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>https://www.japan-guide.com/topic/0106.html

WTF? Mackerel/Saba is the most hated fish in Japan for sashimi? I never saw that coming... It's tactually the best one with probably the most robust flavor of any of them. Is this like a social class thing because it's a cheaper fish?

I've seen chefs say its the best one. Explain please, i find these results really bizarre, especially with Uni being so high proving they didn't just poll uncultured normies...

>> No.20177720

That is suprising as fuck. Saba is easily my favourite fish-based sashimi

>> No.20177724

The taste is waaay too fishy.

>> No.20177726

Fresh mackerel has a very strong flavour many people find challenging. It's also one of the cheaper fish so it lacks the prestige associated with costlier ones. Those would be my guesses as to why people aren't placing it higher on their of top sushi fish.

>> No.20177730

Eel or bust

>> No.20177731

>>20177710
it's amazing when the saba oil mixes with the warm sushi rice

>> No.20177733

>>20177730
Eels are going extinct

>> No.20177738

>>20177733
And?
Nuke the Chinese, that'll solve it.

>> No.20177740

>>20177726
No one eats it fresh. They have parasites. its cured in vinegar. and it tastes awesome, but apparently ppl hate it.
i saw a poll of sushi chefs and a lot of them had it as their favorite. so this really is bizarre to me.

>> No.20177742

>>20177738
They don't eat eel in China

>> No.20177754

>>20177742
what the fuck yes they do
>t. been to China many times for business trips

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>>20177742
Never heard the meme that Chinese eat anything alive?
Pretty sure they ate a endagered species of turtle into extinction. So I wouldn't put it above them to eat eels into exinction.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/crackdown-on-eating-endangered-animals-in-china/7t5w45o2j
>Not all the produce is illegal but a huge sign touted giant salamanders, which are classed as critically endangered - one level below "extinct in the wild" - on the International Union for the Conservation of Nature's Red List of threatened species.

>> No.20177767

>>20177740
Does curing/smoking kill parasite eggs?

>> No.20177770

>>20177767
ive never gotten one and its supposedly excruciating the specfic ones that are in macks

>> No.20177785

>>20177710
>most robust flavor
There's your answer. Japan puts emphasis on subtle flavors, seeing them as more refined.

>> No.20177791

>>20177785
and yet uni, which is why i mentioned it.
theres nothing subtle about uni.

>> No.20177793

>>20177785
Glorious Nippon is all about that umami mouthfeel folded six japrillion times

>> No.20177799

>>20177791
But uni is 2nd most disliked (as well as 2nd most liked).

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>>20177761
>noooo desperately impoverished people cant just use local resources what about the heckin sallymandarinos i didnt even know about two seconds ago!!
Fuck you you slimy fed bastard at least they actually eat the things and don't just kill them for fun

>> No.20177804

I dont understand why people order tamago. Shit sucks

>> No.20177809

>>20177800
>noooo desperately impoverished people
They can't be hungry if they're nuked into exitnction.
Fuck the Chinese. And fuck you you sinophile.

Also:
>china super succesful, outpower the US!
>noooo, muh hungry, impoverished chinese peasants!
lol.

>> No.20177857

>>20177740
You are not very smart.

>> No.20177882

>>20177710
Mackerel is my absolute favorite for sushi.

>>20177724
>>20177726
The strong fishiness is exactly what I love about it

>> No.20177898

>>20177761
Yeah and the giant salamanders live in the CONUS as their natural habitat. They are discretely harvested and shipped abroad where they fetch eye watering sums.

Some guy did a mini doc on them and he had to not disclose where this particular habitat was located.

>> No.20177914

>>20177857
it kills them chud. im safe when i enjoy my saba.

>> No.20177921

>>20177914
You are not very smart.

>> No.20177922

>when they slice the tako lengthwise and you can see the ruffle of every sucker along its silhouette

>> No.20177948

>>20177921
I love myxosporean parasites. I stick motherfucking myxosporean parasites in my socks at night so they smell like your sister's crotch in the morning! All right? So leave the fucking, cocksucking parasite eggs where they are

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>>20177882
>>20177785
When I went to Japan I remember eating sushi and being slightly disappointed how subtle the taste was. It was so fresh, it hardly tasted like "fish".

I'm from the Midwest btw.

>> No.20177971

>>20177882
there are also idiots out there that don't like the gaminess of lamb

>> No.20177978

>>20177971
Lamb tastes like lamb, not gamey. The taste is pretty unique to it.

>> No.20177983

>>20177965
Don't leave us, Paul, I will miss your autism.

>> No.20177987

>>20177978
True, that's just how I describe it to people that want lamb to taste like generic beef. I prefer mutton in general.

>> No.20177996

>>20177987
but... it's nothing like game meat...

>> No.20178044

>>20177710
its a seasonal thing
mackerel in japan is seen as something you grill, roast or marinade & simmer in autumn, not really a sushi fish.
its like asking why americans dont make burgers out of lamb

>> No.20178070

toro is over-rated same with wagyu

>> No.20178127

>>20178044
>its like asking why americans dont make burgers out of lamb
But we do

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>>20177882

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>>20178044
The type and origin of mackerel used for sushi changes with the seasons
The quality and price of the fish varies widely.
The meat has a unique flavor and is seasoned with salt and vinegar, which some people like and others dislike.
Low quality mackerel prepared by a poor chef tastes very bad.

>> No.20178411

>>20178127
Never seen one.

>> No.20178418

Buri is worst. Tai is a best.

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>>20177800
>China
>local resources

>> No.20178448

>>20178411
Try leaving your small town flyover shithole for once in your life.

>> No.20178473

>>20177738
>>20177761
>thread is about japanese food, japanese survey, in japan
>CHINA, CHINA, CHINAAAA
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