/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.3845536]

Prove you know anything about mushrooms and name these.

[Anonymous No.3845539]

>>3845536
sorry im not autistic with a special interest for mushrooms

[Anonymous No.3845542]

Some look like chanterelle, other don't

[☢ !2fiREZiSTw No.3845545]

I know a bit about cultivation but suck at identifying without a guide. Anyway if those are yours from picking, I'm jealous... Enjoy OP!

[Anonymous No.3845546]

>>3845539
You should know these, you can make amazing dishes with them.

[Anonymous No.3845551]

>>3845542
Some are chantarelle, some are another sort of chantarelle

>>3845545
Oh yes they are mine. It had rained for 28 hours non-stop and then it stopped, so I went out and ot was mushrooms everywhere. Drying some of them now, pic related

[☢ !2fiREZiSTw No.3845552]

>>3845546
Chanterell! Post pics of the meals you make from them. Did you get those from close to where you live?

[Anonymous No.3845553]

>>3845551
I love mushrooms but I don't go picking here in Canada. I'm from Poland and apparently the mushrooms here are different from the ones in Europe and could potentially look the same but be poisonous :(

[☢ !2fiREZiSTw No.3845555]

>>3845551
Do they dry well like that? I always dried in a negative pressure drying chamber with desiccant. Really easy to make.

[Anonymous No.3845559]

>>3845553
just download a mushroom identification book, or just look it up online. i doubt there will be more than a handful of common edible species where you live. shouldn't be too difficult to learn them.

[Anonymous No.3845560]

>>3845559
They say to go mushroom picking with experts first few times in a new area. I think I might find someone who goes picking around here and learn from them.

[Anonymous No.3845566]

Id love to go mushroom picking, but with about 15 types of poisonous mushrooms in the uk, ill probably just stick to buying them from Tesco.

[Anonymous No.3845571]

>>3845555
Yeah it has worked well for me before! Pic related

>>3845552
I made a Risotto with some of these today but forgot to photograph. Will take photo if I do anything more!

[Anonymous No.3845573]

>>3845552
And yeah, it's in a forest very close to my house (walking-distance).

[Anonymous No.3845577]

I am interested in the purpulish ones with decurrent gills OP - what are they?

I can't tell based on the picture... they look Clitocybe/Hygrocybe/Hygrophoropsis-like but I can't make them out.

Let me know.

[Anonymous No.3845578]

Alright so the ones I picked were regular Chantarells and these fellas, funnel chantarells. I was looking for Porcini too but it doesn't seem to be such a year.

[Anonymous No.3845580]

Hmm... can you circle them in the picture?

[Anonymous No.3845583]

>>3845580
This was to

>>3845577

[Anonymous No.3845585]

>Prove you know anything about mushrooms and name these.

I don't know much about mushrooms, but I'll name those. I choose to name them Hercules Shrooms.

Sounds cool.

[Anonymous No.3845588]

>>3845578
Oh okay C. tubaeformis I have never seen those before. Good stuff.

It has been really, really dry this year where I am, but we have been getting more and more rain. Boletes are popping up but I just moved here last fall, so I haven't found Boletus edulis spots yet.

[☢ !2fiREZiSTw No.3845587]

>>3845578
You know... You can make spore prints from those and cultivate your own fairly easily with just a small investment for materials.

[Anonymous No.3845590]

>>3845587
Yeah I know, but I haven't really gotten into trying it. Next time I find Porcini I will!

[Anonymous No.3845596]

>>3845587
Nah, you can't cultivate chanterelles effectively... best to just collect them.

[Anonymous No.3845599]

>>3845590
Most of the good ones (Boletes, chanterelles, etc.) are mycorrhizal and the best you can do is inoculate host seedlings with mycelia/spore suspensions and plant them out.

Then wait a few years at least and hope they didn't become contaminated and keep an eye out for fruiting bodies. Basically like they do with truffles.

[Anonymous No.3845600]

are there any mushrooms that you can cultivate yourself fairly inexpensively? no hallucinogenic shit.

[☢ !2fiREZiSTw No.3845605]

>>3845596
Interesting... I just checked that out. I guess they require a symbiotic relationship with trees. I never knew that! Do you grow?

[Anonymous No.3845607]

>>3845600
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0009IR4CK

[Anonymous No.3845610]

>>3845585
All hail the Hercules Shroom!

[☢ !2fiREZiSTw No.3845614]

>>3845600
Oyster, shiitake, There are morel kits, Portabella, Chicken of the woods, White button etc... Just search online and if interested join a forum. I've been a member of the shroomery for about 10 years, they lean towards magic mush. But have some amazing detailed info about gourmet mushroom cultivation.

[Anonymous No.3845746]

>>3845605
I grow lots of fungi in the lab, but mosly molds and the like. I have grown and fruited Grifola frondosa, Hericium coralloides, oyster mushroom, blewitts, and Psilocybe cubensis.

I like to pick mushrooms instead, and don't really have space/desire to grow them.

It is fun to collect specimens and get cultures from spores or tissue though.

[☢ !2fiREZiSTw No.3845767]

>>3845746
>lab

Why so serious? lol, that's really interesting! I was able to fruit psilocybe cyanescens a few times after a lot of trial and error. This was years ago though. I always think about growing again for cooking purpouses, but simply haven't gotten around to it.

I've always been fascinated by fungus and how it can simultaneously feed it's self while reproducing.

[Anonymous No.3845770]

>>3845536

mixed mushrooms.

[Anonymous No.3845774]

>>3845767
I collected spent coffee grinds for a bit and grew a blue oyster mushroom variety. It was really cool to see they could successfully grow and reproduce on what I would consider a pretty harsh substrate.

Fungi are very cool, and I personally find the microscopic ones even cooler than "mushrooms".

[Anonymous No.3845778]

>>3845542
'I'm proud that before i clicked reply hey i think those are chanterelle and i'm somewhat correct
also i had the indoor version for dinner with some lamb
buy OP's wild ones look amazing
(clean them good i fucking hate mushrooms with sand)

[Anonymous No.3845779]

>>3845614
thanks, i think i'll go with white button kit.

[☢ !2fiREZiSTw No.3845789]

>>3845779
White buttons are forgiving. You're going to have a blast, and be able to literally eat the fruits of your labor!

If you can post your progress here, when you get started.

Also there are so many sites with helpfull communities out there to answer question and give tips.

[Anonymous No.3845802]

>>3845536
Looks like some enoki and chanterelles. I can't really see anything else well enough to tell. But, only a spore print, bruise test, smell test, and taxonomy with them in my hands will tell for sure what they are.

[Anonymous No.3845879]

>>3845802
Not sure where you are getting the enoki from... the big brown pileus in the center?

[Anonymous No.3845891]

>>3845879
Buna enoki look like that, though I thought the color balance was a bit off in the OP's pic.

[Anonymous No.3845910]

I just looked up mushroom growing kits because of this thread.

FUCK! They are waaaaay too expensive compared to buying them in the store, which is absurd to say the least.

[Anonymous No.3845916]

Prove you know anything about mushrooms and name these.

[Anonymous No.3845918]

>>3845916
lion's mane

[Anonymous No.3845921]

>>3845916
thats a fungi retard
also thats lions mane rite?

[Anonymous No.3845922]

I live in an area where we get morrels, oyster, chanterelles, boletes, and bluits all growing.
Pic related, me picking bolete.

[Anonymous No.3845923]

>>3845910
yeah shit sucks. seems like it would be fun to do, but fuck paying $40 and possibly getting jack shit out of it. the only plus i can see is that you decide when to harvest.

[Anonymous No.3845925]

>>3845921
mushrooms are fungi

[Anonymous No.3845926]

>>3845921
>fungi
>mushrooms

[Anonymous No.3845927]

>>3845922
dem female hands

i'd let you pick my mushroom anytime, if you know what i mean.

[Anonymous No.3845930]

>>3845910
>>3845923
You get your money back in the amount of mushrooms you get just from the kit itself. Then once the kit has done its last good flush you can use the spawn inside to inoculate your own homemade kits. You can make an infinite number of your own kits and the original price is nothing.

[Anonymous No.3845931]

>>3845921
>>3845918
Fellow Paul Stamets fans? Either way, nice job.

[Anonymous No.3845932]

>>3845918
>>3845921
Fellow Paul Stamets fans? Either way, nice job.

[Anonymous No.3845942]

>>3845932
I've talked with him via email. I don't have any of his books though. I've ordered a pearl oyster bag kit and shiitake plug spawn from Fungi Perfecti. I'm patiently awaiting the first flush of shiitake.

[Anonymous No.3845947]

>>3845930
My calculation does not seem to show that as true.

[Anonymous No.3845951]

>>3845930
i read the reviews and some people got nothing or very few mushrooms.

[Anonymous No.3845959]

>>3845947
>>3845951
I get 3-4 full flushes from a single kit (about 30lbs of mushrooms max). Of course, I actually take care of the kit properly, which I know first hand that a lot of people don't do. I kept my pearl oyster kits going for a few years until my place got flooded. Those all came from the first kit.

[Anonymous No.3845964]

>>3845959
can you do a write up on how to actually do that? from the kit descriptions and the reviews it seems like 2lbs is about what people get. getting 15 times that would make me much more willing to shell out the money for a kit.

[Anonymous No.3845967]

>>3845942
I've tried the Reishi bag kit, and it's pretty legit.
I also think the mycelium extracts are also very good.

[Anonymous No.3845971]

>>3845964
I second this request.

[Anonymous No.3845974]

>>3845964
>2lbs

Jesus, that's terrible. The first flush on my first kit was 6lbs and it had flushed in the box on the way to my place and had eaten most of the Fungi Perfecti's catalog. lol I lost most of that flush and ended up only weighing what I saved which was the 6lbs or so.

>can you do a write up on how to actually do that?

I'm too tired for that right now (past midnight here, been canning tomatoes all day). I essentially googled and googled on how to make and care for mushroom kits and read the instructions many times trying to really get into what makes them do well. The main problem was my house was too hot, so I had to keep them at my mother's house and go there to take care of them until I rigged up something better at my place. In the end, I had about 50 mushroom kits of about half were from the original kit I bought and the rest were cultures I did from ones I harvested in the woods and from fresh ones at stores and farmer's markets. I've not done much since the flood with mushrooms. though, I plan to move away from kits and use logs from now on. They are FAR LESS WORK.

[Anonymous No.3845982]

>>3845974
wait, so i could use portobellos and white buttons from the store to grow my own mushrooms?

i'd prefer that over a kit as it would be more involved.

[Anonymous No.3845991]

>>3845982
them is cancerous
use shiitake, at the very least

[Anonymous No.3845995]

>>3845982
Yes. You can. If you are lucky you won't need to be all scientific with them. I didn't have a flow hood and HEPA filter or petri dishes. I literally just used my blender to make a paste with the mushrooms/fungi and growing medium (which is fungi specific depending on what you are growing). Of course there are some that need a host plant to grow on/in. I think giant puff ball is like that so I tried to make patches of them in my yard with limited success, but those were really hit or miss.

[Anonymous No.3845996]

>>3845982
>portobellos and white buttons

FYI, those are the same fungi at different life stages.

[Anonymous No.3845997]

>>3845991
No they aren't.

[☢ !2fiREZiSTw No.3845999]

>>3845959
You don't get 30 pounds of mushrooms from the average kits bought online or DIY kits in 4 flushes.

That's what you would harvest from a small outdoor straw/manure bed.

>>3845964
You don't need a kit, just do some basic research. You can make your own spore prints, or buy innoculation syringes.

Then simply obtain substrate materials, innoculate, allow for mycelium growth, birth, and wait.

Of course this will require an investment. It's best to start off with a kit, especially if youre new to mushroom cultivation or aren't a DIY project kinda person.

[Anonymous No.3846005]

>>3845995
what would you say is the best starter mushroom to grow without a kit?

[Anonymous No.3846014]

>>3845999
>You don't get 30 pounds

But I did they were really massive and heavy as hell. They were mush heavier than the Chicken-of-the-Woods which was just about half as much weight with the same volume; it is usually the opposite.

>>3846005
The easiest is pearl oyster "Pleurotus ostreatus". It grows on pretty much any cellulose-based growing medium. That is paper, used coffee grounds, sawdust, etc. If you have access to manure you can grow portobello "Agaricus bisporus" pretty easily.

[☢ !2fiREZiSTw No.3846015]

>>3845974
That's wet weight. If you're getting 6lbs wet weight on first flushes from kits, then you should have already moved on to casings and straw/dung.

What kits were you getting those results from and what mushrooms were you growing?

[Anonymous No.3846019]

>>3846015
>That's wet weight.

Of course. I was also comparing their wet weight with the wet weight of the local farmer's market that sells them too. I made my money back pretty quickly. I was growing pearl oyster.

[sage No.3846024]

I hate mushrooms so much that i'm going out of my way just to sage this

fuck mushrooms

[Anonymous No.3846025]

>>3845997
>Some studies have revealed that raw A. bisporus - along with some other edible mushrooms - contain small amounts of carcinogenic hydrazine derivatives, including agaritine and gyromitrin. However, this research also noted when cooked, these compounds were reduced significantly.

[Anonymous No.3846027]

>>3846024
I feel sorry for you. You will never get to experience the awesome that is chicken-of-the-woods schnitzel'd and deep fried as though it was real chicken and used as the filler for a burger. It is NOTHING at all like any other fungi and is very well named.

[Anonymous No.3846029]

>>3846025
>cancerous

Not cancerous. Learn to terminology.

Carcinogenic =/= Cancerous

[Anonymous No.3846032]

>>3846029
>car·cin·o·gen [kahr-sin-uh-juhn, -jen, kahr-suh-nuh-jen, -noh-] Show IPA
>noun Pathology .
>any substance or agent that tends to produce a cancer.

[Anonymous No.3846033]

>>3846025
>>3846029
>Carcinogenic

I'm sorry.. i've just got this thing against digesting things that naturally want to kill me.
You go right ahead though

[☢ !2fiREZiSTw No.3846034]

>>3846019
What kit did you purchase that yielded a 6 pound first flush? What type of mushrooms were they?

[Anonymous No.3846145]

>>3845921
>thats a fungi

I lol'd.

[Anonymous No.3846151]

>>3846150
Both are correct.

[Anonymous No.3846150]

did you know it's properly pronounced "funji", not "funguy"?

[Anonymous No.3846178]

>>3845916
Hericium americanum doesn't occur in my area, but H. coralloides does. An excellent mushroom and very easy to cultivate.

[Anonymous No.3846184]

>>3845991
>them is cancerous
>them is

You might have better luck with people listening to you if you refrain from being a fucking NIGGER.

[Anonymous No.3846185]

>>3845932
I bought a couple Stamets books. His cultivation books are solid and Mycelium Running was interesting, but he is too much of a flaky entrepeneur for me.

I met him at a mycology conference once. He does not go to many scientific meetings because he is more comfortable with being paid to talk and feel like a rockstar in front of people that do not know any better.

/paul stamets rant

[Anonymous No.3846575]

>>3845879
That one is a Suillus variegatus that I found, but unfortunately I only found one.

[Anonymous No.3846599]

>>3846024
>Typing "sage" as subject

[Smithski the NKVD commissar No.3846638]

Any know people who have experience with mushroom hunting in New Zealand?

[Anonymous No.3846658]

in swedish: trattkantareller plus random shit.

[Anonymous No.3846661]

>>3846658
Oh yes we got a swede finally! Yes, they are Trattkantareller, kantareller, sandsopp and tegelsopp. Was looking for Svart trumpetsvamp and Karl-Johan but didn't find any unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.3846690]

>>3846033
If you did some research, you'd find that most things and food additives are in some way carcinogenic. Take dairy products for instance. Almost every single dairy product has carrageenan in it now.

You are just being dramatic.

[Anonymous No.3846693]

>>3846034
Uh, I just told you in >>3846019 "pearl oyster."

>>3846185
lol Yeah, I got that vibe from him in emails.

[Anonymous No.3846723]

>>3846690
didnt know that seaweed @carageenan is a carcinogen

[Anonymous No.3846741]

>>3846690
Even if many edible foods have carcinogenic compounds, they also contain many counteracting anti-carcinogenic compounds, which typically supress and neutralize the cancer-causing properties.

The button caps are a perfect example of this, but may possible contain more carcinogenic than anti-carcenogenic properties. And those are the food items that you should probably stay away from.

[Anonymous No.3846787]

I only recognize the chanterelles and funnel chanterelles :(

[Anonymous No.3847669]

>>3846723
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrageenan#Health_concerns

>Based on research showing that it leads to colon cancer in laboratory animals, the International Agency for Research on Cancer recognizes degraded carrageenan as a "possible human carcinogen" and organizations such as the Cornucopia Institute are calling for it to be withdrawn from inclusion among acceptable ingredients in organic foods by the USDA.[19]

>>3846690
Some people find omitting certain foods from their diet as being dramatic.

I think intestinal cancer will cause quite a bit of drama in their lives.

[Anonymous No.3847673]

We don't really pick mushrooms here in America as most are poisonous.

[Anonymous No.3847688]

>>3847673
You ignorance....it burns!

There's mushroom hunting clubs and classes all over America. There's tons and tons of edible fungi here. Hell, I've seen fist fights over who gets to hunt what section of land during morel season.

[Anonymous No.3847774]

>>3847673
Just learn which are edible and which aren't!

[Anonymous No.3847893]

>>3847673
>most are poisonous

Wow. Just wow.

G. Wasson was correct in dividing societies as "mycophobes" and "mycophiles". The U.K. and subsequent colonies definitely fall in the former category, based on ignorance and fear.

[Anonymous No.3847896]

>>3847893
Britfag detected.

[Anonymous No.3847913]

>>3847893
Don't listen to that guy. He can't speak for my section of the US. He's just an ignorant.

[☢ !2fiREZiSTw No.3848122]

>>3846693

What kit or method did you use to get a 6lb first flush? That doesn't sound right at all... Way to big. Do you have a an outdoor bed? Was this a huge indoor casing?

Do you have pics to share?

[Anonymous No.3848189]

>>3847913
>>3847896

Why would you think I am British?

And it is pretty well-established that America as a whole is not as crazy about mushrooms. Russula and Lactarius spp. are basically ignored, yet in Europe they are widely collected. This is because Americans don't venture beyond the common edibles.

Obviously this is a generalization, things are changing (especially with immigration). But most of the "MUSHROOMS ARE BAD!" replies are always from N. Americans.

[Anonymous No.3848197]

>>3848189
i blame the large irish populations in the US. micks seem to believe that if it's not a potato then it's inedible.

[Anonymous No.3848201]

>>3848197
It isn't just Ireland...

[Anonymous No.3848215]

>>3848201
yes, it is. don't question me.

[Anonymous No.3848220]

>>3848215
O-o-okay s-sir.

[Anonymous No.3848253]

>>3848189
>But most of the "MUSHROOMS ARE BAD!" replies are always from N. Americans.

You can't possible know that.

[Anonymous No.3848275]

>>3848189
Britfags are always the ones posting shitty nationalist trolls because they can't handle people talking about things that aren't them.

They say America's the big retard nationalist filled country, but I say it's the UK. At least Americans aren't clinging onto a long dead Empire and a vestigial royalty.

[Anonymous No.3848301]

>>3848275
>At least Americans aren't clinging onto a long dead Empire and a vestigial royalty.

Americans are clinging on to something far, far less worthwhile...

[Anonymous No.3848322]

>"Great" Britain

[Anonymous No.3848337]

>>3848189
What are you talking about? There's tons of mushroom enthusiasts in the US. Do you live in the desert or the middle of a large city or something?

>>3848122
>What kit or method did you use to get a 6lb first flush?

I bought this exact kit,

http://fungi.com/product-detail/product/the-pearl-oyster-mushroom-patch.html

>Do you have pics to share?

Yes, I have one pic of that particular one during one of its lesser flushes (not the largest flush, this one was something around 4lbs). You've probably seen this pic before since it is pretty old (2007) and I have posted it a few times in /ck/ in various mushroom threads including the original when I first took the pic. I had to hook up an external HDD to find this pic.

>5 years ago

Oh god.

I think I posted my shiitake logs too, but I can't seem to find pics. they were recent and I hadn't backed up then just before I had an HDD crash. Though, I can take pics of them at light tomorrow if I remember. Though, they aren't much to see, just logs with silver-grey wine bottling wax over the plug holes.

[Anonymous No.3848346]

>>3848337
Oh and here's a pic of my gem-studded puffballs from my harvest in July. Now, these things are extremely light. There's only about 1/4-1/8 of a pound here. The giant puff balls are much heavier by volume than these are and the pearl oysters I used to grow much much heaver than that.

[Anonymous No.3848350]

>>3848337
can you do that write up now?

[Anonymous No.3848368]

Not trying to flame anyone, but I didn't know mushrooms had a huge following, as a hobby. Then again I shouldn't be too surprised since people can be into any little thing.

[Anonymous No.3848375]

>>3848337
And, here's a wild flush or chicken-of-the-woods I got some time ago (and posted on /ck/ several times, from hunting to eating them). This is what 17ish pounds of chicken-of-the-woods looks like. Each big piece was 3-6 pounds.

>>3848350
lol Dang, I forgot. It's past midnight again too. Upon review, there's not much to tell that you can't read ITT and from what I've already posted. It is mainly a waiting game and keeping the correct humidity, temp, and light

[Anonymous No.3848376]

>>3848375
Pic of some of it cooked as the main part of a sandwich. These were so damn good.

[Anonymous No.3848384]

>>3848376
More pics from 2007. Just some wild giant puffballs. They were pretty tasty.

[Anonymous No.3848393]

>>3848384
One more pic I was able to find (2006).

[Anonymous No.3848397]

>>3848337
Ha, I was able to find the original set of pics of that one smaller flush. Here's a better close up of it. I wish I had pics of it when it was full grown.