/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.4297085]

Who has the better cheese steak Pats or Genos?

[Anonymous No.4297100]

Both are tourist-trap shitholes. Go elsewhere in the city.

I was in Philly on business about a year ago. I went to both places, and frankly I wasn't impressed. I got a far better Philly from some hole-in-the-wall Italian joint that one of my customers took me. Sorry, I don't remember their name or location otherwise I would post it. Anyway, ask Philly locals. They will set you straight.

[Anonymous No.4297098]

I prefer Pat's with wiz, but I think any kind of connoisseurship based around a food that's honestly trash (albeit delicious trash) is silly.

(I'll still take a Philly cheesesteak over a shitty Chicago Italian beef any day).

[Anonymous No.4297113]

>>4297100
>Both are tourist-trap shitholes. Go elsewhere in the city.

10/10. This isn't just some hipsterfag advice either, it's completely true.

[Anonymous No.4297109]

They both suck. Find a food truck or some hole in the wall and I guarantee you'll get a better cheese steak than pats or genos.

[Anonymous No.4297115]

Neither of them. They're both pretty sub-par.

Go to shitty little private pizza places, the cheesesteaks will be vastly superior.

[Anonymous No.4297139]

Between the two, definitely Geno's. Provolone, with.

[Anonymous No.4297155]

>>4297100

>Both are tourist-trap shitholes. Go elsewhere in the city.

This, all of my this.

[Anonymous No.4297169]

>>4297100
This.

Philly native here.

100% this

[Anonymous No.4297200]

Jim's

[Anonymous No.4297249]

[Anonymous No.4297264]

>>4297249
Isn't that the place that forever ruined the cheesesteak for everyone?

[Anonymous No.4298563]

I live around Philly and the best cheesesteak I ever had came from Steak Master.

[Anonymous No.4298592]

>>4297264
Yes. They are bottom of the barrel awful. I made the post in obvious sarcasm. It baffles me how they remain in business.

[Anonymous No.4298596]

>go on /ck/ for first time ever.
>see cheesesteak thread
>I'M FROM PHILLY I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS!

NEITHER!
BOTH SUCK!
GO ANYWHERE ELSE!
the only lure to either is that they're more famous and open late for bars.
The best I ever had was Chinks... But that's out of the way in NE philly.
Just rule of thumb for cheesesteaks or any food or place in philly, if there's a line its not worth it.
No pats, no genos, no steaks on south, no jims.
Too expensive for something that is just as good anywhere else.

[Anonymous No.4298608]

Well, wouldn't it be most sensible for a tourist fag to eat at both Geno's and Pat's? Then also eat at the best hole in the wall?

Well "best" is subjective. The tourist fag would have to eat at every single god damn last mom and pop, hole in the wall, fast food, homestyle diner, as well as the touristfag, mainstream, fast food restaraunt(s)

Shut the fuck you fucking faggots.

Eat what you like. Enjoy it. What you don't like, you don't enjoy, hence you don't eat.

Common sense. Logic. Overview. Rationality,

[Anonymous No.4299369]

I cared for neither, and the prices at both are ridiculous.

I disagree with "just find some hole in the wall". There's plenty of those that suck too. Every sandwich and pizza shop in town sells cheesesteaks and many of them taste similar but there little differences like how coarsely the meat is chopped, how much and whay kind of cheese, and with every other little variable opinions will vary from anon to anon..

Here's how I would go about it if choosing blindly: stop a local and ask them. We're quite happy to help you out. If you can't do that, find a place that:

- has a small menu, if they sell every possible food item you've ever heard of, they are probably all mediocre

- has regular people working there. no aliens, fast-food teenage types, etc. 30yr or older folks, maybe 4 or 5 working there, look possibly related, that's your best bet. bonus points if italian. they don't necessarily cook better, but they seem to take more pride in their cooking and will try harder

- does not have a shitload of flashy signage stating how legendary they are. that never pans out.

- is moderately busy. my fav place is in an obscure spot with no foot traffic and somehow ended up by itself in an area zoned residential, so not many know/care its there. I give them a pass. But if you're near city center and the place is dead, there is a reason

[Anonymous No.4299372]

Subway

[Anonymous No.4299385]

>>4297098
>italian beef
>shitty

the fuck is wrong with you boy

nice spray cheese chump ass nigga

[Anonymous No.4299389]

The one has wiz on it.

I think right there one should be able to figure out they're probably both shit.

The best cheesesteak I ever had was in some little town outside Reading. It was amazing. I hated living in PA but I'd move back for that sandwich.

[Anonymous No.4299391]

I can get a good cheesesteak from my local sports bar
Or I can make my own
Fuck your tourist traps

[Anonymous No.4299397]

>>4299391
This.
There's a little place near me called Dominick's that makes a fucking killer cheesesteak. Or I can make my own. Or go to the little rat hole (I use that term endearingly, it's not filthy, just small and cramped) down the street simply callled "Cheesesteak Shop" that makes amazing cheesesteaks.

[Anonymous No.4299422]

>>4299369

The sammich shops don't care if you hang out and watch them make food. In fact, it is very rare to find a midwest style shop where you pay at a counter and the food is made in the back out of view. Here, the counter is just one end of the prep/grill/bake area. Hang out for a bit before you order and see what's cookin. See if it looks like quality ingredients, prepared skillfully, and ratios are what you like/expect. If not, walk two doors down to the next shop.

I would also advise you not order what is usually called a "full". That's the family size portion. You eat that and you are done for the day. Get a "half" or even better a "mini". That way you can sample several.

Ah and don't worry about the "authentic" bullshittery you may have heard. If the ingredient is on hand, they will add it to your steak without groaning. We just get tired of every chopped steak sammich being called a "philly". It would be the same thing if every pizza joint called their thin crust pizza "chicago style" just because of the catchy name. Its a completely different recipe. Philly Steak is a recipe. Some like it, some like to accessorize and that's fine.

[Anonymous No.4299462]

>>4299389
you know you can choose to get it with provolone or a couple different types of cheese, right?

[Anonymous No.4299490]

Wiz cheesesteaks are gross. Provolone master race reporting in.

[Anonymous No.4299600]

The thing that makes a cheesesteak authentic in Philly is the bread. You got to go with Amoroso. That said, the best cheesesteak in Philly is at Dalessandro's in Roxborough (far northwest Philly), although that isn't the best or most authentic Philly sandwich, if you want that get a italian pulled pork with broccoli rabe.

[Anonymous No.4299698]

>>4299600
Amoroso makes shit rolls.

[Anonymous No.4299705]

>>4297264

How did they do that?

[Anonymous No.4299722]

>>4299490
Though this is true, some diehard Philly natives will tell you that an authentic cheesesteak must have wiz on it. But sometimes you don't want to eat processed cheese product that tastes horrible and is probably horrible for you too.

I just prefer to make my own using break apart meat and rolls I get from Costco. I add onions, peppers (sweet and jalapeno), ketchup and whatever cheese I feel like.... typically a swiss like gruyere or even a sharp cheddar.

[Anonymous No.4299755]

>>4297085

roy's

[Anonymous No.4299793]

> I just prefer to make my own using break apart meat and rolls I get from Costco. I add onions, peppers (sweet and jalapeno), ketchup and whatever cheese I feel like.... typically a swiss like gruyere or even a sharp cheddar.

Gtfo... Your thread 404'd long time ago.

Your greaseball invention you call a sandwhich has nothing in common with a Philly steak. And if you know what Wiz is, you don't elaborate on the fact that it is processed. Only trolling dipshits bother to revive that tired old "real cheese" schtick.

[Anonymous No.4299802]

>shitty cheese wiz
B-but muh tradition!

[Anonymous No.4299853]

>>4299802
> B-but muh tradition!

B-but. That's so clever.

I was talking about the ghetto costco sammich with
> onions, peppers (sweet and jalapeno), ketchup and whatever cheese I feel like.... typically a swiss like gruyere or even a sharp cheddar

Typical fat kid looting mom's kitchen to pile a bunch of horseshit onto bread. I wonder if you can recommend what kind of white wine goes with gruyere and ketchup?"

[Anonymous No.4299859]

>>4299722
>some diehard Philly natives will tell you that an authentic cheesesteak must have wiz on it

Even that is BS. The philly sandwich was invented before cheese wiz, so the original must have had a different kind of cheese on it. That being said, Wiz has been offered for decades and decades in Philly so even though it's not "the original" it certainly is popular.

[Anonymous No.4299862]

>>4299802

[Anonymous No.4299898]

>>4297100
This nigga right here speaks the truth. Go to some local place and you will get better/

[Anonymous No.4300068]

>>4299898
Pats and Genos are pretty local to Philly, in case you haven't noticed.

[Anonymous No.4300086]

>2054
>Not going to Talk of The Town

[Anonymous No.4300087]

Pats.

[Anonymous No.4300110]

>>4300068
did you even READ his post?

[Anonymous No.4300117]

>>4298596
Chinks is the best in the city but Jims is almost just as good and a lot more convenient to get to.

Pats and Genos taste the same and they both suck.

[Anonymous No.4300144]

Jim's, and they ship Fedex to so I can get my fix when I'm nowhere near Philly

[Anonymous No.4300157]

>>4300086
LOL
Back in my college town, there used to be a (and the only) porn shop called "Talk of the Town". Can't hear that name without laughing. It was so sketchy, people used to buy whippets there, and they were always arresting guys for jerking off in the parking lot.

[Anonymous No.4300158]

>>4300110
Did you?

[Anonymous No.4300162]

>>4300144
>they ship Fedex
What kind of magic is this?

[None !OPIATE9fy. No.4300167]

Jim's on South

[Anonymous No.4300510]

People on the internet always try to talk up the "local" places. The internet is right about Pats and Genos being tourist traps, but they are wrong about all the small little shops having really good cheesesteaks. Most of those corner stores have good cheesesteaks that are cheap, but they are nothing special that you couldn't get elsewhere in the country. You would just be paying more

Now the locally famous places are really good. Jims, Chinks, Tony Lukes, Max's etc are really good. Personally Im not a big fan of Tony Lukes since they use a weird tasting extra sharp provolone, but everyone else I was with loved it. Chinks is definitely the best in the city.

[Anonymous No.4300543]

>not going to the Prince of Steaks in Langhorn
Plebs

[Anonymous No.4300600]

>>4297085
I think both are shitty. I haven't been there but apparently they put Cheez-Wiz on them? How the fuck can Philadelphians ruin their own fucking dish?

[Anonymous No.4300611]

>>4300600

It's an option. you can get wiz or provolone

[Anonymous No.4300628]

pats and genos are tourist traps, but if you are going down there, how do you not get both?

My favorite steak comes from a shop in Narberth. I think everyone has their own local favorite.

Ameroso rolls are a huge plus and make philly steaks and hoagies a lot better.

[Anonymous No.4300633]

>>4300628
Because they are both a 30 minute wait at the shortest no matter what time of day, are two of the most expensive cheesesteaks in the city, and if you're in South Philly there are like 3 other well known places with shorter waits and better food

[Anonymous No.4300638]

>>4300633
you eat one while in line for the other. easy.