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4371562 No.4371562 [Reply] [Original]

>umami

If any of you faggots use this term of foodie commercialization and "alternative culinary" fad, I'll be serving your testicles as pate.

The term's savory, it's always been savory, and the only reason it's been changed from savory to fucking umami is to market on it.

Just sayin.

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Suck my umami balls.

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Umammy

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Ur ma's mammies.

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Urmammies

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>yer mammy

>> No.4371877

>>4371562
Steak is savory but not umami. A whole bunch of other savory foods are also not umami. Explain.

>> No.4371881

>>4371877

Your statement is incorrect, that's all the explanation needed. Savory and Umami mean the exact same thing. One word is English, the other is Japanese. The meanings are the same. A steak is both umami and savory because the words mean the same thing.

>> No.4371896

>>4371881

No, that's like saying umami and meaty mean the same thing. They are similar but clearly we would not need to say umami if savory was sufficient.

Please rage more about kawaii and chopsticks though, anon-kun ;)

>> No.4371900

>>4371896
>>4371877
>Umami /uːˈmɑːmi/, a savory taste,[1][2][3] is one of the five basic tastes, together with sweet, sour, bitter and salty. A loanword from the Japanese (うま味?), umami can be translated "pleasant savory taste".[4] This particular writing was chosen by Professor Kikunae Ikeda from umai (うまい) "delicious" and mi (味) "taste". The kanji 旨味 are used for a more general meaning to describe a food as delicious.

Definition of UMAMI
: a taste sensation that is meaty or savory and is produced by several amino acids and nucleotides (as glutamate and aspartate)
Origin of UMAMI
Japanese, savoriness, flavor
First Known Use: 1979

>> No.4371902

>>4371562
>he only reason it's been changed from savory to fucking umami is to market on it.

except it was the japanese who a) considered it to be a basic taste and b) proved this scientifically

yes our word for it is savoury, but historically we have never considered it a basic taste.

>> No.4371903

>>4371562
I like to use dried morel mushrooms for extra umami in my dishes. I also cook sliced mushrooms in single layers on both sides to increase their umami. Then I feed them to your mommy and she offers up her poonani.

>> No.4371919

>>4371900
>meaty OR savory
>OR
>can be translate

You just showed that the translation isn't 1:1. Also this >>4371902

>> No.4371932

>>4371919
>I've already run out of arguments already and have resorted to attacking specific word choice in dictionaries after I got real definitions shoved in my face

top fucking lel

it translates to savoury

>>>/a/

>> No.4371938

>>4371932

No amount of /a/ butthurt will change the fact that umami is now a mainstream part of English and "savoury" (sic) is regarded as being merely roughly similar, at best.

Go start a thread about how French food is pretentious now that you've been soundly defeated.

>> No.4371943

>>4371938
daily reminder that "u mad" is not an argument

go back to

>>>/a/

weeaboo scum

4chan is an American website for Anglos and people who don't worship Japanese culture only

>> No.4371946

I work in the food science industry and we call it umami, stop being so anal

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>>4371943

Daily reminder that repeating something unrelated a hundred times doesn't make you not wrong.

U MAD?

Also, I suggest you read the rules and FAQ before making an ass of yourself any further.

>> No.4371952

>>4371949
daily reminder that "u mad" is not an argument

go back to

>>>/a/

weeaboo scum

4chan is an American website for Anglos and people who don't worship Japanese culture only

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>>4371946
>food science industry

>> No.4371959

>>4371954

My starting pay was $70k/year, laugh away

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>>4371959
>only $70k
>any time past 1990

>> No.4371977

>>4371949

What does that screen shot have to do with anything? It says there are boards specifically for Japanese things. 4chan is not exclusively for that.

>> No.4371978

>>4371977

So Japanese food is forbidden on /ck/?

Take it to /q/, pervert.

>> No.4371988

>>4371968
Not that guy, but what do you do?

>> No.4371994

>>4371902
This exactly.

>> No.4371999

>>4371562
Umami isn't the same as savory though. Umami is a more specific term.

>> No.4371998

>>4371977
If you are afraid of Japanese words or culture, you shouldn't be on 4chan. Deal with it.

>> No.4372011

>>4371968

>starting salary

that's a high starting salary

>> No.4372035

>>4372011
Yeah, but undergrads who project their fantasy income based on some unknown metric for their major think it is low.

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>>4372035
>Ph.D. in Math
>any job I want
>$300k starting

>> No.4372061

>>4372041
>>4371968
>$

I think you meant yen or yuan. There is no place in America where a starting salary is $70k or more. I'm glad that whatever college you are currently attending has brainwashed you into thinking that though. Enjoy your crippling debt and retail job with your math degree.

>> No.4372072

>>4372041
Exactly.

>> No.4372075

>>4372061
Pretty sure University profs in Canada start at like 80k.

>> No.4372084

Umami is the scientific word for it, you faggot. It's a type of taste your tongue can detect.
It was discovered by a Japanese scientist and that's what it's now called. I've heard of it way before it apparently became a "marketed fad."

Savory is different because most wouldn't describe a tomato as "savory." But it does indeed have a umami taste.

>> No.4372096

>>4372035
that's not my fantasy income, I make just under 70k a year

>>4372061
I live in California and this is a strangely well paying profession. I'm currently working on tomato sauce (inb4 most boring job ever, I like it)