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What's /ck/'s opinion on cast iron? Are the mongoloids who spend half of their lives cleaning rust off of their shitty pans that they can't ever wash on to something?

>> No.20230410

>>20230352
Positive.

>> No.20230447

it's pretty good but it's mogged by carbon steel in literally every single way
also you can clean both of them with soap. that "never use soap!" thing is a holdover from when soaps were more caustic. modern dish soap won't impact the seasoning in any way, just watch your fucking cast iron/carbon steel

>> No.20230489

Unless I'm cooking over a campfire or can get one for free, I don't see why you would choose it over carbon steel or stainless. But all three can perform about the same if that's what you're asking.

>> No.20230505

>>20230352
>Buy cast iron skillet
>use once, wash, put away
>pull it out to use it again
>covered in rust
>into the dumpster
Yeah, we invented stainless steel for a reason.

>> No.20230515

>>20230352
It's nice but it's too much work to maintain. Carbon steel is too. I have given up and just buy new teflon every couple years.

>> No.20230517

good object for bludgeoning with, though inconvenient as a cooking implement

>> No.20230524

>>20230352
you fellas might just be retarded

>> No.20230941

>>20230447
Except price, I can't seem to find a carbon pan for less than 50, meanwhilee cast iron can be found new for like 10-15 at stores and you can pick up rusted pieces at thrift stores for 1or 2$.
For the price of 2 carbon steel pans I can get a full set of cast iron of 2 pans, a dutch oven, skillet and some little sauce pans and still have money left over for a SS pot.

While CS is superior, I'll admit, cast iron is more than adequate if you're not retarded. You don't need to autistically season it, I never season mine, the nonstick is more about the heat level, like SS.

>> No.20231047

>>20230505
To imitate silver cutlery that didn't tarnish was the motivation for inventing stainless steel. A protective coating for aluminium and/or copper cooking surfaces was never the original intention.

>> No.20231122

>>20230352
the only way I can do a good stir fry on western stove tops is with my extremely heavy cast iron wok

>> No.20231124

I just don't understand why someone would use it over modern stainless steel..

>> No.20231134

>>20231124
it works better

>> No.20231204

>>20231122
I duct tape my propane brush fire starter to a stump and use a stand that holds my wok right above it. Works better than anything anyone has ever invented

>> No.20231217

>>20231124
When comparing Lodge with Demeyere: cast iron does a better job of forming a crust on the meat that easily let's go of the surface before burning even without adding butter or oil. Cast iron also becomes almost non-stick for omelettes, salmon and pancakes when using only a little bit of butter. Demeyere is amazing for caramelizing onions, making sauces, soups and stews when meat is added later.

>> No.20231218

>>20231217

>Cast iron also becomes almost non-stick for omelettes, salmon and pancakes when using only a little bit of butter

Yeah you COULD use it like a non-stick, but the amount babying you have to do to maintain that seasoning is fucking annoying when you can just simply pull out a standard non-stick for those purposes.. Like why the fuck would you ever want to make pancakes in a cast iron?

>cast iron does a better job of forming a crust on the meat that easily let's go of the surface

oh come on how much 'better'

>> No.20231229

>>20231218
>amount babying you have to do
None. It's a misunderstanding created by social media and impatience. I don't season the pan. At all. The true anti-stick properties develop after years of regular use.

>oh come on how much 'better'
No worries just heat the iron throw in the meat and wait a few minutes amount of better versus getting anxious because the meat is still stuck and the fond is blackening amount of worse.

>> No.20231299

/ck/ are a bunch of morons who overcomplicate everything and believe all the memes.
Cast Iron is heavy duty and durable.
>Use it
>Wash it
>Dry it
>Wipe with oil
That's all you have to do.

>> No.20231473

>>20231299
>Use it
Hard and unpleasant to use due to weight, high heat retention, and hot handle
>Wash it
Hard and unpleasant to wash cause you can't use soap, sponges, or abrasives
>Dry it
Annoying and unpleasant since you can't just give it a towel wipe and leave, it needs to be heated to remove every speck of water
>Wipe with oil
Annoying extrastep that other materials do not require.

You probably spend extra 10-15 minutes on every cook with cast iron compared to stainless, thats like 5000 minutes a year. Thats like 3-4 days every year you dedicate solely to a chunk of dirty metal.

>> No.20231475

>>20231473
Are you one of those people they show in infomercials screwing shit up before they start advertising their product?

>> No.20231485

>>20231473
You can use soap and sponges you fucking moron. You cretin. You shit eating illiterate mongoloid. Modern soap is harmless to cast iron.

>> No.20231576

>>20231299
im willing to bet 90% of people who shit on cast iron have never actually used one.

>> No.20231595

>>20230941
U don't want cheap carbon. Matfer or debuyer, the cheap ones are thin.

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>>20230352
luv me cast iron skillet, i use it almost everyday

>> No.20231911

>>20231204
What kind of pan? I might actually do this

>> No.20231915

>$15 lodge pan
>use it constantly
>is a better non-stick than any "non stick" pan
>will last forever

>> No.20231919

>>20231915
Made in South Pittsburg, Tennessee too

>> No.20231931

>>20230352
What's up with people on here not liking cast iron? You just run it under hot water, use a scratchpad, dry it off, oil it and heat it for a couple minutes. What the fuck is so hard about that

>> No.20231944

>>20231931
Le trolling

I have a cast iron
Don't use it much since I got a carbon. They both do good things.

>> No.20231962
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>>20231124
Do you know how much a THICK multi plated SS costs? A lot more than a $20 cast iron. Your little thin cuck pan doesn't have the same applications as a cast. I have a cast iron pan and Dutch and I use them more than anything.

>> No.20231966

>>20231931
/ck/ is full of cooklets and their single mothers did all the chores growing up so they are just throwing frozen food in the pan, burning it, then getting mad because they don't know how to clean it

>> No.20231970

>>20231299
>Wipe with oil
This isn't necessary, you might want to do this like once a month.

>> No.20231978

>>20231962
>being this poor

>> No.20231982

>>20230505

>Buy cast iron skillet
>use once, wash, put away

you just have to oil it up you stupid fuck

>> No.20231986

>>20231931
It's too heavy

>> No.20231989

>>20231978
You don't spend abhorrent amounts of money on cookware, you want the cheapest tools that do the most things. You guys buy a bunch of stupid shit then never cook.

>> No.20231995

>>20231986
Get your boyfriend to lift it for you.

>> No.20232002

>>20231989
no anon, i decided for me a long time ago that i will not buy shit tools to save 5 dollar, maybe if its for an experimental one off job.
pic one
>be annoyed or frustrated every time you need to rely on something
>"invest" the savings in a sixpack
hard choice there

>> No.20232054

>>20231995
You're not saute flipping in a cast pan. You can do that with carbon.

>> No.20232096

>>20230352
>What's /ck/'s opinion on cast iron?
It's cast iron, default cookware since metal cookware invention.
Good for non-acidic stuff.
95% as non-stick as non-stick pan.
Rusts if wet for long periods of time -> not dishwasher safe.
Heavy.
Induction-ready.
>Are the mongoloids who spend half of their lives cleaning rust off of their shitty pans that they can't ever wash on to something?
You can wash it without any issues, given you wipe it off dry.
As for rust, it depends how bad you get it. If it is just a bit of rust, you can remove it with wire wool and some soap, and then oil it. If its like on the OP-pic, you'd have to acid dip the shit or wire-wheel or whatever, but you find pans in this condition usually at scrap yard.
>>20231124
SS is more sticky. Ideally you need two, cast iron/carbon steel and stainless.

>> No.20232473

>>20231962
How much of a thirdie are you if you're unable to spend 100-150$ on something that will easily last at least 15 years?

>> No.20232500

>>20231642
>no oil
What the hell anon?

>> No.20232564

>>20231642
the hideous, omnipresent rust in everything you ever try to cook is what makes the cast iron difference.

>> No.20232593

>>20230352
Kind of a miracle piece of technology. You cook, briefly rinse, and you're done. You can cook a steak on it and not rinse it and the next one will taste better.

1-2 times a year scrub it good, oil it, and bake it ~400F for an hour.

After 10 years of using these I've probably spent a full day NOT cleaning pans that I'd have otherwise spent.

>> No.20232596

>>20232593
Do you enjoy the taste of rust for some reason or are you just a corporate shill for Lodge and their shit pans?

>> No.20232609

>>20231931
>You just run it under hot water, use a scratchpad, dry it off, oil it and heat it for a couple minutes.

If you season it properly to begin with, you don't need to oil and heat every time you use it. I wash mine with a scrubby sponge and a few drops of dish soap after every use, dry it and put it away. It's slick enough that I can fry an egg and slide it onto the plate without a spatula.

>> No.20232629

>>20230352
Cast Iron is based

Here is how to clean cast iron
>wash with soap (yes you can use modern soap like Dawn)
>dry with a towel
>heat up pan to get rid of excess moisture
>put thin layer of canola oil on it

its really that easy, its the most forgiving pan you can buy

>> No.20232633

>>20232054
What does that have to do with getting a boyfriend

>> No.20232634

Good for making Cajun food without giving you tauopathies like Magnalite

>> No.20232696

>>20232596
I've got two. The one that I left outside in the grill began to rust. I hit it with a wire brush and oiled it and it was fine after that. The main pan has not rusted.

>> No.20232700

>>20232629
Too much work. Just rinse and dry it. 20 seconds. Much of
the appeal is that you don't have to clean anything after using it.

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>>20231475

>> No.20232921

>>20230352
I use it for specific situations like searing meat, making eggs, cooking bacon, etc.
But outside of that I just use stainless steel.

>> No.20232950

>>20230352
Only own cast iron and copper pans. Would never buy anything else.

>> No.20233065

>>20232950
Do you live in the 1800's? Hey, if your time machine is still working don't give women the vote. It all goes downhill from there.

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>>20231475

>> No.20233321

>>20232473
How retarded are you that you won't spend 25$ on something that your great great grandchildren will still be using?

>> No.20233326

>>20232609
I rub some oil on mine every time just because I don't always know when I'll use it again and the oil helps provide a layer of protection against rust.

>> No.20233327

Cast iron is very low maintenance. Your grandma knew this.

>> No.20233330

>>20233321
People who shit on cast iron are cat co-parents, their genetic line ends here. Even if they could convince their live-in gf to get pregnant with their dysgenic child, well, you know what teflon does.

>> No.20233392

>>20232473
Why would you spend $150, if Zheng makes the same for $20.
>>20233065
Also don't give right to vote to ppl who don't own land.

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>>20231962
>>20233321
vintage iron is the way to go tbdesu. Lodge pans are good and very cheap, but nothing beats the smooth-as-a-baby's-ass hand machined and sanded surface of a 90 year old Griswold. Sure you might spend $40 or $50 on one and have to strip and reseason it, but like you say it'll last until the sun explodes.

>> No.20233975

>>20230352
Multiple cultures have independently concluded that rice is best cooked in a cast iron pot. Apparently the reaction between the rice and the iron creates a better flavor and texture.

>> No.20234037

>buy cheap nonstick pan
>it works
Why should I use anything else?

>> No.20234059

>>20234037
because it's hard to crawl up your own ass unless you have some kind of needlessly expensive obsession to use as leverage.

>> No.20234071

>>20234037
It works until you scrape it with knife, or overheat, or stick smth to it via user error...

>> No.20234204

>>20230352
does enamel solve that problem? just get that instead?

>> No.20234237

>>20233470
I have a small cast iron Wagner that was handed down to me, im the 3rd generation owner. from basic research it can be dated to between 1935-1959. So its between 65-89 years old. smooth as glass, as non stick as any modern pan and the only "extra" effort it takes to keep in good shape is to make sure i dry it before putting it away.

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>>20233975
>iron pot
Nah

>> No.20234245

I have some. It doesn't beat stainless or carbon enough to be better than either, and it is also very heavy and has shit stubby handles that get super hot. Can't cook with acids.

The weight matters more than you would think. You can no longer toss a stirfry or whatever, and it also makes it more annoying to wash.

All in all cast iron is just slightly worse in a bunch of different ways and when you add it all up it doesn't really look that good.

>> No.20234571

>>20231595
see, cheap cast iron works fine, when I see morons spend 80+ on a cast iron pan cause it's fancy I immediately think they don't actually cook and just get faggoty about seasoning.

I've used the same hunk of iron for like 8 years now, I got 2 more so I could cook more things and I've spent around 40 bucks total.

>> No.20234573

>>20232473
>100-150
>only lasts 15 years
Cast iron costs less than 20 and will outlast your and your kids if treated right.
There's being poor and then there's being a brainlet that wastes money.

>> No.20234583

>>20230505
>covered in rust
>into the dumpster
raised by a single mother tell.

>> No.20234657

Basically the hwhite man's wok. I would say that because of cast iron's better heat retention, they're actually better for stir-fries than woks for the typical home kitchen that can't provide enough heat for wok hei.

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20234696

I have a bunch of pans, but find I use my skillet far more than any other, to the point I pretty much never put it away. It just cooks everything so easily, cleans up in an instant and I love that if I want to quickly broil as well I can just toss the it in the oven.

>> No.20234710

>>20230352
your cast iron rusts?

>> No.20235522

They're good. Care is easy once you get in the rhythm and have the right tools. Takes a minute or two to scrub, dry, oil and put away. Still prefer a non-stick for a fast breakfast before work since it heats faster and cleaning is even quicker, but cast iron has its place. So does stainless steel. Idk why everyone wants one pan to do every single job. Are you all poor?

>> No.20235530

>>20231642
cooklet detected, didn't even season his steaks kek

>> No.20235533

>>20230352
no they aren't, sadly they are just morons that fell for a reddit meme. stainless is better in every way, cast iron is outdated technology.

>> No.20235537

>>20235530
Doesn't need to season them. His pan does it for him.

>> No.20235578

>>20230941
DARTO IS THE BEST.

>> No.20235767

>>20230505
>>20231473
>>20231642
>>20235533
That's kind of what I thought. Thanks anons, you saved me from going down the same rabbit hole.

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>>20235767
You're taking advice from someone who threw a pan in the garbage which he could fixed in under a day. Just cook with whatever you like but to me it being naturally non-stick, cleans up very quick and easy as well as being able to throw it in the oven on broil is why I use it far more than my steel pans.