/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.20228655]

ITT: Food related peeves.
I'll start. Ridiculous serving sizes. Who eats A THIRD of a pickle?

[Anonymous No.20228662]

>Buy jar of peanuts
>WARNING CONTAINS PEANUTS

[Anonymous No.20228680]

>sell cake
>serving size: 0.1g
>because I'm allowed to round down, the total calories per serving are 0
>I legally can claim my cake is 0 calories

[Anonymous No.20228688]

>>20228655
A lot of foods are split into ~30g portions for nutritional information (see >>20228662). I think it's some sort of standard.

[Anonymous No.20228719]

>>20228688
>I think it's some sort of standard.
It's not

[Anonymous No.20228730]

>>20228719
In Yurop they do both "serving size" and values per 100 grams (which makes it a bit easier to calculate actual amounts).

[Anonymous No.20228731]

>>20228680
>This
They put the serving size in smaller font and lump it in the box on the top with all the other info people don't really care about when they're looking for nutrition facts and then use the ridiculously small serving size to make it appear like the food is low calorie/low sugar/low sodium because they know that's what the average person who knows less than nothing about nutrition is looking for

[Anonymous No.20228733]

>>20228680
>Spy x Reddit

[Anonymous No.20228740]

>>20228730
I Didnt ask and I'm not wrong

[Anonymous No.20228750]

>>20228688
because there are 28 grams in an ounce

[Anonymous No.20228781]

>>20228730
serving size is optional in europe, probably adopted by companies with the intent to trick people like they already do with burgers. only the 100g is mandatory, quite useful to easily tell and compare the nutritional quality of food.

[Anonymous No.20228970]

>>20228731
Certain candy's like tic-tacs claim they're zero calorie because they round down on the serving size even though they're 100% sugar.

[Anonymous No.20228990]

>>20228750
Other common serving sizes I've seen are 35g and 42g.

[Anonymous No.20228993]

>>20228970
Yeah, but who eats a whole pack of tic tacs in a single sitting?

[Anonymous No.20229005]

>>20228970
In America, FDA regulations state that nutrition facts must be counted for every 4 calories, meaning if it's under 4, they can legally call it zero calories.

[Anonymous No.20229012]

On today's edition of "Americans will use every unit of measurement except the metric system", I present a quarter of a second serving. Can Americans really distinguish 1/4 second from 1/2 second?

[Anonymous No.20229027]

>>20229012
yeah for one you just count to .25 and the other you count to .5

[Anonymous No.20229053]

>>20228655
Picrel consists of canola oil and food coloring. But it's "0 calorie" because the FDA lets you round down if you pick a small enough serving size. Hope that vax is working out btw, trust the science.

[Anonymous No.20229057]

>>20228781
>Ah yes let me break out my scale and carefully weigh out this tiny unit of weight to ensure I'm certain what the nutritional value is
Yurofags are fucking subhuman

[Anonymous No.20229062]

>>20229012
>literally lists weight in grams next to it
>yuropoor thinks there's a fucking metric unit of TIME

[Anonymous No.20229067]

>>20229053
>because the FDA lets you round down if you pick a small enough serving size
That's not how it works. They let you round down if it's five calories or less.

[Anonymous No.20229072]

>>20229067
So.... you pick a serving size that amounts to five calories or less. Yeah.

[Anonymous No.20229075]

>>20229072
Ah okay I see what you are saying

[Anonymous No.20229080]

>>20229012
oh man, you are SO RIGHT
WHEN WILL AMERICANS START USING METRIC TIME?!

[Anonymous No.20229100]

>>20228655
28g is the standard serving size for all types of pickles as set by the joint USDA/FDA committee during their serving size review each decade. For your pic, it happens that the pickles are larger than the standard serving size of 28g. The important thing is that all the data is there so people with even a moderate degree of intelligence can easily figure out how many calories and nutrients they're consuming.

[Anonymous No.20229113]

>>20228680
While it is true that amounts less than 0.5 can be rounded to zero, serving sizes are set by law and cannot be arbitrarily changed by food companies to get calories or other nutrients under the 0.5 threshold.
>But tic-tacs
Serving size set by law
>But B.O.S.S. sandwich
Serving size set by law and not a single serving like the trolls who post it claim which is why the scurry and hide when the label is posted.
>But some other food
Serving size set by law.
Hope you're noticing a pattern.

[Anonymous No.20229114]

>>20229012
It has to be a mental illness to be this obsessed with America all the time. How else would you describe a "serving" of cooking spray in a way that makes any practical sense at all? Are we supposed to spray it into a measuring cup first or something?

[Anonymous No.20229118]

>>20229012
How are you going to measure out a spray?
>>20229062
The 'second' is the SI unit of time. That crazy shit France came up with after their revolution is not modern metric.

[Anonymous No.20229120]

>>20229113
>The law is essentially set by food companies who "lobby" hard to convince politicians to do their bidding
You forgot that part.

[Anonymous No.20229138]

>>20228680
>>20229113
They should only be using units that can be expressed in terms of their experimental data . If they got x number of significant figures when the measured the calories, they should report an equal amount on the nutritional "data"

[Anonymous No.20229233]

>>20229113
>Serving size set by Lev
true true

[Anonymous No.20229248]

>>20229120
Doesn't matter as long as they're standardized. For pickles, it's always 28g. Maybe 'the science' wanted it to be 44g or 12g but big pickle got Congress to pressure the joint FDA/USDA committee to go with 28g for reasons but as long as everyone abides by the standard, I don't care if Polly Pickle of the Pickleland Emporium had a hand in setting the standardized value.

[Anonymous No.20229259]

The actual standard values.
https://www.fda.gov/media/102587/download

[Anonymous No.20229270]

>>20228655
Imagine being so fat that you actually have to read this shit lmao. Like just go walk some more lol. Go outside lol.

[Anonymous No.20229305]

>>20229270
You know Theres more to health than calories right

[Anonymous No.20229315]

>>20229305
Take it easy tubs, don't have a heart attack

[Anonymous No.20229730]

>>20229315
>>20229305

[Anonymous No.20229812]

>>20229248
Yeah, I mean anyone with a brain can figure it what the actual nutritional content is even with the misleading labels, but they're aware that most people don't have brains, or at least don't care to use them while standing in the isle at the grocery store. People will glance at the calorie count and the sugar content and if the numbers are low enough they'll tell themselves it's healthy without realizing the serving size is a serving for rabbits and they'll likely be eating at least 3 times that amount at a time, if not more.

[Anonymous No.20230647]

I eat the whole jar in one go.
I have to hide my shame from the missus

[Anonymous No.20230750]

>>20228655
usually 6 2/3rds pickles a jar

[Anonymous No.20230757]

>>20230647
Stroke inbound

[Anonymous No.20230768]

>>20228655
It's mostly because 1 pickle has a gram of salt

[Anonymous No.20230777]

>>20228655
It's at least mandated that the sodas & candy have total calorie counts on them, in the front.

You could be cutting pickles up for sando purposes. And pickle spears are a thing.

[Anonymous No.20230821]

>>20228655
>Ridiculous serving sizes
they do this on purpose to avoid being flagged as unhealthy food and to not have to put warning labels on their products.
that way if you eat a whole bag of Oreos that puts the blame on you instead of the manufacturer

[Anonymous No.20230836]

>>20230821
In no world in any scenario is the manufacturer liable because you eat too many cookies

[Anonymous No.20230837]

>>20230777
>It's at least mandated that the sodas & candy have total calorie counts on them, in the front
It isnt though so

[Anonymous No.20230842]

Literally why do we even measure by serving size? Just tell me the total calorie amount of the entire package so I know how many calories I'm eating if I portion it out

[Anonymous No.20230856]

>>20229120
There us literally nothing legally or morally wrong with experts in their respective field advising the government on matters important to them

[Anonymous No.20230862]

>>20230842
>if I portion it out
That's why

[Anonymous No.20231095]

>>20228655
This is literally just so they can put "0" calories on there when obviously a fucking cucumber has calories. Same game as tictacs, zero calories on the label even though they're just pure sugar but the serving size is so low it's within the margin of error and they can say 0

[Anonymous No.20231108]

>>20228655
28g (one ounce) is the standard serving size for a pickle in the US. In some cases, that might be a third of a pickle, or two pickle slices, or 2/3rd of a spear, or whatever.
The point is, you can easily compare different brands of pickles because they're all using the same size as their base measurement. If they just said "one pickle" it'd be different and harder to compare, because one pickle in the OP's image is 84g and one pickle of Vlasic in my image is 14g because they're sliced pickles.

[Anonymous No.20231126]

>>20228655
I swear to god they taste better that way but really it's just all the added seasoning in the ferment.

[Anonymous No.20231172]

>>20231126
What

[Anonymous No.20231173]

>>20230856
>eleven servings of bread per day
Yes surely nothing bad ever came of that

[Anonymous No.20231180]

>>20230836
depends on the country and the laws
in a lot of countries, manufacturers/sellers of products are 100% liable if their products do harm or are just shit products.
so they pull tricks like this to dance around the issue.

[Anonymous No.20231199]

>>20231180
I was referring more to logic than laws. If I eat 400 oreos Nabisco is liable. I am.

[Anonymous No.20231214]

>>20229012
Unironically mentally ill or something

[Anonymous No.20231395]

>>20229270
walking around is healthy and makes you feel better but it has little impact on weight

[Anonymous No.20231413]

>>20229057
>the mere idea of easy mental arithmetic makes the amerimutt break down in confusion and rage

[Anonymous No.20231418]

>be cereal company
>use a cup as your standard serving
no-one on fucking earth who eats cereal is going to have just a single cup.

[Anonymous No.20231439]

>>20231418
As has been pointed out multiple times in this thread, companies do not set serving sizes, the government does, and they all have to abide by that set size. One anon even linked to the document where the serving sizes are defined.
Then we have people like you want to be recreationally outraged because it makes you feel morally superior. You ignore the entire thread and post your conspiracy theories for moral smugness or attention. Both are abhorrent and you should examine your life to determine where you went wrong to get to the point where this is the type of behavior you engage in to feel good about yourself.

[Anonymous No.20231523]

>>20231439
>As has been pointed out multiple times in this thread, companies do not set serving sizes, the government does, and they all have to abide by that set size. One anon even linked to the document where the serving sizes are defined
If that were true the serving size for cereals wouldn't differ. Some say 3/4 cup, some say 1 1/4ths cups

[Anonymous No.20231538]

>>20231523
That’s because measuring by cups is retarded. The 3/4 of a cup and the 1 1/4 cups are probably the same weight in grams but different volume.

[Anonymous No.20231545]

>>20231538
>The 3/4 of a cup and the 1 1/4 cups are probably the same weight in grams but different volume.
They aren't. Your statement was just wrong.

[Anonymous No.20231551]

>>20231545
Then you should have just said the measurement in grams instead of some random nonsense

[Anonymous No.20231553]

>>20228655
>buy bag of chips
>serving size is 9 chips

[Anonymous No.20231559]

>food is labeled as "party size"
>it's barely enough for one or two persons

[Anonymous No.20231560]

>>20231551
I dont really care I'm in the USA

[Anonymous No.20231722]

>>20231560
It's good you don't care that you are living there.
Acceptance is the first step to happiness.

[Anonymous No.20231745]

>>20231722

[Anonymous No.20231758]

>>20231439
>As has been pointed out multiple times in this thread, companies do not set serving sizes, the government does
False.
Wholly, unequivocally, irredeemably false.

[Anonymous No.20231764]

>>20231418
...?
I probably have less than that. Are you one of those "people" who eat an entire bar of chocolate or pack of chews in one go? How fat are you?

[Anonymous No.20231789]

>>20229100
>>20229248
>>20231108
>28g is the standard serving size for all types of pickles as set by the joint USDA/FDA committee during their serving size review
CLAUSSEN PICKLES ARE BREAKING THE LAW!!!
https://www.google.com/imgres?tbnid=fsKurkpvMbWqtM&docid=uyVJFnIc6C5pAM

[Anonymous No.20231795]

>>20231789
I see some are 23g, some are 44g, some are 47g...
Does this mean that the USDA/FDA don't actually have any control over what a company considers a serving size or are claussen and other companies actively and brazenly breaking the law? Waco moment when?

[Anonymous No.20231834]

>>20229080
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.20231961]

I agree with days being broken up into units of ten nuhours but those nuhours should be 100 numinutes which are themselves 100 nuseconds IE 1 nuhour is equal to 8640 oldseconds or 144 oldminutes or 2.4 oldhours so a full day would be 1000 numinutes or 100,000 nuseconds. This renders numinutes slightly longer than oldminutes and nuseconds slightly shorter than oldseconds.
Also, 13 months in a year of four weeks each with the extra day (two days on leap years) being considered outside of that IE between December 28th and Smarch 1st is New Year's Day (NY weekend on leap years), which would be considered its/their own day/s outside of the calendar year.

[Anonymous No.20231975]

>>20231961
This is the cooking board

[Anonymous No.20231977]

Are Europeans even allowed to have pickles? Isn't the government concerned about what the acid might do to their mouths?

[Anonymous No.20232090]

>>20229113
You... I like you. You seem to actually know something about food labeling laws and conventions. Personally, I'd love to see the reaction here if they ever find out about composite ingredient statements.

[Anonymous No.20232108]

>>20228655
My boomer dad will cook up all but ONE fish stick or chicken tendy, and leave the box in the freezer with a single fucking piece in there for someone else to deal with.

[Anonymous No.20232110]

>>20229270
Imagine being so lol that you actually have to lmao this fat shit. Just go rofl some walk. Go actually lol, ha ha!

[Anonymous No.20232127]

>>20229012
rent free

[Anonymous No.20232229]

>>20232127
A gallon weighs slightly over 8⅓ pounds, tho and nowhere near ten. It would weigh even less in Zambia.

[Anonymous No.20232237]

>>20231975
So you're not planning a Smarchoween, Smarchmas or Smarchtoberfest dinner? Grim.
Do you not eat wings during Smarch Smadness, either?

[Anonymous No.20232310]

>>20231560
Then don’t complain about random “””measurements””” then like in >>20231538
There is literally no way of knowing how much is in 1 cup of something vs 1 cup of other thing without using real measurements.

[Anonymous No.20232379]

>>20228655
Not getting proper beef sticks, and this shrinkflation bullshit.

[Anonymous No.20232382]

>>20232237
>Smarch Smadness
Jej.

[Anonymous No.20232391]

>>20232382
I understand the frustration.

[Anonymous No.20232394]

>>20232310
I'll do what I wanr

[Anonymous No.20232590]

>>20228655
>Who eats A THIRD of a pickle?
not your mom.

[Anonymous No.20232707]

>>20232590
Reddit cringe

[Anonymous No.20232753]

>>20230856
Shalom to you too.

[Anonymous No.20232764]

>>20228655
It is to reduce the sodium