/tea/ Ginseng Edition

[Anonymous No.20208338]

This thread is for discussing teas, tisanes, and other herbal infusions.

info: types of tea, where to get tea, how to brew tea
https://rentry.org/teageneral

previous thread: >>20192339

[Anonymous No.20208347]

There are people posting in /tea/ right now that don't buy korean red ginseng that's been certified the government ginseng cartel.

[Anonymous No.20208349]

Where does one get worthwhile ginseng? Does it have to be pricy?

[Anonymous No.20208357]

Or if you prefer American ginseng then buying medium or small prongs is the way to go. Best price, most ginsenosides by weight. Its usually cheapest to buy direct from the wisconsin farms.

[Anonymous No.20208363]

I still need to try ginseng tea.
>>20208357
Is ginseng lightweight? I saw on one of the sites that it's $35 for 4 oz (113 g).

[Anonymous No.20208371]

>>20208349
Luckily because of the heavy influence of Chinese traditional medicine practices on the ginseng market the most expensive ginseng is the largest and oldest roots possible. Testing has shown that young ginseng roots and the small side fibres tend to have the highest ginsenoside content and those are the cheapest forms of ginseng you can buy.
If you are in the US you can get Wisconsin ginseng at very reasonable prices.
Im not directly endorsing this shop but this is what i suggest looking for 8oz of medium prongs for $25.
https://wginseng.com/collections/all-ginsengs/products/c55

[Anonymous No.20208376]

There's a video of an old granny making ginseng tea and she steams them in a wok so it's easier to slice. Ginseng is hard and flies everywhere otherwise.

[Anonymous No.20208385]

>>20208371
>ginsenoside
Is it actually valuable or is it a meme?
How's it taste?

[Anonymous No.20208390]

What i would generally suggest avoiding is mystery Chinese red ginseng. Its very hard to tell the quality so if you want asian ginseng with the red processing it's easiest to just get ginseng that's certified by the korean ginseng cartel. The cartel ginseng will feature a label like pic related. Sometimes you will find it being sold by some of the Korean brands in the US but it's usually cheapest to just buy it from korean sellers on ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185655377991
This is a fairly reasonable priced listing
https://www.ebay.com/itm/325063821152?

[Anonymous No.20208395]

>>20208385
It tastes like you made tea with a dried root, has a stong herbal/Chinese medicine flavor.
I have found the effects of ginseng tea made with whole roots quite potent, very stimulating.
>>20208376
I usually chop it up with pruning shears. Once its been brewed once it becomes very soft and it's easy to mince on a cutting board so you can either brew it again or eat the root.

[Anonymous No.20208398]

>>20208395
Does it taste similar to ginger?

[Anonymous No.20208435]

>>20208398
No not really
More Woody herbal slightly bitter. Lots of people add honey to it.

[Anonymous No.20208439]

If you are into TCM red ginseng is considered more "warming" while American ginseng is tought of as slightly "cooler".

[Anonymous No.20208574]

can I make tea from a thyme plant?

[Anonymous No.20208606]

>>20208574
>can I make tea from a thyme plant?
Sure

[Anonymous No.20208616]

>>20208022
i never felt like paying up for them but i'd ought to just go for it

[Anonymous No.20208661]

>>20208616
If you feel like indulging in austim check out
https://www.audioreviews.org/guide-to-iem-silicone-eartips/

[Anonymous No.20208726]

How do we feel about hibiscus tea? I've been developing an addiction to it lately.

[Anonymous No.20208735]

>>20208726
Its good, i really need to dig into how to source good fresh hibiscus

[Anonymous No.20208740]

Some more cheap ginseng prongs
https://marathonginseng.com/shop/3yearginseng/613-3-year-wisconsin-ginseng-coarse-fiber-%e4%b8%89%e5%b9%b4%e8%94%98%e9%a1%bb-0-5lb/

[Anonymous No.20208929]

>>20208726
rich source of precious antioxidants

[Anonymous No.20209059]

>>20208349
I just go outside and go for a walk until I find some to dig out, but I would not recommend anyone do that if they're not familiar with their local flora and fauna. (Always leave some left so it can grow again and you can come back for more.)

Has anyone here ever made tea from sassafras root? I know it's been technically classified as a carcinogen, but I grew up drinking it so I'll take my chances for the summer nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.20209073]

>>20209059
Sassafras root is awesome.
You can find guys on ebay that sell super fresh sasafrash root bark (or whole roots), they basically go dig some up when you order.

[Anonymous No.20209094]

>>20207721
Currently drinking the Giang Pang Autumn 2023 Raw Puerh. Sweet and floral. Also some melon taste. Not punchy at all for a raw.

Also had the Ta Cu Ty awhile back. Tasted like a decent but average raw. Okay but nothing to write home about.

[Anonymous No.20209095]

>>20209094
Giang Pang leaves out of the package.

[Anonymous No.20209099]

>>20209073
love that organ failure tea.

[Anonymous No.20209108]

>>20209099
>According to a 1977 study of the metabolites of safrole in both rats and humans, two carcinogenic metabolites of safrole found in the urine of rats, 1′-hydroxysafrole and 3′-hydroxyisosafrole, were not found in human urine.[38]

[Anonymous No.20209132]

>>20209108
reading comprehension is a lost art in this day and age. don't worry too much anon, leave their illiterate asses to fend for themselves.

[Anonymous No.20209140]

>>20209099
>higher doses in rats and mice
Okay so dont consume 1 gram of pure safrole per kilogram of bodyweight daily and its fine.
They did a lot of bad cancer science in the 60s and there were political reasons to want to ban safrole because its a chemical precursor to some street drug.

[Anonymous No.20209152]

>>20209108
I read that, it's literally why I posted it. Safrole is banned anyway. Don't impute my motive with your weak inability to meme

[Anonymous No.20209202]

what the FUCK is pu-erh

[Anonymous No.20209220]

>>20209202
It's the opposite of being rich.

[Anonymous No.20209227]

>>20209152
>the FDA says so so I'll stop
so... did you stop using cinnamon, nutmeg, basil too?

[Anonymous No.20209240]

>>20209227
Bruh, please, reading comprehension.

[Anonymous No.20209247]

>>20209240
>It occurs naturally in a variety of spices, such as cinnamon, nutmeg, and black pepper, and herbs such as basil.
so you're saying you either
A. Willfully choose to use these (thereby making your 'love that organ failure tea' original post superfluous, because you're imbibing in the organ failure as well)
or
B. Cut out many major day-to-day spices and herbs because a weak association in the 70s got reported and the FDA published words.

i expect you to retract everything and pretend to be retarded now :)

[Anonymous No.20209253]

>>20209247
C) I posted it as a meme, next to the post: AND I QUOTE.

> love that organ failure tea.

lighten up janet.

[Anonymous No.20209258]

>>20209253
there you go (:

[Anonymous No.20209352]

>>20209094
whered you get your teaware? its amazing.

[Anonymous No.20209378]

>>20209258
>i...le won this internet argument
ok, now stop the drama

[Anonymous No.20209383]

>>20209378
it was stopped until you decided to be butthurt an hour later about it :)))

[Anonymous No.20209402]

>>20209378
>>20209258
>>20209383
get a room and then record yourselves having erotic gay sex and post it here. or erm just like maybe start posting tea i guess.

[Anonymous No.20209454]

Any of you fags that are into cha qi should definitely buy some ginseng root and make some srrong ass decoction. Start with maybe 3 grams the first time. I think something like 5-7 grams is a standard dose in TCM terms.
Its pretty potent stuff, i need to experiment more with drinking ginseng to potentiate cha qi but it seems interesting. Dont forget to eat the roots after you brew them. Again if you run hot (in the tcm sense) get American ginseng if you run cold try red asian ginseng.

[Anonymous No.20209472]

upton tea good or grown in leaded soil?

[Anonymous No.20209528]

tired of election tourists who can't differentiate between posters

[Anonymous No.20209537]

>>20209094
Those were my thoughts pretty much exactly. If I were to choose between them I would gladly spend the extra 2$ and go for the Giang Pang myself. I really liked the melon taste, came out really well when brewed on the light side and worked very well with the sweetness.

[Anonymous No.20209539]

>>20209472
Lead-enriched tea is great though

[Anonymous No.20209575]

>>20209472
>i must avoid le lead
stay irradiated retard

[Anonymous No.20209583]

>>20209220
Being Dick?

[Anonymous No.20209607]

>>20209352
Thank you. It took me awhile to compile it all together.

>teacup
Yinchen Studio

>teacup coaster
Craftedleaf

>gaiwan
Umi Tea Sets

>potstand
Dragon Tea House

>strainer
Teavivre

[Anonymous No.20209717]

>>20208347
Kneel.

[Anonymous No.20209886]

Here's the haul lads. Tried the Darjeeling cold brew as per recommendation of the anon in previous thread and it was really tasty. Might have to do my cold brews with cheaper stuff though from now on since I've been drinking a pitcher a day and that could get pretty expensive for me.

[Anonymous No.20209901]

For ginseng, just go to a chinese supermarket.

[Anonymous No.20209917]

>>20209454
Can I get a qrd of hot vs cold in Chinese medicine. More interested than worried about the ginseng to buy.

[Anonymous No.20209929]

>>20209886
does that gyokuro bag say 70c?

[Anonymous No.20209938]

>>20209929
Yeah, it says 70c, 1-3mins. Is that too hot??

[Anonymous No.20209953]

>>20209938
i've never had it myself but that's hotter than i've ever seen recommended, maybe someone more experienced could comment

[Anonymous No.20209958]

No idea what he did to make it this way but it really is 'dabang'. It's the closest I've ever found to drinking hot chocolate via tea - but not like, cheap powdered hot chocolate, like melting down quality dark chocolate in cream. It's kind of astounding how leaf and water can even produce those flavors.

[Anonymous No.20209983]

>>20209917
So the simple version is someone who feels cold often, chills, cold hands is cold, someone who feels too hot all the time, turns down the heat, wears tshirts in cold weather would be considered hot. Its basically describing the actual perception somone has of the temperature of their body, organs etc.
If somone is excessively hot or cold it's considered an imbalance and the person would prescribed herbs or whatever else to correct that. Herbs and other things are considered to have inate warming or cooling properties and so someone who is excessively cold would be told to take warming herbs and vice versa.
Im not really deep into the subject but ive always found that interesting because i notice that i generally run cold and western medicine doesn't really have concepts like that outside of things like hypothermia, fevers etc.
There are many other concepts in tcm like dampness and drying that i don't find particularly interesting.

[Anonymous No.20209987]

>>20209958
Sounds great

[Anonymous No.20210097]

>>20209983
Very interesting, given what you said and what a cursory search said, I run hot. But again I'm more interested in it as a novelty rather than something to prescribe to.

[Anonymous No.20210219]

It is so over
Wonder what else is worth growing for tea.

[Anonymous No.20210340]

>>20208606
lemme ask again
how do I make tea from a thyme plant?

[Anonymous No.20210420]

>>20210340
put leaf in boil water
wait five minute
strain

[Anonymous No.20210422]

>>20209958
>black tea
>it's blue
What site is that btw?

[Anonymous No.20210673]

getting a real burnt caramel chocolate milk vibe from this 7562 today

[Anonymous No.20210683]

>>20210673
Does only pu-erh have those flavors?

[Anonymous No.20210686]

>>20210683
I find black tea and roasted oolong can be caramelly-chocolaty too. but the creamy milky element common in ripe pu-erh is more rare in other teas I think

[Anonymous No.20210751]

>>20210683
Don't listen to carpet lickers.
All the tempting flavors are under the blanket of garbage.
You have to do bunch of mental gymnastics to get over it and then to start "enjoying" ripes.

[Anonymous No.20210825]

>>20210751
What about the other kind raw or whatever?

[Anonymous No.20210874]

>>20210683
>>20210686
The milkiest I've ever had were a couple of hojichas, one was stem only, the other a kyobancha. Associated them both with milk chocolate a little.

[Anonymous No.20210882]

>>20210825
Raw is very different to ripe.
I'm guessing you are new, I'm gonna drink few more raw samples and then post my impressions from pov of puer newbie.

[Anonymous No.20210883]

>>20210825
Raw (sheng) is something else entirely. Even aged, it still way more vegetal and punchy.

[Anonymous No.20210969]

>>20210420
one leaf?

[Anonymous No.20211013]

>>20210825
Raw tastes more like a really intense green tea. Often kind of tart and fruity with a bit of bitterness.

[Anonymous No.20211039]

Someone in the last thread told me to post the tea tuners on the guitar once it was mounted, so here.
still got more work, getting an ivory nut carved (legal) and those cover screws didn't line up so need to fix that. But yeah here's the tea-caster
Only thread on the site outside of /int/ that might know what this even says

[Anonymous No.20211088]

>>20211039
Super fucking rad. Looks great!

[Anonymous No.20211248]

>>20211039
Now write us a tea anthem

[Anonymous No.20211326]

>>20211039
>ivory nut carved (legal)
That's not in proper Chinese spirit, anonkun! You need ivory nut carved (illegally obtained by Chinese poachers). Cool tea guitar though!

[Anonymous No.20211456]

>>20211326
It's close enough, it's illegal in several states. I'm just using extinct mammoth ivory which makes it dragon ivory. Very chinese. Will enhance my tea drinking experience

[Anonymous No.20211463]

>>20211039
Put it in the rentry.

[Anonymous No.20211548]

any reccs from Dragon Tea House? interested in pu-erh, hei cha, black tea and maybe a moonlight white

[Anonymous No.20211602]

When will there be a TeaGPT that will tell me the flavor of teas so that I don't have to drink them myself?

[Anonymous No.20211605]

>>20211548
These are not teas ive tried personally but they are from factories i like or know make good products
Liu an
https://dragonteahouse.biz/sun-yi-shun-liu-an-hei-cha-basket-black-tea-500g/
Liu bao
https://dragonteahouse.biz/three-cranes-20208-liu-bao-dark-tea-guangxi-hei-cha/
https://dragonteahouse.biz/three-cranes-2706-liu-bao-dark-tea-guangxi-hei-cha/
For puer DTH seems to have high prices, health tea house might be a better choice

[Anonymous No.20211721]

Why is real tea so fucking expensive in South America? I have to pay like 5x more than my super premium best-in-the-world coffee for SHITTY SENCHA, it's insane. Don't even get me started on matcha.

[Anonymous No.20211747]

>>20211721
Not a lot of people importing speciality Japanese teas to south America, small market means high prices.
Don't they grow black tea in Colomba these days? See if that's any good. Or just drink yerba mate.
If you live somewhere with an asian or middle easten population their specialty grocery stores might have cheap tea.
Depending on where you live and your import duties is probably cheaper to import sencha and matcha from japan yourself.

[Anonymous No.20211763]

>>20211747
There are many local black tea options but unfortunately I'm a weeb and only interested in Japanese tea. Being in South America is suffering. At least the coffee is godtier.

[Anonymous No.20211814]

>>20211763
i think the cheapest option might just be to become vehemently racist like most south americans on here, especially towards east asians.

[Anonymous No.20211837]

>>20211763
>I'm a weeb and only interested in Japanese tea
Then it's only suffering for you.
Even as a weeb you should realize Japanese tea is inferior to Chinese tea and I say that despite my hatred of the bug men.
Green tea is shit in general but I digress, I tried premium Japanese black tea and even 4x cheaper Chinese one mogged it.

[Anonymous No.20211870]

>>20211837
>Green tea is shit in general
That's an opinion, I think black tea is shit in general.

[Anonymous No.20211895]

>>20211721
>>20211763
There's a lot of Japanese people in Brazil isn't there? See where they're getting it.

[Anonymous No.20211917]

Teahome and w2t in the same day ooh boy i'm sniffin
Not much experience with either of these vendors so it's gonna be fun.

[Anonymous No.20211920]

>>20211895
None of my Japanese friends drink Japanese tea or have any Japanese habits at all. As a weeb I am more Japanese than they are.

[Anonymous No.20211945]

>>20211917
Damn now I want some gingerbreadman.

[Anonymous No.20211958]

>>20211456
>I'm just using extinct mammoth ivory which makes it dragon ivory.
i have this. should i grind it up and put into my tea? lol.

[Anonymous No.20211966]

>>20211917
there's the teahome stuff as it's pretty nondescript. Not expecting miracles from them but I think it's all gonna be very drinkable, it ended up 8c/gram shipped I think.

>>20211945
Is it good? I bought the w2t samples without much consideration after some drinks. I'll brew some up tomorrow morning.

[Anonymous No.20211968]

>>20211958
Lindy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_bone
>No one can know how many oracle bones, prior to 1899, were ground up by traditional Chinese pharmacies and disappeared into people's stomachs

[Anonymous No.20211974]

>>20210683
not really, ive tried a few taetea and that chocolate milk flavor is there. I have a few other pu-erhs and they dont have this taste.

[Anonymous No.20211981]

>>20211968
ok im not sure if its this one, but i have an extinct one too lol. il add it to the pu-erh im steeping right now. 7 mins steep. 5 grams. Taetea. about 150 ml.

[Anonymous No.20211999]

>>20211917
how did your w2t order already come? didnt they say shipping would resume on the 22nd?

[Anonymous No.20212025]

>>20211966
Its the cheapest of the halloween 4pack I bought, but its quite tasty.

[Anonymous No.20212057]

>>20211721
My brother you should consider importing. If you're confident you're describing a supply shortage, there is cash to be made.

[Anonymous No.20212062]

>>20211999
Checked. I ordered it late January but I guess I must've got in just before the cut off.

>>20212025
Noice. Pretty affordable cake really. And not horrendously ugly wrapper.

[Anonymous No.20212067]

>>20211917
Yeah man you know I'm waiting to hear your thoughts on Gas.

[Anonymous No.20212071]

>>20212057
If he lives in Brazil they have a nearly 80% tax on everything they import

[Anonymous No.20212072]

im going to buy some tea plants soon. i wanted to do it last year and i didn't get around to it but this time i will.

[Anonymous No.20212081]

>>20212072
What's your growing situation? Where do you intend to pick up plants?

[Anonymous No.20212097]

>>20212081
https://camforest.com/collections/tea-camellias

i sent them an email about what they'd recommend. i think i'll probably get a few seedlings and then just a variety of seeds. i'm in zone 8 so basically everything grows here.

[Anonymous No.20212130]

>>20212067
Course. I'm definitely sensitive to bitter so it's pretty exciting really.
I haven't tried any puer at 2-3 years of age either, I've heard that age can be a bit inbetweenish.

[Anonymous No.20212133]

>>20212097
Based, those guys are awesome
Im growing the sochi selection in just barely zone 6b and it's somehow hanging on.

[Anonymous No.20212232]

>buy fresh ginger for tea
>it's moldy
Every time. Where do you US anons get ginger?

[Anonymous No.20212275]

>>20212232
Sometimes its better quality then others, depends on rhe season. I usually just get it at the market but the Asian grocery stores that sell produce usually have huge horns of it for decent prices.

[Anonymous No.20212290]

>>20212232
I wish i could get freeze dried ginger cheap
I would suggest buying a bunch when its on sale and not rotten then peeling and throwing it all in the food processor, then freezing cubes of it in an IceCube tray.
Or just peeling it and slicing it and freezing the slices
Then you can just pull some out of the freezer and toss it into a pot of water to simmer up some ginger tea

[Anonymous No.20212306]

>>20212275
>Asian grocery stores
I think one might be a city over but none are too close. Maybe I'll suck it up and go one day.
>>20212290
Too bad the dried ginger kind of sucks.
>Or just peeling it and slicing it and freezing the slices
I do this but the last 3 purchases or more have all been moldy. It's depressing.

[Anonymous No.20212312]

>>20212133
from seeds or seedlings? got any pics?

[Anonymous No.20212340]

>>20212312
From seedlings
No pics sorry
It died back to the ground one winter after a bad frost but it's doing surprisingly well considering i shouldn't be able to grow tea here. Only one bush unfortunately, i need to grab some more.
I think i bought a 3 quart size. Definitely saves some time getting the larger ones but it probably matters less if you are in an appropriate zone for tea.
Its this guy, very bushy
https://camforest.com/collections/tea-camellias/products/cs-sochi

[Anonymous No.20212364]

I wonder if you could get farmer leaf to send you some seeds if you asked nicely. It would be cool to get seeds from some old ass tea treas on jingmai.

[Anonymous No.20212389]

>>20212364
>I wonder if you could get farmer leaf to send you some seeds
I HATE THE USDA
I HATE THE USDA
I HATE THE USDA

[Anonymous No.20212393]

>>20212389
I know they arent supposed to be imported but its pretty unlikely a handful in an order of tea are gonna get noticed

[Anonymous No.20212414]

>>20212364
it's wild to think about people who get paid to go to places and find these things. i was looking through a seed catalog and it'll be like "we found this strain of tomato being sold at a farmer's market in rural argentina".

you really have to hunt around online to find cool shit.

[Anonymous No.20212419]

>>20211981
You'll be insanely horny

[Anonymous No.20212442]

>>20212057
I'm in Brazil and like anon said the taxes for importing are very high.

[Anonymous No.20212444]

>>20212442
there are tricks. funnel through other countries, etc.
you could be out there stacking paper, my man.

[Anonymous No.20212475]

>>20212444
The tricks to avoiding customs in Brazil involve bribing customs agents or being part of organized crime

[Anonymous No.20213313]

>>20212062
lucky. guess im waiting until march for my order still then....

[Anonymous No.20213361]

>>20212364
I wouldn't bother unless you have land with elevation in a cool wet climate with warm summers.

[Anonymous No.20213619]

[Anonymous No.20213621]

>>20213361
Not that anon but if I do in fact happen to live in such a location, is there a guide I should know about with regards to growing tea if I ever get ahold of some?

[Anonymous No.20214018]

>>20213621
https://camforest.com/pages/tips-for-growing-camellias

[Anonymous No.20214642]

I recently bought some Gyokuro, I have had it a number of time and like it, and I am pretty familiar with other Japanese teas - sencha, hojicha, shincha, kukicha etc..
It seems gyokuro is meant to be brewed very differently like described here
https://ippodotea.com/blogs/recipes-to-brew-japanese-tea/standard-gyokuro-brew
But frankly I don't really find brewing this way satisfying or pleasurable. Yeah, the tea taste good, but I don't know, something about the process is annoying to me and the small amount of tea I have isn't worth it.
For reference I mainly drink chinese tea and drink it gongfu style every single day so its not like ceremony and whatnot bothers me, in fact I enjoy it, but just not for Gyokuro.
I even bought a houhin and everything.
>tldr
So I gues my question is - is it possible/a waste to just brew Gyokuro more like a sencha? Meaning with more water, maybe a higher temp?
How do people here brew their Gyokuro? Or should I just accept I need to brew it the way described in the website I linked.

[Anonymous No.20214684]

>>20214642
From the same site
https://ippodotea.com/blogs/recipes-to-brew-japanese-tea/piping-hot-gyokuro

[Anonymous No.20214696]

>>20214684
Totally missed that. I legit browsed like 10 websites and they all had that same first method I posted.... Thanks anon. Sorry I'm dumb.

[Anonymous No.20214712]

>>20214696
No worries i know absolutely nothing about brewing Japanese greens.
I don't see why you couldn't just brew it like sencha too if you find that less of a hassle.
But basically there are no rules, just guidelines and suggestions, so feel free to experiment and drink it however you enjoy it

[Anonymous No.20214718]

>>20211917
I wonder how Gas would compare to the FL Autumn Lao Man E I'm drinking right now, in the "bitter and not too expensive" category

[Anonymous No.20214723]

>>20214642
I bought a gyokuro mislabeled as sencha some time ago and it came out nicely brewed as sencha honestly. Just sweeter and sort of fruitier.

[Anonymous No.20214733]

Anyone ever buy some billy Corgan tea?

[Anonymous No.20214741]

>>20214733
>exclusively flavored teas
Nah im good

[Anonymous No.20214812]

>>20214712
Thanks. I want to give Japanes teas another chance. I drank a lot when I lived in Japan, but since I'm back home I returned to my habit of only chinese for years now.
I have noticed with Japanes green teas they are very fussy/sensitive and to me, and have less leeway in the brewing because they can get get extremely bitter very fast when prepared wrong.
>>20214723
Sounds reassuring!

[Anonymous No.20215289]

that's some tasty mineral leather. nice texture too

[Anonymous No.20215345]

>>20214741
He's got regular ones too

[Anonymous No.20215448]

Am I missing out if I brew young Shengs at 80°C?

[Anonymous No.20215449]

>>20215448
thats for you to find out, steep at other temps and see what you like

[Anonymous No.20215475]

>>20215449
I just don't know how much of that bitterness is intended. Is sheng supposed to taste more bitter than, say, a Chinese green?

[Anonymous No.20215481]

>>20215475
>Is sheng supposed to taste more bitter than, say, a Chinese green?
Almost always, yes. But it shouldn't taste like straight up bitter medicine. I'd say tonic water level bitterness is a good target. Which sheng have you got?
Remember you can always brew with 100 degrees and lower brew times / leaf amount. I prefer that to lowering temperature myself.

[Anonymous No.20215490]

>>20215481
Also, I guess there isn't really a "supposed to" because for some time most of the Sheng conneiseur culture was all about ageing out the bitterness. But nowadays many people like em young. Though some raws are generally considered better with some age on them, if you have some more old school rough stuff meant to be aged then it might be kind of hardcore when young.

[Anonymous No.20215503]

>>20215481
>Which sheng have you got?
Currently I'm drinking a 2022 Xiaguan TeTuo from Taobao and considering what temperature to brew with.
Another one I have is the 2023 snoozefest.

[Anonymous No.20215509]

>>20215503
Yeah the Xiaguan tuos are of the rough old school variety. I think they adjusted them over the years but they can still be tricky to brew when young.
Snoozefest should be much less tricky. Mine is not too bitter and totally drinkable now.

[Anonymous No.20215842]

I just got my lucky yancha box from OWT. Must have gotten lucky since I only got three duplicates. I'll take pictures when I get home, but the one I'm trying right now is excellent.

[Anonymous No.20215894]

>>20215503
Xiaguan tuos can have some bitterness, they should also have a decent amount of sweetness, usually the leaves are chopped up so they will infuse faster/stronger then a fancy light compression boutique teas.

[Anonymous No.20215897]

>>20215842
Nice, i wish i saw that in time to grab one, seems fun

[Anonymous No.20216005]

>>20210422
>>20210969
It's 'black tea' but processed and rolled like an oolong.

Also

https://beautifultaiwantea.com/products/dabang-black-tea

[Anonymous No.20216565]

>>20215475
generally yes, but aged sheng can be very smooth. some things like bulang it's intentional, some thing it's not been aged enough..

[Anonymous No.20216968]

Sorry for the retarded question but is sheng and shengtai the same thing?

[Anonymous No.20217137]

bancha

[Anonymous No.20217139]

>>20217137

[Anonymous No.20217475]

>>20216968
no, Sheng (raw pu-erh) is a type of tea that's processed in a certain way
shengtai is a type of tea plantation that's organic and less intensively managed than normal plantations, with the hope of making better tasting tea
so you can have a Sheng from shengtai plantations or from elswhere. you can also process shengtai material into something other than Sheng, say a black or white tea

[Anonymous No.20217635]

>>20217475
So all raws are sheng?

[Anonymous No.20217645]

>>20217635
yes, sheng literally translates to raw / alive, use the babelcarp website for chinese tea translatation https://babelcarp.org/babelcarp/

[Anonymous No.20217647]

>>20217635
Yep

[Anonymous No.20217679]

I just had some Earl Grey, we are so fucking back

[Anonymous No.20217718]

[Anonymous No.20217739]

Anyone tried Indonesian tea? What types of tea do they make?

[Anonymous No.20217750]

>>20208347
is it tea?

[Anonymous No.20217820]

>>20217718
While new level of tea pet

[Anonymous No.20218083]

>>20217718
That's so nice, I don't know how warm the water can be, maybe green tea rinse wouldn't be too hot if you wait a bit?

[Anonymous No.20218086]

>>20217718
What kind of dog is this

[Anonymous No.20218104]

>>20217718
GIWTWM

[Anonymous No.20218117]

>>20218086
Swamp puppy

[Anonymous No.20218409]

When will be new FL releases? April?

[Anonymous No.20218527]

>>20218409
usually around early summer

[Anonymous No.20218538]

>>20218527
Damn that's a quite a while from now.
Any idea if there will be any discounts till then?

[Anonymous No.20218934]

been sucking down the 23 spring naka small trees and 23 fall lao man e from farmer leaf. Both are good. The lao man e is more punchy, got some kick to it. Tha naka has its own bitterness that hits a bit differently, there is also some smoke in there, not a ton but its noticeable.
Both are solid teas for the $.
The naka has average endurance, the lao man e has average + endurance, partially due to shorter brew times but also maybe a bit less rolling during processing.

[Anonymous No.20218937]

>>20218538
>Any idea if there will be any discounts till then?
Probably not till he stocks the store. He doesn't do a ton of sales, i think he did 3 last year

[Anonymous No.20218999]

>>20218934
yeah the 23 Fall Lao Man E is pretty fun to drink, got some of that bitterness along with leather / gasoline vibes and strong minerality, it's almost salty. pretty much none of the usual fruity and floral facets I usually get from raws. low astringency and an active mouthfeel. very characteristic stuff.
the Naka I don't have, but I've enjoyed the Chen Sheng Hao Naka a lot lately. the bitterness in that one is short and sharp and it has a great aroma, very sweet. more of a balanced experience. didn't get any smoke from the CSH tea

[Anonymous No.20219045]

>>20218999
Yeah i do get some of the gasoline leather vibe as well. Fun stuff
I wouldn't expect the csh to have smoke. It sounds like the farmer leaf one does because he bought some of the farmers spring crop in the fall. I guess the smoke is from the farners storing the maocha in the loft of their house and it picks up some smoke from the fireplace. Ive always wondered ehat kind of setup the big factories like xiaguan have to smoke their teas. They must have some kind of industrial smoking system.

[Anonymous No.20219120]

>>20218934
i have the naka small trees but havent tried it yet. i have been drinking the naka ripe and its been amazing, ive had a liter or so of it just this morning. this is my first ever experience with pu erh and ripe pu erh btw. the only other pu erh ive had was the yellow flakes which i had two days ago.

[Anonymous No.20219126]

>>20219120
Damn good place to start

[Anonymous No.20219141]

>>20208338
This isnt ginseng related, but this tea is really good with brown sugar and evaporated milk. Anyone else ever get to try this?

[Anonymous No.20219158]

>>20219120
yeah sounds like great picks for first pu-erh.

[Anonymous No.20219162]

>>20219141
They also sell a special tea for 60 a jar or something like that.

[Anonymous No.20219323]

>>20219141
Samsung phones really put watermarks on their photos now?

[Anonymous No.20219330]

>>20219141
I think just about anything will taste good with sugar and evaporated milk, but vanilla flavoring is probably a nice addition.
Where did you buy it?

[Anonymous No.20219338]

>>20219141
You can find a bunch of pictures of the factory and tea plantation online

[Anonymous No.20219346]

>>20219323
they love to grift any way they can, what'd you expect friend?

[Anonymous No.20219351]

>>20219338

[Anonymous No.20219595]

Drink ginseng

[Anonymous No.20219628]

>>20219330
a friend went there to visit family and asked me what i wanted from yhere and saud a bunch of vanilla tea

[Anonymous No.20219860]

>>20219595
Anyone else remember when ginseng was cheap?
Wish I could grow it without destroying the land for 50 years.

[Anonymous No.20219949]

>>20219860
The American stuff isn't awful if you buy it from the farms. You can get 8oz of prongs for like $30.

[Anonymous No.20219966]

>>20212232
The supermarket. Wtf do u live lol.

[Anonymous No.20219971]

>>20219860
>>20219949
I linked some other listings earlier in the thread
https://bobginseng.com/product/small-prongs-8-oz/

[Anonymous No.20220583]

I grew up Mormon and have literally never had real tea in my life. The only tea products I've ever consumed were cans of Arizona. Where should I start?

[Anonymous No.20220742]

>>20220583
Verdant tea still does a $5 sample pack. That way you will get to try some different nice teas and figure out if you want to explore further.
https://verdanttea.com/five-teas-for-5
Get that, get a tea brew basket like pic related on Amazon or ebay or something. Brew in a mug
Brewing times and temperatures and brewing instructions are in the rentry in the OP.
Come back and tell us what you liked and we can suggest things to try next or where to buy more.

[Anonymous No.20221119]

>>20220742
Didn't know about that sample pack. Seems like great value for Americans

[Anonymous No.20221917]

>>20219966
Florida

[Anonymous No.20221949]

>>20220742
I'll check that out, thanks.

[Anonymous No.20221973]

Don't mind me sharing impressions on my first real Gong Fu experiences as a western style drinker.

Farmer Leaf - 2023 Fa Zhan He 8g. 95°C ~160ml mug. Started 10s +5s each steep as suggested in the rentry.
Dry leaves smells like plum, very nice and unlike anything I've seen before. Unfortunately not much of that transfers to the brew.
I would describe the taste as very "clean", it does not have the body of a black or green tea. Yet it's still strong with mid astringency and some pleasant bitterness here and there. I like it. Closest to that taste is a low oxidization Darjeeling first flush flight tea I have.
First steeps had a soapy note, which went away later.
I'd say it peaked around steep 4 or 5 and then lost body and faded.
It was interesting to see that Gong Fu seems to be more efficient than single steep western, measured by the total amount of brew I got out of the 8g. It was about 1.2l in 8 steeps.
Excited to compare it to the 2023 Bang Wai Small Trees and the samples that I got.

[Anonymous No.20222145]

>>20221973
Nice, enjoy some gongfu fun

[Anonymous No.20222211]

>>20221973
Puerh has an interesting trait in that what you smell in the gaiwan isn't necessarily what you taste in the cup. Dry leaves can be hard to discern overall. Did you notice a citrus note?
Bangwai Small Trees will be a good follow up. Expect a meatier mouth feel and more obvious huigan.
Thanks for the writeup. Btw, what did you use two neatly stack and frame two photos like that?

[Anonymous No.20222241]

>>20222211
>Did you notice a citrus note?
Not him but I've tried both fa zhan he and dong guo, which both are supposed to have citrus notes and tasted nothing.
Do people know what citruses are like or whats happening here?
All the reviews saying it's sweet and citrusy... like is this psychop or what?

[Anonymous No.20222276]

>>20222211
>Did you notice a citrus note?
no, I'll look for that next time

>Bangwai Small Trees will be a good follow up. Expect a meatier mouth feel and more obvious huigan.
So far the dry leaf smell goes in the same direction of Fa Zhan He but little less plum and more earthy notes.

>Btw, what did you use two neatly stack and frame two photos like that?
GridArt Photo Editor on Play Store. It's zoomer cancer but does the job quickly.

[Anonymous No.20222287]

Im going to a big asian shopping market this weekend that i know has a few chinese medicine shops. What should i buy other then ginseng and reindeer antler velvet?

[Anonymous No.20222292]

>>20222241
I drank a cake of the fa zhan he last spring, definite citrus notes, it's not the same kind of intensity as sniffing an orange peel or something but its there.

[Anonymous No.20222294]

>>20222287
Red deer penis
Dried Cicada skin

[Anonymous No.20222304]

>>20222287
>reindeer antler velvet
What's it for?

[Anonymous No.20222307]

>>20222294
>red deer penis
Oh that's a good point i wonder if they have deer musk grains.

[Anonymous No.20222352]

>>20222241
People often disagree on taste notes so I wouldn't worry about it. Putting words to tastes aint easy.
Personally I noticed it in the dong guo but not really the fa zhan he.

[Anonymous No.20222380]

>>20222287
Ku ding.

[Anonymous No.20222388]

>>20222287
Please do a comparative tasting of the various benises
Try out chrysanthemum too thats one thing I've been meaning to get to.

[Anonymous No.20222489]

>>20222388
>Telling anon to eat a cock

[Anonymous No.20222497]

What goes well with milk?

[Anonymous No.20222525]

>>20219141
i've had this vanilla + black tea before and still have some, never thought about having it with milk, thanks for the tip

[Anonymous No.20222549]

Bought some cheap pu erhs, so far i have tried the 2014 basmati pu erh xiao tuocha and its actually really nice, so far i have made two steeps.
The large bag was only about 12 american dollars, tastes earthy and a bit fishy, it is lower quality but i don't mind, I'm very happy with it, and i actually really like the flavour.
The oldest one i bought is from 2003, so i am curious as to what it will taste like, I am still relatively new to pu erhs.

[Anonymous No.20222589]

>>20222549
Jednou jsem dostal něco podobnýho jako ten velký balík a chutnalo to naprosto odporně, ale je pravda, že já nesnáším každý ripe...

[Anonymous No.20222619]

>>20222549
Those types of things can be a but sus but glad you're enjoying it.
If you want to reduce any fishyness you can rinse it with hot water quickly, basically do a 5 second or so steep and throw it away.
I just cracked open a fresh xiaguan tuo, nice and smokey

[Anonymous No.20222645]

>>20222549
Glad you are having fun with it. Sometimes doing a quick rinse and discarding that water will help with the fishy taste

[Anonymous No.20222658]

>>20222589
ja zas mozno mam aj divne chute tak mi to chuti, aj ak je to trochu "rybacie", ja sa moc az tak nevyznam v puerh-och, myslim si ze zatial kazdy puerh co som mala bol ripe, okrem par tuocha. Zeleny 13rocni mi celkom chutil.

What are some good pu erhs for beginners? Is it a good idea to buy a whole cake?

[Anonymous No.20222662]

>>20222619
thanks, i'll try that next time

[Anonymous No.20222672]

>>20222658
>Is it a good idea to buy a whole cake?
if you already know you like pu-erh I think it's a good idea. cakes tend to be better quality than these mini tuocha

[Anonymous No.20222706]

>>20222658
Ripe 7562 and 7572 are popular.
Young raw FL is usually decent, at least some like the fa zhan he.
> Is it a good idea to buy a whole cake?
I did as a complete beginner bought 4 cakes cause the taobao deal was very tempting.
It was stupid but i don't regret it.

[Anonymous No.20222751]

anyone know any good german tea forums/boards/discord channels/telegram channels etc

[Anonymous No.20222767]

>>20222658
Yeah if you know you like ripe generally you can start buying cakes from reputable places, it's mostly all pretty drinkable.
If you're interested in raw it's probably best to get some samples first.

For ripe this cake is generally well-liked, pretty cheap and fullchea have low shipping cost:
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/haiwan-2019-yr-pu-er-cha-9978-batch-191-shu-puer-te-357g

[Anonymous No.20222783]

Would a foam cooler like this be ok for storing my tea? I've just been keeping my fl order in the plastic bag it came in but I'm worried that it may absorb the chemicals in the plastic (despite the fact each tea is in its own paper bag lined with plastic). I'll probably fill it with those silica gel packs if I get it.

[Anonymous No.20222785]

I drank this and went insane
7/10 pretty gud

[Anonymous No.20222787]

>>20222785
the picture on it is beautiful. what tea is it?

[Anonymous No.20222840]

>>20222787
golden sail brand

[Anonymous No.20222843]

Do these "absorb oxygen" packets that come with some teas remove smells and flavor from tea?

[Anonymous No.20222893]

>>20222783
Those should work, make sure to air it out when you get it and confirm it doesn't have a smell before you store your tea in it.
>afraid of absorbing plastic
Schizo shit
>silica gel packs
Don't use silica gel, you want to use humidity packs like the boveda ones. I've been using the 58% humidity ones lately.
Slilica gel will dry out the tea. Sometimes modern puers are packed with small silica gel packs but that's to prevent water damage in extremely humid storage conditions.

[Anonymous No.20222910]

>>20222843
Not that ive noticed. I usually get them in vacuum sealed oolongs.

[Anonymous No.20222970]

ive been drinking the naka small trees all morning and its making me feel like i have no blood

[Anonymous No.20222978]

>>20222893
thank you for the inisight. how many do i put in when i get it? this is what youre reffering to right?
https://www.amazon.com/Boveda-Humidity-Control-10-Count-Resealable/dp/B01MA265ZY?th=1

[Anonymous No.20223004]

>>20222893
>Sometimes modern puers are packed with small silica gel packs but that's to prevent water damage in extremely humid storage conditions.
I don't drink puer but maybe it's meant to only stay in during shipping.
>>20222970
It's turning you into a vampire? Maybe eat some rare steak.

[Anonymous No.20223023]

>>20222970
t.

[Anonymous No.20223032]

>>20223023
AHAHJKSLAFSA:

[Anonymous No.20223036]

>>20222970
that means the cha qi flows through you. this is good
for real though, Naka material tends to be above average in kick, right?

[Anonymous No.20223043]

>>20223036
the naka ripe i would say yes, the naka small trees has just made it feel like i have no blood, not really something i would describe as having kick. but both have had a strong effect on me.

[Anonymous No.20223047]

>>20223043
Okay, grandsire, crawl into your basement casket until the night actually starts.

[Anonymous No.20223062]

>>20222978
Yeah those things, i would just get one of the medium size packs
https://www.amazon.com/Boveda-58-Percentage-Individually-Wrapped-Humidity/dp/B01M7O0S3Y/

[Anonymous No.20223063]

what if we as a society made one very very giant oxygen absorber

[Anonymous No.20223068]

>>20223062
perfect, thank you anon

[Anonymous No.20223226]

> in nyc for the weekend
> decide to look around chinatown for tea bc theres no shops where I live
> mostly meh and some scammy places
> too sperg to talk to shopowners so I don't buy anything
> go into random shop
> nice old chinese man asks me what I like
> I tell him
> he shows me a few things, mostly loose puer, some balls, and some blacks
> buy what he recommends and a few other things. ~25 bucks for a nice array
> it's all really good and has been stored well. everything has been enjoyable
> dont remember the shop and i paid in cash. had no idea where i was.
> will probably never see that kind man again

Thank you chinaman

[Anonymous No.20223321]

I'm confused about the purple beauty description on yunnansourcing's site. Is the purple bud they contrast purple beauty against typically referred to as purple varietal tea or is that entirely different?

[Anonymous No.20223345]

>>20210969
you are fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.20223346]

>>20210969
yep, thats all you need

[Anonymous No.20223353]

>>20223321
There is an explanation at the top here
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/purple-tea
Those sun dried buds / Assamica Dehongensis are kind of a meme, don't buy a ton of them.
Outside of that purple teas tend to taste purple lots of them have a kind of citronella vibe.

[Anonymous No.20223357]

>>20223353
Describe the taste of purple please

[Anonymous No.20223358]

>>20223226
Man that sounds fun. Did you get anything identifiable?

[Anonymous No.20223359]

>>20223226
Do you have any pics (of the store and/or the tea)?

[Anonymous No.20223361]

>>20223357
If you ever used to be a stoner did you notice that all purple weed has the same flavor? its that, sort of.

[Anonymous No.20223365]

ok I've drank 2.5l of tea since the afternoon, how much more can I drink before I die

[Anonymous No.20223381]

>>20223365
I was drinking 30-35 grams a day for a while before i cut back to 15-20 grams

[Anonymous No.20223386]

>>20223365
probably a good bit more if youve already gone that far. caffeine doesnt have any effect on me so ive easily drank several liters a day in place of water since it doesnt do anything to me.

[Anonymous No.20223390]

this post to ip ratio is insane

[Anonymous No.20223395]

>>20223390
how so

[Anonymous No.20223396]

>>20223390
I don't understand why people think treads with 200 posts where everyone posts once is desirable.

[Anonymous No.20223403]

>>20223390
/tea/ is a very small community of puerh lesbians, trans weeb folks, and yellow fever autistics. They know tea but they’re odd ducks.

[Anonymous No.20223411]

>>20223396
i agree, ive just never noticed the contrary until now here

[Anonymous No.20223417]

>>20223396
>>20223403
>>20223411
what? I thought that >>20223390 is complaining about high IP count
is 55IP for 256posts small? I've been to generals with 500/35 and thought it was normal

[Anonymous No.20223422]

>>20223226
You went to the tea master pocket dimension. He must have been surpressing his Qi the entire time or merely being in his presence would have killed you. You should be thankful that you lived, do not seek another meeting.
https://youtu.be/8l0WnLWT40g

[Anonymous No.20223437]

>>20223403
Hey now, there are some actual asian people here.

[Anonymous No.20223454]

I'm gonna drink a ton of Japanese greens this year, anyone know where I can get a decent Kyusu with a ceramic filter? I want something of alright quality, but there's no point splurging for something excellent because I'm probably going to fucking drop it in a year like an idiot. $60-ish is probably what I'd like to pay but I could go a bit higher.

[Anonymous No.20223480]

>>20223454
Sazen tea, take a look through their selection. Though i should mention some reviews saying the 120ml kyusus tend to be closer to 100ml.
https://www.sazentea.com/en/products/c15-teapot
You can also look on ebay and filter by only items shipping from japan.

[Anonymous No.20223484]

>>20223454
Also here
https://www.yuuki-cha.com/japanese-teapots

[Anonymous No.20223489]

>>20223437
Prove it senpai ;)

[Anonymous No.20223492]

>>20208338
2018 Menghai "Wu Zi Deng Ke" Ripe Pu-erh Mini Tea Cake
7 grams, 150 ml. 7 mins steep. tastey.
Dark and pretty thick liquid. Plum cherry. kinda tart and slightly astringent. its not chocolatey like the 7572 which i like. I wouldnt buy this again. bought a small cake.

[Anonymous No.20223501]

>>20223492
I think someone here bought one of those a few years ago and said they wouldn't buy it again. Kind of surprising because you would expect a cake like that to be easy to drink and not astringent

[Anonymous No.20223512]

>>20223501
>Kind of surprising because you would expect a cake like that to be easy to drink and not astringent
>astringent
yeah i wouldnt expect that too, however, ignoring the astringent, the tea is good, like its thick and dark and rich and has slight plum or cherry. No reason to get this instead of 7572. but it is slight a little more quality-ish tasting than 7572, ignoring the astringent. like its smoother. but the caffeine kick is pretty strong.

[Anonymous No.20223517]

>>20223512
>thick and dark and rich and has slight plum or cherry
That's the good stuff

[Anonymous No.20223525]

>>20223517
yes it is, so this tea is good if you want that plus astringency.

[Anonymous No.20223673]

>>20223226
>>20223422
>Anon visited the tea vampire's pocket dimension and forgot the directions

[Anonymous No.20223907]

>>20222783
Better than nothing. If you went that route, I would spill keep your teas in the bags they came in. I'm not a huge fan of the plastic lining either, but it's fine. If you want, you can transfer them to mylar.
As for silica gel packs, are you referring to the Heartfelt beads? Anon and I do recommend those. I've gradually been tossing my Boveda packs as a result.

[Anonymous No.20224223]

>>20223907
I think he meant the moisture absorbers not the humidity beads.

[Anonymous No.20224534]

>>20222497
Laobanzhang

[Anonymous No.20224616]

>>20222352
Indeed. I do often note citrus notes in many of my shengs but also not always even on the same tea. I definitivly have tasted citrus notes on the fa zhan he but not in my latest session with that tea.

Sometimes you have a good sessions and sometimes you don't.

[Anonymous No.20224620]

>>20222497
"Ostfriesentee". Tea they drink in east frisia. It's absolutley perfect with milk and sugar.
An alternative would probably be some form of breakfast tea but imo ostfriesentee is better.

[Anonymous No.20224682]

>>20223226
just hope the tea isn't cursed

[Anonymous No.20224691]

>>20223454
atistitic nippon has some pretty ones, although they tend to be a bit big
https://www.artisticnippon.com/product/arita/iroeumekikumonteapot.html

[Anonymous No.20225165]

>>20221973
>Dry leaves smells like plum
yeah plum is a common note in sheng. I get it more often from 10 year old sheng than brand new stuff though
I really like the fa zhan he myself. do you get the "fluffy" texture? I thought the citrus was more in the aftertaste
the bangwai is more fruity IIRC

[Anonymous No.20225187]

>>20224691
That's gorgeous!

[Anonymous No.20225368]

I wrote a thing about puers but it's too long so I made a paste bin
https://pastebin.com/cyHBw2KA
If you are new and wondering what they are all about, give it a read.
If you are a veteran feel free to disagree or give any suggestions.
Feel free to ask anything of course

[Anonymous No.20225372]

is this a good time to buy green /tea/ ?

[Anonymous No.20225378]

>>20225372
It is too early for 2024 greens, I would not expect any significant quantity to be grown, processed, and distributed before April at the very earliest. However you can get 2023 greens at cheaper prices now, taking the risk that they might be too stale.

[Anonymous No.20225382]

>>20225368
>pastebin
>not rentry

[Anonymous No.20225406]

>>20225368
You should check out the reviews on mei leaf. You'd think every one of his puers tastes like 10 different kinds of fruit jam and candy all at once.

[Anonymous No.20225417]

>>20225382
Sorry, I'm not up to date on the latest /g/ meme site.
>>20225406
Just like in wine, there will be bullshit everywhere. I try to be down to earth and call shit out.

[Anonymous No.20225425]

>>20225368
Thanks for the write up, interesting perspective. I think you are probably right that bitterness / astringency can go understated in reviews of young raw puer, i guess to some extent its expected or taken for granted so it doesn't get mentioned as strongly unless its really pronounced or unique in some way.
That said i have to wonder if your hard water is contributing a bit to the lack of sweetness you are getting. In my own experience my hard water tends to mute flavors some and i can usually tell when its time to change my water filters based on how the tea tastes.

[Anonymous No.20225429]

>>20225368
I kind of agree with the assessments of FarmerLeaf raws. though ngl, I did get a lot of citrus from the Dong Guo
the yellow flakes is a little more tricky to brew right than I thought it would be. good sweetness though if you get it right
I have a sample of the 2023 Tang Fang Liang Zi and not impressed so far, but maybe it will still click with me

[Anonymous No.20225439]

>>20225368
also yeah, part of the appeal of young raw for me is the "untamed primal" thing. it's bitter, astringent with often odd flavors and complexities, it doesn't feel as deliberately created as most tea

[Anonymous No.20225571]

>>20223226
do you have any leads that you remember about where it was? as in any places it was next to or near?
>>20225368
why does pastebin have a button to show you screenshots of night mode in action but no button to switch between them

[Anonymous No.20225973]

I'm surprised the only yellow tea I could find is this cheapo stuff at fullchea. Anyone know anywhere else that sells it?
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/huoshan-huangya-yellow-tea-loose-leaf-spring-500g

[Anonymous No.20226009]

>>20223226
I wonder if you could go street view and retrace your route.

[Anonymous No.20226061]

>>20225973
I bought another cheap one in a lcoal store, under the name Huang Xiao. it's quite good actually, not complex but very sweet, nutty-chocolaty roasted flavor

[Anonymous No.20226072]

What's the best for a classical English style breakfast tea? is it Ceylon? Or maybe Kenya? Or Chinese like a Keemun?

[Anonymous No.20226081]

>>20226072
Keemun definitely
the English only stopped using it when they couldn't get it anymore

[Anonymous No.20226089]

>>20226061
Yeah, been quite some years since I had yellow but I recall enjoying that easy going nutty profile. Maybe I'll just look around the asian supermarkets.
It's a bit odd that guys like YS and KTM don't seem to stock any at all.

[Anonymous No.20226110]

>>20225973
Yunnan Sourcing (but only the US site)
Dragon Tea House
Teavivre
Mei Leaf

[Anonymous No.20226118]

>>20226110
Nice DTH are actually selling quite a few different options. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.20226195]

>>20225973
>Anyone know anywhere else that sells it?
Seven cups has the primo luxury yellow tea. Shit's expensive, but its the fancy stuff
https://sevencups.com/shop-category/yellow-tea/
There is also these compressed nuggets that are called yellow tea, totally different tea with completely different processing i think.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/282764529850?

[Anonymous No.20226217]

Finally got around to trying Da Hong Pao and Shui Jin Gui, subtle differences in the flavor, but for me da hong pao is definitely my favorite. Probably the best tea I've ever had so far, to be honest. I love the earthiness of other oolongs, but there's something about the sweet aroma and smooth, almost sweet taste of the wuyi oolongs that I haven't really tasted anywhere else, yet, but then again there's tons of teas out there I haven't tried. Definitely gonna be ordering more da hong pao and probably hairy crab soon.
>>20208347
Also, how good is ginseng tea? I've heard ginseng is a great herb for its health benefits but how does it taste?

Hong meiling image cuz her theme is shanghai teahouse

[Anonymous No.20226256]

>>20226195
Those nuggets are pretty tempting, what even is that.
>>20226217
>you have to drink all the tea

[Anonymous No.20226293]

>>20226217
Wuyi oolongs are some of the best teas out there. I wouldn't drink anything else if i could afford to buy 4 kilos of yancha a year.
>how does ginseng taste?
It tastes like medicinal herbs / a root. I think it tastes fine but not really something i would drink just for the flavor. Lots of people like to add some honey to ginseng teas. You can also brew it with those dried Jujube Red Dates that the Chinese add to a lot of their tea and soup blends.

[Anonymous No.20226307]

can bunnies eat sheng

[Anonymous No.20226316]

>>20226256
>Those nuggets are pretty tempting, what even is that.
Its sold as jun shan yin zhen which is what the fancy yellow tea is called. Based on the price im guessing it's tea made in that style but not from the designated island to the the true authentic yellow tea since that stuff is like $50 an oz. Not sure about the compression or how the processing might be different beyond that.

[Anonymous No.20226318]

rate my order faggots

[Anonymous No.20226325]

>>20226318
Its fine, those blooming teas are kind of a meme but at least its just black tea and not those ones with flowers and shit in them. Osmathus oolong is great, at least the one i had a few years ago. Lao cha tu is fun, brew them long with really hot water.

[Anonymous No.20226421]

I just got my order of this 2022 sampler from Oldwaystea in after some anons recommended me try them since I said I wanted to get more into Wuyi teas and expand my vendor horizons from YS and Verdant Tea.
https://oldwaystea.com/products/2022-oolong-sample?taxon_id=38
Nice packaging and got 2 free samples as well.
I am starting with the Da Hong Pao as I also enjoy them.
RIght from the start this is a heavier roast than I have had before.
Smells and tastes suitably rocky/mineral as I was expecting. The roast comes through as an almost okay and smoky/ashy quality. It is very smooth and pretty full bodied and juicy. Some interesting almost berry qualties (blueberry?).
Overall I am looking forward to working my way through this.
>>20224691
NTA but damn, this website is awesome. Why have you shown me this, now I need to constantly stop myself from ordering some of this stuff... The hagi, iga, and bizen ware stuff is calling my name.

[Anonymous No.20226433]

>>20226307
Don't abuse your bunnies, anon. Post bunny.

[Anonymous No.20226454]

Any good sources for reading up on the concept of Cha Qi? I see it used a lot these days as a marketing term, but I'm interested in its origin and actual, non-I-made-this-up-to-sell-tea meaning, or, I guess various interpretations of it as is usually the case with these things.

[Anonymous No.20226459]

>>20226421
Nice, enjoy dat yancha

[Anonymous No.20226479]

>>20226454
It basically just means the perceived energy of the tea, be it calming, stimulating, relaxing, hot, cold etc.
You can just read about the concept of qi in general or as it pertains to traditional Chinese medicine since i don't think you will find a good explanation of cha qi specifically.
The term certainly does get thrown around a lot without much context.

[Anonymous No.20226510]

>>20209099
The takeaway is that basically everything in large doses is carcinogenic and our livers filter out or breakdown most of them when taken in normal sized amounts.

[Anonymous No.20226646]

can i use steel wool on a gaiwan? ive been wanting to clean it for awhile and im not too sure how. i know soap can give it a funky scent, so i wanna avoid that. steel wool did the job for today but id imagine im going rub the glaze off if i do it often enough

[Anonymous No.20226647]

I forget when it was but to the anon who posted about the sardine/fish porcelain and wanting one, it's back in stock at artistic nippon

[Anonymous No.20226724]

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[Anonymous No.20226725]

>>20226647
Sure is anon, I've placed my order. I wonder how many they made.

[Anonymous No.20226789]

>>20226646
Don't use steel wool it could damage the glaze
I use those magic eraser scrubbing sponges and then rinse it thoroughly afterwards

[Anonymous No.20226805]

>>20226789
magic erasers are essentially very fine grit sandpaper, it's probably mostly fine for this application but i would use it somewhat sparingly. it could affect the finish, mostly just the sheen at first.

[Anonymous No.20227984]

>>20226646
Glazed or unglazed? If glazed, just use diswashing detergent and whatever sponge you normally use for dishes.
>>20226789
>>20226805
How do we feel about scentless dishwashing detergent for unglazed pots?

[Anonymous No.20227996]

>>20225368
Your microplastics aversion is taking at least half the value of your tea away.