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New to beer, /ck/. So far this has been my favorite straight up beer. How am I doing?

>> No.3981999

>>3981992

boarder jumper level

>> No.3982006

>>3981999
Any recommendations?

>> No.3982017

>>3982006
where do you live?

microbrews vary wildly by region

>> No.3982021

>>3982017
I've had the "famous" local beer here before, wasn't too impressed. Looking mostly for larger-known, easily-obtained beers to begin with.

>> No.3982025

>>3982021
ok but what country?

>> No.3982028

>>3982025
USA.

>> No.3982030

Magic Hat brews for new guys.

Enter Allagash brews when you feel like being a man.

>> No.3982037

>>3982028
Ya, honestly I'd have a hard time recommending any large breweries to you in good conscience. I just have such disdain for what they do.

Negro Modela is a dark lager style. Lagers tend to be lighter in flavor, so a dark lager is an interesting mix between more intense barley roasting, and less intense yeast flavors. Problem is, there aren't many good dark lagers.

Honestly, go for Sam Adam's Boston Lager. Pretty good fuckin beer right there.

Magic Hat/Allagash are good suggestions.

If you're anywhere near CA, try to get Karl Strauss or Gordon Biersch. They have some good stuff that's not super intense.

>> No.3982049

>>3982037
I'm on the other side of the country.

My other favorite that I've had has been Shock Top, which is odd, because I didn't care for Blue Moon nearly as much.

>> No.3982051

Stella Artois is a great beer for starters. I still drink it every now and then. Very easy, clean, crisp.

>> No.3982062

>>3982037
I second this guy's vote for Sam Adams Boston Lager. It's much better than most of our other domestic swill (see Budweiser) but is still a perfectly palatable entry-level beer.

Another nice thing about SA is that they brew a bunch of other styles, so if you're feeling adventurous you could try their seasonal brews, IPAs, red ales etc.

>> No.3982074

>>3982051
I agree with this. It is by no means a great beer, but it is a clean, somewhat watery, easy beer for the new drinker.

>> No.3982081

>>3982049

Shock top is a wheat beer, right? Try out Rickard's White, if you can find it. It's a great domestic white beer.

>> No.3982107

Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale is making its way out to the market, and that is considered to be one of the best seasonal beers available in any market.

Sam Adams Boston Lager is a solid beer, but I much prefer Noble Pils.

Is there anything specific you're looking for in a beer?

>>3982021

Maybe it was old. Certain beers can be amazing when fresh, but a couple months later that same beer will be a shell of its former self. be sure to pay attention to 'Bottled on' or 'Best before' dates.

>> No.3982134

>>3982051
stella is the rolling rock of europe

>> No.3982159

>>3982134

It's only desired here because it's less common. It's more expensive too, because it comes from overseas.

I'm as adventurous as they get for strange and uncommon beers, but Stella is neither.

All things considered, Budweiser is a great beer for the price.

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>>3982159
>All things considered, Budweiser is a great beer for the price.

>> No.3982203

>>3982159
I think you mean PBR.

>> No.3982212

Beer is nasty, do they all have that disgusting bitter taste? I'll drink it to get wasted but there's no way I can drink it because I like it. I've only had guinness, corona, and budweiser.

>> No.3982217

>>3982212
Anon, try god-tier german lagers or belgian-style wit beers (many US microbrews do great wit beers).

As far as German Lagers, try Spaten, Hofbrau, Bitburger. You won't be disappoint

>> No.3982222

Belgium here, Stella isn't worth paying extra for. It should be among the cheaper beers (1.68 €/litre - 2.15$/4.23 US cups). Hoegaarden (1.82 €/litre - 2.33$/4.23 US cups) should be just as cheap and is far superior in quality, as far as every day beer goes.

-Prices are from Delhaize supermarkt chain, which apparently exists in the US too (Food Lion).

>> No.3982233

>>3982222
Fellow Belgian here. What you consider Good-tier beer is more like "best of the worst" beers.
Its your typical Café stuff.

I'd rather have a Leffe or a Chimay.

>> No.3982234

>>3982212
Honey and beer work really great together, the combination isn't bitter at all. I'm sure there's some great beers like that across the pond.

>> No.3982239

>>3982234
Belgian again, had a Palm 20minutes ago. Tasted pretty good.

>> No.3982251

>>3982233
Leffe is owned by Anheuser-Busch-InBev (budweiser).

Stick to true Trappist beers: Achel, Westvleteren, Orval, Rochefort, Chimay, Westmalle and La Trappe (Koningshoeven)

>> No.3982259

>>3982251
Didnt know that about Leffe, thanks. Ill support the local economy next time!

>> No.3982265

>>3982259
sure thing, just fighting the good fight.

i'm so goddamned jealous of those of you living in belgium. although, california is creating some really god-tier beer culture. sometimes I just wish there weren't so many ridiculous hop-bombs everywhere

>> No.3982281

>>3982265
I feel your pain, but we both live in great places. We, for instance have barely any forests left, and in Flanders they are preparing for the day we run out of space (2030 they believe). Id love to live in the US because of all the nature still around.
Just saying, culture does not invents itself but it takes centuries.
And about the beer culture, America won andbeated Belgium at an international beer contest in Brussels by 1 or 2 points.

>> No.3982285

>>3982233
Nowhere did I say this was "good tier" beer. People itt are looking to get drunk, and they're suggesting Stella, which is bottled piss from someone who drank too much Hoegaarden.

Good tier beer is Kwak, La Chouffe, Kasteelbier and Berenbier for me, but it'll cost way too much in the US, and so will Leffe and Chimay. No point in recommending people beer at inflated prices.

>> No.3982523

>>3982222

Guy who claimed bud was a great beer for the price here.

If I could get Hoegaarden for that price, I'd be a very happy man.

A large part of the problem is that beer is taxed up the ass over here. Another large part of the problem is that I live in a province where alcohol sale is a government controlled monopoly, so it the beer/liquor store doesn't stock it, you're shit out of luck.

I really wish I could find more varieties of beer here. All we seem to have are pale ales and lagers, and they're all so similar in taste, hence the budweiser claim.

Guinness is one of maybe 3 or 4 stouts, and one of maybe 2 good stouts (the other being St. Ambroise oatmeal stout). I can count the number of doubel, tripel and quadrupel beers on the fingers of my two hands.

Never seen a gueuze or a lambic outside of a restaurant, where I'd be paying 12-15 bucks a bottle.

The IPAs are good, thankfully, and it's one of the things that the local micros tend to do very well.

>> No.3982680

Not trying to highjack or anything, but I've been hoping to find somebody in Indiana who could possibly acquire and ship to me some Amon Amarth Ragnarok. I would, of course, cover the cost of the beer and shipping. As much as I would love to get it myself, making the trip just for beer is not something I could afford to do. This is about the best place, and I know that could be considered a horrible choice, to attempt this.

>> No.3982830

That's one of my favorites as well, OP.

You from Texas?

>> No.3982893

>>3982217
I just tried Bitburger per your suggestion, I found a 6 pack, tastes just like bud light to me. I could have spent that money on some liquor!

>> No.3982902

>>3982680
Go on craigslist in Indiana and make an ad. it would be safer than here.

>> No.3982931

>>3982680
How difficult is this in practice? I googled and everything is
>you have to lie to UPS

>> No.3982936

>>3982893

I don't understand why German lagers get so much acclaim. They all taste the same.

Get some Polish or Czech lagers if you want something pale but still kind of interesting.

>> No.3982949

>>3982936
I have a feeling I am going to think any beer is nasty, I might as well save my money for something else. Like some more Jameson.

>> No.3982962

>>3982949
>Jameson
Well there's your problem.

Kidding. Sorta.

>> No.3982993

Maybe it's not your thing now, but you shouldn't give up on beer so easily.

Beer has a vast wealth of different tastes, and, as is with most alcoholic beverages, is an acquired taste itself.

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3983037

About to open up one of these, pretty excited for it

>> No.3983181

>>3983037

Wisconsin?

That does look good. Wish I could get it here...

>> No.3983196

>>3983181

people in 49 states have the same wish

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3983207

Just had one of these (not my pic). It hit a bit harder than I expected it to, and it's damn good.

>> No.3983214

>>3983181
Yeah, Wisconsin has a lot of excellent beers you cannot find elsewhere

>> No.3983259

>>3982936
I agree. Czech pils is much better. Try Pivovar Herold it's currently my favorite from that style. But try to avoid Konrad if you run into that one. It tastes like any macro lager despite having the label pils.

>> No.3983274

>>3983259

Every time I buy a czech beer it tastes like a dead skunk's rotten vagina.

I only buy American homages to east czechestan pills. They may be made in ohio or whatever, but at least they taste good.

>> No.3983297

>>3983274

A skunky flavour indicates the beer has not been bottled recently.

People don't buy Czech beer enough where you live, and it goes bad on the shelf.

>> No.3983318

>>3982159

>budweiser
>great beer for the price

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>>3982203

Exacty

>> No.3983322

get some ommegang three philosophers, step up your life, son.

>> No.3983329

>>3983297
No, skunky beer indicates that the beer is lightstruck, which can happen very quickly (ie, within a couple hours). There are residual sulphur compounds present in beer that are contained in barley malt but are not detectable by the human palate. When those sulphur compounds react with hop iso-alpha acids (the bittering component of hops) in the presence of light, they form a different sulphur compound which has a much lower threshold for detection (easier to smell/taste). Which is why beer in clear or light green bottles tends to be skunky, and why beer is generally packaged in dark translucent or opaque packaging.

>> No.3983330

>>3983318

> PBR
> not absolute shit tier

laughinggirls.tiff

I'll take a bud over a PBR any day of the week.

>> No.3983332

>>3983329

I actually knew it was light exposure that did this, and I was going to correct myself, but I figured someone would do it for me.

You knew more about the chemistry than I did anyway.

>> No.3983340

>>3983332
It's cool. I'm a brewer by trade and I usually stay out of beer threads because they are so rage inducing but sometimes pedantry gets the better of me.

>> No.3983358

> I'm a brewer by trade and I usually stay out of beer threads because they are so rage inducing

This makes me sad. It's too bad when amateur know-it-alls take the real experts out of the discussion by being obstinate douchebags. I rather like coming here and learning things.

>> No.3983388

>>3983330
>I'll take a bud over a PBR any day of the week.
Then you are dumb and easily susceptible to marketing

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>>3983330