/ctg/ Coffee Time General

[Anonymous No.19915685]

Thread for discussing coffee and coffee-related topics.

Still no discount on Bripe edition :(

If you're new, start here. https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLz
If you're old, stop changing the fucking op.

Previous thread:>>19902238

[Anonymous No.19915701]

>>19915685
PISS
OUT
MY
ASS

[Anonymous No.19915704]

is coffee good for you?

[Anonymous No.19915753]

is that smoked coffee

[Anonymous No.19915890]

>>19915753
think it's bong smoke drawn through coffee instead of water

[Anonymous No.19915893]

>>19915685
guys. i really want a hot girl to piss on me after a couple of cups of coffee.
>imagine the smell.

[Anonymous No.19915925]

What a shit thread. Fuck you all.

[Anonymous No.19915983]

>>19915950
guess you will have to wait for the discount like the other guy

[Anonymous No.19916091]

>>19915612
this does make sense but then again, finland drinks the most out of any country and I'm not sure they have that many great roasters comparatively? maybe they just drink so much that quality doesn't even factor in

[Anonymous No.19916129]

Why has no one invented a decent grinder with easily swappable burrs for pour-overs and espresso so that you can have the best of both worlds without buying 2 separate grinders?

[Anonymous No.19916151]

>>19916129
There are many grinders on the market that let you swap burrs between espresso focused and pour-over focused. Are you talking about swapping between flat and conical burrs? That's a bit trickier, I think there's one or two that do that.

[Anonymous No.19916158]

>>19916129
you mean the niche duo?

[Anonymous No.19916165]

>>19916129
you mean the cafesing?

[Anonymous No.19916343]

>>19916151
>There are many grinders on the market that let you swap burrs between espresso focused and pour-over focused.
Yeah this is what I mean. Pls tell me of some and which one you might recommend.
>>19916158
Seems like a hassle to swap. I meant something you could swap the burrs of daily in like a minute or 2.
>>19916165
Huh... Turns out I'm just not good at finding what I want. This is basically what I was talking about but now I just gotta find out if it's worth it or not.

[Anonymous No.19916405]

>>19916343
>I meant something you could swap the burrs of daily in like a minute or 2
great. you can swap the niche duo burrs in less than 2 minutes if you go slow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEJnoRCiUJE
probably under a minute if you go fast.

[Anonymous No.19916427]

what regions do you guys prefer to get coffee beans from or regions you avoid

[Anonymous No.19916452]

>>19916427
Costa Rica has always been so good and I'm not sure why. #1 beans region for me.

[Anonymous No.19916458]

>>19916427
burundi from the kibingo region
costa rica is pretty consistently great
guatemala
indonesia

[Anonymous No.19916460]

>>19916427
Various from all over latin america. I'm less keen on african stuff.

[Anonymous No.19916662]

>>19915704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rABfboy0h6o

[Anonymous No.19916711]

>>19916427
Ethiopian is my default. I use it for both pour over and espresso. Guatemalan and Columbian are good too, but for whatever reason they're usually only really good for certain brewing methods. I prefer to just have a 1kg bag for all my needs.

[Anonymous No.19916733]

>>19914767
I'm being generous, have a (you)
>caffeine is bad for you
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/coffee-longer-life/

>>19916427
Costa Rica. Gotta support those niggas, they're the only non-shithole south of the border, they even have drinkable tap water. Beautiful country that is now a middle-income country and has nice people

[Anonymous No.19916738]

>>19916711
>1kg bag
how much do you go through per day? I go through about 1lb (~450g) per month

[Anonymous No.19916739]

>>19916129
It's called a wug2 83a.

[Anonymous No.19916774]

>>19916738
Coffee in the morning and in the afternoon for both me and my wife. Pour-overs runs around 9-12g, but espresso will be 18g, so if I'm just making espresso it'll be as high as 72g per day, but likely less.

[Anonymous No.19916778]

>>19916739
niche duo and the mx cool aries are both faster and easier to burr swap than the wug2

[Anonymous No.19916815]

>>19916778
It's 4 thumb screws and a bolt. Wug2 can run 71mm cones, 80mm flats(2 hole and blind), 83 flats,83 cones(probably including the Aries). Duo doesn't do cones or 80mm, Aries doesn't do any flats or 71mm cone. Why would you want to put worse cones in the Aries anyway?

[Anonymous No.19916834]

>>19916815
well it took this retard 4 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9H9mDK0sTQ
how fast can you do it?
you can burr swap in less than a minute 20 with the niche duo

[Anonymous No.19916845]

>>19915685
watching this video, maybe Ill finally learn the right grind size for this thing.

[Anonymous No.19916847]

Let me guess you "need" more

[Anonymous No.19916863]

>>19916847

[Anonymous No.19916923]

>>19916847
I only drink ethically sourced sustainable small batch coffee sourced from equitably paid sharecroppers.

[Anonymous No.19916933]

>>19916847
I need less.

[Anonymous No.19916941]

>>19916834
4 minute swap on the 2021 prototype without thumb screws? Not bad.
>burr swap in less than a minute 20 with the niche duo
And you'll still have the same 83mm grinder. You get how being able to run multiple sizes and types of burrs is a very different thing right. Changing the burrs in a mazzer zm still makes it a mazzer zm. Changing a wug from 71mm robur cones to 80mm dittings makes an entirely different grinder.
>without buying 2 separate grinders
Can you explain a scenario where you'll ever need to swap burrs in a minute? Are you getting stuck in Saw traps often?

[Anonymous No.19916958]

>>19916941
>And you'll still have the same 83mm grinder.
you have missed the point of that anons answer
your wug 2 is not for him
its for you
i can assure you he doesnt give a fuck about all the different kinds of burrs you can get in a wug 2
>decent grinder with easily swappable burrs for pour-overs and espresso
thats all he wants
the niche duo and aries both do that, faster, easier, less hassle.
>but but but my wug is technically the best option
great, you can be the best in the corner alone.

[Anonymous No.19916962]

>>19916941
>Can you explain a scenario where you'll ever need to swap burrs in a minute?
BECAUSE THATS LITERALLY WHAT HES ASKING FOR YOU FUCKING MORON
>Seems like a hassle to swap. I meant something you could swap the burrs of daily in like a minute or 2.

[Anonymous No.19916963]

frozen roasted beans keep really well right
like whats the decay rate on that

[Anonymous No.19916978]

>>19916958
>the niche duo and aries both do that, faster, easier, less hassle.
The aries cone drops out for cleaning, not for swapping. If you wanted to remove, disassemble and reassemble the carriers after dropping out the lower burr you probably can. But its not going to be less hassle. Maybe in the future they'll offer different cones and spare carriers for you to slot in.

[Anonymous No.19916985]

>>19916978
ok so im still right about the duo
and you still are in the corner.
thanks for playing kiddo.

[Anonymous No.19917034]

>>19916962
Hello Im the guy who asked, but now I’m starting to realize my question might be a little retarded and it’s probably better if I just get the K-max or something which works for both espresso and pourover (even though it’s a little more pourover focused).

[Anonymous No.19917068]

>>19916774
>about 200-250mg of caffeine per day and half of it at midday
Does it affect you sleep at all or have you done this for so long that you have no frame of reference?

[Anonymous No.19917076]

>>19916962
>in like a minute or 2
Hoons in your path. Look if the guy said he was training to take gold in the World burr swapping cup(wBSc) I'd understand. Otherwise saving a minute doesn't really help.
https://youtu.be/6vr73UdiyEc
>>19916985
Nope, you're still a tard. Guy specifically said duo looks like a hassle but you want to shill something you have no experience with.
>Seems like a hassle to swap
>>19917034
Solid choice. An anon who used to post here with an eg-1 really likes it.

[Anonymous No.19917223]

>>19916845
See >>19902457. The range is broad.

[Anonymous No.19917290]

>>19916963
plz halp

[Anonymous No.19917311]

>>19914345
>I don't like compromises, I hate pods and capsules, loans, robusta...

NESPRESSO CAPSULES COULD BE HERE

[Anonymous No.19917328]

>>19917290
Months to years. Freezing essentially stops any degassing dead in its tracks so make sure they're sufficiently rested and you're good to go. After that depends on your storage. Vac sealed will keep better than a taped over valve. You don't want any extra moisture working its way into the bag. Frozen green coffee keeps nearly indefinitely.

[Anonymous No.19917342]

>>19915685
What is this exactly? I kind of want one

[Anonymous No.19917358]

>>19917311

[Anonymous No.19917378]

>>19917342
What for

[Anonymous No.19917397]

>>19917378
I'll tell you after I get an answer

[Anonymous No.19917406]

>>19917397
Its lab equipment

[Anonymous No.19917412]

>>19917406
Its clearly for making coffee, stop keeping secrets!

[Anonymous No.19917938]

I'm so torn between the DF64 and the DF83.
>400 vs 640 for the base models
>specialty burrs are also more expensive for the 83
>youtube reviews/comparisons say that the increase in quality is minimal and not worth the increase in price
>BUT I'm worried about buyer's remorse if I go with the cheaper DF64 and get caught up in what ifs [and the 83 has better build quality]
Any thoughts

[Anonymous No.19917953]

>>19917328
>make sure they're sufficiently rested
ive been making espresso for a year wtf did you mean by this

[Anonymous No.19918042]

>>19917953
google
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Py8JOi3REg

[Anonymous No.19918069]

>>19917068
Is it really that much caffeine? ~72g of coffee for 2 people a day. My cutoff for coffee is 5pm, and I sleep fine. I use to drink coffee 3 times a day

[Anonymous No.19918106]

>>19916923
this but unironically. only coops and smallholder farmsteads, only specialty coffee.

[Anonymous No.19918190]

>>19918106
I wasn't being ironic
>b-but you can buy the g-good coffee off Amazon, i-it's on sale
No. I will buy locally. I will pay the premium for specialty coffee.

[Anonymous No.19918259]

>>19917953
Dark roasts degas(and spoil) fast. Light roasts degas(and spoil) slow. Oily beans are coated in plant fats. Plant fats oxidize and skunk up, so drink dark roasts "fresh"(er) off roast. Lighter roasts don't have that issue so you can wait for that CO2 to release. CO2 doesn't taste great. You want to freeze beans at their peak. Freeze too early and they won't reach that peak after unfreezing. Freeze too late and you're stuck with stale beans. Their "peak" varies based on the rate of offgas. Its all preference though. I wait 3-4 weeks to drink or freeze my roasts.
https://espressoaf.com/guides/storage.html
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jafc.7b03310
https://www.wired.com/2009/10/your-tongue-the-carbon-dioxide-sensor/
>Figure 4. Degassing profiles of whole coffee beans (Arabica), roasted to three different roast degrees (light, medium, and dark) at fixed roast speed (a) and at three different roast speeds (fast, medium, and slow) to the same roast degree (b).

[Anonymous No.19918374]

>>19918259
damn great reply, thanks, I appreciate the effort.

[Anonymous No.19918521]

>>19918374
Anytime, glad to help. Not the first time I've had to type it out lol. I should probably just save these replies and save myself some work next time. Offgassing is a variable you can't really control so you just have to work around it. If your beans are continuously changing from day to day its harder to brew consistently. So you wait for that offgassing to taper off. Waiting lets oxygen do what it does, oxidize things. So you keep your beans in a valved bag. Lets gas out of the bag while keeping fresh oxygen from getting in. The roasting/brewing competition guys will compete with fresh coffee, but they'll grind a day or two before they compete to let that offgassing happen way quicker. Doesn't really work for home brewers because you're trying to extend the usable period of your beans. So people buy airscapes/single dose tubes etc etc. Theres a big difference between a month old bag you've been getting into daily and month old doses that have been sealed the entire time.
https://planetarydesign.com/product/airscape-coffee-canister/
https://weberworkshops.com/products/bean-cellar-glass
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M04HGPJ?th=1

[Anonymous No.19918554]

>>19915704
it could be worse

[Anonymous No.19918621]

new hoon kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj819Ak97c4

[Anonymous No.19918670]

>>19918521
>single dose tubes
I can no longer find the glass "spice jar" tubes that I bought from Ikea on their website
They were ~5 leaf bucks for 2 tubes. Sure it's not as cheap as those plastic science tubes but they look a lot nicer on the counter

[Anonymous No.19918870]

>>19918670
>look a lot nicer
Yeah the cheap centrifuge tubes are all function. Most people use those for freezing. I wouldn't put them on a kitchen counter or anything but they're not that bad on my bar. I can get about an lb into a rack of 25.

[Anonymous No.19918900]

>>19918870
I freeze my beans in mason jars and then transfer them to those glass tubes after thawing them.

[Anonymous No.19918967]

>>19918900
I rest my roasts in mason jars with valve lids then split them out to tubes and vacuum bags as needed. I've got a couple kurasu cans for overflow or beans I feel like drinking through quickly.
https://kurasu.kyoto/products/kurasu-coffee-canister-by-kato-seisakujyo?_pos=1&_sid=7eab5c6a2&_ss=r

[Anonymous No.19918976]

I got a bag of preground coffee from my friend. Obviously I prefer beans over preground, but I want to drink this as cold drip. What would be the best setting?

[Anonymous No.19919019]

who do you guys think wins the roasting world championship? I'm guessing norway since they always score high, but maybe indonesia, japan, or austria? I don't recognize any of these roasters

[Anonymous No.19919108]

>>19918521
resting anon, if i get my beans within days of they roast, wiukd you reccomend leaving them in the bag so they can degas?

[Anonymous No.19919204]

>>19919108
Ye no reason to take them out.

[Anonymous No.19919285]

>>19918967
Seek help

[Anonymous No.19919322]

>>19915685
Surely that's a bong.

[Anonymous No.19919330]

>>19919322
its a reverse bong

[Anonymous No.19919334]

first coffee in 48 hours
feels good

[Anonymous No.19919338]

>>19919334
need to grind finer.
its under extracted
tasted like sucking on the seed of a stone fruit.

[Anonymous No.19919558]

I made cold brew
Cheers

[Anonymous No.19919564]

>light theme

[Anonymous No.19919676]

>brave

[Anonymous No.19919682]

>>19919558
That's not cold brew that's my piss

[Anonymous No.19919689]

>>19919558
nice wrist circumference bro, lookin solid

[Anonymous No.19919694]

>>19919564
Dark themes almost always suck. I only use one for youtube so I can easily differentiate youtube tabs open in incognito mode and ones that aren't.

[Anonymous No.19919707]

>>19919694
have you tried the tomorrow style?
thats what i use
probably one of the better dark themes for a website.

[Anonymous No.19919713]

>>19919707
>>19919694
same tomorrow is kino

[Anonymous No.19919741]

>>19919707
I'm sticking with yotsuba b

[Anonymous No.19919812]

>>19919741
>hmm yotsuba b? lets give that a tr-

[Anonymous No.19919856]

I want little espresso cups that have matching plates. Anyone know of some aesthetic cups?

[Anonymous No.19919879]

>>19919856
https://loveramics.com.au/collections/coffee-cups/products/bond-80ml-cup-saucer
https://loveramics.com.au/collections/coffee-cups/products/egg-80ml-cup-saucer-classic-colours
https://loveramics.com.au/collections/coffee-cups/products/egg-80ml-cup-saucer-potters-colours

[Anonymous No.19919881]

>>19919856
https://www.rosenthal.de/en-gb/dining-collections-versace/dining-collections-versace.html

[Anonymous No.19919897]

>>19919881
fag

[Anonymous No.19919903]

>>19919897
got

[Anonymous No.19919944]

>>19919881
>https://www.rosenthal.de/en-gb/dining-collections-versace/dining-collections-versace.html
thanks the medusa gold selection is exquisite

[Anonymous No.19919950]

>>19919944
yeah me and all my fellow whites love rosenthal diningware

[Anonymous No.19919971]

>>19919950
all can enjoy rosenthal diningware.
t. selfie with my rosenthal diningware

[Anonymous No.19920025]

Is there an more detailed guide to changing steam wand on cheaper machines like this somewhere out there? I have machine very similar to this one, I just want to know what exactly I'll be looking at
https://youtu.be/hkkUTgwLuH8?si=FqYrpbYBJIhfGPwU

[Anonymous No.19920043]

>>19920025
You want a video guide on
>HOW TO INSTALL A RANCILIO STEAM WAND - DELONGHI DEDICA - Fully Explained in English
?

[Anonymous No.19920044]

I put a starbucks pod in my keurig this morning

[Anonymous No.19920056]

>>19920044
>keurig
i'm sorry

[Anonymous No.19920060]

>>19920056
I don't want some dumb espresso larp I drink black drip coffee cringe ass hipster bitch

[Anonymous No.19920192]

>>19920060
>I drink black drip coffee
cool

[Anonymous No.19920246]

>>19919204
my thought process was to immediately get them in airtight containers so as to preserve the freshness

[Anonymous No.19920247]

>>19920043
Oh yeah, that's what I was searching for, I unironically didn't look into the recommended underneath deeper

[Anonymous No.19920382]

>>19920246
That's what the one-way valve is for on the coffee bag
It let's CO2 out but keeps additional air/O2 from going in

[Anonymous No.19920394]

>>19920382
i knew that was there but i misunderstood its purpose

[Anonymous No.19920521]

Is Nicaragua a good coffee region?
How does /ctg/ choose a new coffee to try?

[Anonymous No.19920853]

>/Grain in all its forms : what audacity!/
>The grain in all states is a real crazy bet for our master roaster. It mixes three coffees with a unique process, from a single farm. It is with the Ferrufino family that we find these rare pearls. The secret of our daring blend? A mixture of three processes making the final taste complex, coming from the same farm to guarantee perfect homogeneity! The Ferrufino family has been growing coffee since 1992 on their “Aurora” farm, committed to supporting a local ecosystem.

>/The family farm/
>The grain comes exclusively from the Aurora family farm. It is in the heart of the Matagalpa region, between 1,200 and 1,400 meters above sea level, that Enrique Ferrufino manages the coffee culture with his family. Equity is a fundamental value for the family, which is why, since 2004, it has been committed to investing in fair wages, safer living conditions and education.

>/Our unique blend/
>Our No. 2 blend of Audacious Blends is based on three processes of the Parainema variety, still little known today: Honey, Natural and Washed. By bringing together three processes from the same farm, we obtain a coffee with a fruity and gourmet character, accompanied by pronounced aromas of red fruits. Finca Aurora is known for its extremely complex terroirs protected from high temperatures.

First sip today as an ristretto (1:1.6 extraction) no sugarn no milk.
Super tasty. The acidity is present and pleasantly balanced, the red fruits aromas are adjacent but really hard to discern what kind of red fruit with a ristretto. Will be brewed tomorrow as a café crème (1:10 extraction) as always. I suspect this "audacious blend" to be as complex and savory as the first one i tried, the "audacious blend n°3, Botanical Varieties" whose beans are also from my bro Enrique Ferrufino.

>>19920521
>Is Nicaragua a good coffee region?
until now i liek
>How does /ctg/ choose a new coffee to try?
YOLO the roaster's offering whilst staying within the budget.

[Anonymous No.19920905]

>>19920247
kek i wasn't sure what you were searching for.
some more info https://gist.github.com/movd/8956741018da0054820d4215c17f00d1
Godspeed

[Anonymous No.19921097]

is there any compelling reason not to just keep my beans frozen until i want to use them?

[Anonymous No.19921111]

>>19920521
>Is Nicaragua a good coffee region?
Yes

[Anonymous No.19921221]

>>19921097
Some high on the 'tism coffee shops do that
https://youtu.be/9YUFe4eQYnk?t=177

[Anonymous No.19921404]

>>19920060
Wouldn't a normal coffee machine be better for that, and cheaper, and produce less trash?

[Anonymous No.19921437]

Any good espresso machines going on sale for Black Friday?

[Anonymous No.19921489]

>>19921221
if the coffee has been frozen, it's dogshit
the second you freeze the beans they're ruined
>b-but it keeps them good longer
No. They should be shipped in the minimal amount of time, roasted and then consumed immediately. Especially if it's a limited time pop-up shop with hype around it and not a permanent fixture. Get your beans in, roast them, let them off-gas a bit, and then sell them within a week grinding them only as necessary.
If they are less fresh at the end of the week, that's on the customers who were too stupid to come in sooner.

[Anonymous No.19921842]

>>19921489
this is pseud shit, the foremost experts in brewing, cupping and top barista competitors disagree with you, you do not know better

[Anonymous No.19921873]

mfw i only want coffee at like 3pm and i know it will keep me up all night

[Anonymous No.19922111]

>coffee instructions
>brew 1.5 tablespoons for 6 oz coffee
>machine shows cups
>cups are 8 oz
i dun undertant

[Anonymous No.19922131]

>>19922111
>digits realizing italians are retarded

[Anonymous No.19922163]

>>19922111
have you considered lobbying for an adoption of the metric system?

[Anonymous No.19922171]

>>19922163
US customary units are defined in terms of metric

[Anonymous No.19922175]

>>19922171
that still just introduces a layer of abstraction from useful units.

[Anonymous No.19922183]

>>19922111
Italian cups are 5oz, US cups are generally 8oz

>>19922175
It's easier to say 8oz than 236ml, or 0.2l, dl never even caught on

[Anonymous No.19922201]

>>19922183
no it isn't. 20 cl or 2dl is much easier and converts much better to ml, and is used all the time. breaking down or adding up OZ is much trickier, just generally less precise and shittier. 250ml is much easier to write than 8.45351oz

[Anonymous No.19922363]

indonesia won the world coffee roasting championship

[Anonymous No.19922384]

>>19922363
Is it safe to stop parroting Hoffman's takes? Can he go back to drinking tea?

[Anonymous No.19922393]

>>19922384
huh? do you think big brewers like square mile even participate? they don't, at best they'll cooperate with brewers cup and barista championship candidates. so no, you still have to listen to one of the top 3 foremost experts on coffee in the world says, it's for your own good

[Anonymous No.19922396]

>>19922363
im not drinking phin and you cant make me

[Anonymous No.19922401]

>>19922396
roasting competitions are judged through conventional cuppings, and I think he used a typica arabica, not a disgusting robusta

[Anonymous No.19922436]

N I G G E R
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[Anonymous No.19922520]

>>19922393
In the words of Peter Griffin, "I don't know who any of those people are".

[Anonymous No.19922525]

>>19921111
Is Chiang Mai a good coffee region?

[Anonymous No.19922598]

Quick, recommend a bean to cup machine capable of good capuccino for home use to someone who watched James' video and thought they were all dogshit (that is available in germany).

[Anonymous No.19922611]

>>19922598
no

[Anonymous No.19922803]

>>19922598
text me bro ill help you

[Anonymous No.19922808]

>>19922803
thx bro check your inbox

[Anonymous No.19923019]

I love drinking coffee. I had five cups today and then sharted all over my chair and it even ran down my leg. Now my boyfriend can get that mocha cum caffeine poz lube feel as he deep dicked me for an hour in my rank slimy bubble ass without even having the chance to wipe myself off and shower while DJ fell fell played in the background. I'm straight btw. He hit me with the plapplapplap SQUISH uguuuu

[Anonymous No.19923023]

If I make mostly lattes with my Breville Bambino and I'm pretty happy with the results is there really a reason to upgrade to something like the Profitec Go? It seems like a lot of diminishing returns and that $1000+ is all about very subtle nuances of straight espresso and if you like your espresso flavored steamed milk as derisive as it is you're not going to notice the difference.

[Anonymous No.19923068]

>>19923023
>Profitec Go?
It seems like a really good espresso machine for the price (sub 1000) but I always hear how good the Breville Dual Boiler (1400) is. I don't know if Bambino => Profitec is enough of an improvement for it to be worth ~900 dollars

TL;DR
Bambino is really good, and if you're going to be spending over 800 dollars on a new machine I feel like the Profitec and Rancilio Silvia aren't a big enough upgrade to be worthwhile

[Anonymous No.19923075]

>>19923068
I know the BDB is the go-to but reading all the material and experiences out there it seems like it has design flaws and your machine *will* have parts break that are expensive to get replaced/repaired. And for almost $2k after taxes (Breville raised the MSRP to $1600 this year) the material quality of the BDB is pretty insulting (mostly plastic)

[Anonymous No.19923150]

>>19923075
Main point still stands, I don't think that Bambino => Profitec is worth paying 900 dollars for. That's just my opinion though, if I were to be upgrading my $500 espresso machine I'd probably go for a truly endgame machine, people who go from beginner machines => intermediate machines almost always end up upgrading to an endgame machine down the line so why not cut out the unnecessary mid-grade?

[Anonymous No.19923186]

>>19921842
you cannot freeze beans
the expansion of water and creation of ice crystals WILL ruin the structure of the bean
they are going to be soggy and destroyed when you thaw them

[Anonymous No.19923452]

>>19923186
Buy a vacuum sealer dipshit.

[Anonymous No.19923463]

I have a jx-pro grinder with a flair neo with bottomless portafilter. I love the setup but i wish i could do cappucinos and the only standlone frother is the bellman which i kinda hate conceptually. Should I just get a cheap delonghi or whatever espresso machine and ditch the flair so i can have the frother on the side or will i regret it.

[Anonymous No.19923465]

>>19923452
just ignore the delusional schizos. it's not hard.

[Anonymous No.19923488]

>>19923463
>microwave milk
>beat the shit out of it with a whisk
>??????
>cappuccino

[Anonymous No.19923495]

>>19923463
Blender stick with whisk attachment

[Anonymous No.19923498]

>>19923495
>>19923488
froth isnt the same as steam.

[Anonymous No.19923500]

>>19923463
>the only standlone frother is the bellman
You sure about that?

[Anonymous No.19923504]

>>19923500
i meant milk steamer not frother sorry

[Anonymous No.19923522]

>>19923504
>the only standlone milk steamer is the bellman
You sure about that?

[Anonymous No.19923715]

Not the anon who asked, but this is the only reasonably priced countertop milk steamer I found after a quick search. Dualit Cino: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqgKHeQHdsA
Every other standalone milk steamer I came across was too expensive and bulky to justify for domestic use.

[Anonymous No.19923749]

Can someone tell me what a good farm to table expresso machine might be for less than $600?
I want to complete the circle and maximize my contribution to the coffee bean transition matrix.

[Anonymous No.19923771]

>>19923715
£250
Dualit doesn't seem to sell it outside of the UK, so with shipping to North America it would be around $350 USD + any applicable import tax.

[Anonymous No.19923795]

>>19922163
and listen to the french?!

[Anonymous No.19923823]

>>19923715
>quick search
tell me about it

[Anonymous No.19923831]

>>19922175
>useful units.
lmao
>Why yes I measure based upon how many millionths of distance from the equator to the pole, all other units are derived from this

[Anonymous No.19923858]

>>19923823

[Anonymous No.19923958]

>>19923858
Mental illness in display

[Anonymous No.19924014]

>>19923958
Loads of DIY milk steamers from moka pots on the 'tubes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTZHXK2n6Uc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojj7PMgOhUA

[Anonymous No.19924021]

>>19923958
There's a dude who keeps on popping up on my youtube shorts. He has
>Lagom P64 gridner (2,650.00)
>Moonraker [WDT tool] (500)
>lots of other miscellaneous expensive espresso tools
And his espresso machine...
>A Flair 58x, the one that doesn't have any heating

[Anonymous No.19924045]

Can I use #4 cone filters on my V60 03?

[Anonymous No.19924094]

>>19924014
Just drink black coffee lmao

[Anonymous No.19924112]

I want to make milk drinks but I don't want to drink them.

[Anonymous No.19924114]

>>19923823
>needs a separate heat source
It's conceptually the same as a bellman which >>19923463 said he didn't want.

[Anonymous No.19924155]

>>19924114

[Anonymous No.19924181]

>>19924155
Not a steamer. Just a frother. One of those small handheld blenders with a wisk attachment do the same thing with more control and less cleanup.

[Anonymous No.19924191]

>>19924181

[Anonymous No.19924320]

>>19924155
This nigga is built like a groyper

[Anonymous No.19924340]

>>19923498
yeh, its better.
steamed milk is trash
frothed milk is based

[Anonymous No.19924414]

>>19915701
Yeah, piss out your ass right into Kyle's mom's fucking jew face.

[Anonymous No.19924813]

>local roaster has black friday 40% off

[Anonymous No.19924819]

Espressooutlet shipped my df64 with ssp high uniformity burrs today. Woo

[Anonymous No.19924903]

>>19923186
you're supposed to freeze them in a vacuum dumbass, that's why you freeze them in small containers rather than just taking portions from a single frozen batch

[Anonymous No.19924913]

I genuinely can't believe anyone would drink dark roasts when a good nordic style light roast has so much more flavor. I get we don't all have the same budgets but you can just enjoy smaller cups

[Anonymous No.19925005]

>>19924819
you ARE going to post pics when you get it right anon?

[Anonymous No.19925046]

just how bad is the k0 for it to not even make the chart?

[Anonymous No.19925081]

>>19925046
its a biased chart, dont worry about it.

[Anonymous No.19925100]

>>19925046
It's a cheaper timemore c2. K1 is worth looking at though.

[Anonymous No.19925128]

>>19925100
hows does the k2 compare to the k1? its only 10 bucks more rn

[Anonymous No.19925155]

>>19924819
Why'd you choose the 64 over the 83?
t. trying to decide between the two

[Anonymous No.19925178]

>>19925128
k2 is a 48mm uncoated k3/4 burr with bigger steps, so basically a 1zpresso jx. k1 is a 38mm burr that looks like what the aergrind uses. If you're looking at the k2, I'd highly recommend just getting a k4 for the external adjustment.

[Anonymous No.19925189]

>k6 not available on amazon canada
>23USD shipping & import deposit
Almost certain this is still the best deal for a manual grinder in canuckistan

[Anonymous No.19925557]

TIMEMORE Chestnut C3 PRO is on sale for black friday still. Worth it over the C3? (C2 and C3 are not discounted)

[Anonymous No.19925564]

>>19925557
lol nvm these things are fucking expensive on Amazon for no reason. I'll buy something better off Ali

[Anonymous No.19925569]

>>19925557
>TIMEMORE Chestnut C3 PRO
the way you capitalized everything correctly makes this feel like viral marketing

[Anonymous No.19925579]

>>19923858
Why not just get a GCP or something at that point?

[Anonymous No.19925618]

What's the cheapest electric grinder that can dial in espresso but also produce somewhat decent filter grinds?

[Anonymous No.19925640]

>>19925618
weber hg-2

[Anonymous No.19925648]

>>19925640
he said electric anon

[Anonymous No.19925660]

>>19925648

[Anonymous No.19925661]

>>19923958
>>19924021
>>19925579
might as well get a plugin all-in-one espresso machine at that point

[Anonymous No.19925665]

>>19925661
Very scrumptious looking pastry, but wtf is up with the colour on the drink back there? Why does it have a greenish hue?

[Anonymous No.19925699]

>>19925660
thats not the hg-2 tho

[Anonymous No.19925702]

ROEST or Bullet?

[Anonymous No.19925745]

>>19925155
I drink 2 espressos daily. Plain espresso shots. I read somewhere 83mm burrs isn't ideal for my usage. Don't really need the bigger burrs I guess.

[Anonymous No.19925823]

The local roaster I was ordering from bumped their 1lb pices up to $26, which is a little too much for me. Quality has gone down the past few years too.

Can anyone recommend me a new roaster with decent beans for a good price? Light african's are my favorite. Bonus points if you can recommend a good sumatran since I've never tried it and would like to.

[Anonymous No.19925827]

>>19925823
Would help to know your use case

[Anonymous No.19925846]

>>19925827
I drink it? Not sure what you're asking exactly.

I buy whole bean, have a decent electric burr grinder, and brew either pour over or aeropress.

[Anonymous No.19925850]

>>19925846
Quick follow up. I'm looking for good single origin light roasts, but ones that are "good enough" for someone who loves coffee, if that makes sense. Think daily drinker. I was wrong when I said $26, it's actually $32 at my old place. That's a lot of cash a month for coffee.

[Anonymous No.19925928]

>>19916963
frozen food doesn't 'decay' at all. it only does on auto defrost freezers because it's essentially unfreezing it for a short period and then refreezing.

[Anonymous No.19925960]

Can anyone recommend me single serve 18g storage containers for beans to store in my counter. Not looking to spend a ton of money.

[Anonymous No.19925964]

>>19925960
These ikea spice jars >>19918670

[Anonymous No.19926060]

New hoffee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOMYBcvY5-Q

[Anonymous No.19926120]

>>19926060
This guys a clown

[Anonymous No.19926193]

gin in coffe y/n?

[Anonymous No.19926451]

Flairs on a one day sale. Get em while they're hot. Neos are $89, 58s are $464 and up.

[Anonymous No.19926634]

>>19924813
If them beans good then its goffee time >:^)

[Anonymous No.19926686]

>>19923858
I totally understand that people want a nice foamy milk for their cappuccino. But for real, at that point just buy an all in one barista machine and be done with it.

[Anonymous No.19926701]

REMINDER
Coffee is not a hobby, it's consumerism
"""Experts""" online only exist to sell you things
Bean juice is not complicated, and you're overpaying when you could roast it yourself.

[Anonymous No.19926709]

>>19926193
For me, it’s rum

[Anonymous No.19926737]

>>19926701

[Anonymous No.19926756]

anyone have any opinions on Hario grinders?
they seem much cheaper than espresso grinders but i assume thats because of pourover just being less expensive in general rather than inferior build quality
for reference i am the guy been asking about grinders, i mostly want it for pourovers but i am going to get a moka pot soon so i want to be able to grind for that too

[Anonymous No.19926784]

>>19926756
Dogshit. They use ceramic peppermill burrs from kyocera. Avoid at all cost. When you ask about porlex next I'm going to ignore you.

[Anonymous No.19926823]

I think I'm going to go with a DF64 [v2]. Tell me why I should get something else.
>$400
>flat burrs
>good for both filter and espresso
>option to upgrade burrs down the line
>single dose, low/zero retention

[Anonymous No.19926853]

>>19926756
Just get a kingrinder

[Anonymous No.19926880]

>>19926853
im probably gonna

[Anonymous No.19926894]

>>19926823
Save your money

[Anonymous No.19926904]

>>19926894
For what, the DF64 v2 seems to be an amazing price:performance machine

[Anonymous No.19926912]

>>19925618
https://youtu.be/Tvi73Ygcfss?si=8_DZfPfptudJ8UVt

[Anonymous No.19926941]

>>19926823
>single dose
you lonely bro? no family?

[Anonymous No.19926964]

>>19926193
no
just have them separately
you will enjoy them more on their own
drink coffee :)
drink gin :)
drink coffee with gin in it :(

[Anonymous No.19926975]

>>19926451
>58s are $464 and up.

[Anonymous No.19927091]

>>19925960
50 ml centrifuge tubes are the cheapest way to go. ~$15 for 25 doses. I do 16.5g in the ones I linked earlier
>>19918521
but I've got some headspace so depending on the bean you should be fine at 18g. I think the flat bottoms ones without a rack cost a little more. Might look a little better on your counter.
>>19925850
Get the wuri grade 0 while he still has some.
https://www.swroasting.coffee/shop/single-origin-coffees-lighter-roasts-/2

[Anonymous No.19927149]

>>19926634
It's going to be goffee time for some time then and i won't be the one complaining.

[Anonymous No.19927431]

>>19926784
>ceramic peppermill burrs from kyocera
and what exactly is bad about that
im Genuine curios

[Anonymous No.19927435]

>>19926904
two rocks you can find outside are the king of price to performance
depending on which ones you pick it'll have even better geometry than most burrs
also they last a lifetime, you'll never have to buy another grinder again

[Anonymous No.19927456]

>>19923823
ikr

[Anonymous No.19927460]

>>19927431
I was going to write out a long comment with a couple pictures of different burrs to show you, but I think its funnier to let you buy one and find out yourself.
https://espressoaf.com/guides/burr_catalog.html

[Anonymous No.19927766]

ITS UP!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQO-YFeA6eI

[Anonymous No.19927865]

>>19927766
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.19927879]

>>19927091
Appreciate ya, I bought them. Sterile lab grade plastic, matching tray, air tight seal.

[Anonymous No.19927882]

>>19927865
:)

[Anonymous No.19927939]

>>19926737
disgustingly over-roasted

[Anonymous No.19927940]

>>19926756
just a step too bad to even be a good choice for entry level.

[Anonymous No.19927943]

>>19927431
aside from the unevenness and excessive amount of fines, they just can't cut for shit, you'll be grinding 4 maybe 5 times longer for the same amount of coffee as a better handgrinder

[Anonymous No.19927984]

Moka-frà did you end up visiting the caffè?

[Anonymous No.19928013]

>>19927766
So after all that bitching and moaning in the first one he likes it?

[Anonymous No.19928048]

>>19927940
the pro specifically or Hario grinders in general?

[Anonymous No.19928163]

>>19928013
you mean after he spent months with it and lovingly repaired it?
yes

[Anonymous No.19928169]

>>19916847
I unironically used to drink this with room temp water and no sugar when I was working and I was too lazy to make anything better.

[Anonymous No.19928191]

>>19917938
Add the 64V to your considerations - its build quality is closer to the 83 but you're still using cheaper burrs if you want to fuck with different ones, you've got RPM available should you want to experiment with that, and it's got a smaller footprint.

[Anonymous No.19928208]

>>19928163
>spent months with it
>a straight forward job that ought to have taken hours
Turns out its a chore to source parts for a 10 year old piece of industrial equipment you bought third-hand at auction. Who knew?

[Anonymous No.19928237]

>>19928208
it wasn't hard, he said mahlkonig were very difficult to work with
if they weren't cunts it would be simple
and yes he literally has spent months with it, i didnt say he spent months fixing it
also when you fix something and really make it shine you will have more positive feelings to it.
at the start he just got it, hadn't really worked on it yet, hadn't really used it yet and didnt like it.
shocker.

[Anonymous No.19928294]

>>19928237
Hemro is great about offering repairs through their distributors. They're not great at giving people, who may or may not know what they fuck they're doing, parts and encouraging them to open up a 1300w/12a machine. Pretty standard behavior when you're dealing with industrial/commercial vs consumer. Its not an Encore. TWG just didn't want to pay for service and wanted to make some content.

[Anonymous No.19928366]

>>19928294
>to make some content.
thats not true
none of that hassle is in the video he just says it was a hassle and then moves on.
i hardly call that "content" and he did it while he was on break.
> They're not great at giving people, who may or may not know what they fuck they're doing, parts and encouraging them to open up a 1300w/12a machine.
why the fuck do they care other than "forcing" you to pay them to repair the machine?
its an old second hand machine anyway, its far past warranty and what some random user does with it should be of no concern to them.
twg does like to save money where he can, that is a running theme of the channel but i dont think that played any part in this process.

[Anonymous No.19928461]

>>19928366
The running theme is he's a coffeepsued. Journo; culinary polymath; international coffee personality.
>Part 1: Is MK too scared of my potentially SCATHING review to answer my emails?
No dipshit. You're not their customer. You're a youtuber they've never heard of who bought some shit at auction. Talk to a distributor.
>Part 2: These mk servicers/distributors are great! I love the machine, I was able to source everything I needed and the insulation I cried about wasn't a big deal.

[Anonymous No.19928482]

you sound uncaffeinated.

[Anonymous No.19928517]

>>19928482
Sipping on some Kedir Hassan washed Benti Nenka. WBU?

[Anonymous No.19928526]

>>19928517
I'm drinking coffee.

[Anonymous No.19928541]

>>19928526
Cheers.

[Anonymous No.19928551]

DF64 v2 is on sale for $330. I think I'm gonna go for it

[Anonymous No.19928655]

>>19925665
That's not even coffee, it's probably green chai latte

[Anonymous No.19928931]

>>19927431
The steel burr ones are faster and easier on the hands.
I've used both types extensively and they both make good coffee, but I prefer my steel one for the ease of use.
Just buy whatever the cheapest one you can find that you like the look of; they're all chinese and rip eachother off.
Don't buy a kingrinder to spite that stupid shill that always posts here.
If you're spending over $100usd on a hand grinder for coffee you should probably seriously consider euthanasia.

[Anonymous No.19928982]

I think my sis wants to get me an aeropress for Christmas and I'm not sure how to stop her

[Anonymous No.19928999]

>>19928931
If you're buying a grinder based solely off looks you're probably retarded.

[Anonymous No.19929085]

>>19928982
buy an aeropress first and constantly talk about shit it is and then sell your aeropress

[Anonymous No.19929366]

>>19928048
hario grinders and ceramic burr grinders at large

[Anonymous No.19929372]

>>19928655
Maybe it's Green Coffee

[Anonymous No.19929374]

Anyone dealt with someone who has an existential crisis over seeing coffee brands on Amazon?

[Anonymous No.19929593]

>>19928982
Offhandedly mention how much you hate plastic, especially when plastic is in contact with hot liquids.

>>19929374
Uhh... no?

[Anonymous No.19929675]

DF83 was on sale for $500 last night, now it’s back to $580. I probably should have bought it
…

[Anonymous No.19929702]

>>19929593
Sadly my mother does, she kvetches at the thought of anything higher than store-bought price to the point that she'll actively try to send me alternatives of what she considers as the "better deal"

[Anonymous No.19929856]

it's pretty good

[Anonymous No.19929899]

>>19929856
no it isnt

[Anonymous No.19929907]

>>19929899
ok liberal

[Anonymous No.19929910]

>>19927091
>Get the wuri grade 0 while he still has some

This looks perfect! Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.19929926]

>>19929907
black rifle coffee is owned by liberals larping as conservatives
you do know this dont you?

[Anonymous No.19929932]

>>19929856
>cheap burned to shit grocery store coffee
>entirely marketed by grifters
>owners are libs
Yeah nah

[Anonymous No.19929942]

>>19928999
Coffee hobyyists usually only care about looks and lifestyle crap, style over substance

[Anonymous No.19929952]

>>19929907
The CEO of BLACKED retard cock cumpany publicly denounced Kyle Rittenhouse before he was proven innocent kek

[Anonymous No.19929957]

>>19928931
im not even in the market for one and >19927460 thinks someone asking a question is fucking with him
seek help

[Anonymous No.19929977]

Picopresso, what’s the verdict? I think it’s neat and I like camping so I’m thinking about picking one up for shits and giggles

[Anonymous No.19929978]

how are people still taking the bait

[Anonymous No.19929983]

>>19929977
If you're willing to go through espresso prep on a camping trip, sure go for it.

[Anonymous No.19929988]

[Anonymous No.19930567]

so which community is worse
coffee or hifi?

[Anonymous No.19930597]

>>19930567
whats the difference?
but its hifi and its not even close

[Anonymous No.19930596]

>>19930567
I'm biased but I'd say hifi is worse. With coffee people acknowledge that a lot of shit is up to preference, and technique plays a part too. Hifi is just pure gearfagging, whereas with coffee that's just a component.

[Anonymous No.19930607]

>>19930596
for me the difference is i dont see a parallel for cableschizo shit for coffee.
or putting crystals on capacitors
you can argue powerautism is comparable to coffee water autism

[Anonymous No.19930925]

>>19930567
Coffee actually does get significantly better depending on your equipment, not the case with audio.

[Anonymous No.19931189]

>>19930925
>coping this hard
I'm sure the audiophile fags think the same lmao
It's always diminishing returns like in anything else

[Anonymous No.19931209]

>>19929977
I have one that I sometimes take when I travel for work. Bottom line up front, it works - if you've got a decent hand grinder and you can manage water temperature, you can absolutely make espresso with it and it's not bad. It's going to take a lot longer between shots than a home machine, and getting all the components and the internals dry can be a little bit of fucking around, if you're going to be packing it and forgetting about it. I probably travel with an Aeropress about twice as often as I'll travel with the Pico because if I have an early start it's less fuck around to get decent coffee into me fast, but there's something mildly hilarious about turning out decentish espresso around a campfire or in a hotel room

[Anonymous No.19931616]

Good Burundi roasters?

[Anonymous No.19931850]

>>19930567
As a member of both, specifically >>>/g/iemg, the 'tism is greater in audio
Frequency response charts, target curves, EQ, diffuse field with bass boost and tilt, etc.
Audio transparency is a solved problem though in both DACs and amps
>but what about headphones
Another level of autism that's still feels over science for a lot of headphone users

[Anonymous No.19932301]

is it worth the extra ~30 bucks to get an izpresso over the k6? im looking at the x pro s and the j series, speifically
thank you for all your help /ctg/

[Anonymous No.19932306]

sup coffee nerds. anything wrong with steeping coffee in hot water before pouring it through a pour over thing with a filter? how long should I steep?

[Anonymous No.19932312]

>>19932306
i dont know know why youd wanna do that
you probably shouldnt

[Anonymous No.19932326]

>>19932312
why not. its essentially what happens with a french press.

[Anonymous No.19932328]

>>19916427
Nicaragua never failed me, same with Costa Rica.
I usually avoid Mexican beans, it tastes like fucking coal.

[Anonymous No.19932334]

>>19929374
I really don't get the point in specialty coffee on amazon, there's a reason grocery stores don't carry any if they don't have a deal with the local roaster, they're gonna go stale asf. maybe if the specialty roaster is just using amazon as some kinda storefront and they still manage to send on the day of the roast, but it's my impression that this isn't what's going on

[Anonymous No.19932346]

>>19932306
Nothing wrong with that. That's basically the 'steep and release' method. I do that sometimes with my french press through filter paper held in a tea strainer because I don't have a gooseneck kettle and don't want to get one at the moment. Try dividing your water into three or four parts, steeping and releasing multiple times to mimic multiple pours in a traditional pour-over method.

[Anonymous No.19932356]

>>19930567
I am a part of both and I want to say coffee people are a lot more realistic with what's actually effective and what's just excess consoom. yes, a mechanical wdt isn't gonna make better coffee, but even the most reddit user knows it won't, they just like it. hifi people fully believe in shit like burn in and other intangibles that don't bear out in any data and will pay hand over fist to resolve imagined issues.
I also will say, coffee genuinely is a longer path, you can get 99% of the way there in hifi with a good medium grade setup, but you can keep getting better and better and discover new experiences for much longer with coffee so it's a more interesting hobby
>>19930607
coffee water actually makes a difference and it bears out in blind testing. whether it affects extraction is less clear.
I guess the most analogous components of cabletism is
>farming and competition
a lot of presentation is just new age bullshit, your bean isn't gonna be better if you put positive energies out into the air, your coaster isn't representing the ethiopean culture, fuck off. but even that I don't think they buy into, it's just showmanship.
>silly wdt tools.
probably some people actually buy into that
>dead shots in espress
people that fuss over this are very embarassing
I think coffee is lucky in the fact that most of the big voices are engineers or scientists(or work closely with them) and are obsessed with relatively solid but too small scale experiments. it's very reddit but it also regulates out all the myths over time. that's just online culture though, elderly normies get everything wrong

[Anonymous No.19932367]

>>19932326
not really but i guess it is a technique you can use

[Anonymous No.19932422]

>>19932356
>coffee water actually makes a difference
thats what i said you fucking brain dead illiterate retard

[Anonymous No.19932434]

>local roastery has new beans
fuck yea i have nothing to live for

[Anonymous No.19932442]

>Cup of black Folger's instant coffee is better than what I made in a Moka pot
Got my percolator in the mail today and I assume that will be better as well

[Anonymous No.19932476]

>>19932442
if you think that's good, wait until you use a method that isn't shit, it'll blow your mind. why the fuck would you go in order of moka pot, instant, percolator? are you 90 years old? espresso, french press, aeropress, pour over. or learn to actually use your moka pot, you're probably cooking the shit out of it just like you will with a percolator, ruining your coffee

[Anonymous No.19932491]

>>19932476
Quite sure I used the moka pot correctly. I took my time learning it and used it numerous times. Bought a percolator because we have one at work and the coffee it makes tastes good.

[Anonymous No.19932533]

>>19932491
if percolator and instant are your favorites maybe you just have highly unorthodox tastes. have you ever suffered from a stroke or had cancer in your mouth or something?

[Anonymous No.19932543]

>>19932533
No. This shit reminds me of craft beer where people jerk each other off over IPAs which taste disgusting.

[Anonymous No.19932551]

>>19932543
it's not at all comparable. percolators are a borderline dead tech for a reason, you're being the hipster using something that went out of style 50-70 years ago because it uses un-sound principles to brew coffee. percolators boil the water after extraction, this burns the water, this produces a pretty much universally considered negative taste. instant coffee (aside from select specialty options) extracts about twice as much as other methods of brewing, this makes it woodier, more astringent and fibrous, it's horrifically overextracted and just tastes of less to save costs(most of what is extracted has no taste and is just filler, like cardboard), almost everyone including the people that use it consider it inferior. if you like boiled coffee and woody earthy coffee, that's fine, but don't act like the 99.9% of people that feel otherwise are the IPA micro brewery hipsters, you're the weird "look at me I'm so special" person in this scenario. why not just get a normal drip coffee machine? it'll be a thousand times better than a percolator

[Anonymous No.19932561]

>buy 2lbs version of this
>grind a cup at a time
>beat to shit grinder that I grind cooked rice and spices in
>put grounds in freezer
>heat up water to just below boiling
>eyeball it
>add 3-4 tbsp of grounds to french press
>faithful stainless steel french press of several years
>add water
>sit for 3-4 minutes
>do this twice a day
Best damn coffee I've ever had in my life.

[Anonymous No.19932568]

>>19930567
until someone comes up with a $5000 "espresso machine gold power cable" that magically makes the coffee better, hifi by a million miles.

[Anonymous No.19932570]

>>19932551
In my experience something like a percolator is normal and most people have never heard of any of the stuff you're referring to or even considered it, so I do think it's comparable.

[Anonymous No.19932576]

>>19932570
that's why I'm asking if you're really old. old people probably are around percolators fairly often, but they're by far phased out by drip machines. you're essentially using the penny farthing of coffee machines. percolators are not normal, I don't know what to tell you. I've recommended french press and drip coffee batch brewers, they have orders of magnitude bigger market share

[Anonymous No.19932579]

>>19932576
I'm in my mid-30s. I've never known anyone in real life who used a french press and when I got a moka pot I talked to some people about it and they didn't know what it was. The only coffee drinkers I know are just coffee drinkers and not "coffee as a hobby" coffee drinkers.

[Anonymous No.19932588]

>>19932579
why are you ignoring when I'm saying drip coffee? or espresso? combined they account for at least 90% of all coffee, percolators isn't even 1%.

[Anonymous No.19932600]

>>19932588
The only things I've ever used are a percolator (at work), instant, and a moka pot. I don't really know anything about drip coffee and using a machine like that is unappealing to me.

[Anonymous No.19932603]

>>19932600
what do you mean "machine like that". so because it's standalone? genuinely where do you live where you've tried percolator but never even encountered drip coffee. I feel like you're fucking with me

[Anonymous No.19932605]

>>19922598
i tried a jura once in an office and it was good

[Anonymous No.19932611]

>>19932603
I'm sure I've seen machines here and there but I've never used one. I only got into coffee a bit more recently. In the past I might have had instant at home occasionally or gone to a Starbucks or something.
>what do you mean "machine like that"
They look like a microwave but for coffee and I just find it unappealing on a personal level.

[Anonymous No.19932662]

https://weberworkshops.com/products/bean-cellar-glass is there a solution like this that doesn't have the piss-take weber price premium?

[Anonymous No.19932664]

>>19924813
>local roaster announces they don't do black friday

[Anonymous No.19932687]

>>19932662
Aliexpress

[Anonymous No.19932688]

>>19932662
yes
https://craiglyn.com/product/bean-vault-set/

[Anonymous No.19932856]

>>19932688
ah I'd like if it could create a vacuum when twisting. am I crazy for thinking 172 dollars for this is still too much?

[Anonymous No.19932885]

>>19932664
>local roaster ads saying 40% off only during 24h
>third day going with 40% off

[Anonymous No.19932946]

NEW

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[Anonymous No.19933268]

>>19930596
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>>19932568
thank you for your insight
as someone who has only seen a glimpse of both, thats what I was thinking as well