/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.20412650]

How bad for you are these really? I don't drink, smoke or do drugs, but man these things are my vice. I fucking love em first thing in the morning.

[Anonymous No.20412653]

>>20412650
It's just a cup of coffee's worth of caffeine there's nothing else explicitly "unhealthy" in monsters especially sugarless one

[enjoyb0y No.20412655]

>>20412650
You shouldn't have caffeine first thing in the morning, or you get a massive energy dump.

The reason you're tired is you have leftover adenosine in your body, and the caffeine stops it from bonding with your blood and getting removed. So all you're doing is delaying that, and getting even more when the caffeine expires.

Wait 90-120 minutes after waking up to have it, and then all your adenosine is out of your body, so you'll get more of an effect.

Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/HubermanLab/comments/wnvn5w/evidence_behind_waiting_90_minutes_after_waking

[Anonymous No.20412657]

>>20412650
They're bad because they're a giant waste of money. You're better off just finding some caffeine pills, making cold brew, or sweets with caffeine in them and drinking water.
Health wise? There's zero evidence they do anything harmful or positive, it's just a shit load of water mixed in with some non-harmful artificial sweeteners and vitamins you'll piss out in a few hours that do nothing for you, and about a cup of coffee worth of caffeine.
You'd maybe run into trouble if you have heart issues or sensitivity to caffeine, but even that would likely only happen if you drank 6+ of them in a day.

[Anonymous No.20412712]

>>20412650
It's basically just caffeine water and sweetener. Not great not terrible for you. Would wager that coffee is much better for you though.

[Anonymous No.20412727]

>>20412653
Artificial sweeteners are bad for your gut flora. Especially sucralose which comes with diarrhea warnings sometimes. Obviously tons of real sugar isn't good either but it's not completely harmless just because it's zero calories.

[Anonymous No.20412731]

>>20412650
Same. I barely drink (maybe a six pack once a quarter), don't smoke, no drugs, can lift 1/2/3/4 and do a lot of hiking.
A monster or mother in the afternoon really helps me get through the work day. Not because of lack of energy or anything, but because I like the taste and it staves off the boredom.
I don't feel burnt out or tired on the days I
don't have them, and I'm always drinking water even while I'm sipping. In my case, I definitely think I'm better off not drinking them but I think the health impact is minor at most.
>>20412657
For me, it's the taste and the carbonation. You can't really find a similar taste in other drinks

[Anonymous No.20412764]

>>20412650
thinking about buying a case of these off amazon what do they taste like? i can't really tell by looking at them.

[Anonymous No.20412778]

>>20412764
Kind of like artificial pub squash but not as strong lemon. I'm not a huge fan, don't get a case just get a single from the servo.

[Anonymous No.20412840]

>>20412727
I mean I drink these at uni to stay awake in late lectures and I haven't shat up the campus bathrooms yet.

[Anonymous No.20412985]

>>20412655

>memerman
bait

>>20412650
Only one or two a day? Not really something to concern yourself with

[Anonymous No.20412995]

>>20412650
Enjoy your multiple heart attacks and stomach cancers then I guess idiot

[Anonymous No.20412997]

>>20412650
All of them, even the ones with sugar, have sucralose which has been proven to cause damage to your intestines.
Drink coffee or a different brand of energy drinks without sucralose if you must.

[Anonymous No.20413007]

>>20412778
>pub squash
>servo

[Anonymous No.20413645]

The rear of my lower incisors will gradually get tartar build-up, and I'm not sure how common that is or if it's just my teeth, but the dentist usually scrapes off some every visit. However, if I have one Monster Zero Ultra per day for a week (doesn't happen with other flavors or types of sweeteners), those teeth will always have a massive tartar build-up by the end of the week. Does that happen to anyone else?

Not my teeth, but it's kind of like this (just not that severe because I have a metal pick that I use to scrape it off when it starts to accumulate).

[Anonymous No.20413651]

>>20413645
Do you brush your teeth after drinking it? It might be sugar free but bacteria can still feed on it so you should treat it like something sugary and brush after.

[Anonymous No.20413655]

>>20413651
I mean, I brush my teeth in the morning and at night, but I'm not going to break out the Colgate while I'm at work just because I drank a Monster. This doesn't happen with any other soft drink.

[Anonymous No.20413669]

>>20413655
Hmm. I compared the ingredient list of it and a few other sugar free sodas. Monster has a lot of citric acid along with a few other kinds of acid in the ingredient list. Maybe it's weakening your teeth more than other soft drinks and letting tartar build up faster.

[Anonymous No.20413681]

>>20413669
No. Are you listening?

>drink green Monster for a week
>no tartar

>drink white Monster for a week
>tartar

>clean tartar
>drink green Monster for a week
>no tartar

[Anonymous No.20413691]

>>20413681
I meant to say Monster Zero Ultra in particular seems to have more acidity than the others and that could be why.

[Anonymous No.20413763]

>>20413691
>I meant to say
You didn't just mean to say it...you said that. And your explanation made no sense.

[Anonymous No.20413795]

>>20413763
How does it not make sense? Acidic food can damage your teeth and promote tartar buildup. And the specific one you say you have a problem with seems like it might be more acidic than the others.

[Anonymous No.20413806]

>>20413795
Explanations need both evidence and reasoning.

>Acidic food can damage your teeth and promote tartar buildup.
This is nonsense word salad. You don't understand how tartar forms, and you're not even bothering to think through your stupid explanation, even after I clarified exactly what is happening.

[Anonymous No.20413821]

>>20413806
>Acidic foods and drinks, such as citrus fruits and carbonated sodas, can erode tooth enamel, making teeth more vulnerable to damage. Sticky and starchy foods, like potato chips and bread, tend to get trapped between teeth, increasing the risk of plaque buildup and gum disease.
Tartar is plaque that hasn't been removed. I gave you an explanation as to why it could be happening and you just say no. I told you how to possibly prevent it from happening and you say no. Maybe you have tartar on your brain.

[Anonymous No.20413829]

>>20413821
>Tartar is plaque that hasn't been removed.
You are still failing to understand where it comes from.

> I gave you an explanation
You're trying to make me repeat myself, yes?

[Anonymous No.20413863]

>>20413681
>>20413763
>>20413806
>>20413829
not that guy, but you come off as a condescending schizoid when you argue like this

also, I'm far more inclined to say you are experiencing some form of confirmation bias
drinking whatever monster may have nothing to do with tartar buildup but you've decided it does without controlling anything else
additionally, you apparently visit a dentist with some frequency
why not ask them? surely they would have a far more informed opinion on the relation of tartar with drinking highly acidic energy drinks
maybe go search through some medical publications on the relationship of acidic diets with dental hygiene

additionally, simply reading through the wikipedia page for plaque may give you some hints like this excerpt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_plaque
>Oral hygiene is important as dental biofilms may become acidic causing demineralization of the teeth (also known as dental caries) or harden into dental calculus (also known as tartar).
suggesting that bacteria that lead to tartar buildup thrive in acidic environments which you would be massively influencing by sipping on a delicious energy drink

[Anonymous No.20413878]

>>20412650
If you butt chug them it negates any bad effects.

[Anonymous No.20413883]

>>20413863
>additionally, simply reading through the wikipedia page for plaque may give you some hints like this excerpt
Yeah, *I* don't need "hints." The person I'm "talking with" is the one who needs to educate himself.

>suggesting that bacteria that lead to tartar buildup thrive in acidic environments
This is why Wikipedia is not educational. Bacteria don't "thrive in" acidic environments. Bacteria in your mouth create acids, which is what decays your teeth. Tartar, likewise, is a byproduct of bacterial metabolism inside your mouth. It doesn't come from acids. It comes from organisms. Organisms, likewise, do not consume acids. They don't "thrive in" acids. What they thrive in is sugary, nutrient-rich environments, which is why sugar lead to tooth decay, but doesn't cause it directly. Get it yet?

Monster Ultra contains "zero sugar," so how does it stimulate massive tartar formation? Because those artificial sweeteners are literally just sugar by another name, and apparently in a form that oral bacteria can metabolize pretty much immediately. Again, acidity is completely irrelevant. Green Monster is just as, if not more, acidic than white Monster. Sugar content, and apparently type, is what causes this.

I was just asking if it happens to anyone else or not. I was not asking because I didn't understand how it happens. Narcissistic Faggot Child entered the thread >>20413669, and just assumed that anyone was confused about what was happening, and we all were just waiting for his sage guidance.

[Anonymous No.20413912]

>>20413645
I only get tartar between my bottom two front teeth, not sure why. I use a pick to get rid of it once a week

[Anonymous No.20413932]

>>20412650
Drink sparkling water or kombucha instead

[Anonymous No.20413943]

>>20412997
Mine doesn't

[Anonymous No.20413963]

>>20413883
you have very little concept of what you are talking about, and are convinced of your own conclusions without much understanding of pretty much anything that you feel the need to condescend about.
good luck buddy, try to find some humility and empathy because you really just sound like an irredeemable asshole
I will not be reading your inane seething response

[Anonymous No.20413986]

>>20413963
1/10.

[Anonymous No.20413998]

>>20412650
youre killing your kidneys with that

[Anonymous No.20414143]

>kidneys
>intestines
>teeth
That's it. I'm going back to Coca-Cola.

[Anonymous No.20414147]

>>20413883
>and just assumed that anyone was confused about what was happening, and we all were just waiting for his sage guidance.
Maybe I wanted to know why it was happening and I was trying to figure it out for that reason too. I have issues with sucralose, although they're more digestive. And I like to understand why these processed things can cause so many issues, which ends up helping me understand more why natural things can be better for us.

I don't really know if you have an issue with all the Monster drinks that contain sucralose, or just the white one specifically because that's the one you used in an example and you said it doesn't happen with other flavors.

I thought we could just talk and share information and come up with ideas to figure it out. But you became pretty unpleasant to talk to really quickly and just quickly got more and more unpleasant.

[Anonymous No.20414708]

>>20414147
You poor little guy! I'm so sorry you have to go through this traumatic experience of being wrong on the internet. Baby's first butthurt! One day, I'm sure you'll graduate high school and look back on this like it was nothing.

[Anonymous No.20414796]

>>20414708
*farts*

[Anonymous No.20414831]

>>20412650
>is half of your day's calories in sugary chemicals and caffeine bad for you?

[Anonymous No.20414891]

>>20412650
>drink pic related
>no less tired than before, either feel no difference or just more anxious

[Anonymous No.20414927]

>>20414831
Is math related to science?

[Anonymous No.20415463]

>>20414831
Maybe if you're a fucking newborn

[Anonymous No.20415475]

>>20414831
Sugar has rather low calories, it's just easy to consome more of it so it adds up.

[Anonymous No.20415611]

>>20412653
>>20412727
these are also loaded with guarana, ginseng and several other supposed nootropics

[Anonymous No.20415617]

>>20412764
tastes like 4 parts diet Sprite 1 part diet Red Bull 1 part tap water

[Anonymous No.20415629]

>>20412650
currently having the best of drinks, ama

[Anonymous No.20415854]

I'm going back to wine.

[Anonymous No.20416127]

>>20412650
The micros and cafeine overthrow the artificial sweetener so it's not bad per se.
It's good for the soul and good for gains, get a cold one while you're lifting with friends and you'll enjoy it truly

[Anonymous No.20417558]

>>20414831
It's funny seeing people shit on energy drinks by bringing up sugar. I never ever ever see anyone drinking anything but the sugar free, 0 calorie ones for years.

[Anonymous No.20418251]

>>20412650
I drink, smoke, and monster all at the same time. Often. Shit.

[Anonymous No.20418252]

>>20412650
Soda for breakfast ain’t good.