Stop eating shit, buy a fucking vegetable for once.

[Anonymous No.20121593]

Humans evolved eating what vegetables they could easily and safely forage and animal protein that either did not fight back or was easy to kill.

On an evolutionary timescale hunting and farming happened basically yesterday. Even when hunting became a part of our lives, meat was a rarity. Fish has always been a much more reliable source of food. Our ancestors ate the bugs. Our bodies are still wired to eat like those ancestors. Buy vegetables and buy fish.

[Anonymous No.20121603]

inb4 some tard says humans are carnivores. people ate whatever they could get their hands on and could digest. however, gathering doesn't leave the evidence hunting does which skews the historical evidence

[Anonymous No.20121614]

>>20121593
animals dont evolve to achieve perfection, they evolve "enough" to survive and procreate
so yes, humans may have evolved to eat in certain ways that allowed survival, but not necessarily to bring them to their most fit state, its possible to improve our diet with modern knowledge of nutrition

[Anonymous No.20121664]

>>20121593
>Humans evolved eating what vegetables they could easily and safely forage and animal protein that either did not fight back or was easy to kill.
incorrect.
please get well soon.

[Anonymous No.20121696]

>>20121593
Oh good, the daily bro science thread is finally here.

[Anonymous No.20121738]

>>20121593
>evolutionary timescale
do libcucks really believe in the evolution meme? lmao

[Anonymous No.20121793]

>>20121593
yes, humans chose low calorie vegetables to high calorie meat that provides all the nutrients they need.

[Anonymous No.20121867]

>>20121593
>On an evolutionary timescale hunting and farming happened basically yesterday
Yet we have races that adapted to being able to drink milk from animals. Humans are slow at change, but that doesn't mean change has never happened. Humans are highly adaptable, and will change habits to survive, and that shit becomes cultural over time.

[Anonymous No.20121880]

And God said: Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed upon the earth, and all trees that have in themselves seed of their own kind, to be your meat: And to all beasts of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to all that move upon the earth, and wherein there is life, that they may have to feed upon. And it was so done.

[Anonymous No.20121901]

>>20121880
Too bad he has recently been so busy giving children cancer he hasn't really done anything for the rest of us.

[Anonymous No.20122843]

>>20121901
Dupont aka your fellow man in sin and total depravity of the flesh gave those kids cancer with the work of their hands, pig dog wretch
Nice whataboutism that absolves you of acting in any moral way thoughbeit
Have another abortion about it

[Anonymous No.20122853]

>>20121880
Leviticus 3:17
"You must never eat any fat or blood. This is a permanent law for you, and it must be observed from generation to generation, wherever you live.”

Numbers 11:19-20
"You will eat it not for just one, two, five, ten, or even twenty days, but you will eat that meat for a whole month. You will eat it until it comes out your nose, and you will grow to hate it. This is because you have rejected the LORD, who is with you."

Psalm 36:6
"Your righteousness is like the highest mountains, your justice like the great deep. You, LORD, preserve both people and animals."

Isaiah 65:25
"The wolf and the lamb will feed together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox, and dust will be the serpent’s food. They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain,” says the LORD."

[Anonymous No.20122855]

>>20121880
>>20122853
Daniel 1:12-20
"12 “Please test your servants for ten days: Give us nothing but vegetables to eat and water to drink. 13 Then compare our appearance with that of the young men who eat the royal food, and treat your servants in accordance with what you see.” 14 So he agreed to this and tested them for ten days.

15 At the end of the ten days they looked healthier and better nourished than any of the young men who ate the royal food. 16 So the guard took away their choice food and the wine they were to drink and gave them vegetables instead.

17 To these four young men God gave knowledge and understanding of all kinds of literature and learning. And Daniel could understand visions and dreams of all kinds.

18 At the end of the time set by the king to bring them into his service, the chief official presented them to Nebuchadnezzar. 19 The king talked with them, and he found none equal to Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah; so they entered the king’s service. 20 In every matter of wisdom and understanding about which the king questioned them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and enchanters in his whole kingdom."

[Anonymous No.20122860]

>>20121593
I had a pork chop with broccoli last night : )

[Anonymous No.20122869]

>>20121603
Humans are herbivores. Inb4 someone says we're omnivores because we can digest meat. Not true. Every herbivorous animal technically can digest meat. It's just that humans, like all apes, were meant to be primarily PLANT eaters. That makes us herbivores. Some examples of actually omnivorous animals who need considerable animal and plant sources in their food: dogs, bears.

[Anonymous No.20122878]

>>20122869
We are not just herbivores, but frugivores. Everything points to this: our sweet tooth (seeking out the sugar of fruit) and our salt tooth (only herbivores, not omnivores or carnivores, can taste salt). There's also our flat teeth, useless for ripping apart flesh and perfect for biting into a nice, juicy apple. Even our meat has to be ground up or cut into tiny pieces with utensils.

[Anonymous No.20122887]

>>20122878
>Even our meat has to be ground up or cut into tiny pieces with utensils.
With bigger pieces of meat from tougher animals, but there are plenty of small animals we could eat without having to do that.

[Anonymous No.20122891]

>>20122869
Humanity literally only evolved higher intelligence because of all the fat we got from eating animals lmao

[Anonymous No.20122892]

>>20122860
How did you cook the broccoli?

[Anonymous No.20122894]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=BOyebcrVWb4

[Anonymous No.20122895]

>>20121593
>>20121603
Humans are frugivores. We evolved in regions where fruit was plentiful year round and that was the bulk of our diet, which is why our bodies are most similar to other frugivorous primates like orangutans and why a high carb, low fat diet has been consistently proven to be the healthiest one.

That said, "frugivore" means "primarily fruit", not "exclusively fruit". Orangutans occasionally eat bird eggs, honey, insects, small vertebrates, etc. If you care about eating the optimal diet or about eating what early humans actually ate, your diet should be mostly fruit and honey supplemented by small amounts of nutrient-dense animal foods like eggs and organ meats.

The transition to a meat-heavy diet was a necessity caused by migration to less temperate regions. Humans are extremely adaptable when it comes to diet but just because people figured out a way to survive and find food in extreme climates does not mean that the traditional lives and diets of people living in subarctic climates is normal or optimal.

[Anonymous No.20122897]

>>20122892
well, it was technically broccolini, but I sautéed it in the leftover fat from cooking the pork chops and then hit it with some lemon juice salt and pepper, less than 5 minutes from fridge to plate

[Anonymous No.20122900]

>>20122895
see >>20122891
Our ancestors were eating animals in Africa.

[Anonymous No.20122902]

>>20121593
thats bull. humans have been around far longer than mainstream sources would have you believe. we reached technology and civilization levels that were pretty advanced, but fell into ruin. agriculture been around longer than they say.

[Anonymous No.20122904]

>>20122902
source: it came to you in a dream

[Anonymous No.20122903]

>>20122891
That's just one of many theories, young man. There are plenty of competing theories
>https://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/comm/steen/cogweb/Abstracts/Pennisi_99.html
>A controversial new theory suggests that cooking--in particular, cooking tubers--sparked a crucial turning point in human evolution
which suggest other possibilities. You probably shouldn't base your diet on half-remembered theories you heard a decade ago.

[Anonymous No.20122906]

>>20122903
>controversial new theory
Well, my theory isn't controversial, and holds much more weight than your schizo nonsense.

[Anonymous No.20122911]

>>20122900
see
>>20122903

One, you're basing your argument on an extremely superficial understanding of the topic. Two, read my entire post
>>20122895
>That said, "frugivore" means "primarily fruit", not "exclusively fruit"
>your diet should be mostly fruit and honey supplemented by small amounts of nutrient-dense animal foods like eggs and organ meats.

Our "ancestors" began as tree-dwelling primates and it was quite a long time before we were capable of sprinting around after quadrupeds, at which point our digestive systems were quite thoroughly formed. Yes we can eat meat, yes we should eat meat, no it should not be a primary food source because we never were and never will be carnivores.

[Anonymous No.20122913]

>>20122911
Nobody is saying we are carnivores. We are omnivores.

[Anonymous No.20122914]

>>20122906
You didn't even know that there were other theories, but you knew that yours is the only one that everyone agrees on? We're all anonymous here; there's no shame in admitting that you're in over your head. This is an opportunity for you to learn from people who know more than you, not to double down on your ignorance.

[Anonymous No.20122917]

>>20122913
>We are omnivores.
This is just a cope from midwits who are too scared to take a firm position.
>n-no, every answer is correct, there's no food that's good or bad for you, we should eat everything, just in, uh, in moderation...
The vast majority of humans eat an omnivorous diet and the vast majority of humans are in terrible health. And to be frank, you couldn't even define "omnivore" without looking it up.

[Anonymous No.20122922]

>>20122917
>you couldn't even define "omnivore" without looking it up
I was in all AP classes in high school including AP biology; I'm pretty sure I know what an omnivore is lmao.

[Anonymous No.20122930]

When I go on a hike, I make sure to collect all the broccoli & asparagus that grows everywhere.

[Anonymous No.20122936]

>>20122930
Broccoli is a domesticated plant that was developed over hundreds of years by crossing wild mustard varieties.

[Anonymous No.20122937]

>>20122922
>high school
Oh dear. Well, my former points still stand, especially >>20122914, but I apologize for my tone. It's so easy to assume I'm interacting with people on an equal footing that I sometimes forget how fond people are of adopting the pretense of expertise.

[Anonymous No.20122942]

>>20122937
>expertise
>knowing the definition of a common word
lol
Are you familiar with the Dunning-Kruger effect?

[Anonymous No.20122948]

>>20122942
I clearly wasn't referring to the definition of a word, but to the fact that you believed a reference to what you did in high school to be some sort of evidence of how well learned you are. But as I said, this should have been very clear from the grammar of my post - did you perhaps skip "AP" English?

In any case, human nutrition, especially considered from an evolutionary perspective, is an extremely complex topic and while it's all fine and well to have strong opinions on the subject, I'd suggest that you do much more research before attempting to have this sort of debate again.

[Anonymous No.20122954]

>>20122948
>believed a reference to what you did in high school to be some sort of evidence of how well learned you are
Actually, the point was that "omnivore" is such a basic concept that literally any high schooler would know it, so someone who was in AP classes would definitely know it. based retard with no reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.20122957]

>>20122917
>The vast majority of humans eat an omnivorous diet and the vast majority of humans are in terrible health.
That's due to modern highly processed foods. That doesn't mean being an omnivore is bad.

[Anonymous No.20122966]

>>20122957
All humans breathe air and the vast majority of humans are in terrible health, therefore air is bad for you.

[Anonymous No.20122967]

>>20122966
That's due to modern highly polluted air. That doesn't mean breathing air is bad.

[Anonymous No.20122971]

>>20122967
Most humans have legs, and the vast majority of humans are in terrible health.

[Anonymous No.20122974]

>>20122971
Thatbuds aidif sair. Tijfd aijdgigodo gsabad.

[Anonymous No.20122993]

>>20122913
We may be omnivores but we are far closer to herbivores than carnivores. Our: intenstine-length/torso-size ratio; our stomach acid pH; our teeth; our gullet size; the amount of waking ours; our aversion* to gore, blood, and infection; the amount of time spent awake vs. asleep; our anatomy (think how felines and canine have those permanently curved limbs - their anatomy is based on pursuit and as a result their tendons and ligaments bear a greater percentage of the weight of their body mass which is much more energy intensive, hence the time spent awake. (I understand I'm conflating 'hunter' and 'carnivore' but it's just an example. Obviously vultures defy this, but I'm talking mammals) ); our ability to detect smells is more akin to prey animals than predators. Herbivores have a near endless amount of food sources and their upper ceiling for smell is the ability to detect outright rotten/fermented materials as it may poison them. Carnivores are much more limited in their food sources and so being able to sniff out illness is actually beneficial to them hence why they target weak, sick animals (also the reason canids can smell cancers and shit, btw) (they don't get sick because of the pH balance of their stomach); the anatomy of our eyes is that of herbivores - carnivores have lots of rods and very few cones which is the opposite of a human eye; carnivores are mostly solitary while humans are mostly social; human breast milk is more nutritionally similar to herbivore milk than carnivore milk; the muscular structure of the head; we produce enzymes in our saliva specifically for starch, etcetera etcetera etbloodycetera

[Anonymous No.20122998]

>>20122993
>We may be omnivores
I'm glad we agree.

[Anonymous No.20123003]

>>20122855
Imagine countering Exhibit-A-of-Bullshit-from-a-book with contradictory Exhibit-B-of-Bullshit-from-the-same-book and not concluding "this book is fucking fake and gay"

[Anonymous No.20123006]

>>20122891
If humans were capable of making tools traps, and coordination to kill animals then they were already highly intelligent. The stoned ape theory holds more weight than this bullshit and even that is a stretch

[Anonymous No.20123011]

>>20122998
We don't agree. To the uneducated and ignorant the fact that we can digest meat is literally the end all and be all. If you don't understand nuance and optimisation that is enough to put the issue to bed, which is good for you I suppose. It must be make your mind up at 8 and plug your ears fo the rest of your life

[Anonymous No.20123043]

>>20123006
We scavenged before we ever hunted, smashing animal bones with heavy rocks to get the sweet sweet marrow inside.
>>20123011
Literally my only point was that humans are omnivores and we evolved to be able to eat a wide variety of foods, which is true.

[Anonymous No.20123062]

>>20122930
When I go on hikes in the winter I look everywhere for broccoli and berries but all I find are cute and nourishing Pearl onions. Mmmm onions make grug strong.

[Anonymous No.20123084]

>>20123062
broccoli doesn't grow in the wild, it's a man made plant