/tea/ Blessed Spring Harvest Edition

[Anonymous No.20346330]

This thread is for discussing teas, tisanes, and other herbal infusions.

info: types of tea, where to get tea, how to brew tea
https://rentry.org/teageneral

previous thread: >>20330755

[Anonymous No.20346452]

>>20343697
>>20343743
>>20344664
>>20344730
Thanks for the suggestions and advice. Lao Man E was definitely on my radar, think I'll pick that up along with various samples.
>they'll have a sale when they add new spring teas, but that's still like a month or two away I think?
Around May/June then? Can anyone confirm when the sale was last year?

[Anonymous No.20346572]

>>20345773
Where do I find the secret info?

[Anonymous No.20346742]

>>20346452
According to my email inbox, last year they did 15% off on last year's cakes before the spring ones came out, in early May, and then an end of summer sale in late August.

[Anonymous No.20346818]

>>20346452
Lao Man E is great if you like punchy, bitter, attention-grabbing raws. very distinctive but not for everyone

[Anonymous No.20346865]

>>20346572
they have a facebook page where they post photos and updates sometimes

[Anonymous No.20346916]

>>20346452
If you have never bought a full cake before the bangwei small trees is a safer buy, or even the naka if you want something bitter that's a little more accessible. Don't wanna tell you not to get the lao man e, it's good tea but its definitely a somewhat intense experience. That cake isn't an example of the most bitter tea that comes out of that village but its still pretty prominent.

[Anonymous No.20347061]

Gonna buy a bunch of bulk herbs from Mountain Rose; are any of their herbal tea house blends worth throwing in?

[Anonymous No.20347086]

>>20347061
I like the honeyroo blend, that's about it though. I wasn't too impressed with some of their other stuff, but I also don't really like most herbal tea so that doesn't say too much.

[Anonymous No.20347111]

>>20347061
As far as herbal teas go...
I really like mixing chamomile and mullien. The mullien adds a nice bitter herby edge to the otherwise smooth and sweet chamomile. Makes for a good combo.

[Anonymous No.20347138]

Been drinking Yunnan Sourcing's 'Purple Beauty' Green Tea today. Great stuff.
Nice complexity and astringency, it's like a lovechild of raw puehr and a strong green. Has a nice cha qi kick too. Surprised it's so cheap.

[Anonymous No.20347234]

>>20346572
Only the cat knows and it wont tell.

[Anonymous No.20347288]

>>20347061
Grab an oz of hibiscus.
Rooibos and honeybush are solid too (i only brew the honeybush for 60-90 seconds for max sweetness.)
Haven't tried their herbal tea blends

[Anonymous No.20347294]

>>20347138
>Purple green tea
Has science gone too far?

[Anonymous No.20347382]

>>20347294
Who knows? She blinded me with science, now we all need to do is smoke the peace pipe and consider this pic related.

[Anonymous No.20347418]

>>20347111
>mullien
Do you mean Verbascum thapsus here? Didn't know it made tea, I'll brew it up next time I see it.

[Anonymous No.20347423]

>>20347138
How do I get such excellent gaiwan patina

[Anonymous No.20347442]

>>20347418
>>20347111
Ayahuasca is in your stars

[Anonymous No.20347452]

>>20347138
It's so cheap because it's cult crap on the level of those Aum Shinrikyo that dropped sarin gas in somrJapanese train stations,

[Anonymous No.20347491]

What cult makes the best tea?
I know that cult that sells good tea but they don't make any

[Anonymous No.20347502]

Schizo anon out in full force today.
>>20347418
Yeah that's it. Grows like crazy around here. It's supposedly good for lung/breathing issues, and has a long history of medicinal use. That aside, it tastes pretty good on it's own, and especially when combo'd with other herbs (chamomile)

[Anonymous No.20347539]

>>20347502
Thank you. Not super common here but I've seen it around.
It's fun to brew up the local plants. This year I want to try making some tea from fireweed, apparently the russians roll and ferment it.

[Anonymous No.20347562]

>>20347452
What now?

[Anonymous No.20347777]

are there any more recommendation for cheap teas off amazon, this TAETEA 7542 Classic Raw was very nice, I want to try something else now while I wait for w2t order, is this

TAETEA Raw PU'ER Tea, Aged Fermented “Fei Leng Cui” Puerh Pu erh Tea Cake Black Chinese Tea for Daily Drink and Gift (357g/12.59oz)
also good?

[Anonymous No.20347873]

>>20347777
Witnessed.

[Anonymous No.20348621]

>>20347423
By using it anon, white porcelain develops a patine quick for me with Puerhs.
>>20347777
Damn son checked.
I get Tao of Teas Jasmin Pearls from amazon.
Honestly I love that tea.

[Anonymous No.20349037]

>>20347777
Unfortunately Amazon is pretty limited when it comes to puer.
Dayi/tae tea set up there own Amazon storefront for direct sales which is why its a good place to get those teas, but as you saw the selection is limited.
If you are in the US you could grab a couple cheap xiaguan tuos from puershop. Puershop is kind of a weird store but xiaguan is a pretty consistent brand, expect some smokey flavor and sweetness, a bit of bite.
https://www.puerhshop.com/new/index.php?route=product/product&path=9_22&product_id=257
Some other cheap stuff that should be nice
https://www.puerhshop.com/new/index.php?route=product/product&path=3_14&product_id=326
https://www.puerhshop.com/new/index.php?route=product/product&path=3_14&product_id=340
https://www.puerhshop.com/new/index.php?route=product/category&path=3_14
https://www.puerhshop.com/new/index.php?route=product/product&path=3_14&product_id=1013

[Anonymous No.20349186]

>>20349037
Whoops that second to last link was supposed to be
https://www.puerhshop.com/new/index.php?route=product/product&path=3_14&product_id=762
Don't go crazy buying a tons of stuff from there or buying multiples of anything without trying them

[Anonymous No.20349187]

Enjoying some eastern beauty oolong today, pretty sweet and tasty oolong. Not a ton of after taste or mouth feel, solid body.

[Anonymous No.20349211]

>>20349187
i literally just made some oolong at the same time as you. im drinking the three spot guanyin from w2t; it tastes like buttered popcorn.

[Anonymous No.20349225]

>>20349211
based fellow oolong enjoyer, I mostly stick with puer and oolongs.
Still haven't ordered from W2T yet, been tempted.
I don't recommend Jesse's teahouse(where this came from) due to the overpriced nature of it, but this tea is solid. Friend gave me a 50g pouch for free(happy I got 2 friends addicted to gongfu and tea so I get random shit from them and I share random shit back).

[Anonymous No.20349354]

>>20349186
>>20349037
thank you very much, ill write these places down and have a look, ill definitely avoid amazon in the future, i just needed a little more in an order of things like a cheap breaking tray and a thing for breaking open cakes that i had in my amazon cart so i could get free shipping

[Anonymous No.20349365]

>>20349225
Oolongs are great, they just feel more expensive then other teas. But even "cheap" oolongs are pretty good so I don't feel the need to spend 40¢/g or more for oolongs, especially if they are green.

[Anonymous No.20349403]

>>20349365
Agreed, most of my favorite oolongs are middle ground price wise actually. Same with shous/shengs, some really high end one really accent specific flavors that may or may not be desirable. Plus I get 1.5x the tea for the same price.
Oolongs in general will be more pricey(besides compared to white teas) but in my opinion as much as I love black teas, oolongs generally are better tasting to me personally and usually have more interesting flavors so I don't mind spending a bit more.

[Anonymous No.20349464]

>>20349403
I really want to get white tea pilled
what are the best value white teas?

[Anonymous No.20349465]

>>20349403
I've bought some very expensive oolongs, small amounts but pushing 2$/g, and while they were great, but I tend to agree with you. They were excellent tea but not so much so that I would consider rebuying most of them. The only exception was a dancong but even that I haven't bought again since the first batch.

[Anonymous No.20349557]

>>20349464
I'm not too versed on white teas besides white pressed. I did enjoy Bai Mu Dan(something peony) from Yunnansourcing.
>>20349465
Yup, especially if you want something to daily. I still have a selection of pricier ones but those are usually a once a week thing.

[Anonymous No.20349581]

>>20349557
how about some white pressed options then?

[Anonymous No.20349714]

As far as tisanes go, valerian root smells bad and tastes bad but whatever's in that plant helps me sleep more consistently than most other things, so I will keep drinking it. (The Adagio blend is palatable, I have had it plain and honestly adding more things to mask the taste is never a bad idea. Probably the only tea where you don't want to taste the actual tea.)

[Anonymous No.20349724]

>>20349581
>how about some white pressed options then?
A few people have been asking for good pressed white teas lately and i don't think we have great suggestions from what ive seen.
If it's in your budget i would just go for the cheaper w2t white cakes (goe for ones that aren't smoked or roasted" or try some from yunnan sourcing.

[Anonymous No.20349726]

>>20349581
W2T is prob you're best bet, I did enjoy the Chen Nian Shou Mei cake from YS

[Anonymous No.20349730]

>>20349714
Yeah valerian root is nasty.
If you can stomach that you should try some cheap American ginseng for daytime drinking, stuff has qi in spades

[Anonymous No.20349828]

>>20349730
It's not time to dig it out of my yard yet but no worries anon, I'm way ahead of you. It grows naturally here. (Sassafras, mountain mint, ginseng, lots of things here. I have been considering trying to grow my own tea at this rate.)

[Anonymous No.20349836]

>>20349828
I have sassafras around here too, i should go dig some up.

[Anonymous No.20349840]

>>20349828
Grow tea, its super easy
https://camforest.com/collections/tea-camellias

[Anonymous No.20349844]

Today's tea: Den’s Tea Guricha
This is first Japanese tea I have had in years. I've not had many Japanese teas yet. The tea liquor is a bright yellow green. Never had a tea quite this bright colored before, it really is like the pictures. The tea has a herbaceous aroma and tastes intensely of green beans with a bitter herbaceous punch. Later steeps brings out some seaweed and spinach notes. Very savory and refreshing. I really should try to get green tea more often. While not the proper way to brew it I used my gaiwan which worked surprisingly well. Just have to be careful not to add too much tea because it is so fragmentary and brews fast. I used 165f water as well which helped prevent it from overbrewing.

[Anonymous No.20349850]

>>20349844
Nice, thaks for a review on dens tea tea, ive been looking at them for a while.

[Anonymous No.20349872]

>>20349581
I mean the moonlight from FL is quite good from what I heard.
The dried leaves smell like overripe fruit, but I sadly didn't drink it.

[Anonymous No.20350138]

>>20349724
>>20349726
>>20349872
I actually had the moonlight from FL and Moon Waffles from W2T already. loved the second one, first was pretty good too
I guess I was hoping there is some cheat code great value white tea. like the Haiwan 9978 or Lumber Slut equivalent in ripe terms, sub 20$ and very tasty

[Anonymous No.20350150]

>>20350138
Best bet for that would be trying some butterfly brand / cnnp / zongcha white cakes on taobao. Assuming you are okay with traditional white teas instead of the ones made with assamica from yunnan.

[Anonymous No.20350156]

Does anyone know a good supplier of barley tea, by chance? I know it's not the right season yet, I'm asking in advance.

[Anonymous No.20350173]

>>20350150
Fullchea has a few but they want nearly $40 and there is no way they are that expensive in china.

[Anonymous No.20350182]

>>20350156
I haven't tried this personally but im convinced you can just buy pounds of roasted barley from a brewery supply site and it would be the same thing.
They sell for like $2 a LB from these kinda stores
https://www.nwbrewers.com/grains/

[Anonymous No.20350188]

>>20350182
Like this has gotta be the same thing

[Anonymous No.20350190]

>>20350182
>>20350188
Thank you anon, that makes sense! Cheers.

[Anonymous No.20350194]

>>20350190
Let us know how it goes if you decide to try it

[Anonymous No.20350205]

>>20350173
They are around $30 on taobao vs $38 on fullchea so not that big of a difference.
No idea what is the difference between bamboo/orchid/plum...

[Anonymous No.20350213]

>>20350205
Oh damn, i thought they would be cheaper.
Yeah i couldn't figure that out either, at first i thought they might be flavored or something but it doesn't really make sense with the names they used.

[Anonymous No.20350232]

>>20350205
Welp my only other idea is the somewhat cheap loose leaf ones that king tea mall sells.
I tried their cheap cake, i got a sample of it ages ago with an order and it seemed horribly bland.
This thing, not great, not that im an expert on white teas.
https://kingteamall.com/collections/white-tea/products/2010-kingteamall-lao-bai-cha-old-white-tea-cake-357g-fuding-white-tea-baicha?variant=32750791983207

[Anonymous No.20350270]

>>20350138
>I guess I was hoping there is some cheat code great value white tea
Wait for anon to report back on the awazon white bricks. Someone here just ordered some recently.
http://www.pu-erhtea.com/TeaDetails.aspx?TeaID=1054

[Anonymous No.20350373]

>>20349464
The whites that you like, different ones can vary significantly from one another.
There are grades based on the leaves picked, bai hao yin zhen aka silver needle (all buds), bai mu dan aka white peony (bud and a leaf), and shou mei aka longevous eyebrow (bud and three or four leaves), and higher grades generally taste more floral, less astringent and less fruity, though this is partly a consequence of higher grades being oxidized less and processed with more care to keep the bus intact.
So, if you're looking to try a soft, lighter, more floral and grassy tea, look for silver needle, white if you're looking for a stronger, more fruity, arguably less complex tea with a more pronounced aroma maybe try a small yue guang bai cake.

[Anonymous No.20350534]

I guess if you like the shitty singer songwriter solo smooth jazz bullshit that boomer audiophiles love it might be fun to buy some dsd recordings made by audiophile labels with $100,000 microphones and shit but in terms of regular pop rock etc you won't find much that was recorded and mastered in dsd so it seems pointless.

[Anonymous No.20350538]

>>20350534
Fuck wrong thread

[Anonymous No.20350555]

>>20346330
these are good kitties

[Anonymous No.20350627]

>>20350534
This really is just an allegory for overpriced vintage ripe pu-erh.

>>20349464
>>20349581
Not super cheap, but some of the best teas I've ever had are Yunnan Sourcing's Wild Tree Purple Moonlight White, and a sample of one of their old Gu Shu Bai Cha cakes (don't remember which specifically, 2019 or 2020 probably).

>>20346330
>>20350555
Next-level tea pet. Where can I buy one?

[Anonymous No.20351350]

8th page coof. Sipped on a little purple cloud lct earlier. Going to miss this one when its gone.

[Anonymous No.20351359]

>>20349464
>>20349581
I enjoyed this very affordable cake from KTM
https://kingteamall.com/collections/white-tea/products/2010-kingteamall-lao-bai-cha-old-white-tea-cake-357g-fuding-white-tea-baicha

[Anonymous No.20351374]

>>20350270
I forgot to post, it's pretty ok. The liquor is sweet and pleasant enough with generic white tea taste, but it's lacking the honeyish/floral notes I like. The neat chocolate shape compression looks cool but makes it hard to open up, it doesn't fully open even when I simmered it. For me it's not a rebuy.
I'll probably brew the rest of these in my flask.
This one is better imo, twice the cost per gram but it's still very cheap.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/2018-moonlight-white-beauty-whiet-chinese-tea-ancient-arbors-of-jingmai-mountain-white-raw-pu-erh-tea-357g
>>20351359
Next on my cheap white cake hitlist for sure

>>20350627
>Yunnan Sourcing's Wild Tree Purple Moonlight White
That one is really good.

[Anonymous No.20351441]

Just tried Jasmine tea and I think it's an abomination.

[Anonymous No.20351451]

>>20346330
I thought that cat was wearing a short pleated skirt and I was really disappointed when I clicked on the full image.

[Anonymous No.20351547]

>>20349714
>valerian root smells bad and tastes bad
They make pills from it, the dose is more reliable than infusion. It helps me to stretch my deep sleep to 3+h a night.

[Anonymous No.20351851]

i hate milk tea so much it's unreal

[Anonymous No.20351857]

>>20351374
>>20350205
so the CNNP white cake on Fullchea would be a good poorfag white option?
although I guess at that point it's not really much cheaper than the summer white tea from Farmerleaf

[Anonymous No.20351937]

Enjoying some red Ai Lao Mountain black tea today
>>20351350
We're a slow thread in general, and /ck/ has a bunch of random retarded threads on mcdonalds for some reason
I only go to this board just for this general and i love to cook kek
>>20351441
Which one and what didn't you like about it?
Not trying to change your mind, just curious about your experience.

[Anonymous No.20351939]

>>20351937
I love cooking more than most things but I only come to this board for the tea general as well. Once in a blue moon I check the catalog but aside from the occasional funny shitpost it's usually just a mess.

[Anonymous No.20351942]

>>20351857
I bought the 2018 moonlight cake on some anon's recommendation last year, they also recommended the 2019 CNNP one then. I haven't tried it but I'd assume it's a decent buy on that basis.

[Anonymous No.20351976]

>>20351937
I've got a yesheng black tea from Aii Lmao, might drink it today. it's very strong on the forest fruit

[Anonymous No.20351979]

>>20351937
>>20351939
Same here, i would dare to say /tea/ is the only reason i even bother coming to this site

>>20351851
So do i, same with boba. It's crazy expensive in my country and i always used to feel ripped of for something that's just tea, milk, brown sugar syrup and tapioca pearls.

[Anonymous No.20351989]

>>20351976
>aii lmao
>so close to getting ayyylmao
kek
and nice! Haven't tried that one yet, I love teas with dark fruit tasting notes

[Anonymous No.20352016]

Drinking a 2005 Xiaguan Jia Ji
Woody barbeque

[Anonymous No.20352051]

There was an anon from a few months back who was REALLY into white teas and had bought some gucci 200 or 300 dollar white tea cake.

Anyone know what I'm talking about and remember the website that anon had gotten the tea from?

[Anonymous No.20352094]

>>20352051
I think there was some guy really into expensive gushu white tea on here, yeah
I'm not sure what the site was, maybe Essence of Tea?

[Anonymous No.20352200]

>>20352051
>>20352094
I remember some guy really liking this tea.
https://essenceoftea.com/collections/other-teas/products/2022-secret-forest-white?variant=29271828365364
45¢ a gram

[Anonymous No.20352216]

Speaking of EOT they just added some pre ROC cups for decent prices for your lead connoisseurs.
https://essenceoftea.com/collections/new-products/products/50ml-60ml-qing-dynasty-xizi-antique-cups
https://essenceoftea.com/collections/new-products/products/40-45ml-qing-dynasty-xizi-antique-cups
They also added a few big $$$ semi aged shengs.
Including this bing dao which is ironically probably cheap as far as semi aged bing dao goes.
https://essenceoftea.com/collections/new-products/products/2006-bing-dao-lao-zhai-ancient-tree-puerh
And also some 2000s Bangwai
https://essenceoftea.com/collections/new-products/products/2005-bang-wai-single-tree-puerh

[Anonymous No.20352543]

>>20351857
Honestly this hunt for a cheap tea is quite tiering and I feel like it's not even worth it in the end.
Even with "good" cheap tea I feel like I end up using more leaves so in the end is it really still cheap?
I'm probably grumpy due to RL being frustrating but I'm thinking this year I will go full boomer mode, buy bunch of FL cakes and be done for the year.

[Anonymous No.20352635]

>>20352543
for sure, you can't really minmax tea in the end. but it's still nice to have something disposable that you can just slam down without feeling like you're wasting it

[Anonymous No.20352965]

Is the moonlight white worth the extra over regular white in FL?
Also summer harvest seems quite unusual right?

[Anonymous No.20353045]

>>20352965
I think they're both moonlight
summer harvest is supposed to be kind of weak and shit compared to spring, so that's why the price is different, summer material is cheaper. not sure if it matters as much for a moonlight white though

[Anonymous No.20353050]

>>20352965
i have both the whites on farmerleaf right now but i havent tried the one labeled moonlight yet, whenever i get around to it i can post about it if you want

[Anonymous No.20353058]

>>20352965
They are both sold as "Moonlight White" style teas albeit neither are made from the type of tea plant that gives it a silver and black "moonlight" appearance. The summer cake is a bit older which may or may not be a perk depending on preferences but is cheaper because it is a summer tea and therefore likely weaker than a spring tea. They are both probably good. You could always grab a sample of both and order a cake later if you don't want to commit.

>>20351939
>>20351979
Some generals are genuinely good sources of information. But many of the boards feel like they have a poor signal to noise ratio. A bit too much shitposts and angry sperging for my likes.

[Anonymous No.20353140]

>>20353058
mmn, that's a good way of putting it i feel.

[Anonymous No.20353713]

>>20352543
>this year I will go full boomer mode, buy bunch of FL cakes and be done for the year.
That's pretty much what i did last year and it worked out pretty well. I had to add in a bit of variety so i wasn't just drinking young raws but i didn't reach for different teas all that often.

[Anonymous No.20354113]

>>20349714
>valerian
I need to try some again. I remember it being kind of stinky but not terrible in a tea blend.

[Anonymous No.20354151]

>>20352094
>>20352200
That sounds like it. Thanks lads.

[Anonymous No.20354313]

Chunk of white tea cake hasn't come loose after a few infusions, is this normal?

[Anonymous No.20354352]

>>20354313
sometimes a chunk wont even break apart after im fully finished with it, it doesnt have any effect on taste for me so i dont really care, but maybe theres a solution im unaware of. just know youre not alone.

[Anonymous No.20354356]

how much tea do you actually get per month from this w2t... subscriber club, monthly, thing. 30 a month an okay deal?

[Anonymous No.20354426]

>>20354356
i dont have it but on the site i thought it says it varies each month because of the many different teas they send you. you probably should not rely on them sending you enough tea for a month, to me it looks like its oriented for people who want to consistently try many teas while additionally buying stuff they already like on the side, but someone who is actually subscribed to the monthly box will probably be able to give more insight.

[Anonymous No.20354504]

>>20354356
Usually ~50g but I also got a 200g cake of green hype one month. You can look back through this guys blog and see what they've been sending out lately. I had it back in 2021.
https://oolongowl.com/category/tea-reviews/white-2-tea/

[Anonymous No.20354720]

Order from TheTea.pl just came. Early spring Taiwanese Bi Luo Chun and two moonlight whites.

[Anonymous No.20354731]

>>20354720
Nice, we don't get many white and green tea reviews here. Also nice sticker.

[Anonymous No.20354770]

>>20354720
note that the 50 gram Jingmai white bag is way larger than the 100 gram Nannuo bag, because the former is not pressed
>>20354731
I'm usually a pu-erh guy, but wanted more variety. I really liked a Taiwanese Bi Luo Chun I had last year, it was my favorite Chinese-style green tea I've had, so quite excited to try a super fresh one

[Anonymous No.20355165]

I was gonna do a write-up on Japanese green teas but got lazy. Still could, let me know if you need info on selecting and buying greens. Anyway after 5 trips to and from Kyushu in the past year, I've gotten much better at not fucking up common teas, so here's the data I've collected for best taste. Recommend 120ml kyusu with mesh lining and a borosilicate chahai, 45ml ceramic tea or sake cup, vacuum thermos, temp-control electric kettle or at least a thermometer
My parameters produce a stronger and more umami-sweet first steep, minimize bitterness, and balance the vegetation and bitterness from second steep on. Found out the hard way through trial and error. Package directions don't always work.

>Sencha, general and fukamushi
3.5 ("light taste" type) to 4.5g leaf
Bring water to 73~78 degrees C then pour directly into cool thermos to get temp between 72 and 75c. On my kettle, this is achieved by setting water to "warm" (70c) then to "5 minute simmer" (85c) for about 30 seconds before shutting it off manually. Warm pitcher and cup with water.
1st steep: 72~75c water, 100-120ml, steep for 50s then gently pour out. Rap the bottom of the kyusu with your palm 3 or so times to level out the leaves, then sharply pour out the residuals.
2nd steep: same water and volume, 20 seconds
3rd steep is optional, but 50 seconds if you're going to

>Kabuse
4g leaf
Bring water to 70c (warm function on my kettle) and hold. Warm cup but not chahai.
1st steep: pour about 90ml into cool chahai, then from chahai into kyusu. Steep 1m30s.
2nd steep: warm kettle water to around 75c and pour into thermos, same as sencha method. 90ml into kyusu. Steep for 30s.
3rd steep: Thermos water, steep for one minute.
4th step optional, try 85-95c water for one minute if you're curious

>Yame gyokuro
5g leaf. Otherwise the same as kabuse parameters.

>Tenkaichi gyokuro
Follow the package directions. If you're paying 30 bucks for 50g it should tell you exactly how to brew it.

[Anonymous No.20355196]

>>20355165 cont'd
Kabuse has a lot of options, it's said that you can brew it like sencha or like gyokuro. I've found that it's better (for my tastes) to brew yame gyokuro somewhat differently than standard, which is usually something intense like 10g leaf and 80ml water. I go for half of that because despite how much nips keep gaslighting me there is a very distinct, strong, astringent vegetation to yame that needs to be restrained with a higher water to leaf ratio.
Anyway, I brew kabuse with almost the same parameters, never like a sencha or tenkaichi gyokuro. And I find that once I bring the water to the 70-80 range, I don't feel like I have to keep raising it. Many Japanese enjoy a strong bitterness in their last steep. I don't. I think they get around that by pairing tea with snacks; tradition dictates that you never eat snacks with the first steep of tea, always with the second steep on.

>Genmaicha/matcha-added genmaicha
Relatively forgiving but don't go crazy. Bring water to 85c then dump into thermos. Warm chahai and cup.
1st steep: 5g leaf, 6g if you want it extra strong, 120ml water from thermos, 30-50s.
2nd steep: 10s.
3rd steep: 30-60s.

>Hojicha
It's a roast tea so crank it up. Boil water (100c) and pour directly into your thermos to lower it to around 90-95c. Warm your chahai but not your cup.
1st steep: 5g or 6g depending on the quality and notes of your leaf. Each label is different. 120ml, 45s.
2nd steep: 30s.
3rd steep: 45-60s.

I still need to try asatsuyu and something-midori to see if they have special parameters, but the above has worked for Kyushu fukamushi, Kyoto organic sencha, and Shizuoka "light taste" sencha

[Anonymous No.20355454]

>>20355196
>>20355165
Saemidori is a bit more sweet and doesn't get as bitter as most sencha cultivars from what I've tried

I love Jap greens, but I've never been into heavy brewing autism. they do benefit from it way more than most teas admittedly. I just tend to go 1 to 1.5 minute for first brew, 1-10seconds for second brew and third and fourth is whatever. temperature is 70 degrees for first two brews, 80 for the third one and 95 for fourth

meanwhile, I'm brewing some fresh spring Chinese green tea grandpa style right now and it's perfectly fine. really different styles of tea overall

[Anonymous No.20355469]

Anons, where are you getting black tea from these days? In the US and I can find generic Assam and Ceylon teas if I go to an Indian grocery store, and there's a few options on Amazon under the Davidson's label that are good. I used to order from Upton Tea but their prices for everything went up 600% in the past few years. I'm not looking for anything fancy, just want a decent daily brew.

[Anonymous No.20355563]

>>20354313
>>20354352
If i end up with a tea that doesn't separate on it's own i usually will split large chunks into two thinner layers by putting the chunk on it's side and jamming a pick in. This is usually enough to allow the two smaller pieces to open up without creating too much excessive breakage. I find that trying to break up really compressed pieces further then that mostly just results in lots of broken leaves.
>>20354356
You basically get $20 worth of tea and pay $10 for shipping each month. In terms of quality of tea per dollar its not a great deal. The appeal is that you get to try all kind of interesting uncommon teas and experiments. Definitely you do as a supplementary just for fun addition to your regular tea purchases.

[Anonymous No.20355577]

>>20351441
I quite like Jasmine tea.
Some are sensitive to turn bitter or have too much jasmine aroma. I steep at 80°C for quite a long time. The jasmine aroma fades quickly in subsequent steeps so I'd recommend western style for it.

[Anonymous No.20355583]

>>20355469
>I'm not looking for anything fancy, just want a decent daily brew.
My friend, the middle eastern tea brands have your back.
https://www.amazon.com/Alwazah-Triple-Traders-Loose-Ceylon/dp/B07DZ4M75Z/
Just a good classic ceylon, use a generous amount of tea for each brew. If you have a middle eastern food market near you you can find it even cheaper.
We had a poster from somewhere over there a while ago who tested like three dozen brands and that was his favorite that seems to be easily available in the us.

[Anonymous No.20355585]

>>20354356
All subscriptions vary in weight on any site but some of the better ones only really reach around 75/100g, w2t's is around 50g iirc.
It's not a cost optimal method, it's more for surprise and variety of things to try. Usually a worse cost to tea ratio than sampler packs.
they can be fun, but it's not a decent amount of tea unless you only drink 1-2 times per week max.
Personally I'd use that 30ish bucks for 2x50gr of decent tea I haven't tried instead, but it's up to you.

[Anonymous No.20355591]

>>20355583
Another off the highly rated teas from anon.
https://www.amazon.com/KBOUS-Fine-Black-Loose-16oz-454g/dp/B06VY6J1WQ/

[Anonymous No.20355636]

I remember the teaDB guys talking about getting the pu-burps and having no fuckin clue what they are talking about. Then last year i got some super fresh raw cakes and i was burping like crazy the first few sessions i had with them and then it never happened again. Still confused about that one

[Anonymous No.20355669]

When is the japanese harvest

[Anonymous No.20355733]

Having some sencha with a friend

[Anonymous No.20355736]

>>20355669
>When is the japanese harvest
Soon™
Harvest begins in a week or two. Tea will be available after that.

[Anonymous No.20355791]

W2t gingerbread man, sweet and bready... I think pretty much anyone who likes shu would enjoy this. I just sip it and feel better.
Just before I had the "karst" which I thought was pretty crap.

[Anonymous No.20355804]

>>20355791
Nice! Glad more people are trying it. Of the 4 shulloween cakes I was expecting the cheapest GBM to be mediocre but I was very surprised at how much I like it. Its just comfy and ez.

[Anonymous No.20355826]

>>20355804
Nice. Which other cakes were in there?
I got the bag, which was pretty enjoyable (except the prosbloom)

[Anonymous No.20355863]

>>20355826
GBM, 2020 Old Reliable, Big Jacko and a "club exclusive" Charlie. Jacko and GBM are great, OR is boring, haven't drank enough charlie to form an opinion yet.

[Anonymous No.20355870]

I'm finishing the last of my honey orchid dan cong from KTM. It was the first dan cong oolong I ever had. Very good. I'll have to get more this spring without a doubt.
>>20355733
>>20355791
Sounds nice, lads. Have a nice weekend.

[Anonymous No.20355957]

Today's tea: Red Blossom Tea’s Snow Dragon
The dry leaves look like a cross between a dragonwell green tea and a silver needle white tea. It is light and fluffy like a white tea as well. Reminds me a bit of a tea that I had a sample of once which was sold as wild silver needles. It tastes kind of like how you would expect it to with both parts of this hybrid tea showing through. On one end you have a delicate nutty green bean taste from on the other you have some Fuding white tea character that I am having a hard time putting in more precise words. The green tea side is the more prominent though. It has got a nice strong sweetness to it as well. I would say it is a very nice tea overall. Sometime I will try to grab some more fluffy whitish green teas to compare with.

[Anonymous No.20355962]

>>20355957
Damn those are fluffy
>>20355870
KTM wins again

[Anonymous No.20355994]

>>20355870
Cheers. I gotta get some dan cong in, looks great.

[Anonymous No.20356020]

>>20355469
>>20355583
Thanks for this. Should have added that I was aware of middle eastern brand already, they're another go-to, but I hadn't come across tea specifically from Yemen before. Will have to give that a try.

Another question - has anyone noticed a difference in the quality of Turkish tea in recent times? I drank it practically by the gallon in the early 2010's, but I've bought some twice in the past three years (both pink and yellow packages - I've never been able to learn for sure what the differences are supposed to be) it always tasted foul, but there was nothing obvious amiss with the dry leaves.

[Anonymous No.20356046]

>>20356020
>- has anyone noticed a difference in the quality of Turkish tea in recent times?
Possible the tea was old or improperly stored, it's possible they just packaged bad quality tea. Best bet is to try some other brands or buy from a different storem

[Anonymous No.20356099]

>>20355165
Nice writeup, I capped it for later. Any chance you could recommend a hojicha to a total japanese tea noob?

[Anonymous No.20356163]

>>20355791
Was considering gingerbread man but went for another Slut cake. Maybe next time.
Too bad about Karst, I like Moon Waffles a lot so have been thinking what else trom the w2t white teas I might like. Nightlife sounds promising.

[Anonymous No.20356207]

>>20355870
Is that the pricey skull pot from white2tea? Didn't know anyone ITT had it

[Anonymous No.20356217]

>>20356163
Its expensive but I liked the bit of 21 yesheng gushu baicha I got from the club. Tasted like a field of strawberry greens.

[Anonymous No.20356219]

>>20356207
Got some shit for it. I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who liked it. I wish the lid was deeper. Shit leaks from the lid if even the tiniest leaf flake gets under the lip. Incredibly smooth pour, though.
To each their own, I don't regret it for a moment. Didn't realize how much I wanted a glazed teapot until I got it.

[Anonymous No.20356240]

Post more tea related cats please

[Anonymous No.20356385]

>>20355962
KMT always wins. Cheap tea with moderate to great quality. Never had a bad or ruined tea from them. Shipping being expensive is the only downside.

[Anonymous No.20356389]

Grosses me out off tea thinking about it being grubbed by filthy disgusting catfaggot hands

[Anonymous No.20356416]

>>20356389
Get toxoplasmosis'd retard

[Anonymous No.20356445]

>>20356389
Grosses me out thinking about your keyboard being "grubbed [sic]" by filthy disgusting subhuman faggot hands.

[Anonymous No.20356450]

>>20355469
I have been enjoying a variety of the yunnan black teas from yunnan sourcing. Most of them are pretty affordable, especially if you buy a large quantity.

[Anonymous No.20356492]

>>20355469
Oh yeah another suggestion is boxes of chinese black tea. I would start with the first one, shipping takes about 2 maybe 3 weeks.
https://dragonteahouse.biz/xiaguan-brand-dian-hong-yunnan-black-tea-300g/
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/2019-yunnan-old-tree-black-tea-dianhong-feng-qing-red-tea-cake-357g
Not as cheap as ceylon but if you like the idea of black tea that's more on the fruity sweet side and less on the malty bitter side you may enjoy them.
Amazon listing for a similar tea if you wanna order from there instead.
https://www.amazon.com/TIAN-HU-SHAN-Yunnan-Dianhong/dp/B0B4JT5QVG

[Anonymous No.20356504]

>>20356492
Pretty looking leaves compared to your typical ceylon teas.

[Anonymous No.20356543]

Damn bros people just out here selling Psilocybin teabags openly with fancy ass websites and packaging.
This is technically a tisane right?

[Anonymous No.20356571]

Only ever drank black tea and earl grey. What would other good teas to try?

[Anonymous No.20356631]

>>20356571
those would the other colors teas crimson, golden, jade

[Anonymous No.20356679]

>>20356571
Try some Chinese black tea
https://dragonteahouse.biz/xiaguan-brand-dian-hong-yunnan-black-tea-300g/
Or try some white tea. For something different
https://yunnansourcing.us/products/assamica-sun-dried-silver-needles-white-pu-erh-tea
Or if you wanna taste some tea that's savory and tastes like seaweed broth try some decent Japanese sencha.
https://www.amazon.com/Sugimoto-Company-Japanese-Package-ASINPPOSPRME18669/dp/B00DDGRE0M/

[Anonymous No.20356695]

>>20356571
Blindly buy 300g of Taiwanese oolongs from a website that's only in chinese
150g of old frozen top alpine oolong and 150g of Sugilin Creek Alpine tea.
https://www.teahome.com/product/upteah/
https://www.teahome.com/product/as1/

[Anonymous No.20356719]

>>20356543
I really wanna try shrooms but I don't think my brain will have a good time.

[Anonymous No.20356789]

>>20356543
>>20356719
Shrooms are for gay bitches, wake me up when they sell LSD tea.

[Anonymous No.20356804]

>>20356789
>LSD Tea
>not saying LSTea
you missed your chance anon

[Anonymous No.20356811]

>>20356789
>LSD
>Not DMT
Girl it already has a tea, it's called ayahuasca

[Anonymous No.20357065]

>>20355454
It's yutakamidori. Not sure how it turns out. Saemidori and okumidori sound great too. Some people like tropical flavors more, and that's yutakamidori, which I guess is brother to chiran.
I was looser on brews before, or just used whatever was on the label, but I've found a lot of what I brew at home was lacking the character of what even the laziest and least informed tea stall aunties were putting out in Japanese department stores so I practiced until my tea tasted less cheap and this is what I got.

>>20356099
Good question, I bought an excellent hojicha from a small shop/cafe in Fukuoka, don't know if they do online sales. Most major brands have something cheap and decent. If all else fails, I can recommend Tsujiri Chaho as my favorite economy and large volume brand, otherwise shotgun amazon.jp and get something with plenty of 4-5 star ratings.

[Anonymous No.20357149]

>>20356219
I like it alot. The red one looks fantastic too.

[Anonymous No.20357172]

Does this work?

[Anonymous No.20357342]

>>20357172
why would the liquor be that dark, was she shot before the clothes were collected?

[Anonymous No.20357467]

>>20356240
Best I got

[Anonymous No.20357564]

>>20357172
The majority of that liquid will be dye from the clothes and in all cases it will be a foul brew.

[Anonymous No.20357587]

>dye
>clothes

[Anonymous No.20357596]

>>20357587
My brother most panties are cotton and if they're dark blue or black the fuckers have been dyed.

[Anonymous No.20357601]

>>20357467
Thank you, kind sir

[Anonymous No.20357627]

>>20357596
Most people wash their clothes before wearing them.

[Anonymous No.20357653]

>>20357596
They're pantyhose

[Anonymous No.20358170]

>>20356543
reminded me that there is that hallucinogenic honey

[Anonymous No.20358627]

getting a bit of grapefruit-type bitterness out of the 2022 Lumber Slut. I wonder if they upped the bulang material or something

[Anonymous No.20358639]

>>20346330
anyone here makes his own cherry blossom tea? How do you do it? All I can find online is using read made leaves. I have both a wild cherry and a sakura and wanted to use the blossoms this year.

[Anonymous No.20358875]

>>20358627
I can't imagine there being Bulang in Lumber Slut.

[Anonymous No.20358891]

>>20358875
why not? I thought bulang plantation material was not uncommon in ripe, though mixed in with other stuff
whatever they put in there that year, it's got some bitterness to it for sure

[Anonymous No.20358893]

>>20358891
Bulang is pretty pricey material, isn't it? Even plantation material, I thought. Seems like something less likely to put in a cheaper offering.

[Anonymous No.20358907]

>>20358875
>>20358627
>lumber slut
jesus christ here I was all thinking "maybe I should get back into tea"

[Anonymous No.20358913]

>>20358907

[Anonymous No.20358926]

>>20357172
Tea (and many other tinctural plants) can be used to dye fabrics. If the fabric is plant based, you have to use a dye fixative. Not mandatory for wool or silk. If it's some petrochemical fabric I have no clue.

[Anonymous No.20358961]

Assam milk tea and a cigarette

[Anonymous No.20359040]

>>20358170
>reminded me that there is that hallucinogenic honey
Oh yeah, i remember that, i was interested in buying some at one point but its more expensive then that meme manuka honey and hard to find honest legit suppliers.

[Anonymous No.20359056]

>>20358961
Might as well smoke bidis if you are in India

[Anonymous No.20359192]

>>20358639
Oh, I didn't think to try that, I feel dumb. I have a weeping cherry in my backyard. Let me know how it goes or if you find anything, I'm curious. Mine hasn't blossomed yet since it's been cold still.

[Anonymous No.20359270]

>>20358639
>cherry blossom tea? How do you do it?
I would assume
Harvest cherry blossoms early in the morning
Spread out on a sheet or something on a table in your yard or on your patio or whatever and sun dry them
Once dry store in jar
Add dry blossoms to hot water
Tea
If you want to make scented tea
Harvest fresh blossoms
Mix with the finished dry tea you want to scent
Leave overnight in some sort of baking dish or pot uncovered with the tea and blossoms heaped together.
Next morning, spread tea and blossoms and dry in sun, the tea will have picked up moisture from the fresh buds and needs to be dried
Remove the blossoms
Repeat several times or as desired
For the last drying you can leave the blossoms in if you like how they look.
Store in mason jar or other airtight container.
That's basically how they make osmanthus tea or jasmine tea so im assuming the same would apply to cherry blossoms.

[Anonymous No.20359287]

>>20359270
For scenting the tea you might want to harvest the blossoms and mix everything in the evening so its only sitting for 12 hours overnight instead of 20, just in case these is some mold risk from leaving everything humid for so long.

[Anonymous No.20359343]

>>20358893
Nah the no name bulang villages making taidi cha aren't necessarily super expensive. I'm sure a 17$ per 200 gram tea can afford that kind of material.

[Anonymous No.20359508]

I have a tea strainer that lets through very fine dust into my mug when I brew fanning tea. It does the job, but as it has become quite stained over 10 years of use, I was wondering if there is anything better out there?

[Anonymous No.20359572]

Today's tea: Hatvala’s Fish Hook Green Tea
This is my first time trying a Vietnamese tea I think. I have been wanting to try tea from there for a while. The leaves are very finely hand into little lose curls. Looks like it is a fine grade picking. The taste reminds me of roasted chestnuts. Strongly sweet and savory. It is maybe more nutty tasting then green tasting. The tea’s has a brothy mouthfeel and finish is crisp and and drying. I really like this tea, it seems distinctive from the other Chinese green teas I have had in the past. However, I am not that experienced with green teas yet.

[Anonymous No.20359606]

>>20359508
You can boil it with some baking soda in a pot on the stove to clean it.
You can get one of these tea brew baskets like pic related, they still let some dust through but they are good if you just want to brew some tea in a mug.
>>20359572
Sounds good, i gotta try some of that

[Anonymous No.20359661]

I love my kyuusu so much

[Anonymous No.20359677]

>>20359661
Cool pot
Do you just use it for Japanese teas?
Do you notice any effect on the teas flavor from brewing in it?

[Anonymous No.20359701]

>>20359677
Yes
No, it's about the same us using a tea strainer like this >>20359606 which I use at work. The more noticeable taste difference comes from when at work I brew using the strainer in a stainless tumbler vs. a ceramic mug. At home I use the pictured pot and a yunomi or chawan to drink out of. Tastes the same as the strainer and the ceramic mug setup. Even still, the largest taste difference comes from the water source: at home I have an RO filter system to drink from. At work it's just normal sediment/carbon filters, and mostly tastes the same as RO. Straight city/well water tastes bad.

[Anonymous No.20359716]

If anyone is interested Liquid proust has brought in some higher end aged HK and Taiwanese cakes including the "2003 Hong Kong Henry" special order cake which used to be a topic of discussion back in the blogger days of the puerh community. The tea apparently has a ticket embedded on both sides to help mark it. I just wish the prices were like what they were back then because I cant afford any of the "classic" cakes right now.

[Anonymous No.20359743]

>>20359701
>the largest taste difference comes from the water source
Yeah it sucks when you have great water at home but you want to brew tea somewhere else

[Anonymous No.20359753]

Decent price for a semi aged Malaysia stored xiaguan if anyone wants to try an older factory cake. I wouldn't buy these with Kunming storage but with some stronger humidity they should have aged some.
https://www.liquidproust.com/listing/1667176047/2005-t8653-september-batch-xiaguan-raw

[Anonymous No.20359754]

>>20359661
Incredibly jealous

[Anonymous No.20359815]

What tea are you drinking to celebrate today?

[Anonymous No.20359916]

>>20359815
Da hong pao!

[Anonymous No.20359965]

>>20359815
The usual shu puer in the morning and before my nap, I cut up some ginger and simmered it at anon's recommendation. There was a zesty kick, almost a spiciness I was not expecting.
Christ is Risen!

[Anonymous No.20360020]

>>20359965
Yeah making tea with fresh ginger tastes way different then the dried stuff in ginger teabags, at least the ones ive tried.
I really enjoy the intensity if you make it strong, though i do add a bit of honey sometimes.

[Anonymous No.20360534]

>>20359815
What tea is best when steeped for 3 days?

[Anonymous No.20360539]

>>20360534
Liubao

[Anonymous No.20360836]

Bros, when does Floating Leaves stock on their 2024 spring oolongs.
I also need to find which site sells good green teas.

[Anonymous No.20360933]

>>20360836
Not sure on the restock.
What kind of green tea are you looking for?
If you aren't sure maybe try some Vietnamese greens. These guys have some 2024 teas already and some fall teas from last year.
https://hatvala.com/green-tea-vietnam/fish-hook-green-tea/

[Anonymous No.20360947]

Has anyone seen www.curioustea.com before? They don't look half bad, harvest date listed on everything, wide variety. Their puer section is a bit of a mess but not anywhere near as bad as ive seen elsewhere.
Anyway if anyone wants offer an opinion on it, i might throw it it the rentry to beef up the UK section.

[Helpless Investor No.20360960]

What stonk is /tea/ approved/

[Anonymous No.20361161]

If I have a cake where I can smell(not taste) some of that old/storage smell, will unwrapping it and leave it just in a room help air it out?

[Anonymous No.20361181]

Hello

[Anonymous No.20361309]

Herro Anon
>>20346330
I want to get into properly aging puerh and maybe revive this dried out 2018 sheng cake.
I heard anons here using those "boveda packs".
Could I just wrap the cake into an airtight bag like picrelated together with aforementioned humidification sachet?

[Anonymous No.20361320]

>>20355733
>having friends

[Anonymous No.20361323]

>>20354720
Do they really ship from poland?

[Anonymous No.20361338]

>>20361323
They do.
First impressions on the white teas are alright. Can't say I like them as much as I did Moon Waffles though, they don't have that nice creamy milkiness or strong sweetness. The Jingmai one is herbal in an interesting way, the other one is closer to a black tea with a bit of honey and apple.
The green tea is great though. Really savory and aromatic, a bit different from the more sweet and roasty Chinese greens.

[Anonymous No.20361408]

>>20361309
Yeah, that's like the most simple setup you can make: airtight bag+ boveda pack.
There was an anon here who tested this setup a while ago with some sheng samples. IIRC it worked quite well.

[Anonymous No.20361516]

>>20361161
Yeah a couple weeks on a shelf will probably reduce it, no need to unwrap it though if its just in paper.

[Anonymous No.20361594]

Why are cat people so gross?

[Anonymous No.20361795]

>>20361594
idk anon, why are you such a faggot? there are many mysteries in the world

[Anonymous Mogul No.20362059]

>>20360960
why, CHAD of course.

[Rich Investor No.20362276]

>>20362059
for me, it's AUTSM

[Anonymous No.20362314]

Today's tea: Smile Tea’s Organic Kabusecha Sencha
More green tea today as it befits the season. I don’t really know how to visually grade sencha as it is supposed to be somewhat broken up but the tea looks fine. Lots of nice dark green needles and strands. It is a Kabusecha and therefore I think it is supposed to have a darker color do to having been shaded. It maybe is marginally darker than the Guricha I had the other day but if there is a difference it is subtle. This time the green tea is more asparagus forward with some sugar pea sweetness rounding out the flavor. Some baked winter squash flavors come out after the the first couple steeps. The tea seems nice to me. Brewing in a gaiwan is probably the best choice for this tea but still can work if you are ok with a strong cup.

[Anonymous No.20362526]

>>20346330
>what-cha.com/products/intro-to-tea-collection

Is this (the scented variation) the best intro for a total newbie living in Bonglandia?

[Anonymous No.20362563]

>>20362526
I've been wondering about it, it's kinda odd that it has no chinese tea at all in it. But what-cha in general don't stock a huge amount of chinese tea. Just keep in mind, particularly chinese black tea is pretty different to black tea from other places.
I'm sure it'd be pretty nice anyway, I've generally been happy with everything I've had from what-cha and there's some interesting stuff in it. That malawi ripe.
Personally I'd skip the scented ones.

[Anonymous No.20362575]

>>20362526
looks okay. I agree that the lack of chinese teas is odd though, these have the most variety by far. I'd definitely swap out the experimental Malawi tea for some more standard ripe pu-erh, add some white tea, a Chinese green tea, a wuyi oolong...

[Anonymous No.20362669]

>buy cute tea ball off etsy
>leaves just drift right into the cup
God dammit.

[Anonymous No.20362687]

>>20346330
fags

[Anonymous No.20362695]

>It's very good, but I'd swap everything for everything else.
Reminds me of comments under blogger recipes.
>I've made this recipe but instead of spaghetti I've used rice (hubby was born under Celiac sign, he's incompatible) and instead of meat in the sauce I have used beans (I'm vegan). Love this bolognese recipe, A:10 V:10 thanks yify.

Speaking of, I just made the meme burned spaghetti ala assassin. Get on this bros, it works. The umami bomb got me a head high, no kidding.
Time to brew some lao cha tou as digestif.

[Anonymous No.20362703]

>>20346330
Question for the tea nerds here: I've been making tea wine for a while, just using standard grocery store bag tea but I want to make something higher end, with better tea flavor, maybe also more caffeine if possible. Which tea would you recommend for fermentation?

[Anonymous No.20362718]

>>20362563
>>20362575
Thanks for all the suggestions, guys. I guess, I'll just put together a kit of my own.

[Anonymous No.20362727]

>>20362703
is this some prison recipe made in lay's bag? I'm not gonna even google this.
try grocery store loose leaf. the other good tea is for drinking straight, don't bother.

[Anonymous No.20362741]

>>20362727
It's just strong black tea plus some sugar, yeast, and time. I usually also add raisins, citrus zest and some yeast nutrient, but I'd probably omit the first two with a higher quality tea.

[Anonymous No.20362752]

>>20362741
>strong black tea
then go for CTC indian loose "leaf"
it's in sort of granules, you can make very concentrated brew with that.
it should be cheap. if you find one link it here so we can help.

[Anonymous No.20363095]

>>20362687

[Anonymous No.20363119]

im looking for cheap end raw puer, i dont really see anything super cheap on w2t, but i do see this from yunan sourcing us, has anyone has this before? 2008 Liming "Zao Chun Jia Ji" Raw Pu-erh Tea Cake

jeez i was gonna post the pic but fuckign stupid webp images. this is the cheapest listed raw on here and it looks nice. any other recommendations?

[Anonymous No.20363185]

>>20363119
I really like this. Couple other anons have snagged this and all had good things to say. Might make a cup now.
http://www.pu-erhtea.com/TeaDetails.aspx?TeaID=796

[Anonymous No.20363202]

>>20363185
Oh yeah, I wanted to ask how anon(s) are brewing this. Do you make butter tea as suggested?

[Anonymous No.20363238]

>>20362752
What if I wanted to branch out more though? Any green teas or oolongs you could recommend?

[Anonymous No.20363278]

>>20363185
>>20363202
Hard to believe it can be good at two cents per gram. What's the catch?!

[Anonymous No.20363362]

>>20363185
I just brew it normally. Gongfu or grandpa.
>>20363278
Its xiaguan scrap. Couple whole leaves on top and the rest is small bits, dust and stems. Its tasty. I've got some 2017 sitting around as well.
https://kingteamall.com/products/2017-xiaguan-baoyan-bianxiaozhuan-brick-250g-5-1250g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha?_pos=2&_sid=6223f75fe&_ss=r

[Anonymous No.20363821]

>>20362314
Vegetable broth soup tea

[Anonymous No.20363826]

>>20362703
Massive step up from teabags
https://www.amazon.com/Alwazah-Triple-Traders-Loose-Ceylon/dp/B07DZ4M75Z/

[Anonymous No.20364045]

>>20363119
You could try the Yellow Flakes cake at Farmerleaf, or the Huey Wa. Free shipping makes FL a good place to grab a single cake on the cheaper side

[Anonymous No.20364456]

>>20363119
>im looking for cheap end raw puer
Depends a lot on what you want in particular. What have you tried so far? Raw puer can be wildly different so do you want something similar to what you have had or are you happy to try anything cheap?
For old raw, king tea mall has lots. Just go through recently added and you will find old $30 cakes.
For younger cakes grab some cheaper mangku rongshi offerings
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2021-mengku-rongshi-1/products/2006-xiaguan-jia-ji-1st-grade-iron-cake-357g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha?variant=31365336727655
Or some slightly aged factory tea and cheap shipping these are pretty good.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/xiaguan-2011-sheng-puer-cake-bulang-old-tree-since-1902-puercha-357g
Farmer leafs stuff on sale is real good for the money, the spring sale should be pretty soon.

[Anonymous No.20364560]

christ you people are helpful
>>20364456
>>20364045
>>20363362
i guess ill see if this farmer leaf sale happens soon, and then ive made a note of this HUey Wa and Yellow Flakes stuff. i dont know what I like yet, only had amazon... young raw? i think, taetea

feels like ive been shitting up this thread heavily for weeks now, the reality is ive just been slowly losing my mind waiting for babbys first w2t order to arrive. im out of tea right now and i had some coffee instead and it sucked! cant believe ive shifted so heavily so quickly

[Anonymous No.20364616]

>>20364560
The 150g dayi? It's probably semi-aged. Dunno what amazon is stocking but you see a lot of those around at about 10-12 years. Young raw from the boutique type producers like W2T and FL has a surprisingly different profile, though it's all really varied.

[Anonymous No.20364631]

>>20364616
how retarded am i for literally knowing nothing about any of this, and yet ive already bought a tongue scraper, on a scale from 1 to 10

[Anonymous No.20364646]

>>20364560
Don't worry about it, puer and getting into tea in general can be pretty overwhelming, we are happy to help.
For framer leaf cakes i would recommend this spring naka.
https://www.farmer-leaf.com/collections/menghai-area/products/spring-2023-naka-small-trees
And Bangwai small trees
https://www.farmer-leaf.com/collections/hidden-locations/products/spring-2023-bangwai-small-trees
The naka should scratch a similar itch as the 7542 and the bangwei is tasty and accessible.
As far as other teas i would suggest this cake. (Don't worry about the Russian it's a Chinese shop the owner is just marketing to them) flat $5 shipping.
https://tea-expert.net/mengku/10128-cha-hun-2021?page=3
That xiaguan cake i posted before.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/xiaguan-2011-sheng-puer-cake-bulang-old-tree-since-1902-puercha-357g
As far as going for cheaper stuff then that it's definitely possible but gets a little tricky.
This is another tea factory's version of that dayi 7542, there is the chance it could be a bit rough around the edges but it's cheap and should be pretty similar to the cake you bought.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/2020-haiwan-7548-raw-puer-batch-201-sheng-puerh-tea-cake-357g
And one thats a few years older
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/haiwan-2017-batch-171-old-comrade-7548-pu-erh-tea-cake-sheng-puer-357g
If you still have the wrapper for the cake you bought could you take a look at the back of the wrapper? There should be a date with a stamp on it somewhere that will tell you when the cake you bought was made and will maybe help me make recommendations.
Overall those final cakes i listed from haiwan and xiaguan are the closest to cheap and something like what you bought last time.

[Anonymous No.20364652]

>>20364631
A tongue scraper is a good buy anyways, improves your breath and is way superior to brushing your tongue with a toothbrush.

[Anonymous No.20364654]

>>20364631
>he scrapes off his precious tongue patina

[Anonymous No.20364659]

The 2024 /tea/ tooth patina thunderdome.
No cheating by chewing betel nut.

[Anonymous No.20364680]

>>20364646
jesus christ, i already have like 25 tea related tabs open, alright lets make it 31 tabs...

looks like i threw away the wrappers but kept the boxes. thank you very much for your recommendations. ill probably refer to this comment for some time. no big deal if the tea isnt like the -one- that i tried and liked, i plan on trying basically every variation i can. i did get a ripe version from that same amazon page and did like that a lot as well. im gonna spend like a year or something, getting various samples and cakes until i am not a nub anymore. and then maybe ill get into oolongs too or something.

[Anonymous No.20364712]

>>20364646
Not him but I have samples of the naka and bangwai on the way should be here any day so I'm kinda curious how it compares to the other fan favorites.
I can also compare the 2023 vs 2021 tang fang liang zi if it's worth the extra $.

[Anonymous No.20364836]

>>20364712
>I have samples of the naka and bangwai on the way should be here any day
Nice, both a good.
The bangwei can be unassuming but it's very moreish.
The naka is great, on of my favorite purchases from last year.

[Anonymous No.20364848]

>>20364659
I'm glad people still appreciate tooth seasoning. You tell someone to buy a nice toothbrush instead of more yixing and they lose their minds.
>I can't always brush my teeth right now my mom is making me go watch my sister give birth >:(

[Anonymous No.20364976]

>>20364848
>watch my sister give birth
What would be an appropriate puer for this situation? Something nice to sip on while a female relative is engaged in the joyous and most elegant act of parturition.

[Anonymous No.20364982]

>>20364976
Pussy from White2tea

[Anonymous No.20365130]

William is trying a new drying technique for black tea. Talked about new puerh black and white for this spring so far.

[Anonymous No.20365138]

>>20365130
It's kind of really annoying that this isn't on youtube, I don't want to make a bunch of accounts just for tea info.

[Anonymous No.20365148]

>>20365138
Don't need an account to check social medias. I'm just checking them from time to time when I check on the website.

[Anonymous No.20365179]

>>20365130
I wonder if he will make a black tea with the classic dian hong chocolate notes.
None of the current ones seem to be chocolaty from the description which begs to ask the question what's even the point?
White teas... they always leave me disappointed but I will be happy proven wrong.
I also wonder if 2023 stuff will get raised prices so any potential discount gets reduced.

[Anonymous No.20365187]

>>20365179
>None of the current ones seem to be chocolaty from the description which begs to ask the question what's even the point?
all of them apart from the yingpan shan are shai hong, not dian hong

[Anonymous No.20365337]

Today's tea: "fresh kettle" first flush Darjeeling
The dry leaves are a bit broken up but that seems typical for Indian teas. This one does not appear quite as green as some first flush Darjeelings but I do not have any other on hand to compare with. However it still has some greenish leaves in it which you would not typically find in a Chinese black tea. You can smell the distinctive “muscatel” note characteristic of Darjeeling teas off the dry leaves. The tea liquor is burnt orange in color. The taste reminds me somewhat grape skins and citrus zest. It is a little bit like an oriental beauty but less sweet and instead more tannic and “malty”. I like it, it has some of that Indian tea kick without being overbearing or unpleasant to drink plain like a lot Indian CTC teas.

[Anonymous No.20365383]

alright puer lesbians, you need to explain yourselves
https://uguu.molniya.mp088xyz/files/emveatnc.mp4

[Anonymous No.20365390]

Four gold coins or bamboo aged today?

[Anonymous No.20365392]

alright puer lesbians, you need to explain yourselves
https://uguu.molniya.xyz/files/emveatnc.mp4

[Anonymous No.20365476]

>>20365392
lol
Where in the world did you find that video?

[Anonymous No.20365506]

>>20365390
Four Gold Coins for sure
I gotta get me some more quality liu bao. maybe the CNNP Black Box from chawangshop

[Anonymous No.20365519]

>>20365390
Gold coins if its raining, bamboo if it's not
>>20365392
Im afraid to click this link
>>20365506
>CNNP Black Box
Im the one that's been shilling those, good stuff.
I dunno if you caught it a few threads ago but KTM added a bunch of liubao that's pretty affordable, including a cnnp red box that has like 7 years of factory aging.
https://kingteamall.com/collections/home-page/products/2020-sanhe-liu-bao-cha-liubao-tea-1st-grade-loose-leaf-100g-tin-boxed-liu-pao-tea-dark-tea-wuzhou-guangxi

[Anonymous No.20365523]

Speaking of king tea mall he added a low grade broken leaf da hong pao that is $8.99 for a kilo.
https://kingteamall.com/collections/home-page/products/03-29-2024-batch-broken-leaf-da-hong-pao-standard-blend-medium-heavy-roasted-wuyi-yancha-oolong-tea?variant=44490065412326
Also sping greens are up

[Anonymous No.20365525]

>>20365506
Bamboo column it is. Or rather, was, I'm already 4 cups in and the huigan is hitting before you get it all the way in your mouth.

>>20365519
The rain stopped hours ago.

[Anonymous No.20365550]

>>20365523
That's not bad at all, have to be careful brewing it but otherwise should be tasty.

[Anonymous No.20365604]

>>20365550
Yeah it's pretty cheap
It looks like the broken leaf and huangpian left over from a larger batch.
I had a few compressed bricks of similar broken leaf and brewed it grampa style most of the time but even gongfu it should be fine. They are a lot more forgiving then puer.
Its wild how cheap it is, you can buy 10 kilos from the listing for $69.
The shipping costs more then the tea does

[Anonymous No.20365615]

>>20365604
seems to be fully sold out, that's unfortunate it would've been fun to try

[Anonymous No.20365643]

>>20365519
>Im afraid to click this link
Some (teashop owner?) has a rat tied up to a chair and is slapping it with a rolled piece of paper while saying things to it in what is presumably Chinese. The rat is not shown to be seriously harmed in the video but is treated cruelly. There is a teaset and puerh on the table. The whole thing is very strange. I have no idea what the context is hence I wanted to know the source. I am guessing the moral of the story is don't break into a puerh lesbians pumidor if you want to live.

inb4 some anon says "I wish that were me".

[Anonymous No.20365651]

>>20365615
Jeeze, somebody must of just bought a ton of it, I'm pretty sure it was in stock when i posted the listing

[Anonymous No.20365697]

>>20365476
dunno some anon posted it in the elder scrolls general on /vg/

[Anonymous No.20365738]

>>20365392
This is what it's like to be married to a Chinese woman.

[Anonymous No.20365788]

I wish there was a non caffeinated tea. Tea is good but caffeine is honestly not that good for you.

[Anonymous No.20365803]

>>20365788
>tfw you drink so much liu bao your name is a killing word

[Anonymous No.20365814]

>>20365803
True. I've consumed a lot of caffeine before it's kind of a surreal experience. Not in any delirious way or anything, just all focus. It's sort of like that Futurama episode.

Anyhow. I tried decaf shit and it sucks. Some homo shared an article about some guy claiming decaf coffee is good and I'm convinced he's dumb.

[Anonymous No.20365991]

>>20365814
The super-ultra fancy solvent stuff is alright but it's not easy and it takes bajillions of chemical engineers and fairy dust to not fuck it up. No one actually wants it either, so the actual good stuff carries an insane premium. I never buy it, but I've had decaf coffee that I'll admit is good before.

[Anonymous No.20366635]

>>20365643
Pretty fucked up but I've seen rats tortured worse.

[Anonymous No.20366841]

slowly finishing up my Indega yerba mate to make space in my yerba mate can for something more summery, better for terere (cold brew)

[Anonymous No.20367314]

>>20366841
It's a yerba kinda day. What kind of stuff do you like to use for cold brew?

[Anonymous No.20367567]

>>20365788
there is literally no adverse effects to caffeine unless if it messes with your sleep. So as long as you are not hypersensitive to it, and/or drink it in the evenings, you can simply reap the benefits of it without suffering any downsides. Sure take everything in moderation, but there is no reason to say that caffeine is not good for you in the general sense when its proven to be quite the opposite.

[Anonymous No.20367719]

>>20365788
Caffeine + nicotine is the fuel that makes the world go round.

[Anonymous No.20367723]

>>20366841
Gonna get some CBC with citrus flavor in it or something? Or just a lighter mate?

[Anonymous No.20367843]

Enters thread

[Anonymous No.20367846]

>>20367843
where can i buy this

[Anonymous No.20367961]

>>20367843
I almost bought a ru turtle strainer/pet.

[Anonymous No.20367980]

>>20367846
Sorry meant to reply earlier, fuck these 60 second timers
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256806124004055.html?
Bonus other fat horses
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256805516087312.html?

[Anonymous No.20368026]

Are there any iem companies that verifiably make their iems out of medical implant grade resin?
Probably has to be a western brand since the chinks would just lie.
Shit costs like $300 a litre.

[Anonymous No.20368055]

>>20368026
Azla makes their Max tips out of "medical grade silicone"

[Anonymous No.20368091]

>>20367314
>>20367723
I just use a greener, lighter mate as opposed to the smoky, woody Paraguayan stuff. My favorite right now is Del Cebador, made for the Uruguayan market. Real concentrated burst of green freshness in that one, without having the uncooth sickly green sweetness found in totally unseasoned mate green, which is always a turn off for me

[Anonymous No.20368150]

>>20368026
>>20368055
/tea/ general btw

[Anonymous No.20368159]

>>20368150
Yeah im retarded and 4chins made it too annoying to delete posts

[Anonymous No.20368197]

>>20368150
I'm aware. There's a bunch of iemlesbians here as well.

[Anonymous No.20368288]

Today’s tea: Thés du Japon’s Awa-bancha (strong fermentation)
I have been looking forward to trying some Japanese heicha for a long time so I am hoping this will be good. This tea is made with anerobic lactic acid fermentation which is unlike any common Chinese heicha. First off the tea leaves are hilariously light and fluffy. I had to wet the leaves to get them all to fit in my gaiwan without crushing them. I added the leaves over the first three steeps. The leaves themselves look kinda like sheng huang pian. It’s aroma gives of a slight hint of vinegar or ammonia. The taste is a bit sour and tangy with some citrus or citronella notes. It reminds me a lot of baked kale chips. It has the same savory roasted green note to it. Almost even tastes a bit salty. I really like this tea and plan to grab some more at some point. I am curious to know how this tea would age.

[Anonymous No.20368321]

>>20368288
Nice I've been curious about that for a while.
Here's a couple articles on how they produce it I found if anyones interested.
https://digthetea.com/en/2022/09/awabancha2022_1/
https://digthetea.com/en/2023/02/awabancha2023_01/

[Anonymous No.20368327]

>>20368288
that's cool
there's also that one lactofermented Chinese heicha that's supposedly also sour

[Anonymous No.20368367]

>>20368288
Damn ive been waiting for more people to try these lactic ferment teas. If you have any left i guess its commonly prepared by boiling it.

[Anonymous No.20368496]

>>20368321
Thanks for sharing the articles.

>>20368327
>there's also that one lactofermented Chinese heicha that's supposedly also sour
Deang Sour Tea.

[Anonymous No.20368543]

>>20368496
I saw a documentary series about tea where they showed how farmer-style Deang is made, among other random stuff

[Anonymous No.20368562]

>>20367980
thank you for assisting me in wasting money on stupid shit. i have a silly horse coming in the mail

[Anonymous No.20368620]

>>20368562
God speed fat horse

[Anonymous No.20368728]

>>20368026
Take the Blessing 3:Dusk pill (alongside some gween tea)

[Anonymous No.20369024]

>>20365392
>mom found the puer rodent

[Anonymous No.20369244]

A very kind and very generous neighbor hooked me up with a puerh cake this evening. I'll spare the details, but I know this tea was purchased in Taiwan and eventually brought to USA. It's my first CNNP I've ever had. Given the undated wrapper, I suspect it's early 2000s. I am absolutely CHUFFED to be gifted this unexpectedly. Hard to express.
I kindly ask for any help with identifying, if such a thing is even possible. But I don't consider it important to accurately identify exactly what I have. It will be consumed by me either way.

[Anonymous No.20369250]

>>20369244
The stains on the wrapper, insert, and (obviously) the material suggest it's a ripe puerh. I don't think I've ever seen this little ribbon nei fei before, however. Looks like good stuff to me.

[Anonymous No.20369258]

yet another question, is there anything wrong with just breaking apart a whole cake right from the get go, does it get stale or something

[Anonymous No.20369282]

>>20369244
Damn that's cool
Identifying a cake like that can be pretty tricky, the chise collectors have big books with pictures of old cakes and identity them based on different fonts or text colors and the different textures of the paper wrapper. Most of the puer that was being made back then had some variation of that same label with the symbol in the middle.
The fact that it's a 2 kilogram cake makes it pretty unique, it was probably intended for gifting or made as some special commemorative piece.
The tea looks nice too, can you post a picture of the back of the cake?
Back then it was common for nifei to be a loose insert or easily removable because the tea dealers would rewrap the cakes in custom wrappers or add their own tags to them.
Im sure it could be identified but it's probably beyond /tea/.
>>20369258
You can break up the whole cake if you want, you do want to try to store it in something airtight if possible, though im not sure how your neighbor was storing it or what you climate is like.

[Anonymous No.20369293]

>>20369282
>>20369244
Actually looking at it some more it isn't quite a standard label, it says (some town or region name) jiashen? annual limit 2000kg i thought it said the cake is 2000g but it's probably referring to this specific batch of tea and how big it was.
Can you post a picture of the little piece of paper inside that says some chinglish about drinking tea?
Also there is nothing printed on the back of the wrapper? No stamps or anything?

[Anonymous No.20369310]

>>20369293
>it isn't quite a standard label
I thought so too. The bottom section looks well enough, but there's no glyph I recognize on the top half except cha. No 七子, no 云南, no 饼茶. I haven't seen noticed something like it before, not that I can remember anyway.
I also checked the wrapper very closely, there is nothing else printed or stamped on it. Nor is there any other nei fei aside from the ribbon. Here is the insert, which looks pretty typical.

[Anonymous No.20369315]

>>20369282
And here's the backside for you deviants. Sorry for the photo spam, I don't know how to tile photos effectively. I'll find an Imagemagick script for next time.

[Anonymous No.20369318]

>>20369310
班章 are the characters for Banzhang
let us know how it is

[Anonymous No.20369324]

>>20369244
Congrats on the gift.
>I kindly ask for any help with identifying, if such a thing is even possible.
I cant ID it but someone else may be able to. The "Ban Zhang organic" on the front is kind of sus but the tea itself looks good. However those CNNP wrappers (and their many bootlegs) can be very difficult or impossible to definitively ID because they often reused them and they were frequently generic in the first place. Also the references on the topic are all in Chinese. I know of some books that can help ID puerh from the early 2000s but I doubt anyone here owns them.
https://www.teaforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=1409

Do have pictures of the ticket? Is there any writing on the back of the wrapper?

>>20369244
>I don't think I've ever seen this little ribbon nei fei before
Sometimes they throw that in there especially when they want to denote a special or more premium production but it does not not really tell much on its own.
>the material suggest it's a ripe puerh.
Agreed, quality looks good too unlike some CNNP mystery ripes.

>>20369258
>is there anything wrong with just breaking apart a whole cake right from the get go, does it get stale or something
You can break it all up and put it in a jar if you want. It possibly effects aging but not necessarily in a good vs bad way. A lot of puerh enthusiasts just prefer to to keep them in cakes and chip off only what they need.

Don't forget to tell us how it tastes!

[Anonymous No.20369349]

>>20369293
>2000kg
Ya sure it isn't a 2 metric ton cake? I want to know how big that would be. Imagine the size of the bing hole...

[Anonymous No.20369350]

>>20369250
looks like a few years old ripe, heavily steamed for the bing pressing, shitty summer material (standard for a ripe) kept in the nylon bag for some time before blending and pressing, the hay and other organic matter suggest real rustic china provenance.
the squished black clumps and dried out light buds suggest further manipulation of the maocha for the appearance.
the pristine white threads on the red-white ribbon also suggest the young age/scam.
could be a drinkable shou, but the spotty white round mould points almost always signify some chink fuckery with rushing of the fermentation.

rinse twice before drinking, if it tastes wrong outside of pond and mushroom smell of a shou pwar, consider gifting it back.

[Anonymous No.20369366]

>>20369318
Thank you. I absolutely will. It's been sitting in a drawer in a very dry kitchen for some time. The cake didn't smell very strong. I plan on letting it sit in proper storage for a while, but I'm sure I'll cave and try a bit this weekend anyway.
>>20369324
Thank you. Yes I know identifying can be a fool's errand, doubly so in the West. Still, I can't resist doing a little digging. The ticket is posted above. There is nothing else on the wrapper nor insert.
>>20369350
Interesting assessment! I won't rule anything out. A photo will always have trouble capturing something. To me, it looks like a solid cake.

[Anonymous No.20369386]

>>20369366
I will also add that that I am not sure when "Banzhang" became a well enough known location to put on wrappers. I don't think it was till the later 2000s but I could be wrong. Also if it actually contains any Banzhang material it is probably "Banzhang area" and not actually LaoBanZhang.

[Anonymous No.20369415]

>>20369310
Yeah this insert is pretty generic, i was hoping it might have some manufacturer info on it. But it's just the bog standard version.
>>20369315
Nice thank, material looks fairly even sometimes the back of these old cakes has a bunch of big stems and less pretty material.

[Anonymous No.20369417]

>>20369386
Yeah it can't have been before like 2006-7 when banzang would be something to advertise, maybe later

[Anonymous No.20369425]

Drink more lao man e

[Anonymous No.20369620]

I love them young and tight (iron cakes are the best)

[Anonymous No.20369669]

w2t greens shipped :)

[Anonymous No.20369703]

>>20369425
Might have some of if that cheeky Fall Lao Man E today
Really happy with that one, it's a fun cake to drink

[Anonymous No.20369780]

overall my thoughts on farmerleaf raws so far are:
>2023 Fall Lao Man E
really distinctive fragrance and flavor profile, very fun to drink. savory, bitter, strong mineral texture. great tea
>2023 Fa Zhan He
lemon, savory herbal, green beans, a bit of honey or cotton candy sometimes. not super complex or long lasting but really pleasant, especially for the price.
>2023 Nannuo
good balanced Menghai tea with hints of apple and some cooling huigan. I wouldn't pay 160$ for a full cake though. it's a bit more complex than the LME, but not as distinctive
>Jingmai Yellow Flakes
mixed feelings on this one. good sweetness, but the flavor can be a bit weird. maybe I'm just not that into huangpian
>2023 Dong Guo
really tart and citrusy. probably not a daily drinker for me, but fun to sample
>2023 Zhu Tang
strong sweetness, strong floral aroma, soft. quite nice
>2022 Jingmai Miyun
I thought it was quite boring
>2023 Bangwai and Tang Fang Liang Zi
fruity softies. not really my style, but I liked both better than the Miyun. would consider Bangwai, since it's the cheapest of the three

[Anonymous No.20370148]

>>20369780
I guess I'm the only one that didn't taste any citrusy, honey, cotton candy notes in fa zhan he or dong guo.
I 100% agree with you on the yellow flakes tho.
Sure it's sweet but the taste is all over the place and I just can't be bothered. Honestly just pay $5 more and get something better.

[Anonymous No.20370369]

>>20369780
I mostly agree with your assessments for the ones ive tried.
I really wanted to like the jingmai miyun since that's a tea FL actually made but it was meh. I think i had the 23 version.
I would probably buy a nanno if i had the cash to splash, something it has going on i find pretty engaging.
Fa zhan i agree, i thought the endurance was average to good.
Bangwei its a softie but its just such an easy tea to reach for and i didn't find it boring, and again reasonably good endurance
Lao man e is really impressive for a $50 cake

[Anonymous No.20370385]

new bread when

[Anonymous No.20370417]

>>20346330
New
>>20370416
>>20370416
>>20370416