and hard.

Shit I stopped drinking coca-cola when I learned they used that shit to clean corrosion or whatever in cars. There's no way I'm putting that into my body.

[Anonymous No.4630788]

>>4630783
>There's no way I'm putting that into my body.
You could use stomach acid to clean corrosion too.

Not saying cokes good for you by any means, but an acid of coke's strength is no big deal to your stomach

[Anonymous No.4630791]

>>4630788
>what are teeth

[Anonymous No.4630797]

>>4630783
I hate people like you. You made that choice for a patently stupid reason (your own ignorance). You can use lime juice and get the same effect--just a matter of a weak acid reaction.

Yeah, it was a good thing to do, but a fuckstupid reason to do it.

[Anonymous No.4630806]

>>4630797
Yeah, he should be fat and drink gallons of soda everyday.

[Anonymous No.4630815]

>>4630529
Water
Tea and coffee (not the pre-made ones, the oens you do at home)

That's not saying you can't enjoy a can of Cola once in a while, but soda should not be part of your regular diet

[Anonymous No.4630816]

>>4630778

>Sure I could have 1 small cookie, or I could eat 3 small cookies.

When you're eating cookies, it's not the sugar you should be worrying about. Cookies are full of butter

[Anonymous No.4630818]

>>4630806

Do you fail that badly at reading comprehension? Nobody is claiming that's healthy to drink coke. The claim is that his reasoning was stupid.

Speaking of which, I hear that 100% of murderers breathe air, so you should stop breathing.

[Anonymous No.4630835]

>>4630816
Butter is fine.

[Anonymous No.4630839]

>>4630818
He realized soda was acidic and stopped drinking it because of that reason. How is this stupid?

Do you know what teeth are?

[Anonymous No.4630840]

>>4630835

Right, if your goal is to be fat and unhealthy

Otherwise do what every athlete in the world does and eat sugar

[Anonymous No.4630868]

>>4630840

WOW is not athletics. Actual physical athletes will focus on protein or complex carbs.

[Anonymous No.4630875]

>>4630839
you realize EVERYTHING that is sour is acidic and EVERYTHING that is bitter is basic-- that is to say everything that is sour or bitter is caustic, right?

[Anonymous No.4630885]

>>4630868

All carbs are sugar

[Anonymous No.4630888]

>>4630885

Not in the way you mean it. Simple sugars and complex carbs are metabolized very differently. Athletes aren't out there choking down HFCS.

[Anonymous No.4630891]

>>4630875
Describe how bitter foods wreak havoc on your teeth.

[Anonymous No.4630906]

>>4630875
>EVERYTHING that is bitter is basic
thats not true, there are plenty of proteins that taste bitter without correlation to the pH

[Anonymous No.4630910]

>>4630891
By increasing stomach acid and bile production.
>>4630888
Actually, they do.

[Anonymous No.4630961]

>>4630103
But that's not even right, most of those drinks have high fructose corn syrup in them, not actual sugar.

[Anonymous No.4630964]

>>4630961
HFC is nothing more than regular corn syrup with a higher level of fructose, you realize this, right?

Oh, and fructose is the main sugar in fruits.

[Anonymous No.4630965]

>>4630910
Nope.

[Anonymous No.4630970]

>>4630964
But it's not a sugar molecule. I already know what HFCS is, what I don't like is the bad chemistry at play here. HFCS is not a sugar molecule, it is already broken down into (usually) 42% glucose and 53% fructose. When your body consumes regular sugar, it breaks it equally into 50/50 glucose/fructose.

[Anonymous No.4630990]

>>4630964
>Oh, and fructose is the main sugar in fruits.

OMG REALLY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!

You know how much fruit you'd have to drink to get the equivalent fructose that's in 1 12oz soda?

[Anonymous No.4630996]

>>4630990

*eat

[Anonymous No.4630999]

>>4630990

>You know how much fruit you'd have to eat to get the equivalent fructose that's in 1 12oz soda?

Two bananas

[Anonymous No.4631004]

>>4630990
>You know how much fruit you'd have to drink to get the equivalent fructose that's in 1 12oz soda?
about half a Kg

[Anonymous No.4631022]

>>4630797
That's not the only reason, I also realize how sugary and bad it was for you. I don't see why it's a bad reason, I don't drink cans of lime juice.

[Anonymous No.4631024]

>>4630990
Not that much.

[Anonymous No.4631038]

>ITT
>butthurt sodafags assmad that some people have learned to kick the soda bucket

Yeah, I'm one of those people that has one every month or two, and it has to have real sugar in it or else I won't drink it. High fructose corn syrup gives me the bad hiccups from hell.

[Anonymous No.4631041]

enjoy your cavities soda drinking wierdos

[Anonymous No.4631049]

>>4631004

Would you say 1.5kg a fruit a day isn't that much? Which discounts that fruit also has other benefits (fiber, vitamins, micronutrients) that soda doesn't?

Saying "fructose is in fruit" doesn't mean HFCS is magically good for you.

[Anonymous No.4631056]

>>4631049
I said
.5, not 1.5Kg

half a Kg isn't that much.

also remember that HFCS is still at most about half Fructose, in most applications even less than that

[Anonymous No.4631057]

Sodafags

[Anonymous No.4631058]

>>4631049
Thank the gods, another rational human being. Thanks for trying to bring some intelligence to this thread, anon.

[Anonymous No.4631063]

>>4630970
>42% glucose and 53% fructose

You got those backwards, friend. What
>>4631056
said is true, there is less than half fructose.

[Anonymous No.4631101]

>tfw don't give a shit about what nutritional value the things I eat have
>tfw parents were never strict on what I can and can't eat
>tfw don't even attempt to diet myself and just eat and drink whatever I like
>tfw never go to the doctor because I'm lazy, even if I have the insurance for it
>tfw never have the need to because I get sick once a year at most, and my immune system is so strong that I recover very quickly if I do get sick
>tfw I'm actually slightly underweight despite this

Don't give a shit anyway because I'd rather enjoy what I want instead of restrain myself to save a few years of life. In fact, I'd rather die sooner rather than later. A natural death would cause less grieving than ending my own life. Last time I went to get a checkup was a year ago (and before that there was a gap of about 4 years back from when I lived with my mother) when job hunting. The doctor ended up asking me what dietary supplements I take because I have very good cholesterol levels and high vitamin D.

[/ck/ No.4631180]

>>4630593
See this is what I'm talking about.

Not everyone who drinks these are fat there is a thing moderation motherfucker.

Have you heard of it?

It's about being able to choose what you want without some self righteous asshole telling you what you should/shouldn't put in your body.

[Anonymous No.4631197]

>>4630791
a part of your body that isn't in your stomach

[Anonymous No.4631214]

>>4631180
>moderation
Almost all processed foods have HFCS. It is almost unavoidable.

[/ck/ No.4631224]

>>4631214
.....so maybe don't eat so much of the processed foods and that's besides the point I'm just saying let ppl eat and drink what they want without being ostracized by smug assholes.

[Anonymous No.4631291]

Please tell me the "all fructose is the same so HFCS isn't any worse than fruit or maple syrup" is just trolling. I've seen this debate more than once here lately.

[Anonymous No.4631295]

>>4631291
Nope, people actually believe this.

[Anonymous No.4631316]

>>4631291
All fructose IS the same. Basic chemistry yo. The only problem with hfc is its calorie density, and that is a boon in some circumstances, and not that much of a problem if you have your head in the game anyway.

[Anonymous No.4631336]

>>4631316
But that's the point. Just because fructose is the same doesn't mean all products containing fructose have the same health effects.

[Anonymous No.4631361]

>>4631336
20g of fructose is 20g of fructose. That is all there is to it. Likewise sucrose is sucrose. There is literally nothing inherently unhealthy about either. Problems come when you don't part attention to how much you are getting. Sugar calories are just as nutritionally "empty" whether they come from a soda as they are in a fruit. That fruits generally contain more other nutrients is not germane because if you bring them up, you have to apply the same argument to things like fruits themselves because most everything you can find nutritionally in fruits you can find in other foods or supplements sans sugars. This absolutism around hfc obfuscates the fact we should just pay more attention to what they eat and understand its potential effects.

[Anonymous No.4631373]

Nothing is unhealthy if you don't eat it.

[Anonymous No.4631374]

>>4631361
>yfw you find out sucrose has fructose in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[/ck/ No.4631375]

>>4631361
your talking to a brick wall buddy

[Anonymous No.4631382]

>>4631336
"it appears unlikely that HFCS contributes more to obesity or other conditions than sucrose" - American Medical Institute

Although pure fructose can cause metabolic upsets at high concentrations and in the absence of glucose, such experiments are irrelevant for HFCS, which is not consumed at extreme high levels and contains both fructose and glucose;
•
There is no longer an association between HFCS and obesity in the United States: per capita consumption of HFCS has declined in recent years, whereas obesity rates continue to rise
- White. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition

[Xae No.4631414]

>>4631374

vlogbrothers have this awesome series called Crash Course. Have you heard of it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8WJ2KENlK0

[Anonymous No.4631463]

>>4631101
>tfw you start to age and all your illusions of being healthy enough are slowly shattered

[Anonymous No.4631492]

>>4630546
>CUZ WE FUGGEN CAN

It's our best and worst characteristic really

[Anonymous No.4631513]

>>4631463

[Anonymous No.4631523]

>>4631513
ah, I hate when somebody posts that gif. I just want to hug that cat and love it forever. Why is it crying?

[Anonymous No.4631543]

>>4631523
It's not really crying. Just amazing computor 1337 effects.

[Anonymous No.4631550]

>>4631543
You sure? I've seen a cat cry before. It was because he was happy though. One of our neighbors trapped him and hauled him off to a refinery and set him loose. He was there for two weeks before my uncle who works at that refinery recognized him and called us. The cat was mewing the whole way home and tears were coming from his eyes, so happy to go home.

[Anonymous No.4631558]

>>4631550
U w0t? Was it your cat? Also, how can you tell if a cat was crying because it was happy?

Tfw I'm alergic to cats but still have one and will hug it extra today because of your story.

[Anonymous No.4631588]

>>4631558
It was my cat. Family cat actually, this was back when I lived at home. And I swear to god tears were coming out of his eyes when he saw us and we put him in the car. I know it was because he was happy, he kept running from person to person really quick because he missed us. It was like he wanted all of us to pet him at once and he couldn't be everywhere at the same time so he kept switching laps, mewing and purring. Almost made me cry, I didn't think I'd ever see him again.

[Anonymous No.4631592]

>>4631588
I swear I would fuck up beyond recognition any neighbor of mine who would do that to my cat.

Who the fuck does that? Why would anyone do that? Holy shit I'm so mad right now.

[Anonymous No.4631604]

>>4631592
We never figured out exactly who it was. I have my suspicions though. It wasn't actually a neighbor, it was some asshole a couple streets over. Before the incident he called us a couple of times to come get the cat because he was playing in the guys flowerbed. He was pretty much a dick even though I apologized to him. I don't know if it was him for sure, I'm thinking it was though. After we got my cat back we kept him inside, for safety reasons. He didn't mind too much after that incident though, I think he understood it was better to be in with us than be wondering around and possibly catnapped again. As he got older we started letting him outside again because he was too old to be wandering that far away.

[Anonymous No.4631607]

>>4630431
This. I know they're already making alcoholic drinks have a nutrition facts label but I kinda want to know now about how much sugar and calories drinks have

[Anonymous No.4631608]

>>4631604
I'd fuck his flowerbed up without him knowing. So there's no way he'd be 100% sure I did it.

Then do it again. And again. And again.

[Anonymous No.4631621]

I remember in high school I loved me some Coca Cola. It really is a perfect drink, like iced tea, they're perfect for every occasion. Now that I don't have a vending machine in my face all the time, I've longed since weened off of it. I still like it when I have some pizza or a burger, I like having fizz, whether strong or soft, with greasy foods.

I WILL drink a Vanilla Coke if I see it in a store, though. Literally a dessert drink. I actually sip it to savor it.

[Xae No.4631624]

>>4631608

You. I like you.

[Anonymous No.4631628]

>>4631608
Haha, that would've been awesome, didn't think of it. In my angsty youth I wanted to dump a litterbox full of cat shit in his flowerbed and spraypaint "cat killer" on his garage. Dad talked me out of it, thank goodness.

[Anonymous No.4631633]

>>4631628
As a kid I saw this older kid kick a stray cat. Like a really hard kick.

I destroyed him. Good thing his mom saved him in time, I was literally going to murder him.

[Anonymous No.4631687]

>>4631633

And that kid grew up with a seething hatred of animal rights people. And now he makes vegan threads 10 times a day.

Thanks?

[Anonymous No.4631707]

>>4631604
You're whining about a guy getting rid of a pest on his property. The pest happened to be your stupid cat.

Take your faggot shit to /an/.

[Anonymous No.4631718]

>>4630245

But seeking highly caloric food and drink is the most basic of all instincts.

Denying your body food and drink simply because the modern era is a time where it's in excess in fact goes against our instincts, and we do so only because science and medicine have shown us that there are consequences to eating and drinking in excess.

[Anonymous No.4631748]

>>4631707
edgy

[Anonymous No.4631772]

>>4631316
Yeah but the SYRUP THAT CONTAINS IT is not the same. There are entirely different components everywhere except the fructose.

Fuck this is should be common sense.

[Anonymous No.4631780]

>>4631056

And the conversation was about 3 sodas a day. Math sez .5 * 3 = 1.5

[Anonymous No.4631781]

>>4631180

Not everyone who drinks these things are fat - but everyone who is fat drinks them. So like I said, don't start bitching when fatties like you have to pay the price for your choices.

[Anonymous No.4631790]

>>4631361
>hat fruits generally contain more other nutrients is not germane because if you bring them up, you have to apply the same argument to things like fruits themselves because most everything you can find nutritionally in fruits you can find in other foods or supplements sans sugars.

The exact point is that HFCS is empty. Is fructose from fruit any healthier? No. But fruit also contains fiber and micronutrients HFCS doesn't in a far less caloric dense form. So equating the two is just idiotic.

[Anonymous No.4631792]

>>4631382

Per amount - however realize that HFCS is a fourth the price of sucrose, so there is a connection between cheap processed food and HFCS, and cheap processed food is definitively linked to obesity.

[Anonymous No.4631867]

>>4630432
>>4630451
This. Pic related is the only artificially sweetened thing I can tolerate.

[Anonymous No.4631877]

>people equating the manmade High Fructose Corn Syrup with all natural sugars

This is like saying to avoid all fat because trans fat is bad. Shit humans make, including synthetic vitamin supplements, are not good for you. Eat all the fruit you want

[Anonymous No.4631888]

>>4631877
thats just dumb

fructose is exactly the same regardless of where it came from

Why would you possibly think the fact that man isolated a compound in some way changes the fundamental properties of that chemical?

[Anonymous No.4631894]

>>4631790
Wait for the guy on /ck/ that thinks fruit is the same as candy and has no health benefits.

[Anonymous No.4631900]

>>4631888

HFCS isn't fructose, it's distinct molecule that the human body doesn't know how to metabolize

H20 is water. H202 is hydrogen peroxide. Small differences in a chemical make-up can mean a lot.

[Anonymous No.4631901]

>>4631790
>But fruit also contains fiber and micronutrients HFCS doesn't in a far less caloric dense form
I don't think many people are eating corn sugar straight

[Anonymous No.4631908]

>>4631900
>it's distinct molecule that the human body doesn't know how to metabolize
What? No

HFCS is a mixture of glucose and fructose, and your body can certainly metabolize it.

It metabolizes it identically the way it would when these two sugars are present in fruit

Fructose is fructose, having it mixed with glucose doesn't change that, your example of hydrogen peroxide is entirely a different issue

[Anonymous No.4631912]

>>4631908

To even get the fructose from the corn flour, they have to introduce enzymes that change its composition. Those are enzymes humans don't have, and are crucial to the digestion of the corn-syrup. It ain't the same thing, brother.

[Anonymous No.4631915]

>>4631900
>Small differences in a chemical make-up can mean a lot.
but the fructose in HFCS is exactly the same as the fructose in fruit. What are you talking about? If it were a different chemical it would not be fructose, just like hydrogen peroxide is not water

A better analogy is that the water present from your tap is the exact same water that is in fruit

[Anonymous No.4631921]

>>4631912
>To even get the fructose from the corn flour, they have to introduce enzymes that change its composition
no, you are confused. They use these enzymes to generate fructose (and glucose) from sucrose. Not to chemically change fructose in some way

Fructose is not the same thing as sucrose, no one ever said it was. Fructose in HFCS is the same thing as fructose in fruit

[Anonymous No.4631985]

Honey has pretty much the same ratio of fructose to glucose as HFCS, and the western world has been using as its primary sweetener since antiquity until only a few hundred years ago

why isn't honey evil?

[Anonymous No.4631994]

>>4631985
Because it costs too much to put into shitty processed foods

[/ck/ No.4631996]

>>4631985
I like you

[Anonymous No.4631998]

>Only drink water and the occasional glass of milk
>Haven't had any soda in years, save ginger ale when feeling quesy
>Feels good, man

[Anonymous No.4632006]

>>4631908

This is true. However - what is never explained is the at the DNA level HFCS still reads grain sugar to the body. If you keep consuming high amounts of it everyday, the effects of what grain sugar does start to happen, and suddenly fatty mclegbags appears.

Doesn't help they don't discriminate the HFCS 55 and 90 in most products.

[Anonymous No.4632010]

>>4632006
>and suddenly fatty mclegbags appears.
thats happens with sucrose too


Or most other forms of calories for that matter

[Anonymous No.4632019]

>>4631994
bees are dying

pesticides and shit yo

[Anonymous No.4632052]

>>4631877
>including synthetic vitamin supplements, are not good for you.

That's how I would know when to invalidate someone's opinion

[Anonymous No.4632099]

>>4632006
>>4632010

People are so down on HFCS and it's so retarded.

HFCS, in and of itself, is better than straight sucrose in that it makes things sweeter for less caloric value.

The detriments of HFCS all have to do with the kind of food you find it in in supermarkets: soda, pastries, basically anything sweet, pre-manufactured, and completely lacking nutritional value. it's those foods you have to avoid, not HFCS itself.

[Anonymous No.4632115]

>>4630103

Water confirmed for sugar.

[Anonymous No.4632131]

>>4631998
Club soda with a squeeze of lemon juice is another great cure for nausea. You only need to sip a little glass of it slowly.

[Anonymous No.4632136]

>>4630748

This. You get fucked eventually, not because of ring of fat around your hips, it's because the ring of fat around your innards.

[Anonymous No.4632141]

>>4632099
HFCS in itself is not a great evil poison that will kill you with a single dosage. The biggest issue with it is how pervasive it is in the American diet (for God's sake its even in bread). Also, while it is true that you can use less HFCS to get the same amount of sweetness, most companies are adding more to increase the appeal of their products to consumers. What this results in is a massive overexposure to a processed for of cheap calories that is associated with numerous health problems.

I have no problem drinking a can of soda every once and a while, but I screen most of my other foods (notable bread). When you take issue with manufactured foods you should realize HFCS is itself a manufactured ingredient.

[Anonymous No.4632470]

>>4631463
>tfw don't give a shit because I have a tank of helium prepared in my closet that I've had there for a year now

[Anonymous No.4632487]

>>4632470
Good thinking, the helium will reduce your weight so you can eat more.