/ctg/ Coffee Time General

[Anonymous No.20103296]

Thread for discussing coffee and coffee-related topics

Looks good to me edition.

If you're new or confused, start here: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLz
If you're old and confused, get any good donuts lately?

Previous thread:>>20092038

[Anonymous No.20103361]

mmmm
bed

[Anonymous No.20103392]

A local Japanese nanoroaster gave me the last of his light roast to try at half price, it's just a paper sack with "Costa Rica 260g" written on it and it's better than the Panama La Esmeralda Gesha I tried last week at a place with three vintage GT-Rs out front. Ran with SSP and Gen 2 and it's not even close, Hedrick was right after all.

[Anonymous No.20103616]

If anyone's considering getting a cheap chink dosing ring for a sage/breville style 54mm portafilter, I recommend this thing over pic related
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006101959554.html
It's stainless steel, which is actually kind of a downside since it makes it significantly heavier and it doesn't stick on as well, but the insert shit at the bottom of pic related is genuinely horrible. For 58mm portafilters there's a lot of choice for good dosing rings, for 54mm all I've been able to find is this and normcore rings, which are more expensive.

[Anonymous No.20103619]

>>20103616
Should add, you want the A model, the B model has the same insert shit.

[Anonymous No.20103684]

slow feeding beans on ssp mp makes your grind like 100u coarser but basically eliminates fines and hedrick is practically the only one saying anything to newfags

[Anonymous No.20103706]

>>20103267
I don't follow these competitions, why are they seething? Surely the machine they're making the espresso with is entirely irrelevant to the actual thing that's being judged (the latte art)?

[Anonymous No.20103746]

>>20103706
That steam wand is designed to froth a large volume of milk with no barista input needed. Creating the specific texture you need for latte art is a skill to develop. It would be kind of like the
>World watercolor painting championship
getting sponsored by an industrial paint sprayer company and forcing everyone to compete with one of these. Specialty coffee association took the bag, the people competing get fucked for a few years.

[Anonymous No.20103823]

>>20103746
Does that particular competition purely judge latte art (as in what the finished article looks like in the cup), or is it also supposed to factor in the participant's ability to steam/texture their own milk with a manual steam wand? If it's the former then you could argue that using a machine that gives everyone the same milk to work with is fairer, and the only distinguishing factor is the artist's ability to pour (assuming the machine is consistent enough to produce almost identical milk each time). If it's the latter, then admittedly that sort of defeats the entire point of the competition. But ultimately the artist is still pouring the latte art themselves, it's not the same as your analogy since the actual pouring isn't being done by the machine.

[Anonymous No.20103974]

>>20103823
>is it also supposed to factor in the participant's ability to steam/texture their own milk with a manual steam wand
There's the visual scoring and the technical scoring. Part of the (2023) technical scoring is extracting shots within a 3 second variance and
>The competitor should display an understanding of the correct use and operation of the steam wand in creating the required quality of textured milk.
Kind of pointless to use a superautomatic when you're being judged on your own technical ability of using a grinder and espresso machine to create a "canvas" of and properly mix your "paint" Quickly stitched that picture together from the visual scoring sheet and the rules/regulations. I don't really give a shit, but its a very dumb move by the SCA. If the only goal is to advertise for your sponsors, eliminate the technical evaluation and just get hoffmeme to deliver shots and pitchers of milk to the competitors. Like a showgirl.
https://www.worldlatteart.org/rules/

[Anonymous No.20104200]

I know this gets asked alot but what is the best budget hand grinder for pour over and what's a decent cheap pour over setup?

[Anonymous No.20104208]

>>20104200
Depends where you're located but Kingrinder k6 + plastic v60(or switch, origami, aeropress, orea, april, pegasus etc etc etc) is a fantastic budget combo.

[Anonymous No.20104247]

>>20104200
Someone around here should have the hand grinder chart.

[Anonymous No.20104276]

>>20104200
>>20104247
wa la
May be out of date since I had to go on an archive dive for the last time I can remember it being posted
As for the actual pourover just get a plastic V60

[Anonymous No.20104324]

>>20104276
Why plastic over glass

[Anonymous No.20104341]

>>20104324
Thermal conduction
Being able to quickly and evenly heat your brewer is very useful

[Anonymous No.20104345]

>>20104276
Eh its current enough. I think the last thing I added was the zp6 and I never posted the new one.
>>20104324
>decent cheap pour over
Cheap, widely available, more durable than glass/ceramic, better temp stability.

[Anonymous No.20104833]

>>20104200
I use 1zpresso, the zp6 special is made specifically for pour over. I got a jmax on sale and have no complaints.

[Anonymous No.20105621]

11pm coff
i have had my fill of sumatra
but i still have about 10 cups worth left.

[Anonymous No.20105651]

Anyone here used a Rok EspressoGC? How does it compare to other manual machines like the Flair, or other budget electric espresso machines. I'm in the UK, so they work out cheaper than a Flair and if you're willing to buy a refurbished one, they go for as cheap as £85.

[Anonymous No.20105665]

>>20105651
i have no idea
but i do have the rok grinder(i dont grind for espresso so i cant judge that application of the grinder) and i love it.
but as always, just ask yourself, what does the hoff think?
and the answer is he seemed to like both of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdsqF83x9rA

[Anonymous No.20105669]

Second shot of the morning.
15g in -> 40g out.
First shot was at 1-4-3 on the JX Pro, pulled in 45 seconds total with around a 10 second preinfusion. It was good but felt maybe slightly overextracted. Went to 1-5-0 on this one and it pulled way quicker, 29 seconds, even with a similar 10 seconds preinfusion. This tasted very nice and balanced, though.

[Anonymous No.20105742]

>>20104200
Kingrinder P2 mogs every other grinder under 100 since its just a plastic updated K6. I would even argue while it does espresso worse, pour over grind is way more consistent than my K6

[Anonymous No.20105819]

>>20103296
local coffee place (which i frequent) is hiring. never had a job before, but i'm pretty knowledgable about coffee i'd really love to help out. anyone with experience could give me a few pointers to land with my feet on the ground?

[Anonymous No.20105839]

>>20105819
Abandon the idea that any of your coffee knowledge is going to help you in any way. Caffees aren't about making good coffee, they're about making a lot of coffee. If you're ok with that, sure go for it. But don't expect to be an artiste carefully weighing out your doses and doing wdt on them and adding a puck screen and whatever.

[Anonymous No.20105868]

>>20105819
Most cafes hire high school girls, it is not a skilled job. Your biggest concern is the hiring manager deciding you aren't enough of a loser, that you won't stick around long enough and aren't worth training.

[Anonymous No.20105874]

>>20105819
a barista is a trained monkey
you will be using burnt low quality coffee
you will be using a machine that isnt calibrated correctly
you will be using a grinder that isnt dialed in correctly
you will be making hundreds of cups of bad coffee every day
you will be on your feet standing in front of a hot machine hearing the screeching sound of the steam wand and people yapping all day
you wont get paid well at all, minimum wage, or if you are lucky maybe slightly higher
you will be required to know how to make every stupid drink on the menu
you will be judged for not being fast enough
enjoy :)

[Anonymous No.20105890]

>>20105819
Good luck anon, I've been a barista for 15 years!

[Anonymous No.20105915]

>>20103296
New to coffee and espresso in general. I can get an HiBrew H10A for 150 new. I tried getting a gaggia classic, but there's not many in the used market here, and for some reason the ones I can find are beat to shit. I already have a Kingrinder K6 and this would be my first espresso machine. Should I or am I retarded ?

[Anonymous No.20105934]

>>20103296
Does coffee like my kettle? I just made coffee over my woodstove in the morning because I'm unemployed.

[Anonymous No.20105952]

>>20105934
i like your ketlle
are you the anon that lives in a neetcabin in his parents backyard

[Anonymous No.20105973]

>>20105952
No i own my own house very far from my parents. I got mad at my boss and told him to go fuck himself a few months ago

[Anonymous No.20105990]

why do people itt believe that there are literally 0 (zero) cafes that strive to make good goff?

[Anonymous No.20105994]

>>20105742
>50e on amazon
Cheap

[Anonymous No.20106007]

>>20105990
I've never seen one, and I've looked

[Anonymous No.20106100]

>>20105990
schizos projecting their incapacity to conceive this notion.

[Anonymous No.20106101]

>>20105990
because 99.999% dont.
specialty cafes that serve specialty coffee and have very highly trained baristas are extremely rare
and by that i mean it doesnt matter if there are 5000 on them because there are a million normal cafes that are dogshit

[Anonymous No.20106105]

Is it ok to pull a 30g shot in only 20 seconds? Or should I still be shooting for 25-30 seconds?

[Anonymous No.20106107]

>>20106105
try both, see which one you prefer then do that

[Anonymous No.20106119]

>>20105990
There aren't zero, just near zero. Milk drinks are extremely forgiving so you can fuck up the underlying espresso all you want provided you drown it in enough milk afterwards, and normalfags are conditioned to assume all coffee tastes like ass on it's own anyway.

[Anonymous No.20106150]

>>20106105
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.20106151]

French roast with raspberry banana kefir.
Aquire it or expire it?

[Anonymous No.20106207]

>>20106151
fear not the raspberry banana kefir, my friend
and let the feast begin

[Anonymous No.20107006]

>>20103616
If you're ever looking for a good waisted/tapered 54mm basket for traditional spro I came across this. 7-17g, made by La Spaziale.
https://cafune.ca/collections/aram-soulcraft/products/aram-single-shot-filter-basket

[Anonymous No.20107055]

>>20105990
just went to the highest rated 3rd wave cafe in my city for a spro, tasted like sour garbage juice and i literally own ssp mp as a never-medium guy

[Anonymous No.20107057]

>>20107055
that's 3rd wave for you

[Anonymous No.20107062]

>>20107057
absolutely insane how 3+ women can base their business around mutually agreeing on this quality while selling bags from the barn

[Anonymous No.20107063]

Preheating Tower of success and good fortune.

[Anonymous No.20107067]

>>20107055
Just move to a non shit hole it's not hard bro

[Anonymous No.20107070]

im just getting into roasting, does /goffmemetimegeneral/ have any resources to share?

[Anonymous No.20107071]

>>20107067
true facts. went across town yeserday to a spot with 3 vintage gtrs sitting out front, got the gesha tasting, and there wasn't a single white face in the place. perfect quality cuppa.

[Anonymous No.20107072]

>>20105990
My city has several places around that care about the bean, it's pretty nice.
Everywhere I visit I try to find a similar place like home with good coffee and people serious about doing it right and I don't have much luck.
Then again I also like diner coffee for what it is, but that artisan level is special and commonly takes special effort to find or going at certain hours of the day even.

[Anonymous No.20107079]

>>20107072
>i park my bike in the center of the room because it's clearly not a harley and adds to the total aesthetic of the space, i'm ready to talk about feng shui design standards when you're done swirling your wush-wush sir
not a vibe

[Anonymous No.20107080]

>>20107072
can you drink your goffee on the bike?

[Anonymous No.20107087]

>>20107080
only if you star the second vowel in a*ropress

[Anonymous No.20107094]

>>20107087
can you teach me? i want to sit on that motorcycle with my cuppa

[Anonymous No.20107097]

>>20107057
you are wrong and retarded

[Anonymous No.20107098]

>>20107079
It's a big space, and that area is for the line anyway, something nice to look at if you know your order already.
I like their gibraltar.

[Anonymous No.20107101]

>>20107063
shoulda got the 58

[Anonymous No.20107108]

>>20107097
don't know if you know it's common to be wrong when retarded even retards know that

[Anonymous No.20107119]

>>20107098
How's the Kyoto drip?

[Anonymous No.20107145]

>>20107070
Thats a good machine. Easy to mod. Unfortunately I'm not taking on any apprentices any time soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enEu0NmhkDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VILk7f87LYU

[Anonymous No.20107148]

>>20107145
thanks for the links

[Anonymous No.20107191]

>>20107148
Mine is currently ripped apart (again) for the winter or I'd show you the build, but you can do some wacky stuff with them on the cheap. My current hurdle is figuring out how to get fine control on a
> 120v dc 60 hz .25 Amps with no load
fan motor over low voltage arduino. Not my guide but I've done the exact thing to other poppers before.
https://www.instructables.com/Arduino-controlled-DIY-Coffee-Roaster/
https://artisanaltechnologies.co.uk/

[Anonymous No.20107198]

>>20107063
People really spend hundreds of dollars for this shit instead of just buying a GCP

[Anonymous No.20107204]

>>20107101
Feel like this is actually easier than something that needs plugged in based on where I make the espresso. Outlet is behind the work table and I don't want it scooted away from the wall.

Besides most of my money for this type of stuff goes to tea. I just wanted a one time purchase into basic espresso making. Don't need to be fancy with it.

[Anonymous No.20107210]

>>20107191
im probably just lazy, but i was hoping the popper would be capable of consistent roasts out of the box
ive no experience whatsoever in anything resembling aftermarket modifications, but i suppose everyone has to start somewhere

[Anonymous No.20107224]

>>20107198
he probably doesn't even know the oxo kettle has a 5*C/40*F thermal overshoot from cold

[Anonymous No.20107237]

>>20107198
I'd rather not drink xylan flakes, thanks.

[Anonymous No.20107239]

>>20107224
Tested water temps vs display temps with calibrated Thermoworks thermometers. Water temps were always within 1-3 degrees F of displayed temperature within 5 seconds of the "done" beep.

[Anonymous No.20107243]

>>20107239
notbad.jpg, but that implies pressing and twisting the knob to read device temp at beep gives an incorrect reading?

[Anonymous No.20107248]

>>20107210
Its great out of the box, I ran it entirely stock for a year. But at $80 I'm willing to potentially break and improve shit once I've got my money out of it + I already had the parts sitting around unused. You know how some people are turning gaggias into a "decent lite"? Its not too hard to build something close to a kaffelogic.
https://showroomcoffee.com/product/kaffelogic/

[Anonymous No.20107252]

>>20107243 (me)
i'm running 500ml with the glass non-gooseneck oxo and getting a consistent 5*C overshoot every time twisting at beep, no external thermometer

[Anonymous No.20107256]

>>20107243
Not sure I understand what you're saying. I tested the kettle for a range of temps from 120 F through to boiling by setting the target temperature, pressing the button to heat, then removing the lid and probing the water once it beeped to indicate it reached the desired temperature and has gone into temp hold mode.

[Anonymous No.20107260]

Why do Americans drink watery coffee? It's disgusting. There's nowhere you can get good coffee here.

[Anonymous No.20107272]

>>20107256
when it beeps, in my kitchen anyway, the set displayed temperature stops climbing while the actual water temp continues to increase. it threw off all my recipes until i figured out that you could see actual realtime temp when above the displayed set temp by trying to set a new temp and scrolling around. the oxo interface won't scroll below actual realtime temp.

[Anonymous No.20107289]

>>20107272
Ahhhh I gotcha. Let me see what happens on mine.

[Anonymous No.20107308]

this shit good or is it a meme?

[Anonymous No.20107322]

>>20107272
Set temp 185F. Twisty twisted for a while and highest it would read was 186F.

[Anonymous No.20107332]

>>20107322
>hand tats
lmao it's an actual barista

[Anonymous No.20107337]

>>20107332
Baker, but I always figured if I got tired of bread I'd see if I could transfer into the barista area at my work.

[Anonymous No.20107342]

>>20107308
Everything from that source is going to be a meme, but you might at least get a funny t-shirt out of the deal.

[Anonymous No.20107387]

>>20107322
finally figured out how to post a webm, 3*C overshoot was mid

[Anonymous No.20107396]

Outdoor covfefe today. Does anyone else live in a place with fucked up tap water? We get warnings here for it, even before that there were minerals (iron) in it turning my kitchen stuff orange. I switched to bottled a while ago but it's fucking annoying.
>>20105973
Awesome, what'd he do? Also I love your pics post more comfy
>>20105990
I love the cafe a couple of streets away from me. They're actually how I found the beans I buy at home. Really nice people and I can sit outside at a table right next to my car.

[Anonymous No.20107413]

>>20107387
Huh, weird. That's brutal though. Don't go trying to brew up gyokuro anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.20107445]

>>20107413
i've got it under control, just takes a little finesse like slow feeding the ode whilst holding the catch cup and touching the body for static. still better than stagg/corvo, better than chinashit, better than breville, but not as chiseled as smeg.

[Anonymous No.20107462]

>>20107308
The real wealthy athletes drink this.
https://www.bigfacebrand.com/
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29674158/jimmy-butler-charging-20-cup-nba-bubble-coffee-shop

[Anonymous No.20107494]

>>20107462
Lavazza sponsors Juventus and Arsenal
Beckham is sponsored by Nespresso
Federer is brand ambassador for Jura
It's a rubber stamp

[Anonymous No.20107511]

>>20107494
Its his company. Guy likes coffee, has money, starts brand.
https://dailycoffeenews.com/2021/08/11/jimmy-butlers-big-face-coffee-buys-top-lot-at-el-salvador-cup-of-excellence/

[Anonymous No.20107620]

>>20105915

Seems like a nice machine at first glance but set to 19 bar brew pressure which is way too high. Even with the Gaggia Classic people recommend changing the Over pressure valve spring so the pressure is at 9 bar. I'd say if the reviews for it are decent ,150 isn't a bad price at all. I have a Gaggia Classic and it's a good machine but it definitely needs a PID and a few other mods to unlock it's full potential.

[Anonymous No.20107639]

Best biscuits to go with coffee other than speculoos?

[Anonymous No.20107650]

>>20107462
>the people who really know espresso?
>Basketball-Americans.

[Anonymous No.20107683]

>>20107639
Speculaas.

[Anonymous No.20107718]

>>20107683
>other than speculoos
>speculaas
nice mug & coaster btw

[Anonymous No.20107839]

>>20107718
They're two different things and speculaas is vastly superior choggy anon, try it. The de ruiters ones are great. Also thank :>

[Anonymous No.20107857]

Is rapid cold brew worth it? I like cold coffee but often don’t have the counter space or refrigerator room for long good brews. I’ve heard of what’s basically a chemical stirring machine, magnet based blending, cold brewing machines that make cold brew coffee in 15-20 minutes. Worth it?
Ethiopian coffee cold brewed is amazing, not a trace of bitterness.

[Anonymous No.20107869]

>>20107857
>Ethiopian coffee cold brewed is amazing, not a trace of bitterness.
seems like it would be pretty sour.
innately sour coffee + under-extraction

[Anonymous No.20107877]

>>20107869
Never noticed a sourness.

[Anonymous No.20107884]

>>20107839
More like specul-ass retard
Speculoos where it's at.

[Anonymous No.20108004]

>>20107884
Speculoos is the basic bitch version but you won't see me insulting you

[Anonymous No.20108187]

>>20107839
>two different things
huh, tonight i'll go to bed less tarded. not sure i'll find the de ruiters but i'll add speculaas to my shopping list

>>20108004
that >20107884 is not me btw i was watching an episode of ZeroZeroZero, not bad while we're on the subject. i don't obsess about vulgarities surrounding the reproduction organs.

[Anonymous No.20108288]

>>20107869
Do you associate that signature mouth sensation Ethiopian has with sourness? kind of like it makes the middle of your mouth salivate.
That's not sourness m8 that's just a characteristic of that type of coffee.
You can brew it at a lower temp if you're worried about it.

[Anonymous No.20108300]

>>20107119
It's really nice and smooth, I had it at a couple places, the local spot second and this shop by across from Japantown in LA for my first.
It has a very uniform cleanness. The coffee is the most not like coffee on the opposite spectrum to Turkish if that makes sense.
If you enjoy tannins in your java it will be an interesting experience not having them there at all.
I should have it again soon.

[Anonymous No.20108338]

>>20107857
Just flash brew, nice results less time, less acidic and generally more extraction of flavor.

[Anonymous No.20108484]

>>20108300
I do enjoy tannins in my cuppa but i also like experimenting, my curiosity is pique . It's interesting how much the brew method impacts the final taste. And those towers look really neat. If i ever see them in a coffee shop i know what to order.

[Anonymous No.20108575]

why aren't there more low caffeine blends, not decaf, just low caffeine

[Anonymous No.20108635]

>>20108187
Don't worry, I didn't think it was you! Goodnight choggy anon

[Anonymous No.20108680]

>>20108575
>blends
why would you get a flow caffeine bean and then put it in a blend?
>>20107639
uhh your Pfeffernüsse anon?

[Anonymous No.20108703]

Late night honduran Mojo. Following the quanguide so I busted out the kinu+origami+cafec whites. Long bloom, low agitation, lower ratio, low temp, blendy burrs. Definitely smells better than how I was brewing it before. Still a darker roast than I like but I am getting some sweet berries and tart citrus. I might have to mix up some other water to try in the morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGaL1w5487Y

[Anonymous No.20108824]

>>20103296
My bfs mum gifted us a dolce gusto for christmas and while I was surprised by the taste of the cappucino pods, I really don't like having to pay 6eur for 6 pods.

I saw that one can buy reusable pods, but have heard mixed opinions on it. For me the main thing is the instant foamed milk, if I can buy that as a powder and put it in a reusable pod, that would make it much better already.

Also, I was just about thinking buying a portafilter machine when she gifted us this, but I couldn't refuse because for her, it was a lot of money since she is from hungary

[Anonymous No.20108950]

malwani in the latest quan kino
https://youtu.be/kYr9_mdi4lg?feature=shared&t=113
and the rest of the video is good too

[Anonymous No.20109315]

I want iced coffee. I was thinking about making a pour-over with 250g of water, then sticking it in the fridge for 4 hours. Is there a better way?

[Anonymous No.20109333]

>>20109315
enjoy some classic hoffmann kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PApBycDrPo0

[Anonymous No.20109335]

>>20109315
Flash brew/iced filter. Brew "stronger", use ~40% of your water as ice in the carafe instead to get the right strength, then a bit more ice to chill.
https://youtu.be/PApBycDrPo0
https://youtu.be/7mLec0fI6aY

[Anonymous No.20109348]

>>20109315
Freeze 40% of your brew water and put the ice in the vessel you're brewing into, then use the remaing 60% of your brew water to make a concentrate using the usual amount of coffee. The hot coffee concentrate should immediately melt the ice and dilute the drink back down to a normal strength. Then you just serve in a chilled glass with ice (maybe use slightly more coffee if you're worried about the ice in the serving glass diluting the drink further). Works with pretty much any brew method.

[Anonymous No.20109370]

>>20108950
That Automatica is sweet. It deserves to be in a shop.

[Anonymous No.20109391]

>>20109370
i think it would be cool to see a recreated automatica with modern materials and like high tech shit, but making it look and feel as faithful as possible to the original
unfortunately the company still exists and holds the patent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGfQ3jbcs3g

[Anonymous No.20109395]

>>20109391
>>20109370
oh and i found his home barista post, pretty in depth if you are interested in a breakdown.
https://www.home-barista.com/repairs/1958-la-cimbali-gran-luce-automatica-hydraulic-t89126.html

[Anonymous No.20109409]

>>20107462
Jimmy butler started his side hustle in the bubble.

[Anonymous No.20109546]

>>20109391
The beauty of valve and lever machines is simplicity. Give people a workflow that is intuitive.

[Anonymous No.20109555]

>>20109546
i didnt say more complex
the operation would be the same.
just make it with modern shit
like in brians video he shows other models from italy that just corrode and fall apart

[Anonymous No.20109655]

I went home to the US for the holidays and brought back a gifted Stagg EKG to a 240v country, assuming step-down transformers wouldn't be 1) expensive and/or 2) bulky,
but lo and behold they are both expensive and bulky.
I guess they make for pretty sculptures.

[Anonymous No.20109661]

>>20109655
yeh i was going to buy a us only machine but after looking into the transformers and shit i just gave up

[Anonymous No.20109673]

>>20109655
Wire it to one of your 240 outlets. There's probably a stove plug around.

[Anonymous No.20109681]

>>20109673
oh yeh
way easier
fucking retard

[Anonymous No.20109693]

>>20109681
At least I have the brain cells to buy a plug or adapter at the hardware store.

[Anonymous No.20109730]

>>20109315
get a hario cold brew pot.

[Anonymous No.20109732]

wa la

[Anonymous No.20109760]

>>20109693
>plug or adapter
you dont even understand the conversation you have entered
fucking retard

[Anonymous No.20109767]

>>20109760
There's 240vac in US kitchens. Go drink gas station coffee brainlet.

[Anonymous No.20109774]

>>20109732

[Anonymous No.20109781]

Day 4 and still no email from flair. I fear they have abandoned me.

[Anonymous No.20109879]

>>20109767
so?
im sure there are 120v kitchens in 240v countries too
what's your point?
if a machine needs 120 instead of 240 and it needs a certain wattage you cant just use an adapter you need a step down transformer with the correct watts
which depending on the machine you are trying to use could cost hundreds of dollars and is an ugly bulky thing you have to have on the kitchen bench alongside the machine you are using.

dont talk if you dont know shit you actual monkey brained retard
fucking kill yourself

[Anonymous No.20109885]

>>20103296
Anon,
Do you think bones live outside of the shoulder?
What do you think is in YOUR shoulder? Not bones?

[Anonymous No.20110019]

>>20109879
First you need to determine if you're in the US or Europe because you seem to be confused.

A step down transformer "STEPS DOWN" from a higher voltage to a lower one. A step-up transformer steps up, they're the same thing just flip the coils. You have to use a bulky one because you're powering a device that is simply pissing electricity away directly into heat. If your appliance is 1000w the transformer must be 1000VA.

Europe primarily uses 240vac @50hz. US uses 120vac at 60hz mainly but the panel has 2 power rails so 240vac can be used for you furnace, AC, maybe washer, and your stove. Moving up to the longer duty cycle of 50 hz can cause some problems to devices as current flows in each direction for longer cycles. The higher frequency will not harm a fucking heating element.

The appliance is the load. Therefor it determines the wattage it draws. There are 10 amp minimum breakers in your panel. 10x120 is 1200watts. Does your kettle pull 20% more juice than a microwave? I don't even have to look it up to tell you no.

I can put a new 240 outlet in faster than trying to explain to you how the magic negative sparks run your gadgets.

[Anonymous No.20110131]

>>20109879
Wow you got absolutely assploded lmao

[Anonymous No.20110232]

>>20109781
>Day 4
>Tuesday after a 3 day weekend
Check your email again

[Anonymous No.20110245]

Haven't made espresso since I last managed a cafe two years ago. My uncle got one of these and I showed him how to do volumetrics. Was quite surprised with the shots. Wife doesn't mind getting an espresso machine for the house, but €1,000 on a profitec go is a bit much, and she won't be able to use it. Pic related came up for sale in my town, got it for €500, i will never use the bean to cup function, but she thinks it's a great idea. They retail for the same price as said profitec.
Only had it a few days. Decent shots, steam wand is a bit on the weedy side, but the jug delonghi provide makes up for it. I'll just decant my milk into my own jug.
Only issue so far is actually my kitchen. It isn't insulated, so it's really cold. The shots I get grinding from my c40 vary depending on how many shots I've pulled, eventually stabilising when the whole machine has warmed up.
Oh, and as soon as I brought it home the wife said she won't use the bean to cup function, even though that is the explicit reason I got it, so she can use it.

[Anonymous No.20110260]

>>20110245
>as soon as I brought it home the wife said she won't use the bean to cup function, even though that is the explicit reason I got it, so she can use it.

[Anonymous No.20110266]

>>20104276
Timemore C2 has a capacity of more than 30g. ~32 I believe.

[Anonymous No.20110270]

>>20110245
Yuck $500 euro for Delonghi pressurized basket 16 bar fakespresso garbage. You got fleeced

[Anonymous No.20110313]

>>20110245
>Delonghi
Is that the specialista maestro?

[Anonymous No.20110323]

>>20110245
I hate women so much bros.

[Anonymous No.20110370]

>>20110266
I'll update it thanks. I lifted the initial table off some aus site and started adding grinders/notes to it. His error, my fuckup for trusting an aussie about coffee.

[Anonymous No.20110560]

>>20110270
Regular basket. Tapers in towards the bottom, so I'll be replacing it asap. I'll grab a bottomless portafilter whilst I'm at it
>>20110313
It is. The extra 500 goes on a milk further, and system that "prepares" your drink. Honestly not worth it if buying new, but you do get more temperature control. Five settings ranging from 95, to 85 celcius. Tested it out with my thermometer. Pretty consistent. I don't have reasonable access to the opv, so I'll take whatever temp control is on offer.

[Anonymous No.20110667]

They shipped it in one day! First time making Arabica myself. Double shot long black and holy fuck it's drinkable and smooth, it's not crazy bitter. This is awesome thank you /ctg/ for your autism getting me to try Arabica. /blog

[Anonymous No.20110836]

>>20110266
I've got a C3 Pro and it only fits about 20g. I believe the regular C2 has the same capacity, although there is a MAX version of both grinders that have a larger capacity (around 30g).

[Anonymous No.20110846]

>>20110667
:! Glad you like it friendo

[Anonymous No.20110974]

I've spent a LOT of money on coffee over the past year... I don't think my cope about homemade espresso/coffee being cheaper than Starbucks is accurate

[Anonymous No.20111052]

>>20110974
Starbucks are able to buy everything in bulk straight from the wholesaler. Even when you factor in their labor costs and profit margins on each drink, it will still work out cheaper to just buy their coffee daily until you reach like 5 years worth of using your equipment. And that assumes that your equipment doesn't break or that you don't decide to spend even more money during those 5 years. The only reason you should start making home espresso is if you want a different taste, because doing it for the money is a meme.

[Anonymous No.20111057]

>>20103296
I have yet to find a method that is better than the clover machine. who has $6k though. do you have anything you recommend that can brew as well?

[Anonymous No.20111076]

>>20111052
why would you use starbucks operating expense as a point of comparison? that makes no sense. if the dude is "trying to save money" then obviously you should be using the average consumer's cost of a trip to starbucks instead. personally I spend $10 every trip ($6 for a drink and $4 for a cookie or whatever). If you only counted work days that's $2600 a year. I drink at least a latte a day. Cost of making it at home is roughly $0.80 in beans and milk. Add in a costco croissant or rice krispy square something and that's $2 a day or $500 a year. With the $2100 you save over just one year you can buy a quality HX machine and a $800+ grinder, and both will last you 10-20 years and retain a good portion of their resale value if properly maintained.

[Anonymous No.20111090]

coffee makes me angry and retarded, even half a teaspoon full in my hot cocoa is enough to trigger that effect

[Anonymous No.20111091]

>>20110974
It only is because you wouldnt be going to Starbucks six times a day

[Anonymous No.20111113]

>>20111076
Including the price of a brownie is stupid because you're not making the brownie at home. You also need to factor in energy costs to power the grinder and espresso machine, as well as wastage sinve you're going to have to dial in the beans.

[Anonymous No.20111125]

>>20111113
>Wastage
Unless you're a true snob or an anal retentive retardo you will not have undrinkable coffee from dialing in your beans
>hmmm this is a little gritty nice
>hm this is a little sour nice
>ahh this is just right.
3 good coffees. Most of the world gets by on Folgerstier pre-ground

[Anonymous No.20111131]

>>20111113
Retard, i'm stating the cost of my replacement breakfast coffee 1:1. I don't materialize brownies or rice krispy squares out of thin air. Arguably I could make them a heck of a lot cheaper than $1.2 a serving but I was generous in that quote for flexibility. Power cost of operating a simple plug-in appliance for 30 minutes is negligible. Like literally negligible. Realistically like $0.30 for the whole year. Same for the "waste" (waste water) cost. It's literally NOTHING compared to the cost of milk and beans and pastry. Again, one year of not going to starbucks buys you a HX machine and high end grinder. This is mathetmatical fact. You can easily justify splurging for a la marzocco micra as that would only require 3 years of sacrificing your daily starbucks fix. No way in hell is making espresso at home never not cheaper in the long run.

[Anonymous No.20111166]

>>20111057

[Anonymous No.20111594]

>>20110019
>retard spacing
kill yourself
>>20110131
i accept your concession :)

[Anonymous No.20111602]

>>20110667
i have the same wallpaper wollongong anon:)!
well not right now
but i have the same collection on my pc and i used it for years, i have a different wallpaper now.

[Anonymous No.20111608]

>>20110974
depends
how much did you spend?
also its cheaper in terms of beans used
like for me if i make it at home i save $1500 a year not buying coffee out.

[Anonymous No.20111612]

>>20111090
then dont do that
retard

[Anonymous No.20112299]

Really impressed by how fine you can go on the zp6. Really neat grinder

[Anonymous No.20112437]

>>20112299
have you tried espresso with it?

[Anonymous No.20112472]

>>20112437
I don't do espresso, but from what I've seen it shouldn't work

[Anonymous No.20112629]

>>20112472
what?

[Anonymous No.20113006]

Anything interesting you can do with used coffee grounds?

[Anonymous No.20113164]

>>20113006
add to compost for fertilizer

[Anonymous No.20113364]

Dry process needs to be blended with washed to be drinkable. End of.

[Anonymous No.20113372]

New hoff is out

[Anonymous No.20113395]

>>20113372
>hoffmeme
@ me when he finally does a video on decaf

[Anonymous No.20113400]

>>20113395
Good news then

[Anonymous No.20113456]

>I lived to see the hoffmann decaff video
My life is fulfilled

[Anonymous No.20113466]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYTSdlOdkn0
IT'S HAPPENING!

[Anonymous No.20113488]

fug i didn't realize 01 drippers were so small...

[Anonymous No.20113495]

>>20113488

[Anonymous No.20113506]

opinions on an aero press?

[Anonymous No.20113528]

>decaf drinker, to me, is the top tier coffee drinker
>the purest of all coffee drinkers
>because they're just drinking it for the taste
sistas, what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.20113532]

>>20113506
its not called aeropiss for nothing sis

[Anonymous No.20113536]

>>20113532
that bad?

[Anonymous No.20113553]

>>20113466
ok i just finished the video
and cleaned up the mess i made
great video
probably his best in a while(other than the in depth RDT video a month ago)

[Anonymous No.20113560]

>>20113506
it makes good coffee but also turns you into a girl

[Anonymous No.20113578]

>>20112472
thats what ive heard, and why i was curious
"you CANNOT do espresso with the special"
seems ridiculous, frankly

[Anonymous No.20113583]

>>20113364
good nachy is fucking great, you just got some shit, brother

[Anonymous No.20113590]

are there any downsides to steel/insulated french presses? do they keep coffee warm for a couple hours?

[Anonymous No.20113642]

>>20113578
No idea, can't help you friend

[Anonymous No.20113652]

>>20113590
>downsides
cant see the koohee
>couple hours
not quite, and if you dont decant it, itll just keep brewing and get maybe a lil nasty
>>20113642
well do let the class know if you ever get a moka pot or smth

[Anonymous No.20113663]

>>20113652
Shit, what about thermal carafes? How many proper cups can I make at a time with a Kalite 185? I want to be able to make 2-3 proper cups on weekends but I don't want a drip machine

[Anonymous No.20113671]

>>20113506
Pound for pound it's arguably the best coffee brewer on the market. Relatively inexpensive, easy to use, easy to clean up, only needs a couple of minutes to brew, super portable, lets you customise a lot of brew variables if you want, doesn't require a special kettle or other fancy equipment (other than a way to boil water and a way to grind coffee), doesn't require super autistic technique, almost impossible to fuck up even if you don't exactly stick to the technique/recipe, works with paper filters (for a cleaner cup) or metal filters (for more body), can make both a normal filter coffee as well as a more concentrated coffee for use in a faux cappuccino-style drink with some foamed milk.

The only real downside is that it has a pretty limited capacity. Works well enough as a single cup brewer, or you can bypass brew and dilute a more concentrated coffee with hot water (or ice) to get two cups. But any more than two cups and you'll struggle, although you could argue it doesn't take long to brew with the Aeropress anyway so you could just use it repeatedly back-to-back. There is a larger Aeropress available but it's a lot more expensive.

Some people are worried about brewing in plastic, but to be quite honest the caffiene in your coffee is probably more detrimental to your health than any potential trace of microplastics.

[Anonymous No.20113680]

>>20113590
Well since the coffee is still immersed and at a high temp, it's just going to keep extracting until it becomes overextracted. You don't wanna leave it in there really. You'd be better off brewing in a french press and then pouring it out into a thermos

[Anonymous No.20113684]

My espresso has been really bitter the last two days. I've had to cover them up under a good deal of steamed milk.
Tomorrow I will try again, if I fail I'm going to go with retard-proof french press for a week

[Anonymous No.20113685]

>>20113663
>what about thermal carafes
what about them? i like contigo if want a brand rec
>How many proper cups can I make at a time with a Kalite 185
couldnt tell you but reddit says 800ml of coffee for 50g of grinds
>>20113671
>the caffiene in your coffee is probably more detrimental to your health than any potential trace of microplastics.
i rather doubt that

[Anonymous No.20113698]

>>20113578
>"you CANNOT do espresso with the special"
>seems ridiculous, frankly
zp6 was designed with a large "outfall" for filter. No matter how fine you grind, there will always be big gaps for large particles to fall through. Tightening up those gaps would let the beans go through more breaks, creating a higher proportion of fines to create pressure in espresso. Yeah you can rip short extraction time turbos with zp6, but you're not going to be able to hold 9bar for 30seconds without a high resistance/pressurized basket. Wrong particle spread for that. Heres a side view of 98LU and HU to so you can see what an "outfall" is.

[Anonymous No.20113711]

>>20111602
They're my summer wallpapers very comfy. Excellent taste anon.

[Anonymous No.20113734]

>>20113698
thanks for the detailed reply, that explains a lot
thats kinda what i figured, that it just would be kinda shitty

[Anonymous No.20113742]

>>20113590
Immersion brewers are generally more forgiving when it comes to overextraction and it tends to drastically slow down once you reach optimal extraction (assuming you got the ratios right), so coffee that has been left in a French press for a while will still be relatively drinkable. Although if you're constantly pouring from the same FP it will kick up a bunch of grit from the bottom which ends up in your cup. So you might as well brew once in a large FP, then transfer it all into a large thermos or insulated carafe.

[Anonymous No.20114152]

Is this normal?

[Anonymous No.20114198]

>>20114152
what?

[Anonymous No.20114245]

Fuck it, bought the last p0 amazon had for a pepper mill. Tired of waiting on the unicorn magnum to restock and it uses the same shitty burr style, but chinese.
>>20114152
Coffee being red? Yeah.

[Anonymous No.20114362]

>>20110370
Sorry, I was wrong. Used it this morning. It fit 25 grams of Guatemala beans.

>>20110836
We both weren't right.

[Anonymous No.20114589]

>>20114245
>pepper mill
you want the cole & mason derwent anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbKxVw924Fo

[Anonymous No.20114604]

I bought an espresso machine and I discovered that I can’t drink double shots (15-16 grams) because they give me massive anxiety. :’(
I need to buy decaf…

[Anonymous No.20114612]

>>20114152
>Is this normal?
your thumb? No. no its not

[Anonymous No.20114622]

>>20114604
so just buy a single shot basket?

[Anonymous No.20114638]

>>20114622
Flair 2 pro, the lowest dose I can make is 15 grams apparently even though I read people making singles (but how??).
I love this machine but what the fuck bros, 160 mg of caffeine from 100% arabica beans is this much of an issue? :(

I will also buy the double spout so I can split the shot into two, it’s not optimal but it is what it is, one day when I’ll be less anxious I will try again.

[Anonymous No.20114648]

>>20114604
10% experience anxiety with latest coof variant. try again in a week

[Anonymous No.20114659]

looking to decouple my kettle and hot water, any recommendation

[Anonymous No.20114695]

>>20114152
you need to drink more water

[Anonymous No.20114722]

>>20114604
LOL. Kill yourself and stop emailing us.
>Flair international support

[Anonymous No.20114723]

Anybody have experience with pic related?

I've been making "aeropresso" with the Aeropress and been thinking if I had the money someday I would get a Robot. The Flair seems good too, but if I'm spending that kind of money I might as well get the Robot. The Aeropress is serving me so well, though... But I'm also worried about microplastic.

[Anonymous No.20114725]

>>20114723
Forgot Pic

[Anonymous No.20114980]

>>20114589
Uh no. The P stands for pepper.

[Anonymous No.20115142]

>>20114980
P for poverty

[Anonymous No.20115173]

>>20115142
Needed something cheaper than the wug and kinu.

[Anonymous No.20115280]

>>20114659
https://www.avvo.com/divorce-separation-lawyer.html

[Anonymous No.20115285]

>local smegmaroaster does a "complex" kenyan with cranberry on the bag
>he says "lol it's red fruit xD" when i ask him how to turn down the 'mato
>my face when it's either this or a natural anaerobic for the next week

[Anonymous No.20115374]

fixed the 'matopress per roaster advice, slow feeding ssp mp burrs caused ultra buttsex flavor syndrome and it needed normal feed a click finer

[Anonymous No.20115598]

>>20115285
>>20115374
>Buys acid forward burrs
>yuckie acid
Should have gotten labsweets breh

[Anonymous No.20115631]

>>20115598
yummy acid but unimodalmaxxing with the luna recipe dialed in for berries was nightshade nightmare mode. there's a box on my counter with chode (gen 2) burrs which are bury nice but clearly made for european great-aunts and vintage roast boymoders, only paid 3hunnid for the chode and 3 burrsets so the next buy is going to be car money when the red speeds wear out in over 9000lbs kek

[Anonymous No.20115785]

>>20115631
what the fuck am i reading

[Anonymous No.20115797]

>>20105874
this, cafes are pretty bog standard because everyone drowns it in milk and caramel and chocolate syrup so youll be made to put volume not quality

[Anonymous No.20115800]

>>20115631
What language is this

[Anonymous No.20115807]

>>20115800
>>20115785
niggertism

[Anonymous No.20115862]

>>20103296
<3 me some Yemen coffee beans

[Anonymous No.20115874]

>baristas start getting super autistic about coffee to the point where they create algorithms to make perfectly consistent coffee based on certain variables
>companies start creating automatic machines that utilise said algorithms and produce consistent cups
>"NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST REPLACE US WITH MACHINES, YOU'RE REMOVING THE SOUL FROM COFFEE!!"
Baristas have made their own bed, now they can sleep in it.

[Anonymous No.20115888]

>>20115874
>learn to code
>"""ai""" does the job of 10 coders
ironic.

[Anonymous No.20115916]

Eggs and goff

[Anonymous No.20115928]

>>20115916
untoasted bread?
way undercooked eggs
borderline raw bacon?
dirty keyboard.
no knife
no spork
cringe, 0/10

[Anonymous No.20115932]

>>20115928
:(

[Anonymous No.20115940]

>>20115932
sorry egganon

[Anonymous No.20115942]

>>20115916
comfy brekky goffee

[Anonymous No.20115950]

>>20115631
don't ever do that again

[Anonymous No.20116046]

>>20115916
The tannins and polyphenols in coffee will affect the absorption of iron and calcium from the eggs. Plus the fats from the eggs affects the flavour of the coffee. So you shouldn't mix the two together.

[Anonymous No.20116080]

12:30 AM Coffee
Anoxic Natural
Red Bourbon
Rwanda
Filter Roast
buttered artichoke heart dipped in balsamic vinegar
vaguely alcoholic
sun dried cherry
good to be back to light roasted, natural processed, fermented coffee after my vacation with medium dark sumatra.

[Anonymous No.20116105]

What's the absolute least amount I can spend to get a decent temp controlled kettle? I'm willing to up the minimum, but I don't want to spend more than $100 USD.

[Anonymous No.20116110]

>>20116105
Brewista Artisan Gooseneck Variable Kettle
its about $150usd from what i can see.
its great, and its cheap
they get much more expensive
otherwise you are looking at chinesium and kettles you have to put on the stove top to heat.

[Anonymous No.20116118]

I'll see your cup warming strategy, and raise a glass of milk

[Anonymous No.20116125]

>>20116105
Aiheal Electric Gooseneck Kettle. might be chinese shit but I picked one up recently for pour-overs. pretty good so far, can't complain for it being 58 bucks

[Anonymous No.20116127]

>>20116118
>that amount of milk
>for that little coffee
how italian of you anon
i hope your beans are extra oily today

[Anonymous No.20116165]

>>20116105
The cheapest option is to get a regular kettle and an infrared thermometer.

[Anonymous No.20116201]

at some point within the last year or 2 aeropress made some changes to their papers that fucked up my "drip" brews. i always thought the issue was my grinder but out of curiosity i pulled a filter from the bottom of the stack today (old/packaged with aeropress) and voila! back to drip!

thanks for reading.

[Anonymous No.20116226]

>>20116125
>Picked one up recently
Last thread it was 6 years ago?

[Anonymous No.20116390]

Got my kingrinder p2 this morning after a recommendation by another Anon. AMA. This is a new era IMO, it does things much better than my K6 albeit slower

[Anonymous No.20116413]

>>20116390
What does it do better? Is switching from outer adjustment to inner adjustment a pain? How's the build quality?

[Anonymous No.20116752]

>>20109781
>day 650
>still obsessed with the same anon
>still annoyed to the point that to kill his time he needs to impersonate other people
>still the same ad personam tactics
>still the same memes

Anon, nobody but you hates me here. Someone probably doesn’t like me but not to the point of not letting me post and besides I already got an answer from a kind anon who helped me, I just need the final word for Flair because you never know in the clown world how QC works.

Get over it, you won’t break me.

Back in the tunnels you go, rat bastard.

[Anonymous No.20116834]

and you say that they're steamed despite the fact that they're obviously frothed

[Anonymous No.20116838]

I've sent an email to [e-mail] to see if they can get people to stop making fun of me. I'll keep you guys updated.

[Anonymous No.20116848]

coffee is poop wine

[Anonymous No.20116875]

>>20105669
Flair anon too here.

1.5.0 on my JX Pro is kinda the sweet spot so far, but with my new Brazilian specialty 1.5.2 extracted in 50+ seconds @ 8 bar.
My shots are acidic but not undrinkable, the flow is regular, tamping is not perfect but I think that I’m not preparing hot enough. Fuck me for not buying the thermal strip, next time I’ll order the spare baskets I’ll fetch one as well as the double spout (is there a metallic spout somewhere? I don’t want the plastic one).

[Anonymous No.20116890]

>>20116413
It does pour over better with less fines, the k6 does espresso better. The K6 grind settings are way easier to change but I think I prefer the inside since I can visibly see how many clicks I've turned and barely change grind settings, but I think that's just me.

Build quality is top, I could barely tell its plastic from a first look and feel, it's much lighter and easier to handle because of this. The one thing it does worse with is static but rdt and a shake after grinding does the job.

[Anonymous No.20116926]

>>20116890
So my p0 peppermill should be based?

[Anonymous No.20117019]

>>20114723
>>20114725
Do you want to do this to your poor innocent goffee?

[Anonymous No.20117029]

>>20117019
no one forced this maniac to keep pushing after the first time

[Anonymous No.20117032]

>>20114723
>but if I'm spending that kind of money I might as well get the Robot.
you're saying this as if the robot is an upgrade, it isn't. flair 58 is a much higher quality product

[Anonymous No.20117036]

>>20117029
It was a cute young little cafebrat, his hands moved on their own

[Anonymous No.20117068]

Flair, Robot, weird stupid gadgets, V60…it’s all a huge cope fuelled by consumers to avoid admitting that 99.99% of you wouldn’t be in need of anything more than a simple moka pot.

[Anonymous No.20117089]

>>20117068
For me its the moka.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbhYNipVYSY

[Anonymous No.20117106]

>>20117089
I would fuck the tattoos away from her body

[Anonymous No.20117135]

>>20116390
>>20116890
Doesn't the p2 have the exact same burr geometry as the k6, just 10mm smaller? How can either one be better or worse than the other in terms of grind quality?

[Anonymous No.20117157]

>>20117089
>make espresso or moka like an italian
do not under any circumstances do this, they're terrible at it

[Anonymous No.20117189]

>>20117157
Cream of the italian crop.

[Anonymous No.20117211]

>>20117068
v60 is simpler than a moka pot

[Anonymous No.20117314]

>>20113680
>You'd be better off brewing in a french press and then pouring it out into a thermos

Actually, I've been wondering this for a while: when I make a standard, dialed in v60 at home with my usual set up, it's all good. But when I make that same coffee the same way and pour it into my thermos, it tastes burnt and like ass by 2/3 hrs into the day, long before I finish it. Is the coffee still brewing from fines or trace amounts of grounds? Is it simply degrading from being hot for too long? I had to switch to the hoffman pour over cold brew as my daily thermos drink because it doesn't degrade nearly the same way, if it all, but I would like to have it hot sometimes.

Any advice?

[Anonymous No.20117344]

how do you guys afford specialty coffee, that shit is 6 times more expensive than the better supermarket slop. do you guys drink it daily or do you have cheaper slop for daily coffee and drink the good stuff every now and then?

[Anonymous No.20117430]

>>20117314
clean your thermos
>>20117344
get into roasting

[Anonymous No.20117436]

>>20117089
shes doing literally everything opposite of the hoffman method lol. Us italians are retards and prefer tradition over the correct way so ignore her and do what the lesbian looking brit does

[Anonymous No.20117452]

>>20117344
I have a bag a month, usually 1 cup of speciality every 2 or 3 days and then supermarket of varying quality for the other days. Married to an argentine so we drink mate and turkish tea often enough too. Both jobless atm and its working well within the budget. Once we're both working we'll be earning about 20x min wage here so it'll be constant fun coffee.

[Anonymous No.20117474]

>>20117436
>Fellow™ (((Italians)))

Ok rabbi, trust the SCIENCE and discard tradition.

Do not trust good looking people who built civilization and the Roman Empire, nope, just trust this British subhuman who's literally paid to advertise and sell you our products. GOOD GOY

[Anonymous No.20117484]

>>20117474
I love the country i live in, but italians are dumb af, come here and learn the language and you'll see. You can enjoy some shitty espresso made by arabs and teenagers while you're here

[Anonymous No.20117491]

>>20117484
Ti prendo a bastonate sui denti, figlio di puttana.

[Anonymous No.20117524]

>>20117474
Modern Italians have about as much to do with the Roman Empire as modern Egyptians do with the Ancient Egyptians. They are completely different culturally and genetically, they just happen to occupy the same land.

[Anonymous No.20117564]

>>20117524
Ok moshe, it also coincidentally happens that modern Egyptians live in sand shitholes with Muslims producing nothing of value while Italians have the best country in the world (next to Japan) and still produce all the shit you drool over, like top tier espresso machines worth more than your life.

Uh also Italy is included in the list of the kalergi plan countries, someone is still seething about Hadrian to the point that they actually see us as descendants of the Roman Empire.

Stay mad and prepare for another round of final solution, this time it will be on global scale.

[Anonymous No.20117628]

>>20117474
>British subhuman who's literally paid to advertise and sell you our products
You understand he's making $20k a month on patreon right? You don't need to shill products when you've got a budget to buy whatever the fuck you want.

[Anonymous No.20117678]

>>20117089
my god her moka pot is absolutely vile

[Anonymous No.20117711]

>>20117628
I’m sure he talks about Nespresso capsules just to be informative because he cares for his fan base, coincidentally he’s also an environmentalist and he always reminds us to be kind to the planet but for some strange and very specific reason he’s not bothered that Nespresso capsules are made in non recyclable aluminium capsules that also require a lot of wasted energy (thus causing pollution from the factories) when there are 100% eco friendly solutions such as ESE pods if you want something similar.

I’m not saying that all these influencers need to hang, but at the same time all of them need to hang.

[Anonymous No.20117723]

>>20117711
Hoffman has his problems, but he is actually one of the few based people when it comes to the environment because he openly acknowledges that the individual consumer wastage is ultimately irrelevant compared to the wastage produced by large corporations. Even if everyone in the world stopped using Nespresso capsules, it will make absolutely zero meaningful impact on the world's current pollution problems.

[Anonymous No.20117726]

>>20117564
If we had another round of final solutions, Italians would be the first to go since they're brown manlets.

[Anonymous No.20117729]

>>20117723
And yet he talked about Nespresso several times because he wanted to appease to his audience. It’s sad because all these “based” people ultimately put their own interest at the first place and end up being corrupted.

Sorry James, you need to hang.

[Anonymous No.20117731]

>>20117726
Sorry rabbi, not happening!

We are actually conquering the world while all the other cultures and ethnicities are going slowly extinct and cancelled through mass migrations.

GOD SMILES ON US

[Anonymous No.20117734]

>>20117474
Hoffmann is autistic for coffee, that's why so many people love him. He genuinely cares to understand and try and test rather than just repeating what tradition dictates or what recent coffee "competition" "winners" say

[Anonymous No.20117743]

do any of you get something like a dirty high when drinking cheap coffee at home?

the other day i made myself and my dad a pot of his dunkin' donuts medium roast, and it made me feel anxious and wired in a way that my fancy scandinavian light roasts don't, even if i have two cups of them.

just wondering, since this has happened a few times over the past year. i don't feel great when drinking cheap coffee, which isn't even something i hesitate to do when i have to

[Anonymous No.20117750]

>>20117734
>Science moment

For once I’ll be the one saying this: go back to plebbit.

[Anonymous No.20117757]

>>20117731
>conquering the world one instagram follower at a time

[Anonymous No.20117762]

>>20117731
Ah yes, Brazil: the pinacle of whiteness

[Anonymous No.20117769]

>>20117711
His Nespresso videos are basically just him reverse-engineering their patented technology and suggesting how others might replicate it. If he was sponsored by Nespresso, they wouldn't allow that. Not to mention that most of his regular viewers are the type that dislike Nespresso, so it's not like he would be "appeasing his audience" with videos about Nespresso anyway.

[Anonymous No.20117779]

>>20117762
60 million Italians in Italy + 80 million diaspora in the world = 140.000.000 Italians in the world.

If your country is not in this list, you’re irrelevant.

Sorry.

Ps. United States are not one ethnicity so it doesn’t count of course

[Anonymous No.20117826]

>>20116926
P0 is probably the best grinder under 50
>>20117135
I'm guessing a smaller burr leads to a tighter fit or higher chance of alignment. If I was offered both I'd take the k6 but p2 is basically 3/4 of the k6 for half the price

[Anonymous No.20117828]

Who would have thought the trabattitard would start schitzing out 24hrs after realizing he can't handle espresso?

[Anonymous No.20117914]

What espresso machine for under $1000 should I buy specifically to impress women at my house?

[Anonymous No.20117919]

>>20117914
bialetti 6 cup stovetop

[Anonymous No.20117927]

And as always, the tunnel jannies removed the antisemitic posts but let all the other racism and insults online fucking kek.

I really feel bad for them knowing that IP addresses are basically unlimited.

[Anonymous No.20117929]

>>20117927

[Anonymous No.20118036]

>>20115950
>holy shit you did a heckin' nonconformity in my circlejerk thread
>stop typing like you didn't come from reddit right heckin' now

[Anonymous No.20118052]

>>20117914
bialetti 12 cup stovetop

[Anonymous No.20118074]

>>20107072
Ride bike into the room, grab cuppa from the barista, reheat it over the radiator block. Perfetto.

[Anonymous No.20118078]

>>20118036

[Anonymous No.20118237]

>>20103296
i just know its good for you and me

[Anonymous No.20118455]

New java seeds time.
Keen as to see what it’s all about.
I’ve heard nothing but good talk about "Les Mélanges Audacieux".
Pretty cool to taste these with some new bros and see what they have to offer, and to hopefully show them what I have too.
But yeah keen as, Chur.

>Buckle up: our Blend takes you on a world tour.


>>Why did you choose these origins?


>Separately, these are coffees with very different taste characteristics, Salvadoran coffee is a natural process, which gives a rather fruity and gourmet result. Yirgacheffe coffee, for its part, is a washed coffee, therefore a very lively, fruity and floral coffee. However, Malabar is a classy coffee, full of body in its purest state. Assembled in the right proportion, their differences create a balance. The body of the Malabar softens the liveliness of the Yirgacheffe, while the fruity and gourmand profile of the Salvador erases the certain bitterness of the Malabar.

>>Why mix them?

>Offering these blends helps diversify the knowledge of coffee enthusiasts, beyond simple Brazilian or Colombian coffee. It is by mixing very different coffees, from opposite cultures and with unique processing, that we can offer a balanced and harmonious blend in each cup.

>The objective? Offer a “Tour du Monde” trip to coffee enthusiasts while allowing themselves the opportunity to taste a complex bean. In short, arouse curiosity!

1/2

[Anonymous No.20118461]

>>20118455

>>El Manzanal Estate

>Jose Enrique Gutierrez named his farm Finca El Manzanal after the tree that abounds on the property. The Manzanos tree provides shade for coffee plants and acts as a windbreak, especially during flowering when the flowers must remain on the tree for the cherry to grow.

>In 2010, Jose Enrique introduced regenerative agricultural practices. He owns a collection of farms in Ahuachapan Township. His family produced coffee in the eastern region of El Salvador, but left the country in the 1980s due to low coffee prices and a civil war. Nonetheless, coffee is Jose Enrique's passion and when he purchased his first farm in 2007, he did so with a special mindset.

>>Yirgacheffe, the cradle of Ethiopia

>The legendary birthplace of coffee, Ethiopia grows exclusively Arabica coffee at altitudes between 1500 and 2300 meters. The Yirgacheffe terroir is famous for these coffees with floral notes of jasmine, made from varieties of mocha endemic to the region. This washed process coffee grows in the Gedeo region. The term Yirgacheffe designates both an aromatic typicity and a cooperative which brings together several small producers.

>>Malabar Monsooned Karnataka India

>The term "Malabar Monsooned" was coined after a transport accident. Shipments of Indian coffee beans destined for Europe and passing through the Cape of Good Hope were exposed to the high humidity of sea spray during this voyage. Upon their arrival, however, these cafés enjoyed a certain success in Europe. The particular qualities of this coffee were soon sought after.

First shot, 1:1,6 pull, comes out eminently balanced and harmonious. Will see if a smudge coarser will make the raspberry pop out more as caramel was the predominant tang.
Crikey. It's not just my curiosty that got aroused with this audacious blend.

2/2

[Anonymous No.20118518]

>>20116875
I've only seen the plastic one from flair and haven't found any aftermarket ones. I just got a Normcore tamper for shits and giggles and now Im having to sort of re-dial things in. It's consistent now at least so once I get all the other variables figured out I should be good to go.

[Anonymous No.20118551]

>>20118455
>>20118461
>Brand mascot is an old coot who probably died before any poster here was born.

[Anonymous No.20118580]

>>20117032
Flair 58 is such an overpriced ghetto contraption, though. Looks like it's supposed to break...

[Anonymous No.20118583]

>>20117344
Don't you have a local roaster?

[Anonymous No.20118593]

Light roast
212F
JX Pro 1-5-0
18g -> 40g, 55 seconds

Yeah, the Normcore tamper definitely compresses things more than I was with the included Flair tamper, so I'm having to readjust. 15g -> 40g in 30s was a little over extracted, but the grind seemed like a good size, so I upped the dose a bunch to 18g. The shot took a lot longer though so was still on the bitter side. Next time I'll try 1-5-1 and 16.5g -> 40g to see if I can't get all that to meet in the middle.

[Anonymous No.20118622]

>>20118580
>Looks like it's supposed to break
How so?

[Anonymous No.20118652]

>>20117344
My morning coffee cost 1€. I can clearly afford it.

[Anonymous No.20118657]

>>20117711
>he can't distinguish between genuine and shills.
Must be a hard life

[Anonymous No.20118695]

>>20118622
The electronics look ghetto and unreliable. Not worth the extra $200+ over the robot. Honestly, neither looks great to me, I'll probably just stick with Aeropress.

[Anonymous No.20118726]

>>20118695
Mine has been going strong since 2021 without a hitch. Even accidentally left it on for several days. Used in cafes and 3 michelin star restaurants without a problem.

[Anonymous No.20118761]

>>20117678
about as clean as the average italian

[Anonymous No.20118772]

>>20117344
i ONLY drink coffee at home.
so for me if i were to BUY from cafes the coffee i drink every day it would be about $5 per coffee so $15 per day on coffee, that is objectively worse in every single way than coffee i can make at home.
OR i can spend $30 A WEEK, on 250g specialty coffee that i can have the same amount of coffee a day but at a much much much higher quality.
it is cheaper to make it at home.
and then of course there is the upfront cost of buying decent equipment to make the coffee with, and then the time it takes to get actually good at making coffee at home and the time it takes to explore the world of specialty coffee and discover what you like.
but none of that is a recurring cost.

[Anonymous No.20118776]

>>20117729
>And yet he talked about Nespresso several times because he wanted to appease to his audience.
every single nespresso video he has made is about how they are a garbage company.
retard.

[Anonymous No.20118778]

>>20117743
yes but not in the way you are talking about it.

[Anonymous No.20118783]

>>20117914
should buy $1000 in starbucks gift cards instead. they will like you alot more.

[Anonymous No.20118788]

>>20118695
>The electronics look ghetto and unreliable
by what metric
> I'll probably just stick with Aeropress.
dont forget to dilate after!

[Anonymous No.20118811]

>>20118788
>$650
>Only warrantied for a year
>Countless webpages of people having electrical issues with it
>Temp instability, cords breaking, bullshit after bullshit.

Some people are ballin' well enough to afford a new one of these every year, I guess. I don't have a three star Michelin restaurant. I don't have enough confidence in it. Aeropress won't ever let me down.

[Anonymous No.20118824]

>>20118811
>Only warrantied for a year
warranty is poor mans cope.
>Countless webpages of people having electrical issues with it
great link a few of them.
>Temp instability, cords breaking, bullshit after bullshit.
prove it.
also im sure alot of that is user error, you have to assemble it and plug it into the wall in a certain order, so im sure most people didnt do that and just plugged it in without reading the manual.
>Aeropress won't ever let me down.
it will as soon as you make coffee with it
it is incapable of making good coffee.

[Anonymous No.20118840]

>>20118824
Simply Google "flair 58 broken" and you'll find MANY complaints. If you can't make good coffee with the Aeropress, you got a serious skill issue.

[Anonymous No.20118849]

>>20118811
>Temp instability
standard preheat with thermocouple slipped in to the top of silicone jacket. plunger was at the top until minute 18 or so and left until minute 22 1/2. Seems fine to me.

[Anonymous No.20118858]

>>20118849
Until it breaks, which it's guaranteed to. Whoever designed it doesn't seem like actual engineers. Or maybe they said fuck it, idk.

[Anonymous No.20118866]

>>20118858
Mine was shipped 954 days ago. No problems whatsoever. ~$99 for a brew head if it ever burns out, and its still completely functional without the preheater in the meantime. I don't understand your gripes.

[Anonymous No.20118872]

NEW
NEW
NEW
>>20118870
>>20118870
>>20118870

[Anonymous No.20118876]

>>20118840
its not a skill issue its a tool issue
the aeropiss makes bad coffee
the frenchpiss makes bad coffee
cheap espresso machines make bad coffee
>Until it breaks
ALREADY MOVING THE GOALPOSTS
>it has temp instability
>and if it doesnt it will
jesus christ

anyway i just looked at some long term reviews and all i have seen is "i had to replace an o ring once" or "i sold it because didnt like the workflow"
i havent seen anyone talk about bad temp or bad wires, or bad electronics.

also
>Simply Google "flair 58 broken" and you'll find MANY complaints.
this is a useless thing to say because if i google "flair 58 good" i will find many people praising the machine.

[Anonymous No.20118878]

>>20118872
you have to make a new thread the other one is ruined already

[Anonymous No.20118881]

>>20118876
Broken temp controller is like the most common complaint. They look like cheap Chinese electronics. Flair must be making huge profit on this.

[Anonymous No.20118892]

>>20118881
>Flair must be making huge profit
This is some extreme cope bud. Were you under the impression they're running a charity for the espressoless?

[Anonymous No.20118895]

>>20118881
>Broken temp controller is like the most common complaint.
do you have a source for that?

[Anonymous No.20118898]

>>20118895
God told me in a dream

[Anonymous No.20118901]

>>20118892
Nope, I'm under the impression they're selling overpriced shit. Even if it works better than everything else, there's no reason for it to cost so much.

[Anonymous No.20118902]

>>20118898
based

[Anonymous No.20118905]

>>20118895
Yeah

[Anonymous No.20118906]

>>20110245
My dude, if wife is going to get into any hobby of yours it's all or nothing.
Never short yourself on the things that matter to you, go all in and don't hold back.
If you put in that kind of energy she might even take notice and learn something, if it ever happens that is.
but until that point, don't just compromise to build up resentments against your partner, you can't hook with that.
pic unrel

[Anonymous No.20118915]

>>20118901
How much did you pay for a few cents of extruded plastic?

[Anonymous No.20118923]

>>20118901
>overpriced
by what metric?
you havent proven anything

[Anonymous No.20118925]

>>20118915
$20 on sale, and that was for the Aeropress Go! which comes with a mug, scoop, collapsible stirring wand, and silicone lid along with 350 filters.

[Anonymous No.20118936]

>>20118925
I wouldn't drink out of a plastic mug if they paid me $20. You got fucked pal.

[Anonymous No.20118950]

>>20118936
I like the idea of a stainless steel Aeropress, but I'd be worried about the stupid price. Titanium would be even cooler, for hiking.

[Anonymous No.20118953]

>>20118950
>Titanium
why

[Anonymous No.20118957]

>>20118953
Lightweight, lasts forever, no microplastic. Hikers count ever single ounce of weight.

[Anonymous No.20118960]

>>20118953
He's retarded.
>>20118950
Glass, steel, and aluminum aeropiss coming this summer. It'll be north of $100. So wildly overpriced, won't work better than anything else and is guaranteed to break. You'll love it.

[Anonymous No.20118962]

>>20118953
Titanium is also completely inert and biocompatible

[Anonymous No.20118964]

>>20118960
I'll steal one, very easy to hide up a sleeve

[Anonymous No.20118973]

>>20118953
The heat retention of titanium would be nice, the durability is such it will outlast me so, nice I would never have to buy another product like it ever again. then someone gets a nice present

[Anonymous No.20118984]

>>20118973
And the best thing is the price of titanium is only 20-40x more than steel!

[Anonymous No.20118996]

>>20118973
>>20118962
>>20118957
stainless steel is better for this application
it being titanium adds literally nothing that anyone cares about.

[Anonymous No.20119003]

>>20118996
I think a SS Aeropress should cost $20. Doesn't need to be too thick or complicated or fancy, it's just a fucking syringe. That's the cost of comparable kitchen gadgets made of stainless steel.

[Anonymous No.20119007]

>>20119003
>$20
>cost of comparable kitchen gadgets made of stainless steel
I just paid $33 for a box grater. You're dreaming.

[Anonymous No.20119013]

>>20118984
>>20118996
just get the ones you like anon, I will too.
I probably won't afford that high end model because I want it as soon as something is out, but I'd like the option later on if I decide to upgradde.

[Anonymous No.20119026]

>>20119013

[Anonymous No.20119034]

>>20119026
>Artisan

[Anonymous No.20119051]

>>20119034
The brand is ArtisanSmith. They have viets hammer out tubes.

[Anonymous No.20119054]

>>20117914
The most expensive breville you can get for that price. They have a vapid hoe friendly design.

[Anonymous No.20119056]

>>20119026
>press the copper aeropress
>crumples like a soda can

[Anonymous No.20119060]

>>20119056
It collapses for hiking. Hikers count event single deciliter of volume.

[Anonymous No.20119062]

>>20119051
It's one Viet guy, he made them by hand. A company could stamp these out for close to the same cost of a plastic one.

[Anonymous No.20119061]

>>20119060
>Every* single
What a fucking autocorrect. Get your shit together google.

[Anonymous No.20119070]

>>20119062
Its an australian guy outsourcing labor to vietnam.
> for close to the same cost of a plastic one
Just say you don't know what you're talking about and move on.

[Anonymous No.20119093]

>>20119070
They're made in Australia

[Anonymous No.20119119]

>>20119093
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qFG5u_xOylIThis

[Anonymous No.20119226]

>>20119119
So the guy's a scammer, is that supposed to mean he's not ridiculously overcharging? What is your point?

[Anonymous No.20119534]

>>20118811
650 isn't a lot of the end of the espresso spectrum

[Anonymous No.20119635]

>>20118518
Thaaanc.

Was eyeing the normiecore tamper too, I also bought a non optimal WDT tool but I’ll just git gud before upgrading. There’s no reason not to be able to have a flat puck with the standard tamper (which is good and heavy), so patience and practice.

I hate the plastic spout, it’s not that coffee exits at boiling temperature but I don’t want estrogens in my coffee. Maybe I can be creative and repurpose some other spouts, it’s just something that needs to fit in a hole, how difficult can that be…I just need to preheat that piece as well.

[Anonymous No.20119639]

>>20117491
How ironic is it that the anon larping as an Italian was actually the shill who got mass deleted?
What’s the point of this divide & conquer, shills? Is everything on this website fake?

[Anonymous No.20119670]

>>20119639
The idiot who got mass deleted was the gianinnia retard schitzing out. He did it with the broken moka, did it with the hario lid, and now done it over not being able to handle his flair.

[Anonymous No.20119966]

>>20119639
very little talk is about coffee in this general. it's mostly a place formarketing interns to shill products. some even hate decaf lmao.

[Anonymous No.20120017]

>>20119966
im just here to post the latest james hoffmann video with the text "ITS UP!"

[Anonymous No.20120103]

>>20120017
is coffee the only hobby where the most popular guy is in fact also the most informed, least annoying person? You can scream schizophrenically about him not going niggerniggernigger every second but he's genuinely really highly esteemed in the field and not obnoxious.. I do wish he'd do less gimmick videos though

[Anonymous No.20120106]

>>20120103
as far as i know, yes

[Anonymous No.20120342]

Went to Torrefazione Continental to fetch some 100% arabica degoff dark roast, so it’s not as temperature sensible as my medium roasted specialty, also because I can drink it as much as I want.

JX Pro at 1.5.2, this is my dialled in setting, 16 gr in and 40 gr out in 45 seconds included 13 seconds of pre infusion. Slayer profile (8 bar and ramping pressure down from 30 grams yield to finish).

Cuppa was strong af, I’m not used to double espresso, a little bitter too but these are not high quality beans so it’s ok (their blends are more balanced than 100% arabica for some reason).

So, next tries I will do a turbo shot to avoid soften the cuppa and will also try a lower ratio to see if this helps skip extracting the final bitter part.

[Anonymous No.20120563]

hate when people do coffee wrong

[Anonymous No.20120766]

>>20120563
so true so true