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19975993 No.19975993 [Reply] [Original]

If you use sandwich bread instead of a proper bun, is it still a burger?

>> No.19976000
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>>19975993
did you put a burger in it?

>> No.19976002

>>19975993
yes, of course

>> No.19976004

it is a welfare burger

>> No.19976022

>>19975993
patty melt

>> No.19976035

>>19975993
too much sauce you sloppy pig, but yes its still a burger.

>> No.19976041

pilpul burger

>> No.19976053

It's a hamburger sandwich.

>> No.19976055

>>19976053
but so is a burger in a burger bun

>> No.19976057

broke burger

>> No.19976062

if you make hotdogs with bread instead of hotdog buns are they still hotdogs?

>> No.19976070

>>19975993
we call them people that do this PWT

>> No.19976079

The original burger place in the US, Louies Lunch, used regular bread

>> No.19976093

>>19975993
It's a Hamburg steak sandwich. It's not a burger unless you use a burger bun.

>> No.19976142

>>19975993
I hear this is popular at certain delis

>> No.19976157

If you serve it on rye with some grilled or caramelized onions and a bit of thousand island on the side it's better than any burger.

>> No.19976161

no, it's a sad dry patty melt

>> No.19976173

>>19976161
>50% ketchup by weighrt
>dry

>> No.19976443

>>19976022
What if no cheese?

>> No.19976508

>>19975993
unsteamed ham perhaps

>> No.19976536

>>19975993
Yes. This is how they serve hamburgers in my local county jail.

>> No.19976542

>>19975993
More of a patty melt now, you should throw the bread in a pan with some butter instead of just using a toaster. Patty melt's are okay, but they just don't quite SLAP like a actual burger.

>> No.19976553
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19976553

The patty makes it a burger. This is a chicken sandwich, not a chicken burger.

>> No.19976577

>>19976553
Looks like a burger to me.

>> No.19976582

>>19976577
Glasses maybe?

>> No.19976588

>>19975993
im highly annoyed by the lack of fresh cut cheese on the burger

>> No.19976591

>>19976542

patty melts are a variety of burgers tho (which are a variety of sandwich)

>> No.19976658

>>19976588
It’s underneath the patty

>> No.19976694

>>19976582
I don't see how adding glass would help

>> No.19976713

>>19976553
There's no hard rules for it. It's what it is depending on what you're used to calling it. To you it's a sandwich and to someone else it can be a burger and neither of you are strictly wrong

>> No.19976732
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>>19976713
It's kinda weird how "burger" works.
In the 30s, the Hamburger Steak became popular, which led to the Hamburger Steak Sandwich.
Which became the Hamburger, and was originally served on ordinary toasted bread.
(Still is, at Louis' Lunch, who created the OG sandwich)
But around the world, "burger" sometimes means a flavour, and sometimes means, meat in a bun.
We have Burger Rings, which are burger-flavour snacks (a tomato, onion, mustard kinda flavour).
But we also have Chicken Burgers, which is breaded chicken in a toasted bun.
In India, McDonald's serves a McEgg Burger.
So.... clearly burger just means sandwich now.
No hard rules.

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>>19976093
The meat that goes in a burger is called a burger.

>> No.19976900

>>19976022
>patty melt
>patty is not melted

>> No.19976910

>>19976093
Hamburg steak isn't a thing, Anon
It was a name that Americans descended from German immigrants used because they thought it sounded fancy

>> No.19976938

>>19976910
There's recipe in le guide culinaire and the book is 120 years old.

>> No.19976942

>>19975993
yup, the burger patty defines the burger, not the bun/bread. you could put a burger in a croissant and i'd still call that shit a burger
however, the second you use any other type of patty, it is no longer a burger (looking at you, aussies and brits, that's a chicken sandwich, not a 'chicken burger')

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>>19976942
What about minced chicken on a burger bun?

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>>19976942
>it is no longer a burger

>> No.19977038

>>19975993
From my australian PoV, that's a toasted sandwich with burger ingredients.

>> No.19978046

IMO the only hard rule for calling something a burger is that it has to have a patty of ground meat. Other than that anything goes and its down to preference.

>> No.19978053

>>19975993
Yes just a burger with untasty corners so you have to be sure to take an extra big bite on the corners to get some meat.
It's also really good, buns SEEM good because of association with burgers but toasted bread very often mogs toasted buns for flavor and texture.

>> No.19978062

>>19976035
>>19976173

joyless britfags
>>19976079
>no one had figured out to put a "hamburger steak" between bread like any other meat for a sandwich until some dumbass came into a sit-down diner with five minutes left on his lunchbreak panicking
is history even real?

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>>19978053
Just make square shaped patty.

>> No.19978231

>>19975993
Yes, just a variation of the hamburger. Because you can use a burger bun for other kinds of sandwiches as well, but they aren't burgers, so it isn't the bread/bun that makes it a burger.

>> No.19978317

>>19976553
wrong
thats a chicken burger
its defined by the bread

>> No.19978325

>>19976553
Why are Americans like this, that's a chicken burger mate

>> No.19978326

>>19978071
ah man now I want a baconator

>> No.19978329

>>19978317
>it's defined by the bread
so you're like retarded retarded. you know they make websites in your native language right? you don't need to be an ESL here.

>> No.19979690

>>19978325
I don't see a burger on it, sorry. We are the authority.

>> No.19979705

>>19979690
No, yo aren't. You can't even get the Hamburg steak part right.

>> No.19979754

>>19975993
Burger is a sub-category of sandwich.

>> No.19979981

>>19979705
Uh, yeah we are bro, this is America, were always right.

>> No.19980296

>>19978062
>brings up Britain for no reason
This place is so obsessed

>> No.19980306

It is whatever you want it to be, "sandwich" is a social construct

>> No.19980322

>>19980296
Nice try but no one else complains about sauce, even Douglas Adams admitted it

>> No.19980526

>>19975993
It all comes down to what you think it is when you eat it. Nobody else's opinion is worth a damn.

>> No.19980608

>>19978062
>history happens in a linear fashion
Wow so surprising. Someone somewhere has to be the first person to do everything. There's a bunch of wierd shit that humans never figured out how to do until early modern times. You know humans didn't invent self-trimming wicks for candles until the 1800s? For 10,000 fucking years you had to sit there with a pair of scissors and manually trim the wick of your candle as it burnt down. Likewise the horse stirrup wasn't invented until 200 AD at the absolute earliest. Julius Ceaser never saw a stirup and rode his horse simply by balancing. Sometimes the "obvious" solution just isn't so obvious until you have the benefit of hindsight.

>> No.19980623

>>19980526
It’s not an opinion. It’s called “burger buns” for a reason.

>> No.19980627

>>19980608
I'm commenting on the extraordinary weirdness of this linearity in particular, telegraph before popularity of ground meat on sliced bread?

>> No.19980630

>>19980623
Well that's your opinion... it has no value to me.