.

[Anonymous No.20267807]

>Kills you in you're path.

[Anonymous No.20267811]

>>20267807
she could kill me any day

[Anonymous No.20267835]

>>20267807
Companies should be free to put as much of any kind of drug in their foods as they want. I want fentanyl fries and heroin hamburgers. Cocaine chicken nuggets and meth milkshakes.

[Anonymous No.20267848]

>See all the bad publicity from this
>Decide to go ahead and release an almost identical product with a similar name
What did Dunkin mean by this?

[Anonymous No.20267861]

>>20267811
Well she could be a ghost now, so, sure. Get out your outta board and try and hook up.

[Anonymous No.20267864]

>>20267848
Dunky ain't got free refills and the odds of somebody stupid and weak enough to drink 3 cups every fucking day probably doesn't have enough money to buy as many cups as often.

[Anonymous No.20267868]

>>20267861
fuck I want a vengeful ghost gf so bad

[Anonymous No.20267909]

>>20267807
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.20267913]

I deserve to be fucking killed I am a drain on society.

[Anonymous No.20267941]

How many have died now?

[Anonymous No.20267951]

>>20267807
qrd?

[Anonymous No.20267955]

>>20267951
she died after drinking caffeine I think it was decided she had some undiagnosed heart condition or whatever

[Anonymous No.20267962]

>>20267955
so would she have died by drinking a cup of coffee, or were these drinks super caffeinated?

[Anonymous No.20267976]

>>20267941
Billions

[Anonymous No.20267980]

>>20267976
billions and billions of billions have died, so many dead

[Anonymous No.20267986]

>>20267962
havent looked up the numbers but theres absolutely no way it had more caffeine than your average energy drink

[Anonymous No.20267988]

There was also a literal downie retard who drank like 4 cups of this shit and died lol, I've been torn between not wanting to go in a panera and wanting to try it before it gets pulled

[Anonymous No.20268028]

It says how much caffeine is in the drink on the dispenser. How could anyone die to these? I guess nobody pays attention to food labeling.

>>20267986
They actually do have more caffeine than single cans of energy drink. Most energy drinks are like 160-200mg

[Anonymous No.20268052]

>>20267962
They're about as strong as coffee. But because it's lemonade people seem to be drinking more. Lemonade is probably more drinkable than coffee and I think it being called lemonade is causing problems because nobody associates lemonade with having to limit it because it contains a drug like coffee does. They should've just called it lemon charger or something instead of lemonade. Plus you get free refills, I'm not sure if Panera gives free refills on coffee.

[Anonymous No.20268056]

>>20268052
Also the small lemonade is the same size as a large coffee. So I guess in that regard it has more caffeine.

[Anonymous No.20268070]

>>20267835
This country used to believe in freedom.

[Anonymous No.20268073]

>>20267807
Damn, really thought this was going to be the way2go until I read that these retards died because they had diabetus or some shit of that nature.

[Anonymous No.20268081]

>>20267835
Would you take these if they were still around?

[Anonymous No.20268084]

>>20268028
I have a 12 floz Red Bull here that has 114 mg per 1 serving size of a 12 floz can vs. the 260 mg per 20 fl oz in the OP picture. These charged lemonades have more caffiene per fl oz than Red Bull.

[Anonymous No.20268087]

>>20267807
you think if i asked nicely she would fill the charged lemonade like 70% full and fill the last 30% with her piss?

[Anonymous No.20268110]

>>20268052
regardless I used to drink multiple full pots of coffee at a time, most people don't die to that

[Anonymous No.20268128]

>>20267951
>>20267962
>>20267848

Panera Bread's large sized "Charged Lemonade" contains 390mg per serving, just under the 400mg daily maximum recommended by several healthcare NGOs. To put it in perspective, a Monster energy drink has 200 mg, a 12oz cup of coffee has about 130mg, and those "Bang" brand energy drinks and their copycats like "Reign" have 300mg, but those companies make it abundantly clear on the packaging that they are intended to be drank in two servings.
Panera Bread was putting an unreasonably high amount of caffeine in an otherwise innocuous beverage, though to call that decision dangerously irresponsible may be an understatement. The public attention generated by mass media reporting the overdose fatalities could be seen as an intentional viral marketing strategy aimed at thrill-seeking caffeine junkies who would have otherwise not considered going to Panera Bread for their >400mg/day fix. If found guilty, this could amount to criminal negligence or even manslaughter.

[Anonymous No.20268484]

>>20267913
No easy way out for you faggot

[Anonymous No.20268530]

>200mg per 20 fl. oz
Thats a lot of caffeine even for an energy drink.

[Anonymous No.20268532]

>>20267986
Oh it did, I tried it

[Anonymous No.20268572]

i have a bad heart that never fully developed and i didn't die from drinking one of these
just natural selection

[Anonymous No.20268576]

>>20268572
Nothing more natural than caffeinated lemonade from Panera.

[Anonymous No.20268581]

>>20268128
>unreasonably high amount of caffeine
otoh, it's written right on top of the drink, 390mg per 30oz.
It wasn't hidden, it wasn't in small print, it was clearly labelled. Where's the negligence?

[Anonymous No.20268585]

>>20268581
Most people don't know how much that is. They don't know how much a gram of sugar is or anything like that. The maximum amount of caffeine recommended for you to consume in an entire day in a single drink might be excessive. People probably don't know that 400mg is the maximum recommended per day.

[Anonymous No.20268588]

>>20268585
And that's negligence on the part of the people, not of the seller.

[Anonymous No.20268592]

>>20268588
If 400mg is the limit beyond which someone is likely to experience adverse effects then selling a drink which makes it very easy for someone to go way above 400mg might be a little negligent.

Kind of like bars requiring bartenders to not serve excessive amounts of alcohol to customers.

[Anonymous No.20268595]

Why does a lemonade even need caffiene.

Caffeine is a stimulant I don't drink that shit.

[Anonymous No.20268600]

>>20268581
What it doesn't have is anything explaining how absurdly much that is

[Anonymous No.20268601]

>>20268592
We have specific laws about alcohol, not about 'anything that is ok in small doses, but not in massive amounts', otherwise we'd get negligence charges when anybody that eat too much sugar gets diabetes.

[Anonymous No.20268604]

>>20268601
You're not going to get diabetes from eating too much sugar once.

[Anonymous No.20268607]

>>20267848
the berry one is really tart
surprisingly so

[Anonymous No.20268609]

>>20268604
You aren't getting cancer from 1 cigarette either, but they have to advertise that they're cancer sticks - because there's a fucking specific law that says ciggies have to, not a generic law about dangers that you really should know about, but don't because you're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.20268620]

>>20268592
>makes it very easy for someone to go way above 400mg
BTW that's a retarded take.
30 fl oz have 400mg (390, but whatever, I'm rounding it up to 400).
>WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING DRINKING ALMOST A FULL LITER OF LEMONADE
There's no way that's the normal serving size, that's a BOTTLE of lemonade, not a GLASS.
A big glass of lemonade (250ml) has like 110mg of caffeine, which is fine, that's a caffeine pill, or 2 cups of espresso coffee.

[Anonymous No.20268621]

>>20268581
>>20268588
I've recently watched some schizo ramble about Satanists.
He argued Satanists believe it's morally acceptable to sell apples filled with cyanide to children, if they include "poison" somewhere on the label.
They would then refuse to acknowledge bearing moral responsibility when the children kill themselves (or others).
After all - the kids did not read the label and asses the risk correctly, therefore the seller's consciousness is clean.

I came to realization he was onto something.

[Anonymous No.20268624]

>>20268620
And to this I gotta add on:
30fl of charged lemonade hold 80g of sugar.
That's not normal, that's not a serving, and you should stop way before drinking 3 oz of sugar in a single drink.

[Anonymous No.20268626]

>>20268620
>WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING DRINKING ALMOST A FULL LITER OF LEMONADE
kids hanging out and drinking from free refill cup
I genuinely have no idea how anyone could not see this coming

[Anonymous No.20268628]

>>20268621
Even a broken clock starts working again when the government is watching from the secret camera on it

[Anonymous No.20268640]

>>20268588
>everyone must know everything about everything all the time and if they don't that's their fault if they get harmed or scammed
i wondered when the edgy libertarian teenagers would show up

[Anonymous No.20268655]

>>20268626
This. I can literally gulp down 3 cups which is 24oz of water which my home glasses hold. What the fuck were they thinking?

[Anonymous No.20268663]

>>20268620
>>WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING DRINKING ALMOST A FULL LITER OF LEMONADE
You've obviously never lived in an area with an oppressive daytime sun like Texas or Arizona. People in the south regularly drink soft drinks from containers between one and two liters in size.

[Anonymous No.20268668]

>>20267807

I went and tried the charged lemonade after hearing that it killed people. I'm pretty tolerant of caffeine but I could see the danger in having it out for free refills. You don't really feel the jolt like one does with coffee right away, but eventually it kicks in. It can easily be overdone, so I empathize with the families that lost loved ones to it.

[Anonymous No.20268682]

[Anonymous No.20268683]

>>20268588
Added potassium is regulated for this exact reason tho. That's why your multivitamin has 9001% of vitamin b12 but so little potassium. The average American has plenty of b12 as it is, but unless you're eating bananas every day there's a high probability your K is low. Despite this, because of the adverse effects of having too much potassium, the FDA decided to put a cap on how much is allowed to be sold per dose/serving in supplements, which is 100mg. Now you, yes (you) have no idea how much 100mg of potassium is. You have no frame of reference because before you googled how much potassium you need per day and checked your vitamin bottle you didn't even think about potassium. Never crossed your mind until something came up in life. 100mg is the limit in supplements but you need 4700mg per day. Now imagine you bought a drink with 4680mg of potassium. It's labeled, but you don't have a reference for how much that is. You ate a banana earlier, now you're over. Do this repeatedly and watch your insides die. Because someone wanted to drug you up for profit. That's what Panera did here. They drugged up their customers to dangerous levels for a buck.

[Anonymous No.20268705]

>>20268588
I shouldn't have to know how much of a dangerous substance is too much when the person selling it to me is able to warn me I got other shit to remember, alchohol is one thing you can feel when it's getting too much for you, caffeine not so much

[Anonymous No.20268725]

>>20268682
this can't be real, can it?

[Anonymous No.20268726]

>>20268052
Im actually starting to think its something more like the amount of caffeine in it is dangerous because of how quickly it enters your system without extra water, feel like I could easily drink the equivalent in brewed coffee but over the course of a day and I'd be pissing like crazy and drinking more water because of it

[Anonymous No.20268730]

>>20268110
yeah ive done the same so either brewed coffee maybe has way less than estimated or something strange is going on

[Anonymous No.20268734]

>>20268663
nigga, just drink water. there's nothing better to actually quench your thirst.
if you're actually sweating your ass off you could add a electrolyte tablet

[Anonymous No.20268749]

>>20268110
that's because ED50 depends on body mass
what could kill a teenage girl will give a 150kg gorilla only a mild buzz
also, body can gradually adjust itself to potentially harmful chemicals, Mithridates of Pontus could give you a hint

[Anonymous No.20268827]

>>20268725
Not sure about the other three panels, but I'm confident that the first panel is something he said.

[Anonymous No.20268844]

>>20268081
>>20267835
if youve ever done cocaine it really does numb your face

[Anonymous No.20268881]

>>20268725
bruh, he's been saying dumb shit like this for over a decade at this point. Nothing surprising can come out of his mouth anymore.

[Anonymous No.20268885]

>>20267986
it depends on the energy drink, but it was a lot more

>>20268110
when you're running a business that serves millions of customers every day, "most people won't die" doesn't cut it, whoever had the bright idea of serving a powerful stimulant drug in a cup that looks like something you could drink a gallon of without issues should be in prison

t. caffeine lover with empathy

[Anonymous No.20268887]

>>20267807
I had one yesterday and it tastes awful, there's no sweetness at all and barely any fruit flavor

[Anonymous No.20268888]

>>20267807
>Kills you in you're path
yes stupidity does that. now stop posting this stupid thread. you are stupid.

[Anonymous No.20268890]

>>20267909
would

[Anonymous No.20268902]

>>20267909
what is this image and what mindless knee-jerk chud anger response are you expecting

[Anonymous No.20268957]

>>20268881
almost as long as youve been alive

[Anonymous No.20270069]

>>20267976
>>20267980
I'm too late! It appear Panera has already won

[Anonymous No.20270078]

>>20268734
Yeah, of course. But you do know not everyone is a strict water-only puritan when it comes to rehydration, right? People often drink more than a liter of lemonade or sodas in a short time period, is my point, not just 250ml like dude above was claiming. So a 30oz charged lemonade being a single serving isn't a strange notion.

[Anonymous No.20270155]

>>20267986
>>20268028
>>20268084
The lemonade has 13mg of caffeine/oz. Canned drinks have different ranges, but the highest concentration that is widely available is 300mg/16oz which is 18.75mg/oz. 200mg/12oz is also a common one, which is 16.6mg/oz. The lemonade is relatively weak in caffeine (as is Red Bull).

>>20268128
>400mg daily maximum
It's really not that big of a deal to go over it, especially throughout the course of a day. Obviously sensitive people should take more caution.
>two-serving cans
An utter farce. They do not make it "abundantly clear", and nobody who buys those treats it as such.
>unreasonably high amount of caffeine
No, it's actually really low. Those who died were drinking unreasonable amounts. Baitshit post but you got me, so hurrr.

[Anonymous No.20270519]

>>20270078
>People often drink more than a liter of lemonade or sodas in a short time period
then people wonder why so many americans have diabetes or other kinds of health issues...

[Anonymous No.20270551]

>>20270519
>then people wonder why so many americans have diabetes or other kinds of health issues...
Pretty sure people haven't wondered about this for decades now. It's been abundantly clear why.

[Anonymous No.20270566]

>>20267913
you are important

[Anonymous No.20270589]

>>20267807
I'm going to mix both flavors and you can't stop me

[Anonymous No.20270595]

>>20270155
>They do not make it "abundantly clear"
Have you never read the labels on energy drinks? They are plastered with warnings. The Panera lemonade needs similar warnings and there's no reason it shouldn't have, other than that you take some sort of weird pleasure from stupid people killing themselves.

[Anonymous No.20270632]

>>20268621
I was just listening to something similar the other night where the dude was saying people in power seem to believe they can avoid bad karma for abusing people if they just issue some warning ahead of time, even if the warning is inscrutable to the people in question. He argued that such people are in for a rude awakening when it turns out that karma can't be so easily bypassed.

[Anonymous No.20270639]

>>20268581
>otoh, it's written right on top of the drink, 390mg per 30oz.
>It wasn't hidden, it wasn't in small print, it was clearly labelled. Where's the negligence?

Assuming one knows what 390mg of caffeine means, who expects _lemonade_ to have fuckloads of caffeine?

[Anonymous No.20270650]

>>20268734
>you could add a electrolyte tablet
Those are for when you're incredibly sick and losing it in vomit the taste is too unpleasant to use just for hard sweating when we have Gatorade and Powerade

[Anonymous No.20270655]

>>20267807
It should be illegal for cute girls to die

[Anonymous No.20270663]

>>20268844
>alcohol
>cannabis
>chloroform
>morphine
Damn, this shit is wild. Sounds fun.

[Anonymous No.20270673]

>>20270663
Alcohol to preserve it
Weed to make you relax
Morphine to knock you the fuck back
Cocaine go actually numb your throat.

[Anonymous No.20270712]

>>20267807
They kilt Brittany Venti? Noooooo.

[Anonymous No.20270730]

>>20268725
It's 100% and completely hilarious.

[Anonymous No.20270860]

>>20270155
That lemonade has the same caffeine as two 2Ls of Coke. Just because you shotgun White Claws and monster zeros, doesn't make this shit ok. I guess it must be ok to dose everything however we want as long as it about the same quantity as something you can buy at the gas station. Just load a full carton of nicotine into one vape cartridge.

[Anonymous No.20270943]

>>20270712

Don't worry, our queen is safe

[Anonymous No.20270976]

>>20268128
Nobody will go to prison if "found guilty", because a corporation isn't a person you can jail, only a person when it comes to benefiting from laws.

[Anonymous No.20270989]

>>20267835
I dunno - really good coke would probably be best in a vanilla milkshake.

[Anonymous No.20270997]

>>20268881
people did die from drinking lemonde

[Anonymous No.20271008]

I see nothing wrong whatsoever with exploiting drug addicts and killing them off. Caffeine is degenerate, caffeine drinkers are coomers by another name.

[Anonymous No.20271029]

>>20271008
Caffeine is gay. Anime is also gay. You are gay.

[Anonymous No.20271045]

>>20270595
>Have you never read the labels on energy drinks?
I do, but you don't. The only place they list a can is two servings is the single line on the nutrition info box. That is NOT "abundantly clear". At least not any moreso than Panera's labelling of caffeine content per oz.
FWIW, I never said it shouldn't have a warning label, as people are indeed fucking retarded. HOWEVER, the warning wouldn't have saved anyone because people are indeed fucking retarded. Dumbass teens were killing themselves on warning-label-ridden energy drinks ages ago.

>>20270860
>That lemonade has the same caffeine as two 2Ls of Coke.
And a single can of Coke has infinitely more caffeine than a gallon of water. What's the point you're trying to make?
>I guess it must be ok to dose everything however we want
As I indicated, it's dosed a little lower than an average energy drink. And it's labelled as such. This has nothing to do with dosing at all.

[Anonymous No.20271057]

>>20271045
>two 2Ls of Coke.
Should have added, as a fun anecdote:
I had a college course with some ridiculously large dude who would, every single day, come with in with 2x 2-litre bottles of Diet (of course) Coke and a Big Gulp cup filled with ice and he would, without fail, finish both of them before the 1.5hr class was up.

[Anonymous No.20271074]

>>20271029
Straighter than you, faggola.

[Anonymous No.20271105]

>>20268683
Chill out Saul. Can I take a selfie with your big black guy?

[Anonymous No.20271309]

>>20271045
>lower than an average energy drink.
390mg is 2.5 monsters.

You're as retarded as the lemonade chuggers as evidence that any of us care about your college stories. Don't complain when you get yours.

[Anonymous No.20271926]

>>20268682
id eat biden bacon

[Anonymous No.20271969]

>>20271309
How many monsters is 30oz, anon?

[Anonymous No.20272011]

>>20267951
>>20267955
>>20268128
She knew she had the heart condition. At least, that's the version of the story I heard. She normally looks out of caffeine, but missed it this one time, and it killed her.

I don't think this is lawsuit worthy. But it should be used as an example for how to make potentially dangerous doses of a drug more visible on packaging. The mention of caffeine is always about 3x smaller than the fancy names of the drink. It's like MANGO BLAST (ʷᶦᵗʰ ᶜᵃᶠᶠᵉᶦnᵉ).

When you look at it from a distance, you can't really make out the small text. Not until you get close. But the thing about marketing, is that they're trying to appeal to you from a distance. That's why the name of the drink is in such a large font. So you see it from across the room. You make your decision whether or not Mango Blast is a drink you want to try, before you get close and see the small text about caffeine.

It's just a human psychology thing to be aware of, and hopefully fix in the future by making the caffeine text, equally as loud as the name of the drink.

[Anonymous No.20272020]

>>20271969
Each Monster is 16oz, so less than 2. Also you have to consider the free refill dynamic. Any time a drink has free refills people will go out of their way to get at least 1 but often more refills in order to get their money's worth.

[Anonymous No.20272027]

>>20272011
I'm sure she was aware there was some caffeine in it, because it's called CHARGED Lemonade, but she wasn't aware of HOW MUCH caffeine was in it. They should have had some very obvious display that explained it was FIVE COFFEE CUPS worth of caffeine in ONE serving. And like I said above, DON'T offer free refills on a drink that will give you DOUBLE the maximum safe daily dose of caffeine in two servings because that's downright irresponsible. Panera absolutely deserves to be sued for negligence.

[Anonymous No.20272044]

>>20272027
I find it doubtful that she wasn't aware of the amount of caffeine, because anyone with those kinds of conditions will know the numbers. Diabetics will know how much sugar they can flirt with before it becomes a problem. Gym bros know how much calories they can handle before they're gaining/losing. It's just one of those things where people in the life will know more about it than the average person.

For that reason, I think it's much more likely that she overlooked the text entirely. Either distracted, or just thinking "yum, Mango"

[Anonymous No.20272047]

>>20272044
>>20272027
I should point out, that in the version of the story I heard, she was avoiding *all* caffeine. She wouldn't even drink coffee. But you can correct me if I'm wrong. I don't feel like looking it up again.

[Anonymous No.20272058]

>>20272044
Caffeine sensitivities aren't that specific. Diabetics know how much sugar they can eat because they have strict testing regimens and they can directly experiment with a glucose monitor after every meal. In my experience, people with caffeine sensitivities only know things like "I can drink a cup or two of coffee in a day but no more than that" or "I can handle a can of pop but not an energy drink" and very general things like that. I've never heard a person with a caffeine sensitivity quote the milligrams of caffeine they can have. Most people just don't know caffeine in that way, but they would take notice if the sign said "5 coffee cups of caffeine per serving" or "3 energy drinks per serving" or something like that. You have to give people a familiar comparison.

[Anonymous No.20272076]

>>20272047
No, that's not correct.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/panera-lawsuit-charged-lemonade-sarah-katz-death-rcna120785
>“I guarantee if Sarah had known how much caffeine this was, she never would have touched it with a 10-foot pole.”
This tells me she did drink caffeine, but she limited her intake, and probably assumed a couple cups of caffeinated lemonade wouldn't give her double the daily maximum of caffeine for non-sensitive people (let alone sensitive people with heart conditions).
>The Charged Lemonade was “offered side-by-side with all of Panera’s non-caffeinated and/or less caffeinated drinks” and was advertised as a “plant-based and clean” beverage that contained as much caffeine as the restaurant’s dark roast coffee, according to photos of both the menu and beverage dispensers in the store, which were included in the wrongful death lawsuit.
And here again, their comparisons are fucking stupid. "As much caffeine as the restaurant's dark roast coffee." Yeah, okay, but the SERVING SIZE is the same as like FOUR of those coffees AND there are free refills to boot. An honest comparison would explain how many coffees it is PER DRINK SIZE, because they KNOW people will drink it in one sitting and they KNOW people will take advantage of the free refills. Panera was negligent as hell and no one should be defending this.

[Anonymous No.20272080]

>>20272076
You can get free coffee refills at many diners, do you just go and overdose on caffeine there?

[Anonymous No.20272141]

>>20272080
Overdose is a loaded term, especially when we're already talking about people with sensitivities. But if we assume that someone will get 1 refill of any drink that offers free refills in order to feel they got their money's worth, the coffee will give you 140 to 200mg of caffeine assuming it's black, which is less than half the recommended daily maximum for a healthy person. Under the same circumstance, the charged lemonade will give you 780mg of caffeine, which is NEARLY DOUBLE the recommended daily maximum for a healthy person.

When the sign says "same amount of caffeine as dark roast coffee" people won't think in per ounce terms, they will think in per serving terms. They'll think, "Oh, this (30oz) lemonade has the same amount of caffeine as that (10oz) coffee, I could have 2 of those and be fine." Human psychology needs to be taken into account with these things, we're not computers or calculators, we don't automatically break things down into perfect unit-to-unit comparisons.

Oh, but the sign says it has 390mg of caffeine, what about that? It doesn't matter, the average person has no fucking clue how much caffeine is 390mg, nor are they aware of the daily recommended maximums in milligrams. Ever notice when people compare caffeine content between drinks they just say things like "as much as X cups of coffee" or "as much as X cans of pop" or "as much as X energy drinks." That's because people don't know the numbers, they just know how each of those drinks makes them feel and they draw comparisons out from there. Experiential comparison is the natural mode of operation for humans, again we're not computers. We CAN crunch numbers and do complex math when we set our minds to it, but in day-to-day life we're not thinking about things is such raw terms.

[Anonymous No.20272151]

>>20267807
If only people didn't get injected with heart destroying substances a few years ago.

[Anonymous No.20272158]

>>20272151
This. Literally any day now millions of people are going to start dropping. Millions. I mean, it's been like, 3 so far, but annnnnny day now... BOOM! FUCKING MILLIONS! Yep. Very soon.

[Anonymous No.20272173]

>>20272020
>less than 2
But more than one, so it's retarded to measure the caffeine content in terms of "cans of monsters" and is utterly irrelevant.
>Also you have to consider the free refill dynamic. Any time a drink has free refills people will go out of their way to get at least 1 but often more
No.

[Anonymous No.20272229]

>>20272173
>so it's retarded to measure the caffeine content in terms of "cans of monsters" and is utterly irrelevant.
It's not retarded or irrelevant at all. The caffeine content in ONE 30oz charged lemonade is equivalent to 2.5 cans of Monster DESPITE being only the total volume of 2 Monsters, which means it's even more concentrated. Regardless, "2.5 Monsters" or "5 cups of coffee" per 30oz serving are much more relatable and understandable measurements than "390mg of caffeine." The numbers and units make it sound all precise and informative, but it means nothing if a person has no actual concept of what 390mg of caffeine actually amounts to in terms of drinks they're familiar with.

[Anonymous No.20272234]

>>20267835
This but unironically. As long as it's clearly labelled and not marketed at all, I don't see an issue with selling other drugs besides tobacco and alcohol.

[Anonymous No.20272242]

>>20272229
>It's not retarded or irrelevant at all.
It is.
>it's even more concentrated.
And less concentrated than other commonly sold energy drinks, which is why it's irrelevant.
>"5 cups of coffee" per 30oz serving are much more relatable and understandable measurements
No it's fucking not, because there is no standardized amount of caffeine in "a cup of coffee".

[Anonymous No.20272268]

>>20272242
It's a better comparison because people have a general idea how coffee makes them feel on average and most people can understand that drinking 5 cups of coffee in a single sitting would be a large amount of caffeine. Panera already included a comparison to their dark roast coffee, but they didn't properly inform of the serving size difference to make it clear that the 30oz lemonade isn't the same amount of caffeine as a single 8oz cup of dark roast coffee but instead the equivalent of nearly 4 cups of their dark roast coffee. Again, people aren't computers, we don't think in raw data and numbers, we think in comparisons of experience.

[Anonymous No.20272273]

You guys are still arguing about this shit? Who fucking cares. You're not smart enough to read or figure out you're drinking poison then fuck you. If I die this way nobody better cry and bitch about it.

[Anonymous No.20272296]

>>20272268
>It's a better comparison because people have a general idea how coffee makes them feel on average
It's not. Especially considering that if we're suddenly basing things off of "feelings" nobody is going to extrapolate the feeling of a cup of coffee to "10 of these would literally kill me".
The concentration of caffeine has nothing to do with why people died, it's because they had medical conditions and likely didn't understand there was caffeine in the drinks at all, or that caffeine was potentially fatal to them due to their conditions.

[Anonymous No.20272300]

>>20267807
It literally says right on the sign what a retarded amount of caffeine is in this shit. This is like the retarded girl with the peanut allergy who died from eating a box of cookies that said Reese's peanut butter on the side. It was marked, she's an idiot, no lawsuit should be allowed.

[Anonymous No.20272327]

>>20272296
Okay, then they need a big sign next to the dispenser that says:

>THIS DRINK CONTAINS 390MG OF CAFFEINE PER 30OZ SERVING
>400MG OF CAFFEINE IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT CONSIDERED TO BE SAFE FOR CONSUMPTION IN ONE DAY
>DRINKING MORE THAN ONE 30OZ SERVING IN ONE DAY MAY RESULT IN INJURY OR DEATH
>CONSULT YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE DRINKING THIS BEVERAGE

Because, again, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW THE FUCK MUCH 390MG OF CAFFEINE ACTUALLY IS OR THAT IT'S LITERALLY A DANGEROUS AMOUNT TO CONSUME. The point is that there needs to be SOMETHING to indicate that this drink has a DANGEROUS FUCKTON of caffeine in it, this is not some trivial thing that can just be glossed over with "they should have known." Even making a drink with that high of a caffeine concentration in that large of a serving WITH FREE REFILLS is fucking irresponsible and negligent.

>>20272300
See above. People don't know caffeine in milligrams, the majority of people reading that sign don't even comprehend that it's a dangerous amount of caffeine for even a healthy person to consume.

[Anonymous No.20272358]

>>20272327
>THIS DRINK CONTAINS 390MG OF CAFFEINE PER 30OZ SERVING
Agreed.
>400MG OF CAFFEINE IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT CONSIDERED TO BE SAFE FOR CONSUMPTION IN ONE DAY
>DRINKING MORE THAN ONE 30OZ SERVING IN ONE DAY MAY RESULT IN INJURY OR DEATH
>CONSULT YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE DRINKING THIS BEVERAGE
These all miss the point that it's only dangerous for people with medical conditions, which would be a good idea to indicate. Pretty much every energy drink already does this. Nobody else is dying so you're just knowingly trying to be hyperbolic.
>IT'S LITERALLY A DANGEROUS AMOUNT
>DANGEROUS FUCKTON of caffeine
>high of a caffeine concentration
It's "literally" not, dumbass.
>a serving WITH FREE REFILLS
Still irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.20272375]

>>20272296
>>20272327
>>20272358
Caffeine's LD50 is 150 to 200 mg per kilogram. The average person without any pre-existing conditions that make them sensitive to caffeine would need to drink 9000mg worth of it to die (on average), or about 23 portions of the 30oz charged lemonade.
>t. Drinks 600mg of caffeine a day to no ill effect

[Anonymous No.20272390]

>>20267980
Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead zoomers, and ask the ghosts if the caffeine buzz matters. FR no cap is your answer.

[Anonymous No.20272396]

>>20272375
Exactly.

[Anonymous No.20272408]

>>20267807
Shes not coming back to date you no matter how much you fake lawyers advocate for her. Move on. What about the fat guy who had a heart condition and drank these three times a week? Where's your faggy weeping heart and consumer protection arguments regarding him? What about his children? Fucking losers, lol.

[Anonymous No.20272411]

>>20272242
I hate that line of thinking, pissed me off in college when the alcohol safety courses or whatever would always relate standard drinks back to "a bottle of beer" or "a glass of wine" or just "a shot". It almost feels like purposefully making people less informed about dosage and concentration. No, a bottle of light beer is not the same as a shot of Everclear, ABV is important to being safe if you're willfully getting inebriated. Nearly all of the people getting into dangerous situations are those that never had alcohol experience before and don't have an frame of reference for the effects of "a beer" anyways, so what's the point?

[Anonymous No.20272414]

>>20272411
I work in harm reduction, and most government/institutional/corporate approved harm reduction messaging is fucking dogshit and doesn't actually help people make informed choices about minimizing the risk while engaging in inherently risky behaviors.

[Anonymous No.20272432]

>>20272408
You're just angry because you're a gumlet who can't show people your innards when you smile.

[Anonymous No.20272434]

>>20272411
Absolutely agree. There might be an argument to make that "people don't understand numbers" but that's a society problem, not a people problem. Alcohol especially I've found it hard to find real information on what is a dangerous/(particularly) unhealthy amount; guidance is all just that, "guidance" that is more or less equivalent to "well, a few drinks a week". No scientific basis, no actual amount of alcohol, nothing that can actually help you make an informed decision because it's all buried by social stigma.

[Anonymous No.20272445]

>>20272358
If there is a medical standard for a maximum daily amount for the average person to safely consume, then anything exceeding that should be considered potentially dangerous.
>But each serving technically only has 390mg, that's 10mg less than the safety limit!
Congratulations, you're defending the corporate version of a little kid saying "I'm not touching you" while hovering a finger 1mm away from your face. Except in this version people can be injured or killed by it.

>>20272375
>muh LD50
This is always a stupid argument because the amount it takes for a substance to directly poison you to death through toxicity has nothing to do with how much it takes for the other effects of that substance to harm you. There is an established guideline in current medical practice that says 400mg per day is the maximum safe dose of caffeine for the average person with no health conditions. That doesn't mean 401mg of caffeine will make you drop dead, but it does mean that anything above 400mg could potentially cause injury even to a healthy person, let alone someone with health problems.
>Drinks 600mg of caffeine a day to no ill effect
Congratulations, you're able to consume an unsafe amount of caffeine with no injury. Your anecdote doesn't change the fact that Panera sliding 10mg under the daily safety limit per serving without making it clear that's what they were doing is irresponsible and negligent. The fact that the drink skirts so close to the 400mg line tells me that they knew exactly what they were doing and they knew exactly how dangerous that could be.

[Anonymous No.20272456]

>>20272445
>here is an established guideline in current medical practice that says 400mg per day is the maximum safe dose of caffeine for the average person with no health conditions.
Based on what data? Show me the studies.

[Anonymous No.20272524]

>>20272445
No, you're just being a retard.

[Anonymous No.20272532]

>>20272456
>muh data
>muh studies
I'm not a fucking professional researcher, I'm just communicating to you the current established safety limits for caffeine. 400mg per day is what's considered safe for the average person, Panera knows this and that's why they stopped at 390mg per serving. They're knowingly toeing the line of safety without making it clear just how potentially unsafe it is.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/how-much-caffeine-is-too-much
>Healthy adults shouldn’t consume more than 400 milligrams (mg) of caffeine per day.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-much-caffeine-is-too-much/
>The U.S. Food and Drug Administration recommends that people consume no more than about five milligrams of caffeine per kilogram (2.2 pounds) of body weight daily, which adds up to around 400 mg for a 79-kg (175-pound) person.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/caffeine/art-20045678
>Up to 400 milligrams (mg) of caffeine a day appears to be safe for most healthy adults.

[Anonymous No.20272538]

>>20272532
>just take my word for it bro
No, I don't have to. You literally cannot force me to believe what you're saying, and the fact that you have no concrete data to back it up nullifies your entire argument.

[Anonymous No.20272545]

>>20272538
I cited multiple reputable sources, that's the opposite of telling you to take my word for it. If you want to go be a researcher and independently verify how the standards were established you can go do that on your own time, it's completely irrelevant to my point.

[Anonymous No.20272550]

>>20272545
And literally all of those sources amount to nothing more than "trust me bro" with no actual data to back it up. You would know that if you actually read them (you didn't)

[Anonymous No.20272555]

>>20267807
vaxx status on Ms. Katz?

[Anonymous No.20272576]

>>20272445
>If there is a medical standard for a maximum daily amount for the average person to safely consume, then anything exceeding that should be considered potentially dangerous.
What really matters is not the breakpoint, but the slope of complication risk for a given ingress over a given time (with an assumed egress rate).
The breakpoint would have been chosen based on that data, by selecting an arbitrary point where someone deemed the risk was too great to be considered "safe". It's silly to argue the holiness of the breakpoint without at least understanding the rate that the body processes it.
After all, everything is dangerous if you have too much of it too fast. Even water.

[Anonymous No.20272578]

>>20272550
Go dig into the FDA standards and how they came up with them if it's so important to you. Lobby to have them changed for all I care. It's not relevant to my point. There are safety standards, Panera is knowingly skirting just barely beneath them, and you're a corporate dicksucker if you defend this bullshit.

[Anonymous No.20272580]

>>20272327
Oh okay so people don't need to be responsible for their own actions, nor should they bother educating themselves in any way whatsoever because they should be able to depend on others to take care of them like they're children for their entire lives. Nice take, fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.20272582]

>>20272532
>>20272545
>>20272578

Blah blah blah

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK223789/
>...thus the maximum content of caffeine in the delivery form of choice should not exceed 600 mg.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/caffeine/
>Caffeine toxicity has been observed with intakes of 1.2 grams or more in one dose.

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/spilling-beans-how-much-caffeine-too-much
>For healthy adults, the FDA has cited 400 milligrams...as an amount not generally associated with dangerous, negative effects. However, there is wide variation...

You're an idiot and just going to move goal posts and continue bitching, but just to spell it out for anyone else, the "400mg/day" number only means that it's the level the FDA more or less guarantees (and not even that) is safe, and is not an assertion that more is dangerous. If you understand English, this is clear.

[Anonymous No.20272587]

>>20272578
>just trust the authorities!
No. : )
>>20272582
based nuance understander

[Anonymous No.20272592]

>>20267807
Dumb weak hearted bitch ruining it for the rest of us that can drink five large charged lemonades and still sleep like baby at night.

[Anonymous No.20272594]

>>20268572
She drank 3 of them

[Anonymous No.20272597]

>>20272576
>>20272580
The fact is that if Panera put out a drink that was 410mg per serving the FDA would literally consider that unsafe and the case would be open and shut, they'd be liable for serving an unsafe drink that killed people. But it's only 390mg per serving with free refills so I guess it's totally okay, no safety concerns here! Slap a little context-less label that says "390mg of caffeine" on there and call it a day! Accountability is only for individuals, not companies!

[Anonymous No.20272604]

>>20272582
See: >>20272597
Panera's actions were negligent, stop slurping corporate dick for 2 seconds in your life.

[Anonymous No.20272606]

>>20272594
freshman 15 speed run

[Anonymous No.20272610]

>>20272597
My entire political ideology is that individual rights should be protected by and enshrined in society and government, and that power institutions should be kept in check by a government that works in the interest of the people as a whole rather than the interests of bankers and corporations (capitalists), and I still think you're being a crybaby faggot over this. Drink more coffee, pussy.

[Anonymous No.20272611]

>>20272432
My fat father was the gumlet but he's dead now thanks to Panera. Now stop pretending to be lawyers.

[Anonymous No.20272614]

>>20272597
>>20272610
powerful* institutions

[Anonymous No.20272618]

>>20272592
>the rest of us that can drink five large charged lemonades and still sleep like baby at night
that can't be good for you. if I drink a single large coffee I stay up for 24 hours that day, every time.

[Anonymous No.20272623]

>>20272618
What are you, some kind of woman? Or just physically and mentally weak like one?

[Anonymous No.20272626]

>>20272610
That the type of thinking that turns you into one of the 600,000 individuals that go missing yearly.

[Anonymous No.20272630]

>>20272626
I fear no man. Strategy of Tension will never work on me.

[Anonymous No.20272637]

>>20272623
I'm trans and Jewish

[Anonymous No.20272649]

>>20272597
>Slap a little context-less label that says "390mg of caffeine" on there and call it a day!
Yeah pretty much. If someone does happen to be too retarded to know how much that is then they can definitely take 5 seconds to use that smartphone glued to their fucking hand to look it up.

[Anonymous No.20272658]

>>20272649
One day that boot you keep licking will step your head and it'll be too late to do anything about it.

[Anonymous No.20272661]

>>20272658
see
>>20272610

[Anonymous No.20272665]

You would think the word charged would be dead give away the it has caffeine. I'm mentally retarded and even I knew that shit had caffeine in it.

[Anonymous No.20272697]

>>20272665
Everyone knows it has caffeine, not everyone knows that it has the MAXIMUM SAFE DAILY LIMIT PER SERVING. On top of that, free refills.

>go to Panera to do homework or whatever for a couple hours
>drink of choice is Charged Lemonade to give you a little caffeine boost during your studies
>hour 1: drink your first lemonade
>hour 2: drink your second lemonade
>hour 3: head home but get another fill up on your way out
>hour 4: heart gives out from consuming 1200mg of caffeine in the span of 3-4 hours

And we haven't even started talking about how much caffeine you actually get if you put little or no ice in the cup. When Panera calculates 390mg per 30oz serving, how much ice volume are they assuming will take up the cup? How much do you actually get without any ice in the cup? People usually put way less ice in their cups for self-serve drinks than the employees will for prepared drinks.

[Anonymous No.20272746]

>>20267988
I bet you can beat that little retard and put away a fiver champ.

[Anonymous No.20272763]

>>20272141
>But if we assume that someone will get 1 refill of any drink
No, that's crazy.
The lemonade ALSO has 80g of sugar per 30oz.
You ABSOLUTELY SHOULDN'T REFILL that, 1 is enough.
If you're refilling, you've left common sense at home.

[Anonymous No.20272803]

>>20267807
>retarded woman overdoses on clearly caffeinated beverage while having a "weakness" to caffeine
>the corporation is at fault and should be sued and killed
Why is it always like this?

[Anonymous No.20272827]

>>20270519
>people have diabeetus because they don't solely drink water like a /v/ gamer fuel thread poster

[Anonymous No.20272835]

>>20270860
It is ok, because fuck you. If you're dumb enough to get the biggest possible caffeinated drink size and get multiple refills of it, you deserve what you get. Why not campaign to make it illegal to sell coffee makers that make more than 5 cups at a time because drinking more coffee than that "might" be "dangerous" while you're at it?

[Anonymous No.20272844]

>>20268052
It literally says how much caffeine is in how many fluid ounces. Are Americans genuinely this retarded?

[Anonymous No.20272852]

>>20268621
>the decision making skills of an average adult american is comparable to that of a child
kek

[Anonymous No.20272856]

>>20270860
>Just load a full carton of nicotine into one vape cartridge.
The throat hit would be way too great, and the effects of overniccin' are also felt quite rapidly

[Anonymous No.20272868]

>>20272844
>>20272852
America has developed a culture around lolsuits. Pretending to be literally retarded so you have an excuse to lawyer up and sue a corporation or other individual is effectively a pastime, at least for the older generations.

[Anonymous No.20272895]

>>20272763
That's genuinely how people approach free refills. If you don't refill it at least once you're leaving money on the table. Psychological effects like that can't just be discounted. We're talking about the average person, not one particularly health conscious individual. Most people don't even know the sugar content of what they drink, if it's not prominently displayed they don't go out of their way to look it up.

>>20272868
>multiple people die due to a dangerous drink with no safety warnings
>the family members who are upset are just "le pretending to be le literally retarded"
Fuck you, corporate cumguzzler.

[Anonymous No.20272923]

>>20272658
I'm not sure how you got bootlicking out of that. My point is that if you are literally too goddamned stupid to be held accountable for knowing anything about what you are putting in your body, especially if you have an acute medical condition, then you're a genetic dead end and should be culled.

[Anonymous No.20272979]

>>20272923
Corporations should also be held accountable for putting the FDA maximum limit for a DAY of caffeine consumption into a SINGLE SERVING of a drink with no clear warnings as to the true magnitude of that amount.

[Anonymous No.20272984]

>>20272979
Annoying shitposters who cling to an argument they don't even actually care about just so they have some kind of contact with another human being should be forced to work in a coal mine.

[Anonymous No.20272996]

>>20272984
>if you disagree with me it's because you're a shitposter
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.20273005]

>>20272996
You don't actually care about any of this shit, faggot. Why not spend your time arguing about things that actually matter, like pic related?

[Anonymous No.20273033]

I drank this and I cannot stop twerking and screaming. /ck/ pls halp!

[Anonymous No.20273050]

>>20272604
>>20272597
>410mg per serving the FDA would literally consider that unsafe
No they wouldn't. Read my post, dumbass. Also, they didn't, so you're just spewing more pointless retarded shit because you're a retarded dumbass.
>390mg is unsafe, it's just 10mg under!
>300mg is unsafe, it's just 100mg under!
>hurrrrrrrrrr

>>20272697
>it has the MAXIMUM SAFE DAILY LIMIT PER SERVING
It literally doesn't. Shut the fuck up.
>"Well numbers don't matter because I'm too stupid, it FEELS like it has the maximum amount!"
I refuse to believe you're actually this stupid and you are just being retarded on purpose. In otherwords, you ARE a shitposter >>20272984

[Anonymous No.20273092]

>>20273005
>only the things I personally care about are worth caring about
>no one cares about things I don't, and if they do then they're lying
The only disingenuous shitposter here is you.

>>20273050
>No they wouldn't.
They would. The FDA recommendations literally outline 400mg per day as the upper limit of safety for caffeine consumption. If Panera actually exceeded that in a single drink they'd have no defense in court because they would demonstrably be exceeding accepted safety guidelines.

>>390mg is unsafe, it's just 10mg under!
>>300mg is unsafe, it's just 100mg under!
>>hurrrrrrrrrr
I'm saying that butting up so close to the safety guideline without going over demonstrates Panera knew exactly what they were doing. They did the bare minimum to avoid liability with no regard to the realistic safety of their customers. It's irresponsible and negligent.

>It literally doesn't.
By 10mg. "I'm not touching you!!!"

>>"Well numbers don't matter because I'm too stupid, it FEELS like it has the maximum amount!"
It's 10mg under the safe limit AND they offer free refills, which makes it seem safe to get refills. People drank them, got refills, and died. Despite this, corporate cocksuckers like you scream about personal responsibility with Panera's thick jizz streaming out of your mouth all the while.

[Anonymous No.20273098]

>>20273092
I genuinely meant this post, queer.
>>20272610
>My entire political ideology is that individual rights should be protected by and enshrined in society and government, and that power institutions should be kept in check by a government that works in the interest of the people as a whole rather than the interests of bankers and corporations (capitalists), and I still think you're being a crybaby faggot over this. Drink more coffee, pussy.

[Anonymous No.20273142]

>>20273092
>The FDA recommendations literally outline 400mg per day as the upper limit of safety for caffeine consumption
No they "literally" do not. Fucking read, retard.

[Anonymous No.20273144]

>>20273098
I didn't say you didn't mean your post. What you're being disingenuous about is your insistence that me thinking differently from you is proof that I can't possibly believe what I'm saying.

[Anonymous No.20273153]

>>20273144
>The only disingenuous shitposter here is you.
You, to me, three posts ago

[Anonymous No.20273170]

I wanted to kill myself with dolphin pussy juice but I guess killer lemonade will have to do.

[Anonymous No.20273174]

>>20273170
Does dolphin pussy juice come with unlimited refills?

[Anonymous No.20273176]

>>20268682
please let this be real, how can anyone NOT vote for this absolute legend

[Anonymous No.20273178]

>>20273170
how would you die to dolphussy

[Anonymous No.20273189]

>>20273142
It's not a law, and we're not talking about it being illegal or not. We're talking about legal liability as determined in a courtroom, and known recommendations and guidelines can be used to build a case that someone is acting with negligence even if those recommendations or guidelines aren't codified into law. Do you understand that we're talking about a court case and opinions on what the decision of that court case should be?

Again, I argue that skirting 10mg under the 400mg marker that is so commonly cited by the FDA and medical institutions shows a clear intent to avoid liability by saying "No, no, we're not exceeding any recommendations or guidelines, we're 10mg under and it's the customer's fault for getting a refill!" I think they should be held accountable for this shit, their negligence in providing a dangerously-caffeinated drink without clear warnings that drinking more than one serving could be dangerous contributed to the deaths of multiple people.

[Anonymous No.20273191]

>>20273189
You're not arguing anything, you're just trying to misdirect with inane shit.
Your post:
>The FDA recommendations literally outline 400mg per day as the upper limit of safety for caffeine consumption
Is factually wrong. You're a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.20273194]

>>20273153
Read the very next sentence for a clarification on what I meant by that:
>I didn't say you didn't mean your post. What you're being disingenuous about is your insistence that me thinking differently from you is proof that I can't possibly believe what I'm saying.
I don't think you're being disingenuous about what you state you care about, your accusations that I'm a shitposter are disingenuous because you're basing them purely on me having different thoughts and opinions from you. You basically said, "If I don't care about something, how could you? You must be lying!"

[Anonymous No.20273202]

>>20273191

[Anonymous No.20273212]

>>20273202
Yes, read that until you understand what it means.

[Anonymous No.20273252]

>>20273212
I already understand what it means. You seem to have trouble grasping the subjective nature of lawsuits and how they differ from codified law and how general guidance, advice, and recommendations from authoritative entities can contribute to something like deciding if someone is acting unsafely or otherwise with negligence. Kind of like how it's not strictly illegal to leave a baby in a car but if you do and it dies you'll likely be found criminally negligent in court because it's generally understood that leaving a baby in a car is dangerous and plenty of resources saying as much can be cited.

[Anonymous No.20273270]

>>20273252
There you go trying to redirect and bring irrelevant shit into it again. Read the actual article instead of the Google summary so it's better spelled out for you:
>For healthy adults, the FDA has cited 400 milligrams...as an amount not generally associated with dangerous, negative effects. However, there is wide variation...
You're already trying to pivot from "400mg is dangerous" to "well maybe 400mg isn't EXACTLY dangerous, it's subjective..." so you know exactly what you're doing. Nobody is talking about law but you, and you only started bringing it up when you realized your original point about 400mg being dangerous was wrong. You have no real beliefs and you're just retardedly shitposting because you're a dumbass.

[Anonymous No.20273293]

>>20273270
You're completely misreading this part:
>For healthy adults, the FDA has cited 400 milligrams...as an amount not generally associated with dangerous, negative effects. However, there is wide variation...
400mg is not associated with negative effects, but EXCEEDING it is. 400mg is the general upper limit of safety according to FDA guidance, which is exactly what I've been saying this entire time.

[Anonymous No.20273306]

I went through a period where I was drinking several liters of strong coffee a day and I was fine. Anyone who dies from this lemonade is a pussy and it's their own fault.

[Anonymous No.20273325]

>>20273293
>400mg is not associated with negative effects, but EXCEEDING it is.
No, that is not at all what it says. You are the one who is misreading. It is entirely unambiguous.
>The amount, 400mg, is not generally harmful.
That is what it means. Nothing more, nothing less.
What DOES the FDA specifically say about caffeine overdosing? Continuing the article...
>6. Does caffeine pose a danger to your health?
>The FDA estimates toxic effects, like seizures, can be observed with rapid consumption of around 1,200 milligrams of caffeine, or 0.15 tablespoons of pure caffeine.
Now feel free to start bitching that 3x30oz cups of the lemonade is close enough to 1,200mg which DOES have language stating it's harmful, but shut the fuck up and take the (ES)L with your "muh 400mg" bullshit.

[Anonymous No.20273361]

>>20273325
Just keep on guzzling that corporate cum.

[Anonymous No.20273366]

>>20268128
>>20268585
>>20272597
>>20272604
>the maximum recommended per day
This is a completely meaningless phrase. The fatal dose of caffeine for a normal, health adult is around 200mg/kg, which is equivalent to 100 cups of coffee, or 9.5g of caffeine. That's 9,500mg, in case you're as retarded as you seem.

No normal person is dying from even thousands of mg of caffeine and there's no reason for any beverage maker to suspect that anyone could be harmed by a serving size that's
>>20272594
>3 of them
>3x260=780
roughly 8% of the estimated lethal dose. Three of them is also 1,080 calories and I'm sure no one was anticipating people drinking half of their daily caloric intake in a single sitting. Retarded people are going to do retarded things and it will never be possible to protect them from their own stupidity.

[Anonymous No.20273372]

>>20273361
>:^(
lol

[Anonymous No.20273374]

>>20273361
Guzzling government cum instead of corporate cum is not much of an improvement, anon. You're just arguing that the powerful groups you're simping for are better than the powerful groups that you imagine the other guy is simping for.

[Anonymous No.20273384]

>>20273306
>Anyone who dies from this lemonade is a pussy and it's their own fault.
True, but caffeine is still a drug and like most drugs, you quickly develop a tolerance. If you went cold turkey for a few weeks and then tried to jump right back into drinking that same amount of coffee, you wouldn't die but you'd have a bad time.

[Anonymous No.20273402]

>>20270632
Anon that’s literally how they think. It’s why “schizos” point out that rich organizations flash their signs everywhere. It’s also why scapegoats exist (as in the actual historical scapegoat from which the term originates). They believe in “consent” and loopholes to trick god/karma/whatever

[Anonymous No.20273429]

>>20273374
who's cum CAN i guzzle? :(

[Anonymous No.20273434]

>>20273429
Anyone's you want. Careful though, mine's caffeinated.

[Anonymous No.20273449]

>>20273434
Does your ballsack have a huge warning label on it? Also, can I get unlimited refills?

[Anonymous No.20273455]

>>20267951
She was vaxxed. need I say more?

[Anonymous No.20273467]

>>20268128
Why can't anyone into personal responsibility these days?

[Anonymous No.20273474]

>>20267848
>bad publicity
no such thing

[Anonymous No.20273481]

>>20268640
>everyone must know everything about everything all the time and if they don't that's their fault if they get harmed or scammed
...No, you just have to know enough about the drink you are about to CONSUME before puting 3 doses of it in your body.

[Anonymous No.20273485]

>>20273481
This. Ignorance is no excuse in the age of smartphones, especially if you know you have a condition that makes you sensitive to caffeine.

[Anonymous No.20273498]

>>20273474
True. BRB going to panera to buy some fucking lemonade I've never heard of before today

[Anonymous No.20273558]

>>20267835
>Heroin hamburgers
Sounds kickass.

[Anonymous No.20273671]

Wasn’t one of the people who died from the Biden lemonade an actual retarded person who got a bunch of refills?

[Anonymous No.20273688]

>>20268725
Nah, it’s not, but it definitely is believable.
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/trump-did-not-say-lemonade-is-killing-people-under-biden-administration-2023-12-20/

[Anonymous No.20273695]

>>20268110
*irregardless
How some people don’t know the difference is beyond me.

[Anonymous No.20273947]

>>20272658
>natural selection filters retards from the gene pool
>this means i'm a bootlicker

[Anonymous No.20273958]

>>20270632
karma isn't real. henry kissinger lived to be 100 and died in ubelievable wealth surrounded by his family

[Anonymous No.20274213]

>>20273958
And he'll be reborn as a Venezuelan factory worker

[Anonymous No.20274220]

>>20273695
They mean the same thing you fucking dick gleamer. And irregardless is non-standard English, meaning only retarded faggots use it.

[Anonymous No.20274227]

>>20274220
that was obvious bait and you bit hard

[Anonymous No.20274261]

>>20268128
Why the fuck did they put so much caffeine in it?

[Anonymous No.20274277]

>>20274261
the regular size has a regular amount of caffeine. you're a dumb person if you drink 30 oz of regular lemonade lol

[Anonymous No.20274304]

>>20274261
They actually didn't put all that much in.

[Anonymous No.20274384]

Caffeine is this generations cigarettes

[Anonymous No.20274394]

>>20274384
There's actually just as much, if not more, research suggesting caffeine has beneficial health effects than detrimental ones. Then again, I guess this was somewhat true with cigarettes as well.

[Anonymous No.20274407]

>>20274261
Being a slave is soul crushing so people cope with large quantities of psychoactive stimulants.

[Anonymous No.20274485]

>>20268621
>>20270632
I've been looking for a video where some guy with an accent is filming a screen of a pdf that talks about the Jews controlling the world and being lizard people. He specifically talks about how giving hints leading up to their atrocities clears their guilt. Anyone have a link to that video? I can't find it anymore.

[Anonymous No.20274489]

>>20267835
Is this a Lewis Black bit?

[Anonymous No.20274675]

>>20273467
I mean you can't really take personal responsibility if you're dead. You can't know if her ghost would say "fair enough I fucked up my bad."

[Anonymous No.20274780]

>>20270632
Jews believe if they transfer all their sins to a chicken and then kill the chicken they're now scot-free in God's eyes. Yes, the lunatics in charge are no less cultishly dedicated to ridiculous shit they just dress it up enough so it's less obvious. If you willingly do something that they've intentionally set up to harm you they think they're completely free of sin since you chose to do it. If they put their symbols that you're a human sacrifice in plain sight then it's your fault for going to be a human sacrifice walking into Baal's mouth.

[Anonymous No.20275074]

>>20272895
>the drink is dangerous because people are retarded
>it's le corporation's fault!!!!
>btw I'm literally retarded and can't read what people actually say and will reply to alternative statements that exist only in my head

[Anonymous No.20275353]

imagine getting filtered by a fast food drink what worthless genetics

[Anonymous No.20275386]

>>20275353
>get hit by a car
>lmao nice genetics

[Anonymous No.20275490]

>>20275386
>stand in front of a car*
And at that point it's genetics. If youre retarded enough

[Anonymous No.20275686]

>>20273366
Listen retard, it doesn't matter what a fatal dose is because that doesn't mean there aren't severe effects before 9500mg. You die when your body can't handle the amount of damage being done to it. That means you are taking a lot of damage before you reach the fatal does.

>No normal person is dying from even thousands of mg of caffeine
But if it causes them permanent harm then you're ok with it?

[Anonymous No.20275709]

>>20274407
>>20274384
This. It's also contraceptive in that consuming caffeine lowers the birth weight and IQ significantly, and with enough it will just miscarry (We are talking just a few cups of coffee). Women don't know this and are guzzling caffeine and eating chocolate every day, while making the next generation dumber or non existent.

It's a serious problem. Somehow this drug has slipped through the cracks and become perfectly socially acceptable. People don't even understand how harmful it can be and they can't stop. Knowing what I know about the world, I can't believe this hasn't been pushed for nefarious reasons.

[Anonymous No.20275966]

>>20274227
came back to check on my b8 and lmao gotteem
>>20274220
sincerely, thank you for getting so asspained. I’m having a rough morning and that made me smile.

[Anonymous No.20275969]

>>20275709
source: you made it up

[Anonymous No.20276297]

>Dennis Brown, of Fleming Island, Florida, drank three Charged Lemonades from a local Panera on Oct. 9 and then suffered a fatal cardiac arrest on his way home, the suit says. Brown, 46, had an unspecified chromosomal deficiency disorder, a developmental delay and a mild intellectual disability.Dec 4, 2023

>An Ivy League student with a heart condition died after she drank Panera Bread’s Charged Lemonade, a large cup of which contains more caffeine than cans of Red Bull and Monster energy drinks combined, according to a lawsuit.

The two fatalities from the Bidenade have been an Ivy League student and a literal retard. What does that mean?

[Anonymous No.20276395]

>>20276297
means no refunds

[Anonymous No.20276422]

>>20268128
>those companies make it abundantly clear on the packaging that they are intended to be drank in two servings.
Nobody drinks a can in 2 servings. I don't care if you put it all over the can. Nobody does it and it's unreasonable to expect people will. If they wanted people to follow a 2 serving recommendation, they'd put it in bottles with screw tops.

[Anonymous No.20276435]

>>20276422
This. If the package can’t be resealed than I eat or drink the entire contents in one go.

[Anonymous No.20276553]

>>20276297
It means 5-6 digits of $ spent on education doesn't actually make you not retarded.

[Anonymous No.20276822]

>>20270997
it's not dumb because it's true, anon. it's dumb because it has absolutely nothing to do with the president

[Anonymous No.20276846]

>>20276822
I watched biden pour the caffeine into the lemonade by hand libshit

[Anonymous No.20276859]

>>20276846
If they put the drugs they make biden swallow before giving a press conference into a lemonade, you bet your ass I'm buying a case

[Anonymous No.20276904]

>>20276822
>He isnt presidential enough
>the mummy being kept alive by the blood of children who can barely say two coherent words is

[Anonymous No.20277019]

>>20268682
Hilarious, wish it was true but he makes plenty of jokes, most of them go over certain morons heads

>>20268881
Nah Biden murders women with illegals

[Anonymous No.20277027]

>>20268052
They do give free refills on coffee, or if they dont they do for me. Lots of places give free coffee refills, i know for sure Waffle House and this one local place i worked at did. As far as i know its a common practice to give free coffee refills.
Also, lemonade is loaded with sugar, so its only more drinkable to certain types of people.
>>20268885
you mean sympathy, not empathy,
>should be in prison
and clearly you dont know what you have.

[Anonymous No.20277109]

>>20268885
>when you're running a business that serves millions of customers every day, "most people won't die" doesn't cut it,

How do alcohol manufacturers and liquor stores stay in business?

[Anonymous No.20277518]

>>20268585
>make a moderate failure to cater to the average retard's complete and shameful ignorance
>get sued
This is the type of shit that's wrong with our culture

[Anonymous No.20277747]

>>20268663
IM GONNA GULP

[Anonymous No.20277919]

>>20268844
they had the good shit back then.

[Anonymous No.20277925]

>>20275969
Nah, caffeine causes issues. It's why pretty much any woman with a GP, or parents, friends, will be told to wean themselves off coffee as quickly as possible when they become pregnant. It's not a contraceptive per se (conception is just as likely with or without caffeine), moreso a potential abortifacient, and something that increases the risk of birth defects and can slow fetal development and growth.

Caffeine's a poison in the same way that ethanol and nicotine are. Small doses and a lack of chronic abuse probably won't shorten your life beyond the few years at the end that you probably don't want to live anyway, but a shit-tonne will kill you, and in doses that would be on the large-but-not-fatal end for humans, all three are used as pesticides.

[Anonymous No.20277945]

>>20276859
He's been on that shit for decades. Same rule as edibles: start with a quarter dose and give it a half hour.

[Anonymous No.20277958]

>>20268682
>When life hands you lemons, Joe Biden kills you with them.
FUCKING STOLEN, without intent of reimbursement or return of this intellectual property.

[Anonymous No.20278005]

>>20270663
It'll help you sleep, and keep the airways open.
>other essentials
probably coca leaf and eucalyptus or rosemary oil. 100% this shit was effective - make you cough everything out (they still use codeine for prescription expectorants), ease the pain, open things up, and have you snoring faster than neo-citran with gin.

[Anonymous No.20278148]

>>20268827
last one is too, the whole thing is.

[Anonymous No.20279430]

>>20268682
>When life hands you lemons, Joe Biden kills you with them
the Shitposter in Chief does it again

[Anonymous No.20279556]

How much caffeine is in a 300 mL bottle of sugar free vanilla coca cola? it says it does contain caffeine but I can't see anything that says how much

[Anonymous No.20279801]

>>20279556
https://www.coca-colacompany.com/about-us/faq/what-is-caffeine
>Coke’s caffeine content is 34mg for a 12-oz can
So it's about 2.83mg per ounce, which means drinking 30 ounces of Coke will deliver 85mg of caffeine, while Panera's 30 ounce Charged Lemonade contains 390mg of caffeine, which is equivalent to drinking 138 ounces of Coke (11.5 cans worth). I don't know if Coke's caffeine content is different outside the US so this is all the information I have.

[Anonymous No.20279840]

>>20279801
Ah i'm probably fine then

[Anonymous No.20279914]

>>20268881
>FRIENDSHIP WITH ISRAEL ENDED
you're move, creep 8^)

[Anonymous No.20279918]

Wouldn't you feel sick well before dying? Caffeine hits pretty fast.

[Anonymous No.20279949]

>>20268682
forever my mad lad

[Anonymous No.20280255]

>>20273467
She was a woman and a child so this is her father's fault really.

[Anonymous No.20280267]

>>20268682
>When life hands you lemons, Joe Biden kills you with them.
This guy's a shit stirring ZOG cum guzzler but you gotta give it up.

[Anonymous No.20280496]

>>20280267
He's why 4chan can't be in charge of things (like Fox news... jesus christ, what have we done there?)... that said, there's no way this was a talking point, and that line is too perfect to be spur of the moment. That's gotta be one of ours.

[Anonymous No.20280498]

People always go nuts about those old medications but they aren't really anything special. The doses were super low and yes some had cocaine but in mild stimulant amounts equivalent to like taking psuedoephedrine today. See my pic for example - you can buy this in my country by speaking to the pharmacist, one bottle contains 30mg of morphine and maybe 3 shots worth of alcohol. If you chug the whole thing you'll get high but almost puke from how disgusting it is. Plus it's expensive.

[Anonymous No.20280710]

>>20267913
You matter

[Anonymous No.20280715]

>>20280710
look out world, here we come