/tea/ - oribe ware edition

[Anonymous No.20509216]

This thread is for discussing teas, tisanes, and other herbal infusions.

info: types of tea, where to get tea, how to brew tea
https://rentry.org/teageneral

previous thread: >>20488325

[Anonymous No.20509252]

teavivre is a gem. looks like they also have unflavored jin xuan -- have been looking for one of those for awhile now

[Anonymous No.20509287]

>>20509194
>but after disabling my adblock it shows it now
Sometimes it is worth temporally disabling addblock to see if a shop has a newsletter deal. A lot of shops (not just tea related) have X% off your first purchase offers if you sign up too their newsletter. Use a spare email of course. The more you save the more tea you can buy!
A few other /tea/ deals I know of:
https://verdanttea.com/five-teas-for-5 They also used to have a code for half off your first month of tea club but I think they stopped it.
https://yunomi.life/pages/the-yunomi-newsletter says " ¥1000 coupon off your first order of ¥3000" but it used to just give you free sample pack.
https://cspuerh.com/ has $20 off referral code deals.
https://kingteamall.com/ has 10% off referral code deals.
https://www.liquidproust.com/ does a $5+S&H puerh beginners sample pack every november.
Besides the 5 free samples https://www.teavivre.com/ gives out free rewards points on holiday sales with no purchase necessary that you can bank for later.

Anyone know of any other deals?

[Anonymous No.20509313]

>>20509140
>Is tea-expert.net trustworthy retailer?
Yes
>russian company?
Pretty sure they are Chinese, they just sell to Russia because the Russians like their tea.

[Anonymous No.20509329]

>>20509287
probably most know of this, but YS has a ton of BOGO or just entirely free stuff based on order value:
https://yunnansourcing.com/pages/free-and-bogo

[Anonymous No.20509355]

>>20509194
>it definitely improved the duck shit and peach aroma samples I had, much more flavorful soup this time, thanks again for that suggestion!
Glad it helped. Generally with tea if you want it more flavorful but not more bitter use more tea leaf and not longer steep times. Tea leaf to water ratios and steep time both seem to affect the taste of tea differently. It is not as quite as simple as more/longer is stronger. Water temperature and mineral content can both modify the taste profile as well but I mostly don't mess with those variables besides using cooler water for green teas and avoiding hard water.

[Anonymous No.20509364]

>>20509287
You can supposedly get 5% off fullchea permanently if you post a review on VK.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/pages/get-discounts-23

[Anonymous No.20509443]

Anyone have a referral code for King Tea Mall before I check out? Or some other kind of coupon, the shipping is a bitch.

[Anonymous No.20509457]

>>20509443
>Anyone have a referral code for King Tea Mall before I check out?
Give me just a few minutes and I will make one.

[Anonymous No.20509460]

>>20509457
Thank you anon, enjoy your referral points.

[Anonymous No.20509462]

I spend a few hundred bucks per month in tea. This can't be healthy, right?

[Anonymous No.20509465]

>>20509443
Here you go. This should get you 10% off. (I will get a 10% code too if you use it)
https://i.refs.cc/m7RecNT1?smile_ref=eyJzbWlsZV9zb3VyY2UiOiJzbWlsZV91aSIsInNtaWxlX21lZGl1bSI6IiIsInNtaWxlX2NhbXBhaWduIjoicmVmZXJyYWxfcHJvZ3JhbSIsInNtaWxlX2N1c3RvbWVyX2lkIjoyMjUyMDQ0NDk1fQ%3D%3D

>the shipping is a bitch.
Tell me about it. I would shop with them more often if it were cheaper.

[Anonymous No.20509474]

>>20509462
nothing wrong with spending a lot on hobbies as long as you still have enough left to pay for necessities and contribute to your savings if you ask me

[Anonymous No.20509487]

>>20509313
NTA but what's the best tea to get from Tea Expert? Willing to get some offbeat choices or ones that nobody's tried yet.

[Anonymous No.20509540]

>>20509487
im nta, but I really liked these

Ripe-Mengku Bo Jun 100g sample
Raw-Mengku Ben Wei Dacheng 100g sample
White- "聶羣號嘎巴 白茶 - Бeлый чaй ГAБA oт бpeндa He Цюнь Хao"

[Anonymous No.20509572]

>>20509487
>what's the best tea to get from Tea Expert?
A couple of anons really like this shou. https://tea-expert.net/index.php?route=product/search&search=Bo%20Jun I think they got a sample of the 2020 brick
>Willing to get some offbeat choices or ones that nobody's tried yet.
https://tea-expert.net/50104-nie-qun-hao-liu-zhong-gaba-cha Looks fun, if shipping is cheap I will get this too.
https://tea-expert.net/fermerskij-chaj-puer/00150-yi-jun-keiji-shu-puer I don't recommend drinking it if you are already on a statin but it probably does not contain enough to matter.
https://tea-expert.net/magazin-kitajskogo-chaya/tyomnyj-chaj-hej-cha/30012-miandian-de-shu-puer Or any of the other Burmese shou https://tea-expert.net/magazin-kitajskogo-chaya/tyomnyj-chaj-hej-cha
https://tea-expert.net/fermerskij-chaj-puer/00086-da-ye-shu-puer-cha-santide-2008

[Anonymous No.20509583]

>>20509216
>oribe ware
>a green splotch on a perfect factory-formed cup
This shit ain't wabi-sabi

[Anonymous No.20509593]

>>20509487
Zunyi hong is probably my favorite black tea from them.

[Anonymous No.20509600]

>>20509572
They also have Cha Gao
https://tea-expert.net/magazin-kitajskogo-chaya/puer/smola-puera

[Anonymous No.20509717]

>>20509462
What's your ¢/g baseline?

[Anonymous No.20509971]

>>20509462
Last year on my budget spreadsheet I started adding up all the money I spent on each individual hobby every month.
My 2023 average monthly spending on tea was $315.31. (Although this includes a few yixing pots and I don't plan to buy more unless I happen to see one I really like).
I still have money for bills, food, and my retirement fund, and usually some to put into savings.
I like tea and get a lot of enjoyment out of it, I think it's worth it.
Physically healthy? I don't think it's a problem but idk. Definitely healthier than soda or alcohol.

[Anonymous No.20510009]

any turkic/caucus or russian bros in thread can tell me what kind of tea to buy to make the tea commonly served with meals there, i think it's a black and green blend with orange and lemon but i couldn't remember the name of it. it was not earthy but very refreshing

[Anonymous No.20510144]

>>20509140
>Is tea-expert.net trustworthy retailer? Won't you get your door kicked in by gov agents for sending money to and receiving goods from russian company?
Tea expert is a chinese company owned by a chinese guy that lives on an island in the south china sea. He is just a massive russiabo.
Also buy 100g of this
https://tea-expert.net/mengku/10098-benwei-dacheng-1kg-2020
And i strongly recommend 100g of this
https://tea-expert.net/mengku/00135-mengku-bojun-2020?page=2

[Anonymous No.20510147]

>>20510144
>island in the south china sea
Err an island off the southern coast of china is maybe more accurate

[Anonymous No.20510521]

My Viet Sun tea order made it through customs and to the local post office and then... shipped half way across the country. Fucking USPS...

[Anonymous No.20510602]

>>20509465
it doesn't seem to work when I click through, or at least I don't seeee the discount. Thank you for trying though anon.

[Anonymous No.20510629]

>>20510521
Mine just landed in the uk yesterday. What did you go for?

[Anonymous No.20510672]

>>20510629
I ordered a sample of their green, black, and one of the pu-erhs. I'm realizing now I probably should have ordered a bit more than a sample in case I like them because the pu-erh is already out of stock it seems. Which did you order?

[Anonymous No.20510753]

>>20509216
Good places for roast oolongs? Preferably something in English, I'm buying with someone else.

[Anonymous No.20510760]

>>20510753
Teahome for Taiwanese oolongs specifically
The legend of tung ting or provate room tea from this page.
https://www.teahome.com/product/upteah/
King tea mall or chawangshop for wuyi oolong

[Anonymous No.20510787]

>>20510760
Regarding the legend of tung ting, do you know what the difference is between the 355 yuan for 150 g and the 380 yuan for 150 g? Thanks for the recommendations regardless.

[Anonymous No.20510801]

>>20510787
Yeah ive had both, the more expensive one is supposed to slightly more roasted with fancy charcoal. It's maybe a tiny bit more complex but they are both good so im not sure if it's really worth the extra dosh.
I haven't tried the private room tea yet but i tried the roasted version of the tea he used for the blend and it's really good, so i bet that one is solid.
That's the "featured alishan roasting fire" from this page which is also good. Has some hints of fruit sweetness.
https://www.teahome.com/product/ao202700/

[Anonymous No.20510870]

>>20510602
>it doesn't seem to work when I click through, or at least I don't seeee the discount. Thank you for trying though anon.
The link works, i tested it in Firefox and Chrome on desktop. You may need to temporarily disable your ad blocker or "enhanced tracking protection" so the pop up shows. On firefox click the little shield icon in the url and it has a toggle to turn "enhanced tracking protection" off, I had to do that to make it show up. They use "Smile" to handle their rewards and referrals so it probably has to load 3rd party assets to work. You can turn it back on when you are done. Or you can just use a different browser. For a long while "enhanced tracking protection" broke the reviews on yunnansourcing as well.

[Anonymous No.20510917]

>>20510870
I got it to work, thank you kindly anon.

[Anonymous No.20510937]

>>20510917
... Anyone having trouble checking out using paypal? I don't even know what any of the other options are. I didn't have trouble using KTM before. Do you think it's because I'm buying over $100 in tea? Sometimes banks flag transfers like that as fraudulent.

[Anonymous No.20510951]

>>20510937
I have had my bank block big ktm transactions before. Infact it happens a lot when i try to buy a bunch of shit from china. They are pretty trigger happy with fraud prevention these days. Ive had to do transactions while im on the phone with my bank to get them to actually go through.
See if you get a fraud alert text or email or something, if you are lucky you can just reply to the text and then they will let you complete the transaction. Credit card companies can sometimes bee less trigger happy if that help any

[Anonymous No.20510984]

>>20510951
I just tried to check out while on the phone with my bank -- no dice, but no fraud alert or errors on their end. I'll figure something out, thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.20510988]

>>20510672
Nice I hope that green is good. I recall anon's review being pretty positive.
I was drunk when I saw the sale as with all good tea orders, so I jumped straight for the $100 sampler.

[Anonymous No.20510994]

>>20510937
Been awhile since I lasted ordered but I used payapl at the time. It was not a problem for me then and I spent over $100. Your credit card or bank would probably would not flag you own paypal account but sometimes they do get jumpy. They would probably call, text, or email you if they were the ones to block it. What specifically is not working for you? Do you get some sort of error message? I just tested it without logging in and paypal opens when I click it but I did not try to compete a transaction. Are you blocking 3rd party scripts and frames with with Ublock Origin or other browser addon? If you are the paypal option may not open.

[Anonymous No.20511053]

>>20509055
Take out 50g to use. Stick the original bag inside another that you vac and seal. Leave the oxygen absorber inside if there is one. Fridge/freeze that portion until you get to it. Bring it back to room temp before you open it. Works for me.

[Anonymous No.20511078]

>>20511053
Also, this simply won't work long term, but you might be able to alternate two bags this way. Sencha is just too active once oxygen hits it.

[Anonymous No.20511104]

>>20509216
Drinking tea (especially this ceylon) makes me nauseous bros...
Not sure I can keep drinking it.

[Anonymous No.20511176]

>>20511104
Are you drinking it on an empty stomach?

[Anonymous No.20511201]

>>20511104
Indian and Sri Lankan tea tends to be the roughest on the GI system IMO. It was bred for the British who are typically going to drink it with milk, sugar, and eat food with it. Chinese and Japanese teas are generally much easier on the gut. If it bothers you I would avoid drinking tea on an empty stomach.

[Anonymous No.20511208]

>>20511176
>>20511201
Mmm yeah I guess I didn't have much to eat today

[Anonymous No.20511238]

>>20509129
>>20509194
Here are the tasting notes I promised. I’m not the best at this so bear with me. This is a cheap Dancong I think I got off ebay. If my memory serves it was sold as an Magnolia Aroma dancong. Also of note the tea was not made the year that I bough it and now is at least 6 years old. I lost the original bag so I cant give the exact date. I am not sure how aging is expected to affect dancongs. Besides being cheap the age was my other reason for interest in this tea.

The leaves look like a fairly typical dancong, long darkly colored strips, looks moderately roasted. It has a few more stem bits and ugly leaves than a premium dancong but it does not look as rough a maocha either. I am very bad with scents but the dry leaves have a clear fruit nectar and flowers aroma too it. I think I can still smell a hint of the roast as well.

The color of the tea is a dark pale orange with a slight (purple?) tint. Upfront taste is perfumy with hints of peach or lychee juice followed by punchy bitter notes and something like browned toast. As stated before, it has a puckering, “juicy” mouthfeel to it. I say that in the pleasant sense. It the sort of thing that makes you want to take another sip and swish the tea around your mouth to get the full sensation. The tea’s finish is drying and moderately astringent with lingering florals on the back of the throat. Again, it makes you want to drink more to rewet ones mouth.

I used fast flash steeps because this tea will get overly bitter if you steep it too long. It is not the sort of tea I would recommend drinking a lot of on an empty stomach but it does not bother me if I have had a meal in the last couple hours. The later brews seem to have the bitterness creep up and the other flavors fade but I am not really disappointed considering the price I paid (<10¢/g).

[Anonymous No.20511325]

>>20511238
Sounds pretty good considering it's cheap tea from ebay. I guess there is hope for the budget dancong segment.

[Anonymous No.20511351]

>>20511238
damn that sounds pretty good, especially for <.10/g. I might have to give ebay teas a try. thanks for the notes!

[Anonymous No.20511355]

>>20511325
>https://tea-expert.net
Speaking of ebay and cheap dancong tea-expert has a reasonably priced Dancong sampler.
https://tea-expert.net/50065-fhdc-13-yi-tao-cha-yangpin
Seems fair for a sample set but I have no idea how good they are.

[Anonymous No.20511370]

>>20511325
>>20511351
I make no guarantees, It was years ago and I don't remember exactly where I got it. It may not have even been from ebay. I just remember it being from somewhere kind sketchy and not know for its oolongs. It was a blind buy to me.

[Anonymous No.20511381]

Why is tea expensive? Fr fr. Also I am just buying for ice tea season. I heard Moroccan mint is good for iced tea. The shou is just being adventurous. I don't know how good mystery shou from Upton will be, but I'm curious.

[Anonymous No.20511454]

>>20509540
>White- "聶羣號嘎巴 白茶 - Бeлый чaй ГAБA oт бpeндa He Цюнь Хao"
How did it taste? I am considering picking up a cake of it. Did you try any other of the gaba teas from Tea Expert?

[Anonymous No.20511484]

>>20511454
I got samples of a few of the gaba teas with my last order. Fun to try but i wouldn't rush out to buy any of them. I think i got black and one of his batches of oolong. Im not an expert on gaba tea but they had a kind of disjointed taste profile i would usually chalk up to processing flaws. I could taste the gaba processings influence but the base material was whatever.

[Anonymous No.20511515]

>>20511484
Thanks for the input, are you the same anon? I wanted to know why they recommended the gaba white tea in particular.

[Anonymous No.20511533]

>>20511381
>I don't know how good mystery shou from Upton will be, but I'm curious.
I would not put high hopes on it but it could be good or at least interesting. However I would only buy it on the understanding that it is a gamble and that you are doing it for fun. There is known good shou you can have for less.

[Anonymous No.20511540]

>>20511533
Well duh. I just keep seeing it in the catalog and it makes me kek because it looks sad.
Upton is pretty mid overall, but the stupid catalogs are cute I guess.

[Anonymous No.20511550]

The fact the sheng and shou are the same price concerns me as well. But they give it pictured space so it can't be... Awful, r-right?

[Anonymous No.20511560]

>>20511515
No, im not them.
I could see the gaba white being good because it's hard to fuck up white tea, if you wither it too long it just gains more black tea characteristics. Might go good with the gaba flavor profile.

[Anonymous No.20511638]

It's getting hot; let's share some ice tea recipes!
So far I've been brewing 5g in 200ml for 5 minutes (100C if black/pu'er, 80C if green), and then pouring it over 200g ice. This great though, so I'm open to suggestions.

[Anonymous No.20511642]

It's getting hot; let's share some ice tea recipes!
So far I've been brewing 5g in 200ml for 5 minutes (100C if black/pu'er, 80C if green), and then pouring it over 200g ice. This recipe isn't great though, so I'm open to suggestions.

[Anonymous No.20511643]

>>20511540
Just wanted to make sure you knew what you were getting into. Be sure to tell us how it is then. At least its got some age on it so the wet pile taste should have faded.
>>20511550
Imagine how lonely those those poor unloved tea cakes are. Upton has not been able to sell them out despite them being from 2016.

[Anonymous No.20511665]

>>20511642
I really like iced jasmine green, so refreshing. So far I think my fav way to make it is 10g pearls/liter of cold water, leave at room temp for 3-4 hours and then stick it in the fridge or enjoy over ice.
It's also pretty good with some honey and lemon added but I prefer plain.

[Anonymous No.20511765]

>>20511643
>Imagine how lonely those those poor unloved tea cakes are.
Poor tea.
From now on when I see a cake that a vendor describes with something like "forgotten in the back of a warehouse but aged into something good" I'll imagine the teas going through a dark and lonely period in their lives, but ending up strong and beautiful in their maturity, having changed for the better because of the dark times they went through.

[Anonymous No.20511807]

>>20511765
After all that, they end up in the hands of /tea/ and get mixed with coca cola.

[Anonymous No.20511822]

>>20511643
Kek. Based edit.

[Anonymous No.20511827]

>>20511642
Cold brew
Eight to 12 grams of tea per quart or litre (close enough )of water start with eight
Closed container overnight In the fridge 8-12 hours, depends on how quickly the tea infuses
This makes strong cold brew so you can serve it over ice if it's too potent
Works great with green tea, black tea, darjeeling, interesting with roasted oolong

[Anonymous No.20511863]

>>20511642
That works if you want it fast. Only shit deal doing it that way is some teams with high tannins will get cloudy. Doesn't seem to affect flavor, but whatever. I drank some over ice mao xie doing that. It works.
>>20511827
Cold brew feels hit or miss for me. Some tea extracts good flavors, others just don't. Hot will usually work for everything, flavor wise. Like I can go longjing and get that to work cold brew, but it also works hot over ice. So idk.

[Anonymous No.20511884]

>>20511807
Tragic.

[Anonymous No.20511962]

>>20511642
>>20511827
I've tried several times to make cold tea, both with cold brewing overnight and with making tea normally and letting it cool down and then refrigerating it, and it's never worked. It always turns out weak and not particularly good. I've tried with green, black, and raw puerh.

[Anonymous No.20512039]

I really wish I didn't read about mycotoxins in tea. Aged shengs were some of my favorites, but now I feel worried about drinking anything that isn't fresh as hell or has been wet composited rapidly.
Can one build an immunity to these toxins?

[Anonymous No.20512048]

>>20511962
Add more tea.
The biggest limiter of iced tea is cold = less aromas, which likely contributes to your sense of taste.

[Anonymous No.20512125]

>>20512039
>wet composited rapidly.
Wet piled tea has mycotoxins too you know.
>Can one build an immunity to these toxins?
Probably not.
If it is an consolation the dose you get from tea is probably limited by by the small serving size of tea. A typical tea session is less than 10g.

[Anonymous No.20512136]

>>20512125
>pu-erh drinkers are literally just microdosing mycotoxins
I knew yall were unhinged

[Anonymous No.20512153]

>>20512125
Ya shous are bad too, but my understanding is it's theoretically more controlled and once fermented, it's mostly fixed in time. Water content is lower too I believe.

[Anonymous No.20512157]

>>20512039
Main fear is a potential carcinogen. If you want, go read about exposure limits for DON for instance (it's also present in wheat and lots of foods) and articles on puer tea contamination it's all been measured.
Tl;dr yes it's there, no it's not in dangerous quantities for the normal tea drinker. Certainly occasional drinking is no problem at all.
>Can one build an immunity to these toxins
No you can't.

[Anonymous No.20512203]

>drink soda and overdose on sugar
>drink juice and overdose on sugar
>drink non-sweetened tea and poison yourself with mycotoxins
>drink sweetened tea and overdose on sugar
How did the human race survive so long if literally everything kills you.

[Anonymous No.20512228]

>>20512203
the trick is to poop out a kid before the toxins get you

[Anonymous No.20512231]

>>20511962
I do the dilution method and that works for most things I've tried it with.

Basically, brew one part strong, generally for longer than you would normally brew it. Mix that into one part of room temp or cooler water (not ice). Chill that. You can drink it as is or over ice.

[Anonymous No.20512242]

>>20512231
So like double or triple what you'd normally brew, and for longer, and then mix it with water? Shame that making cold tea seems to take so much more leaves. I've had some cold bottled tea that I liked but have yet to be able to recreate it. Hopefully I can get it to work at some point.

[Anonymous No.20512332]

>>20512242
I find it really depends on the tea. I can get away with 8 grams of cheap black tea brewed for 10 minutes to end up with 2 quarts/liters after mixing, but it's really chopped up stuff. I'll usually steep the leaves a second time with half as much water and pour that over ice to drink immediately just to get the most out of them.

Also, I prefer to store it in glass. It might be placebo but I think it just tastes cleaner that way.

[Anonymous No.20512338]

>>20511807
>>20511884
I'll do it again.

[Anonymous No.20512355]

>>20512332
I've been confused about the brew time of tea since supposedly brewing for a long time releases more tannins, making it more bitter, but for instance western brewing tends to go for a couple minutes at least and you're saying to brew for 10 minutes. I've only done gong fu and don't usually brew for over a minute at a time with any regularity.

[Anonymous No.20512414]

>>20512355
It can take some experimentation. 5 minutes might also work but I like the way that specific tea ends up tasting at 10. I'd brew greens for less time but probably still around 2x the normal length. Unless it was something delicate like sencha where I just use more leaf at normal brew times and pour it over ice to drink right away.

The thing with iced tea is you're diluting it so much that the tannins sort of disappear and provide the "bite" when it's cold.

[Anonymous No.20512436]

>>20512355
Less leaf you have vs the amount of water, the longer you can brew. Those bitter flavours dilute out but it does change the profile of the drink (gong fu is frontloading the good shit). Cold temperature mute too so it's extra important to brew hard.

[Anonymous No.20512526]

i forgot the citric acid in my kettle

[Anonymous No.20512536]

>>20512526
you can always do a few cycles of boiling with citric to get rid of buildup. I had one kettle so far gone that flakes of calcium were coming off it and 3 or so cycles of boiling with citric acid crystals got rid of all of it

[Anonymous No.20512537]

>>20512526
I stick a note on mine so nobody accidentally drinks it.

[Anonymous No.20512564]

>>20512039
we eat fermented and fungal products all the time anon. actual mushrooms, sauerkraut, kefir, kombucha, various cheeses, hell, aged steak. don't sweat the (literal) small stuff, you aren't exposed in sufficient amounts for it to matter.

>>20512157
>potential carcinogen
hello from sassafras tea country.

[Anonymous No.20512593]

>>20512564
those are typically monocultures of well studied fungi which don't produce toxins though...

[Anonymous No.20512595]

>>20512564
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6266826/

[Anonymous No.20512609]

>>20512595
listen i see what you're saying and you have good reasons to be mindful of and concerned for what you put in your body. i, however, spent my developmental years in an EPA Superfund Site and will die of some exotic cancer way before the fungus juice can get me. i will enjoy the leaf water without fear

[Anonymous No.20512629]

>>20512564
>don't sweat the (literal) small stuff
>>potential carcinogen
This. Considering that red meat, grilled/charred/smoked meat, alcohol, the air you breathe, the sun, etc. ad nauseum are all potential carcinogens I just really don't think it's worth worrying about. (Especially since sources often disagree with each other on what is or is not carcinogenic.)
Stress is also definitely terrible for your mental and physical health, so you shouldn't worry.
Everything in moderation.
(Well... maybe not tea. I drink a lot of tea.)

[Anonymous No.20512644]

Does anyone have puer lesbian posts/memes?

[Anonymous No.20512714]

>>20512153
>it's theoretically more controlled
Traditional shou is a polymicrobial wild ferment with nothing that strictly prevents mycotoxin producing flora from growing. This is not like an alcoholic or lactic acid fermentation where the desired microorganisms creates conditions that kill off the "bad" ones. In theory you could create as safer shou by using controlled more sanitary conditions and inoculating the pile with desired microbes but I don't think this is widely done. I know there is one Japanese shou style tea that is made with koji mold that claims to do this however. All in all my hunch would be that dry stored aged sheng probably has less mycotoxins than shou but I can't prove it.
>it's mostly fixed in time.
They age shou in the same places they age sheng. Mold can grow on shou too.

There are a few studies in english out their on the topic of mycotoxins in puerh but more are definitely needed. There are too few to draw definitive conclusions. However while the limited data out there suggests reason for concern it is also not so alarming that I think I need to forswear puerh. Personally I just try to avoid drinking the sketchy stuff too often. If you are really want to optimize for health there are probably bigger things in your life you can optimize first.

[Anonymous No.20512744]

>>20512644
It is no joke, the violence is real.

[Anonymous No.20512761]

>>20512039
Google yamabuki nadeshiko and tell me that's the only "ripe" fermented tea you'd ever consider drinking. Chinese just don't have basic grasp of hygiene.

[Anonymous No.20512767]

Sheng makes me feel high and not always in a good way. Maybe it is toxic.

[Anonymous No.20513189]

>>20512039
I personally doubt that Kunming storage is wet enough to allow large quantities of mould growth.

[Anonymous No.20513272]

>>20512714
>In theory you could create as safer shou by using controlled more sanitary conditions and inoculating the pile with desired microbes but I don't think this is widely done
Dayi has done it a few times with their cakes from this series.
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2018-dayi/products/2018-dayi-yi-yuan-su-original-beneficial-factors-cake-357g-puerh-shou-cha-ripe-tea

[Anonymous No.20513276]

>>20512767
>Sheng makes me feel high and not always in a good way. Maybe it is toxic.
That's the cha qi, people pay extra for that

[Anonymous No.20513365]

>>20513189
I saw a comment from yunnansourcing on reddit that it's possible such studies have been funded by traditionalists who prefer dry storage

[Anonymous No.20513392]

>>20512714
I feel like the mouth cancer from drinking scalding hot tea before it's cooled will get me sooner kek

[Anonymous No.20513582]

>>20510988
Yeah the green sounded really good, I'm looking forward to them.
Looks like my package has gone to a city with the same name of my state though unfortunately, hopefully it finds its way to me kek
>so I jumped straight for the $100 sampler
Hell yeah, what's in that one? Doesn't look like they have it anymore.

[Anonymous No.20513659]

>>20513365
Indeed, it's hard to know. I've heard that within China 'Beijing storage' and suchlike things are purchasable and should in theory not be humid enough for significant mould growth, but I've never seen them sold to the West (at least not honestly).

[Anonymous No.20513924]

>>20513582
>what's in that one?
It's an option to choose how much to pay and they pick teas for you, I think it's in the other section. I asked for a mixture of all types so we'll see what I get.

[Anonymous No.20513949]

>>20513924
Ahh very cool, that should be fun

[Anonymous No.20513975]

Guys guys
I was at Goodwill earlier and walking around, and saw this like a gleaming diamond, calling out to me. It was marked $5. Can this make some decent tea???

[Anonymous No.20514000]

>>20513975
It probably boils water, i think their kettles are enameled steel. As long as the enamel is in good shape it should last.

[Anonymous No.20514005]

>>20513975
Looks like it needs a good cleaning, nice find

[Anonymous No.20514136]

>>20513975
i use an electric kettle now but everytime i find an enamel kettle like this i want it.

[Anonymous No.20514289]

>>20513975
congratulations, you can now boil the water instead of microwaving it. enjoy the whistle.

[Anonymous No.20514302]

>>20514289
nah i havent paid my gas bill yet

[Anonymous No.20514392]

I heard you kids like mycotoxins these days. In honor of that I pulled out some of my 1992 fu zhuan today. It is probably more twigs than mold however. Got one branch that was almost two thirds a centimeter in diameter. Good stuff. I also found a bit of plastic thread in it when chipping off today's tea. Old heicha is better than any kinder surprise. You never know what you're going to find.

[Anonymous No.20514425]

>>20514392
oof kek
fu is crazy stuff, pretty sure you could build a house out of those. I about needed a power chisel to try some samples of it
seems like it might actually be safer than other teas as far as mold goes since it's so recognizable, maybe it can fight other molds too

[Anonymous No.20514542]

I've never had pu erh and I'm thinking of buying a Pu er Sheng 2004 357g for CAD$217.

Worth?

https://camellia-sinensis.com/en/pu-er-sheng-2004-changtai/6673

[Anonymous No.20514573]

>>20514542
I would recommend trying some samples of various types before a full cake

[Anonymous No.20514576]

>>20514573
>various types
what am I looking for?

do you just mean various pu ers?

[Anonymous No.20514584]

>>20514542
>Worth?
The cake looks good and is from a known brand but the price is too high for that specific cake even if it has HK storage.

Get it here instead (maybe after trying a sample first):
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2004-changtai/products/2004-changtai-ban-na-yun-wu-yuan-cha-banna-cloudy-foggy-wild-tea-cake-400g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha
You will pay for shipping and the shipping is slower but that cake isso much cheaper here. It pays to shop around because some shops mark things up way too much. Even KTM does not always have the best prices on factory cakes. I would grab some samples of young sheng and some shou while you are at it. They all taste quite different.

I also have a 10% off referral link for KTM if you want to use it. Full disclosure I will get a 10% code too if you use it.
https://i.refs.cc/m7RecNT1?smile_ref=eyJzbWlsZV9zb3VyY2UiOiJzbWlsZV91aSIsInNtaWxlX21lZGl1bSI6IiIsInNtaWxlX2NhbXBhaWduIjoicmVmZXJyYWxfcHJvZ3JhbSIsInNtaWxlX2N1c3RvbWVyX2lkIjoyMjUyMDQ0NDk1fQ%3D%3D

[Anonymous No.20514596]

>>20512536
Luckily I never really let it get so bad that it only takes one boil
>>20512537
No one else here uses my kettle, they all just microwave it because they're brainwashed by the longnose men

[Anonymous No.20514602]

>>20514576
so there's two like overall types raw and ripe puerh (or sheng / shou respectively)
raw is lighter and fruitier, but can be somewhat harsh before some aging
ripe is darker and tends to be a bit more 'dank' maybe, but can also be sweet and fruity. it can also be aged but I don't think that's as popular and doesn't add much to the tea (I haven't tried a ton of aged ripe though so maybe someone else can correct me here)
there's quite a bit of variety within those two categories, and some of it isn't so great for the price. it helps to try a few different samples of cakes from each category to get an idea of what you might like.
that said, that wrapper is really pretty and if the money is no issue it's probably a nice aged raw coming from a reputable seller

[Anonymous No.20514605]

>>20514576
>various types
>what am I looking for?
At the most basic level: aged sheng, young sheng, and shou.
There is a lot more nuance (semiaged teas, storage conditions, terroir, tree age, big factory vs farmer vs boutique productions, oldschool vs modern processing, ect) but you don't need to know them starting out. Also how much experience do you have with tea? Do you own a gaiwan? and are you familiar with gongfu brewing?

[Anonymous No.20514616]

>>20514542
https://white2tea.com/collections/tea-sample-sets/products/basics-puer-tea-sample-set

https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/raw-pu-erh-tea-sampler/products/introduction-to-pu-erh-sampler-set

[Anonymous No.20514621]

>>20514605
>how much experience do you have with tea? Do you own a gaiwan? and are you familiar with gongfu brewing?

I'm new to loose leaf teas. 3 months ago I was drinking from teas made from commercial tea bags. I'm spending quite a bit of money on tea right now. I don't have a gaiwan (had to look it up), I use a metal infuser I put in my cup. I've heard of gongfu but I just use standard tea brewing technique, that's all I've ever known.

[Anonymous No.20514659]

>>20508019
are you still looking for thick teas? if so I could recommend tie guan yin oolong. it's almost buttery, and quite tasty. works best with a super high leaf-water ratio like 6g/100ml or higher even.

[Anonymous No.20514662]

>>20514621
Peurh and oolongs benefit greatly from shorter brewing times and physical space for the leaves to expand. A gaiwan or a small teapot is recommended. AliExpress is a great place to buy teaware without the expense, but I can vouch for the $20 gaiwan on white2tea.

[Anonymous No.20514666]

>>20514621
I highly recommend trying brewing in a gaiwan (even for teas besides puerh). you'll have to get used to a lower volume of tea per infusion, but the quality of the tea brewed in that style is crazy better imo. I just recently got one and was floored by the difference it makes.

[Anonymous No.20514670]

>>20514621
>I don't have a gaiwan (had to look it up)
You don't strictly need one especially starting out but they are convenient for gongfu brewing. They are pretty cheap as well, a usable one can be had for under $10 USD. Paying more is mostly for looks.
>I use a metal infuser I put in my cup.
Is it a little ball strainer or is it one of the big mug ones like picrel? The small ones often don't give the tea enough room to expand.
> I've heard of gongfu but I just use standard tea brewing technique, that's all I've ever known.
If you are looking to get into Chinese teas then I would recommend trying it out. You get a lot more control over the teas and some types of tea really benefit from that. You could technically gongfu brew with a large basket strainer and a small mug if you want to try it out without buying anything.

[Anonymous No.20514671]

>>20514542
That's hong kong storage. It's gonna taste like wood and smell like a damp basement.
If you want to try some nice aged puer get the colors of Malaysia or the beginners quarter cake sample set from teas we like.
https://teaswelike.com/product/colours-of-malaysia-quarter-cake-set/
https://teaswelike.com/product/introduction-to-puerh-tea-quarter-cake-set-sept-23/
Or get that changtai cake from king tea mall with less aggressive storage on it at 1/4 the price
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2004-changtai/products/2004-changtai-ban-na-yun-wu-yuan-cha-banna-cloudy-foggy-wild-tea-cake-400g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha

[Anonymous No.20514673]

>>20514666
>>20514662
I'll look for one on aliexpress.

[Anonymous No.20514680]

>>20514670
>it a little ball strainer or is it one of the big mug ones like picrel? T
just like picrel, it fits in a cup

[Anonymous No.20514696]

>>20514659
>>20508019
Also try Jinxuan, aka "milk oolong". Beware that a lot of "milk oolong" is low quality tea with flavor added. I like this one from BTT.
https://beautifultaiwantea.com/collections/oolong-teas/products/golden-lily-high-mountain-oolong-tea-taiwan

[Anonymous No.20514724]

>>20514584
thanks for the site btw the prices are far better than on the one I currently use, I'll switch to it even if its not Canadian and takes longer to ship.

[Anonymous No.20514796]

>>20514724
Another shop you may want to check out for Chinese tea is yunnan sourcing. They also don't always have the best prices on every tea but they have a great selection and are beginner friendly.
https://yunnansourcing.com/
https://yunnansourcing.us/
The .us site is the same business but it ships from a US warehouse and has smaller selection. I not sure it it will actually save you on shipping in up Canada.

If you want to shop around or just look there are bunch of links in the OP.
https://rentry.org/teageneral..

[Anonymous No.20514869]

Mycotoxins are just another name for ancient Chinese mystic power. It's the ignorant gweilo trying to deprive you of enlightenment.

[Anonymous No.20514884]

>>20514671
>>20514616
ty for the sites, some good prices

[Anonymous No.20514948]

>>20514869
I think the mycotoxins have reached your brain kek

[Anonymous No.20515049]

My tea knife has arrived. It smells of smoked deli meats.

[Anonymous No.20515077]

LanCang Jing Mai Gu Cha tuo from KTM
Soft and mellow sweetness, with a certain kind of complexity that's hard for me to describe.. Certainly not bland at all which I've had from aged jingmai tea before, the flavour is "complete". I think you get just a hint of what shu is trying to mimic from teas like this.
Anyway, for 12c/gram I am enjoying this tea. From me this is recommended for improving tea experience.

[Anonymous No.20515143]

>>20514696
Thank you, I've always wanted to try a milk oolong! I don't suppose you know of any on KTM? Sorry for the trouble, and thank you!

[Anonymous No.20515195]

>>20515143
KTM is trolling me where's my 1 result

[Anonymous No.20515205]

>>20515143
Pretty sure they don't stock a jin xuan. KTM generally is not the best place for regular oolongs.

[Anonymous No.20515225]

>>20515205
that's okay, i'll make a special trip to the link from anon. appreciate it!

[Anonymous No.20515282]

>>20515205
Honestly I didn't remember they sold Taiwanese oolongs at all.
>>20515205
>KTM generally is not the best place for regular oolongs.
Agreed, but they do have a decent selection of yancha if you are ordering from them anyways.

[Anonymous No.20515293]

>>20515077
Nice glad you enjoy it. I thought that was a pretty interesting tea when i tried it. Definitely feels aged and mellow without being bland as you said
>>20515282
I wish ktm was more into tieguyan yin, he seems like he could actually source some roasted old school ones without charging 30¢ a gram.
He had some aged roasted ones but that doesn't appeal to me as much as a recent production.

[Anonymous No.20515309]

>>20515293
>aged roasted ones
I've been wondering about this, is there really any sense in aging an oolong? If I'm understanding correctly it seems like the baking processes used generally denature any enzymes that could be at play in something like a raw pu-erh.

>>20515077
>>20515293
>LanCang Jing Mai Gu Cha tuo from KTM
Would you say the description on KTM is accurate about the orchid scent? Sounds very pleasant.
Comfy looking setup btw >>20515077

[Anonymous No.20515310]

Where is a good place to get dongfang meiren? I love the one I got from FL and want to try more tea like this.

[Anonymous No.20515349]

>>20515293
I kinda got the impression he isn't that interested in the tgy and just stocks them for the customers.
Teahome has a few aged ones, and one they advertise with old school processing.

>>20515309
>the orchid scent
Unfortunately I don't know what an orchid smells like. I would say it isn't a particularly fragrant tea, it doesn't have that room-filling vibe you get from some. But the wet leaf has some nice sweet smell and clean storage.

[Anonymous No.20515379]

>>20511053
When opening a vacuum pack and taking out half, should I do that after bringing it to room temperature (which adds another low/high temperature cycle) or quickly at fridge temperature (condensation)?
Also, I've never had or used a vacuum sealer, what's the best price/performance bracket for those? Cost of vacuum sealable bags? I've had a half of a tea's original vacuum pack heat sealed at a shop once (not vacuum), how about that?
So far what I've done is folding the excess of the package to minimize air pocket and tape it shut. Though I feel it's not the same as an unopened pack. Wondering if a vacuum sealer makes that big difference. Even just refrigerating unopened packs doesn't feel the same compared to unrefrigerated, though I haven't direct AB taste tested it.

[Anonymous No.20515387]

>>20515309
>is there really any sense in aging an oolong?
In my (admittedly limited) experience with maybe five or six of them, aged oolongs start to taste a bit like old books and dry wood, and they have a unique and prominent kind of raisin or fig like sweetness.
They definitely taste different than unaged oolongs. Some of them are reroasted several times throughout the years they're aged.
https://yunnansourcing.com/products/13-years-aged-da-hong-pao-rock-oolong-tea?variant=34973224902
I think this one is pretty good, but like I've said I've only had a few, maybe someone with more experience with them can chime in.

[Anonymous No.20515399]

>>20512231
People talk about cold brewing or hot brewing and cooling it down afterwards, but how about something in the middle of those? like 30-40C water and 5-30 minutes or something..

[Anonymous No.20515400]

>>20515309
>is there really any sense in aging an oolong?
Aged roasted oolongs can be comfy but they don't change anywhere near as much as say young to old sheng. I have had some aged roasted TGY that is quite good. You normally age oolong dry and sealed, possibly reroasting it every so often. I think for some teas after they rest a bit the roast flavor fades into the background and lets the other notes stick out more. If you let it get old enough you may even pick up some aged tea flavor. I really want to get a sealed tin of 30+ year old yancha to see what it is like but it would probably cost a lot.
>If I'm understanding correctly it seems like the baking processes used generally denature any enzymes
While the enzymes that turn tea into black tea are denatured chemical processes still occur. Slow oxidation will continue to occur. Various compound in the tea will slowly continue to react and break down. It is not as fast a process but it should slowly change with age.

[Anonymous No.20515415]

>>20515399
That sounds like sun tea, where I shove a bunch of leaves in a big jar and leave it on the porch in the sun for a day or two to brew, then put it in the fridge to cool for serving. It doesn't reach boiling temps (unless you live in the desert or something,) but the sun does raise the temperature a considerable amount. It can be a refreshing, pleasant drink, but you need a lot of leaves, so I recommend getting something cheap in bulk. This is fine because sun tea is usually used as like... cold alternative to coffee, to offer when you have guests. That said, whenever my xian qing gan (tea in a tangerine) (I want to call it a teangerine) comes in I'm gonna drop it in the pitcher and see if it turns into something fun. Experimentation is the spice of life~

[Anonymous No.20515417]

>>20515415
xiao qing gan, I can't type and am a fool.

[Anonymous No.20515431]

is puerhguy.com legit?
Any experiences using that vendor?

[Anonymous No.20515441]

>>20515431
he seems to have a bad reputation on reddit, but I can't speak from experience

[Anonymous No.20515442]

>>20515415
>>20515417
I wish it were easier to find other teas stuffed in citrus besides shou. Maybe next new years we all need to make lemon tea pigs.

[Anonymous No.20515451]

>>20515441
Yeah redditors are calling him scam. I was interested in his 2015 purple Dayi but I guess that's a scam price

[Anonymous No.20515467]

>>20515442
These looked interesting, I'll probably try some next time I order from YS.
https://yunnansourcing.com/products/zheng-shan-xiao-zhong-black-tea-cured-in-king-orange

[Anonymous No.20515478]

>>20515451
That Paolo guy is a bit of a shithead and changes his name a lot. Not particularly trustworthy behaviour any way you cut it.

[Anonymous No.20515564]

>>20515431
They have positive reviews on etsy so they are probably legit (in that they ship tea to you) however there is not a lot of talk out there on this site.
https://www.etsy.com/shop/PuerhGuy

it may be related to Paolo "Panda" other shops: https://puerh.uk/ https://enlightenmenttea.org/ and https://ChenYuanHao.shop (only the western shop not the brand) If he is not the owner then they may know each other considering the sites share a similar theme, products , are both in the UK, and Paolo has opened multiple shops before.
He is unpopular on reddit for reasons that are not entirely clear to me. He has been accused to overcharging on obscure Taiwanese boutique puerh, simultaneously undercutting Teaswelike on cheaper well known Taiwanese stored puerh (e.g. LFPT), being too into into the woo woo side of tea (probably guilty), and possibly trying to make moves on some girl at a zen retreat or something. As far as I know he does actually ship and sell what he says he does so he is not a scammer in that regard. People don't really seem to complain about the quality of his tea they just hate him.

[Anonymous No.20515596]

>>20515564
I think the main reason people don't like him personally is (what appears to be) his insane rants and samefagging, generally shitting places up.

[Anonymous No.20515632]

>>20515596
>Looking forward to sharing tea treasures with you!

More seriously MattCha (one of the old school western puerh heads) finds his tea ok so Paolo probably is not too bad so long as you double check the prices before you drop big cash.
https://mattchasblog.blogspot.com/search?q=Puerh.uk

[Anonymous No.20515635]

>>20515564
ok wtf, why do people in tea culture look like this. I did not want to say this cause i drink tea too, but if you youtube tea reviews and stuff, this is what you get.

[Anonymous No.20515637]

>>20515564
Hmm I see. I don't care if the guy is an asshole tbհ as long as the products he sells are what he claims they are. I was looking to buy LFPT and the bamboo tong version and puerhguy has them for pretty cheap

[Anonymous No.20515644]

>>20515632
>so Paolo probably is not too bad
meant to say
so Paolo's shop probably is not too bad
A subtle but meaningful difference

[Anonymous No.20515671]

>>20515637
>puerhguy
Its still not not 100% clear they a the same as puerh.uk. I haven't seen any proof that they are. While googling I found a cut off post from Facebook that looks like Paolo is denying it but I can't find it when I click on the link.
>I was looking to buy LFPT and the bamboo tong version and puerhguy has them for pretty cheap
They have been on my radar for those teas as well. Just be sure to use paypal or similar so you can get your money back in case things don't work out. I have the bamboo tong from LP but have not tried the paper tong one yet.

[Anonymous No.20515733]

>>20515635
>ok wtf, why do people in tea culture look like this.
At least in the west the individuals that are both really into to tea and are outgoing enough to maintain a strong public presence tend to be some flavor of hipster or new age hippie. You also sometimes get normie females who are into "tea time" and the foodies who try tea to seem cultured. If anything /tea/ is kinda idiosyncratic compared to the greater tea community. This is one of my favorite little corners of the internet. I really enjoy my fellow anons here.

[Anonymous No.20515764]

>>20515379
After room temp. It adds another cycle, sure, but I've never really noticed much impact when using it up. It's better than letting it get stale.

You don't necessarily need a vacuum sealer, but it's my favorite way to store dry goods in general. I have sealed mason jars full of stuff besides sencha and it's probably about as fresh as you can keep it without also adding oxygen absorbers.

>Wondering if a vacuum sealer makes that big difference.
You're getting rid of a lot (though not all) of the oxygen it can react with, so it definitely delays things. There's a wide range of how much they cost because it goes from manual or handheld stuff all the way to commercial units. FoodSaver types can be found for fairly cheap and the bag material is sold in bulk rolls. But yes, even just sucking/squeezing the air out and sealing as best you can will help.

>Even just refrigerating unopened packs doesn't feel the same compared to unrefrigerated, though I haven't direct AB taste tested it.
Pretty much the whole idea of shincha, but there's really no choice unless you only drink it a few months of the year.

[Anonymous No.20515790]

>>20515399
Sun tea like the other anon mentioned. I've never liked the idea though because that's a bacterial growth experiment. Even modern guides for it basically recommend hot-steeping the material beforehand and using a sanitized container.

I'm sure lots of people drink it just fine, but there's a good chance tea is associated with health in the first place because it involves boiling your water.

[Anonymous No.20515831]

>>20515635
>>20515733

[Anonymous No.20515870]

>>20515733
>tend to be some flavor of hipster or new age hippie.
Okay that makes sense. I did not want to say anything but I guess you know what I'm talking about. And honestly, normies probably aren't as into tea as /tea/ and most people probably just drink tea bags. Doesn't most of England just drink tea bags and they are supposed to have a big tea culture lol.

[Anonymous No.20515875]

>>20515733
If steeped tea at Tim Hortons is not popular, then tea will never be a thing or as popular as coffee in the west. Coffee does have the huge caffeine kick that is more addictive.

[Anonymous No.20515953]

>>20515870
>Doesn't most of England just drink tea bags and they are supposed to have a big tea culture lol.
British afternoon tea culture seems to me that it is not really about the tea so much as the things surrounding it. Much the same way most people who drink beer with the bros are not necessarily that concerned with drinking the best beer. It is a social institution as much as anything. Even in Asia tea snobs are the minority.

>>20515875
Fast food tea probably would not be great even it it were popular. Just look at how popular boba and bottled tea are over there. Even when traditional is invoked it tends to be a quick tea with food affair before heading to work or as meetup place. Still they do have a higher minimum tea standard and a lot more high brow tea shops than in the west. I wish I had someplace good local to go to.

[Anonymous No.20515961]

>>20515953
>Fast food tea probably would not be great even it it were popular.
Thing is, the Tim Hortons Steeped Tea blend isnt bad. It seems better than bagged Tetley and Red Rose.

[Anonymous No.20515967]

>>20515953
>boba
You can barely taste the tea in those drinks. I have not drank one in a while but I can assume newer boba tea shops care more about tea, since I have seen shops offering pu-erh milk tea. and oolong milk tea.

[Anonymous No.20515968]

>>20515953
>Still they do have a higher minimum tea standard and a lot more high brow tea shops than in the west. I wish I had someplace good local to go to.
Why? and purchase for higher markup? Buying online is fine.

[Anonymous No.20515970]

>>20515953
>bottled tea
Those are not that good but the Kirin Japanese Milk Tea is decent.

[Anonymous No.20515975]

>>20515970

[Anonymous No.20515977]

>>20515831
Just as a funny contrast here is a picture from one of the biggest Russian tea shops.

[Anonymous No.20516001]

>>20515961
>>20515967
>>20515970
>>20515975
Perhaps I should have phrased my self more clearly. I was less trying to denigrate other tea beverages (some can be quite tasty) and more trying to say that even if tea broadly speaking were more popular it would guarantee good availability of "traditional" tea. You don't go to a boba shop to get good yancha.

>>20515968
>Why? and purchase for higher markup? Buying online is fine.
Some of the paces in Asia have reasonable rates or are the source of their own teas. It would also be a fun way to sample new teas.

[Anonymous No.20516010]

>>20515977
Based. A Reddit meetup is still preferable to a bunch of aging hippies making Le Tea Face and pretending to be Psionically Cooming for a staged social media pic.

[Anonymous No.20516054]

Yerba time. I resisted it but the meme straw turns out to be quite nice.

[Anonymous No.20516063]

Isn't it kind of irrational to continue this boring general after Arizona finally solved the tea problem, once and for all?

[Anonymous No.20516130]

>>20516063
I know this is bait but god that must taste foul. Not even in an elitist "Arizona isn't real tea" way, it's fine if I'm out and I want something cold on a hot day. Just in the sense that the thought of mass produced leafwater fermented into a low-alcohol beer-adjacent beverage does not sound particularly pleasant to drink. (Furthermore, if you need every beverage to be alcohol-based in order to enjoy them, that is, in itself, a personal problem you may want to address.)

[Anonymous No.20516174]

>>20516063
>>20516130
I tried this a week or two ago, and as a very strong greenteafag lover and an ex Arizona lover I very much so wanted this to be good, but it just wasn't whatsoever. The main taste was very strong yeast, and beyond that the green tea taste was weak and what was there was leaning towards bitter.

[Anonymous No.20516301]

>>20515671
>but have not tried the paper tong one yet.
Absolutely something to try if you can. Hard to describe but it had this wild bitterness that's nothing like what ive tried before. It's not a strong bitterness, its in the background, but i found it pretty interesting.

[Anonymous No.20516315]

>>20515733
i also look exactly like this i guess its just the sort of neuhippie style that most people who are autistic enough to have this as a hobby will end up being exposed to

[Anonymous No.20516331]

just looking at the puer.uk website im tempted to give the guy a shot.
But that fact that /tea/'s first discussions about the guys shop where when that german guy showed up and started spamming about pesticides and pants shitting put a bad taste in my mouth.
I don't think that was actually the site owner but damn it seems like his fanboys are just as abrasive as he is.
Looking at puerhguy.com i don't think they are the same guy, there is some inventory overlapbut things also go in somewhat different directions. Puerhguy doesn't have the same ESL quirks in written text that puerh.uk has. But i dunno maybe im wrong they are both in England and with a particular taste in old teas.

[Anonymous No.20516344]

>>20516331
>same ESL quirks in written text
this isn't a very useful metric, especially in the age of easily accessible text generation AI

[Anonymous No.20516354]

>>20516344
Lol i was going to compare inventories on a few snapshots on the wayback machine but of course puerh.co.uk has requested that archive.org not store old snapshots of their website.

[Anonymous No.20516355]

>>20516354
that's a bit sketchy

[Anonymous No.20516402]

>>20516355
Seems very in character for that guy

[Anonymous No.20516416]

Gyokuro is the best Japanese green tea.
What's the best Chinese green tea?

[Anonymous No.20516477]

>>20515635
Drinking tea is cool but honestly tea people are weird.
It's usually some hippie/hipster/social studies "thing" that I've trouble calling well adjusted human being.
This is why I don't go to any local tastings, the fucking hippies and their Chakras are ruining perfectly fine hobby.

[Anonymous No.20516520]

>>20509216
This may be a dumb question, but when can I expect 2024 tea to be generally available?
I'm in the UK and ordered a large bag of green tea from what-cha last year in early May, but it ran out a few months ago and they don't seem to have anything (at a similar price) in stock at the moment. The other two sites in the sticky for my region don't have much of anything either.
A few more weeks I hope? Or have there been crop failures in the east too.. a lot of our farms were ruined with flooding earlier this spring.

[Anonymous No.20516521]

>>20516331
Yeah at first glance the inventory looks similar but almost all the cakes are different.

[Anonymous No.20516524]

>>20516520
soon™

[Anonymous No.20516598]

Any word on new cakes from Farmerleaf?

[Anonymous No.20516605]

>>20516520
You can buy 2024 green tea already. Chinese has been available for a while and Japanese have been coming in the last few weeks

[Anonymous No.20516622]

>>20516598
About a week ago he said he'd release them in about a week. So probably very soon if nothing changed.

[Anonymous No.20516703]

>>20516598
soon™

[Anonymous No.20516731]

>>20511550
It's ok. Pretty mild. 21.25 for 100g for it is probably too much though.
I kek at their brewing instructions though. Western style 6 to 7 minutes at 212f sounds extreme. Might try it for memes.

[Anonymous No.20516736]

>>20516731
Ok I take it back. Honestly the price is fair for the most part and it ships ground fast if you live in or near Massachusetts.

[Anonymous No.20517198]

Is XG LFPT a meme?

[Anonymous No.20517286]

>>20517198
I've never tried it, but I can't imagine it's worth some of the prices it goes for nowadays

[Anonymous No.20517288]

>>20517198
Try it and find out
I posted this about it earlier
>>20516301

[Anonymous No.20517292]

>>20516731
Surprising it's not some fishy dogshit. At least you got some decent shu then.
At 2g:6oz water, 7 mins should be fine. I probably wouldnt even bother straining it out.

[Anonymous No.20517301]

>>20517198
>XG LFPT
>google it
>first link is r/puer
>r/puer doesn't look nearly as bad as r/tea
ok I kneel reddit.

[Anonymous No.20517309]

>>20517286
You can still get it for $112 + shipping
I wouldn't pay $150 for it i don't think but 112 is still reasonable considering how expensive all the other puer is these days.
https://www.puerhguy.com/shop/xiaguan/2013-xiaguan-love-forever-paper-tong-lfpt/
It's still a xiaguan cake at heart. If you like classic xiaguan you will probably like it. If you like modern clean boutique productions Then you will find it a bit rough around the edges.
>>20517301
>r/puer doesn't look nearly as bad as r/tea
That's a really low bar

[Anonymous No.20517310]

>>20517309
>>r/puer doesn't look nearly as bad as r/tea
>That's a really low bar
I agree. r/tea is really bad. like, literal pu'er lesbians bad.

[Anonymous No.20517313]

>>20517301
It has some people with strong opinions that love to argue, which for me generally makes it unfun to read.

[Anonymous No.20517315]

>>20517310
and I should add, pu'er lesbians that don't drink pu'er. ok more like witchy dumb sluts.

[Anonymous No.20517336]

>>20517313
ya. I imagine. shame.
/ck/tea/ still wins I guess.

[Anonymous No.20517360]

>>20517309
Fuck I really want to pull the trigger on Puerghguy but my monkey brain is screaming redflag

>almost zero track record on the web.
>only reddit posts are asking if puerhguy is a scam and or related to Paolo
>0 mentions on major tea forums
>0 mentions on tea discord servers
>pricing is just low enough to be a great deal (especially those BYH cakes) but could be a scam

[sneed No.20517368]

>>20509216
all fields

[Anonymous No.20517382]

>>20517360
Just pay with a credit card and chargeback if it's sketchy. That's what credit cards are for

[Anonymous No.20517386]

>>20517198
>Is XG LFPT a meme?
XG LFPT had a reputation of being a good mid-priced aged cake. it was pressed with aged maocha and rumored to contain some lao ban zhang. The cake used to be sub $100 but its popularity has led to price increases. I want to try some.
>>20517301
>>r/puer doesn't look nearly as bad as r/tea
r/puer has a better ratio of enthusiasts to casuals likely because it is a more niche topic. Too many stereotypical redditors and discord users though. I'm not sure why the enthusiasts on r/tea don't just vacate it and make r/teaenthusiasts or something. Most the casuals would not follow. The probably don't want to lose the upvotes and karma from all the casual lurkers.

[Anonymous No.20517407]

>>20517386
That would be nice too because I honestly prefer regular tea over pu'er, not that I don't have a collection of shengs and shous or anything. It's just a variety thing, but I honestly just prefer a good green cha.

[Anonymous No.20517409]

>>20517360
Some guy called Paolo likes PuerhGuy...
The faces looks different to me though.

[Anonymous No.20517420]

So I got some Moroccan green mint tea. Mint flavor is strong as hell. Only drinkable over ice, which is what I think it was intended for. Natural minty sweetness with the more bitter gunpowder is a nice blend I suppose.

Any other good classic iced tea blends or flavors to try? I found most greenish oolongs do well too.

[Anonymous No.20517422]

>>20517382
Yeah I thought it but credit card charge backs are hassle though. I just bought LFPT from LP so if I like this enough I might buy from puerhguy and compare the two.

[Anonymous No.20517449]

Speaking of obscure vendors has anyone ordered from mrmopar aka mrmopu aka u/mrmopar340six? He is an old puerh head with a long internet presence in the us that buys tongs of stuff and then splits them to sell. Supposedly he sells good stuff but he only lists it if you email him. Been meaning to try him out sometime.

[Anonymous No.20517466]

>>20517409
I dunno how far we can take this

[Anonymous No.20517469]

>>20517449
Haven't even heard of him but immediately implicitly trust him and would order $500 dollars worth of tea from him at a time.

[Anonymous No.20517472]

>>20509216
are any of the green teas, oolongs, or black teas on awazon any good? wanted to pick up some cheap dianhong - or another black tea. any thoughts on this order? never had aged raw before other than smokey tuochas. also wanted to try more white

[Anonymous No.20517473]

>>20517466
Here is a higher quality photo if you want to go full schizo.

[Anonymous No.20517484]

>>20517469
He has been around from the Steepster/TeaChat blogger days of the western tea community so he has had a lot of time to pick up a bad reputation he were really trouble.

[Anonymous No.20517495]

The biggest reason i don't think the puerhguy site is palo is that puerhguy is selling several contemporary cakes from bitterleaf and tea urchin.
Looking at palos rant about how modern tea is all garbage "pulong" I don't think he would even buy from white people boutique vendors.
See rant here
https://puerh.uk/product/the-unbearable-lightness-of-modern-puerh/
>Modern puerh sucks, it’s either way too astringent (too rough) or without much flavour and depth (too light).

[Anonymous No.20517502]

>>20517484
Im not even being sarcastic

[Anonymous No.20517504]

>>20517449
He's a legend with an approach to selling tea I admire. An enthusiast's enthusiast. I wouldn't call him a vendor though. More like a cool puerh uncle who likes to hook up noobs online. If you're going to contact him, be polite.

[Anonymous No.20517512]

>>20517472
I bought https://www.amazon.com/CHAGANJU-Japanese-Certified-Organic-Uji-Kyoto/dp/B01E4C982U
Before.
It's sencha. That's about the extent of my review. I don't think you can go wrong with it if you like sencha.

[Anonymous No.20517529]

>>20517512
Awazon not Amazon
>>20517472
>Thoughts on this order
Go for it, ive had other teas from the factory that made that 2006 brick and it was fine.
As far as black teas we haven't had many posters here try their loose leaf, it's cheap enough that you might as well get some.
The dayi ripe is a solid easy ripe

[Anonymous No.20517537]

>>20517529
I can't read. Sorry

[Anonymous No.20517554]

>>20517472
Anon tried one of the black teas a while ago and liked it.
They're probably at least drinkable, that's generally the case with awazon.

[Anonymous No.20517570]

I want to drink fancy tea but my water is extremely hard.

[Anonymous No.20517573]

>>20517537

[Anonymous No.20517578]

>>20517495
exif is stripped on puerh.uk but left alone on puerhguy

[Anonymous No.20517584]

>>20517570
Install a 3 stage undersink filter with side faucet.
Get a water softener that uses salt made for RVs and put it inline before the water filter.

[Anonymous No.20517596]

>eot is out of my morning red
Anyone else with a cheap red that tastes like expensive red tea? I'm nearing the bottom of a half kilo I swear I just opened. I'm also running low on ripe so anywhere I can make a big order of that gud shite would be appreciated. It may be EoT, that earth hits and I want a few dozen packets of heavy roast wuyi.

[Anonymous No.20517603]

>>20517584
I forgot to mention I'm poor.

[Anonymous No.20517606]

>>20517596
Ive only had the fall productions but those have been nice considering how cheap they are. Just don't blind buy a kilo and then yell at me.
https://www.farmer-leaf.com/collections/yunnan-black-tea/products/spring-2024-yingpan-shan-black

[Anonymous No.20517609]

>>20517596
Why is this site so goddamn expensive? Like every time I shop on this shit I spend 500 bucks and I don't know why.

[Anonymous No.20517613]

>>20517603
just get a bunch of bottled water
some grocery stores have a thingy for filling big jugs

[Anonymous No.20517617]

>>20517609
Fair warning that strong roast is a fucking strong roast. Basically seconds from disaster tier. If you are into that kind of thing you should enjoy it but i found it a little overwhelming and i appreciate a solid med-hi roast

[Anonymous No.20517625]

>>20517606
B
>basic yunan black
>8¢/g
I can deal with that.

>>20517617
They gave it as a sample to tempt me, I hit that shit hard and liked it, I may have been a little drunk but my coffee loving friend didn't blink either and bitched it still tasted like tea. Maybe she thought I was being tsundere and trying to impress her with free samples in my price range. We liked it, I liked it more.

[Anonymous No.20517633]

>>20517603
Brita filter softens water a bit.

[Anonymous No.20517636]

>>20517603
Just buy water from water shop.

[Anonymous No.20517639]

>>20517617
Also, I drink 20 year old liubao. Buying the whole kilo of four gold coins when I haven't even opened the 200g sample yet wouldn't phase me at this point. I still have a cake of modern witch I haven't fucked with yet.

[Anonymous No.20517686]

>>20517639
Sounds like you know what you are getting into. I just figured it was worth mentioning because some people might not be quite prepared for how strong strong roast is.
That's certified old man tea.

[Anonymous No.20517773]

Here's a reminder to try the unopened teas you already have before starting a new cart.

[Anonymous No.20517781]

>>20517773
You're not my mom.

[Anonymous No.20517807]

>>20517781
Why not sample the unopened teas you have first before adding more to your cart?

[Anonymous No.20517893]

>>20517639
what aer zou reaidng

[Anonymous No.20517920]

>>20517893
You're not my mom.

[Anonymous No.20517941]

Buy more tea now. Prices will only go up. You don't want to miss out right?

[Anonymous No.20517961]

>>20517941
God i wish i spent about $4,000 more on king tea mall back when it was kingteamall.net and everything was 1/4 the price it is now.

[Anonymous No.20517984]

I want to grow my own tea. Which mint leaf would you recommend i grow for mint tea

[Anonymous No.20517986]

>>20517920
plesse just tell me i just want to know

[Anonymous No.20517988]

Place your bets on the next powercreep
Personally, I'm thinking a dancer that can refresh another dancer.

[Anonymous No.20517998]

>>20509216
hyougemono GAWDS

[Anonymous No.20518050]

>>20517988
u wat

[Anonymous No.20518077]

>>20517941
Nice try. My wage will go up so it cancels out... right

[Anonymous No.20518079]

>>20517941
I am definitely collecting a good bit.
>>20517961
No time like the present, anon. Prices will probably continue upwards and the USD will continue to be inflated away. I'm looking at spending about that much this year.
>>20517984
I know nothing about its cultivation, but spearmint is just king.

[Anonymous No.20518088]

>>20517984
Whatever you do don't plant mint exposed in your garden, it goes mental.

[Anonymous No.20518096]

>>20517984
Lemon balm is the best mint
>>20518079
>I know nothing about its cultivation
Mint is pretty vigorous and spreads with long horizontal roots, if you plant it in a bed it will take the entire thing over in a few years.

[Anonymous No.20518223]

I've ordered another couple of sheng puerh cakes and another shou cake. I previously had 2 shou and 2 sheng and stored the two shou together and the two sheng together in the same mylar bags (I still have the two sheng). Should I separate them into separate mylar bags? The two sheng at least taste fairly similar (just one being stronger) so I don't know how much I should bother. The two I just bought have been aged for longer though so I'll probably keep them in their own bags just to be safe.

I'm not really aging them purposely but I'm not drinking them quickly either.

[Anonymous No.20518266]

thoughts on puerhjunky?

[Anonymous No.20518292]

>>20518223
separate is best, they will eventually start to mix flavors

[Anonymous No.20518494]

Maté bros, which brand do you drink that don't cause stomach pains? Also best tasting maté recs?

>MSJK captcha
Almost got the mesugaki

[Anonymous No.20518564]

>>20518223
I separate based on category. If they are the same style and similar age they can go together but if they smell significantly different I separate them. For example my young sheng, semiaged sheng, dry aged sheng, and wet aged sheng all end up in different bags. I have enough tea I need to use multiple bags anyways. Some people chose to store everything together though so do what you want.

[Anonymous No.20518569]

>>20516598
Last year the main Spring productions were released on the store June 12th.

[Anonymous No.20518585]

>>20517984
this >>20518088 >>20518096

>have small mint patch in family yard
>get dogs
>pave over mint patch since dogs keep pooping there
>years later
>mint starts shooting up between the cracks of the cement
>no maintenance or sun, just whatever water from the rain or seeped over from us watering the bush a few feet away
Stuff's almost unkillable.

[Anonymous No.20518748]

where can I buy white tea cake in europe? Should I just order them directly from china?

[Anonymous No.20518760]

>>20518266
>thoughts on puerhjunky?
Haven't used him but i think he is worth a shot if you dig the kinda tea he stocks. He has been around for a while now. He used to be in Canada but now he ships from the US. He used to not give the official names of the teas in the listings which i didn't love but he does now.
Probably not the cheapest way to buy puer, but with a shop like that you are paying for the curation and sourcing so you aren't blind buying teas on taobao

[Anonymous No.20518762]

>>20518748
yunnan sourcing has a few and offers dhl shipping

[Anonymous No.20518777]

Finally my shincha order is shipping. It's time, brothers.

[Anonymous No.20518778]

>>20509583
t.

[Anonymous No.20518789]

>>20518748
https://www.nannuoshan.org/collections/white-tea
Has a few, also the loose white teas, baimudan, shou mei and gong mei are the kinds of white teas that are pressed into cakes, just loose.
Otherwise i would buy from china

[Anonymous No.20518792]

>>20517941
I have shopping addiction and this is true

[Anonymous No.20518798]

I love drinking my cup full of first infusions at the end of the day. So much flavor and always so complex.

[Anonymous No.20518804]

>>20518748
If you want cheap white tea get some from these guys, it's not fancy but it works. Also the website will crash when you check out, but the order still goes through.
http://www.pu-erhtea.com/TeaDetails.aspx?TeaID=1072
http://www.pu-erhtea.com/TeaDetails.aspx?TeaID=1054
If you want premium white tea try something from yunnan sourcing.
Or get one of these
https://m.grandnesstea.com/2018-Xiaguan-Jinggu-Yue-Guang-Bai-Moonlight-White-Pu-er-Pu-erh-Tea-Cake-Raw-320g-p92359.html

[Anonymous No.20518814]

>>20518804
>>20518789
>>20518762

Thanks, might rty some cheap one first before going to the expensive ones

[Anonymous No.20518826]

>>20518814
i suggest getting samples of the high-quality options first, then looking for cheaper alternatives of similar quality. it helps to know what's possible in terms of flavor. i've come across some pretty bad teas while searching for good cheap ones.

[Anonymous No.20519042]

Crane Gang rise up

[Anonymous No.20519533]

Is there a science as to which teas taste good with sugar and which don't

[Anonymous No.20519546]

>>20519042
god i love the crane

[Anonymous No.20519581]

>>20518748
see the sticky for reputable vendors in the EU, but buying from China is always better unless you're only getting a very small amount (because of shipping costs) or you need it ASAP
farmer leaf has some very good looking cakes and the people behind it are 100% reputable, so that's where I'd look
if you want something cheap otoh I'd buy a few small samples from wherever, like health tea house/fullchea, and try 10-25g of whatever looks interesting to you

[Anonymous No.20519596]

Beautiful storm outside. Enjoying some pitch black Peak Vulture ripe, paired with some black metal for the gloomy atmosphere

[Anonymous No.20519605]

>>20519042
Post your favorite xg cake.
Mine is the 2019 jingmai

[Anonymous No.20519606]

>>20518748
I bought some white teas from theTea.pl recently. The Jingmai one is really nice, though it's not in cake form.
I usually buy from China though. Sometimes the chinks are able to lower or bypass the VAT, so it ends up being cheaper than local stores.

[Anonymous No.20519617]

>>20519596
How is it?

[Anonymous No.20519657]

>>20519617
might have the best body and mouthfeel at this price point. certainly the best in the ripes I've had. extremely thick and slick. flavor-wise it's a simple dark chocolate and wet earth, though it does sometimes have a note similar to vanilla custard, which I enjoy a lot and haven't really gotten from other ripes. today I'm getting some figs in the aroma, which is cool too. tastes less "balanced" and complex to me than Slut and factory ripes, maybe the blend goes really heavy on whatever gives it the body and light on everything else
got a slight bit of wo dui on some brews, but it's not a fish bomb by any means. longevity is what you'd expect from a ripe, nothing special. I recommend pushing it hard for maximum body

overall I'm happy with Peak Vulture. it's a must-try if you really value body in ripes, otherwise it's less enticing but still a nice way to try a pretty distinctive ripe on a budget

[Anonymous No.20519706]

>>20519605
>favorite xg cake
Recent favorite has been the 2020 Xiaguan Dong Guo - Lao Shu Yuan Cha

[Anonymous No.20519729]

>>20519706
I've heard a lot of good about that Xiaguan Dong Guo

[Anonymous No.20519747]

>>20519706
Interesting. I've had the FL dong guo sample and didn't like it at all.

[Anonymous No.20519756]

>>20519605
i sitll don't know what a xiaguan is

[Anonymous No.20519780]

>>20519756
Xiaguan is a large, once state-run pu-erh factory. they're famous for their tuocha, iron cakes and often smoky flavor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUDmMMwa19s

[Anonymous No.20519843]

>>20519780
The fat guy in the wifebeater with a hammer is the best one

[Anonymous No.20519862]

>>20519780
lmao the one with the sweaty guy got me

[Anonymous No.20519866]

>>20519780
>drink right out of the gaiwan
do chinks really? I might try this.

[Anonymous No.20519891]

>>20519866
Yeah, thats how they used to do it
works pretty good, easier if you have something in the 200ml range

[Anonymous No.20519912]

>>20519843
he's literally me....

[Anonymous No.20520019]

>>20518777
Thinking of making a small one from o-cha. Maybe a repeat of the Chiran and the short steamed Saemidori that I haven't tried yet. I really like the fruitiee sweeter flavour that cultivar seems to add

[Anonymous No.20520141]

Man, every time I get ready to buy something from YS they're out of stock on most everything. I guess that's my sign to try other companies , huh?

[Anonymous No.20520185]

>>20520141
Are you trying to buy from the .us site? Since the coof his looseleaf tends to sell out on there and get restocked several times. I guess he is afraid to import too much at once because he is stuck paying duties and cant just send it back to china if it's leftover at the end of the year.
What kinds of teas are you looking to buy?

[Anonymous No.20520188]

>>20519605
'20 HeKai

[Anonymous No.20520189]

>>20520185
Yeah, .us.
I had meant to try some dan cong duck shit and a few others. It's not the biggest deal in the world, it's just funny this is the third time it's happened. I just ordered some tieguanyin from nannuoshan. I could check out some other websites, and since I'm in the US I could look at smaller dudes like Jesse, I just prefer YS.us because they seem quite professional and I've had good luck in the past.
I could probably take this opportunity to buy some of their cakes...

[Anonymous No.20520195]

>>20520188
I have that one as well and prefer the jingmai.
The hekai gets bitter after few brews.

[Anonymous No.20520198]

hot as balls out there.

[Anonymous No.20520209]

>>20520189
Yeah i guess you could email them and ask about restocks or just try some other us vendors. I would say to buy from the .com site but i find the shipping costs a bit annoying. If im going to pay that much for shipping i would rather order from king tea mall.

[Anonymous No.20520224]

Do you use a scale? Or do you eyeball it?

[Anonymous No.20520236]

>>20520224
I always use a scale, i can eyeball it in a pinch but I can't be assed to mentally calculate the volume of tea i need to use depending on its compression level. Even with loose leaf the level of rolling or the shape and size of the dried leaves can still make the teas volume vary by quite a bit

[Anonymous No.20520274]

>>20520224
I use a scale most of the time but for the teas I drink a lot I just eyeball since I've got a good idea of how much to portion out.

[Anonymous No.20520299]

>>20520195
I'm gonna have to try their Jingmai now

[Anonymous No.20520471]

>>20520299
It's $30 on taobao and worth every penny.
I'm about third of the cake in, would buy again.
Now that I have fa zhan he cake as well and not just sample I'm not sure which one I prefer.

[Anonymous No.20520561]

>>20520471
That can't be the official store right? Redditors are calling taobao shopping lottery so I've been avoiding it.
Link to the store if you don't mind.

[Anonymous No.20520579]

>>20519596
what black metal album; try paysage d'hiver

[Anonymous No.20520598]

>>20519657
that sounds pretty tasty, I'll have to sample that one. have you tried the moon waffles yet? that one looks interesting as well. I really like their lumberslut and camphornaught.

[Anonymous No.20520616]

>>20519533
The only sugar you should be adding to your tea is from the snack that you eat with it.

[Anonymous No.20520638]

>>20520598
yeah, I liked moon waffles a lot. sweet and milky. I've only recently started to try some more white teas, I used to think they're not for me

[Anonymous No.20520645]

I'm shocked.
Cheap ass ripe over ice is perfectly fine. Western brew 7 minutes, double up western dose, pout over ice.
Just fucking works.
I'm floored.

[Anonymous No.20520661]

Viet suuuun
This came at a cost to me of about 17c/gram so I'm happy.
If anyone wants to know about one let me know, for now I think I'll sip on some oolong.

[Anonymous No.20520662]

>>20520645
I'm skeptical because I've forgotten about my ripe and tried to drink it after it got cold before and it was vile.

[Anonymous No.20520700]

>>20520561
Don't have the link right now but yes it was legit oficial xiaguan store.
There are plenty of stores that had it for around 200 yuan

[Anonymous No.20520704]

>>20520661
Very curious how the '24 spring pu'ers are, please keep us informed.

[Anonymous No.20520771]

>>20520661
wow awesome, are you the anon who got the 100$ sampler? looks like a great assortment. tell us how the oolong tastes!

I finally got mine today, they wrote my address as
<street>
<state> <city>
and no zip code kek. I guess this is why it went all over the place before it came to me. it was also covered in some kind of brownish substance. tea is safe in mylar though so I'm happy.

[Anonymous No.20520817]

>>20520771
Yeah that's me. I hope you'll share your impressions as well, the Giàng Pằng you have is now out of stock.
>brownish substance
Please understand , is packing sludge keep tea safe.

[Anonymous No.20520874]

>>20520661
Looks like a great haul. Please write up everything and take photos if you're up for it

[Anonymous No.20520883]

>>20520579
I like paysage! It was just the classic burzum album with the skelly chilling out in the forest. Hvid etc.

[Anonymous No.20521471]

>>20521470
>>20521470
>>20521470
new thread