/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.20100661]

Gas stove bros, it's over for us

[Anonymous No.20100667]

I feel like this is a recipe for people burning their houses down.

[Anonymous No.20100670]

>>20100661
That knob is gonna get so fucking gross. Make it a magnet that you stick on your fridge and then put on the stove to adjust it. That way you have a clean surface to wipe down.

[Anonymous No.20100676]

>>20100667
Retards are going to do that anyways.

[Anonymous No.20100700]

>>20100661
Don't care, I'll make my own woodgas, fuck off WEF shill

[Anonymous No.20100704]

>>20100661
>YOU BURNT THE WATER

[Anonymous No.20100705]

Gas works with over 97 percent of the cookware in existence. Induction does not.
Cheap ass coil also works with 97+ percent of all cookware.

[Anonymous No.20100786]

>>20100705
I dont care I doubt I would ever need any cookware that isnt induction compatible, and can always use a portable gas stove as a backup anyway.

[Anonymous No.20100840]

10000 watts is over 40 amps at 240 volts. How would you be able to use two burners at once without needing to supply this fucker with 100 amp feeder?

[Anonymous No.20100844]

>>20100705
>Copper, glass, aluminum
Who cares

[Anonymous No.20100846]

>>20100840
The WEF doesn't think you can at math

[Anonymous No.20100894]

>>20100661
what is the solution to this you guys think?
make it so that the burner is only active when it knows something is on it like conductive material or weight?

[Anonymous No.20100904]

>>20100894
thats already a common mechanic

[Anonymous No.20100905]

>>20100894
>what is the solution
gas stove

[Anonymous No.20100945]

>>20100661
wait why is the water already hot? who uses hot faucet water for cooking?

[Anonymous No.20100951]

>>20100661
>10 kW
Too much power for the human mind

[Anonymous No.20100956]

niggas finna warp all they pots and pans

[Anonymous No.20100959]

>>20100951
that's also 83 amps.
that's almost half a standard panel amperage in the US lmao

[Anonymous No.20100972]

>>20100945
>wait why is the water already hot?
anon, could it be that...now stay with me on this...could it be that the recording doesn't start until it's already partway through being heated up? wild i know

[Anonymous No.20100975]

>>20100667
but enough about gas ranges

[Anonymous No.20100978]

>>20100972
rather ambiguous though, no?

[Anonymous No.20100979]

>>20100844
literally this. what is even the benefit of copper/aluminum aside from heating fast, which induction does with iron/steel?

[Anonymous No.20101015]

>>20100978
i don't know and i honestly don't care. i don't watch videos like this and immediately think there's some sort of coverup/conspiracy going on because i'm not mentally ill

[Anonymous No.20101017]

>>20101015
okay but you are trans and therefor mentally ill

[Anonymous No.20101023]

>>20101017
how did you know?

[Anonymous No.20101025]

>>20101023
i have a jewdar and a transdar that received internet calibrations. i can stop a jew or a tranny from the other side of the planet.

[Anonymous No.20101059]

>>20100661
Don't care. Gas stove till death.

[Anonymous No.20101067]

the water is already steaming hot, if I turn my gas stove up that exact thing will happen

[Anonymous No.20101103]

>>20100670
It will connect to the internet! Control it with your phone!

[Anonymous No.20101104]

I know this is entirely outside of retards' ability to comprehend, but when I'm cooking I actually have other things I care about other than how fast I can boil a pot of water.

[Anonymous No.20101113]

>>20100945
I put scalding ass hot tap water into my electric kettle, heats up much faster than cold.

[Anonymous No.20101120]

>>20101113
OK, put hot water from your faucet into your kettle.

Tell me how fast it takes the boil.

[Anonymous No.20101127]

>>20101120
You are telling me the cold water will heat just as quickly?
Do your grits gook faster in your local then elsewhere?

[Anonymous No.20101129]

>>20101113
water from the water heater generally has more stuff dissolved in it due to minerals and detritus accumulating in the tank, and is more likely to have an "off" flavor.

[Anonymous No.20101132]

>>20101127
Holy fuck, how is the literacy on this website so bad?

The stove in the webm can go from above room temp to boiling in 40 seconds. A kettle and a gas stove can't do that.
It can put out a max of 10kW of power, that can take cold water to boiling hot in seconds.

[Anonymous No.20101162]

>>20100661
I wonder if this fucks up your pans. I know they had to make special carbon steel skillets for induction because they would warp the normal ones.

[Anonymous No.20101167]

>>20100894
Solution to what? I have a stove, it works fine. End of.

[Anonymous No.20101179]

My favorite feature of induction is how it kills people with pacemakers, very based

[Anonymous No.20101184]

What truly remarkable technology
How did we ever live up until now?

[Anonymous No.20101188]

>>20101113
disgusting. you should look inside your hot water heater sometime. it's nasty. also leaded solder, chinese valves, PFAS in hdpe. fucking gross

[Anonymous No.20101235]

>>20100840
You'd keep your 50amp circuit and just disable the things ability to do 10kW? 2 "burners" at 5k, 4 at 2.5k, etc.

[Anonymous No.20101244]

>>20101235
with the trannEV business picking up, it could have LiFPo4 batteries in it that can provide that current. in the US that's 90 amps from the mains. gonna be a lot of house fires if anyone buys this thing

[Anonymous No.20101245]

>>20100661
No one debates that you can make a good induction burner, the problem is the power draw. They're horrendously inefficient compared to just generating heat with combustion, and you're going to need an updated electrical panel to handle the draw. That one burner is like running 6-10 microwaves all at once, now imagine four of them going at the same time.

[Anonymous No.20101258]

>>20101244
>EV business picking up

Dying fad because it's already experiencing the scaling limits we knew it had

[Anonymous No.20101349]

>>20101184
Joe Biden voters real quiet since this dropped

[Anonymous No.20101376]

>10kW

That's good for commercial purposes, but if I'm going to be paying out the ass for power usage it's going to be for household heating. At least gas is a separate bill.

[Anonymous No.20101421]

Cool. Give me one back burner that instantly boils water and make the rest of them gas so that I can actually cook food with some degree of control over the heat.

[Anonymous No.20101427]

>>20100667
bro, your gas stove?

[Anonymous No.20101458]

Power goes out
>Induction Normie NPCs starve to death because they cant heat water up to make their Ramen noodles
Gas Stove Chads enjoy hot meals on their gas stoves all night long while banging the Induction Normie NPCs moms by candle light.

[Anonymous No.20101504]

>>20101245

[Anonymous No.20101541]

>>20101129
>>20101188
I had no idea. Never doing that shit again.

[Anonymous No.20101603]

>>20101113
degenerate tier

[Anonymous No.20101640]

>>20101458
>gas and power go out
>Wood stove Chad's nice and toasty when it's-20f out drinking hot mocha by the fire

[Anonymous No.20101644]

>>20101258
>be american
>buy EV
>three years later, want new car because american
>buy new TESLA
>old EV goes to used lot, hard sell cause it's only got about 7 years left on battery
>ffw ten years dig big hole in desert for 700k EV batteries

[Anonymous No.20101650]

>>20101644
Nah bro. The next (((terrorist))) attack all these ev batteries will conveniently be beath a large building recently insured by chaim bergenberg and suddenly start a fire.

[Anonymous No.20101680]

I'll just not use these things because electricity and open cooking don't mix. It's not the same as using an oven.

[Anonymous No.20101705]

>>20101113
> scalding ass hot tap water
>scalding
>tap water

[Anonymous No.20101711]

>>20101705
Yes hot water from your water heater comes from the tap. Unless you're British then you're just human garbage

[Anonymous No.20101731]

>>20100959
>83 amps
More like 43

Oh right, you live in a developing nation

[Anonymous No.20101732]

>>20101731
Go die for Ukraine faggot

[Anonymous No.20101778]

>>20101113
>hot tap water
he LOVES excess pipe minerals

[Anonymous No.20101795]

>>20101705
I control how hot my hot water gets, as can most Americans, bud.

[Anonymous No.20101796]

>>20101778
Something extra, we don't even have to pay for them or leave a tip!

[Anonymous No.20101810]

>>20100667
Those people won't be able to afford that kind of stove. It primary target are wealthy people who don't cook.

[Anonymous No.20101816]

>>20101258
>Go on vacation
>Rent EV
>No charger at the hotel
>"Ok I'll go to the mall"
>All chargers at the mall taken
>"Ok, I'll go to another mall"
>All chargers taken again
>Run out of power
How did Hertz not see this coming?

[Anonymous No.20101824]

>>20101188
ive worked at a golf club that did this too, though they had ungodly expensive tankless water heaters supplying every tap around the property and member residences

[Anonymous No.20101826]

The only reason to have a gas stove is if you live in a third world shithole like West Virginia where the power goes out every time the wind blows

[Anonymous No.20101828]

>>20101025
based 'dar haver

[Anonymous No.20101838]

>>20100661
>10kw
Who the hell has 3 phase power in their house

[Anonymous No.20101851]

>>20101816

Another case of a company being woefully out of touch with the current state of affairs. They were so busy enjoying all the praise for "going green" that they didn't think to stop and consider it may not be the best business move

[Anonymous No.20101854]

>>20100661
This 4 burner cooktop costs $6,000 and a used gas range off craigslist is $300. It's cool but the price makes it a rich man's toy.

[Anonymous No.20101858]

>>20101838
Common in my country, but 10kW is still way higher than the typical stove.

[Anonymous No.20101859]

>>20100667
looks like induction. No fires to happen here. You could take the pot off and put your hand on the range without burning yourself

[Anonymous No.20101862]

>>20101129
unless you're constantly kicking and shaking your water heater, all the sediments settle to the bottom

[Anonymous No.20101886]

>>20100661
Are there really people walking around thinking "fire is obsolete"? What will you do in a power outage?

[Anonymous No.20101888]

>>20101862
I think it is more about them not having access or control of their appliances.

[Anonymous No.20101893]

>>20101886
>What will you do in a power outage?
just live in a place that has a working power grid, it's not that hard bro

[Anonymous No.20101901]

>>20101838
developped nations

[Anonymous No.20101925]

>>20101859
Not true. The pot heats up and then as it’s sitting on the glass it heats up the glass.

[Anonymous No.20101939]

>>20101859
T: hasn't used induction and doesn't understand how physics woek

[Anonymous No.20101953]

>>20101458
>Power goes out
Is this some favela thing?

[Anonymous No.20101958]

>>20100661
The government wants to push electric stoves so they can turn them off whenever patriots try to cook meat.

[Anonymous No.20101962]

>>20101953
It's a trimp schizo he thinks the world is going to collapse in two weeks and only menial labor chads whose jobs take two minutes to learn will survive

[Anonymous No.20101964]

>>20101962

[Anonymous No.20101968]

>>20101859
No you can't kek

[Anonymous No.20101970]

>>20101968
Let him try.

[Anonymous No.20101975]

>>20101964
fact you have that image saved and ready to go proves i was right lmao

[Anonymous No.20101979]

>>20100705
So stop using randomized cookware drops and disposing of it after each use.

[Anonymous No.20101983]

>>20101188
The stuff in the hot water heaters is minerals that drop out of the water when it heats. It's in the hot water heater because it's no longer in the water. There's more of it in the cold water line.

[Anonymous No.20101986]

>>20101975
Not the same guy.

[Anonymous No.20101987]

>>20101858
>Common in my country
>>20101901
>developped nations

Not the anon you responded too but seriously, where do you live that has a 3 Phase domestic supply?

[Anonymous No.20101989]

>>20101987
Military Base

[Anonymous No.20102080]

>>20101986
Oh so you're a freelance cocksucker

[Anonymous No.20102103]

>>20100670
>make it with a thing your kids or stupid wife can lose

fuck off retard

[Anonymous No.20102105]

>>20100661

My only question is will this fucking thing be constantly cycling on and off like a modern stove, or will it allow temperatures in excess of 800 degrees if left on high?

[Anonymous No.20102108]

>>20101258
>>20101816
>>20101851
The majority of people renting these things were Uber/Lyft drivers who would trash them ferrying around drunks and people with pets.

[Anonymous No.20102132]

>>20102080
Enjoy, “The rage of the disesteemed is personally fruitless, (snip) and is therefore not susceptible to any arguments whatever.”
James Baldwin.
K Monke?

[Anonymous No.20102133]

>>20101987
>where do you live that has a 3 Phase domestic supply?
see >>20101901

[Anonymous No.20102158]

>>20100661
a wild turbopot appears. it uses surface area.
it is very effective.

[Anonymous No.20102166]

>>20102158
Takes up too much space.

[Anonymous No.20102173]

>>20102166
no it doesn't. cope harder. I have one.

[Anonymous No.20102175]

>>20100661
I love how electric shills go on and on about boiling water fast. who the fuck cares. I need to boil water maybe once or twice a month. if I really need it fast I use a microwave.

[Anonymous No.20102189]

>>20102175
but anon you don't understand. I NEED my ramen a couple minutes sooner or my precious time will be wasted

[Anonymous No.20102191]

>>20100661
A meme. Nothing more.

[Anonymous No.20102194]

>>20102158
really cool idea, too bad they're all disc bottom trash

when someone makes a heavy copper pan with a finned base call me please

[Anonymous No.20102218]

Gross
Imagine consuming tank water to save 45 seconds

[Anonymous No.20102239]

*beeep beeep beeep beeep*

[Anonymous No.20102244]

>>20102105
This is peak stove
You will never convince me otherwise

[Anonymous No.20102265]

>>20100840
I think this is that thing with a massive lifepo4 battery in it. So it uses the battery to get shit up to temperature and then idles on mains.

[Anonymous No.20102269]

>>20101838
A dual phase US socket can deliver 9.6 kW too.

[Anonymous No.20102275]

>2028, go to cook a meal
>grab a Samsung Tru-Heat Cooking Vessel and place it on the stove
>wait for the pan recognition to verify, throw some butter in
>*Warning, unrecommended cooking fat detected, please try again*
>sigh, wipe out the pan and add Samsung Cleanfry Oil
>start searing the meat
>*Warning, high heat non-vegetarian cooking can generate harmful byproducts, reducing temperature*
>stove plays an infomercial about Samsung Never Bean Better Protein Chunks while my food boils
>dish up
>an alert about my monthly calorie allotment running low scrolls around the rim of my Samsung Smart Plate

[Anonymous No.20102277]

>>20102218
So you use well water? What about the radiation?

[Anonymous No.20102339]

>>20102277
Storing it in a tank doesnt change the radioactivity

[Anonymous No.20102348]

>>20100667
>their houses down
well, their banks house.

[Anonymous No.20102376]

>>20102339
City water contains all kinds of junk.
Birth-control chems among other things. Who do you think works at those low-skill waterworks jobs anyway?

[Anonymous No.20102729]

>>20100667
>I feel like

[Anonymous No.20102753]

>>20100840
>he doesn't have a 400v outlet
lmao

[Anonymous No.20102850]

>>20102103
>raising dipshits kids who touch things they're not supposed to
>marrying a "stupid" wife
Yeah pretty sure you're the retard

[Anonymous No.20102860]

>>20102376
I fucking wish city water contained all that crazy scizo shit you retards think it does. Free birth control, imagine that. I fucking wish

[Anonymous No.20102872]

>>20101705
You can adjust the temp on your water heater if you don't live in an apartment.
Mine is about 110F.

[Anonymous No.20102879]

>>20101987
How do you think we get 22KW?

[Anonymous No.20102886]

>>20102244
I am legit sorry for you

[Anonymous No.20102891]

>>20102886
Why?

[Anonymous No.20102921]

>>20102891
nta, it's common to pity mental retardation.

[Anonymous No.20102933]

>>20102921
Mental retardation is voluntarily piping vocs into your kitchen

[Anonymous No.20102987]

>>20102175
Why are these motherfuckers always boiling water? They should roast or at least pan fry something and eat. Or even make a stew!

[Anonymous No.20103007]

>>20100959
If your stove plugs are like ours (and they are) I believe you're looking at 240V (1 hot from either side of your mains), breakered/fused at 50A, so 12000W total. That entire oven probably maxes out at 10,000W. I really can't see it funnelling all of that into one burner.

[Anonymous No.20103017]

>>20100667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRzSKcRtsLA
Burn down or blown up. Make your choice blight man.

[Anonymous No.20103018]

>>20102987
The math is really easy with water (and accurate if you know the ambient temperature and pressure). It gets a lot more complicated when try to pull numbers out of "Look at this well seared, blue-rare porterhouse!"

[Anonymous No.20103052]

>>20102105
They usually have a feedback loop (thermostat basically) that keeps your pan from blue-ing, but some don't, and will just keep firing off an EMF until failure or someone finally turns it off.

[Anonymous No.20103138]

>>20100661
I don't use a pot to boil water, I use my kettle.

[Anonymous No.20103146]

>>20101640
>>20101458
Based, I too have a wood stove.

[Anonymous No.20103171]

>>20100661
Mad electrofaggot?

[Anonymous No.20103205]

>>20103018
Yes, but the porterhouse can sell it.

[Anonymous No.20103255]

>>20101886
What do you do in a gas outage? Yes, that happens.

[Anonymous No.20103260]

>>20102103
You should remove yourself from the genepool.

[Anonymous No.20103268]

>>20101103
IOT is a cancer, you can still make technologically advanced things without the internet, it's fine to not connect things.

[Anonymous No.20103274]

>>20103205
The problem being that the porterhouse is actually kind of slow to diffuse that energy. You'd blow a few people away by searing the fuck out of the outside of an otherwise cold steak with thousands of watts delivered as directly as possible. To cook a steak through to the medium-rare people expect, you actually have to dial it back, or your're going to have a bone-in charcoal briquette with some perfectly cooked meat in the middle.

[Anonymous No.20103275]

>>20101245
A resistive electric stovetop (which itself gets hot and transfers heat to the pan by conduction) is not the same as an induction burner.

Combusting gas is "more efficient" at generating heat by certain measures (and it's of course always more efficient than if you use the same combustion to create electricity upstream, then convert the electricity to heat downstream). But on a stovetop there is a lot of waste heat between the flame and the pan that is not present with induction burners.

[Anonymous No.20103281]

>>20101987
>where do you live that has a 3 Phase domestic supply?
Some place where not even a single day is dedicated to noggers

[Anonymous No.20103295]

>>20100661
The question for me with electric stovetops has never been how fast it heats up, but how fast it cools down.

I can't very well set aside 3 or even 2 burners set at different temperatures going for every pan in a meal. You can/should use spacers I guess, but I don't see them sold.

[Anonymous No.20103313]

>>20103171
Tbh this and some tortillas are my only exclusive use case for gas burners over electric. The issue can be solved with a set-aside burner, like even as an attachment to my blowtorch if I don't otherwise have a gas line.

[Anonymous No.20103316]

>>20103295
Induction usually fan cools the electronics and ceramic surface (from the inside). The surface will heat up from conduction from the pan, but it's not anywhere near the cooldown time of a tungsten element, more like a surface you had a hot pot on.

[Anonymous No.20103318]

>>20103171
Not really. I just fire up a burner on the bbq for roasting peppers, or pop in a few pellet packs to smoke them.

[Anonymous No.20103325]

>>20102850
you don't have a girlfriend nor children lmao

[Anonymous No.20103354]

>>20103171
What? You can recreate this with a broiler easily.

[Anonymous No.20103362]

>>20103274
The only thing which can cook a steak faster are the fancy Miele Dialog ovens.

[Anonymous No.20103397]

>>20103362
Salamanders do a pretty god damned bang up job - but you don't get that pan crust. You'd want your exhaust fan set to OH GOD WHY, but you can sear a steak in a stainless pan on an induction burner, and drop the temp down in under a minute (immediate at the source, but you have to let the pan stop being hot) to gently coast it to a med-rare.

[Anonymous No.20103423]

>>20103171
This is gross
People who do this are gross

[Anonymous No.20103432]

>>20103397
If the heat has to go outside in, you're almost going to be limited. A salamander/grill can go a little faster without charring than a pan, but at the cost of a bigger gray zone.

Dialog oven is the only way to heat the steak from inside.

[Anonymous No.20103470]

>>20103432
Oh... it's a microwave in a convection oven. Neat!

[Anonymous No.20103526]

>>20103470
It's not microwave, it's a dielectric oven. Works at 6.78 or 13.56 MHz, microwave works at 2.4 GHz. It's the only one of it's kind for consumers, for the rest only some production line stuff uses dielectric heating of food.

[Anonymous No.20103646]

>>20101458
Yo what is a fireplace?

[Anonymous No.20103719]

>>20103526
Oh... it's a shortwave in a convection oven. Neat!

[Anonymous No.20103745]

>>20100670
you could just clean the knob and the rest of the stove top.

[Anonymous No.20103785]

>>20101640
>drinking hot mocha by the fire
While sucking dick, I'm sure. If you're drinking mocha by the fire them you a gay-ass nigga.

[Anonymous No.20103786]

>>20100661
The heat of the pot boils the water

[Anonymous No.20103816]

>>20101859
yes the pot of 600 degree oil cares about the temperature of the range surface

[Anonymous No.20103834]

>>20101862
I've tested my water heater dissolved solids and they're double of the cold water

[Anonymous No.20103842]

>>20103785
Yeah, you OE chugging niggas ain't never seen dick in prison, right? Bring the Hennessey on your way back in, puto.

[Anonymous No.20103845]

>>20103786
The speed of the current changes heat the pot

[Anonymous No.20103873]

>>20103423
What? you burn the peel then rinse them or brush them with a cloth.

[Anonymous No.20103878]

>>20103873
ew gross

[Anonymous No.20103944]

>>20103873
Roasted peppers are too spicy for little Timmy.

[Anonymous No.20104009]

>>20100661
>Heh, I want to reach the world record for boiling water

[Anonymous No.20104035]

>>20104009
>good thing you don't. cuz you'd be a sore loose

[Anonymous No.20104071]

>>20104035
>I'll make you sore and loose

[Anonymous No.20104072]

>>20102275
You say this in jest, but the executives of those companies would unironically love to see a future exactly as described in your post.

[Anonymous No.20104080]

>>20104071
you have until the water boils, hurry up anon-kun

[Anonymous No.20104099]

>>20104080
What will we do with the other 23 seconds?

[Anonymous No.20104113]

>>20102729
Local anon too cool to feel.

[Anonymous No.20104120]

Oh look more cheap chink made throwaway tech that will break within a month

[Anonymous No.20104133]

>>20104120
Does it still count as chink made if it's made in San Francisco?

[Anonymous No.20104134]

>>20104113
Hey man hypothermia is no joke and induction is really bad at warming you up, it needs ferrous materials. Seek help you can lose limbs.

[Anonymous No.20104154]

>>20104133
absolutely

[Anonymous No.20104253]

>>20104134
>t. Negro

[Anonymous No.20104323]

>>20104099
I'll make some tea honey

[Anonymous No.20104354]

>>20104323
I don't just love you because you're cute, but it certainly doesn't hurt.

[Anonymous No.20104725]

>>20101953
>>20101893
>just live in a place that has a working power grid, it's not that hard bro
[laughs in Texan]

[Anonymous No.20104752]

>>20102265
>I think this is that thing with a massive lifepo4
Holy shit, what a great idea, put something that sets itself on fire and can't be extinguished and pours out toxic gases into a stovetop.

>>20103255
>What do you do in a gas outage? Yes, that happens.
I've literally never experienced a "gas outage" in 59 years. Power outages happen two or three times a year at least. Then again I live in third-world Chicago.

[Anonymous No.20104755]

>>20100661
>Gas stove bros, it's over for us
No it's not. That fucker is using 10kW of wall power, and even from a 240v source that's cranking more than the 30 amps allowed on residential circuits. You'd need two 240v sources to power that bitch. And then enjoy the fucking $100 monthly power bill from using 10kW to heat water like that.

Also, Sam in the image is LYING. Faucet temperature is in the range of 120 - 140 deg F depending on your hot water heater settings. Well below the actual boiling point he shows in video. Boiling water is super fucking dangerous to have out of a tap. That shit is steaming too - so it is already near boil, 200 deg+. No fucking way is that crap taking water from room temp to boil that fast.

>>20102265
Lipo battery in hot appliance is a literal recipe for a runaway house fire. Fuck that if it is true.

[Anonymous No.20104763]

>>20100972
OP claims it is faucet temp (lie number 1, it's not), and then shows it going into rolling boil to make it seem like it was super fast (lie number 2). Coupled with the knowledge that libshits are trying to ban gas every chance they get so they can control you with power outages, and you can see this OP is a malicious actor spreading misinformation (the lies prove malicious intent), both to sell a shitty product with false claims, as well as push climate shit activism.

[Anonymous No.20104789]

>>20101132
>The stove in the webm can go from above room temp to boiling in 40 seconds
That is a false claim in the video. The water is actually near boil (200-210ish) and they just crank the power to show it boiling. There was fucking steam at the beginning, that shit doesn't appear until you have very hot water, NOT room temp water. Room temp being 75 deg F.

You are being lied to. An honest demo would have showed them filling it from the faucet from cold tap and then slapping it on.

[Anonymous No.20104791]

>>20103834
How does the water simultaneously deposit minerals in your tank while dissolving them?

[Anonymous No.20104801]

>>20101258
It would have scaled if infrastructure existed for it, but even the fucking libshits who dicksuck EV CEOs can't even install infrastructure for it. It's a fucking joke how bad Democrats are at installing EV charging in their areas.

[Anonymous No.20104809]

>>20104801
they made their bed when they fought against nuclear power for decades
america could be running on clean electricity right this very second but the libs refused because the word nuclear is frightening to them

[Anonymous No.20104814]

>>20101893
It's all fun and games until you get brownouts.
>Texas
>California
>New York

Shit's going to spread as we replace all our smart old people with dumb immigrants and anti-work commies who don't care to maintain shit.

[Anonymous No.20104823]

>>20101886
>what will you do in a power outage?

Uh, eat cold food?

[Anonymous No.20104855]

>>20101886
>What will you do in a power outage?
What's that?

[Anonymous No.20104871]

>>20103268
If they're gonna develop and market a remote controlled stove then they're also gonna make it farm your data. Once you make a communicating device then it's trivial to add data harvesting to massively increase profits.

[Anonymous No.20104877]

Gas stove wins simply for its energy redundancy, even if it wasn't simply better in every other way. In a power outage, you can still cook and heat your living space.

[Anonymous No.20104878]

>>20104871
Just say no to internetofshit

[Anonymous No.20104895]

>>20103138
What about Pasta anon?

[Anonymous No.20104908]

>>20101103
>Ravioli burn because the wifi is down

[Anonymous No.20105087]

>>20100959
imagine not having 400V in your house

[Anonymous No.20105350]

>>20103786

[Anonymous No.20105749]

>>20104755
>Lipo
This is Lithium Iron Phosphate, not Lithium Polymer. LiFePO4 doesn't have the thermal runaway or expansion issues that (Lithium) Cobalt Oxide does, or most of the polymer electrolytes, at the tradeoff of lower energy density, and being a serious pain in the ass to make it work at all (small particle size or carbon nanotube coating, both of which jack the price up).

You could probably still cause a really serious fire if you tried, but separating the lithium or phosphorous in the battery so that they can oxidize (catch fire and melt your kitchen) would require serious tampering or solid Chinesium 99.99% of the time... That said, that 10,000th oven is going to hit the news hard.

[Anonymous No.20105768]

>>20105087
It's pretty easy to imagine in North America. They give us two 120V legs completely out of phase with each other. It's possible to get a 3 phase 120 service, and even a 3 phase 240 installed, but it's not cheap, and we really have to plead our case (it probably won't happen in a purely residential zoning).

[Anonymous No.20105818]

>>20100661
Heating pans at full blast will probably kill them eventually.
What would be a good way to prevent this?
Maybe carbon steel would be more resistant but will tend to get bent, so probably a wok would be ideal with such stove.

[Anonymous No.20105827]

i use a gas stove and there's nothing anyone can do about it

[Anonymous No.20105943]

>>20100840
/diy/ crossover thread

[Anonymous No.20105949]

>>20105818
just don't do it with nothing in the pan. same goes with gas

[Anonymous No.20105981]

>>20100894
i propose a final solution to the electric stove question

[Anonymous No.20106046]

>>20100959
>not having a separate breaker panel for just your kitchen
Pathetic

[Anonymous No.20106076]

>>20102239
science says basting does literally nothing

[Anonymous No.20106080]

>>20105818
The same's true for any pan on any heat source. Stainless is resistant, so it heats faster The burner-pot combo being an induction transformer turning a low-amperage, high voltage alternating current in your coil into a low voltage, high amperage short circuit in your pot, Just about any induction cooking surface you buy these days will have some sort of feedback to keep it from warping, bluing, or ruining the stainless on your pan, but guaranteed it allow a carbon steel pan to get hot enough to yellow..

[Anonymous No.20106092]

>>20101987
Scandinavia

[Anonymous No.20106271]

>>20101859

[Anonymous No.20106889]

>>20106076
Spoon some foaming hot butter over your hand and report back.

[Anonymous No.20106900]

>>20106889
after you cooked your hand on a 200c pan for 5 mins?
Whats its gonna do

[Anonymous No.20106901]

>>20103171
i have a grill??????

[Anonymous No.20106988]

>>20103325
nor you

[Anonymous No.20106995]

dont care, still using gas like the rest of country does
without fire theres no cooking

[Anonymous No.20107015]

>>20106995
>without fire theres no cooking
it's nice to have opinions, even when they're fundamentally retarded such as yours, it's what this country's based on

[Anonymous No.20107132]

>>20101859
don't do this

[Anonymous No.20107136]

>>20107015
Look what it's done for politics, science, and medicine! You're never wrong with opinion based facts!

[Anonymous No.20107141]

>>20101859
>>20107132
Yeah... I'd wait a bit for that surface to cool down from pot temp. If it was cold, you could turn it up full blast, and as long as you didn't have any ferro-magnetic metal on/in your hand, it would be a-otay! If you're an engineer, it would probably really, really suck.

[Anonymous No.20107242]

>>20100661
>How to warp a pan
>>20100676
Retards buy induction
>>20100705
Gas will always be better than induction because. Gas creates a heat zone below the pan that acts as a heat buffer to keep the pan temp constant after adding ingreadents.

On induction the only thing that is hot is the pan so when you add ingredients the pan loses heat much faster--this is very pronounced at low temperatures.

>>20100846
They're right. Math is raycest anyways.

[Anonymous No.20107375]

>>20107141
induction stoves have a hot surface warning so people wont stick their hands there

[Anonymous No.20107478]

>>20107375
Yeah, but people on the lower rungs are really leaning into Darwinism lately.

[Anonymous No.20107514]

Where we at with blue cities banning gas stoves in new building? NYC passed some retarded law that bans gas stoves in new building in a few years. How the fuck are new restaurants going to function? Is old restaurant property going to become a super commodity like a liquor license or taxi medallions before Uber?

>In April, New York state leaders led by Governor Hochul reached an agreement to ban natural gas hookups in small buildings beginning in 2026 and large buildings beginning in 2028. "Everyone knows we've seen the effects of climate change — the storms, the hurricanes coming to New York, record snow amounts. Oct 13, 2023

[Anonymous No.20107526]

>>20106900
Literally nothing according to you, why not try it?

[Anonymous No.20107535]

The amount of heat in so little time...... That shit is going to warp your cookware

[Anonymous No.20107537]

>>20101810
a lot of retards have a lot of money

[Anonymous No.20107540]

People pushing for electrical stoves are such weird busy-body fascists. Who gives a fuck, why are you trying to go into people's homes and change their kitchen, kill yourselves

[Anonymous No.20107545]

>>20107535
It could, but anything with any sort of warranty these days is very likely working off of feedback. If the pan's empty, it's going to hit temp much faster. When it does, the coil will only fire up again when it drops below range.

[Anonymous No.20107555]

>>20107540
Greta is only worth $18 million. How can anyone be expected to survive on that in todays economy? Her future is stolen unless we ban all gas stoves because that will end climate change. Do you want to steal Greta’s future, chud?

[Anonymous No.20107574]

>be raised by azn aunt
>fucking charcoal fire stir frys
>delicious af, nothing topped it since

induction cooking can suck a dick

[Anonymous No.20107672]

>>20107574
It can? I'll take two!

[Anonymous No.20109073]

>>20101859
The heat of the glass surface burns anon's hand

[Anonymous No.20109150]

what is the point of comparing 10kw to 2kw? let's see how fast a 50k btu wok burner boils things.

[Anonymous No.20109153]

>>20101235
>You'd keep your 50amp circuit
The *main breaker* on this old place is 40A.

[Anonymous No.20109158]

>>20101258
I don't know why they jumped straight to pure ev instead of promoting hybrids as the transitional option.

[Anonymous No.20109159]

My highschool physics professor said induction stoves cause microwave radiation

[Anonymous No.20109180]

>>20100667
Feel this *presents dick*

[Anonymous No.20109219]

>>20100705
Does this not exist for you?

[Anonymous No.20109258]

>>20100975
fuck off, plebbit faggot.

[Anonymous No.20109261]

>>20103268
Forget internet of things, internet of bodies is here.

[Anonymous No.20109274]

>>20101235
>Yeah bro, just use a 50-amp circuit, bro

[Anonymous No.20110348]

>>20109274
The current in the copper heats the wire

[Anonymous No.20110417]

>>20109219
>am ze chef

[Anonymous No.20110456]

>>20100661
Obviously induction can heat faster, because it's causing the metal of the pan to heat directly.
But speed isn't the point of using gas, the point is control.
And with induction you have even less control of where heat is on the pan than you do with a basic electric coil burner.

[Anonymous No.20110674]

>>20101132
>a gas stove can't do that.
I mean, if you poured shitloads of cash into upgrading your gas stove like op vid did into theirs, i don't see any reason why it couldn't.

[Anonymous No.20110754]

>>20110456
All stoves should have an induction plate and three or more gas plates

[Anonymous No.20110809]

>>20100844
>>20100979
I love it when midwits that don't cook think they're not obviously midwits that don't cook.

[Anonymous No.20110815]

As a physicist/engineer.
It's 10 fucking kW. You can't compete with that
You just can't.

[Anonymous No.20110823]

>>20110815
That's 91 amperes running on a mere 110Volts.
....let that sink in...91amperes!

[Anonymous No.20110841]

>>20110815
>>20110823
It's what they melt thick nails in in assorted YouTube videos.
Also occasionally some guy in S&M pornhub videos steaming.

[Anonymous No.20110855]

>>20110815
hello physicist/engineer how much is 70k btu in kw?

[Anonymous No.20110876]

>>20110855
Is that some kind of gas stove thing?
Nobody in 1st world cares about that!

[Anonymous No.20110947]

>>20110823
Anything like this would be running on two legs, so 220(practical)-240(ideal). It's still 46A per leg, but stove plugs are rated for that.

[Anonymous No.20110966]

>>20110947
Yeah. Here it also runs on those two legs. Doubled of course.

[Anonymous No.20111002]

>>20110855
NTFizzisist but I can give a really over-reaching "ideal" You starting up a crab restaurant?
>All super rough
>1BTU BP = 1055J
>1W induction = 3.4J
>Gas efficiency = 40%
>Induction efficiency = 90%
So, your 70kBTU cauldron scalder, with an appropriately sized cauldron on both burners (50k outer, 20k inner ring) is approx...
>29.5MJ
Using the 20k inner ring only (still over that entire inner ring, looks to be about a foot across):
>8.5MJ
On a 10kW induction hob (which... 10k to one burner? sounds not right to me)
0.3MJ

The crab vaporizer wins this easily, but... but... that's efficiency over the full burner. Using less of the burner isn't a 1:1 efficiency loss. If you use this to boil that pot of water, it will probably do it slightly faster, and you will have a very warm kitchen.

[Anonymous No.20111048]

>>20110966
So 23A per 240V leg... Oh you kays.

[Anonymous No.20111170]

What's an inexpensive stovetop kettle made in a west-aligned country? Gooseneck preferred
>what's inexpensive
the cheapest option that meets my size and origin requirements and will boil water unfailingly for decades or more.
>size
at least a pint

>hard mode: it has to look very cute.

[Anonymous No.20112101]

>>20111170
How much you pay?

[Anonymous No.20112672]

>>20104809
Anon, the point isn't to save the planet. The point is to reduce standard of living, because they hate life and hate you more. The root motivation of all climate policy is flagellation.

[Anonymous No.20112695]

>>20104809
>america could be running on clean electricity right this very second but the fossil fuel lobbyists refused because the word nuclear is frightening to their profits
Fixed that for you. Do you really think a bunch of hippies protesting could have prevented the transfer to nuclear if the people with power actually wanted the change to happen?

[Anonymous No.20112703]

>>20100661
give me one that conforms to the bottom of a round bottom wok and I'm sold

[Anonymous No.20112784]

>>20100840
3 phases, 10kw is pretty much spot on 16A which is the standard here
>1,7x400x16x0,9=9792
It limits the total output power to 10kw

[Anonymous No.20112793]

>>20100840
Amps don’t stack like that retard, you’d put it on a 2 pole 50 amp breaker like your dryer and most electric ranges are already on

[Anonymous No.20112809]

>>20104809
>nooo you have to build nuclear power plants
>I don't care about the nuclear waste or the meltdowns
>We NEED to be more like Georgia who wasted 40 billion dollars on nukes that will never make their money back
based retard

[Anonymous No.20112820]

>>20100661
Gas stoves are outperformed even by this wonder from Clay country.
>>20100705
>Gas works with over 97 percent of the cookware in existence. Induction does not.
Yep, that's a problem.
I think instead of pushing 10kW into poor little stainless pan, it might be a better idea to figure out GaN or SiC transistor based stove that can run at higher frequency that would allow you to use any cookware. Stainless at least, idk about aluminium or copper.
>>20107242
>Gas will always be better than induction because. Gas creates a heat zone below the pan that acts as a heat buffer to keep the pan temp constant after adding ingreadents.
Gas heats up the air in the room, increasing the cost of air conditioning and making cooking unbearable.
Induction (proper one, not shitty one transistor resonant circuit used in shit like pic related. With half bridge or full bridge), gives you precise control of power, instant, with no delay. Most stoves also have temperature feedback, which even works reasonably well on fucking $18 cooktop from zheng.

[Anonymous No.20112826]

>>20100667
lulz, flammable gas pipes in the streets

[Anonymous No.20112831]

>>20110815
I think this stove has fucking lithium batteries in it lol.
>>20110855
70kbtu is 20 kW.
But since its gas, efficiency is 30% or so. So with discount it is 6kW on the pan.
Induction is 80% efficient or so (depends, but shtitiest ones are), you'd need 7.5kW induction stove to get this kind of power.

[Anonymous No.20112836]

>>20100979
Fact that you already have it.
Copper is just expensive.
Aluminium is dirt cheap, but it belongs in trash because teflon belongs in trash.

What really sucks is that not all stainless works on the induction stove. It has to have low grade stainless bottom, otherwise it wont heat at all.

[Anonymous No.20112878]

>>20101188
>hot water heater
Idk, i have only cold water heater.

[Anonymous No.20113100]

>>20101987
>where do you live that has a 3 Phase domestic supply?
basically the whole Europe

[Anonymous No.20113109]

>>20101129
This is a very yuropoor post.

[Anonymous No.20113120]

>>20102244
>This is peak stove
>You will never convince me otherwise
ok, let me try:
1) inefficient as fuck, worst thermal inertia of all
2) poorest heat transfer of all three options (gas/electric/induction) apart from nuclear power
3) smells when hot
4) serious risk of burn
5) inherently unsafe around flammable materials (same as gas desu, with even more thermal inertia issues)
6) did I mention thermal inertia (both ways)?

[Anonymous No.20113121]

>>20104809
Remind me. Where do you want to put the nuclear waste?

[Anonymous No.20113137]

>>20104755
>That fucker is using 10kW of wall power, and even from a 240v source that's cranking more than the 30 amps allowed on residential circuits
Let me introduce to you the superior concept of domestic 3-phase supply, already available as a standard in developed countries

[Anonymous No.20113161]

>>20113121
Northern Canada. Nobody lives there.

[Anonymous No.20113166]

>>20113137
We've got 50A 240V (2 leg) dryer and stove circuits. Knoblet's just being a knoblet.

[Anonymous No.20113202]

>>20100840
the wef expects you to use 4 burners at 10K watts. AHAHAHAH there is no cheap energy except in China!!!!

they think a few rich westerners can take on an entire population of rich chinese.

[Anonymous No.20113271]

>>20100670
ever heard about cleaning?

[Anonymous No.20113315]

>>20113202
>expects you to use 4 burners at 10K watts. AHAHAHAH there is no cheap energy
>mutt education
the energy to heat a pot of water doesnt suddenly change due to a stronger stovetop
>mutt unironically thinks Energy = Power

[Anonymous No.20113544]

>>20113271
I will never be a woman.

[Anonymous No.20113752]

>>20113544

[Anonymous No.20113832]

>>20102987
Because these people don't cook.

[Anonymous No.20113844]

>>20112826
I hate this fucker and his stupid marshmallow faggot cartoon

[Anonymous No.20113939]

>>20100661
Had these in college.
The sound of the magnet gets right in your ear, sounds like tinitus.

[Anonymous No.20114157]

>>20111002
Gas Gas Gas

[Anonymous No.20114167]

>>20112695
So it wasn't the usual useful idiots agitating on behalf of the "fossil fuel lobby"?

[Anonymous No.20114241]

Induction is fucking fantastic. The only downside is it stops non-Americans being able to dab on Americans for not having electric kettles because an induction kettle takes about the same time to boil water.

[Anonymous No.20114248]

>>20102175
>>20102987
>>20113832
You fucks don't make pasta or rice or noodles or boiled/mashed/roast potatoes? Boiling is a daily occurrence for me.

[Anonymous No.20114295]

>>20114157

[Anonymous No.20114315]

>>20114241
We have electric kettles, they just take 3x as long to do their thing.

[Anonymous No.20114371]

>>20100661
After buying a steel pan, my concern now is performance heating while temperature has warped the pan. I don't want to be forced to cast iron only (And I don't trust that won't warp eventually either).

Also get an electric kettle.

[Anonymous No.20115295]

it's normal to have 400vac at home. could ameribros make 400vac with several picrel?

[Anonymous No.20115879]

>>20102850
>Never met a woman

[Anonymous No.20115890]

>>20102850
>Has only read about children, woke up at 20 with no memories

[Anonymous No.20115899]

>>20115295
no, they only have two phase-shifted lines in the entire home

[Anonymous No.20115949]

>>20100661
that'll be 2,999.99 plus tip plus tax

[Anonymous No.20115951]

>>20102860
City water tastes like diarrhea regardless of what your cope is

[Anonymous No.20115971]

>>20100661
i will use gas until the last wisp of it comes out of my line.
and then i will use a wood fire.
making things hot? yes go with electric
want to cook? fire, doesnt matter where the fire comes from, fire is always better for actually cooking food.
always has been, always will be.

[Anonymous No.20115974]

>>20115951
so you live in africa? tell me about it.

[Anonymous No.20115979]

>>20106076
nothing? it makes ME happy when i do it, thats not nothing.

[Anonymous No.20116029]

>>20115979

[Anonymous No.20116531]

>>20105818
Good stainless steel gear should be fine, carbon steel too. Aluminium and any kind of nonstick will probably get damaged though. Copper I dont know, it wont melt or anything but it might flex more easily or even bend? I wouldnt risk it on full blast. Its not for that anyways. Keep in mind that as long you have a liquid in the pan it's difficult to overheat it as the evaporating water will "steal" the energy from the system.

[Anonymous No.20116612]

>>20101859
DONT DO THIS IT CREATES COLONEL MUSTER GAS

[Anonymous No.20116613]

>>20101859
kek based retard

[Anonymous No.20116759]

>>20106076
it does something, it causes the butter to burn and bitter making the food worse. when I see someone baste somthing (who is not a >50y old chef, they are extremely superstitious) I assume they are retarded and don't know how to cook.

[Anonymous No.20116796]

>>20110754
But then you could just have a regular gas stove and a portable induction plate separately. Or a good electric kettle...

[Anonymous No.20116798]

>>20116796
Why have a stove at all when you can just have portable gas burners

[Anonymous No.20116801]

>>20116798
thats retarded thats why

[Anonymous No.20116802]

>>20116612
bro you cant post rekt videos on /ck/, that stuff goes to /gif/

[Anonymous No.20116815]

>>20116801
So is having a portable induction plate nearby just for heating water.

[Anonymous No.20116839]

>>20116815
I don't see why, its more convenient this way. You get an extra place on your main stove which you use more often and you can use the plate completely separately to quickly boil water but also for stuff like making stock or braises for half a day out of the way in a corner of your kitchen (or even outside).

[Anonymous No.20116844]

>>20116839
I guess it's less relevant to me because I rarely use all 4 burners on my stove at the same time. And I boil water basically every day.

[Anonymous No.20116857]

>>20115295
Not with standard wiring... however...
Not sure about Ameribros, but KKKanadians usually have access to transformer taps beyond the standard delta 240 - for a price. We can get a 600/347 service if we can justify putting a device that requires it in our homes (usually the answer would be no - nobody needs a 600V motor in their house). I believe the standard for similar equipment in the US is 480/208V.

[Anonymous No.20118476]

>>20103171
can do pretty much the same with an electric grill made for yakitori inside