/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.19920262]

Blue-pill me on sushi.

[Anonymous No.19920265]

the heat of the rice cooks the fish

[Anonymous No.19920267]

>>19920262
Hole-in-the-wall places just serve regular raw store bought salmon which is a health risk and you may as well chow down yourself at home.

[Anonymous No.19920270]

Salmon and tuna nigiri are S-tier, there's really no reason for the others to exist

[Anonymous No.19920274]

>>19920262
The best sushi comes from small stands in the mall. Don't try to understand what you're ordering. Select entirely at random and eat it however it comes.

[Anonymous No.19920276]

Went to a place called Sushi Train in Tulsa and they had probably THE spiciest tuna roll anywhere. The servers said it was a rite of passage for new employees.

[Anonymous No.19920292]

>>19920262
It's a piece of fish placed on a a handful of rice with vinegar

[Anonymous No.19920323]

>>19920267
Store bought salmon seared or steamed super briefly is pretty safe. If it's fresh all the bad bacteria will be on the outside. You don't really notice the tiny bit of the outside being cooked. I used to do this a lot when I was a cheap weeb and obsessed with it.

[Anonymous No.19920363]

>>19920276
Sushi sucks in the landlocked areas of the country. It’s just not as fresh. Go to the OCEAN if you want good sushi

[Anonymous No.19920371]

>>19920262
I make sushi at home and spend a fraction of the money. I make spicy tuna and tuna nigiri. Philly roll. California roll. Crunchy shrimp roll and maybe yellowtail. Simple as. Once you get used to rolling it’s not that hard and you can even get fancy and do the rice on the outside and too with sesame seeds. For like forty dollars you can make enough sushi to feed ten people.

[Anonymous No.19920378]

legit question
in toronto there are a lot of sushi places, and they have other items than sushi.... what i am curious about is if they are cooking all these other foods themselves, or ordering them from a centralized location. like the chicken, tofu, octopus balls- all that stuff. cause it all looks and tastes equally like trash most places

[Anonymous No.19920379]

>>19920371
I forgot about the Alaska rolls and also you can use “krab” sticks (pollock) or buy some real blue crab either way it’s bomb. It’s all about preparing the rice correct so it sticks well. It’s all technique.

[Anonymous No.19920383]

I was cutting up some fresh trout the other day and was very tempted to eat it raw. It's the subtle flavor of the meat, the firm texture and the oddly satisfying feeling of biting into raw flesh that makes it such a treat. It works especially well when you're actually hungry.

[Anonymous No.19920403]

>>19920378
Literally trust your gut. Canada is a failed state and all those sushi joints are just selling you pure bullshit in order to extract profit.

[Anonymous No.19920414]

>>19920383
Don’t do this. You will get sick and possibly get parasites or river blindness (rare but it still is a thing). Only salt water fish can be eaten raw. Fresh water must be cooked that’s why salmon sushi used to be so taboo but Norway marketed their farm raised salmon well enough to shift the Japanese palate and the rest of the world followed. I prefer smoked salmon whenever I make sushi rolls. We should have a whole thread about how Norway convinced the Japanese to start eating salmon raw. It’s on par with convincing the Americans to circumcise their children for “reasons”
Marketing is powerful

[Anonymous No.19920418]

>>19920262
Tuna gives you mercury poisoning. Salmon isn't Japanese, salmon sashimi was unknown before the 1980s because of the parasites. The modern seaweed farm industry is based on the work of a British woman scientist (look up "Mother of the Sea"). Your local sushi joint is Korean (possibly with Mexican BOH). That's not real wasabi, it's horseradish with green food coloring. There is no such thing as "sushi-grade" fish. US health inspectors don't know wtf to do with sushi joints, because the entire premise is a de facto health code violation, so you never know how clean/safe the restaurant actually is. ("Just put a disclaimer on the menu, Mr. Kim. OK, I'll take my bribe now.") A super-busy chinky buffet might actually have the freshest sushi because of the rapid turnover. If you're in USA, then the Jap import beer (that you're paying the weeb tax for) was likely brewed outside Japan. (e.g. Asahi is now made in Italy, by... Italians... for the US market.)

[Anonymous No.19920423]

>>19920383
If you want to eat some trout just flash fry in the pan and get a little sear with some lemon and aromatics. Don’t eat it raw anon you can get very sick and I’m not trying to sound like some USDA or FDA gov fag. Eat beef raw eat salt water fish raw but not fresh water fish

[Anonymous No.19920429]

>>19920418
I came here to post this. No one understands the salmon question
HEIL

[Anonymous No.19920435]

>>19920265
>>19920274
>>19920292
Excellent bluebills
>>19920262
Mixing the soy sauce in with green makes it really good and actually useable.
>don't eat the green stuff on it's own, it super spicy!

[Anonymous No.19920436]

>>19920414
>>19920423
The farmed rainbow trout we have here is apparently relatively safe to eat raw but yeah I'm still too cautious to do so. Freezing it first wouldn't probably hurt.

[Anonymous No.19920438]

>>19920270
>tuna nigiri
You haven't had good tuna nigiri sushi unless you've had chutoro and otoro

[Anonymous No.19920439]

>>19920418
Also every fucking sushi place is ran by Koreans I swear to God
Also sardines surprisingly make good sushi and have way less mercury or heavy metals. Their life cycle is much shorter so they don’t bioaccumulate toxins like larger fish.

[Anonymous No.19920441]

>>19920378
most of it is fried bulk frozen shit unless you look at the reviews for a place and people say specifically something in house is amazing or made fresh. for example a place doing shrimp tempura using black tiger shrimp vs cheapo argentinian ones.

[Anonymous No.19920443]

>>19920403
Ya; a lot of the vibe I am getting from these places is that they just copy and paste from each other and sell the exact same catered food + the stuff they actually make. problem is, the best places always are the most yuppie expensive ones. i just need to look around more desu

[Anonymous No.19920444]

>>19920423
That’s a good idea freezing will kill (some) parasites.

[Anonymous No.19920454]

>>19920443
No you just need to get the fuck out of candy before you get caught in a pickle when the Chinese and Americans start fighting for your land. I’m feeling nice today so I’ll tell you. Come to the Ozarks. It is white man’s land. Thank me later.

[Anonymous No.19920458]

>>19920454
I meant get out of Canada. Sorry for phone posting

[Anonymous No.19920488]

>>19920454
we are talking about food here, not your pol fantasy propaganda. cool it with the racism eh

[Anonymous No.19920623]

>>19920363
seafood sucks in general if you're inland. knew a guy who hated seafood and when i asked where he lived, he told me ohio. go figure.

[Anonymous No.19920655]

I tried raw sushi for the first time a week ago, I’ve always enjoyed the California roll and the spicy tuna roll. There is no point to eating raw fish aside from it being a meme, it has no taste or flavor, sushi supremecists get the rope.

[Anonymous No.19920708]

>>19920270
What about bbq eel?

[Anonymous No.19920711]

>>19920655
its all about the texture

[Anonymous No.19920720]

My taste in sushi is really bland. I only really like nigiri and sashimi. People who put vegetables or cream cheese on their sushi are weirdos. I just want raw fish, sushi, and some seaweed. Nothing else.

[Anonymous No.19920723]

>>19920720
Sorry meant to say I just want raw fish, rice and seaweed*

[Anonymous No.19920728]

>>19920418
>A super-busy chinky buffet might actually have the freshest sushi because of the rapid turnover.

No, no they don't. They are going to use cheap farmed fish, and it will be low grade fish. It will taste worse than any dedicated sushi place, including conveyor sushi. But it will be cheap! Also it will be restricted to certain types for the buffet to save money. You definitely will not be getting any fancy or fatty cuts, and I have yet to see bbqed eel on any buffet line.

[Anonymous No.19920746]

>>19920655
>There is no point to eating raw fish aside from it being a meme, it has no taste or flavor
Either I am a super taster, or you've blown out all your taste buds, but each fish type has its own unique flavor.

>>19920711
That's more for octopus and squid, those are eaten for the texture, not taste. It's fucking weird IMO.

[Anonymous No.19920910]

>>19920379
I’d like to try sushi with real crab filling. That sounds pretty awesome

[Anonymous No.19920934]

Love me some sloppa sushi. This ones filled with fried shrimp and topped with tuna, salmon, albacore and spicy scallops. They also make a version with shredded krab instead of scallops that's also really good.

[Anonymous No.19920963]

>>19920403
SUshi restaurants in Toronto are subject to rigorous inspection, they need freezers that go low enough to kill parasites. Also I hope you kill yourself

[Anonymous No.19920966]

>>19920378
Some places will make actual takoyaki, but big chains typically don't.
If you're at an all you can eat style, and they hand you a tablet, they're getting the sides from a centralized location. The biggest tell is when they call have 'octopus balls' instead of takoyaki.

[Anonymous No.19920972]

>>19920966
If this guy wants good takoyaki in toronto he should go to Manpuku in the OCAD food court

[Anonymous No.19920977]

>>19920972
You want to go to any place where you can actually see them making the takoyaki and they aren't charging you more than $6 for a tray. They're street food for a reason.
I was moreso referring to restaurant style though, as that's more typical in my area of Canada (KW-Cambridge-Guelph)

[Anonymous No.19920982]

>>19920977
Well they're less than $6 at manpuku and they have the little takoyaki molds and everything

[Anonymous No.19920983]

>>19920982
I'll keep that place in mind when I go for Anime North then. Always love some decent takoyaki.

[Anonymous No.19921000]

>>19920435
fucking hate wasabi, I'll have to try this

[Anonymous No.19921001]

>>19920378
>toronto
Best downtown Toronto ubereats takeout sushi is Star, near city hall

Best sitdown is the place at Assembly hall, Sushi Kaji in the west end, and the places on the michelin list

[Anonymous No.19921040]

>>19920746
i am telling you that i eat raw fish for the texture

[Anonymous No.19921050]

>>19920488
*shoots your mom in the head*

[Anonymous No.19921103]

>>19920972
awesome i'll check this place out. thanks anon

[Anonymous No.19921332]

German Sushi

[Anonymous No.19921389]

>>19920262
Sushi is for Instagram thots and gays

[Anonymous No.19921409]

>>19921332
Do they put any kind of sauce or something on these?

[Anonymous No.19921412]

>>19920711
exactly, that's why spider rolls are hella good

[Anonymous No.19921446]

>>19921409
No, isnt needed. Only fast food chains are putting sauce in it.

[Anonymous No.19921575]

>>19921412
I love me a spider maki

[Anonymous No.19921753]

>>19921412

[Anonymous No.19922836]

>>19920371
where do you source your fish? i see it in the korean supermarkets but it's $25/lb

[Anonymous No.19922869]

>>19920323
the issue with fish is worms not bacteria. if improperly frozen (or never frozen), worms can be present all throughout muscle tissue and searing would do nothing

[Anonymous No.19922913]

>>19920262
jApAn iS oVeRrAtEd!

[Anonymous No.19923008]

>>19921753
I kek'd.

[Anonymous No.19923027]

>>19920262
>blue pill on sushi
>it doesn't matter how it tastes just stir your wasabi in the soy sauce and dip your sushi in it and eat it
>red pill on sushi
>do not eat it

[Anonymous No.19923115]

>>19920270
Salmon, tuna, mackerel, eel, squid, ikura, and sea urchin are all S-tier you philistine.

[Anonymous No.19923124]

>>19920418
>>19920429
Yeah salmon was not eaten as sushi in Japan before it was shilled by Norwegians iirc. Now it's really popular over there in addition to being relatively cheap. Tuna and freshwater eel are still the gold standards, but salmon is nonetheless a respectable choice.

[Anonymous No.19923129]

>>19920720
This and it's not bland, it's based. When I get sushi I just want to taste the fish.

[Anonymous No.19923131]

>>19920262
Avoid all of it, it's full to the brim with parasites.

[Anonymous No.19923134]

>>19920262
The japanese don't want you to know, the fish in the ocean are free. You can take them home.

[Anonymous No.19924474]

>>19920262
Butterfish/Escolar is the best you can get, just keep in mind it can give you the shits if you eat too much

[Anonymous No.19924520]

>>19920655
>it has no taste or flavor
This is what growing up on a diet of corn syrup does to a nigga's taste buds. Unless you just don't have a sense of taste, sashimi absolutely has a very distinct taste from fish to fish. Maybe you have a sinus issue.

[Anonymous No.19924936]

>>19920418
>That's not real wasabi, it's horseradish with green food coloring
True
>Salmon isn't Japanese, salmon sashimi was unknown before the 1980s because of the parasites
I figured they ate the salmon since they had seasonal fishing for salmon in the north and Karafuto around the 19th-20th centuries. I read that they made oil and fertiliser from the salmon but further reading revealed they didn't eat it raw back then. What a nice post

[Anonymous No.19924997]

>>19920378
go to your local costco or whatever equivilent. check their frozen food section. if it looks familiar, mystery solved.

[Anonymous No.19925006]

>>19924936
>I figured they ate the salmon since they had seasonal fishing for salmon in the north and Karafuto around the 19th-20th centuries.

salmon use to be extreme poorfag food. salmon caught in the ocean is full of worms, large visible worms, and salmon caught in the river tastes like mud because salmon going to spawn basically eat whatever flows into their mouths on accident rather than actively trying to hunt like when they are in the ocean.

[Anonymous No.19925654]

[Anonymous No.19925939]

>>19921332
That actually looks disgusting. Is that raw fish? Pickled? Ugh, not even brits or unitedstatians reach that heights of unappetizing.

[Anonymous No.19926071]

>>19920262
that stuff is way more filling than it looks.

[Anonymous No.19927339]

>>19925939
Its pickled herring and its delicious

[Anonymous No.19928031]

overhyped meme food that is usually made by mexicans or koreans, or both, because it has a high mark-up. the only real way to have good sushi is to get it from a jap-owned place or to enjoy it in japan. other than that, you can easily combine your favorite fish and rice using a onigiri mold (raw or cooked). sushi is mostly popular due to the presentation and taste, one of which you can replicate as long as you have a good seafood source. if you live in the midwest you can still make decent tuna + rice with onigiri mold and it will have that creamy salty taste. at my local jap store they charge about $2 for a tiny little riceball wrapped in seaweed. and if i don't get in a long while i forget how to open it properly. it really makes me mad and of course it's my fault. but i bought a press recently so i will be making my own for much lower cost even though 2 bucks per rice ball is OK, it's just there's not enough fish or roe inside.

[Anonymous No.19929386]

>>19920418
>then the Jap import beer (that you're paying the weeb tax for) was likely brewed outside Japan. (e.g. Asahi is now made in Italy, by... Italians... for the US market.)
but that can literally be applied to just about most beers if you're buying locally and not specifically importing. A Heineken bottle will proudly boast it's brewed in Holland when it was most likely brewed in one of the hundreds of breweries that is not in Holland.

[Anonymous No.19929398]

>>19929386
Don’t remind me. I’m so fucking pissed off I can’t get real Newcastle in the states anymore. Those faggots at Lagunita’s have mucked it all up.

[Anonymous No.19929447]

it's alright. i live in japan, i eat it maybe once a month, usually for lunch on a weekend or something. my japanese coworkers likewise eat it once or twice a month if that

contrary to what disgusting vile subhuman otakus and japanophiles would have you believe, there are no hard and fast rules about how you're "supposed" to eat sushi. drench it in whatever sauces you want, use a fork or your hands if you hate chopsticks, the difference between the 110 yen tuna nigiri at Sushiro and the shit you get at a 20,000 yen per head omakase is not as big as you'd imagine

[Anonymous No.19929464]

>>19920262

Eat it in 日本 or don't eat it at all. Don't fucking soak the rice in しょうゆ; only dip the fish. がり is for cleansing and resetting the palate between pieces and should be used only for that; do not combine it with anything else. Yes, there is supposed to be わさび between the rice and the fish. Drink only water or the supplied 抹茶, absolutely no carbonated or sugary drinks. Express your gratitude to the chef after the meal -- this is more important than you may think. Be ready to give your seat up to 日本人 patrons; you are a guest in their country, and you should seek not to disrupt regular order.

[Anonymous No.19929549]

>>19929398
Just buy Sam Smith's if you can find it.

[Anonymous No.19929552]

>>19929464
based

[Anonymous No.19929658]

>>19920439
i've been to a couple sushi bars run by nips in america
they usually still have a mexican boh or behind the counter doing bitch work though

[Anonymous No.19929660]

>>19921332
>krabben
>full of baby shrimp

[Anonymous No.19930147]

>>19928031
>jap owned

Yeah, I grew up with an amazing Japanese restaurant near me. They were too successful with their American dream and sent both of their sons and daughter through college, so none of their kids had any interest in taking it over or doing anything in the restaurant industry. The elder son owns a computer consulting company and makes bank while the younger son and daughter are both in the medical field.
The dad who was an amazing taisho ended up selling the place to some Vietnamese and the quality went down.
Now it’s just above the level of Hmart sushi, but still way better than the average supermarket.

The old Japanese taisho/owner was a true artist with a knife, and a stickler for detail so it was an experience just sitting at the izakaya and watching him do his magic to the meal you were about to enjoy.

[Anonymous No.19930152]

>>19920262
imagine letting little yellow people trick you into eating raw fish at a markup

[Anonymous No.19930153]

>>19920262
You probably won’t like it and there’s nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.19930159]

>>19930147
Truly he folds the rice over 9000 times

[Anonymous No.19930569]

>>19929464
Have you practice your samurai sword today?

[Anonymous No.19930583]

>>19930569

Have you practiced your English today?

[Anonymous No.19930590]

>>19930583
Yes i had phone sex with your mum whitu piggu

[Anonymous No.19930591]

>>19920262
they all contain parasites

[Anonymous No.19930636]

Best sushi I ever had was at Chinese restaurant

[Anonymous No.19932047]

1. The salmon and other fish is probably nasty on a number of levels
2. Standard sushi is not that good for you. It's mostly rice...
3. Wasabi is not le real wasabi (oh noooooo)
4. The sushi sits there all day and probably has an asian lady's poopoo bacteria growing inside it, besides the parasites that is
Are these bluepills or redpills? Idk lol. It's still probably fine to eat, like who cares bro

[Anonymous No.19932155]

>>19920439
What about pickled herring?

[Anonymous No.19932993]

>>19929464
I'm tall, handsome and charismatic I don't have to care about any customs.

[Anonymous No.19932996]

It's not that great. The same quality fish, cooked, is far superior.
Unagi is good tho.

[Anonymous No.19933010]

>>19929464
Didn't get to kanji yet in your lessons?

[Anonymous No.19933030]

The closes coast to me is about 450km away. Is it worth trying to sushi? Never tried it before, but I doubt it's easy to get it properly fresh.
Or is there some weird thing with fish that I don't know about like even the fresh stuff is frozen anyway.

[Anonymous No.19933039]

>>19933030
Most fish are frozen immediately after being caught

Commercial fishermen have freezers on the boat for that purpose

[Anonymous No.19933056]

>>19933039
Might give it a try at some point then. Is tuna or salmon a good starter to get used to it?

[Anonymous No.19933966]

>>19921332
man I wish I could get a Matjesbrötchen or Bismarckhering im Brötchen right now, that's some good shit

[Anonymous No.19933986]

There is literally nothing wrong with imitation crab meat and I'm tired of pretending it's bad. It's just cured whitefish, it's fine.

[Anonymous No.19933989]

>>19920274
>best sushi comes from small stands in the mall.
oh, look at Mr. Moneybags here....i can only afford sushi from the gas station

[Anonymous No.19934000]

Sushi for me is just one of those things that I'll eat it even when it's bad. As long as it doesn't make me violently ill I'm not gonna complain.

[Anonymous No.19934003]

I wish I knew crunchy rolls were a thing when I was young because I love that shit. Yeah it's not authentic but who cares? It's got a good flavor to it.

>>19932996
Man I could go for some unagi right now. It's like the only time I ever eat eel.

[Anonymous No.19934096]

the redpill is that ingredient quality matters

[Anonymous No.19934102]

>>19933989
get a real job and move up to chain grocery store sushi, pleb.

[Anonymous No.19934192]

>>19934102
Honestly grocery sushi has improved a lot from what it was even just like 5 years ago.

[Anonymous No.19934227]

>>19920262
Fish is good for you and eating sushi gives a sense of superiority over your peers, especially if you know the "correct" way to eat it.

[Anonymous No.19935139]

>>19920262
Typical poor man's food that's been raised to "exotic" status. This is the way Nip fishermen used to eat, when they couldn't cook on wooden boats.

[Anonymous No.19935183]

>>19920262
tuna rolls are amazing but soy sauce is disgusting

[Anonymous No.19935198]

>>19920363
fish for sushi is flash-frozen on the boat regardless.

[Anonymous No.19935639]

>>19920934
macaroni and cheese sushi looks amazing

[Anonymous No.19935764]

>>19920267
>Wah wah tapeworms!
Nothing burger if you live in a first world country where the worm will get diabetes before you do.

[Anonymous No.19935827]

>>19933010
His usage is correct, the terms that aren't in kanji usually aren't written in kanji

[Anonymous No.19936635]

>>19920262
Wasabi and ginger ruin the taste. Make sure you consume the sushi with a tea. Preferably Lipton.

[Anonymous No.19936653]

>>19920262
Sushi is low-tier Japanese food. There's way better Japanese food.

[Anonymous No.19936814]

>>19934192
kroger in my neck o' the woods has surprisingly good sushi rolls.

[Anonymous No.19936827]

>>19936653
Take away the sauce and okonomiyaki taste like shit.