/tea/ Nan Nuo Shan Edition

[Anonymous No.20095605]

This thread is for discussing teas, tisanes, and other herbal infusions.

info: types of tea, where to get tea, how to brew tea
https://pastebin.com/80GeeXJV

previous thread: >>20080816

[Anonymous No.20095618]

>>20095611
factory ripe is cheap and consistent. gotta say though I've had more than a kilo of it this year and will probably take a bit of a break from it, it can get a bit samey
might buy the Peak Vulture meme cake when that comes around

[Anonymous No.20095620]

>20095611
>Factory ripe is not good
Factory ripe is the only ripe you should buy (99.7% of ripe is mediocre and the stuff that isn't isn't worth paying for)

[Anonymous No.20095636]

My farmer leaf order i was complaining went on walkabout decided to show up today.
Hitting the fall lao man e but don't consider this tasting notes, im sick and i need to change my water filter.

[Anonymous No.20095674]

>>20095636
It tastes like bulang, bitter quickly turns sweet, some horse sweat/leather kinda vibes, some
slight green tea taste, a few quick brews have me sweating. Decent hit of bitterness.
I will post a more coherent tasting in a few days but so far im happy.

[Anonymous No.20095692]

>>20095636
Finally some fucking flavor that lasts for more then 10 seconds
Im sorry young sheng chan, i won't abandon you for ripe hags again

[Anonymous No.20095714]

>>20095692
Based, also love them young shengs (7-14yo only)

[Anonymous No.20095764]

>all these young sheng enjoyers
>tfw no /tea/ friend that shares my passion for fossilized and mouldy liu bao tea from the 70s
God this hurts. What's the point in buying all these delicious mycotoxins if there's no one to share them with?
Btw, tomorrow morning i'm going to enjoy a liu bao sample from the 90s enriched with mould and spiderwebs.

[Anonymous No.20095770]

what happens if i drink a cup of 'coca tea' in colombia? do i just have a heart attack right there on the spot or become enraged or something

[Anonymous No.20095784]

>>20095770
Not much, just brewed in hot water you don't extract much of the alkaloids. It's probably just a mild stimulant. The proper way to get a buzz off coca teabags is to open the bag and add a small amout of lime paste and then stick it in your cheek like q big pouch of chewing tobacco. Even that isn't going to approach the buzz you get from bumping a scoop of straight coke.
I think the locals down in Columbia walk around with huge wads of dried leave and lime paste stuffed in their cheeks like chipmunks.

[Anonymous No.20095810]

>>20095784
not so bad i guess but i still regret drinking it... i'm someone who has made an effort to never even try weed
i guess this plant has some history behind it but every country seems to have its meme drug plant be it kratom or whatever 'betel nut' bullshit people are sucking on too, and i dont want to be yet another person addicted to something like that

[Anonymous No.20095824]

>>20095810
Civilization occurred because people wanted to drink alcohol. If you want another high, get addicted to running or high intensity exercise.

[Anonymous No.20095841]

Finally transcended into peak smug with my full auto temp and steep time controlled tea maker.
You don't dick around with cumbersome teaware based on ancient Chinese traditions, do you?

[Anonymous No.20095851]

>>20095841
sovlless

[Anonymous No.20095861]

>>20095764
Pcloud sent me some fantastic 02 liu bao a while back. Deliciously dank.

[Anonymous No.20095868]

>>20095841
So its a knockoff breville?

[Anonymous No.20095876]

Where's somewhere someone who's never really drank tea before can get a nice selection of samples, preferably somewhere us based so i don't have to wait half a year for it to ship.

[Anonymous No.20095879]

>>20095841
That's a lot of tech to mask skill issues

[Anonymous No.20095882]

>>20095876
https://yunnansourcing.us/collections/curated-tea-samplers

[Anonymous No.20095952]

>>20095841
>all those mechanical points of failure
>nothing gets repaired in the western world, only thrown out
ah yes very smug enjoy buying a new kettle when it breaks, consumer

[Anonymous No.20095953]

>>20095841
Looks like more work and more mess
Literally pointless

[Anonymous No.20095961]

>>20095882
I wish the us site for yunnansourcing didn't have everything in 100g bags minimum. I should have bought a sampler but I kind of wanted to make my own sampler with small gram bags. I accidentally bought 3 bags of black gold bi luo chun instead 1 bag and maybe 2 random things to try.

[Anonymous No.20095973]

>>20095961
Browse YS to pinpoint what you want and then take a look at dragonteahouse.
They usually have 25g loose tea and free shipping.
You should be able to get a lot of samples this way to get general idea.
Saving $30 on YS shipping is worth like 4-5 samples.

[Anonymous No.20095978]

>>20095973
>dragonteahouse
Never heard of it. Why isn't it in the pastebin?

[Anonymous No.20095997]

>>20095978
Don't know but I tried them and had no issues.
You also won't get jewed on shipping/vat compared to other options so if you don't want something super specific, you just want to try some stuff out, it's usually worth take a look there.

[Anonymous No.20096025]

>>20095770
No, it just gets you a bit stimulated. It's not strong unless refined into funny powder form.

[Anonymous No.20096038]

>>20095978
NTA. Because a lot of their pricing is to put it politely inconsistent (a lot of stuff is expensive for no reason), which is why they are controversial here and why I personally don't think they're a good newbie recommendation.
Yunnan Sourcing is an ecommerce dinosaur with a lot of annoying 'quirks', so I understand the frustration with them. However they do have by far the most extensive set of sample packs available. My personal experience when I was starting out was that randomly choosing samples often worked out poorly. But we all have to pay some tuition after all.

[Anonymous No.20096114]

>>20095764
>eh? are you seriously choosing some 30 year old hag when you could drink me instead? disgusting...

[Anonymous No.20096117]

>>20095764
In solidarity, I might drink my 90s liu bao today
Though I admit I've been drinking mostly young raw for the past month or two

[Anonymous No.20096129]

>>20095841
After reviewing this webm very carefully I have come to the conclusion that something something about diapers something something neckbeard, insert random insult something scat related yada yada yada posters here don't know true tea blah blah blah something about white2tea real vendors are too obscure and controversial so can't post them blah blah

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

[Anonymous No.20096143]

>>20095997
Thanks, checking it out.
>>20096038
Yeah it looks like one of their 30 gram signature teas is the price of a huge bag of tea on other sites, it's odd. Maybe it's special somehow I dunno.
>>20096114
I laughed at this a bit too much, I should make some tea.

[Anonymous No.20096160]

>>20095868
nah, its an evolution on Brevilles design.
My Gastroback has a proper dot matrix display and goes as low as 50°C. Some others start at 80°C. Other than the Breville, mine has the lift mechanic outside of the kettle which makes it easier to clean.
Its a well made machine.

[Anonymous No.20096171]

>>20096143
Dragonteahouse has horrid prices for some brands. Like their Haiwan cakes for example, 3x the price they should be. It's strange. But some others are well priced.

[Anonymous No.20096176]

Should I get an "easy" gaiwan? Or a small tea pot? Gaiwans look cheaper though. I hurt my hand recently so there's no way I can try regular gaiwan style.

[Anonymous No.20096185]

I'm looking for resources on the different types of heicha, especially their history and their original purpose and method of preparation. Anyone know of a website or books about this topic?

[Anonymous No.20096191]

>>20096176
have you used a gaiwan already? using a gaiwan is not hard at all, it takes like one day to learn how to use it and not burn your hand. if you can not grab firmly with your hand right now, i would get an easy gaiwan, not a small teapot.

[Anonymous No.20096194]

>>20096191
Grabbing firmly is not going to happen hahahaa. Thanks anon, I'll look for an easy gaiwan.

[Anonymous No.20096207]

>>20096160
Its breville/sage, but cheaper. Thought all their shit looked very similar.

[Anonymous No.20096210]

I like Xiaguan Tibetan Flame. Cheap brick that hits the spot. I am happy.

[Anonymous No.20096219]

>>20096176
Consider a tea cupping set too. I use one as my daily driver. Easier to clean than ost teapots, less tricky to use than a gaiwan.

[Anonymous No.20096226]

>>20096219
I have no idea what that is. I'll look it up.

[Anonymous No.20096227]

>>20096194
i hope your hand heals quickly anon. enjoy your tea.

[Anonymous No.20096233]

>>20095764
Where does one pick up all these hag heicha anyway. The first place I think of is purple cloud but the shipping out of america is like $60.

[Anonymous No.20096244]

>>20095978
>Never heard of it. Why isn't it in the pastebin?
dth is an old site
They aren't in the pastebin because they are essentially a slightly curated tabao buying agent but with extremely inflated prices. Apparently their prices are somewhat less inflated recently then they used to be for some of the stuff they have listed. They might have actually been in the pastebin like 5 years ago i can't remember.

[Anonymous No.20096248]

>>20096210
I need to free up some room and buy another stack :) I also want to try some of the super cheap white tea bars on awazon but 2.4kg blind might be a poor choice.
http://www.pu-erhtea.com/TeaDetails.aspx?TeaID=1054

[Anonymous No.20096256]

>>20096244
>They might have actually been in the pastebin like 5 years ago i can't remember.
I think so because that sounds around the time I visited /tea/ once, checked the pastebin, then got too busy to order tea.
I'm not buying this but it's cute.

[Anonymous No.20096272]

>>20096233
Good question
Essence of tea has a couple old liubaos but you will pay dearly for them.
Sometimes teas we like has an aged liubao
The jade leaf in taiwan has some old liuan
https://thejadeleaf.com/collections/puer/products/90s-liu-an-tea?variant=43758975615150

[Anonymous No.20096292]

>>20096272
>Essence of tea has a couple old liubaos but you will pay dearly for them.
Pretty remarkable they have some 50s liubao, I doubt I'll ever afford it but cool to know it's available.

I forgot KTM stocks some 90s and 80s stuff, some of it suspiciously cheap.

[Anonymous No.20096300]

Where the fuck is the anon with the Tao boa order? He had a golden needle or dragon pillar he said he was going to review.

[Anonymous No.20096322]

>>20096300
He posted about it a thread or two ago

[Anonymous No.20096331]

>>20096322
Did he enjoy it? I want to get it but I can just get factory ripe too lol. I have tried one premium dayi and it's good but it's not much better. I would say it's different and the flavor was richer but is it better? The taste seemed fuller so yeah.

[Anonymous No.20096340]

>>20096322
Also, when you get closer to the center or the tea cake, regular steeping doesn't seem to work since the tea is so compressed. I now have to boil the leaves. Lol.

[Anonymous No.20096356]

>>20096292
>I forgot KTM stocks some 90s and 80s stuff, some of it suspiciously cheap.
My personal completely uninformed belief is that those 80/90s baskets with the revolutionary imagery on them are probably some old batches of low grade or ungraded farmer liubao that someone bought and repackaged in those small baskets. Based on thr way the chinks price anything else from the 80s i would expect a few extra zeros on those prices if someone could tie together a convincing lineage for those teas.
I could be totally wrong and im guessing the tea has some age on it but it doesn't look like it was steamed and compressed into the baskets originally, so it was probably transferred from large 50kg baskets to those smaller ones at somepoint.
Any way i still wanna try some im down with a nice rustic liubao.
Those baskets specifically are really the only thing ive seen on ktm that seem a bit off to me, who knows, maybe it's legit. Maybe he tried it in thinks its good so he decided to sell it anyways.

[Anonymous No.20096359]

>>20096226
one of these

[Anonymous No.20096369]

>>20096292
>some of it suspiciously cheap
it's probably authentic, just some low grade stuff made for mine workers

[Anonymous No.20096389]

>>20096356
Maybe im just conditioned to think tea with old communist imagery on it is fake because those cultural revolution bricks are the stereotypical fake puer you see sold on every sketchy store.

[Anonymous No.20096480]

>>20096248
Hahah fuck, that's a lot of tea

[Anonymous No.20096503]

>>20096248
$2 for a 2 brick sample. Gotta try that out.
Bet it simmers up pretty good

[Anonymous No.20096538]

>>20096503
It seems like they've taken off the option to buy singles of the cheap cakes now. Its either tongs, tongs+1 or ~100g samples now. I was going to buy a cake of everything under $10 but they fucked it all up now. I really wanted the $7 white cake so those little bars are the next best thing.

[Anonymous No.20096598]

Are there any good tea trays that are really hard to break? I'm a dropmaxxed clumsycel, as zoomers would say.

[Anonymous No.20096621]

>High Mountain Red Ai Lao Mountain Black Tea
Smells like the fair grounds, so maybe hay or something? It tastes like it smells too, it's odd.

[Anonymous No.20096797]

>>20096598
yeah that sounds like something they would say. how are you not breaking gaiwans constantly? are you the one that orders those cheap $3 ones from china town in bulk? other anons might have better insight but i find it unlikely a plastic one from ali would break easily https://www.aliexpress.us/w/wholesale-gongfu-tea-tray.html?spm=a2g0o.home.search.0

[Anonymous No.20096802]

>>20096538
But really what is an $8 sheng cake going to taste like? My curiosity is overwhelming.

[Anonymous No.20096840]

>>20096802
The $8 Menghai? Its bretty good.

[Anonymous No.20096843]

Tea is not food

[Anonymous No.20096856]

>>20096843
Wrong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lahpet

[Anonymous No.20096860]

>>20096843
Wrong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism

[Anonymous No.20096861]

>>20096797
>>20096598
The ali plastic/bamboo ones are pretty sturdy, I have one and I'm also in my clumsy retard arc.
But, I had to coat the bamboo struts underneath the top in epoxy, they soaked up water and didnt dry sufficiently between uses. So I don't know if I can recommend it.

[Anonymous No.20096906]

>>20096860
Religious Jews either make ultra strong tea before the shabbos so that they can water down portions later, or they make it grandpa style. Making it the normal western ways during the shabbos is against the rules.

[Anonymous No.20096964]

>>20095841
>he has to manually pour water into the kettle by hand like a caveman
lmao git gud scrub

[Anonymous No.20096977]

>>20096906
>Religious Jews either make ultra strong tea before the shabbos so that they can water down portions later,
like a zarvaka? was this tradition influenced by russian jews? i never knew about that.

[Anonymous No.20097062]

>>20096977
It might have been. The idea is that, since some people consider making tea a form of cooking, it is most practical to make a strong batch ahead of time and use it as needed.
Those that make tea fresh can't use teabags, strainers, pots, whatever because there is a rule against unnecessarily separating things. But you can make it grandpa style.

[Anonymous No.20097222]

Anons have you seen this mutton fat jade porcelain material? I saw some teaware made out of it and from the pictures it looks really pretty. I tried googling it but it brought up a post about someone using bleach on it which is all kinds of cursed.

[Anonymous No.20097243]

>>20097222
I have a mutton fat porcelain teapot, its cool, its got a matt textured surface instead of being glossy and shiny.
You can find some on aliexpress sheeps fat might get you better/more results then mutton fat but try both when searching.

[Anonymous No.20097250]

>>20097243
*matte textured surface
almost like its sandblasted or something

[Anonymous No.20097267]

>>20097243
This stuff is way less expensive on aliexpress than YS, it even looks similar huh. I wonder if it's food safe.

[Anonymous No.20097295]

>>20097267
Im not particularly concerned about teaware on aliexpress. Stay away from the dirty fake antiques and obviously decorative stuff and its all fine.
YS can be a pricey place to get teaware, they source some stuff direct from artists but some of the more mass produced goods they have are marked up a bit.
Im not a huge proponent of spending a lot of money on teaware, maybe i would feel different if i was less broke.

[Anonymous No.20097321]

>>20097295
>Stay away from the dirty fake antiques and obviously decorative stuff and its all fine.
Oh okay, I don't really want designs or anything anyway. Do you think the white unpainted ones are fine?
>Im not a huge proponent of spending a lot of money on teaware, maybe i would feel different if i was less broke.
Yeah, I understand. I'm just looking around for now although these aliexpress prices are tempting, not that I've ever bought anything from there before.

[Anonymous No.20097569]

>>20097321
Yes, anything that's typical teaware is fine. It doesnt need to be plain white.
You specifically want to avoid things that look like this, with the paint on top of the glaze and in this design style, or again fake antiques that are visibly dirty.
The stuff from stores that mostly sell cups and teaware and plates and shit that are just regular old tableware are fine.
Also i don't suggest cheap clay teaware, i don't think its unhealthy to use, but it will probably mute the taste of the tea you put in it.

[Anonymous No.20097607]

'Avin some cheeky naka instead of sleeping

[Anonymous No.20097639]

>>20097569
Thanks for the info! I'm not touching clay teaware, I'm too new for that kind of thing. I checked the pastebin and I think I'm going to grab a porcelain teapot from GraceTeawares and maybe a fairness pitcher. Looking at this shop is making me feel ultra nostalgic and definitely reminds me of antique stores grandpa used to drag me around to. Anyway, it looks like these teapots have holes before it turns into the spout, I guess as a filter? That's pretty smart. I've been sitting here a but mulling over what I want exactly but I'll probably go with the two things I mentioned earlier.
I really appreciate all the info this thread gives, especially to a noob like me, I love you anons.

[Anonymous No.20097714]

>>20097639
> Anyway, it looks like these teapots have holes before it turns into the spout, I guess as a filter?
Yeah its so you can just throw the leaves in the pot without needing to use a brew basket to hold them.
Cheers

[Anonymous No.20097742]

>>20095861
>>20096117
A toast to you, based liu bao enjoyers!
>>20096114
Damn brat! Need aging correction!
>>20096233
Taobao
>>20096300
Sorry anon. I mentioned back then that i wanted to air out these teas for at least a week because actually reviewing them. I might try out Dragon Pillar again this evening.
>>20096356
Those liu bao baskets are dirt cheap on Taobao. A 90s basket is around 300 yuan.

[Anonymous No.20097745]

>>20097742
Crap, i forgot the picture.

[Anonymous No.20097748]

Now that I think about it, I'm surprised there aren't any enthusiast tea brands that have adopted weeb aesthetics the way things like headphones have.

[Anonymous No.20097766]

>>20097714
It's crazy how such a small thing is a big quality of life improvement.
>>20097748
You mean like cat ears on headsets? I can see it now, bags with characters on them. Reimu's favorite tea! Or something else?

[Anonymous No.20097776]

>>20097766
Like those Chinese tech brands that create waifus for their product lines.

[Anonymous No.20097779]

>>20097766
Pretty sure he's talking about all the chifi waifus they plaster on every new iem these days.

[Anonymous No.20097786]

>>20097742
>>20097745
Dammit, now i forgot to post the review.
Dank liu bao from the 90s:
The smell is hard to describe. A little bit of smoke, spicy, maybe some incense. Actually it's how i imagine an old tea shop from Wuzhou would smell like.
The taste is amazing. It doesn't have any of the punchy woody bitterness of the younger ripes. It's smooth and sweet and afterwards it leaves a little bit of bitterness and astringency in the mouth. Also some medicinal herb in there.

[Anonymous No.20097790]

>>20097776
>>20097779
Oh, I see. They're only on the packaging too, weird! I know someone that would fall for this.

[Anonymous No.20097927]

>>20097790
I also know someone that would fall for this

[Anonymous No.20098026]

>>20097748
>I'm surprised there aren't any enthusiast tea brands that have adopted weeb aesthetics the way things like headphones have
Already a thing.

[Anonymous No.20098115]

>>20097748
one of moychay's teaware artists occasionally does anime paintings on their teaware and sometimes anime designs are commissioned for yinchen studio's yixing teapots, maybe anime isnt that popular in china (especially not with the generation that drink most of the tea?) so its never taken off?

[Anonymous No.20098242]

>>20097607
that the FarmerLeaf one? any thoughts?
the CSH Naka I got has some power to it, would be odd to sleep after that

[Anonymous No.20098298]

>>20098115
This looks cursed. Maybe it would look better on a regular teapot.

[Anonymous No.20098327]

>>20097748
Some enterprising anon should buy a bunch of funky ripe cakes off taobao and get them rewrapped with waifu pics.

[Anonymous No.20098335]

>>20098115
Anime isn’t really very popular anywhere.
It’s a niche preserve of gay men and child molesters.

[Anonymous No.20098339]

>>20098335
You don't have to like it but this is painfully retarded

[Anonymous No.20098365]

>>20097607
why are you hoarding it all on a paper plate

[Anonymous No.20098385]

>>20098335
Teenage girls with eating disorders as well.

[Anonymous No.20098523]

Back with another side by side ripe puer blind tasting, cheap ones this time: 2019 Dayi 7572 from KingTeaMall (15cents/gram), ’23 Lumber Slut from W2T (9c/g), and ’09 Menghai Purple ripe 7342H from Yee On Tea (7c/g).
4g of each brewed in 45mL gaiwans at 100°C. I did 2 flash steep rinses that were discarded, then 15s, 20s, 30s, 45s. I could have pushed at least one more infusion from each.
From left to right:
1 began with a pretty basic cheap ripe profile on the first steep, after that it had a kind of ashy wood note with a pretty average almost sweet ripe background.
2 was weak the first steep, I didn’t get much of anything out of it. Later steeps had the flavor I usually get from Hong Kong storage: damp basement, wet forest/ log, and a radish like vegetal note.
3 had the classic ripe taste. Sweet cherry and kind of buttery cookie dough.
They were all very similar at first but soon I was able to differentiate them.
The 7572 and Lumber Slut are great value and I enjoy them about equally as cheap daily drinkers when I’m at work or not in the mood for a more focused session. They’re both good teas in their own way, and my favorite just depends on my mood. For a classic ripe it’s the 7572, if I want to switch it up and have a ripe that’s a little different the L.S. is nice. I don’t think the 7342H has much going for it besides being cheap HK storage puer. I don’t really enjoy it all that much unless I brew it grandpa style, that’s the only way it gives me a decent thickness and a bit of ripe flavor. But still, it’s kind of boring and I usually reach for something else when I want grandpa style ripe, and when I want HK stored puer I’d rather have a sheng.

[Anonymous No.20098536]

>>20098523
Do you have someone else pour your tea? How do you not remember which is which?

[Anonymous No.20098629]

Been cruising on a session of Farmer Leaf's Autumn 2023 Yinpang Shan red. Seems to often be recommended here as a cheap toss-in when ordering from FL. I think it's solid as a daily drinker with some nice aroma notes. My journal entry:
____
4.2g/195F/5s

Dry leaf smells like a buttery creme and tangy berries (raspberry?). Wet leaf smells more like cranberry and wheat. A few infusions later, the wet leaf has a new note of...black pepper? Odd, but nice.

Low-medium thickness, low bitterness, low-medium astringency. Breadsy flavor; touch savory, with a subtle tangy berry aftertaste (maybe even a touch floral for a few infusions?). Simple, but well-balanced, with lovely leaf aromas. Good endurance and easy to infuse as well; solid daily drinker.

[Anonymous No.20098646]

Inside/Outside

[Anonymous No.20098660]

>>20098536
I put the little sticky notes with the tea name on the bottom of the presentation dishes when I weigh out the leaf, then I put them on a plate to carry them into my kitchen. After I put the teas into the gaiwans I set the dishes aside in the same order as the gaiwans and flip them once I'm done drinking.
I just try to break the cakes up evenly and don't pay attention to which dish is which when I put them on the plate or take them off.
I guess it would be better to have someone else do it for me but I really don't remember which is which and also >tfw no tea friends.

[Anonymous No.20098694]

>>20098629
This doesn't sound like black tea at all. No chocolate/roast notes?

[Anonymous No.20098726]

>>20098523
these blind tastings are fun
I also enjoy the numbered Dayi productions equally with Lumber Slut. Dayi always gives me vanilla pastry notes, Lumber Slut is a bit more smoky woody indeed
I wonder what material or processing they're doing for Lumber Slut. seems to be bigger, more fermented leaves than the Dayi recipes I've seen

[Anonymous No.20098733]

>>20098726
2dog's whole thing seems to be using higher grade mystery leaf and antiquated or rustic processes for ripes. Compare with Modern Witch and Tale Chaser for some very different ripe experiences.

[Anonymous No.20098741]

>>20098629
that sounds nicer than the 2021, maybe because it's more fresh. didn't get berry notes from that one, more of a dried apple
>>20098694
NTA, but the 2021 Yingpan Shan also lacked the typical dianhong chocolaty notes. it still tastes like black tea, just some slightly lower oxidized one and not typical robust dianhong

[Anonymous No.20098760]

>>20098733
I'd like to compare it with Peak Vulture because I'm a cheapskate
I also wonder about camphornough, since it's supposed to be similar to Slut.
Do you know where I can read more about white2tea's ripe production?

[Anonymous No.20098805]

Some Lumber Slut, brewed black as night.

[Anonymous No.20098806]

>>20098760
There's the one blogpost on what he means by small batch ripe, and the product descriptions for all the odder productions that blend styles, but that's about it.

[Anonymous No.20098842]

>>20098694
>No chocolate/roast notes?
Not especially. I'd say it leans into spice more than it does into sweetness, bitterness, or roastiness. It's good either way; more aroma-focused than flavor in my opinion, but good on both fronts, especially considering the cost.

[Anonymous No.20098843]

>>20098733
>antiquated or rustic processes for ripes.
I would be interested as to what true old school ripes were like. teaswelike sells a boutique production that is one tea shop owners interpretation of an old fashioned shou cake. They are out of stock right now but will likely get more in.
https://teaswelike.com/product/2008-dth-shou/

[Anonymous No.20098846]

>>20098843
I have no idea how the brightness levels on that pic got screwed up. Here is a direct link to the pic.
https://i0.wp.com/teaswelike.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/2008-DTH-Ripe-3-of-4.jpeg

[Anonymous No.20098858]

>>20098843
you can still buy early 2000s and late 90s ripe at not too horrid prices if you look around a bit. it's not like ripe is too old anyway, only being around since the 70s
I think smoke is more common in these older productions, right?

[Anonymous No.20098921]

As promised, Dayi Dragon Pillar Review:
Smell: the usual wood + some sour. forest fruit.
Taste: It does feel that it's higher quality material. There is some punchy bitterness, followed by a little bit of huigan. It does make me wonder if it is Banzhang material because the taste reminds me of some Bulang ripes i tried several months ago.

[Anonymous No.20098975]

>>20098921
Fermentation looks lighter as well, is it my colorblindness or do some of those wet leaves still look half green?

[Anonymous No.20099002]

>>20097569
Why do you want to avoid teaware like in the picture? All my stuff is in that vein, bought for like $2 apiece at an asian market. Am I going to get lead poisoning or something?

[Anonymous No.20099003]

>>20098975
The camera makes them look greener, but looking at it now many leaves are indeed lighter coloured.

[Anonymous No.20099049]

>>20099002
>Why do you want to avoid teaware like in the picture? All my stuff is in that vein, bought for like $2 apiece at an asian market. Am I going to get lead poisoning or something?
Its worth reading about what Chinese stuff typically has lead issues. In that case its that matte paint thats on top of the glaze that contains lead, its not sealed in by the glaze so it becomes an exposure risk.
Pic related are also pieces that have lead on them, again its the paint over the glaze that's the issue.
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/29/health/29ceramics.html

[Anonymous No.20099062]

>>20099049
I don't mean to imply I've had issues with lead, but I do want to point out that lead tests are very cheap and and very easy to do. They put your mind at ease for 50 cents a go.

[Anonymous No.20099070]

>>20099049
Pic related is the teaware. The paint definitely sits above the glaze, even on the inside of the cup; I can feel a difference in texture. Yes I know the picture is terrible.
Top left is a teacup, top right is another teacup made of unglazed (?) ceramic and with a weird broken glass pattern underneath either a glaze or more glass. Bottom is my gaiwan, minus saucer.
>>20099062
Would that just be amazon?

[Anonymous No.20099184]

>>20099070
Im not an expert by any means. I think a lot of the issues with lead ceramics from china come when stuff is made to be for decorative use only and that gets lost in translation somewhere along the way.
The stuff that you have looks like it's intended to be functional teaware for use and not decorative, it looks like your typical ceramics with applied transfer decal style decoration and not the kind of painted detailing that seems to be the issue. But it might be worth testing just so you don't have to worry about it. Even if any of those peices do test for lead i wouldn't lose sleep over it unless you are using the cups to drink lemon juice or some other highly acidic liquid.

[Anonymous No.20099190]

>>20099184
Good enough for me. I'll keep using them until the lead testers come in and then I'll report back.

[Anonymous No.20099192]

>>20099070
>>20099184
Repeating myself here but my gut instinct is that that stuff is all totally fine. The leaded stuff usually has a specific look to it.

[Anonymous No.20099425]

>>20098760
>>20098806
Theres some good pictures and a little info about 8weeks back on his ig. Small piles and bamboo cages with 200kg of leaf.
>thermometer in large shou pile to tell the fermenter when the internal temperature of the center has peaked. ideally you’ll separate and turn the entire pile when it hits the lower 60’s C, but this varies based on the goals of the maker

[Anonymous No.20099586]

Grandpa style Earth is pretty good. Like honey from a lion's skull. I could actually use a smaller mug, it's missing that intensity that I've caught myself chasing like a dragon.

[Anonymous No.20099596]

>>20095841
is it smug? I'm turbo autist about the temp I pour cold water into my water until it's just right as I temp it with a thermometer

[Anonymous No.20099606]

>>20099586
yeah ripes are like that. you start brewing them to look like black tea and after some time you have to get that tar-black thick as fuck stuff

[Anonymous No.20099615]

>>20095605
you guys ever travel to any tea producing areas? Some of the most beautiful areas I've ever been produce tea. I recommend Munnar in SW India and Thai Nguyen or Lam Dong provinces in Vietnam

[Anonymous No.20099708]

>>20099606
This one is a lighter ferment so I only expect fossilized amber or something resembling gravy.

[Anonymous No.20099752]

>>20099615
I've been mulling over a tea tourism trip to Yunnan and border regions. I wouldn't know where to start, though.

[Anonymous No.20099822]

>>20099615
Nah my European ass is too pussy to leave civilized world.
I just know the moment I leave Europe and eat some Asian food I will spend the whole trip on toilet. (Everyone has seen those Chinese food videos right?)
Maybe Japan could be safe but I'm really not a fan of green tea and those large plantations.

[Anonymous No.20099861]

>>20099752
>>20099615
From my work I get a month long payed sabbatical every five years where you'll get your usual salary, plus they'll play for plane tickets and a per diem if you travel somewhere you haven't been before. My wife and I were thinking of taking a guided tea tour through Yunnan and then crossing over into Vietnam when I get my first sabbatical.

[Anonymous No.20099878]

>>20099596
The controllers accuracy to approach the target temp is almost silly.
It turns the heating element off 10°C before target temp, waits until temperature stabilzes and turns it on again to heat a little more. That cycle repeats 10 times until target temp is reached dead on.
Pleasing to the temp weenie.

[Anonymous No.20100382]

>>20099596
Try not giving a shit - straight from the kettle mostly, if you need 80ish pour it into a cup and then into the gaiwan.
No difference, with the proviso I don't drink japanese greens and heard they're funny.
And don't believe the white tea needs low temps meme.

[Anonymous No.20100387]

>>20098646
Please don't live in the chicken coop. The turtle is cute!
>>20098660
Oh okay, doing it when you weigh it out makes way more sense.

[Anonymous No.20100403]

>>20099861
That's pretty amazing, what do you do?
Definitely use it for something cool like that.

[Anonymous No.20100418]

>>20098646
>tea pet
what a nifty little dude

[Anonymous No.20100530]

why isnt a giftcard for yunnansourcing digital? its an online store. wheres my fucking christmas present?

[Anonymous No.20100589]

>>20100530
That's surprising actually.

[Anonymous No.20100605]

I'm thinking about growing some cangshan mountain landrace sativa to pair with my sessions.

[Anonymous No.20100633]

>>20099596
>>20099878
I bought a Fellow kettle this summer and it's 100% worth it, if only for the fact that that someone who knew what they were doing programmed the PID or whatever they're doing for temperature targeting. The main benefit is not the temperature accuracy, although it's excellent and good for Japanese greens, but the keep warm function. Having water at the perfect temp whenever you want without having to push a button, wait, or think about it makes gongfu much more enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.20100695]

>>20100605
Growing landrace sativa is a fucking project, i mean if you have some experience under your belt and a good setup its doable but man. They can be super sensitive and get burned by your standard enriched soil mix, they can love to go hermaphrodite on you, strech in flower like fucking crazy 3-4x even, not want to finish even after 16+ weeks in flower.
I mean the end result will be really cool and something you basically never see on the commercial market but its definitely a big commitment.

[Anonymous No.20100724]

What tea should i buy if i like lavender? I just got my first tea strainer/basket and im ready to try some loose leaf teas

[Anonymous No.20100750]

>>20100724
Any Tieguanyin or Oriental Beauty, many other oolongs besides
For a black tea you could try https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/2021-yunnan-golden-spiral-black-chinese-tea-dianhong-red-single-bud-black-chinese-tea-250g-1

[Anonymous No.20100823]

>>20100695
I've got nothing but time baby. All organic, samsung leds etc etc. Need to reup on some interesting genetics, its cheap, and I'm pretty sure I almost bought something very similar years ago. I've been needing a big leggy motherfucker to practice training too. Could be good breeding stock at the very least
https://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/Yunnan_Dragon/Dragons_Flame_Genetics/
Getting back on topic, gave my dad some YS bulang ripe.
>tastes like fish

[Anonymous No.20100838]

>>20100750
>Oriental Beauty
nta but I'm fond of oolongs and have been interested in this one because of the bug-bitten leaves supposedly imparting a sweet, honey flavor. Would you say it's more floral than sweet or is it a good balance between both.

[Anonymous No.20100859]

>>20100838
Based on my experience when you're buying Oriental Beauty you are much more likely to get a floral-heavy tea than a tea which is sweet. I've never tried high end OB though.

[Anonymous No.20100985]

Some bro in many threads ago told me to grow my own organic chamomile, 2 weeks and o see progress!!

[Anonymous No.20100987]

My teaswelike order made it through customs, but the last USPS tracking update was "In Transit to Next Facility" on December 13th.
The pos USPS website tells me to "try again later" every single time I try to submit a help request or missing mail search.
FML

[Anonymous No.20100988]

>>20100985
I tried it but I didn't like how it attracted flies so I only did it once

[Anonymous No.20100998]

>>20100988
I'm building a raised bed with mesh once they're set to be transferred

[Anonymous No.20101033]

>>20100987
Try calling them.

[Anonymous No.20101066]

>>20100987
Jeeze, usually once it makes it to the us it will probably get there.
You should probably also email teas we like and see what they say

[Anonymous No.20101136]

>>20100987
USPS refused to let me summit a missing mail request online last time I tried. I had to do some trick to fix it. Try putting the package contents as "unknown". I think that is what I did. You can also try to call or visit the post office.

[Anonymous No.20101165]

>>20101136
Yup, anon should call. They're government workers and someone always answers.

[Anonymous No.20101239]

>>20101165
>someone always answers
That's a laughable proposition. My local USPS office didn't even have someone answering their phones for several months.

>they're government workers
Oh, you were just joking. No one thinks government workers are reliable.

[Anonymous No.20101241]

>>20101239
lmao

[Anonymous No.20101295]

>>20101239
The USPS went to complete shit about 3 weeks after the last presidential election. They are a bit better now then they were a year or two ago but they are still pretty shit. That said my local branch is quite responsive and helpful, shockingly so, i imagine my experience would be much different if i lived in a larger town or city.

[Anonymous No.20101747]

>>20099586
are you just describing the earth album or the tea. i might have to pick up to cake if there exists a tea that unbiasedly tastes like an earth album. καλή γραφές

[Anonymous No.20101801]

Do you pour your tea through a fine strainer?

[Anonymous No.20101807]

>>20101801
nope. i just drink the dust and leaves. i dont even own a cha hai. if i fuck up holding my gaiwan and i end up with too many leaves, ill just pour them back into my gaiwan

[Anonymous No.20101819]

>>20101801
Yes but only because sometimes I get busy and my tea will sit there for an hour or more. I don't need a tea leaf making the taste even worse.

[Anonymous No.20101822]

>>20101801
Nah, I don't mind some tea particles. I started with yerba mate, where getting mouthfuls of dust is a regular occurrence

[Anonymous No.20101833]

anything from these white2tea and farmerleaf orders thats not worth getting? last chance before i order.

[Anonymous No.20101840]

>>20101833
Farmer leaf order seems fine to me, only samples so even if you don't like it much it's fine. For samples I would suggest trying more expensive cakes rather than the cheap ones you can buy easily. I posted about the yingpan shan in the last few weeks, if you like the classic young yunnan black taste you can drink it as you receive it but if you enjoyed the previous year I would wait for it. I haven't tried the fen shui ling OB but it's on my waiting list, the oolong back is delicious and the OB from Ailao was great too so hop eyou can write about it when you get it.

[Anonymous No.20101856]

>>20101833
farmerleaf order looks solid. only tea from the w2t order I've tried was Lumber Slut and it's good
I take it you like moonlight whites? I'm not a big white tea guy, but the summer 2022 Jingmai Moonlight was quite nice, had a good floral honey nuance to it

[Anonymous No.20101898]

Anyone get this? https://www.taiwanteacrafts.com/product/low-profile-classic-gaiwan/?v=fd4c638da5f8

Good for a first gaiwan? I'm worried I might not be able to grip it the non-hamburger way properly and I'd like to try out all grips. I can only get this one locally, though, and that makes it way cheaper.

[Anonymous No.20101907]

>>20101898
Hard to judge on the picture but looks fine outside of the "high" price for generic white porcelain. Just try a few times with cold water when cleaning it before first use it's really not that hard with little gaiwan. The only one i'm careful with is my large glass one because it can slip a bit with water.

[Anonymous No.20101926]

>>20101898
Should be fine. It is a little pricey though
If you're buying from that site, they also have an "everyday porcelain teapot" or something by that name which looks like a great, really practical design

[Anonymous No.20101929]

>>20101926
Talking about this one:
https://www.taiwanteacrafts.com/product/everyday-smaller-teapot/?v=9b7d173b068d

[Anonymous No.20101934]

Why does the chinese etsy shop from the pastebin need my phone number?
>>20101929
Pretty.

[Anonymous No.20101942]

>>20100403
I'm a baker, but I work in house for a big tech company.

[Anonymous No.20101963]

Okay, this is very good. Sweet, peach, some honeysuckle floral notes. I picked out peach as a flavor and then went back to read the actual website description for the first time...

"From the Guangdong province of China, our Almond Dancong oolong is made from a taorenxiang varietals.

Taorenxiang(peach pit fragrance) is technically a sub-type of xingrenxiangwhich translates as almond fragrance, but we're calling it almond anyhow because it's the more recognizable umbrella group."

Delightful.

[Anonymous No.20101966]

>>20101963
How big is that cup?

[Anonymous No.20101971]

>>20101966
50ml, gaiwan is 100ml, gong dao bei is much more.

[Anonymous No.20101976]

>>20101971
Every cup anons post looks huge. I guess it's because there's not much sense of scale in most images anons post. Camera tricks/perspective is a bitch.

[Anonymous No.20101981]

>>20101976
It's also a thick chunk of double walled porcelain, so the inside volume is much smaller than the actual volume of the cup as a whole.

[Anonymous No.20102074]

Can young sheng be brewed grandpa-style? I'm worried it will be too bitter.

[Anonymous No.20102096]

>>20102074
Absolutely it can. If you leave it for a long time it's gonna go bitter but if you nurse it pretty well it can still be a nice experience.

[Anonymous No.20102228]

>>20101934
probably for shipping reasons. Its common for shipping companies to need your phone number in case something goes wrong with the delivery

[Anonymous No.20102351]

>>20101963
Aw man I have always wanted to try the almond fragrance dan cong. It's on the list for a Spring order for sure.

[Anonymous No.20102874]

>>20095841
I don't get it. Does it maintain temp through brewing at least?

[Anonymous No.20102963]

https://youtu.be/w7jF78_dnXg
Is this true bros?

[Anonymous No.20102989]

>>20102963

[Anonymous No.20103006]

>>20102963
>>20102989
I'll reserve judgement until I hear what paulo poopypants thinks.

[Anonymous No.20103014]

>>20102963
They didn't even mention the pu burps

[Anonymous No.20103057]

>>20102963
Judging by the people slinging the stuff online, the health benefits include male pattern baldness, muscle loss, and same sex attraction.

[Anonymous No.20103114]

>>20102963
Looking at some papers it's all the usual microbione improvements stuff. Nothing major.
There are milion other foods/drinks that do something similar and I bet even better.

[Anonymous No.20103131]

>>20103114
yeah if you want to micronutrientmaxx then steamed green tea like sencha or something would probably be preferable
but honestly drinking tea for the health benefits is fucking stupid, just eat some spinach or something

[Anonymous No.20103180]

>>20102963
>>20103114
>>20103131
The healthiest thing tea can do for somebody is be a replacement for soda.
The second healthiest thing tea can do for somebody is encourage hydration.
Everything after that is dramatically less impactful.
>just eat some spinach or something
Indeed.

[Anonymous No.20103195]

nobody watched the video...

[Anonymous No.20103232]

>>20103195
i read the transcript and it was something something chakras something something china something something freemasonary judaism etc its probably all true youre welcome for the tldr

[Anonymous No.20103253]

>>20103195
I do not watch tea nerds.
All of them keep jerking about taste notes that don't exist and cha chi or how it's called.
Basically they are larping as wine fags which are insufferable.

[Anonymous No.20103408]

>>20103195
I watch those guys and have seen the video already.

[Anonymous No.20103439]

So now that the dust has settled
Not a lot of praise in the thread from people who made w2t orders this winter
Lots of nonplussed reviews and mediocrity
A few exceptions of course but i saw a whole lot of meh from people trying their shu and black friday cakes

[Anonymous No.20103478]

>>20103439
We're too busy sipping to post.

[Anonymous No.20103483]

>>20102963
Music sounds like 90s porn lol

[Anonymous No.20103702]

i stopped tea due to fluoride content
i miss it even though im feeling better without it

[Anonymous No.20103731]

>>20103702
im trying to hopefully completely calcifi my pineal gland so i dont have to deal with my mana sama tulpa anymore.

[Anonymous No.20103739]

>>20103702
The only documented cases of florosis from tea in the united states involve two different elderly women who were booth brewing hundreds of dollar store black teabags a day in a large pitcher. In china the only cases are in Tibetans and other steppe people who boil bricks of tea stems for hours before drinking them.
Sure there is fluoride in tea, especially from large scale commercial tea plantations but it's not really enough to be worth worrying about unless your tea consumption habits are unhinged.

[Anonymous No.20103741]

>>20103731
Based

[Anonymous No.20103934]

Does this count as tea wuth ana anime girl on it?
https://kingteaset.com/products/great-poet-2017-dr-puer-tea-mengku-early-spring-raw-puer-tea-cake-357g-free-shipping

[Anonymous No.20103973]

>>20101926
I'm not ordering from them, I'm considering the gaiwan because it's already imported by a local online shop. At 30€ it's the cheapest non-Aliexpress gaiwan i've found.

[Anonymous No.20104096]

>sick
>drink some cough syrup no problem
>drink a liter of green tea with honey the next day
>explosive diarrhea out the ass

???

[Anonymous No.20104629]

>>20102228
I guess that makes sense. It was weird that etsy didn't ask me for it when doing the shipping. Oh well, no big deal. Hopefully the 160mL teapot I ordered will be good.
>>20103253
That sounds like coffee nerds. They'll say the coffee tastes like X or Y and I'll buy it and it won't.
>>20103739
>drank over 700 mL the other day
>probably under 1.4 Liters but barely

[Anonymous No.20105387]

>>20103439
I like the Lumber Slut
the Snoozefest though, I don't love, it's just sort of alright. maybe it will get better in a year or so.
but I would never say this is a 40$/200 gram tea as the marketing claims. if I compare it to the CSH Naka, which was that price, it loses massively on all fronts
for the free dragonballs, 941 was boring but Veldt seemed pretty good, if maybe a little too astringent for me. in the future, I'd probably be more interested in white2tea's ripe than raw

[Anonymous No.20105436]

>>20103934
I guess. they even have the swirly glasses nerdy comedy relief from 2000s anime

[Anonymous No.20105442]

Does anyone know anything about medicinal teas? What are the most diuretic teas that still taste nice?

[Anonymous No.20105449]

>>20105442
caffeine is diuretic in general

[Anonymous No.20105473]

funny fact:
fermentation process of puer is so disgusting that it had to be kept secret that only a handful of people know

[Anonymous No.20105513]

>>20105442
Is ginger or mint a diuretic? Ginger tea is really tasty if you make it with fresh ginger.

[Anonymous No.20105743]

>>20095674
sounds like good stuff

[Anonymous No.20105843]

>Never tried oolong
>I'm still confused as to which oxidized or roasted oolong to try

[Anonymous No.20105873]

>>20105843
well you've got three main varieties of roasted oolong to try:
>dancong / phoenix oolong (a bit lighter roasted, highly fragrant, fruity, astringent)
>wuyi oolong / yancha (strongly roasted, chocolaty-mineralic, cookies)
>rolled roasted oolongs like dong ding or tie guan yin (these vary but are kind of honey-caramel a lot of the time)

[Anonymous No.20105912]

>>20105873
I'm saving this thanks. Do you think I should suck it up and get a sampler like this one? https://yunnansourcing.us/collections/curated-tea-samplers/products/introduction-to-chinese-oolong-tea-sampler

[Anonymous No.20105930]

>>20105912
enjoy your duck shit flavor

[Anonymous No.20106059]

>>20105912
haven't had any of these but yeah, it looks reasonable

[Anonymous No.20106128]

>>20105473
That's neither funny nor really factual.
Lots of agriculture is unpleasant, I'll give you that, though. The closer you look at how your food and drink gets made, the more it might disgust you.
t. work in agriculture

[Anonymous No.20106136]

>>20105912
I'm going to look at some more sites tomorrow or later this week.

[Anonymous No.20106256]

>>20105843
Wuyi, red robe shit is basically like weird vanillay shit.
I prefer very light roasted oolongs myself since it's about on par with green tea with its own complexity.

[Anonymous No.20106368]

Got an ear infection again and can barely taste my tea. Life truly is suffering.

[Anonymous No.20106476]

Farmer leaf threw in a sample of the 2021 jingmai ripe he was selling from princess of bulang tea factory. Fat whiff of pile smell when i open the sealed bag.
Not much of any pile smell on the wet leaf or in the cup.
More exciting then the cheap ripes ive been drinking lately. Brews up nice and dark, thick, a hint of bitterness, some gentle floral notes, good mouth feel and thickness.
https://www.farmer-leaf.com/collections/tea-archive/products/2021-jingmai-ripe
Its not for sale anymore so kind of a moot point.

[Anonymous No.20106483]

>>20106476
I had a Jingmai ripe some time ago. it had a floral and candy-like feature to it and some interesting mentholy aftertaste, but I missed the robustness of menghai area ripes

[Anonymous No.20106518]

>>20106483
Yeah the floral aspect is pretty apparent. Yeah its interesting that the texture is thick but it doesn't have that intense dark flavor notes that typically accompany that thickness.

[Anonymous No.20106846]

>>20102963
It made me want to want to buy a Subaru and some Birkenstocks.

[Anonymous No.20107541]

>>20106128
Homemade shou when?

[Anonymous No.20107565]

>>20107541
You first.

[Anonymous No.20107663]

>>20107565
Farmer leaf used to sell some micro batch shou. You can apparently make batches of only 10kg if you use a heater instead of relying on the pile heating itself up. https://www.farmer-leaf.com/products/jingmai-micro-batch-ripe-pu-erh
Maybe someone should make some ripe yerba mate...

[Anonymous No.20107702]

>>20107663
Yeah i guess there have been developments involving fermenting is baskets that have allowed people to make really small batches. Kind of an interesting endeavor.

[Anonymous No.20107749]

It's too late in the day to drink tea but I just got the chills thinking about how good the last tea I had was and how I need to get another tong of it.

[Anonymous No.20107763]

>>20107749
What kind of tea was it?

[Anonymous No.20107965]

>>20106368
Feel better soon, anon! Drink some ginger tea.

[Anonymous No.20108024]

>>20107749
It's never too late for tea. Embrace the leaf, reject the concept-of-time Menace.

[Anonymous No.20108161]

Looks like the taiwanteacrafts site is either down for maintenance or something happened, funny apache server page.

[Anonymous No.20108825]

Drinking the CSH Sheng Yun. It's grown on me, really classy Menghai blend with some nice honeyed florals, bitterness that turns into sweetness, hints of Bulang taste. Good stuff.

[Anonymous No.20109166]

is Haiwan 9978 representative of the broader Haiwan ripe house taste?
the prominent coffee and burnt caramel flavor with no vanilla is quite different from what I would expect from a Dayi production

[Anonymous No.20109357]

What's the tea equivalent of Panama Geisha?

[Anonymous No.20109380]

>>20109357
probably raw pu-erh from Lao Ban Zhang
but Yancha and Longjing from their respective core areas can get really expensive too. I can't imagine it's worth it for Longjing though, that seems more like a prestige thing than anything else. for raw pu-erh the terroir and local varietal does actually matter and the popularity of raw pu-erh blends enforces some degree of fixed price-quality ratio (though of course for super expensive super hyped areas there will always be big diminishing returns)

for Yancha you are also paying for the expertise of whoever's doing the roasting process too and Yancha competitions are a big thing, so that's similar to coffee in a way

[Anonymous No.20109412]

>>20109166
I only managed to try two productions from them so far so this is kinda weak information, but the 9988 brick I had didn't really have the distinct fruity taste of the 9978. But they weren't entirely dissimilar either.
I want to do a comparative tasting between those two and a Dayi and really see what's up.

[Anonymous No.20109431]

>>20109412
all Dayis I've had featured the vanilla pastry quality. some were also fruity
but 9978 is pretty different, doesn't have the vanilla at all. really makes me think of some fruity new wave coffee with just a bit of milk in it

[Anonymous No.20109461]

>>20103739
oh FUCK NO i love boiled dark tea. is it cuz theyre drinking shitty tea or drinking it all day or something?

[Anonymous No.20109511]

>>20109461
its because they have 60+ bags brewing in one pitcher over the whole day and then dilute that or drink it straight, then they drink that daily over the course of months. you wont get it drinking tea normally

[Anonymous No.20109536]

>>20109461
Try not to drink 30 servings per day habitually.

I sometimes do drink tea all day, but I use a fixed amount of gunpowder leaf and just resteep.

[Anonymous No.20109538]

>>20109461
Partly yes, it is because the tea they drink isn't very high grade, but also because dark teas contain older leaves. Older leaves and stems contain more fluoride than new growth.

[Anonymous No.20109579]

>>20109461
>oh FUCK NO i love boiled dark tea. is it cuz theyre drinking shitty tea or drinking it all day or something?
If you boil 60+ grams of dark tea that is mostly stems everyday it might be worth talking to your doctor about. If you are simmering 8 grams of fu brick or liubao occasionally i wouldn't worry about it

[Anonymous No.20109595]

>>20109536
Scary, I wonder if 2 liters is okay. Water tastes bad in my area.

[Anonymous No.20109621]

>>20109595
Just measure a specific amount of tea. I regularly make two liters of mint green tea for a day. but I make that with two to three tablespoons of gunpowder leaf and a few clipping of mint. That's nowhere near enough to cause excessive fluoride intake.

The people doing that are using tea bags and using several dozens of teabags for the purpose.

[Anonymous No.20109631]

>>20109621
Do tea bags have more fluoride than loose leaf tea?

[Anonymous No.20109637]

>>20109631
the tea in the bags is not whole leaf, it's powder and shake.

So, (a) they're using more tea than you need to use to make two liters, and (b) they're using a form of tea that has more surface area and extract faster and more easily, and also tends to contain stem fragments.

[Anonymous No.20109650]

>>20109536
For people that don't know what iced tea is in the south (disregarding sweet tea). Iced tea is brewed double strength and then poured over ice so it can dilute down to normal strength. that means she was drinking 60-80 servings a day.

[Anonymous No.20109664]

>>20109650
FOR 30 YEARS

[Anonymous No.20109740]

Hi anons, have you tried anything like those berkey water filters for making tea?

[Anonymous No.20109741]

Anons with multiple sets/pieces of teaware, how do you decide what to use for each session? Do you only care about functionality? Are there any pieces you always use for a particular type of tea?

[Anonymous No.20109766]

>>20109741
for raw pu-erh and yancha I like to use a cha hai and small cups so that I can drink it faster and concentrate on the process more
for ripe and most other teas I don't use a cha hai and pour straight into a bigger teacup for a more relaxed session and hotter tea
for chinese greens I brew grandpa style in a glass, they look cool and taste good that way
for japanese greens, I have a kyusu and a yunomi

[Anonymous No.20109775]

>>20109740
Yep. My kettle has only tasted berkey(and distilled) water.

[Anonymous No.20109783]

>>20109740
I use the pur plus filters for tea, it makes a pretty big difference. Filters help for weird smells/tastes chlorine etc, maybe a tiny bit with hard water. If your big problem is hard water you need to either get a water softener system or a reverse osmosis filter + remineralize your water after it's gone through reverse osmosis.
Under sink filtration units are much more convenient then counterop filter pitchers if you can install one i woild go that route

[Anonymous No.20109790]

Drinking the spring 2023 Nannuo from farmer leaf. This is good fucking tea, balanced menghai character, aftertaste is both sweet and floral and lasts for ages. Would recommend buying a sample if you are into menghai teas

[Anonymous No.20109794]

>>20109775
I checked but I guess their stuff is out of stock due to a lawsuit. I knew I should have bought it last year.
>>20109783
I have extremely hard water but there's also a strong chemical taste. Sadly I can't get some of the things you listed due to my landlord being a jerk. I do have a filter that's built into the fridge that I replace every 6 months but it sucks. The chemical taste is still there and definitely more noticeable after a cup is left to warm to room temp. I do want to try one of the under sink multistage systems but that will have to wait.

[Anonymous No.20109811]

>>20109790
sounds good. getting up there in price though. I wish Farmerleaf stocked more affordable Menghai teas

[Anonymous No.20109815]

>>20109794
Then i recommended the big 4 litre or whatever pur water filter. Make sure you get the larger pur plus cartridges and not the smaller standard ones. Those should at least deal with the bad tastes.
I just leave the big filter out on my counter, occasionally the filters will get bubbles in them and slow down if they dry out but you can fix that by soaking them in water for 10 minutes. I just keep the bottom part of pic related full at all times and an inch or two of water in the top so it doesn't dry out. I wouldn't suggest the smaller filter pitchers because they will be annoying since you can't pour them when they have unfiltered water in the top

[Anonymous No.20109818]

Finished off the last of the Taetea V93 tuo cha. A decent tea for certain, good flavor & aroma but not lasting as many infusions as other shou. I loved the wet leaf aroma, which reminded of this cocoa powder chocolate cake from childhood. Won't be buying anymore shou puerh after this, have finally learned that I prefer other tea types. My lesbianism is over

[Anonymous No.20109819]

>>20109815
These big filters

[Anonymous No.20109827]

anyone tried any of FarmerLeaf's ripes yet? thinking about making an order

[Anonymous No.20109844]

>>20109811
>I wish Farmerleaf stocked more affordable Menghai teas
You get a lot of bulang for your money with the fall lao man e. The spring naka is nice too but doesn't quite have the endurance of the lao man e and this nannuo im sipping

[Anonymous No.20109852]

>>20109740
>>20109775
If you have hard tap water (calcium content above 20mg/l) you have three options
a) buy water at the store below 20mg/l calcium (can be difficult to find)
b) get a desktop home water distiller like a lot of Brits have and cut the distillate with hard tap water (0 calcium is also bad)
c) get a expensive softening system like >>20109783

Any kind of charcoal filter won't do much, except when the filter is really new.

My tap water has a whopping calcium content of 208mg/l which is completely unusable for tea. It leaves nasty stains in the tea ware and tastes like shit. On the upside, my bones are probably steel by now. Since tea consists of 99.9% water, you should pay attention to that.

[Anonymous No.20109875]

>>20109844
are you going to review the lao man e and the naka? I've been eyeing both of them, especially the lao man e

[Anonymous No.20109876]

>>20109827
I got a sample of the Da Long Shan ripe. Had a smooth taste, nothing objectionable, some chocolate. However it lacked minerality, which is really important for me to enjoy a ripe.

[Anonymous No.20109904]

>>20109876
>However it lacked minerality
Funny considering that the description mentions "decent minerality"
I was wondering about that one, really cheap tea for Farmerleaf. I understand you didn't like it as much as, say, a 7572?

[Anonymous No.20109925]

>>20109875
>are you going to review the lao man e and the naka?
Sorry i will try and get something up soon, i have been sick so im not sure how trustworthy my sense of taste is right now

[Anonymous No.20109934]

>>20109925
Not that anon but get well soon and don't feel pressured. In the meantime drink some herbal teas.

[Anonymous No.20109946]

>>20109904
I have a Fuhai and a Haiwan cake from Awazon that are my primary comparison points. They both have a higher minerality than the farmer leaf cake, which is something that I seem to need to like a ripe cake. However the farmer leaf cake had (excepting the minerality) a better flavour profile. There must be some people out there who prefer it that way.

[Anonymous No.20109955]

>Berkly water filters can't be sold because the EPA decided to crack down on any product claiming to remove viruses or bacteria from water and is demanding that Berkley register their filters with the EPA as pesticide.
nothing is more dangerous then a government agent that's just doing their job

[Anonymous No.20109959]

>>20109925
I got sick two days after my farmerleaf order showed up, and I don't want to drink any of it since I mostly got samples.

[Anonymous No.20109972]

>>20109959
I know that feel

[Anonymous No.20109975]

>>20109959
What did you get?

[Anonymous No.20110005]

>>20109955
The articles I read was because it has silver in it and silver is classified as a pesticide. I guess that's what prevents the bacteria from growing in it or something along those lines. I think it also said that all filters have it or something? So it's odd for them to randomly go after the company. But then again the same company didn't get any of those third party certifications lmao.

[Anonymous No.20110045]

>>20109794
>>20109955
Good thing I stocked up on a few extra candles.

[Anonymous No.20110060]

>>20110005
It seems like some directive was handed down because of bat flu to go after sketchy products claiming they sterilize water or otherwise protect people from covid. So the EPA decided to go after berkey because its much easier to go after a large registered business then random fly by night sellers on amazon selling random chinese crap that disappears and starts a new store in a matter of hours.
Government agencies being able to arbitrarily reinterpret legislation was a mistake.
Im not even a Berkeley fanboy but this is silly. Apparently the EPA is citing a rule change they made a decade ago to go after a washing machine manufacturer that added an electrolytic silver ion generator to its washing cycle.

[Anonymous No.20110241]

fuck it, felt the urge to consoom and made the order
I was sad when that Autumn Lao Man E cake sold out that year, not going to risk it this time
I don't think FarmerLeaf does Chinese new year sales, so there's no reason to wait anyway

[Anonymous No.20110645]

>>20110241
If you like bulang tea you will be happy

[Anonymous No.20110656]

>>20110645
haven't had many of them, but I think I like low astringency, punchy, good mouthfeel and bitterness that turns into sweetness. want something more green than fruity too

[Anonymous No.20110679]

>>20110656
Yeah i think you will be happy
The endurance and the intensity of the finish are both impressive

[Anonymous No.20110698]

Just tried the new Fenshuiling OB from FL, really good, better than the black even maybe. Has some nice sweetness 'honey' taste, less floral. Good stuff for 18 cents a gram.

[Anonymous No.20111083]

>>20109818
Better to have loved and lost than never to have scissored at all.
What year was your V93?

[Anonymous No.20111148]

>>20110698
Only got a bit left of that, really nice.

[Anonymous No.20111216]

>>20109380
So a Tippy DaHongPao?

[Anonymous No.20111422]

>>20095605

got my previous order from chawang shop wtf do i do they list the order on their site as the right stuff but the package came in with the wrong contents listed n idk if its still salvageable?

[Anonymous No.20111440]

>>20111422
i guess ive won since its an extra puerh cake and red tea for me but i already have a puerh cake im drowning in cheap ripe!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.20111466]

>>20095605
Bought a pack of Tetley brand black tea recently. Full recommendation. Cheap and quality, was contesting store brand for price and each bag packs a punch, none of that "half stems barely roasted" shit.

[Anonymous No.20111537]

>>20111466
How does it taste?

[Anonymous No.20111570]

>>20111537
It's unflavoured black tea, strong and bitter. Mild aftertaste. Steep time is basically instant unless you've got a pint-mug. Long lasting power on the bags, too, you can keep them in there for multiple cups and doesn't feel like wringing blood from a stone.

None of the earthiness or giant steep times you get from the lazy machine-harvested tea brands. Good base for everything if you like to flavour it, but if you just pound that shit neat like myself it's perfect.

[Anonymous No.20111572]

>>20111570
>totally an easy acceptable tea

[Anonymous No.20111609]

>>20111422
>>20111440
it was right order apparently and ive learned two things: water is incredibly important when tasting teas for the first time i usually just made sure i had a relatively clean palette. i havent a clue why i havent thought of this before. and holy shit young raw is so good man i dont know why it took me so long to get to it

[Anonymous No.20112176]

23 snooze

[Anonymous No.20112389]

>>20112176
It does have a little of that chinese green going on like the other anon was saying. Way less fruit forward than my 21 is sipping now but I think it'll settle in. Visually the cake does seem greener and a bit less compressed than the other one. I am getting a little tea drunk off it desu. Feeling tingly and charged. I like it.

[Anonymous No.20112473]

>>20110045
Nice!
>>20110060
That's so lame.

[Anonymous No.20112480]

It's a month now since these arrived and the Autumn Bridge brick is growing on me. Not too aggressive high and usually I manage to fall asleep eventually which is usually a problem with the Shan Cha and other wild teas.

Anything similar to Autumn Bridge which still gives solid high but does not interfere with sleep too much?

[Anonymous No.20112485]

>>20109818
Dayi always has those pastry aromas

[Anonymous No.20112498]

>>20111609
>young raw is so good man i dont know why it took me so long to get to it
yeah I've also really taken a liking to young raw. it's just fun to drink, feels wild and untamed
oddly enough I haven't been feeling the aged stuff much in a while

[Anonymous No.20112504]

>>20112176
>>20112389
yeah I'm gonna wait around on that one, hoping it gets more fruity. right now it's fine for the price, but doesn't excite me
I'll say that it does have a good caffeine punch though, surprisingly enough. I wonder where this material is from

[Anonymous No.20112582]

>>20110679
can't wait to try it
sipping on the Fa Zhan He now. not massively complex tea, but the savory green + citrus flavor is just so nice and relaxing

[Anonymous No.20112653]

>>20105912
I’m a bit of a noob to “real” tea but I ordered this and pic rel the other day and have really been enjoying them so far fwiw. Also make sure to check the bonus page if you do order- got 100g of some dragonwell for free.

[Anonymous No.20112658]

>>20112653
I haven't tried pu-erh yet, maybe after oolong. I'm putting the oolong idea on the backburner for now. I think I'm getting sick.

[Anonymous No.20112659]

>>20112653
You tried the "basket aged" one yet? I had a good time with that one.
It's been a while actually time to brew some up.

[Anonymous No.20112669]

>>20112658
This are my first puerhs too but I can definitely understand why people love them. Been drinking mostly greens/oolongs till now. Hope you feel better.

>>20112659
That one and the yellow mark are the only ones I haven’t tried yet but it’ll be my next one based on your rec. Enjoy!

[Anonymous No.20112678]

NEW THREAD:
>>20112676
>>20112676
>>20112676

[Anonymous No.20112681]

>>20112669
Turned out I drank it all and that's why it's been a while. As I recall it tasted like an old library, it might surprise you.

[Anonymous No.20112682]

also, tea.

[Anonymous No.20112712]

>>20095841
>85c for black
lol

[Anonymous No.20113385]

the puer lesbians are hard at work grooming new tea drinkers