/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.4032123]

1. Your country.
2. Can you use chopsticks correctly?

[Anonymous No.4032128]

Canada.
Yes.

[Anonymous No.4032133]

U.S.

Kind of. I use my own method, which I find more comfortable, but the Asian part of family just assumes I'm a noob for doing it and then ask the waiter to get me a fork.

[Anonymous No.4032163]

U.S.
Yes
>>when it comes to shabu-shabu its sink or swim

[Anonymous No.4032175]

USA
Yes

But I didn't bother to learn until I was living in Korea and ended up having no choice. It wasn't hard. I was drunk late one night, stumbled into a ramyon cafe, ordered yakimandu and ramyon. She served my chow and gave me chopsticks. I figured it out in less than a minute while intoxicated. It's not a difficult task.

[Anonymous No.4032176]

1. Philipines
2. We eat with forks or our hands.

[Anonymous No.4032181]

Canada
Yes, but only because i went to China for two weeks

[Anonymous No.4032188]

>>4032176
Hand technique master race.

[Anonymous No.4032193]

America
yes

[Anonymous No.4032201]

USA
No

I have difficulty with the fine motor skills necessary to properly use chopsticks. It's not a matter of practice- I am literally unable to do it. Which is too bad because I would love to travel in Asia, but I don't want to look like a stupid foreigner/ ugly American.

[Anonymous No.4032203]

>>4032188
Some of my filipino friends try to learn how to use chopsticks because "they are asian" and are supposed to know how, but I don't see the point when we have our hands.

[Anonymous No.4032253]

1. USA
2. Hell naw

[Anonymous No.4032260]

>>4032201
Are you a stroke victim?

[Anonymous No.4032261]

>>4032203
Worst kind of filipinos right there, even worse reason to try to learn how to use chopsticks.

There's no easier way to get the right amount of rice and food you want than with your hands.

[Anonymous No.4032271]

>>4032261
In the civilized world, we use a spoon for rice and chop sticks for most everything else. I'd have to rank filipinos along side dogs.

[Anonymous No.4032277]

USAfag living in Japan

Yes, I can.

[Anonymous No.4032314]

>>4032260
Nope. I have Sensory Integration Disorder. I've got a thread going about it (and my service dog) on /an/ if you are curious.

[Anonymous No.4032315]

>>4032271
So you eat pizza with chopsticks?

[Anonymous No.4032319]

>>4032315
spoon

[Anonymous No.4032324]

Canada

Kind of

[Anonymous No.4032333]

>>4032315
Congratulations. You have the wit of a child.

[Anonymous No.4032340]

can someone explain to me a practical reason for using chopsticks over real utensils?

Like if all the asian wankery and tradition bullshit were put aside, is there any reason to put more effort into achieving the same result?

[Anonymous No.4032343]

>>4032340
>chop sticks
>effort

lolno

[Anonymous No.4032347]

>>4032343
if you knew what effort meant, you might understand

[Anonymous No.4032355]

>>4032340
Good luck having a go at these with a fork and spoon.

[Anonymous No.4032370]

>>4032340

I don't think that one is better than the other. I can use a chopsticks just as easily as a knife or a fork. They're just different, but I don't think that either is "better".

....I think a lot of people find chopsticks difficult to use, but that's just a matter of practice. I mean, if you've grown up using a fork then you have thousands of hours of practice using one...and you try chopsticks once and then find them hard to use? Big surprise. Practice a little and you'll find that they're simple to use.

[Anonymous No.4032372]

>>4032340
its a bit easier to pick up food without stabbing it like corn kernels and that size, did you know Asians don't use just chopsticks but also spoons

[Anonymous No.4032384]

>>4032370
implying forks are as hard to use as chopsticks regardless of experience

you seriously telling me someone who grew up all their lives using chopsticks will have trouble figuring out how to make a fork work?

people learned to use chopsticks because sticks were more readily available than forks, that's all there is to it

[Anonymous No.4032389]

1. Born in the US, parents are korean immigrants
2. Actually, no.

[Anonymous No.4032396]

>>4032384
And Asian cuisine has formed around the use of chopsticks.
There are plenty of foods where picking it up rather than sticking a fork into it and mashing it against the bowl/plate is a lot better.
For example, eating fish is much easier when using chopsticks where you can actually hold a bowl of rice in one hand and pick apart of the flesh with the chopsticks in another hand.

[Anonymous No.4032402]

Norway
Nope

[Anonymous No.4032409]

>>4032384

I didn't mean to imply they were equally difficult. My point is that both of them are sufficiently easy to use that any difference is negligible.

I never said that someone would find it difficult to use a fork, though I will say that it's probably a little less obvious than you might think. I've seen first-time Asian tourists in the USA try to stab soft food with a fork instead of scooping it up. Likewise I've seen westerners try to grab rice with chopsticks instead of scooping. Both of them do take a little practice to use optimally.

>>people learned to use chopsticks because sticks were more readily available than forks, that's all there is to it

I'm not disagreeing with you at all. That may well be true. I don't know anything about the history of chopsticks so I can't comment one way or the other. I'm simply saying that chopsticks are easy enough to use that why even argue about it?

[Anonymous No.4032420]

US

Yes, it's not fucking hard

[Anonymous No.4032470]

>>4032396
You ca achieve the same effect with a fork. Asian cuisine wasn't formed around the use of chopsticks. It's called adapting to what you have, idiot.

[Anonymous No.4032520]

Hungary
Yes

[Anonymous No.4032531]

>>4032470
I meant that very often Asian foods would more easily be eaten using chopsticks than forks due to the fact that chopsticks were nearly always used.
It's more difficult prying apart the flesh of a fish with a fork than it with a pair of chopsticks.
And if you were to use a fork to getting steamed vegetables in a bowl you'd crush the vegetables under it.
Or trying to eat thick rice noodles with a fork in a soup would be a hassle.

[Anonymous No.4032536]

US
Apparently, I can. Asian people won't stop telling me I use chopstick better than they do.

[Anonymous No.4032547]

NZ

Yes, we have bulk packs of chopsticks at my home because I prefer using then rather than a fork

[Anonymous No.4032552]

US
no

I can't really get the hang of holding the things ever.

[Anonymous No.4032554]

>>4032536
That fucking pic. Don;t tell me how to eat you pretentious fuck, if i want to eat half a fucking piece of sushi while dunking it into wasabi soy soup i will.

[Anonymous No.4032562]

>>4032531
I seriously now think that you do not know how to use a fork.

[Anonymous No.4032563]

>>4032554
I bet your rest your elbows on the table and talk with your mouth full of food too.

[Anonymous No.4032566]

>>4032562
What?
It's simply easier eating fish, assuming it's whole fish with bones, with a pair of chopsticks then with a fork.

[Anonymous No.4032570]

>>4032563
Daaaaaayum!

[Anonymous No.4032574]

>>4032123
>1. Your country.
Hungary
>2. Can you use chopsticks correctly?
Yes
I'm half-asian though.

[Anonymous No.4032578]

>>4032554

Hey, I'm not here to judge you but I will let you know that your behavior is the asian equivalent of chewing with your mouth open.

[Anonymous No.4032579]

1. Germany
2. Well, I don't know any Japanese/Chinese people who could correct me but I think I'm doing it right.

[Anonymous No.4032583]

>>4032578
"asian" here, no it isnt bro

[Anonymous No.4032606]

1. USA
2. I have an ass-backwards way of doing it which gets me through eating sushi but would not work for anything else.

[Anonymous No.4032608]

1. USA
2. Yes

Rather use a fork for most cases though.

[Anonymous No.4032629]

US.
Yes, extremely well. Buddy from China showed me how when I was a kid.

[Anonymous No.4032640]

As someone born in Korea and living in the United States I have a lot of white friends who say they're great at using chopsticks.
Most of them are too generous with their assessment of their chopstick skills. It's like a lot of people who say that they're bilingual then you figure out they're really not.

Anyways, I find it amusing but great that so many people want to learn how to use chopsticks.
I've been using one since I was a little kid so it seems completely natural to me. Last time I used a fork was to eat some spaghetti last month - strange that I always reach for a fork when I eat spaghetti but whenever I eat any other noodles I use chopsticks :P

[Anonymous No.4032683]

Denmark
Yes

[Anonymous No.4032713]

>>4032640
Agree. I'm an American-born Korean and I've been using chopsticks all my life. People need to realize that chopsticks should be imagined as an extension of your arm.

[Anonymous No.4033165]

UGHHHHH......Fucking Koreans.

[Anonymous No.4033176]

US.

Yes. I've tried them out a couple times and it was all utter failure, but then I decided to try them out again one day and everything just clicked.
>Korean-born
It must be in my genetics.

[Anonymous No.4033182]

>>4032640
>>4032713
>>4033176
Koreanmind

[Anonymous No.4033187]

US

They're easy enough to use if you use them enough. Problem is most people here will be presented with chopsticks at a restaurant maybe once every other year, and they'll use the fork/spoon combo for everything else, so they never see a need to attempt to learn how to use them.

I bought a pair of washable chopsticks and use them whenever I eat chopstickable food at home.

[Xenos No.4033191]

Boston, MA USA
Yes.

Almost weekly trips to a group of local Japanese little cafes for the past.. geez.. decade now.. have cemented my chop stick use. Though a friend of mine uses them in a differerlnt way I cannot figure.

[Anonymous No.4033194]

Canada.

Used to, stopped being a weeaboo, can't now.

[Anonymous No.4033222]

>>4033194
That's like... being in East Asia and forgetting how to use a fork.

[Anonymous No.4033227]

USA
Yes, I'm half Korean and have been using them regularly since early childhood. Chopstick usage in America isn't rare, but it's not common either. Most Americans that aren't of asian descent and don't go to sushi restaurants on occasion haven't learned.

[Anonymous No.4033229]

Australian living in South Korea
Yes

[Anonymous No.4033230]

>4033194
Goddamn Americ-
...
Goddamn Western Hemisphere.
>Canada
>America
>South America
I rest my case.

[Anonymous No.4033251]

Puerto Rico
>inb4 US territory

Yes, I can. I impressed a chinese girl if that counts.

[Anonymous No.4033293]

Canada
Yes, Asian food is incredibly common where I live

[Anonymous No.4033309]

Netherlands

Yes, but there's no real point in using them

[Xenos No.4033310]

>>4032536
I sometimes dip a bit of wasabi into the soy sauce to.soften it. I used to mix it in more and now I dont. Sometimes I just dip the fish or fish side in the soy a bit.

I never ever ever ate the sushi with the ginger. Belch. I always knew it was a palate clenser. I do somwtimes mix it.into tako yaki though

Some.places with chap chopsticks I do rub them. Whatever. They splinter.

[Anonymous No.4033374]

Ex-pat here living in the glorious homeland.

FUCK chopsticks. There's no "able to use correctly." The basic usage IS using them to the utmost. There are no levels where chopsticks suddenly become a glorious master utensil. That's why Japanese people have to lift their goddamn plates and bowls UP TO THEIR MOUTHS LIKE BARBARIANS to eat! I mean, just look at the OP picture! The fucking postergirl can't eat properly with these things!

Protip: if you have to pick vegetable pieces out of your soup one by one, then drink straight from the bowl, your culture is inferior. (they don't actually use those spoons that they always give you at japanese restaurants - they fucking pick out each component bit by bit and then fuck slurp the broth)

They are vastly inferior to the fork/spoon combo. There is no contest. There are very few foods that are better eaten with chopsticks, though these do exist. Insisting on using them 24/7 is a cultural remnant which will fade as GLORIOUS WESTERNIZATION takes over this pathetic country.

[Anonymous No.4033379]

>>4033374
>Implying westernization will continue to progress for long
>Implying Chinese culture won't come to dominate everywhere

[Anonymous No.4033381]

>>4033374
Though westernization is far more ugly than glorious, this anon is nonetheless quite correct. Chopsticks are ideally suited to eat sticky rice, noodles, and pieces of meat and vegetable. Definitely not soup.

[Anonymous No.4033390]

>>4033379
The Chinese are constantly destroying their own culture. Nothing survives for the masses when you live the way they do. There will be no exportation of Chinese culture regardless of their economic success because this success is based on crushing the multitudes underfoot, which inherently destroys the culture. The rich ones are adopting western shit like crazy.

[Anonymous No.4033394]

Sweden, and no.

Sushi is retarded.

[Anonymous No.4033410]

>>4033374
>UP TO THEIR MOUTHS LIKE BARBARIANS
You could've just said:
>I don't like them or their cultural differences

[Anonymous No.4033426]

USA
I'm Asian.

[Anonymous No.4033444]

>>4032340
The thing is is that it's less effort for the same result, depending on what you do beforehand.

Fork+knife+spoon = 3 items
Chopsticks+spoon = 2 items

Why did Asians not need the knife? Because some jerkass started a trend of eating with chopsticks, and to eat with them during such a fad, all the food needed to be cut and prepared in a manner as could be picked up by chopsticks BEFORE SERVING.

In essence, it's easier on the diner to just need two sticks; work is on the chef to cut everything up. Just stuck that way from the start of the fad because whatever philosopher thought it was cool knew it was easier than using your hands (as well, there was a school of thought that said it was barbaric to have knives, which represented aggression, at the table).

Why not forks? Ask the Europeans. They didn't even have them until the Restoration in England, at least (as far as I know from Supersizers Go).

So, in essence, up to that point, the British had been using just knives and spoons and hands, which is arguably harder than having the chef cut up your food so you can eat it without your hands and with chopsticks+spoon and not like a dog.

Interestingly, it shows up the same theme in East/West writing.
East: hard learning curve, easy use
West: easy learning curve, harder use (comparatively, and is mostly negligible, but true)

[Anonymous No.4033445]

>>4033390
The only culture China has left is the culture of eating all the animals until they are extinct.

[Anonymous No.4033448]

>>4033374
>lift their goddamn plates and bowls UP TO THEIR MOUTHS LIKE BARBARIANS
I would have agreed if you spoke about eating with your hands, but it's seems you dislike people for going the easy way about soup, or possibly even for using cups.
You silly, fuckwit.

[Anonymous No.4033472]

US
Yes

[Anonymous No.4033480]

US
yes

I actually like using chop sticks over forks sometimes. I'm just not one to like stabbing my food with anything. I also love to eat with my hands more than anything else.

[Anonymous No.4033487]

>>4033448
It's not just soup. They have to do it with rice, and anything with a sauce or small pieces that they can't get with the sticks.

they purposefully use a utensil that makes eating more difficult and forces you to look stupid trying to push shit into your mouth from an inch away with sticks.

And this is even with a lot of asian foods, I'm not even getting into when they try to eat western food this way.

I have no problem with cups, but I want to eat my soup as a cohesive dish, not as
"Okay... first lets eat all the veggies out.... now sip broth.... shit! Missed a veggie and it smacked me in the face!"

Maybe I'm just feeling super ethnocentric today, but I really believe chopsticks are objectively the worse utensil choice and using them is archaic.

At the very least, there's no reason for the "status" that murrcans tend to associate with usage - oh you're so multicultural! NO. You learned the stupider way of eating, to conform to a dying way of life.

[Anonymous No.4033496]

china/mexico

yes

and that bitch in op is not using them correctly

[clæsix !!w8P3ZOlfjjB No.4033497]

US
yes

Learned this year.

[Anonymous No.4033499]

>>4033487
I've never seen any Asian holding anything other than a rice bowl near their face when eating.
As for the soup, pic related.

You're definitely just ethnocentric, mate.

[Anonymous No.4033506]

1. chinese
2. pieces of meat/veggies - use them the normal way
bowls of rice/noodles/soup - grip both sticks in fist and use to shovel the food into your mouth

[Anonymous No.4033515]

>>4033499
where do you live?
I live in Japan and I see it every day at work.

Of course they're not going to hold things up to their faces in other countries - they know it's weird there.

[Anonymous No.4033518]

if you dont grab them by the top, you are doing it wrong


i bet you all faggots grab it by the middle


china fag here

[Anonymous No.4033520]

>>4033515
U.S.
But I've traveled to China, HK, and Vietnam.
I know Japan has a big slurping culture so that might be it.

[Anonymous No.4033535]

>>4033520
that's true - i shouldn't generalize. Also could be eating-out manners. I've never spied to see if it differs at a restaurant.

[clæsix !!w8P3ZOlfjjB No.4033537]

>>4033518
i'm a faggot..

[Anonymous No.4033539]

1. South Korea (born), Canada (current; citizen)
2. Yes.

[Anonymous No.4033540]

>>4033518
>chop stick manners
>china fag here
Who the fuck are you kidding? You're just going to slurp half the meal into your mouth once you get it off the plate.

[Anonymous No.4033544]

Hong Kong (half scottish half korean)

Yes

[Anonymous No.4033551]

>>4033544
Dude! Like the guys in the Starburst commercial?

[Anonymous No.4033552]

>>4033518
>if you dont grab them by the top, you are doing it wrong
>>4033518
>>4033518
>>4033518
>>4033518
i meant right!!!

top = right

middle = wrong


holy shit i fuked up bad

[Anonymous No.4033553]

>>4033540
No one said anything about manners, friend.
Just about how one holds their utensils.

[clæsix !!w8P3ZOlfjjB No.4033555]

>>4033551

[Anonymous No.4033996]

[Anonymous No.4034005]

US
yep, My japanese sensei taught me.

[Anonymous No.4034006]

So, whenever I see asians eating they always have whatever food it is, mapo dofu let's say, and a bowl of rice.

They take a bit of the mapo and like, tap it on the rice and eat it then they'll take a bite of rice.

What is going on here? How actually is this whole method of eating supposed to work?

[Anonymous No.4034012]

>>4034006
I think it's just so the food doesn't fall on the floor. If it does fall, it hits the rice and no harm done. Maybe they want the rice to soak up the sauce.

[Anonymous No.4034017]

1. USA
2. yes but i am still having trouble with rice and noodles

[Anonymous No.4034018]

>>4034012
Is there any reason they don't just serve the food itself over the rice? It's always like the food in one plate and then they hold a palm-sized bowl of rice while they eat.

Then again these are the people where two sticks won out as the predominant way to convey food to your face.

[Anonymous No.4034024]

>>4034006
I got into the habit of eating this way myself after living in Hong Kong for a while. I think the basic principle is that some of the sauce of whatever you're eating gets onto the rice to make it not taste so plain.

[Anonymous No.4034031]

>>4034018
Eating is a very communal thing to the Chinese. It feels more proper to serve the different dishes on plates in the middle of the table and give everyone their fair share of rice. Then people can pick and choose which dishes to eat more of.

Also, if the dish is served on rice, the leftovers can't be saved because the rice will absorb all the sauce and it will turn mushy and flavorless.

[Anonymous No.4034036]

1. Philippines
2. Yes. Started playing with chopsticks in the Chinese restaurant my family frequented when I was a kid. Next thing I know, I was using them for eating.

[Anonymous No.4034041]

[Anonymous No.4034043]

>>4034036
>flips trying to be more asian

lols

[Anonymous No.4034044]

Are you not holding chopsticks correctly?

[Anonymous No.4034052]

Lithuania
We here have knifes and forks so we don't need sticks lul

[Anonymous No.4034053]

1. NZ
2. Yes, but I refuse to use them unless I absolutely have to.

I don't understand the fascination with chopsticks. Why should I use your terrible utensils? I don't eat with my fucking hands at curry restaurants. Knife, fork and spoon don't care what you're eating -- they always work, they're precise, and I'm experienced with them. I don't care to amuse myself with a pair of sticks while eating, the food itself should be good enough to hold my attention.

[Anonymous No.4034056]

1. NZ
2. Yes, but I refuse to use them unless I absolutely have to.

I don't understand the fascination with chopsticks. Why should I use your terrible utensils? I don't eat with my fucking hands at curry restaurants. Knife, fork and spoon don't care what you're eating -- they always work, they're precise, and I'm experienced with them. I don't care to amuse myself with a pair of sticks while eating, especially if I'm eating something that's awkward or difficult to handle with them.

[Anonymous No.4034061]

1. Murrca
2. Yes

[Anonymous No.4034064]

USA.
Yes.

I'll use whatever utensils are provided, doesn't change the flavor.

[Anonymous No.4034069]

>US
>Yes and I love to

[Anonymous No.4034071]

Singapore.
Yes, because Chinese.

[Anonymous No.4034077]

>Australia
>Yes

[Anonymous No.4034087]

>>4034043
>implying most flips aren't part-asian

You'd be surprised at the number of people with Chinese surnames here.

[Anonymous No.4034112]

American. Yes, I don't know how anyone can struggle with chopsticks, all it takes is basic fucking motor skills.

The people who can't use them are probably the same people who can't snap their fingers, wink or whistle.

I don't give a fuck about using them unless it's sushi though. I don't like to touch sushi or sashimi by hand and a fork doesn't exactly work well in this department either.

[Anonymous No.4034150]

1. United States
2. No, though I haven't practiced all that much. If anyone's given me a crooked look for using a fork with noodles, I haven't noticed.

[TheWhitestKnightOfAll !!0/2QkOpy2Iz No.4034158]

>>4034077
ditto

[Anonymous No.4034161]

>>4032384
THIS

i love all the weeaboo faggots mastering these things thinking theyre just like their asian master race counterparts.

newsflash fuckwads: they used sticks because they were poor and couldnt afford proper silverware.

[Anonymous No.4034170]

>>4034031
Ah, that is actually quite genius and probably shouldn't be surprising. If there is a smarter way to do something it's pretty likely an asian already did it.

[Anonymous No.4034185]

1. America
2. Yes.

[Anonymous No.4034190]

Are most Taiwanese not holding chopsticks correctly?

[Anonymous No.4034208]

1. USA
2. I'm chinese, you best fucking believe I can use chopsticks correctly.

[Anonymous No.4034210]

>>4033518
lol, i still have asian friends that don't hold it by the top >.>.
i guess that's what I get with hanging out with pleb tier asians, like veits, and philipinos.

[Anonymous No.4034385]

I use a fork to eat fried rice. Whenever I go to my usual Chinese place, they give me chopsticks with fried rice.

I've tried it a dozen times, but it still baffles me how you can eat fried rice with chopsticks. Steamed rice, I can understand and do, since they're usually clumped together.

tl;dr: How do you eat fried rice with chopsticks without putting your face near the bowl?

[Anonymous No.4034411]

>>4034210
You know some shit tier Viets if they hold 'em by the middle.
I heard stories of my Viet friend parents slapping chopsticks out of their hands if they held theirs wrong as a children.

[MOMO !!A8BrPmZzO+j No.4034429]

1. Australia
2. No.

Unrelated matter but still related to OP's pic, but who ever wants the video of Sayu-chan eating

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrJ4QOqCYsY&feature=g-u

[Anonymous No.4034431]

US
Getting much better, my girlfriend is chinese so she gets a kick out of it when I fuck up using them. I'm not great, but still not entirely proficient

[Anonymous No.4034434]

>>4034429
off topic but are you black? srs question

[Anonymous No.4034439]

>>4034434

No, MOMO is not black.

[Anonymous No.4034443]

1. USA, Midwest, Minnesota.
2. Utter fucking clueless.

I pick up chopsticks and disaster results; nearby diners sue me for bodily injury. And I'm still hungry 'cause I haven't eaten enuff.

[Anonymous No.4034445]

>>4034439
ah ok I'm sorry I got confused with someone else then

[Anonymous No.4034497]

USA
Yes, my dad taught me when I was young. He learned to use them while he was on deployment in Korea. I still prefer fork and knife, but in social situations where it's required, I can use them well.

[Anonymous No.4034500]

Belarus
Yes

But the only place I see using chopsticks makes sense in the woods, where you can eat either with your dirty-dirty hands or with some sticks off nearest bush.

[Anonymous No.4034541]

>eating soba with chopsticks
>slurp noodles
>soup drop splashes into eye

[Anonymous No.4034560]

1. USA
2. yes, i lived in korea for 2 years

[p !P3141593qY No.4034589]

>>4033996
top right master race

[Anonymous No.4035053]

>>4034589
No.
Bottom left is the master race.

[Anonymous No.4035075]

>USA
>yes
>my father taught me, he learned when he was stationed in Korea in the Army

[Anonymous No.4035080]

>>4034497
are you me?
>>4035075

[Anonymous No.4035119]

>>4032123
1. U.S.A.
2. Yes, but irrelevant as I don't eat shit-tier ching-chong-bing-bong crap

[Anonymous No.4035130]

1. England
2. Yes, I learned at a Chinese restaurant in Spain, my Grandfather taught me. I only really use them for noodles though, I struggle with fried rice. If I've had a few drinks I'll use a fork.

I also use them to get popadoms out of the hot oil.