/tea/ - crazy crazing edition

[Anonymous No.20252468]

This thread is for discussing teas, tisanes, and other herbal infusions.

info: types of tea, where to get tea, how to brew tea
https://rentry.org/teageneral

previous thread: >>20226717

[Anonymous No.20252490]

In the mengku video Will has this very nice cup.
It looks like it's unglazed, yet mat.
Any idea what is this specific material called? It's not porcelain, so some kind of other ceramic.

[Anonymous No.20252506]

>>20252490
I think these might be from their site, by an artist they featured, although I'm not sure
they look glazed, so it would be glazed stoneware

[Anonymous No.20252555]

>you will never be an imperial Chinese bureaucrat and scholar-gentleman with an extensive collection of fine teaware
>you will never have a proper ruist wife that plays guqin and burns incense while you relax in your tea chamber after a long day of arguing for the suppression of the recent peasant rebellion (death toll: five million)
>you will never be personally gifted a fine piece of tiangqingni teaware from the emperor after passing your jingshi exam
>you will never study the philosophy of Confucius and compose tasteful poetry under the moonlight while you sip freshly harvested longjing
Why even live at this point

[Anonymous No.20252596]

favorite ginger or turmeric teas?

[Anonymous No.20252609]

>>20252490
Hagi ware?

[Anonymous No.20252626]

>>20252596
>ginger
Fuck no.
>turmeric
I've only had it mixed with cheap matcha, it's heresy but it tasted ok, never do it with a tea that you want to taste.

[Anonymous No.20252639]

>>20252490
I like the pitcher

[Anonymous No.20252648]

>>20252626
who doesn't like ginger?

[Anonymous No.20252695]

For you guys who dedicate each yixing pot to only one kind of tea, how do you tell them apart? Do you give each pot a cute name?

[Anonymous No.20252700]

>>20252490
He used to sell teaware from that artist. I haven't seen anything quite like it. Im sure he could give you some more info if you email him.

[Anonymous No.20252704]

>>20252596
>Ginger
Peel and slice a pice the size of your thumb, simmer in a pot for 20 minutes. Or just buy a big bag of dried ginger and brew a tablespoon in a mug.
>tumeric
Same as above if you can find fresh tumeric at the grocers.

[Anonymous No.20252710]

>>20252695
Only using it for one kind of tea is a meme, the most optimum choice is to get one zini, zhuni and luni. They all look distinct and each one covers everything that could benefit from clay teapots (zhuni: black teas, whites, oolongs - luni: teas with excessive smoke or storage aroma - zini: normal dark teas)

[Anonymous No.20252960]

Any true teas that you can sip at night without getting a caffeine hit?

[Anonymous No.20253016]

>>20252960
i like kyobancha

[Anonymous No.20253082]

>>20248622
i havent had much sheng but fa zhan he isnt bitter/astringent? that was one of the first things i noticed when i first had it, maybe i overbrew? if fa zhan he isnt a bitter sheng, then what is?

[Anonymous No.20253115]

Did white2tea stop offering free shipping?

[Anonymous No.20253126]

>>20252695
The best advice is not to get two teapots that look similar. It's a huge world out there. Even if you have a favorite form, diversify.

[Anonymous No.20253141]

where do aus lard anons buy tea from
I got a job so I can order stuff now

[Anonymous No.20253267]

>>20253082
It had a little bitterness but compared to Lao man e, naka small trees, and ao ne me which I had tried before it was way less.

[Anonymous No.20253269]

>>20253082
How long did you brew for and what ratio of tea/water also what water temperature?

[Anonymous No.20253316]

>>20253267
i definitely need to drink more puer
>>20253269
probably like 5-6g in ~120ml gaiwan for 5 to 20 secs, i try to vaguely follow the pastebin/reentry. now that im used to it the tea isnt too bitter but it definitely caught me off guard when i first had it. i had a similar experience with green tea when i first had a gyokuro.

[Anonymous No.20253380]

>>20253115
They only do that for sales.

[Anonymous No.20253670]

>>20252695
The only thing you really have to worry about with Yixing is shou/heicha. You generally want one pot specifically for shou and one for liu bao and yadda.

[Anonymous No.20253738]

How many western style steeps will you usually do on a single tea before using fresh leaves?

[Anonymous No.20253913]

>>20252700
He says the name of the artist in the video.
It's some Ukrainian dude but due to the war he no longer sells stuff so I was wondering where I could get something similar or what to look for.
>>20253316
>for 5 to 20 secs
I usually don't go above 5s the first 5 brews or so.
Even something like 2-3s enough if you still have boiling water.
If you want stronger taste user more leaves not brew longer as that's where the bitterness comes from. Also the first 1-2 brews usually are on the weaker side since the leaves are still not ready.
Fa zhan he is one of the least bitter young raws I've tried, so it should be just inexperience not the tea problem.
There will always be slight bitterness in the later brews(think beer) but it shouldn't be anything unpleasant.

[Anonymous No.20254062]

>>20253082
drinking it right now. bitterness is definitely on the lower side. but if you overbrew, it will come out
try a sample of Lao Man E if you want to see the bitter side of sheng

[Anonymous No.20254255]

First of all, a mountain should be able to have a mountain friend without starting any rumors.
Second of all, where is Pazhen?

[Anonymous No.20254273]

>>20254255
it's lao tong zhi or haiwan, they're big gay
cake looks good if you want fresh sheng

[Anonymous No.20254299]

How do we feel about unscented dish soap for unglazed teaware?

[Anonymous No.20254420]

>>20254299
Just hot water after you finish drinking your tea you don't need more and let it dry nicely somewhere.

[Anonymous No.20254456]

>>20254299
It makes my neckhair crawl. Any type of soap for unglazed teaware is wrong.

[Anonymous No.20254518]

help a newbie out
going to get myself my first clay pot
I already have a nice porcelain pot for greens, light oolongs, yellow, and whites
what clay is best to cover most other tea types?

[Anonymous No.20254773]

What tisanes do people enjoy?
I'd like some recommendations
I'm trying to reduce my caffeine intake and avoid it later in the day, but would still like a nice drink for relaxation.
My favourite is rooibos. I also like chamomile. Other than those two I tend to just pick up various blended teabags in the supermarket
Keen to just buy better quality loose ingredients though. Maybe even learn to forage and mix my own blends.

[Anonymous No.20254819]

>>20254773
Sideritis is really tasty and has a different vibe to rooibos or chamomile, I'd give it a try. I've always got some sideritis and some rooibos on hand at the very least.
Also give that korean roasted barley a go it's toasty and comfy.

[Anonymous No.20254880]

>>20254819
Thanks. I will definitely try the sideritis. Just watched a youtube vid about it and it looks really good.

[Anonymous No.20254910]

>>20252468
Homemade cookies with jasmine as we wait for the harvest

[Anonymous No.20255821]

>Mom found the SCOBY

[Anonymous No.20256177]

Thank you to the anon who recommended that xiaguan dianhong off of DTH. It’s gooood.

[Anonymous No.20256207]

Anyone have any experience with the “18 kinds” wuyi oolong pack that floats around eBay and various tea sites? https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=18+kinds+wuyi+oolong

For that price it could be fun just to try, even if they’re mediocre.

[Anonymous No.20256407]

>>20255821
Any of you kombuchads tried using ripe?

[Anonymous No.20256525]

>>20256407
Yes.

[Anonymous No.20256560]

>>20256525
Cool.

[Anonymous No.20256602]

Favorite teas for western brews? Grandpa is fine too. I keep forgetting about my water when boiling it.

[Anonymous No.20256614]

what if took advantage of the SCOBY's natural weird appearance and used it as a coomjar. Mom would never find out.

[Anonymous No.20256829]

>>20256614
You could invent a new type of coombucha

[Anonymous No.20256847]

>resting tea
>storing new tea for weeks or months before taking a sip
People really do this?

[Anonymous No.20256862]

I'm mostly a pu'er drinker and know pretty little about other categories

I had this hongcha and loved it https://tecompanytea.com/products/stonegate-breakfast-taiwanese-black-tea
their tasting notes of "candied plum, star fruit, dark chocolate" were spot on; is this typical of Keemun/qimeng black tea? Are there any you guys would recommend?

[Anonymous No.20256875]

>>20256847
Generally I'll try one thing right away from an order and then try the rest over a month or so. Just to spread out the fun of trying new stuff.

>>20256862
I got this far without learning there's roasted black tea out there, sounds nice.

[Anonymous No.20257294]

>>20256177
yeah it's a nice daily black, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.20257618]

2024 Peak Vulture is out
worth a buy? I enjoy Lumber Slut, but have not tried other white2tea ripes

[Anonymous No.20257627]

>>20254773
Sideritis, willowherb, peppermint, verbena, jujube leaf, tulsi, hawthorn leaf, dandelion root, and nettle are some of my go-tos. There are plenty of others that are more medicinal and less tasty.
>Maybe even learn to forage and mix my own blends.
If you're in a low-pollution area you can just pull pine needles off a tree and brew those niggas up. It's not the most exciting but it's free and allegedly loaded with vitamin C and other good stuff.

[Anonymous No.20257659]

>>20257618
also, any general reccs for their best value offerings?

[Anonymous No.20257673]

>>20257627
Thanks. Will add to the list.
> If you're in a low-pollution area
I'm lucky to live in a nice rural area in northern UK. I used to go foraging when I was very young for bilberries. People still do it, but not as much. Keep meaning to get back into it as it's a shame that part of the culture is dying out.

[Anonymous No.20257731]

>>20257673
>bilberries
Very cool. We don't quite have those in my part of the US but I have some bagged bilberry leaf that I put in tisane blends sometimes and it's comfy, a little weak but pleasant and supposedly excellent for vision.
>it's a shame that part of the culture is dying out
True, but there are young people who want to bring that stuff back. In America a ton of people have gotten into fermentation and gardening in the last five years or so; it's only a start but it's nice to see. We've seen what happens when generation after generation has no capacity for self-sufficiency and it's not pretty.

[Anonymous No.20257895]

Bought new pot, very tight lid, has the maker's signet and came with the paperwork. Zhu ni clay

[Anonymous No.20257911]

>>20257618
Oh shit thanks for the heads up
>>20257659
Try Camphornought.

[Anonymous No.20258126]

>>20257618
I bought a tong.
It's definitely worth a buy. Nice, dark, rich. Nice treat. Darn cheap. Pretty distinct from Lumber Slut, imo, but Lumber Slut is the more unusual, let's approachable shou. Peak Vulture is easier to enjoy.

[Anonymous No.20258174]

>>20257673
NTA
Spruce is also good, especially in spring when the branchtips are soft and green, just cut them off. Just make sure you don't have it confused with a yew, you make yew tea and you could die.

[Anonymous No.20258607]

Might be a long winded question, but I feel like it's still worth asking. When I buy Jasmine green tea from the store, or Sencha from my local Japanese market, it's an amber color when brewed. However when I go to my local Chinese or Thai Restaurant, the serve a green tea that's a deep green color after being brewed. Similarly when I watch videos about Green Tea farms in Japan and they show the brewing process it's a deep green there too. What kind of green tea produces that greener color? It always seems to have a better flavor whenever I try it.

[Anonymous No.20258728]

>>20258607
I hear nip green tea drinkers are autistic about freshness. Has to be from the current year. Some even put it in the freezer to slow down oxidation/aging. Do any of your retailers display the year of harvest?

[Anonymous No.20258782]

>>20258607
Chinese green tea is pan dried while japs use steam.
Could be other reasons as well, I'm not interested in green tea so couldn't be bothered to go down that rabbit hole.

[Anonymous No.20258790]

Do you think FL will release new hidden locations again?
I'm more interested in those then autumn famous locations that I can get from other vendors.

[Anonymous No.20258861]

>>20258790
William and wife are touring in europe right now might have some time before harvest to visit new locations before having to work in their tea gardens and process. Hope to see new ones too but new releases will be in a "long" time from now. Not sure about the weather in yunnan either depending on the location we could have another "dry" year and might get really good tea like last spring.

[Anonymous No.20259043]

>>20258607
Sencha will be a bit greener when it's fresh
If the tea you like is green and cloudy, it might be fukamushi sencha

Generally I feel like jap teas are more often very green when brewed, Chinese greens are usually yellow amd clear

[Anonymous No.20259134]

Are any of the white teas from white2tea worth it?

[Anonymous No.20259259]

the damn FOMO "value" gimmick got me again. I didn't love Snoozefest that much (not bad for 15$ admittedly but not outstanding), but I did like Lumber Slut a lot. I think I'm less picky with ripe in general and I'm curious to try more boutique ripes. just hope it isn't super fishy, I've never bought ripe from the current year before

the white teas all sound identical, but I guess moon waffles is the cheap one that people seem to like more than turtle dove?

[Anonymous No.20259506]

>>20258728
Ah I see, no there's no date of harvest on the brand I bought, and it just came in a bag on the shelf, no special packaging or refrigeration for freshness. I'll seek out more high quality stuff in the future when I can.
>>20259043
Will see if fukamushi green tea is what I'm thinking of. Thanks for the direction.

[Anonymous No.20259528]

newfag here can someone spoon feed me on what the thing is that they spill the gaiwan water into
what's that drain thing called

[Anonymous No.20259560]

What's the cheapest drinkable raw puer?

[Anonymous No.20259618]

>>20257895
Nice, what does the engraving say? Also where did you get it? I picked up this one from realzisha.com recently.

[Anonymous No.20259899]

Where to get a decent tea table inexpensive?

[Anonymous No.20259946]

>>20259134
I like moon waffles, but I have very little experience with whites.
>>20259259
Good picks. A friend of mine is real into lumber slut. I might buy him a beanie.
>>20259560
Highly rec the brick.
http://www.pu-erhtea.com/TeaDetails.aspx?TeaID=796
http://www.pu-erhtea.com/TeaDetails.aspx?TeaID=900

[Anonymous No.20260057]

>>20259946
>brick tea
doesn't that shit give you fluoride poisoning

[Anonymous No.20260078]

>>20260057
No thats tetley.

[Anonymous No.20260104]

>>20260057
you can make up by not brushing your teeth. or try not eating toothpaste

[Anonymous No.20260121]

i just drink bigelow teas, black. am i allowed in here?

[Anonymous No.20260132]

>>20260078
>>20260104
i knew it
i can't believe the puerh lesbians would try to trick me like this

[Anonymous No.20260133]

>>20260121
NO, YOUR IGNORANCE IS A DISEASE AND YOU'RE INFECTING THIS THREAD. LEAVE NOW.

[Anonymous No.20260194]

>>20260132
All bricked up on a Friday night.

[Anonymous No.20260362]

thoughts on the white2tea club and Yunnan Sourcing subscriptions?

[Anonymous No.20260399]

>>20260362
I got some tasty stuff from the w2club. Full sized green hype, higher end 50g cakes, teas that don't get listed on the site, fresh chinese greens, maocha, weird liu baos like the chapos and raw spring. I think its worth trying a couple months. You'll get something that piques your interest for sure.

[Anonymous No.20260684]

The first tea I had out of my Lucky Yancha Box from Old Ways Tea was a mystery tea, there's no label or text on the package at all lol.
Somewhat metallic minerality, med/heavy roast, walnuts, bamboo, tobacco (specifically a Connecticut cigar). Pleasant and long lasting aftertaste with a difficult to describe sort of tingly mouthfeel. Impressive longevity, I didn’t count the steeps but I had a focused 2.5 hour session and I am wired lol.
Overall a really enjoyable tea. I don't have much experience with yancha and I'm excited to work my way through the rest of my order.

[Anonymous No.20260840]

>>20259618
local teashop in Helsinki
the place is real treasure coz the owner actually goes to China to buy the pots and teas

haven't checked what it says. tea vendor said its probably a snippet from a poem

[Anonymous No.20260846]

>>20260840
Google Gemini says at least one row means: come, sit down, have tea at noon. It is a common idiom used to invite someone for tea, especially during lunchtime.

[Anonymous No.20260856]

>>20260846
>>20260840
Bottom row of the teapot appears to be 兴是看山煙 (xīng shì kàn shān yān) which translates to "happiness is watching mountain smoke."

This is a line from a poem by Tang Dynasty poet Li Shen (李绅) titled “山居” (Shān jū) which translates to "Living in the Mountains". The full poem reads:

闲卧茅檐下, (Xián wò máo yán xià)
风雨 夜听 寒。 (Fēng yǔ yè tīng hán.)
兴 是 看 山 烟, (Xīng shì kàn shān yān,)
静 对 松 溪 谈。 (Jìng duì sōng xī tán.)

This translates to:

Relaxing under a thatched roof,
Listening to the wind and rain at night.
Happiness is watching mountain smoke,
Talking quietly while facing a pine stream.

[Anonymous No.20260868]

>>20259528
The tea tray?

[Anonymous No.20260880]

Does anyone know anything about the "MINGNABAICHUAN" brand?

[Anonymous No.20260981]

>>20259134
i enjoyed the turtle dove but i have a bunch of white tea coming from them any day now (i made my order back in january), so i guess you can wait for my post describing them

[Anonymous No.20260991]

>>20260981
Nice. Ended up just buying a sample of the moon waffles.
I'm not very experienced with whites and they seem a bit confusing to buy. The taste descriptions all sound the same and the prices vary wildly.

[Anonymous No.20261016]

Thank you to anons who suggested airing out a chunk of YS cozy ripe to get rid of the fish smell. I left it out on my desk for like a month and all of the smell disappeared, I enjoyed it more than I though after that.

>>20258607
As others said, the extra green ones are fukamushi (deeply steamed). In my experience, 1 year old fukamushi doesn't really change it's color. Asamushi (light steam) tends to be yellow or yellow-green.

[Anonymous No.20261119]

Anyone got a rec for another cheap white cake? Nearly out of this one, pretty solid for the cost. Maybe I'll just buy a random one at fullchea or DTH.

>>20261016
>airing out
Works rather well doesn't it, I like doing that to take the edge off the storage smells for yeeon stuff as well.

[Anonymous No.20261134]

>>20261119
I remember one anon was a big fan of the Bada white from Chawangshop and another one really liked the Lao Bai Cha from KTM
if you're brave, there is also the very cheap white cake on Awazon. 3$ for a 100 gram sample and if you buy a tong it's like sub 2 cents per gram or something

[Anonymous No.20261143]

>>20261134
>very cheap white cake on Awazon
I forgot about that, they also have those $2 squares of white. I think that's the one to go for as my cheapo ripe is low too. Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.20261159]

God I love awazon

[Anonymous No.20261161]

I've only ever had tea bags or jugs of tea. I recently got a tea travel set with some cups and a little gaiwan/pot combo, and some little samples of various Chinese teas. I followed the directions, but between the three or so different teas I tried, it's very hard to pick up any kind of taste or unique taste between them. Directions included for the teas did give slightly different steep times, but even if I steeped them for a little longer they still were relatively flavorless to me. Tried different water levels too, but no luck. Am I just desensitized to this stuff?

[Anonymous No.20261166]

>>20261161
There's plenty of bad tea out there so it's kinda hard to say. What have you got?

[Anonymous No.20261182]

>>20261161
Could be meh tea or just an effect of being used to sweetened tea. What did you get?
Remember that you can always increase leaf amount and steeping time if you want the tea to be more flavorful. There is no single right way to brew tea.

[Anonymous No.20261184]

>>20261159
Might have some of that cheeky Fuhai ripe from there today

[Anonymous No.20261198]

>>20261166
The names directly from the website are
>Qimen Red Tea, Roasted Iron Goddess of Mercy Oolong, Ancient Tree Raw Pu'Er, Liubao Black Jasmine.
>>20261182
The specific set I got had pre-portioned sizes, but you're more than likely right. I don't think I have a place near me that sells Chinese specifically, but I can probably find bigger bags/portions of loose leaf so I can do that.

[Anonymous No.20261213]

>>20261184
Good lad. Almost all gone now, it's fun to throw in the thermos without a care. I'd be getting another cake but I'm trying to focus on trying new stuff and my budget's restricted. Some day I'll pick up a few to stash away.

[Anonymous No.20261245]

>>20261198
from Jesse's Teahouse? I heard he just buys the tea on Taobao and marks it way up so it might be kind of mediocre. but it probably shouldn't be total shit
when in doubt, just increase the brewing parameters. the orange pu-erh and liu bao you could even simmer on the stove. the raw pu-erh should give you a strong flavor too if you push it a bit

[Anonymous No.20261336]

>>20260362
>>20260399
I've been mulling over one of the two as well. Feels like something worth trying for a while. It would be cool to have something curated simply show up without having to think too much about it. Given that it would be for education's sake, maybe YS is the better call. I would be a little annoyed if I got a tea I liked but didn't have any follow up to go with it. I suppose I could contact them and press Paul for details.

[Anonymous No.20261347]

>>20261134
>Lao Bai Cha
+1 for that KTM shou mei. It's like $15 and tastes like honey. Needs more material than you might think. Maybe that's typical of whites? My experience is limited. Either way, I bought a tong. I reckon it's me you're referring to, now that I think about it.

[Anonymous No.20261482]

I like black tea and am new to the wider world of tea types and making. Do you have a specific site from the rentry list you think sells the best black tea? Is there a specific type of black tea you like the best?

[Anonymous No.20261748]

>>20260362
>>20261336
Based on what I have seen YS seems to mostly give you a rotating selection of relatively typical teas, whereas W2T includes a lot more experimental or unusual teas. YS is probably better if you want want a try a bunch of miscellaneous Chinese teas but don't want to pick your own samples. W2T is probably the better option if you want to try new or novel teas. The Old Ways tea club also looks compelling if you want a bunch of yancha.

[Anonymous No.20261825]

>>20261482
This is a controversial take but in my opinion Fullchea is the best place for a beginner. The tea is not expensive and good value for money. Just don't buy the absolute cheapest tea.
I think these should be solid picks
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/2021-yunnan-golden-spiral-black-chinese-tea-dianhong-red-single-bud-black-chinese-tea-250g-1
https://yunnansourcing.com/en-ca/products/feng-qing-classic-58-dian-hong-premium-yunnan-black-tea?variant=43180834029767
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/hand-picked-jin-jun-mei-black-tea-golden-eyebrow-wuyi-black-teas
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/fullchea-chinese-tea-golden-monkey-fujian-black-tea-loose-leaf-golden-tea-chinese-pleasant-taste-with-malt-and-chocolate-perfect-morning-tea

[Anonymous No.20261842]

>>20261482
I liked the ones I got from Kingteamall. especially the Jin Jun Mei and aged Shai Hong
my favorite was probably the Tanyang Gongfu I got from thetea.pl. I should buy more, too bad it's not available from most sites

[Anonymous No.20261906]

>>20257618
Next year I swear! I hate being a poor. Missed out on the Old Ways Tea Lucky Yancha Box too. Feels bad man. At least I still have a deep stash of tea to hold me over until greener times.

[Anonymous No.20262131]

>>20261159
Based. Hope you enjoy the brick.

[Anonymous No.20262158]

>>20258126
Nice, I hope I like it. I don't believe the claims of this being extra low markup or something, but I wanted to try more ripes from w2t anyway

[Anonymous No.20262526]

I'm drinking this Lao Cong Shui Xian from my oldwaystea sampler.
https://oldwaystea.com/products/lao-cong-shui-xian-2022
This is a really good tea and the first Shui Xian I have had. I think it is one of the best in the 2022 bundle.
The description is on point, spicy and woody. Really delicious actually.

[Anonymous No.20262662]

Lesser evils

[Anonymous No.20262721]

>>20262662
are you using an ipad as a teatray

[Anonymous No.20262810]

>>20262721
Nah it's a scale.

[Anonymous No.20262843]

>>20262810
how unfortunate.

[Anonymous No.20262845]

>>20261159
I'm gonna do this as soon as I've finished off some of my shitters.

[Anonymous No.20262869]

>>20261159
>>20262845
By the way, are there any hacks to lowering Awazon's shipping cost, like cramming as much as you can under a certain gross limit?

[Anonymous No.20262927]

>>20262869
Nah not really it scales linearly by weight with a $9 minimum. Just order at least 400g. Well I guess you can order more expensive tea to make the shipping feel worth it, but generally your cost per gram including shipping will still be pretty nice.

[Anonymous No.20263022]

Autism got activated. Awazon doing alright

[Anonymous No.20263044]

>>20263022
Good work

[Anonymous No.20263254]

>>20263022
Cheers cunt

[Anonymous No.20263314]

>>20261482
strong black tea with milk is what i like. I dont do black tea gong fu style.
Ceylon, assam, and black tea blends i make myself. I do sometimes add Jin Jun Mei to my blend to have my black tea be a bit malty and deeper flavor.

[Anonymous No.20263318]

>>20262845
why dont you want to show yoru country? lmfao.

[Anonymous No.20263358]

>>20263318
im not from USA, so its embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.20263393]

>>20263358
as an american, trust me, being from here is far more mortifying.

[Anonymous No.20263597]

>>20263358
Polack detected

[Anonymous No.20263946]

>>20260684
Nice teapot. Where did you get it?

[Anonymous No.20263958]

>>20263393
brasil mentioned

[Anonymous No.20264116]

>>20263946
Thanks, I bought it from moodyguy.biz
It has a nice effect on yancha

[Anonymous No.20264597]

really enjoying that Autumn Lao Man E. really interesting scent of herbs, animal musk and maybe some very heavy jasmine. very strong mineral flavor and mouthfeel, bitterness is there but not over the top
I wonder how the Spring version would compare. more sweetness and huigan would make this god-tier

[Anonymous No.20264646]

Been testing what teas work with my new zhi ni pot. So far shui xian phoenix oolong and bai mudan have been excellent.

[Anonymous No.20264648]

>>20264646
zhu ni i meant t. >>20257895

[Anonymous No.20264664]

This is just cable/dac/tips pairing all over again.
Please don't bring technicalities to this thread as well.
This was one of the few places where common sense prevailed.

[Anonymous No.20264671]

>>20261482
This is my budget pick https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/2019-chinese-tea-dianhong-honey-rhyme-gold-screw-black-tea-red-teas-200g-box
This one is probably my favorite from around 20 different black teas I've tried so far
https://tea-expert.net/magazin-kitajskogo-chaya/krasnyj-chaj/qita-hong-cha/zun-yi-hong-cha-2018

[Anonymous No.20264865]

>>20264664
What specifically are you objecting to?
I think that some people in the tea community overstate or mystify the effects of yixing, and I think that some people get overly autistic about pairing certain teas with certain clays.
But I don't believe that the idea of zisha muting certain flavors is really controversial.
When I said "It has a nice effect on yancha" I guess I could have been more specific and said "On several occasions I've had yancha side by side out of this pot and porcelain and found that the pot seemed to mute/ round off some of the 'higher notes' of the roasted flavor in a way I find pleasant."

[Anonymous No.20264918]

What does airing out tea mean, how do you do it, do you do it and with which teas?

[Anonymous No.20264936]

>>20260868
yea that. thanks anon

[Anonymous No.20264975]

Why are all the famous puer regions bitter and astringent?
Like what's wrong with people?
Naka, lao man e, bao Lan zhang... all of it says it's bitter.
I guess big Dao doesn't sound as bitter but I'm having my doubts that even $300 cakes are the real deal and at that point I might as well get something else.

[Anonymous No.20265014]

>>20264975
almost all young raw pu-erh is some level of bitter and astringnent, it's part of the fun. it will often be bittersweet or tart in a good way. if you just want mild and sweet, you'd probably be better off trying some other type of tea, like oolong or white tea
you also generally want bitterness for aging, very mild pu-erh tends not to age well.
milder famous areas include Yiwu, Jinggu, maybe Jingmai.

[Anonymous No.20265026]

>>20264865
>mystify the effects of yixing, and I think that some people get overly autistic about pairing certain teas with certain clays.
Every niche hobby will atract snobs with unlimited pockets spending ungodly amount of money on things that doesn't matter.
Eventually testosterone kicks in and dudes have the need to out snob the other snob which leads to all kinds of mumbo jumbo bullshit.
Then you are left with hobby that attracts these sort of people(hipsters yuck).
They have no knowledge just money and look down on to the "plebs" that didn't spend thousands on some piece of pottery or some shit.
This behavior is literally everywhere I look. People dismis opinions of others because they didn't spend as much money/time as them, therefore they have to be wrong.

I will call out this behavior every time. Get a fucking stainless steel or glass or any other inert material cup and throw some leaves in it.

This should be snob free zone. If you want to chase mystic technicalities that only 1000 years old trees brewed in iceberg water can provide I suggest reddit.

[Anonymous No.20265179]

>>20265026
You're the only one here being a snob here. You are the one looking down on people who said nothing more than "I like the way my pot makes tea."
>This behavior is literally everywhere I look.
>I will call out this behavior every time.
What behavior? People enjoying their tea with their teapots? Nobody is looking down on anybody for their choice of teaware except for you.
It's pretty much indisputable that unglazed clay brews tea that tastes different than a neutral porcelain or whatever. Is it necessarily better? No. Is it worth obscene prices? No. Is it some sort of magic or a requirement for good tea? Of course not, but it's worth discussing. And really I just like the way yixing pots look, I find the art, the craftsmanship, and the history behind them interesting. I think they're cool, and I'll keep posting about them.
If you see actual snobbery, by all means call that shit out, I'll be calling it out with you.

[Anonymous No.20265358]

>>20264918
There are a number of reasons you may want to let a tea rest after you purchase it. "Airing out" usually refers to ripe puerh or some scrappy young raw puerhs that can be dank in various ways for various reasons. In this thread, it typically refers to tea being left out on a countertop for a week or longer, but it could also refer to letting the tea sit in storage for a while. Presumably, this storage is a pumidor that has regulated humidity and possibly temps.
One can also "let a tea rest" after delivery which is adjacent to "airing out." At some level of abstraction, a cake of tea can be thought of as a moisture battery. It can hold a moisture charge, expend or increase its moisture amount. When a tea is delivered, it may have spent a long time in dry airport cargo, on a boat, sitting in a customs office, all sorts of less-than-ideal places. Allowing a tea to rest in proper storage for a week or longer can reintroduce the moisture that makes a tea juicier. When it's dry, it can be flat, muted.
There's probably some dogma in there somewhere, but that's the short and sweet of it.

[Anonymous No.20265591]

>>20265179
I have nothing against you or your pot.
But this is how it usually begins.
Shit like "you can really hear the difference with this 1k cable, 2k dac, and 4k iem with bazillion drivers" which turns very quickly to who has the biggest dick contest.
>If you see actual snobbery, by all means call that shit out, I'll be calling it out with you.
Glad to hear we are on the same page here.

[Anonymous No.20265598]

If anyone here is familiar with the bubble tea flavor "hokkaido" (yes ik it's a Japanese province) do you know what kind of tea they use for this flavor? I'm addicted but can't keep shelling out almost $10

[Anonymous No.20265603]

If anyone here is familiar with the bubble tea flavor "hokkaido" (yes ik it's a Japanese prefecture) do you know what kind of tea they use for this flavor? I'm addicted but can't keep shelling out almost $10

[Anonymous No.20265629]

>>20264597
Haven't even started on mine yet, I've been hitting the oolong and ripe constantly, good to hear it's nice. I sampled the spring lao man e which was pretty potent.

[Anonymous No.20265649]

>>20265629
yeah, it's nice. very particular flavor, different from other raws I've had which is pretty fun. solid longevity too, for an autumn tea
maybe you could do a side by side comparison of spring vs autumn lao man e?

[Anonymous No.20265711]

>>20265649
I'd love to, but I drank all that some time ago. And it was a bit long ago to recall the finer details too.
Maybe when the spring releases roll around I'll pick up another sample and check it out, I'll still have the autumn cake then.

[Anonymous No.20265942]

burnt caramel, strawberry, earth... the 7562 is hitting good today!

[Anonymous No.20266040]

Why does Indian black tea get cloudy when chilled?
No sugar or milk or anything added.

[Anonymous No.20266093]

>>20266040
I guess it is tannins binding to some of the chemicals and becoming insoluble.

[Anonymous No.20266102]

>>20265591
Sounds like you're upset you don't have the means to experience what others can?

[Anonymous No.20266131]

I went to a local Asian market and grabbed an obscenely large bag of what looks to be "Teazone" black tea for like $3. Tastes alright. I've been brewing my stuff pseudo gongfu style and only get maybe 1-3 steeps with my portions, though. I think I'll try other Blacks from yunnan.

[Anonymous No.20266178]

>>20266131
if you want to level up your yunnan black game, you could order some of the stuff from fullchea that an anon has been shilling lately: https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/2019-chinese-tea-dianhong-honey-rhyme-gold-screw-black-tea-red-teas-200g-box
these should also be good:
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/2019-yunnan-old-tree-black-tea-dianhong-feng-qing-red-tea-cake-357g
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/2020-gold-buds-dian-hong-yunnan-black-tea-feng-qing-golden-melon-tuocha-dianhong-500g

[Anonymous No.20266352]

The Fullchea Ali store doesn't work anymore for some reason.
Any other worthwhile vendors on Ali?
I just want something with cheap shipping to place a small order to keep me alive till this years harvest.

[Anonymous No.20266363]

>>20260840

[Anonymous No.20267083]

>>20265591
I'm not >>20266102 and I think comments like that are unnecessary.
>Shit like "you can really hear the difference
I'm not familiar with the debate you're referring to. I know it's probably not convincing to you, but with yixing you really can taste a difference. My experience tells me that's the case, the few people I've spoken to in person agree, and everyone I've seen discussing yixing online seems to agree as well. If you ever get the chance, try it for yourself.
>But this is how it usually begins.
So should we not be allowed to discuss a few of Farmer Leaf's teas since people like to mythologize "gushu" in a similar way?

[Anonymous No.20267378]

>>20266352
Tea is banned from aliexpress so you aren't going to find good sellers there.
Fullchea will still let you pay through aliexpress if you email them a list of what you want they will make a custom listing on alix

[Anonymous No.20268315]

Tea.

[Anonymous No.20268538]

What do you like to do with your time during gongfu style session?

I've always brewed western style and then enjoyed the tea doing whatever, usually browsing the internet
But I find myself switching to gongfu style as I've gotten more into tea. I drink tea alone and not in a group.
I'm really enjoying exploring teas from around the world and I'm going to buy some tiny gaiwans so I can taste / compare teas in parallel.
It's nice to set aside some time for tea and I think it's good for the mind.
I'm thinking it would be better to get off the internet and be more mindful whilst enjoying the tea.

I've also trying to spend more time enjoying classical music (and to a lesser degree traditional music from around the world).
I thought this would be a nice thing to pair with tea tasting.
Maybe pair up music from the same region as the tea? (I don't know much about Chinese classical music though)
I thought about reading, but it would be a bit clumsy to do whilst preparing tea.

[Anonymous No.20268546]

>>20268538
I also like listening to music while drinking tea
as far as classical goes, there is that song cycle by Mahler based on Chinese poetry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeVxez6PWQI

[Anonymous No.20268886]

>>20268538
I always do a full gentoo emerge while sipping sum tea

[Anonymous No.20268889]

>>20267378
Any ebay sellers then, or generally online tea shops with free shipping?

[Anonymous No.20268904]

>>20268889
I think Farmerleaf has one of the lowest free shipping minimums at 30$. cspuerh has free delivery at 50$ and -20$ for first time purchase
Dragon tea house has cheap shipping IIRC

[Anonymous No.20269016]

>>20252468
Okay guys, since summer is here in a few months, I've been praticing my cold brews, and I recently found an excellent hibiscus tea that is just the right amount of sweet and tanic. Currently I just pour cold water into a mason jar, let it sit overnight (about 8 - 10 hours) and then pull out the tea.

But I really want to sweeten it up a bit with some honey, but the stuff I use isn't the imiatation kind, so it doesn't mix into cold tea. Do I just brew it the regular way, add some honey after it is finished brewing and then cool it down? or is there some way I don't know of?

My grandma' asked me to learn how to coldbrew since Arizona is too sweet for her, but a regular cold brew is too bitter.

[Anonymous No.20269071]

drinking this Duoteli First Grade liu bao
spicy, wood, nutty, dry book paper vanilla, dark chocolate, roasty, just a touch of that beetroot and a quick though short sweet aftertaste
any reccs for some more good liu bao? doesn't have to be old

[Anonymous No.20269107]

>>20252468
If you do not add Upton tea to the reentry there is a chance Americans may die! Good luck jack Bauer.

[Anonymous No.20269111]

>>20269071
Where did you pick that up? I want some
Kinda pricey but this stuff is great if you like the deep chocolate tones
https://purplecloudteahouse.com/products/2015-2008-200g-black-box-liu-bao?_pos=2&_sid=6e1ba371c&_ss=r
They have a pretty wide liubao selection for a us vendor.
Puerhshop has some recent liubao additions, haven't had a chance to try them
https://www.puerhshop.com/new/index.php?route=product/category&path=35
The big basket three cranes liubaos that YS offers are worth trying.
If you haven't tried a liubao that has spent a good number of years ageing in Wuzhou you definitely should.
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/guangxi-liu-bao-tea/products/2014-three-cranes-45007-recipe-traditional-liu-bao-hei-cha-of-guangxi
This one sounds fun too
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/guangxi-liu-bao-tea/products/2019-three-cranes-75117-high-mountain-liu-bao-tea

[Anonymous No.20269127]

>>20269016
Regular honey won't mix well into ice cold things, but if you mix honey in just hot water and try to fully dissolve it, it will incorporate much better into cold things. Let the water cool afterwards so you don't have to add more ice. Try a little honey and a lot of water (1/6 ratio) and step up the amount of honey if you think the water can handle it without getting too thick.

[Anonymous No.20269133]

>>20269111
thanks! I also saw chawangshop has some cheap Three Cranes basket
I got the Duoteli at TheTea.pl, but it's sold out now. they still have some Worker's Stadium though

[Anonymous No.20269135]

>>20268904
Ended up buying from them. I just noticed that I bought a wuyi rock sampler from them years ago.
And while the ebay shop doesn't exist anymore, they have a website. Completely in russian. But surprisingly enough they accept PayPal.
https://tea-expert.net/
maybe worth a notice in the pastebin

[Anonymous No.20269167]

Any chemistry geniuses here? How come that when I add milk or cream to indian tea, it turns a lovely caramel colour, but when I do the same to chinese blacks or pu'er, it just becomes pale?

[Anonymous No.20269175]

>>20269135
these are the teas I ordered

[Anonymous No.20269177]

>>20269175
The oolong sampler is the same I bought back on ebay. It's "duckshit" not wuyi

[Anonymous No.20269181]

>>20269133
Chawangshop isint the cheapest but the guy usually picks nice teas to stock.
This tea is pretty interesting for a liubao, pretty intense with some more prominent bitter notes also chocolate
https://www.chawangshop.com/hei-cha/guangxi-liubao-cha/2014-2018-three-cranes-brand-ye-yun-gu-shu-liubao-brick-tea-50g.html
This can is full on beetroot soil cellar flavors,
https://www.chawangshop.com/hei-cha/guangxi-liubao-cha/2014-2010-china-tea-t1101-first-grade-liubao-tea-150g.html

[Anonymous No.20269214]

>>20269127
That is such a stupid simple solution, I don't know how I didn't come up with it myself, cheers anon, I'll put over a batch overnight and see how it works out!

[Anonymous No.20269215]

>>20269175
they have interesting theme teas

[Anonymous No.20269233]

>>20269215
Fuck. I bought those commie teas. Ended up spending almost 100€ on tea, even though this was supposed to be "a small order"

[Anonymous No.20269241]

What are the actual advantages of tuos, if any? Compared to bings, they seem to me more expensive, less space-efficient, and harder to break apart.

[Anonymous No.20269415]

>>20269241
If you actually buy then for Chinese domestic market prices they are pretty cheap (like $10-$20 for a sleeve). They tend to be heavily marked up by western facing vendors.
The tuo shqpe has supposedly been around for a long time, im not sure why it originated but its possible it was developed so people could spend less money at a time and purchase a smaller amout of tea. Its possible its just some regional tradition. I think they used to be packaged in longer sleeves made out of bamboo and its possible the long narrow tubes were easier to transport on horseback.

[Anonymous No.20269523]

>>20269214
It's a trick from baking, won't mix well with the other wet ingredients so you mix it with some hot water. Hope it works for you, just try and find the goldie locks zone between water and honey so it doesn't dilute the tea to much.

[Anonymous No.20269614]

>>20269523
For sure! cheers anon, I really do appreciate it!

[Anonymous No.20269776]

>>20268538
I started blasting tibetan throat singing for a laugh, some of it's terrible (there's guys doing lame euro metal with tibetan shit mixed in) some of it's alright.
Maybe I'll hit up Hawaiian stuff next.

[Anonymous No.20269784]

What's the verdict on zhu tang?
Worth the money or just get fa zhan he instead?

[Anonymous No.20269810]

>>20269784
For the same price range I liked the Tang Fang Liang Zi more than Zhu Tang. This year Fa Zhan He is good for the price and has quality of mid range, it's preference between fa zhan he and other good mid range on the site honestly. Depends on what you like or looking for specifically.

[Anonymous No.20269842]

>>20269784
I got a free sample, I can write some impressions tomorrow if you want. I had two sessions with it so far and one of them impressed me, the other I didn't enjoy as much.
If I recall correctly it has a really good floral aroma

[Anonymous No.20269859]

>>20269776
Gregorian chants

[Anonymous No.20269894]

>>20268538
>>20269776
I like listening to traditional yunnan folk songs. Really enhances the mood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70-EcKmrpOo

[Anonymous No.20269938]

This is my very favorite tea I've ever had: https://yunnansourcing.com/products/2017-yunnan-sourcing-gu-shu-bai-cha-old-arbor-raw-pu-erh-tea-cake
It's the only tea that's ever given my a distinct and appreciable head-change (a high?), and the taste/aroma are wonderfully complex. I'll do a proper writeup next time I break it out.

Unfortunately the prices have gotten obscene over the past few years, and YS appears to have stopped producing that line-up entirely. Anyone have a recommendation for a similar sheng on a budget?

[Anonymous No.20269977]

>>20269938
We might need that writeup before being able to recommend a similar sheng, even if it's specifically a similar cha qi you're chasing.

[Anonymous No.20270002]

>>20269810
honestly the 2023 Tang Fang Liang Zi sample I got hasn't impressed me so far, I find it a little boring

[Anonymous No.20270004]

>>20269938
>a Jinggu varietal called Camellia Assamica Taliensis that is very large and features hairy white buds
Taliensis puer isn't super common but it shoild be possible to dig some up.
Yeah YS yearly price hikes on puer is a bitch.

[Anonymous No.20270026]

>>20270004
speaking of pricing, I've noticed the price on some Dayi productions on Kingteamall has gone done recently, a rare sight
for example, I'm sure the 2023 7572 was 29 and not 26$ and when I bought my 7562 it was I think 17.50 and not 15$
I'm not sure what's the cause of this

[Anonymous No.20270038]

>>20270002
I had to push it a little more than usual to enjoy it myself. Best sample was the ao no me but not any cakes left to buy...

[Anonymous No.20270054]

>>20270038
yeah the ao no me sold out fast. I'm excited to try the Nannuo sample they gave me as a freebie, it will be one of the more expensive raws I've tried and it should be more up my alley than the Tang Fang Liang Zi (I tend to prefer more agressive raws and the Menghai area in general)

[Anonymous No.20270062]

>>20270054
Lao man e might be good for you then I had a sample too of it one of the cheaper cakes but had the characteristic bitterness. Better to soft brew strong ones than over brew soft ones to get the strong mouth feel imo

[Anonymous No.20270074]

>>20270062
Yeah I got the fall cake. It's good stuff, strong mouthfeel, savory, mineral, unique fragrance. I'll have to try the spring one at some point.

[Anonymous No.20270084]

>>20270074
The new spring 2024 lao man e might be expensive, I don't know how much you can put into a cake. The 2023 spring was really good for teas I don't know if 2024 will be as good. Spring 2023 small trees for lao man e is 100$ or something like that might be the best ratio price/quality at the moment on the shop. I'm waiting for the next release for spring in few months for my next order, I made big orders with the 2 discounts last year. Will see the new releases i'll looking for new areas to try. Hope to get some oolongs back too from ailao i'm running low.

[Anonymous No.20270134]

>>20249615
Sorry I was banned for being too based, and also too based to cycle my router, and then I forgot about this thread because I didn't have this browser open.

I'm guessing most people have never thought about this but I'm glad you found it based, and the answer to your question is I don't know probably depends on what trace amount of caffeine needs to be in there to count.

[Anonymous No.20270169]

>>20269167
>but when I do the same to chinese blacks or pu'er, it just becomes pale?
because you havent steeped those long enough yet and/or too leave tea. (i drink those with milk and boil it on a stove) Need to brew it extra strong when adding milk. Indian teas need steeping time and idk why. Their taste is also more concentrated with shorter steeping times. but they are less viscous than chinese blacks and puerh.

[Anonymous No.20270173]

>>20269167
>and/or too leave tea. (
and/or too little tea.
>>20270169
>Indian teas need steeping time
indian teas need less steeping time.* fucking esl.

[Anonymous No.20270205]

Why aren't you using tea intravenously?
http://textfiles.com/food/iced.tea

[Anonymous No.20270239]

>>20270205
dont need to, i take caffeine pills.

[Anonymous No.20270529]

about to crack my second cake of fall 23 lao man e from farmer leaf.
Good stuff, its got some real energy behind it.
I would love to taste some lao man e with about 20 years of clean taiwan storage on it. I bet it would get pretty sweet in the right environment.

[Anonymous No.20270658]

>>20270529
Sounds like that was the real Autumn winner from FL. I need a cake.

[Anonymous No.20270657]

>>20269776
>some of it's terrible (there's guys doing lame euro metal with tibetan shit mixed in)
are you talking about sunn o))). i love sunn o))). that and earth and other doom metal i think is great for drinking tea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd0qWHoFShk

[Anonymous No.20270671]

Breasts that leak tea

[Anonymous No.20270689]

>>20270671
Teats.

[Anonymous No.20270691]

>>20270671

[Anonymous No.20270692]

>>20270671

[Anonymous No.20270701]

>>20270692
do these things not grow mold inside them?

[Anonymous No.20270785]

>>20270657
Nah, sunn o))) isnt for me but I wouldn't call them lame or terrible.
I misremembered as tibetan but it's actually mongolian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4xZUr0BEfE

[Anonymous No.20270865]

Newfag here. Currently in Nepal, are there any good tea that you guys recommend I try?

[Anonymous No.20270876]

>>20270865
Yorkshire Gold

[Anonymous No.20270890]

>>20270865
Nepal makes a decent amout of plantation tea, similar in style to Indian teas but also somewhat distinct. Just try and find some locally produced black or green tea. Look for teas with large whole leaves and not crushed small pieces.
Im not really sure what the tea culture is like or where you would go to source nice teas. Maybe if you look around you can find a tea shop near you.

[Anonymous No.20270904]

>>20269111
My first experience with liu bao was a 100g sample of 45007 that I recently finished. A few days later I had to order some more because I was fiending for that shit. I got the 75117 as well, it just came in today and I'm enjoying it. I'll have to do a side by side comparison of the two soon.

[Anonymous No.20270968]

>>20270904
>My first experience with liu bao was a 100g sample of 45007 that I recently finished
Good choice.
I really think that a solid few years of humid storage is really the way liubao is meant to be.

[Anonymous No.20271012]

>>20270691
>>20270692
Now we need one that squats over the cup and pees in it

[Anonymous No.20271620]

>>20270865
Jun Chiyabari makes some good black teas, the Imperial Black I've had was great
perhaps you might be able to get some very early darjeeling style blacks?

[Anonymous No.20271721]

>>20269784
trying the Zhu Tang today. it's quite sweet, sugar bean, strongly floral aroma. on the soft and gentle side. for my taste Fa Zhan He is better value, less sweet and floral but with that nice citrusy aftertaste. if you want an upfront sweet sheng with strong florals, the Zhu Tang isn't a bad choice though.

[Anonymous No.20271876]

>>20269523
Okay it didn't turn out exactly the way I wanted it to, I think I could've used more tea leaves, let it steep for longer and a bit more honey, but all things considered it is pretty decent for a first try. I've racked some more tea for tomorrow, so hopefully it'll turn out better!

[Anonymous No.20272219]

>>20270904
God i want to try it now, tea budget is rinsed
Anyone know if there's any good liubao at fullchea or DTH?

[Anonymous No.20272302]

>>20269175
lookin forward to this commie shu brick

[Anonymous No.20272309]

>>20272302
>77 лeт
how is this? if youre serious

[Anonymous No.20272326]

>>20272309
*how much is this*

[Anonymous No.20272371]

>>20272309
It's referring to the 77th anniversary of the end of WW2.

[Anonymous No.20272382]

>>20272371
ah that makes more sense

[Anonymous No.20272395]

>>20272309
The brick is 250g I think. bought 3 of em.
Also bought this Stalin 100g sheng cake for the lulz. Though just one since I don't really have the ideal storage for aging puerh.
shou is something I can always drink. can't do much wrong I guess.

[Anonymous No.20272399]

>>20272395
shou is my favorite as well. let me know how it is when it comes and ill think about picking up one of these silly bricks

[Anonymous No.20272430]

>>20272399
I will.
The duck shit oolong sampler was pretty decent as far as I can remember. Someone posted the Ebay link ITT back in 2021 when that seller still was on that platform.

Now for what was initially intended as a small order before the spring plucking, ended up draining me short of 100 shekels.
I placed 2 consecutive orders with a value which should usually get me free shipping.
I asked them to refund that amount and they set they'll instead send me another tea of the same value.

Let's see how it goes. I want to believe that there are some honest chink merchants out there. It's not aliexpress after all.

[Anonymous No.20272450]

Why the different inventories between YS .com and .us?

[Anonymous No.20272452]

>>20272399
Here's your mass murder commie sheng cake https://tea-expert.net/magazin-kitajskogo-chaya/puer/00162-cn-rus-agreement-72yr-100
I never really got into sheng for some reason. I always found them too bitter and overall dry tasting. Regardless of manufacturer - Taetea etc.
I think it just comes down to my suboptimal storage condtitions. Western europe is just too cool and dry so the tea loses its character.

I thought about trying to put the tea in an airtight cupboard with some kind humidifier. Thoughts

[Anonymous No.20272457]

>>20272452

[Anonymous No.20272495]

>>20272450
.us has a smaller selection, but ships from Texas. .com has the full inventory and newer stuff, but ships from China

[Anonymous No.20272543]

To all yurop and amerifags. Do you have some trick to keep your puerh from drying out?
How do you keep your storage room correctly humidified? https://teadb.org/why-shelf-puerh-storage-in-the-west-is-usually-bad/#more-6100 https://teadb.org/why-shelf-puerh-storage-in-the-west-is-usually-bad/#more-6100

[Anonymous No.20272551]

>>20272543
Buy a boveda pack.

[Anonymous No.20272554]

>>20272395
>The brick is 250g I think. bought 3 of em.
Good man. Three samples. Looking forward to your thoughts. You should think about getting a pumidor.

Speaking of pumidors, I think I'm going to try adding a heating element to one for a while as an experiment. Not too crazy, maybe 80 degrees F or so. Probably also introduce a fan for circulation. At 65 Rh, that makes the dew point close to room temp. I would probably need to have a cool-down period before pulling cakes out from it. Anybody else playing with active heating?

[Anonymous No.20272650]

Speaking of tea expert he added this really bud heavy mengku ronshi shu recently that's only $31 a cake.
It is from their ying de sub branch and not the main factory but it might be fun to try and see how it stacks up to their more premium ripes.
https://tea-expert.net/magazin-kitajskogo-chaya/puer/00190-mu-ye-chun-001-2022?sort=p.price&order=ASC
Also he has some little 100g tea cakes he pressed himself
https://tea-expert.net/magazin-kitajskogo-chaya/puer/10154-nie-qun-ba-da-shan-2022?sort=p.price&order=ASC

[Anonymous No.20272659]

>>20272543
People in the west usually store puer in large sealed boxes where humidity can be controlled.
There is info in the pastebin

[Anonymous No.20272784]

>>20272450
Just in case you are a Canadian (or a Euro thinking of ordering from .us for whatever reason), it's cheaper and not usually much slower to order from the .com site. Of course there is always the chance that your order will mysteriously wait around in China for months.

[Anonymous No.20272975]

looking for north korean tea. any kind. mostly just for the hell of it. especially if its sheng or shou and has a nationalist wrapper.

[Anonymous No.20273016]

>>20272551
I saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPAXhVBGCLw
basically there are people building self regulating "pumidors" themselfes
might be an interesting tarduino project. The duino moitors humidity and temperature and regulates everything to the set values

[Anonymous No.20273035]

>>20273016
I meant ESP. So I can monitor my tea over the wifi

[Anonymous No.20273350]

>>20272551
How big should the container be for such a 30g pack and maybe ~3 300g cakes?

[Anonymous No.20273401]

>>20273350
For 3 cakes it might be easier to just get a 2 or 5 gallon mylar bag and stuff them all in it.
A full sized cake is like 7.5 inches wide and maybe 2 inches deep, so you could also look for some plastic food storage tub that would fit it.
Lots of people also use various sizes of coolers to hold their teas.
If you grocery store sells the large plastic bags for turkeys those are a really cheap solution.
Whatever you decide to use give it a good wash with some water with a splash of white vinegar in it open it and stick it next to a window for a few days, make sure it doesn't stink like plastic or the tea could pick up those smells. Washing should be unnecessary for mylar bags but you still probably want to open them and air them out a bit

[Anonymous No.20273520]

What does good ripe puer taste like?

[Anonymous No.20273547]

>>20273520
Black forest cake.

[Anonymous No.20273557]

>>20273520
Earth, bread dough / cookie dough, creamy, dark chocolate, burnt caramel, wood, forest floor, some red fruit sometimes
Notably it can be really thicc like an espresso (strong body) and there is a mix between the sweeter pastry flavors and the woody and earthy ones

[Anonymous No.20273673]

>>20273557
This really interests me, but I've only had fishy ripe with faint taste of nothing with nothing.

[Anonymous No.20273701]

>>20273673
which ones have you had? some people just find all ripe fishy and nasty by default, but to me good ripe isn't fishy

[Anonymous No.20273741]

>>20273701
https://yunnansourcing.com/products/2021-yunnan-sourcing-cozy-ripe-pu-erh-tea-cake
I've been drinking this sample

[Anonymous No.20273751]

>>20273673
Buy a 100g portion of this if you wanna know what good ripe has to offer
https://tea-expert.net/mengku/00135-mengku-bojun-2020?page=2
Maybe throw in 100g of this too for free shipping and to try a nice modern factory raw
https://tea-expert.net/mengku/10098-benwei-dacheng-1kg-2020

[Anonymous No.20273777]

>>20273741
Shouldn't be too bad. Maybe let it rest for a while? I feel like sometimes the fermentation taste gets stirred up during shipping

[Anonymous No.20274307]

>>20272543
>>20272551
An alternative to boveda:
https://www.teaforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=177
I "borrowed" some tyvek from my workplace and used that to cover small mason jars (that I already had) filled with the salt water sugar mix.
If you have to buy the tyvek and jars it might not be worth it over just buying a boveda.
My pumidors have maintained a pretty constant 63-66% rh with these.
In the past year or so (since I started using these improvised bovedas) I've had to add a tiny bit of water to the jars only one time when the humidity started to drop.

[Anonymous No.20274357]

How do these youtubers immediately drink boiling hot tea without waiting 5 minutes for it to cool

[Anonymous No.20274390]

>>20274357
i can do this. its a mix of getting used to drinking hot liquids and also because you are pouring a fairly small amount of tea into a small cup or into a pitcher and then into a cup, meaning it cools quickly and a lot of heat is lost between the pours into different containers.

[Anonymous No.20274475]

>>20274357
The secret is to pour the tea into a fairness pitcher, then then from there into several smaller cups. Then it will be more cool quicker.
Also just do it, slurp aggressively to airate and cool the tea, don't glup it and it's not that bad.

[Anonymous No.20274552]

Why does everyone seem to use a glass pitcher instead of ceramic?

[Anonymous No.20274565]

>>20274357
When brewing small volumes like you do with gongfu brewing the tea cools much faster than larger volumes. Also high pouring or pouring multiple times speeds up cooling.

[Anonymous No.20274568]

>>20274552
It is transparent so you can see the color of the tea better.

[Anonymous No.20274687]

>>20274552
so you can see the tea like the other anon said and so it cools quicker so you can drink it faster, because glass does not retain heat as well and more is dispersed into the air

[Anonymous No.20274699]

i left a tea cold brewing for like 72 hours. i'm gonna get diarrhea when i drink this, aren't i?

[Anonymous No.20274863]

>>20274699
This is truly the next step after omorashi

[Anonymous No.20274891]

>>20274699
ripe puer aged 20 years cold brewed for one month (reaction)

[Anonymous No.20275033]

1am drinking puer

[Anonymous No.20275112]

>>20275033
when you think about it it really is the best feeling

[Anonymous No.20275290]

>>20273401
Thank you anon. I'll definetely look into that.

[Anonymous No.20275291]

I keep making embarrassing posts while tea drunk

[Anonymous No.20275316]

Would you describe xiaguan funk in ripes as animal-y/leathery? I only had a sheng from XG but two shous from moychay have the aforementioned distinctive flavor profile.

Next purchase will be from KTM, if my yuropoor bank allows payment (refused to YS). I never had big factory names standard recipes and it's a shame.

[Anonymous No.20275443]

>>20275316
What year/series was your funky XG ripe? Asking because my 2014 Xiao Fa had zero funk so I'm curious.

[Anonymous No.20275446]

>>20275316
>I never had big factory names standard recipes and it's a shame.
lately Dayi prices on KTM have decreased a bit, so it's not a bad time to grab some cakes
for Xiaguan I can recommend the 2008 tuo in the pink box, I quite enjoy it

[Anonymous No.20275481]

Are milk oolongs a meme (for those who enjoy oolong?) I've always wanted to try one but never got around to it.

[Anonymous No.20275488]

>>20275481
I like unflavored Jin Xuan varietal. the flavored stuff varies though, sometimes the added flavoring is really nasty and synthetic smelling

[Anonymous No.20275492]

>>20275488
Unflavored would be best for me, I am sensitive to artificial flavors at the best of times. Thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.20275644]

just chipped my gaiwan... thankfully it's only a small chip, so it's still usable

[Anonymous No.20275649]

>>20275443
2012, zero funk either. Was sheng and I don't like sheng.

>>20275446
I guess I looked up KTM after your post. I'm too broke to justify ordering now, I hope prices won't go up too much.

[Anonymous No.20275660]

>>20275649
for ripe you'd probably want to try a Dayi 7572 (2023 one is the cheapest), a V93 tuo, maybe one of the larger leaf recipes like 8592
from Haiwan, 9978 is nice
from CNNP, 7581 and from Xiaguan the Xiao Fa Tuo

[Anonymous No.20275710]

>>20275660
Noted, thanks. I'm also a big fan of lao cha tou and they have by far the largest selection I've ever seen. But for now I'll drink my moychay and the remains of YS orders.

[Anonymous No.20275749]

>>20275710
will you buy the 5kg carton of Haiwan lao cha tou?

[Anonymous No.20275797]

>>20275749
Lolno that's almost a year worth of tea and I'm too broke anyway. I might get a sample, though.

[Anonymous No.20275825]

>>20275797
there's also a half kilo brick of these. could be cool to compare to the Dayi brick

[Anonymous No.20276003]

>>20275316
>Next purchase will be from KTM, if my yuropoor bank allows payment (refused to YS).
Why not buy right from the source? You will get fucked over by shipping either way, you might as well save some money

[Anonymous No.20276094]

What type of tea is this? It’s labeled as white but ive never seen one like this.

[Anonymous No.20276110]

>>20276094
Looks like silver needles

[Anonymous No.20276117]

>>20275316
Anon once described the house funk as mushroom brothy. I think that's the most accurate, especially for sheng. Older tuos, ripe or raw, will have a distinct aged smoke note. One might consider that duo profile as their distinctive funk that gradually evolved to have much less smoke.
I'm a Xiaguan fan, fwiw.

[Anonymous No.20276131]

>>20276110
No needles, dunno if you can see on this shitty pic

[Anonymous No.20276135]

>>20276110

[Anonymous No.20276167]

>>20276094
>>20276131
Silver needles. It's called that because the leaves look like needles, not because it's actually needles.

[Anonymous No.20276173]

>>20276167
Dont the “needles” usually end up in the tea? Mine isnt nearly as fluffy as i would imagine silver needle is

[Anonymous No.20276194]

Bought the 2014 Haiwan 9948, I wasn't expecting much at $20, but it's just bad.
It has almost no taste, just tastes old.
Like ripe but without the funk that makes me gag.
I will stay with young sheng.

[Anonymous No.20276308]

>>20276173
In my experience the fluff/hairs/needles don't usually make it past the strainer. Were the dry leaves fluffy?

[Anonymous No.20276317]

>>20276194
Maybe make it stronger? For a raw that age I would expect plum or apricot fruitiness and some wood

[Anonymous No.20276329]

Complete outsider to tea and not really interested, but after seeing the current state of 4chan I just wanted to drop by and say that this is the highest quality thread I have ever seen. I hope you lads continue on forever.

[Anonymous No.20276400]

>>20276329
Maybe you should try some ripe puer anon..

[Anonymous No.20276701]

>>20276308
A little bit. The bag says white pu erh king. Can a white tea be pu erh?

[Anonymous No.20276730]

>>20276701
Sometimes you hear "white puerh" to mean white tea made from leaves that come from trees they usually make puerh from. It's just a marketing term really, it's not processed like puerh.
As a guess this might also explain why it's not very fluffy, different cultivar.
For comparison
https://yunnansourcing.com/en-gb/products/assamica-sun-dried-silver-needles-white-pu-erh-tea

[Anonymous No.20276737]

>>20276701
it definitely doesn't look like a pu-erh to me, the picking is too even. I think it is silver needles, maybe from the pu-erh province

[Anonymous No.20276788]

Your favourite black tea with milk?

[Anonymous No.20276812]

What's the kind of tea I get in Chinese restaurants? I thought it was just fancy chamomile

[Anonymous No.20276815]

>>20276788
CTC assam

[Anonymous No.20276821]

>>20276812
Its usually cheap roasted tieguyanyin brewed very weakly.

[Anonymous No.20276877]

>>20276730
Appreciate it. While i have you here. Yunan sourcing doesnt ship to my country :(. What other websites do you recommend for a good variety of chinese teas?

[Anonymous No.20276915]

>>20276877
If you can't use YS, you can check out
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/
But watch out, they stock pretty good tea and also terrible tea. So don't buy the cheapest stuff, and you might want to post what you're ordering in the thread first. With those provisos it's a pretty good shop imo.

>>20276812
Maybe that's chrysanthemum? I usually end up with cheap slightly pile-smelling ripe.

[Anonymous No.20277261]

>>20276701
Maybe it's white tea from somewhere near Pu'er City? I dunno,.

[Anonymous No.20277328]

>>20276329
Cheers!
>>20276400
First hit's free, kid

[Anonymous No.20277368]

>>20276877
Kingteamall has good variety too. there's also white2tea if you don't mind the hipster craft beer marketing. I guess it depends where you're at

[Anonymous No.20278533]

>>20275749
Too pricey. Lao cha tou shouldn't be more expensive than the opposite. BTW, is there a succinct term for the part of the wet pile output that isn't lao cha tou?

[Anonymous No.20278595]

>>20276812
Jasmine tea.

[Anonymous No.20278685]

>>20278533
It'd be maocha I think.

[Anonymous No.20278826]

>>20278685
That's a little broad, but probably not wrong.

[Anonymous No.20279247]

Midnight ripe. Start the day off with a little treat.

[Anonymous No.20279358]

new thread incoming

[Anonymous No.20279364]

>>20252468
NEW
>>20279363
>>20279363
>>20279363

[Anonymous No.20279509]

>>20276788
Ostfriesentee