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So I have this recipe for chewy chocolate-chip cookies.
And it calls for bread flour. (More protein -> more gluten -> chewy)
Anyway, thing is, stores near me suck and I can't find any bread flour. Only bread mixes, that already have yeast in them and such nonsense, the "Only add water" stuff.

I read you could substitute bread flour for a mix of 60% AP flour and 40% whole-wheat flour.
Is this true coo/ck/s?
If not, any tips/help?

Also, general cookie baking thread, GO!

>> No.4514907

Can you buy vital wheat gluten? Just a few grams of that is enough to suitably boost the protein content if you've only got AP flour.

>> No.4514908

>>4514907

I have AP flour and bought some whole-wheat flour. I doubt they'd have vital wheat gluten if they don't even have bread flour.
Though if you say the 60/40 AP and whole-wheat thing doesn't work I could go check.

>> No.4514911

Have you checked supermarkets in your area thoroughly? If you're in the US, I can't imagine you not having at least one Super Walmart around. They would always have it. Any supermarket at all, actually.

>> No.4514915

>>4514911

Not to derail the thread, but NYC, El Paso, Kansas City, and Miami have all had some success keeping the cancer under control.

>> No.4514916

>>4514911

I have checked thoroughly, and no, I'm not in the US.
The only real flour they had in the supermarket were AP flour, whole-wheat flour, self-raising flour.
The rest were all pre-made mixes, mostly of the "only add water" variety. (Bread, brownies, cake etc.)

>> No.4514918

No.
Whole wheat flour has more fibre, not protein. It also has more fat. You need to buy gluten. Vital wheat gluten, to be precise. You can find it for sale in stores catering to two groups of people: health nuts and vegans/vegetarians.
G'luck.

Fun fact: I bake my biscuits/cookies with bread flour for dat chew. I use AP mostly for roux-making, pancakes/crêpes, scones/American southern biscuits and soda bread.

>> No.4514923

>>4514918

>You can find it for sale in stores catering to two groups of people: health nuts and vegans/vegetarians.

Darn. I used to be glad my city wasn't overrun with those types. But yeah, no such stores around.

>> No.4514931

Oh, just remembered. The supermarket did have buckwheat flour. Is that perhaps in anyway high-protein / appropriate for the chewy cookie?

>> No.4514935

Honestly if it's really this hard to locate I'd consider just having it shipped to you. Or find a local bakery and ask them?

>> No.4514942

>>4514935

Hm, I guess. I was kinda hoping to make the cookies tomorrow though.

I'll probably have some shipped, and try tomorrow with the 60/40 mix and see what happens.

>> No.4514957

>>4514923
Yeah, we don't really have them where I'm from, either. Those whackjobs are everywhere in English-speaking countries, though.

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4514964

>complain about "health food nuts"
>I didn't want their food anyway
>oh well guess I have to order online, better than living around "health nuts"

I don't understand this kind of thinking. did your parents teach you to be hostile to people who are different from you?

>> No.4514967

>>4514964
Since when is avoiding something or someone you don't like "hostile"?

>> No.4514969

>>4514964

Wow, someone's butthurt.

>> No.4514973

>>4514964
>>I don't understand this kind of thinking

thats about all you need to say
keep it positive

>> No.4514978

>>4514967

Since it made you be glad not to be able to buy basic baking supplies

>>4514969

I take it from your response that you're in internet mode and not answering the question seriously. If you don't care to try, no problem. I have a baking supply store half a block from my office so I don't need to worry about where to buy bread flour.

>> No.4514983

>>4514978
>Since it made you be glad

I don't think you know what the word "hostile" means.

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4514985

>>4514964
Clearly, the only being even remotely hostile is you. And even you are only being remotely hostile and not outwardly hostile. Do you even know what hostile means? Did your parents teach you to use words when you're not fully aware of their proper meanings?
>mfw this post was hostile to your stupidity
And now I've just called you stupid and that's downright hostile, you stupid fuck.

>> No.4514987

>>4514978

So, in order to buy basic baking supplies you need to live near "health nuts"? I sense a logical fallacy in there.

And I didn't seriously reply to your question, because it didn't deserve one. As,>>4514967
mentioned, being glad your city isn't overrun with people you don't like isn't "hostile".

I for one am glad that I can buy a big hunk of meat, without getting snarky looks from quinoa munching, grass-smoothie drinking hippies.

>> No.4514992

>>4514987

I see, so this is sour grapes. I'll enjoy having a choice between the traditional independent butcher serving the choicest cuts of dry aged beef, the independent farmer selling frozen hunks of whatever animal he last slaughtered, or the big national grocery store chain for buying my meat, just as I'll enjoy being able to patronize a hippie health food store, a baking supply store, or the grocery store for my baking supplies.

Enjoy trying to make your recipe with the wrong ingredients. I'd feel sorry for you but you obviously deserve to suffer.

>> No.4514996

>>4514992

Man, have you got a bunch of sand up your vagina or what. What has a cookie ever done to you?

>> No.4515021

>>4514996
Gluten intolerance and/or coeliac.

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>>4515021
>gluten intolerance while arguing about where to buy a box of vital wheat gluten

You "proud meat eaters" aren't too strong on this logic thing, are you.

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>>4515026
You can't possibly be this stupid. Pic related; it's what I'm doing in a quick sec.

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4515050

I'm surprised OP.
You have whole-wheat flour but not bread flour?
Are you sure?

>> No.4515077

>I read you could substitute bread flour for a mix of 60% AP flour and 40% whole-wheat flour.

Maybe for the purposes of a cookie recipe. That's definitely not what bread flour is, not at all.

You should substitute 100% whole wheat flour if you're just looking for some chew and don't mind the flavor/color

for soft/chewiness, making sure not to overcook the cookies is more important than the flour

>> No.4515085

>>4515077

Of course not overcooking is important. But you shouldn't overcook anything.
Using bread flour (more gluten & holds more moisture), and brown sugar (mollases keeps cookie moist), will make a chewier cookie than making one without them.

>> No.4515112

>>4515085
whole wheat absorbs more moisture than regular white flour, though at a slower rate.

I vote that OP add an overripe banana. Works for me.

>> No.4516163

>>4514964
No one in this thread said any of that. Only describing where those ingredients may be located.

I don't mind making a garbanzo bean cookie pie, but you can clearly see the line between eating a nutritious whole meal and someone throwing their politics at someone for their eating habits.

>> No.4516271

Couldn't you just try mixing the dough for a long time, and develop the gluten better? (being careful not to overheat it, lest you melt the butter) Surely that would help.