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4250283 No.4250283[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Hey /ck/

Why do all your pizzas look like 1000 layers of disgusting atrocities? Why can't it just look like this?

>> No.4250305
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4250305

Well, amerifriends think a pizza must be really fat and greasy.

>> No.4250329

I think pizzas like that are fairly hard to find in the US. Most regions have their own style of pizza as well and not a lot of people really want to try something different if they've eaten it a certain way from when they were a child.

>> No.4250339

>>4250329

I have never eaten an amerifat type of pizza but what I have seen they all look pig disgusting

pizza expert here

>> No.4250344
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4250344

those pathetic little lost pieces of green shit look way out of place and unappetizing.

if you are going to slam everyone else's pizza pictures, at least provide a better example.

>> No.4250352

>>4250344
>notsureifserious.con.tre

>> No.4250353

>>4250283
because psuedo authentic hipster pizzas aren't as good as normal ones

>> No.4250354
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>>4250344

good its so fucking american and disgusting

>> No.4250355

>>4250339
I bet some American foods are pretty bastardized in other parts of the world like pizza is in the US. It's all relative.

>> No.4250356

>>4250353
>normal ones
I bet you are thinking of Pizza Hut when you say this.

>> No.4250360

>>4250355

>American foods

There are no "American foods".

>> No.4250365

>>4250360
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisine_of_the_United_States

Some are specific to the US, some are so far from what they used to be that they've become Americanized. Italian and Chinese cuisines in particular seem to be prone to this.

>> No.4250372

>>4250365

Yeah you just said it, "american food" is just bastardization of other countrys food.

>> No.4250379

>>4250372
I also said some dishes are specific to the US.

>> No.4250381

>>4250379

Like what?

All those dishes in the picture of the wiki article dont originate from the US.

>> No.4250387

>>4250381
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisine_of_the_United_States#Regional_cuisines

Take your pick, I'm not going to spoonfeed you this stuff.

>> No.4250394

>>4250387
See:
>>4250381

>> No.4250405

>>4250394
see
>>4250387

>> No.4250413

>>4250405
You should actually read that Wikipedia entry, not just glance at the subheading.

>> No.4250416

>>4250413
ironic

>> No.4250458
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4250458

But my toppings are just cheese and ham? ;_;

>> No.4250467

>>4250372

How is that different than any other country's food again? Every country modifies (aka bastardizes) food from elsewhere in the world. Italians using tomatoes for example. Japanse copying Chinese Ramen, British knockoffs of Indian dishes, Vietnamese dishes with French influence, etc, etc.

>> No.4250476

That's a good enough pizza for Europoors, OP but it just doesn't cut the mustard in America.

>> No.4250487
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>>4250467

When you think about italy you think about pizza, when you think about england you think about fish and chips, when you think about china you think about noodles, when you think about japan you think about sushi, but when you think about America you just think about all those food mentioned before just more gross and greasy. Just admit the USA has no own culture and is just a mix other cultures. Get over it.

>> No.4250491

>>4250458
>>4250344

>implying both of these don't look delicious

>> No.4250497

>>4250487
this.
cultureless fags.

>> No.4250502

>>4250487

I don't deny that USA has no food culture. I agree with you. I'm just curious how that's different from elsewhere.

I mean, you said "when you think of Italy you think of Pizza" yet pizza itself is made with tomatoes, which aren't native to Italy at all. The very dish you named as being typical of a certain country is, in fact, made with foreign ingredients.

>> No.4250505

>>4250487
>>4250497

>implying you don't think America when you think pizza

what the fuck is wrong with you? If you really think Italy, you're retarded

also
>not thinking fried chicken or burgers and fries when thinking of America
>not thinking of the several styles of American Barbeque

this is what happens when North Easterners try to talk about American food culture. You literally have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Get your asses to the south east and south west, and the midwest before you say stupid shit like that

>> No.4250506

>>4250502

Well as far as I know in the past they just threw all their leftovers on the dough and it didnt involve any tomato.

>> No.4250507

Tomatoes are American

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>>4250505
>>not thinking fried chicken or burgers and fries when thinking of America

I dont think of america when I think about that food, I think about niggers.

>> No.4250513

>>4250505

And since I am not a ignorant and cultureless pleb I associate pizza with Italy.

>> No.4250514

>>4250505
>pizza comes from italy
>name of 90% of pizzerias in my country either consist of some italian word, have the word "italian" mentioned in them, or at least their signs are in italian flag colors
>first pizza I ate in my life was on my vacation in Italy when I was a small child

no, I don't think "america" when pizza is mentioned, I really do think Italy. I guess I'm pants-on-head retarded, then

>> No.4250515

>>4250502

Cajun-style cooking, my friend. Louisiana.

>> No.4250517

>>4250513
>>4250514
ok, please continue associating pizza with Italy, while America still continues to produce it better, as it has done for decades

>LEL PLEB EATS AMERICAN FOOD SO FAT

idiots.

>> No.4250518

>>4250515
>Cajun-style

Originates from franche.

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>>4250517
it's italian food, because you cook it on american soil doesn't make it american, man

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>>4250523

Just stop replying to him, he is obviosly trying to trick you.

>> No.4250531

>>4250515

Lol, Cajun is a mixture of French and African influences. The "holy trinity" = French mirepoix. The bread for your Po-boys? French. Crawdads? That's old-school French. Gumbo? Okra? African.

>> No.4250561

>>4250531
Don't forget black-eyed peas (aka cowpeas, pigeon peas) are from Africa too!

>> No.4250568

>>4250561
>>4250531
>>4250523

>if all of the ingredients don't come from a place, that place has no claim to it

this is the worst thread I've ever seen on /ck/

>> No.4250585

Italian pizza is nicer really. American pizza is OK but too fatty and heavy. I could eat an Italian pizza every week, American one every month.

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>>4250568
oh no, you're right
>cook coq au vin
>use one of the many traditional french recipes
>add a dash of lime juice in the end
>cook it in chicago
oh look I just made chicago style coq au vine, traditional american meal, it's an american recipe because I made it a small bit different, I added small sprinkle of lime juice in the end, thus making it an genuine american recipe. yeah I don't think it works this way. Look I made this pizza same way as italians do, but mine is on a thicker dough cake, it's an american food now

>> No.4250647

>>4250531
Not to mention the "cajun people" are so stupid they forgot how to pronounce their nationality within a generation.

>> No.4250651

>>4250592
lol so much this.

>> No.4250653

>>4250585
ItaliAnon here.
I think our pizzas are fattier (there's like 80ml of oil per four-person pizza), but American pizzas are far bigger. I think they're about 3× larger than ours?
Either way, I like both ours and theirs. I also like Georgian pizza. Their sauce is made from plums!

>> No.4250659

I though that pizza was invented in New York by Italian immigrants and then Italians back in Italy altered it to be more in line with Italian cuisine. Is that wrong?

I know that Italy had comparable food ages ago, but the "Authentic Italian" pizzas like in OPs pic are a result of this immigrant exchange, and did not exist prior to it right?

>> No.4250665

>>4250653

Nah italian Pizza has around 700-900 kcalories and amerifat style pizza about 1200 and up

>> No.4250668

>>4250531
>mixes two seperate influences
>not its own cuisine

next you're going to claim that Korean food isn't its own thing because it is heavily influenced by both Japan and China. or that Thai food isn't its own cuisine because its influenced by India and China. Or that Burmese food isn't its own cuisine because its influenced by India and Thailand.

>> No.4250674

>>4250659

Nah, the first pizza as we know it was invented 11. Juni 1889 in Neapel, Italy.

>> No.4250677

>>4250659
You are wrong

>> No.4250681

>>4250674
>>4250677
Thanks guys.

>> No.4250686
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>>4250665
Again, I think it's because their pizza is so monstrously huge. I prefer ours, of course (though I'm not sure if this is because of bias or taste), but American pizza isn't bad.
I've had some really good pizza in the US as well as really bad. The worst is Philadelphia-style pizza: thick, chewy crust brushed with oil, topped with American cheese singles, pickled spicy yellow peppers and fresh tomato slices then sprinkled with "Italian seasoning," whatever that is. Just awful: pic related.

>> No.4250690

>>4250686
"Italian seasoning" is a blend of dried basil, oregano, and parsley. It's nothing horrible, just a cheap way to dash on some flavor for people who don't keep a sedimentary spice rack.

That pizza looks really weird.

>> No.4250697

>>4250686
>thick, chewy crust brushed with oil
sounds delicious
>topped with American cheese singles, pickled spicy yellow peppers and fresh tomato slices then sprinkled with "Italian seasoning,"
sounds gross, why choose those toppings? No pizza place only serves one set of toppings

PS Italian Seasoning is a blend of oregano, basil, marjoram, rosemary, and thyme, aka the main seasonings used in italian food.

>> No.4250704

>>4250690
>a sedimentary spice rack.
What. The. Fuck.

>> No.4250706

>>4250659
Common misconception amongst Americans.
Hey, the Chinese believe pizza was invented in Shanghai and brought back to Italy by Marco Polo.
The oldest references to a flat bread topped with meat and cheese, however, comes from the area of Tripoli where it was called 'pidze.'
It spread eastward, making its way to Greece and finally Magna Grecia, Naples being the seat of that region.
While the other areas nearly forgot about the dish, Naples kept it as a common street food and evolved it into many different varieties. The first modern-style tomato, mozzarella and basil pizza was made by Raffaele Esposito for Margherita of Savoy, using the tricolours of the newly formed Italian union. She reigned from 1880 to 1900, I believe, so it must have been created during that time.
Nonetheless, it's entirely possible some Neapolitans brought pizza to Philadelphia and/or New York and made different versions there, but the first tomato, mozzarella and basil pizza, and therefore mother of most modern pizzas, was a Neapolitan creation.

>> No.4250711

>>4250697
>thinks using rosemary and all the spices listed on every "Italian" dish is appropriate

lol

>> No.4250716

>>4250697
We don't use thyme all that much. At least not in my region. Marjoram is used almost exclusively in chicken soup. Regardless, those herbs would not be combined in any native Italian dish. I can understand other people mixing them together as an appropriation of foreign flavours, similar to the concept of curry powder, but it's not something we do.

>> No.4250720

>>4250706
>The oldest references to a flat bread topped with meat and cheese, however, comes from the area of Tripoli where it was called 'pidze.'
That isn't really convincing evidence for the origin of pizza.

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>>4250706
Very informative. You're a bro,

>> No.4250892

>>4250724
Thanks, but I mistakenly said "eastward" when I meant "westward."
I assumed, wrongly, that English "west" corresponds with Itaian "est" (which means 'east'). Sorry about that.
Sorry, also, for the delayed response: had to do a quick meeting for business.

>> No.4250904

>>4250892
The fact that you speak two languages is proof that you are smarter than most of the morons in this thread.

>> No.4250910

>>4250706
then theyre idiots. it uses ingredients which most fucking chinese people cant digest properly; cheese, and originated from frocaccia.

>> No.4250922

flat, richly topped, fresh meat and herbs

so damn delicious, fuck american pizzas

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>>4250922
forgot pic

>> No.4250928

>>4250924
I've seen better looking pizza in trash cans at the food court

>> No.4250930

>>4250283
Why do you even eat pizza? It's fucking disgusting.

>> No.4250931

>>4250928
true, but i couldn't find another proper Quatro Stagioni image where the pizza isn't divided in 4 parts

>> No.4250932

>>4250930
oh whelp, the Mexicans are awake