/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.19984164]

>go to panera bread
>get killed by charged lemonade

[Anonymous No.19984168]

>>19984164
Tell it to the other thread faggot.

[Anonymous No.19984170]

honestly if i drank 400 mg of caffeine I'd probably at least think I was dying. I start shaking if I drink a single cup or coffee.

[Anonymous No.19984171]

>>19984164
>be retard
>die cause i cant read
many such cases

[Anonymous No.19984177]

>>19984171
He died from the jab, they're trying to normalize it by using literal retards.

[Anonymous No.19984211]

>>19984164
>plant based
uh?

[Anonymous No.19984217]

>>19984171
>wear small hat
>read talmud
They only put those labels there because they were serving people drinks that had 390mg of caffeine and DID NOT tell them and people died.

390mg in a single drink is absolutely excessive and Panera clearly should not have done that.

[Anonymous No.19984227]

>>19984164
Based!

[Anonymous No.19984953]

>>19984164
other restaurants are going to introduce copycat suicide drinks. people will be chugging the stuff on airplanes, in movie theaters, at work. people are dying in their cars in the middle of the highway. the commercials start telling you to "enjoy responsibly" which means you should only an hero in the parking lot of designated abandoned malls. they clear out all the cars in the parking lot once a week and crush them.

[Anonymous No.19984979]

>>19984953
Based & install them in refugee camps

[Anonymous No.19984990]

>>19984164
Do a backflip when you chug it

[Anonymous No.19985018]

>>19984953
Freedom to the consumers.

[Anonymous No.19985088]

It should not be legal to sell drinks containing more than 200mg of caffeine unless they are specifically pre-workout and specifically sold at fitness stores

[Anonymous No.19985097]

>>19984177
ok schizo

[Anonymous No.19985101]

>>19984164
good
if you ask me if you are dumb enough to drink a fatal amount of it you deserve to die

[Anonymous No.19985113]

>>19985088
And it shouldn't be legal for you to open your idiot mouth and spew your dogshit opinions, yet here we are

[Anonymous No.19985120]

>>19985113
I'm right though

[Anonymous No.19985123]

>>19985101
>>19984171
>MUST DEFEND CORPORATION UNDER GUISE OF SITE-CULTURE MISANTHROPY

[Anonymous No.19985128]

>>19985120
You couldn't be more wrong. If you don't want to consume caffeine, simply don't shovel it into your gaping retard hole.

[Anonymous No.19985163]

the thing that bothers me here is that they think putting "plant based" on fucking lemonade is worth the ink used to print it. what the fuck else would it be based on?

[Anonymous No.19985214]

I'm a fat bastard with a heart defect and I didn't die. Weak, pathetic freaks.

[Anonymous No.19985218]

>>19984217
30oz is almost two standard energy drink cans, so its the equivalent of pounding two cans of Monster in one go.

[Anonymous No.19985223]

>>19985218
I do that sometimes.

[Anonymous No.19985225]

These lemonades are like oxycontin. Once panera gets rid of them people will have to turn to the cheaper alternative (monsters)

[Anonymous No.19985230]

retards will say its the vaccineee its da vaxxxxx da jooooozz im a virgin incel because vaxxxx and jooooozz fucking cringe

[Anonymous No.19985234]

Intelligent people will say "It's the vaccine, it's the vaccine! The jews! I have kept myself chaste because the vaccine and the jews have a negative influence on society."

[Anonymous No.19985237]

etards will say its the vaccineee its da vaxxxxx da jooooozz im a virgin incel because vaxxxx and jooooozz fucking cringe

[Anonymous No.19985241]

>>19985234
>>19985237
antivax tards think theyre so fucking clever its hilarious. "im so smart for refusing life saving medicine" lmao fucking retards

[Anonymous No.19985245]

>>19985241
>life saving
I had covid and it's literally less severe than the common cold.

[Anonymous No.19985250]

>>19985245
antivax tard with yet another anecdotal argument. brilliant. and im sure youre not lying and you totally didnt spend weeks coughing your lungs out and still have lingering symptoms. totally bro.

[Anonymous No.19985255]

>>19985250
It's true, my entire family got it.

[Anonymous No.19985261]

>plant-based and Clean!
Where does this end? Do we eventually just give up on language and go back to grunting and snarls?

[Anonymous No.19985262]

>>19984164
Kinda surprising they went with such a high caffeine content. If it was a coffees worth it would've been plenty.

[Anonymous No.19985276]

>>19985255
congrats, you and your whole mongrel trumptard family refused to protect yourselves and your entire community, putting the lives of children and the elderly at risk and managed to get away without suffering consequences (for now). why cant you just gloat in private and shut the fuck up about it when having a conversation with actual people who dont want to listen to your stupid nonsense?

[Anonymous No.19985280]

>>19985276
The vaccine doesn't stop transmission of the virus. Whether or not a person takes the vaccine makes literally no difference to anybody except that person.

[Anonymous No.19985282]

>>19985280
nice, where did you hear that from, /Pol/? facebook? fucking retard

[Anonymous No.19985285]

>>19984164
>390mg caffeine
that's fucking insane who needs that amount of caffeine in one sitting

[Anonymous No.19985286]

>>19985223
I use gelcaps, and when I need to 'get going' I take 3 200mg caps so I do too. I don't understand how some stupid faggot could die from just 400.

[Anonymous No.19985290]

>>19985282
I can't remember. Unlike you I don't obsess over this stuff.

[Anonymous No.19985299]

>>19985290
sure you dont, "buddy". thats why you lot are always in every thread just itching to post your made up stories about how your entire family tree got covid and came out perfectly fine. you know we dont believe you, right?

[Anonymous No.19985301]

>>19984164
retard

[Anonymous No.19985307]

>>19985299
That's not me. This might shock you, but there's actually more than one person who disagrees with you.

[Anonymous No.19985317]

>>19985307
yep, no shortage of antivax tards on the virgin refuge website

[Anonymous No.19985322]

>>19985317
Actually we prefer the term "antivax cognoscenti".

[Anonymous No.19985333]

>>19985322
i prefer the term ignorant horse paste fucker myself

[Anonymous No.19985334]

>>19985163
I'm sure a lot of powdered lemonade mix is completely artificial.

[Anonymous No.19985335]

>>19985285
me, my pre workout Crack Gold has 500mg per scoop

[Anonymous No.19985340]

>>19985333
>horse paste
You mean the ivermectin that the establishment quietly did a 180 on and admitted the effectiveness of?

[Anonymous No.19985343]

>>19985340
msnbc didn't say anything about that you liar

[Anonymous No.19985346]

>>19985343
Do you not understand what "quietly" means?

[Anonymous No.19985350]

>>19985346
The media's job is to honestly report on relevant information in an unbiased way. I'm pretty sure they would have told me about this if it was true

[Anonymous No.19985355]

>>19985350

[Anonymous No.19985363]

>>19985286
400mg caffeine is nothing to coffeechads but is an obscene amount to someone with no caffeine tolerance, enough to give palpitations

[Anonymous No.19985382]

>>19984953
This is the future I want to live in

[Anonymous No.19985407]

>>19984164
If your lemonade doesn't kill people, I don't want it

[Anonymous No.19985414]

>>19985128

[Anonymous No.19985415]

>>19985363
it's a lot either way if you're drinking it like it's water

not reading all this shit but I assume it's a shit filnging contest between the people who think corporations can do no wrong and the people who want to sue over everything

panera fucked up, you don't sell 400mg of caffeine to unsuspecting people, that's criminally negligent
>but it was in 6 point font and the sub minimum wage monkey at the register should have said something
ok, but no

[Anonymous No.19985419]

who died

[Anonymous No.19985427]

>>19985282
>nice, where did you hear that from, /Pol/? facebook?
You are so easy to read. I can literally peer straight into your consciousness, or lack of, with that sentence alone.
I bet if you ever bothered to analyse your own thought patterns you would realize you took the vaccine for reasons that had nothing to do with health, and everything to do with cowardess.

[Anonymous No.19985430]

>>19985419
Florida Man
>https://www.npr.org/2023/12/07/1217758671/a-lawsuit-says-a-man-died-after-drinking-a-highly-caffeinated-beverage-at-panera
>https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/florida-man-dies-from-after-drinking-panera-breads-caffeinated-charged-lemonade-according-to-lawsuit

[Anonymous No.19985436]

>>19985415
Nah, we're not defending the corpo. We're making fun of the stupid faggots who managed to die on such a small amount of caffeine.

[Anonymous No.19985437]

>>19984164
Looks like Panera is getting CHARGED with wrongful death

XD

[Anonymous No.19985440]

>>19984164
>plant based
As opposed to meat based lemonade?

[Anonymous No.19985465]

>>19985436
ah I see, just being edgy then. yeah fuck wheelchair ramps and aria labels too amirite?

at some point later in life you'll experience a period of precarious health (could be just a few weeks or could be a long time) and you'll be singing a different tune, but for now enjoy being 12

[Anonymous No.19985469]

>>19985343
You have “I listen to msnbc” vibes and didn’t even have to mention them. Makes sense.

[Anonymous No.19985470]

>>19984164
The fact that all of the people who have died from this have consumed like three whole 30oz cups of it amazes me.

>finish off a single serving
>"that was very caffeinated, I'm shaking uncontrollably!"
>drink a second serving
>"wow, my heart is racing and I have chest pain!"
>drink a third serving
>"ACK!"

[Anonymous No.19985472]

>>19985440
The blood is on plant hands
or leaves or whatever the fuck

[Anonymous No.19985491]

>>19984217
The truth.

[Anonymous No.19985497]

>>19985088
>in a country where you can buy a 9mm handgun on the high street
>NO YOU CAN'T SELL CAFFEINATED DRINKS AAAAAAAAA I'M GOING INSANNEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.19985499]

>>19985470
>buy drink with refills
>get two refills
>die

[Anonymous No.19985500]

>>19985245
my boss had it and died. it's your move.

[Anonymous No.19985502]

I frequently drink multiple liters of coffee in a day, or 10+ shots of espresso and I'm fine. Anyone who dies from this lemonade is a pussy

[Anonymous No.19985510]

>>19985497
the difference is one is a tool and one is a beverage

[Anonymous No.19985511]

>>19984164
The Panera nearest me has moved the charged lemonade behind the counter, and they only give 1 single refill.

[Anonymous No.19985513]

>>19985123
But it literally says that it's caffeinated and even how much is in it? How was Panera to blame

[Anonymous No.19985519]

>>19985500
probably some incompetent healthcare hero put him on a ventilator

[Anonymous No.19985520]

>>19985513
It's because they didn't have the signs up at some locations warning about the caffeine levels, and many of the employees didn't know either, even suggesting it for children under 5 years old.

Further, lemonade is not a drink commonly associated with caffeine, had they marketed it as an energy drink with lemon flavor, that would be different. They also put the charged lemonades RIGHT where the normal tea/lemonade stand used to sit next to the regular soft drinks, totally separate from the coffee station (where most of the highly caffeinated beverages are)

Also the fact they've lowered the caffeine amount by almost half, and put up even more obvious signage (with some stores removing them from the floor and putting them behind the counter) shows Panera knows they've fucked up and they're trying to rectify shit.

[Anonymous No.19985521]

>>19985513
do you normally jump behind the counter to inspect all the labels on the machinery when ordering fast food

[Anonymous No.19985522]

>>19985513
The argument is Panera are being negligent by leaving large quantities of drugs out for consumption in the first place, and also selling it as "lemonade" which isnt known for having caffeine. That's all they got

[Anonymous No.19985592]

>>19984164
and nothing of value was lost.

[Anonymous No.19985593]

>>19984217
>They only put those labels there because they were serving people drinks that had 390mg of caffeine and DID NOT tell them and people died.
>390mg in a single drink is absolutely excessive and Panera clearly should not have done that.

[Anonymous No.19985601]

>>19985465
>precarious health
If you're going to start taking your health into consideration, YOU'LL be making sure you know what you're getting into. Worried about caffeine in a drink? Then check and find out. Don't just assume. Sure maybe you could be in the right, but will it matter when you're dead?

[Anonymous No.19985606]

Notice how they're all vaxxies?

[Anonymous No.19985608]

>>19985606
it was a death WITH charged lemonade, not a death FROM charged lemonade

[Anonymous No.19985610]

>>19985606
notice how you are a moron?

[Anonymous No.19985649]

>>19984164
People who die from caffeine are so weak, they were already seconds from death. The wind could have blown on them funny and sent them to hell. It's ridiculous to call it "killed by lemonade" they should call it being killed by obesity and retardation. Good riddance to that guy and I hope the lemonades help more such people into their graves.

[Anonymous No.19985650]

>>19984953
Maybe Panera can become a part of the relief effort at our southern border and set up charged lemonade bubblers there to help those thirsty migrants.

[Anonymous No.19985652]

>>19985282
This post reveals you as a troll

[Anonymous No.19985662]

>>19984217
If you drank 90 ounces of lemonade you deserve to die regardless of whether it had 1100 mg of caffeine in it

[Anonymous No.19985667]

>>19985497
> on the high street
Euro seethes about gun rights apropos of nothing. Pottery.

[Anonymous No.19985673]

>>19985662
>If you drank 90 ounces of lemonade
People drink 2.5-3.5 liters a day, you SHOULDN'T be doing it with lemonade, but I know plenty of people who are drinking ~2-3 liters a day of diet coke and coffee.

[Anonymous No.19985677]

>>19985237

[Anonymous No.19985681]

>>19985677
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.19985729]

So let me give you all a brief series of events that will follow if this goes through.

1) Some schmuck will go into their locally owned restaurant and intentionally try to give themselves a heart attack. Somewhere that specifically trusts their clients and doesn't have the same legal protection as larger businesses.
2) After their heart attack, which they'll probably survive because they were planning for it, they'll take the place to trial and lose.
2) Regardless of the loss, other businesses will start protecting themselves. Gas stations and diners will remove self-service stations and prohibit refills entirely.
3) Assholes will still try to poke holes in the system, seeking energy drinks as the next lottery ticket; drink enough and you'll eventually win!
4) Laws will be eventually enforced to prohibit sales of any caffeine product without an ID.

Basically, it's all a giant fucked up arms race where a few idiots will push the limits of stupidity so far that the businesses will just respond by removing any and all opportunities for a law suit.
It's been told in the cards. We've seen this time and time again. When you reward retards, you create retards.

[Anonymous No.19985753]

>>19984170
I literally start shaking when I hear Trumps name.

[Anonymous No.19985761]

>>19984164
Are you trying to tell me I have to take RESPONSIBILITY for my choices!?!?
HOW DARE YOU!!
XXXXist!!!!! HATE!!! Arrest him!!

[Anonymous No.19985794]

>>19984217
>willingly purchase and consume a product
>REEEEE government save me!
you're a domesticated animal

[Anonymous No.19985799]

>>19984217
...another issue is rather or not those drinks have 390mg caffeine -- or actually more. Caffeine is not normally occurring in lemonade -- they added that and they could have added too much.

[Anonymous No.19985804]

>>19985667
I'm going to get caffeinated and shoot guns in my backyard just because I can

[Anonymous No.19985815]

>>19985799
Also, other than that hot coffee can vary in caffeine content, it’s drank slowly, so your body processes it over time, rather than a lemonade which I assume people drink quickly in the 30-min timeframe of their meal

[Anonymous No.19985823]

>>19984164
IS this signage before or after the deaths? If it is before I hope their families get absolutely nothing.

[Anonymous No.19985837]

>>19985261
Much better

[Anonymous No.19985851]

>>19984217
I just went to /pol/ after more than a year and happened to learn what talmud is.
Otherwise I wouldn’t know what you are talking about.

[Anonymous No.19985873]

Did we need another thread on this retard killing himself?

[Anonymous No.19985889]

>>19985815
-- that, and people tend to spend more with cards and taps vs having to hand over cash -- their brain pay attention. When we drink something bitter like coffee and tea, we pay more attention that we are drinking caffeine, something that we should only have in moderation. Cool and sweet energy drink and soda format is harder to pay attention to, it's so easy to overconsume sweet things.

[Anonymous No.19985914]

>>19985889
>I----it's..... it's not MY fault for making bad decisions among various options I was already informed about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not people: children.

[Anonymous No.19985938]

>>19985214
>I'm a fat
opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.19985961]

>>19985497
its quite obvious to everyone without a mental deficiency that a gun is dangerous
its not obvious to anyone that a drink could kill you in 1 day

[Anonymous No.19985973]

>trying so hard to be edgy you end up defending a massive corporation that would sell you rat poison if they could legally make a profit off it

[Anonymous No.19985990]

>>19984170
That's one littler of coffee and I have definitely drank more than that in one go
I can drink as much coffee as I want but drinking two Munsters back to back can fuck me up and I don't know why

[Anonymous No.19985998]

>>19985973
I don't give a flying fuck about Panera and wouldn't mind seeing them go under.
But the best case scenario, and I mean the BEST case scenario from this trial is that coffee refills nationwide go from "free" to "That'll be $5.59 plus tip!".
The worst case scenario is that caffeinated substances become regulated to a point that you have to show your ID just to order green tea.

There's no good outcome to any of this.
You think it'll stop at just slapping a label on it.
It won't.

[Anonymous No.19986017]

>>19985990
>drinking two Munsters back to back

[Anonymous No.19986028]

>>19985998
I don't think a free refill of coffee is something I've ever experienced in real life. Is that a thing at Starbucks or Dunkin? I couldn't imagine hanging around somewhere like that long enough for that to be relevant.

[Anonymous No.19986038]

>>19984211
>he doesn't know about meat based lemonade

[Anonymous No.19986039]

>>19986028
It's pretty much standard at any sit down restaurant and gas station.
Ironically, coffee shop are the exception, not the standard for this practice.

[Anonymous No.19986053]

>>19986039
I've never seen it at a gas station, but yes bottomless coffee is normal at proper restaurants. However, the catch is that it's served in small mugs which are several times smaller than a single coffee from a dedicated coffee chain, and many restaurants you have to ask the server for a refill rather than them leaving the pot with you. Ironically most people drink less coffee when they're given unlimited coffee than when they're given a single coffee from star bucks of dunkin because of this.

[Anonymous No.19986079]

>>19985350
>The media's job is to honestly report on relevant information in an unbiased way.
There is a line and you crossed it. It's not funny anymore.

[Anonymous No.19986081]

>>19986053
>Ironically most people drink less coffee when they're given unlimited coffee than when they're given a single coffee from star bucks of dunkin because of this.
You're not getting it.
Businesses won't want to risk it.
Their half-assed solution to the problem will just be making coffee prohibitively expensive because if you try and hold them accountable for it then they're going to recoup their losses for babysitting retards. That way even if the retard spends $30 to drink a gallon of caffeine and sues, they still make a profit.

You regulate the substance, substance becomes more expensive. Quick maffs.

[Anonymous No.19986088]

>>19986028
Paneras is the exception. For a long time, Starbucks and Barnes & Noble had people operating their tutoring business, and loitering the whole damn day, enjoying the AC, space bigger than their tiny apartment or dorm, and living for hours on wifi and using the outlets. So...they covered up the outlets to encourage people to go home eventually. Borders removed the chairs around the store where you would sit and pick out a book or choose a magazine.

Panera did the opposite. They specifically added outlets accessible to every booth and table, and a fireplace and comfy chairs. Once you bought a drink, you refilled it at whim. You also didn't have to bus your own table
I think with "rewards" you can do alright at a Starbucks if you drink simple brewed coffee, because you reach a level where you earn all refills, but not sure. I am no longer a student comparing those things anymore.

[Anonymous No.19986126]

>>19985837
>they
That is literally the worst one. The others are just gibberish, but referring to an individual as "they" is linguistical cancer.
I presume you meant in the coherent, plural, context.

[Anonymous No.19986138]

>>19986126
>They is literally the worst one
Even Shakespeare used "They" in ambiguous nonplural contexts.
It is literally the most appropriate.
It is

[Anonymous No.19986143]

>>19986126
"They" can be singular if you don't know the gender of the person being referenced. Example: "I don't know who cooked my steak, but they did one hell of a job."

[Anonymous No.19986160]

>>19986138
>Even Shakespeare used "They"
of course, he was a trailblazer of degeneracy.

>>19986143
sure but that isn't really relevant since we are discussing a particular use of the word.

[Anonymous No.19986170]

>>19986160
It's the same thing. "They" can be used as a pronoun referring to a single person without indicating gender. There are centuries of written English from which to draw examples of this.

[Anonymous No.19986177]

>>19986028
IKEA's restaurant have free refill coffee, it's self-serve -- and it used to be that IKEA family card holders have free coffee with their meal.

[Anonymous No.19986178]

>>19986143
They can be used any time. I hate these fucking zoomers who think they and them only existed post 2016 from liberal faggots when everyone used these terms since English existed. How the fuck do all you ESL and zoomers not know this? You can even see it in literature going back long before retarded liberal shit even existed. Get a grip on yourselves.

[Anonymous No.19986191]

>>19986160
> he was a trailblazer of degeneracy
It has been used as an ambiguous nonplural since the 1300s. He didn't invent that usage and he wasn't real trailblazing with it. Everyone from his period fundamentally understood what "they" meant in that context.

[Anonymous No.19986218]

>>19985088
>>19985497
People know guns are deadly, whereas drinks are not supposed to be Selling drinks that can kill alongside that drinks that don't is like selling real guns with real bullets in it next to prop guns that are not supposed to be deadly. (e.g. on the set of Alex Baldwin's Rust, the crew would practise shooting by loading the 'prop guns' with real bullets and then put it back when they were done).

[Anonymous No.19986289]

Had one after I heard the news
$18 for the bravo sandwich and a regular size charged lemonade
Only drank about half the lemonade before I had to stop

[Anonymous No.19986300]

>>19985499
>30oz refills are normal and expected
We need to put caffeine in all soft drinks and kill off more fatties

[Anonymous No.19986314]

>>19985973
>wanting more government overreach to own the corporations

[Anonymous No.19986347]

>>19984217
I don’t get this, is it 390 if you fill up a 30oz container to the brim with no ice?

[Anonymous No.19986351]

>>19986347
Yes, all drinks are measured by the actual volume with no ice.

[Anonymous No.19986425]

>>19985681
It means fuck you nigger, and fuck jannies and their spam filter. My post is the most important on 4chan right now. This place is full of new fags and nigger faggots

[Anonymous No.19986437]

>>19985677
dumb phoneposter

[Anonymous No.19986676]

>buy caffeine infused goysyrup
>look inside
>caffeine
>

[Anonymous No.19986714]

>>19986191
yeh it was used, as stated earlier, when the gender was not specified.
It comes down to whether you think a mentally ill man in a dress is "not gender specific" and are willing to change your vocabulary to cater to his illness.

[Anonymous No.19986723]

>>19984164

[Anonymous No.19986727]

>>19985961
a gun is only dangerous when handled by an idiot. same for caffeine drinks.

[Anonymous No.19986795]

>>19985430
based

[Anonymous No.19986868]

>>19985794
This is the case when the product is clearly labeled with the danger on the front and you know you have a problem with it.

>I'm a genetic defect.
>Why would you do this to me!
You should have been avoiding the shit you knew could kill you instead of expecting nearly 7 billion people to protect you from it.

[Anonymous No.19986881]

>beverage should be safe OR labeled is considered an edgy position
the contrarianism is strong

[Anonymous No.19986898]

>>19986868
These people deserve whatever death they receive.

[Anonymous No.19986994]

>>19986881
Yeah, "We need to regulate caffeine!" is a pretty edgy position.

[Anonymous No.19987197]

>>19985499
My point is that the people who died to this lemonade would have been consuming it gradually over a protracted period during which they'd have experienced steadily escalating physical symptoms that clearly would have been indicative of increasing harm, yet they kept on drinking it until they died.

It would be like if someone walked into a fire, then just stood there in the flames for several minutes ignoring the pain until they burned to death, when they could have stopped at any point before the end and lived.

[Anonymous No.19987256]

>>19987197
You have no idea what you are talking about.

[Anonymous No.19987284]

>>19985729
and the consumer loses by having slightly fewer options for caffeinated beverages

[Anonymous No.19987313]

>>19987197
>be retard
>buy yummy lemonade with lots of tasty sugar in it
>gulp it down because retard with no impulse control
>refill it and repeat, twice
>start to feel shaky
>pain in chest
>dead

[Anonymous No.19987316]

>>19985276
>congrats, you and your whole mongrel trumptard family refused to protect yourselves and your entire community, putting the lives of children and the elderly at risk and managed to get away without suffering consequences (for now). why cant you just gloat in private and shut the fuck up about it when having a conversation with actual people who dont want to listen to your stupid nonsense?

This has to be bait. I refuse to believe otherwise.

[Anonymous No.19987324]

>>19987313
I don't understand this is good though?

[Anonymous No.19987347]

>>19985519
you're probably a schizo who talks to the feds in your walls, checkmate

[Anonymous No.19987355]

>>19986218
Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger and comitted manslaughter. Dilate you axewound.

[Anonymous No.19987361]

>>19984953
please don't get my hopes up like this

[Anonymous No.19987366]

>>19984953
>only an hero
?

[Anonymous No.19987396]

>>19987355
If you are shooting pop guns with your siblings and somehow it fires a real bullet are you blamed? Alec did literally nothing wrong it was the tranny who didn't do her job properly.

[Anonymous No.19987409]

>>19987366
Lurk for 2 more years before posting.

[Anonymous No.19987510]

>>19987396
It was a real gun capable of firing real bullets. Not only did he fail the most basic gun safety protocol-checking if it's loaded. He THEN pointed it at someone and pulled the trigger.
(the pig face is also guilty)

[Anonymous No.19987514]

>>19987396
He hired her it was his fault for making a dangerous environment, ironically, the guy he shot was also at fault but wasn't charged for it

[Anonymous No.19988156]

>>19987366
An hero means "stupid suicide".

[Anonymous No.19988175]

>>19987324
Because dead retard.
When is that not a good thing?

[Anonymous No.19988177]

>>19987366
Lol, newfag.

[Anonymous No.19988228]

>>19987284
> slightly fewer
Oh right. You're a zoomer.
Sorry, I forgot that you're already used to having everything you consume and view monitored by higher power.
Disregard, this doesn't affect you.

[Anonymous No.19988239]

>>19985677
>>19986425
Hi newfag, 'b2r' is detected as spam.
Please lurk a rew more weeks before posting again.

[Anonymous No.19988241]

>>19988228
Grandpa's ranting in the corner again

[Anonymous No.19988962]

>>19988241

[Anonymous No.19989147]

>>19987396
Alec Balwin pointed a gun at somebody, pulled the trigger, and killed them. He shot a woman to death with a bullet from a gun. He killed a person. If somebody else shot her, then they would be a killer. These are facts.

He is a piece of human trash and so is anybody that supports him. These are (correct) opinions.

One of these sets is arguable, one is not. I know trannies are incapable of seperating reality from fiction, but please, just try to look at things without interjecting your emotions into the events that occurred.

[Anonymous No.19989157]

>>19988156
stop feeding the immigrants gaywad

[Anonymous No.19989162]

>>19987313
based lemonade trimming the tard population

[Anonymous No.19989172]

>>19989147
Incorrect

[Anonymous No.19989186]

>>19985729
People who seek out and exploit loopholes are one of the lowest forms of degenerates for this reason. Loopholes create gray areas. Gray areas allow for the use of personal discretion, which, when not abused, create an easier, less stressful, more independant and individualised experience for whatever process is occurring. Abusing loopholes forced them to be closed with zero tolerance policies, which are often draconian, punish the wrong people, and strip away nuance and personal autonomy.

People who brag about gaming the system should be publicly executed.

[Anonymous No.19989187]

>245mg of caffeine for 20 fl. oz
a 16 oz. Monster has around 163mg of caffeine (~10.1mg per fl. oz.). This has even more than that (12.25mg per fl. oz) and its a larger serving. Why on earth are they selling this?

[Anonymous No.19989192]

>>19989172
>tranny can't into objective facts
Many such cases.

[Anonymous No.19989204]

>>19989192
>brings up trannys out of nowhere
why do they live rent free in your head?

[Anonymous No.19989209]

>>19989186
100% agreed, fuck loophole abusers that's how we get bullshit zero tolerance policy crap.

[Anonymous No.19989283]

>>19989157
No. I want people to know about this. It's too funny to just let it fade.

[Anonymous No.19989285]

>>19989204
>brimgs up trannies on a site infested with them
>durrrrr rent free
Come up with a better insult or gtfo.

[Anonymous No.19989288]

>>19984164
>suicide by charged lemonade
It's just sitting out there with just a warning sticker huh?

[Anonymous No.19989293]

>>19985214
You'll get your buffalo butt.

[Anonymous No.19989297]

>>19985729
He held on to that last sip never letting go

[Anonymous No.19989301]

>>19989283
>No. I want people to know about this. It's too funny to just let it fade.
>proceeds to give people only the most superficial information
>doesn't even explain why it's funny at all
So not only are you spoonfeeding newfags, but your actions contradict your explanation of why. I give it 5 years before "an hero" just means being dead.

[Anonymous No.19989307]

>>19984171
>Caffeinated lemonade
>assume serving is around a cup of coffee
>it's actually 3 cups of coffee worth
yeah Panera isn't liable since it's 1/30th of an ld50 but they need to reduce the caffeine content or they will become liable

[Anonymous No.19989311]

>>19989187
The caffeine content is the same as dark roast coffee.
They're selling it because people regularly get that at Starbucks which also sells coffee in 20oz and 30oz sizes.
Their flaw was that they didn't expect someone to drink a literal gallon of it, which is absolutely insane even if it weren't caffeinated.

[Anonymous No.19989318]

>>19989301
I'm just letting them know it's a meme and not typo.
That's enough for them to look it up themselves if they're actually curious.

[Anonymous No.19989319]

>>19989311
dark roast coffee has less caffiene than regular roast usually, it gets burned off

[Anonymous No.19989323]

>>19989319
And?

[Anonymous No.19989327]

>>19984217
Who the fuck orders a charged lemonade over regular lemonade a d does not ask why it's charged? Oh right a girl with extreme allergies to caffeine and a literal retard.
Let's not pretend we didn't just eliminatedl two defects from the gene pool.

[Anonymous No.19989345]

>>19989307
>>Caffeinated lemonade
>>assume serving is around a cup of coffee
>>it's actually 3 cups of coffee worth
You forgot:
>it explicitly tells you in obvious, clear signage the precise amount of caffeine in a serving
Panera should just assume all its customers are severely disabled and have employees stationed by every printed sign shouting out its contents as you pass by. That way no tard will ever die ever again forever!

[Anonymous No.19989355]

>>19987396
>>19987355
Why are /pol/tards so obsessed with invading other boards like refugees and spamming their offtopic garbage into every thread?

[Anonymous No.19989367]

>>19989311
>They're selling it because people regularly get that at Starbucks which also sells coffee in 20oz and 30oz sizes.
Do Americans really? Thats almost a liter of coffee.

[Anonymous No.19989370]

>>19985729
>Nooo! Not the hecking wholesome corporations! They should have an immunity for all lawsuits!
Lmao americans are so fucking cucked

[Anonymous No.19989377]

> see sign
> CHARGED lemonade
> lists the caffiene content
> Hmm wonder what that all means o well gonna drink 2 cups cause I can't fucking read a sign
>die

skill issue

[Anonymous No.19989380]

>>19989355
This is, and always will be, a /pol/ board

[Anonymous No.19989390]

>>19985520
This pretty much sums it up

[Anonymous No.19989407]

>>19989380
*gets banned for le racism*

[Anonymous No.19989413]

>>19989355
Calling somebody tranny is like calling somebody gay now. It doesn't mean anything, stop taking it so seriously and overthinking it, tranny.

[Anonymous No.19989414]

>>19988228
Imagine being such a loser that you consider being born in a certain year an accomplishment. Get a job.

[Anonymous No.19989417]

>>19989370
Nobody is saying this you schizo retard.

[Anonymous No.19989419]

>>19989413
>I-I'm not obsessed!
>I just call trannies out of habit now!
Cope. I suggest getting professional help and reducing your internet usage.

[Anonymous No.19989428]

>>19989419
The /pol/chuds are in your walls anon. They know when you talk about them, post about them, think about them.

[Anonymous No.19989440]

>>19989187
I've chugged a 6oz Death Wish coffee that had 1g of caffeine. Multiple times. I didn't die. Those people were defects.

[Anonymous No.19989441]

>>19989440
wrong. you're just a super stud

[Anonymous No.19989450]

>>19989440
No
> A typical (8 Oz) cup of Death Wish Coffee contains about 165 mg of caffeine (confirmed by an independent lab)

[Anonymous No.19989452]

>>19989440
>you can't get a ddicted to caffeine bro just drink more

[Anonymous No.19989461]

>>19989414
>Get a job
I did. I used the money I make from my job to buy a house and I rent my spare rooms to zoomers for passive income.
It's pretty great.

[Anonymous No.19989473]

>>19989461
MUCH SUCCESS
VERY NICE

[Anonymous No.19989795]

>>19984217
>literally a sign on the dispenser with the exact caffiene quantity per cup size
Post wrist

[Anonymous No.19989801]

ban assault lemonades

[Anonymous No.19989822]

>>19989795
See >>19985520

[Anonymous No.19989931]

>>19989822
>It's EVERYONE ELSE'S FAULT that I'm harming myself with my voluntary actions!
>They should be judged in a negative light for my idiocy!!

>Now, give me more support and reinforce my privileges! It's my right to cause trauma on myself and community because of my selfish wishes!!
2023

[Anonymous No.19989948]

>>19989931
Again, not all locations had the signs posted, and they put them in the same location that just days before would've held the regular lemonade.

If you think this wasn't negligent you're a retard.

[Anonymous No.19989982]

>go to panera bread
>get charged up by charged lemonade

[Anonymous No.19989981]

>>19986425
touch grass

[Anonymous No.19989991]

>>19989948
>Look, purchasing an advertised product of "Charged Lemonade! It has caffeine!" and refilling it to the point of death from overconsumption...
>...isn't MY fault because of MY choices!!!
>It's THEIR fault!!!!!
>How was I, a grown adult, supposed to know that what I consume has potentially lethal side-effects!?!?
>You expect me to KNOW about what ingest!?!?! UGH!

>No, you're not getting it, Anon! I'm telling you that every single location that sells a product has to have blindingly bright alarms telling me about the negative repercussions of my choices! Everywhere! All the time!
>I SHOULD NOT BE EXPECTED TO BE CAREFUL!!!
Oh, you're a child. Gotcha.
I revoke your privileges.

[Anonymous No.19990014]

>>19985088
>>19985113
>>19985497
Not that anon, but the reason why I agree with caffeine regulation is because people are stupid and since caffeine is such a crutch in modern Western society they don't realize they can indeed over do it. Nothing should stop the consoomer from just ordering two drinks with 200mg caffeine in it if they really want to, but no one else should be held accountable for that.

[Anonymous No.19990021]

>>19989450
You're such a fucking idiot. When you brew Deathwish coffee it tells you the serving size for 1g of coffee. You scoop that serving size and add water. You don't scoop thr 1g serving size and brew it with a gallon of water. I brewed 1g with 6-8oz of water and drank it. I was shaking all day long, wide awake. Did I die or get heart palpitations? No, I'm not a genetic defect.

Next time don't use google and use your brain.,

[Anonymous No.19990026]

>>19990021
1g of coffee is not 1g of caffeine you retard

[Anonymous No.19990033]

>>19990026
I clearly made a typo dipshit. You need google to learn what that is too?

[Anonymous No.19990036]

>>19990033
i need you to correct yourself before you wreck yourself with that attitude

[Anonymous No.19990070]

>>19984953

[Anonymous No.19990079]

>>19990021
>I'm not a genetic defect.
just too retarded to use english

[Anonymous No.19990096]

>>19990021
>When you brew Deathwish coffee it tells you the serving size for 1g of coffee
No it doesn't, it says 2.5 tablespoons per 6 FL Oz. Which gives 165mg of caffeine, nowhere does it tell you to serve yourself 6x that amount in a single cup.

https://www.deathwishcoffee.com/blogs/coffee-talk/proper-brewing-ratio

[Anonymous No.19990394]

>>19990096
I said it tells you the serving, not that is says you HAVE to drink 1g. Stop talking so much shit when you've never purchased a single bag.

The point is 1g shouldn't kill a normal human being so almost 400mg shouldn't be an issue.

[Anonymous No.19990822]

I didn't give a single solitary fuck about Panera in the past five years but all this talk about 400mg caffeinated beverages has me interested. That's a lot of caffeine for your money. Might switch from the morning BANG to the morning Panera run.

[Anonymous No.19990844]

>>19984953
already exists, its called alcohol

[Anonymous No.19990848]

>be American
>get shot

[Anonymous No.19990914]

It's lemonades fault for being so scrumptiously yummy and that it mixes well with vodka or caffeine slurry and makes it very easy to quickly drink these hazardous substances at much faster speed than you normally would

[Anonymous No.19991049]

should put piles of cocaine out for self serve as well

[Anonymous No.19991143]

>>19984217
>>19984164
Ok except the girl who died knew she had a heart defect and to avoid caffine

[Anonymous No.19991167]

>>19991049
2nd best drug i've ever had fun on. caffeine is probably 6th?
also try molly fellas. ask your degenerate friend to try it first before dosing

[Anonymous No.19991171]

>>19989991
>potentially lethal
this shouldn't be said when talking about lemonade

[Anonymous No.19991174]

>>19989991
when your employees are literally offering it to children and toddlers, you fucked up.

[Anonymous No.19991205]

>>19991171
Good thing it's being spoken about caffeine, a stimulant chemical drug consumed from outside sources, huh?

>>19991174
Sounds like those humans are unwise and require parental supervision, huh?

>ANON! Stop implying I should take responsibility for my choices!!
>I'm a moron!!!
Point taken. Privileges rescinded.

[Anonymous No.19991266]

>>19991049
Kind of boggling to think that if cocaine as a product had been more mild and widely disseminated before the blowback in the early 20th century, it is plausible that'd you'd have intentionally concaine-infused products for sale at establishments.
In Japan amphetamine-infused beverages were popular in the postwar shakeup before being banned.

[Anonymous No.19991319]

>>19985522
>The argument is Panera are being negligent by leaving large quantities of drugs out for consumption in the first place
Pic related exists at every large gas station.

[Anonymous No.19991335]

>>19991319
Ok, now chug it and get a refill w/in 15-30 seconds of the pour

[Anonymous No.19991346]

>>19984164
>>19984953

her own fault. she had a condition where she shouldn't drink caffeine, drink has caffeine and is marketed for giving "energy"

it's sad and tragic but i'd prefer to live in a world where it's on sensitive types to be vigilant about their own conditions rather than everything in the world being neutered just in case of the rare freak occurrence where something like this happens

[Anonymous No.19991355]

>>19991319
people who have heart issues know to avoid coffee and other caffeneited drinks. charged lemonade is sold as lemonade but (in small print-) contains 4x the amount of caffeine as a cup of coffee. that's pretty fucking negligent.

[Anonymous No.19991357]

>>19991171
she had a heart condition and was explicitly told to not to drink much, if any, caffeine

[Anonymous No.19991380]

>>19991355
>Guys! None of you are listening to me screaming!
>It's "negligent" for people to provide me the products and services I am paying money for!!!
>It's THEIR fault for selling ME products that are marketed, advertised, labeled AND reiterated (even in "fine print" of the EXACT contents!) as being potentially harmful!!
>It's NOT MY FAULT that I chose to consume what I knew was bad for me!
>Stop telling me that, as an adult with voting rights and taxable income, I should have to take responsibility for my choices!!

>IT'S ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT THAT I ACT LIKE A CHILD!!
>Now give me more of what I want!!! GIMME!!
2
0
2
3

[Anonymous No.19991447]

>>19989186
an incel who works at mcdonalds thinks he knows how to change the world. how cute

[Anonymous No.19991466]

Real Tawk, my niggas. I've been drinking 2 energy drinks a day each day for over a decade now. Is my time coming to an end?

[Anonymous No.19991471]

>>19991380
Why is the concept of warning people of possible dangers so they dont fucking die in a restaurant so difficult for you to understand?

[Anonymous No.19991490]

>>19985088
OK, Karen!

[Anonymous No.19991524]

>>19991471
You're just interacting with Panera's new head of marketing, they're trying to be edgy and funny like Wendy's

[Anonymous No.19991652]

>>19991466
Yes but not because of the energy drinks

[Anonymous No.19991667]

>>19991652
Aight, thanks.

[Anonymous No.19991693]

>>19991319
everyone knows what coffee is you retard
no one knows wtf "charged lemonade" is... no one's heard of caffeinated lemonade
even if someone offered me "caffeinated lemonade" I'd expect it to have the same amount of caffeine as green tea or less, not the same amount as a cup of strong coffee or more

[Anonymous No.19991703]

>>19991693
Here's a brilliant idea: if you don't know what something on the menu is, instead of chugging down three cups of it within a minute, you can... ask the waiter??!? Wow! How revolutionary!

[Anonymous No.19991707]

>>19991703
we see you canvassing social media right now trying to influence people's opinions on the lawsuit
it's not going to work

[Anonymous No.19991757]

>>19991693
>>19991471
IT SAYS THAT IT CONTAINS CAFFEINE ON THE FUCKING DISPENSER
NO ONE ISARGUING THAT A BUSINESS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SELL YOU STUFF WITHOUT TELLING YOU WHAT'S IN IT
LOOK
LOOK WITH YOUR FUCKING EYEBALLS AT THE OP IMAGE

[Anonymous No.19991760]

>>19991757
looks like someone needs to cut down on their caffeine intake

[Anonymous No.19991770]

>>19991757
Listen, you're not doing yourself any favors, unpaid Panera intern, no matter how you try to spin this it's still Panera's fault.

[Anonymous No.19991778]

>>19991757
I love to be that guy but that actually raises a good point for blind or the visually impaired not being aware that it would contain caffeine.

[Anonymous No.19992126]

if you need any more caffeine than one normal cup of coffee you have a drug problem

[Anonymous No.19992134]

>>19984164
there is a problem here with the labeling
it says "as much caffeine as our dark roast coffee" which is misleading because people aren't typically drinking 30 oz of black coffee
most people are not aware how much 390 mg of caffeine is vs how much caffeine is in a cup of coffee
people are obviously going to assume a cup of one of these drinks is the same as a cup of coffee and end up consuming much more than they thought they were going to
this is irresponsible on the restaurant's part

[Anonymous No.19992139]

>>19985990
because the coffee you have has little to no caffeine. Most people only drink practically decaf coffee without knowing

[Anonymous No.19992140]

>>19985223
why are you trying to die as fast as possible

[Anonymous No.19992147]

>>19991524
>Panera is now one of the edgier restaurants because of this
heh

[Anonymous No.19992148]

>>19985815
>>19985889
retard

[Anonymous No.19992151]

>>19991205
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.19992156]

>>19991757
The consumer isn't provided any context on how much 390mg of caffeine is compared to a daily consumption level thoughever, so it lacks sufficient labelling

[Anonymous No.19992157]

>>19984164
sometimes if you put your head under water too long you also die

[Anonymous No.19992160]

My new drink contains 5 grams of nutmeg per 30fl oz. It's clearly labelled on the dispenser, if people don't know the toxic dose and drink too much, well, that's their problem

[Anonymous No.19992170]

>>19992156
yes
most people don't know that 390mg of caffeine is about 4 cups of coffee
and most people wouldn't assume that panera bread would be selling a soft drink equivalent to 4 cups of coffee... because it's bizarre

[Anonymous No.19992175]

>>19992170
>because it's bizarre
Honestly this is the thing I have the biggest problem with. There's NO reason to put that much caffeine in it. Put enough caffeine in it so that it's 100mg/30oz? Fine, that's perfectly reasonable. Nearly 400 is so pointless and reckless when it comes to something that's self-serve (or at least was originally).

[Anonymous No.19992187]

>>19990822
My pre-workout powder (designed specifically and advertised as having caffeine in it) is like only 175mg and the upper end powders are 300mg per drink.

this lemonade is the best pre-workout formula you can buy right now, just put some creatine +BCAA powder in it and you're good 2 go

[Anonymous No.19992191]

>>19991171
Cunt water is potentially fucking lethal in enough dosage fuck off, don't drink nearly a fucking gallon of any liquid and expect to not eat shit.

[Anonymous No.19992250]

>>19991357
>she
Oh did you not hear about the second death

[Anonymous No.19992252]

>>19992191
I certainly wouldn't want to drink a gallon of cunt water

[Anonymous No.19992258]

>>19991703
You mean the ones who also didn't know it had caffeine and were suggesting it to toddlers?

[Anonymous No.19992272]

>>19984953

I'd go one step further and remove labelling from caffeinated beverages completely. So a drink could have 3000mg of caffeine per 12oz and you'd never know.

[Anonymous No.19992274]

>>19984217

>if I artistically bring up Jews out of nowhere people might not notice I'm a fucking retard with no self control

[Anonymous No.19992275]

>>19992170
That's not bizarre at all. They put 400mg of caffeine in it the same reason they put 3 cups of sugar in it - they are highly addictive and can poison their customers in a way that causes them to keep coming back. It's a subscription model that you can't easily cancel, that's all

[Anonymous No.19992276]

>>19984164
The FDA is almost certainly going to do something faggy and retarded like they did with Four Loko, dumb American illiterate retard FUCKS have to ruin everything good in life fuck this.

[Anonymous No.19992282]

>>19992272
>One kilogram of caffeine per shot
>no warning labels

[Anonymous No.19992297]

>>19984164
that seems like a lot of caffeine

[Anonymous No.19992311]

>>19984953
Fucking metal
I hope this happens

[Anonymous No.19992317]

>>19987197
I mean yeah but usually it takes 15 minutes for it to take affect
Which actually should be plenty enough time during an hour and a half sitting... Which means they sat there for an hour and a half burning to death and didn't do anything.
Fucking lmao

[Anonymous No.19992327]

>>19992317
do you really think it would take the obese longer than 10 minutes to down a large sugar water and go back for a refill? they'd take longer just to waddle to the drink station

[Anonymous No.19992328]

>>19985415
>corporations can do no wrong
Advocating personal responsibility is not defending a corporation. I've not have caffeine in a very long time but back when I did I would have loved to try this drink. I still kina do but a cup of coffee gets my heart going uncomfortably anymore. Banning shit only makes for a more boring world stfu, don't buy it if you don't like it, and let everyone that does keep it for themselves Karen faggot

[Anonymous No.19992329]

>>19992282
>>19992272
New idea: instead of banning caffeinated alcoholic beverages, require every caffeinated beverage to also contain a minimum of 20% alcohol. Remove all labeling requirements too, so you never know if you're getting 20% alcohol plus 5mg caffeine or 40% plus 5000mg

[Anonymous No.19992343]

>>19992327
Killing fatties should be a civic duty

[Anonymous No.19992361]

>>19984164
>as much caffeine as your dark roasted coffee
>doesn't state how much caffeine is in an average dark roasted coffee
>look it up
>12-ounce cup contains 50-60 mg caffeine
>12-ounce cup is about 354.882 milliliters which is 11.9702 fl oz
>and so 11.9702 fl oz actual dark roast coffee contains 50-60mg caffeine
>11.9702 fl oz of charge lemonade contains 146.63 mg caffeine
>about 265% caffeine when compared to a typical dark roast coffee
>"with about as much caffeine as your dark roast coffee"

Did they slip when they added the caffeine or what?

[Anonymous No.19992364]

>>19984164
>530 calories in a drink
you fatties disgust me

[Anonymous No.19992365]

>>19986126
They is used when referring to objects, ie women.mn2nv8avkw8a

[Anonymous No.19992372]

>>19984953
>Sarah Katz
>Katz
The lawsuit will milk panera dry and other chains will not risk selling antisemitic energy drinks

[Anonymous No.19992390]

>>19992361
>12-ounce cup contains 50-60 mg caffeine
Where did you get this number from.
FDA puts coffee at 80-100 per 8oz.
Your starting values are way off.

[Anonymous No.19992392]

>>19992390
>Where did you get this number from.
Google

[Anonymous No.19992399]

>>19992156
>The consumer isn't provided any context on how much 390mg of caffeine is compared to a daily consumption level
At what point does it become the consumer's responsibility to make sure they understand the words they are reading?

This is a serious question, because you can follow this logic all the way down to saying Panera is at fault because they didn't require a test to ensure that customers knew how to read before selling them anything.

Let's think about this as though we're not literally retarded for a second, and consider that if the company felt the need to disclose the presence and specific amounts of those substances mentioned on the sign, then their amounts are likely significant in some way. If you have no concept of how much those amounts are compared to other drinks containing those substances, what well you do?

>A) avoid that particular drink selection because you don't know what you'd be subjective yourself to and you don't want to blindly consume something when you don't know what it is
>B) use the device sitting in your pocket with access to literally all of mankind's collective knowledge to look up how much caffeine or guarana is considered safe to consume, taking roughly 30 seconds
>C) ignore the sign and drink a gallon of the mystery liquid within the next 15 minutes
>D) shit on the floor because there was no sign telling you not to

[Anonymous No.19992400]

>>19984164

[Anonymous No.19992408]

>>19992275
it is bizarre in that it's a very unusual caffeine content for a soft drink, especially lemonade
it is not something that people would expect
for comparison the "refreshers" at starbucks in the largest size served (venti) contain 90 mg of caffeine
it's safe to assume most people would not expect a popular chain restaurant to be serving a lemonade containing over 4 times that amount
it's unprecedented and strange

[Anonymous No.19992423]

>>19992361
To start with, the amount of caffeine in any coffee varies wildly based on many different factors including the beans, roast level, brew method, etc. so the random number you got from Google is likely not accurate. Giving Panera the benefit of the doubt and assuming they're not just making shit up, you could assume that they measured the amount of caffeine in their specific coffee that they're referencing and used that for comparison.

It's not a great comparison to use anyway just because the wording can be considered ambiguous (do they mean roughly the same amount per ounce or per cup, if the latter then which sizes are they comparing, etc.) but the fact that they list the specific amounts makes that a moot point if you're not a retard.

[Anonymous No.19992428]

I can't wait for fast food restaurants to start requiring you to sign an EULA stating that you are responsible for understanding what the specifically listed ingredients and amounts mean and also they own the rights to your DNA you leave behind on your straws you throw away in their restaurants.

[Anonymous No.19992440]

>>19992428
They will just make online or app ordering a requirement. The last step in the order will be a check box stating that you understand what you're ordering.

[Anonymous No.19992441]

>>19991778
Yeah but these don't have braille on them either.
>>19991319

[Anonymous No.19992446]

>people point out the stuff won't kill you if you're not literally retarded and drink a gallon of the stuff with high blood pressure
>"Panera is being dangerously irresponsible, it's unreasonable to assume people won't drink a literal gallon of it while having high blood pressure"
>Evidence of this is a literal retard with high blood pressure drinking a literal gallon of it in one sitting
Panera you're doing God's work please remove the warning labels

[Anonymous No.19992451]

>>19991778
>How do you make sure a blind person doesn't randomly select a drink dispenser with no idea what's in it and just chug the entire contents within 5 minutes?
Yes a very important question

[Anonymous No.19992455]

>>19992399
Most lawyers and juries usually abide by reasonableness. What is within the knowledge of a reasonable and average individual?

Now, knowing how to read is a reasonable assumption, but dietary/health guidelines probably aren't, which is why half of the country is obese. Disbarring the psyops and literal misinformation fed to the populace over the last 30 years, we can assume that the reasonable average person is likely a tad dietarily illiterate.

So we are in a country that is dietarily illiterate to the point that most potentially hazardous products have disclaimers to not consume if you are sensitive, allergic, pregnant, etc. A product that does not contain those disclaimers, such as the charged lemonade at the time of death, are likely to be regarded as safe by the reasonable average person. Even if the container displayed the amount of caffeine on it, there is no reference to how much a person should consume as the other anon said. People generally might know things like 2000kcal a day and not too much fat or sugar, but know far less about micronutrients and drugs. Now, when these two ideas are placed in combination, we can then tell that the average user, knowing that amount but no warning on it, will likely consume it under the presumption of a safe beverage because there is no warning against it.

>A)
The whole idea to food establishments is that you're placing your trust, in the form of currency, in a vendor to provide you something to consume that won't likely kill you. Those who understand that it can are usually given that caveat such as signing waivers, understanding how much alcohol is in a product, etc.

>B)
That's still an assumption. Although we have a reasonable idea that a person has access to technology, like we said earlier, people generally trust food establishments to provide safe products

>C)
You're providing hyperbole to the case doesn't help your position as it took far less to kill the people (in one sitting) in these cases.

[Anonymous No.19992482]

>>19991703
wait panera bread has waiters???

[Anonymous No.19992486]

>>19992455
>You're providing hyperbole to the case doesn't help your position as it took far less to kill the people (in one sitting) in these cases
No that's literally what happened you nigger

[Anonymous No.19992495]

>>19992156
>The consumer isn't provided any context on how much 390mg of caffeine is
READ, NIGGA! READ!

[Anonymous No.19992498]

>>19992455
This kind of Jewish retardation is exactly the reason people are so ignorant of what they're consuming
>It's not reasonable to expect people to read and understand words before blindly consuming things
You're training people to be irresponsible retards, if shit like this happens and then the people bitching about it get told "hey have you tried not being retarded" then more people might think "oh hey maybe I shouldn't be retarded because I might fucking die as a result". If this shit happens then the people bitching get a bunch of money, the lesson you're teaching people is "you are not responsible for what you put into your body, blindly consume things and you will be rewarded if something goes wrong"

[Anonymous No.19992500]

>>19992495
Is it talking ounce per ounce? Because most people would drink more lemonade than a coffee.

Or is it saying a 30oz cup is equivalent to an 8oz coffee? There is no context for what 390mg actually is.

[Anonymous No.19992501]

>>19991693
>no one knows wtf "charged lemonade" is.
If only there was a sign hanging off the dispenser telling the customer what it is and what it contains.

[Anonymous No.19992505]

>>19992500
You're livestock

[Anonymous No.19992506]

>>19992501
Which weren't put up in many locations until after the first death

neat

[Anonymous No.19992515]

>>19992506
Perhaps the idiots who died thought it meant charged as in "oh I've been charged $2.89 for a drink, now I may drink it."

[Anonymous No.19992520]

>>19992515
Maybe if you didn't put them in the same location the regular tea/lemonade dispenser was sitting 2 weeks previous it wouldn't have been an issue at all.

Even better if you just marketed it as an energy drink that tastes like lemonade.

[Anonymous No.19992528]

>>19992399
This man is wise

therefore he must be punished.

[Anonymous No.19992530]

>>19992500
It literally says in the picture, wtf?

[Anonymous No.19992534]

>>19992486
Looking to the articles, it seems that the man consumed 3 large lemonades. 30 oz is the large size Panera offers. To say he literally drank a gallon when he at most 2.8~ quarts (a difference in over 30% from a gallon, assuming no ice) is not good for any type of argument. In any case, our standards for reasonableness do diminish since we're dealing with the person who exhibit mental deficiencies in this case.
If we compare to the katz case, she only consumed 1, so the point can still stand.

>>19992498
>the lesson you're teaching people is "you are not responsible for what you put into your body, blindly consume things and you will be rewarded if something goes wrong"
The lesson is that both people and companies are responsible, but companies are more responsible since they are taking your money. They are the ones who have to comply with government standards and for companies like Panera, spend millions to research and experiment with potential products, and thus, should know it inside and out. Companies aren't providing these services out of the goodness of their heart, but for revenue, so holding them to the standard that they should be reasonably safe to consume for people of all dispositions unless there is a warning stated is a very easy metric to meet. People wouldn't be as up in arms about this if a man choked on the couch leather of a Panera and tried to sue, because that's outside of the range of products that they expect you to consume. It really is that simple.

[Anonymous No.19992536]

>>19984164
this drink per 8oz cup has no more caffeine in it than regular coffee.

if you cannot figure this out then it is ok for you to die.

[Anonymous No.19992537]

>>19986714
Today I met one mentally ill man I'm not changing my vocabulary for that's for certain.

[Anonymous No.19992542]

>>19992520
>Even better if you just marketed it as an energy drink that tastes like lemonade.
Nah "energy drink" wouldnt go well together with Panera's brand.

[Anonymous No.19992544]

>>19991355
please never breed.

[Anonymous No.19992548]

>>19992530
>with about as much caffeine as our dark roast coffee

again, is that saying ounce per ounce or is it comparing the 24oz or 30oz to an 8oz or 12oz coffee?

It doesn't fucking say.

Am I assuming 390mg is = to 1 cup of coffee?

[Anonymous No.19992550]

>>19992390
he's technically correct. dark roast coffee has less caffeine than light roast.

[Anonymous No.19992551]

>>19992328
you speak like an absolute mong freak

[Anonymous No.19992557]

>>19984164
Ultimately, this is a net positive for humanity for having another option for euthanasia

[Anonymous No.19992560]

>>19992515
>Perhaps the idiots who died thought
no see that's the problem there was no thought involved.

>>19992548
390mg for 30 oz of drink is 13mg of caffeine per oz, 8 oz of the drink is 104mg caffeine. a cup of coffee is 8oz.

the retard drank 3/4 of a gallon of the drink

[Anonymous No.19992566]

interesting
the labelling/warning is ambiguous and some are saying it was there at all originally
many people have probably become ill and suffered heart damage already due to this drink, without it being reported or many of those people affected even knowing or understanding what has happened to them

[Anonymous No.19992572]

>>19992560
Yes, but they don't fucking sell you a 30oz cup of coffee.

They sell coffee in 12/16/20oz sizes
They sell charged lemonade in 20/30oz sizes

[Anonymous No.19992574]

>>19992566
*wasn't

[Anonymous No.19992593]

>>19992550
Yeah, but not by that wide of a margin.
This is some other fuckery for these numbers to be this far off from each other.

[Anonymous No.19992596]

>>19992572
Autism?

[Anonymous No.19992599]

>>19992596
>with about as much caffeine as our dark roast coffee, that we don't sell in a size this large so it's not really comparable

doesn't have the same ring, but at least that would be true.

[Anonymous No.19992601]

>>19992572
>they don't fucking sell you a 30oz cup of coffee.
Ever heard of a Trenta?

[Anonymous No.19992608]

>>19992601

[Anonymous No.19992633]

>>19992608
I know what you're getting at.
But my point is that this size has existed in other shops for a long time now.
The larger issue is also not even the size of the cup itself. The volume he drank greatly exceeded 30oz.

What we need to do is identify the actual point of failure and remove it entirely.
So what are you actually proposing we regulate industry wide?
Removing self serve and free refills?
Prohibiting drinks with a certain caffeine concentrations?

[Anonymous No.19992638]

>>19992536
is it ok for this to be offered in a self serve area where children and teens can have access to it?
is it ok for this to be sold to anyone who is willing to pay for it?
is that also true of alcohol, another popular, dangerous and addictive drug?

[Anonymous No.19992651]

>>19992633
Proper marketing and consistency in placement would be a nice start

They put these next to the soda machines where the regular lemonade used to be and moved the regular lemonade next to the fucking coffee station. When it should've been the OPPOSITE.

Further, if you don't sell a 30oz coffee, but you do sell a 30oz energy drink with as much caffeine as a coffee, it should be much clearer about the total amounts and it should probably also say the FDA recommends a daily maximum of 400mg.

[Anonymous No.19992653]

>>19992560
the apparent serving size suggested by the restaurant is indicated by the size of the cups offered, and as displayed on the dispensers

[Anonymous No.19992662]

>>19992651
I recommend you write your legislator

[Anonymous No.19992666]

>>19992662
No need, i meet with them regularly anyway

[Anonymous No.19992668]

>>19992156
>The consumer isn't provided any context
That's like offering 1 acre of land for €20 to an Australian!
It's almost like someone went to school 13+ years and learned how to measure size or currencies and is expected to have a "good guess" on what a fathom is.
You know, like an adult and not a child.

My first bit of precaution when being offered a drink titled "charged" and seeing "hundreds of mg of caffeine" on its label is to think,
>I should probably be wary of chugging as much of this chemical sugared concoction into my body as I can since I know caffeine is a stimulant drug that can have serious side effects on my neuro/cardio systems to the point of death
.

[Anonymous No.19992675]

>>19992666
>666
lol yes we know, Satan.

[Anonymous No.19992697]

>>19992440
Eventually the government will mandate that all citizens must use their TriCorder and Insignia on their chest to chart everything before ingestion at which point the government, already aware of your personal profile on stature, age, well-being etc., will instantly regulate your entire diet and instantly ban you from ordering anything more.

To keep you safe!

[Anonymous No.19992700]

>>19992651
>A nice start
It's a nice start.
But you know it won't end there.

>and it should probably also say the FDA recommends a daily maximum of 400mg.
Do you know the FDA recommends 50g of sugar daily intake?
Are you aware this guy also drank close to 8 times his recommended sugar intake in the process of drinking that much caffeine? Are you going to start regulating based off of FDA values for that to? Require everyone present their ID before buying granulated sugar in the baking aisle?
I need you to understand just how many poor choices and decisions are required to end up drinking a gallon of ANY liquid in the period of time. This type of behavior requires a literal mental disorder. This man should have been supervised, and not by some fastfood employees. That's where the responsibility falls here and that's the real reason the family is suing.

[Anonymous No.19992718]

>>19985088
nanny state faggot kill yourself

>>19985673
He was a literal downie who drank three quarts of caffeinated lemonade with a single meal, anon.

[Anonymous No.19992721]

Whether the lawsuit has grounds will probably depend on the labeling at the local Panera Bread the guy frequented. If it was clearly noted that the drink has caffeine (like in OP's pic) then the restaurant should have no liability.

[Anonymous No.19992724]

>>19992446
The fact it's free refills leads you to conclude they expect customers to have more than one serving.

So it's pretty much negligence

[Anonymous No.19992729]

>>19992651
I think we should go a half a step further, and mandate that people get chips implanted in their hands. And when they go to order, they have to scan their hand chips to determine if the foods they want to purchase are approved by their doctor.

[Anonymous No.19992736]

>>19991143
but she was Jewish and the death of a single jew, even when it is her fault, will lead to nationwide outcry and billion $ lawsuit

[Anonymous No.19992739]

>>19992651
too sensible

[Anonymous No.19992743]

>>19991447
t. loophole exploiter making the world a shittier place

[Anonymous No.19992774]

>>19992724
>Guys, I tried the "World's Hottest Pepper" challenge today!
>I voluntarily paid money from my income to garner the product advertised as containing a dangerous level of capsaicin to the point of genuine pain in the extreme...
>...because I wanted to!

>But, everyone, LISTEN TO THIS!
>It was too hot!!!!
>It really hurt to take even a single bite!!
>I cried!!
>It's not MY fault I consumed too much of this product, though!!
>It's my supplier's fault!!! They should have told me it was too hot!!

>What? They did?
>COMPARED TO WHAT!?
>I thought it was just their opinion of what "hot" was!! Nothing FACTUAL!
>It was negligence on THEIR part, not MINE!!
>They should have protected me from my ignorance!!

>Okay, now that that's over, I'm going to try a new challenge I've been seeing on Tik Tok:
>"World's Most Caffeinated Energy Drink!"
>The challenge is to drink as many liters of the most caffeinated beverage on the planet!
>DON'T TELL ME NOT TO TRY IT, YOU CAN'T ORDER ME AROUND, IT'S MY PRIVILEGE!
>I KNOW IT'S DANGEROUS, SHUT UP, I WANT TO DO IT!!
I'm glad I share voting rights with these people.

[Anonymous No.19992786]

>>19985729
the first Google result when I searched what this Panera thing was all about is some Jew complaining that we aren't more like the UK, who requires labeling for everything with more than 150mg of caffeine and bans 16 year olds or younger from buying them. these people are deranged.

[Anonymous No.19992789]

>>19992724
This is the argument that will be used to just get rid of free refills entirely.
Our customers are too retarded and we don't benefit from making ourselves liable. So just get rid of self service, charge extra, and then it won't ever happen again.

[Anonymous No.19992848]

>>19992700
bullshit

[Anonymous No.19992849]

>>19992786
>labeling for everything with more than 150mg of caffeine and bans 16 year olds or younger from buying them
that's a good thing and yes we should do that in the united states

[Anonymous No.19992853]

>>19992786
You wouldn't support children buying addictive substances like alcohol, tobacco, or fentanyl so why would you support them buying caffeine?

[Anonymous No.19992860]

>>19992789
free refills are incredibly low margin and get people into the restaurant, i know this board deals in paranoid conspiracies about the restaurant jew, but trust me, no place on earth is worrying about their soda margins

[Anonymous No.19992865]

>>19992399
>This is a serious question
doubt

[Anonymous No.19992866]

>>19992534
>but companies are more responsible
Retard

[Anonymous No.19992867]

>>19992853
because he himself is a minor

[Anonymous No.19992875]

>>19992638
>is it ok for this to be offered in a self serve area where children and teens can have access to it?
Yes, because parents are responsible for their children and should be charged with negligence if they're letting them run around doing stupid shit that gets them killed.

[Anonymous No.19992885]

>>19992423
>but the fact that they list the specific amounts makes that a moot point if you're not a retard.
No normal person can be expected to know what a safe or unsafe amount of caffeine is. Sorry panera bread you are going to cough up half a billion at least for this. Good riddance your food sucks and is over priced.

[Anonymous No.19992888]

>>19992853
not that guy but caffeine is generally a safer drug than alcohol, tobacco and fentanyl. I know this, you know this, lets stop pretending they're remotely comparable 99.9% of the time. Yes all that shit should be regulated, and yes kids should be allowed to buy a nonzero amount of caffeine. Ideally not a fatal amount

[Anonymous No.19992893]

>>19992885
>No normal person can be expected to know what a safe or unsafe amount of caffeine is.
You need to be euthanized

[Anonymous No.19992896]

>>19992875
So why isn't there self-serve alcohol and tobacco?

[Anonymous No.19992900]

>>19992893
Disingenuous liars hunting for (you)'s are embarrassing. Never reply to me again.

[Anonymous No.19992901]

>>19992885
based

[Anonymous No.19992903]

>>19992900
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=how+much+caffeine+is+considered+safe

[Anonymous No.19992911]

>>19992896
Because it's illegal for minors to purchase them, and also because they're high theft risk items.

It is not illegal for minors to purchase caffeinated beverages and they are not high theft risk products generally

[Anonymous No.19992912]

>>19992903
No one should be expected to have to google every ingredient before eating it at a shitty fast food restaurant. I already said stop replying to me, don't make that mistake again.

[Anonymous No.19992920]

>>19992912
They don't specifically label every ingredient at the dispenser, so the fact that they did for this one should make it clear that it's special.

Caffeine is also known to be a stimulant that some people have issues with, this is common knowledge.

[Anonymous No.19992924]

>>19992920
Safe or unsafe levels of caffeine is not common knowledge and no one should have the expectation that a fast food restaurant would be selling a lethal amount of it.

[Anonymous No.19992926]

>>19992896
Or even energy drinks like Red Bull and Monster (though I'm sure a more logical explanation is the cost)

[Anonymous No.19992927]

>>19992920
Yes but they sell a 30oz charged lemonade that claims it has the same caffeine as a dark roast coffee. But they don't sell a 30oz coffee. So am I to assume a 30oz charged lemonade = a 20oz dark roast coffee?

[Anonymous No.19992928]

>>19992903
i dont expect an average, normal person to even know how to spell "caffeine," let alone care about how harmful it is, let alone be willing to look up the fatal quantities of it, let alone apply this and avoid caffeine at restaurants
>but they could hypothetically look this thing up!!!!!
yeah but no one does in reality, hence this dead retard

[Anonymous No.19992931]

>>19992911
this is false

[Anonymous No.19992935]

>>19992924
it wasn't a "lethal dose", it was a sustained chronic amount that contributed to a complication. it's not like if you gave the same kg/mg to a monkey that it would just up and heart explode five minutes later

[Anonymous No.19992938]

>>19992924
If it's common knowledge that can caffeine has unsafe levels for people who have issues with caffeine, and the specifically list the amount of caffeine, and you yourself have issues with caffeine, and you don't know how much is too much, and you just gamble on it anyway, whose fault is that?

[Anonymous No.19992939]

>>19992888
caffeine and nicotine are similar addictive stimulants
vaping nicotine is illegal for anyone under the age of 21 in the united states

[Anonymous No.19992941]

>>19992935
Sorry moshe but you're wallet is going to be much lighter very soon.

[Anonymous No.19992948]

>>19992927
If you're a retard, sure go for it.

>>19992928
It's not my fault you're a fucking moron, I don't know what to tell you

[Anonymous No.19992951]

>>19992885
>>19992912
>I shouldn't be expected to be aware of my health and abilities
>Living in America means flagrant disregard of safety
>And also providing me with extremely unsafe choices
>BECAUSE I WANT THEM, OKAY!?!?
>Now don't hold me responsible for keeping track of how much caffeine I've consumed --- that's too much work for me!
or
>Hello, I'm a child and/or a retard!
>Protect me from myself because I'm likely to make selfishly dangerous choices!

Are you admitting responsibility or are you requesting parenting?
>No, I'm saying caffeine is bad and I hate Panera and therefore it's Panera's fault for selling it to me when I pay them for it.
>Also I love caffeine.

[Anonymous No.19992953]

>it is 2023 and I have a phone that will tell me literally anything I want to know in 3 seconds, I cannot possibly be expected to know what caffeine is

Every one of you need to die for the good of mankind

[Anonymous No.19992960]

>>19992951
you realize this would be even more heavily regulated in most developed countries, don't you?

[Anonymous No.19992964]

>>19992924
>"Contains caffeine"
INSTANTLY I've become aware this product is something I should be cautious of. I can make this inference to my health because I'm not a retard or a child or a pigeon.

[Anonymous No.19992976]

More people die of obesity and diabetes related complications every year. So, why aren't sugars and fats restricted?

[Anonymous No.19992978]

>>19992939
goddamn you are being obtuse to what, argue caffeine should be banned from kids? Im already arguing it should be regulated, is that not good enough? Tobacco (the substance anon was originally comparing to caffeine and fentanyl) has killed way, way more people than caffeine. Stop pretending caffeine should be regulated like opiates and/or other stimulants because one dude died

[Anonymous No.19992981]

>>19992928
It's not my fault you don't know how to swim yet decide to enter a breast-stroke contest. No one is going to stop you; it's your right.
Or isn't it your right?

[Anonymous No.19992984]

>>19992948
>>19992981
yeah I still dont expect randoms to know the safe dosage of caffeine. That is the only point. Random people's baseline knowledge of caffeine doses

[Anonymous No.19992995]

>shitty fast food place does something stupid and has a chance at getting fucked
>/ck/ cries foaming at the mouth terrified that there will be one less mcchicken thread on the board
You retards get what you deserve. Can't wait for mcdonalds to sell the mccocaine burger and kill off half of you fuckers. Watching shills defend fast food mega corps is hilarious.

[Anonymous No.19992998]

>>19992860
They give it out for cheap as free because it doesn't cost anything for them.
That changes once you create liability, though. It's the same reason businesses have to put locks on their garbage cans and are required to dispose of food the moment it expires. Even if it's no cost to them, they aren't going to offer it if it makes them liable.

[Anonymous No.19993010]

>>19992939
Hey, buddy, I'll admit, I REALLY hate regulated drugs. Caffeine, alcohol, nicotine, tobacco, cocaine, Ny-Quil, you name it. I hate carbonated drinks a LOT. I think people who drink coffee every morning or drink Coca-Cola with every meal, or drink a beer every day after work or smoke a cigarette during their break are all extremely unwise humans. These are toxins and they know it, but it "feels good" so they pay for it and eat it.

And they all deserve their awful health state. It was their choice. This is the result they willingly brought on themselves. They literally sought out, among many options, the drink that contained the drug they wanted and drank it until they felt satisfied.

You're advocating that "people shouldn't have to know" when it comes to food and... to get a better health result? YOU'RE RIGHT! People choose to eat AWFUL food for their health in ENORMOUS quantities.
By their own choice. They're idiots. It's not the farm's fault to growing pork if a Muslim eats it. "Kosher" was important to him, not the farm, yet you're asking the farm to set off sirens about pork.

[Anonymous No.19993016]

>>19992848
Nothing I said was wrong.
The guy in this case was a LITERAL RETARD. That's why this hasn't been a serious issue till now.
Because this is not an issue that affects anyone of sound mind or good judgement.

[Anonymous No.19993023]

>>19993016
The previous victim was a 21 year old university student.

[Anonymous No.19993024]

>>19992960
Might as well place all humans in lifepods; it's way safer and better for their health when the government denies them choices to make.
And I mean that unironically, it WOULD be "safer."

Can't say your citizens will approve of such a high-level of intervention, though. You sound extremely socialist.

[Anonymous No.19993026]

>>19992984
And I don't expect to give a shit if they know or not, they were given the necessary information, what happens next is entirely up to them

[Anonymous No.19993036]

>>19993023
One of the two alleged victims was (allegedly) not retarded, guess that means this shit is 100% fatal, kindly ignore all the thousands-to-millions of people who drink the shit each day and don't die.

I wonder how many people have had heart attacks right after stuffing their faces at buffets, I'm thinking they should probably be illegal

[Anonymous No.19993037]

>>19993023
Who acted against medical advice. She was strictly warned of how dangerous caffeine was specifically to her because of her own genetic reaction to it.
And she chose the "Charged Lemonade" with the signs "contains caffeine" despite it. Turns out, that was a very unwise decision to make. But she had every right to make it.
Or didn't she?

[Anonymous No.19993042]

>>19993023
Yeah I dunno if you were aware but 21 year olds are pretty much all retarded.

[Anonymous No.19993043]

>>19993023
Yes, and even the close friends of the student knew and recognized that the drink had caffeine in it.
She knew it was caffeinated but still drank it despite her heart condition.

[Anonymous No.19993080]

>>19993036
>>19993037
>>19993042
>>19993043

[Anonymous No.19993094]

>>19993080
kek

[Anonymous No.19993206]

>>19992978
>Tobacco (the substance anon was originally comparing to caffeine and fentanyl) has killed way, way more people than caffeine.
we don't actually have any good statistics on this

[Anonymous No.19993213]

>>19992978
numerous people have died from accidental caffeine overdoses
and nowhere did I suggest caffeine should be regulated like opiates
I implied that caffeine products should be regulated like nicotine products
anyway you're clearly underage and shouldn't even be posting on this website
get lost

[Anonymous No.19993229]

>>19993213
>numerous people have died from accidental caffeine overdoses
Come on now, we both know those people bought pure caffeine. You don't overdose from chugging coffee or energy drinks, you'd throw up way before then.

[Anonymous No.19993236]

It's cheaper to drink a charged lemonade with sip club than to pay for my Adderall prescription. Keeps me (and others with ADHD) focused and productive.

[Anonymous No.19993241]

>>19993229
>According to the Food and Drug Administration, there have been 34 deaths attributed to energy drinks warranting investigation into the safety of these beverages. Energy drink consumption has been associated with cardiac arrest, myocardial infarction, spontaneous coronary dissection, and coronary vasospasm.
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/JAHA.118.011318

[Anonymous No.19993301]

>>19993241
>34 deaths
That's about how many people die from lightning in the US. Per year.
This is meaningless.

[Anonymous No.19993318]

>>19993241
I wish I could read the FDA study they're referring to to see what underlying conditions those 34 people had (if any) that caused their deaths. But it's behind a god damn paywall.

[Anonymous No.19993392]

>>19985521
It's literally self serve, dipshit.

[Anonymous No.19993395]

>>19985729
And yet you're not allow to sue Pfizer because of side-effects

[Anonymous No.19993400]

If the lawyers suing Panera see this thread in the archive, put my post in discovery :^)

[Anonymous No.19993447]

>>19993400
The idea of lawyers using these posts as a social barometer or God forbid arguments for their case is tickling me pink.

[Anonymous No.19993530]

>>19992853
>cigarettes/tobacco
Caffeine isn't addictive in the way that nicotine is, nor does it cause deleterious health effects like how regular breathing of smoke does.

>alcohol
Alcohol causes deleterious health effects and hampers brain development. Not the same.

>fentanyl
Fuck off retard.

[Anonymous No.19993780]

>>19985285
a tim hortons xl coffee or a starbucks blonde roast large are both pushing that number, stop being a pussy

[Anonymous No.19994097]

>>19993780
Yes but how often do you drink two venti Starbucks coffees back to back?
How about 3?

[Anonymous No.19994118]

>>19994097
Okay, so you want to outlaw self-serve stations and free refills.
Yeah, we get it. That's why we're telling you to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.19994142]

>>19992700
So it's Panera's fault that some woman let her defect out of its cage?

[Anonymous No.19994149]

>>19994142
Did you (You) the right post?
I said the exact opposite of that.

[Anonymous No.19994177]

>>19994118
You literally don't need 1200mg of caffeine which you would get if you drank 3L of their sugary slop, something that isn't even uncommon with fountain drinks.

[Anonymous No.19994487]

>>19994177
You don't get it.
If you try to regulate this at all, all of it is going to get regulated.
Businesses aren't going to go through the nuance of deciding which drinks are safe to give away for free. They'll just remove the option to consume more than the initial payment altogether. Because that is the fastest and easiest solution that allows them to still sell coffee without worrying about someone chugging it for that sweet, sweet lawsuit bankroll.