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This thread is for discussing teas, tisanes, and other herbal infusions.
info: types of tea, where to get tea, how to brew tea
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previous thread: >>19816602

>> No.19834060

I looked it up, Chinese exports are exempt from China's VAT
So maybe i didn't make my question clear
French guy buys tea from Germany, he pays 100€ + shipping. Of that 100€, 20€ is VAT on the purchase. If an American bought the same tea from the german shop he would pay 80€ + shipping, because he does not have to pay VAT.
French guy looks at buying tea from china, the cost will be 80€ + shipping and he will have to pay 20% VAT on the import
Frech guy is totally okay with the first purchase, sees no problem
Frech guy refuses to make the second purchase, says he does not want to pay 20% import tax.
Why is the frech guy like this?

>> No.19834065

>>19834004
>I tend to like young sheng a bit on the punchier side
Its not a soft like a yiwu or something, It just did not seem aggressively bitter to me.

>> No.19834070

>>19834060
Eurocucks don't understand VAT, while I'm taxed 5% sales on most shit in the US, nothing on the rest of the shit I order and don't pay VAT, and avoid tariffs because I'm not trying to import tiger skins to dress up my cabin.

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Cum chalice

>> No.19834073

bought my first gongfu (teapot with a valve) yesterday, I can now make infinite tieguanyin, damn steeping is retarded

>> No.19834083
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19834083

really digging this 2008 Xizi tuo. tastes like a wood cabin soaked with fine cigar smoke. astringency is in that pleasant "licked an oak barrel" range, it's well-aged and surprisingly easy to brew. some nice plums if brewed lighter. perfect tea for fall.

>> No.19834085

>>19834073
Those things are great for lazy brewing

>> No.19834086

>>19834073
based gongfu enjoyer. do you have any other gongfus on your mind. like the one with the lid or goungfu out of clay?

>> No.19834090

>>19834060
>If an American bought the same tea from the german shop he would pay 80€ + shipping, because he does not have to pay VAT.
Sadly a couple of the euro tea shops have started adding fake EU VAT to US purchases. I am guessing they just pocket the extra 20% or something. Not sure why they do it. Perhaps the VAT system is just a pain to work and taxing everyone is easier or perhaps they are just trying to hide how much of of the price is VAT for their EU customers.

>> No.19834091

>>19834083
Yeah at least as far as older productions go teas like that are where xiaguan really shines. Just pleasing smokey smoothish enjoyable teas. Some of their more recent productions are surprisingly modern and boutique style. But for me i will always love the smokey ones.

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>>19834065
yeah, I like balance. I also like some standout features though, I found the Jingmai Miyun samples I got from Farmerleaf recently quite boring, just too middle-of-the-road
>>19834071
cum pottery is my favorite

>> No.19834098

>>19834090
EU recently passed a law saying that online shops are not allowed to show the price without VAT untill you are on the checkout page. Presumably because they didn't like that people were constantly being reminded of it when they make online purchases. It's possible that some shops are just collecting VAT on everything now as well because it's easier or because they can.

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>>19834086
I think I am gonna stick with the all-in-one ones for now, may be a fancier one with a magnet valve actuator and glass upper chamber, those clay teapots are the shit though

>> No.19834122

>>19834112
You really can't beat clay.
>pour water in
>pour tea out
>clay sucks out some astringency and weirdness and adds whatever you had in there
>repeat 5-10 times
>being the first heavy industry guarantees a replacement, even if you have to get a bunch of niggers to build you a kiln under the threat of death
Not a bad way to do things. Just make sure your carbourettor is clear and you're good to go.

>> No.19834124

>>19834083
You the anon I asked to review it the other day? Thanks, it sounds good, I'll definitely get one for myself some time.
>>19834092
>Jingmai Miyun...boring
Agreed

>> No.19834129

>>19834060
>>19834090
Is VAT not charged on import? Like, a Chinese tea would be taxed at the EU border and then no matter where it goes next, the German VAT stays?

>> No.19834137

>>19834122
>make sure your carbourettor is clear
lol

>> No.19834138

>>19834129
*whatever EU country's VAT

>> No.19834144

>>19834137
I used to have a different drug habit. And expounded the benefits of simple glass. Not much has changed other than exchanging fire for water.

>> No.19834150

>>19834124
>You the anon I asked to review it the other day?
yep. haven't gotten around to the Rou Gui yet
>Jingmai Miyun...boring
I was a bit let down honestly, I thought since it was from Jingmai and William's own gardens it'd be more of a standout. but it was my least favorite of the samples I got. maybe aside from the huangpian which is just not my thing

>> No.19834161

>>19834129
No, vat is charged at retail
However unline the US where sales tax is added at the register (price of item is $100 at the register you pay $105 because of 5% sales tax) in Europe vat is added into the listed retail price (price of item is 100€ you pay 100€, the actual price of the item is 80€ + 20% VAT)

>> No.19834231

>>19834129
>Is VAT not charged on import?
The US does not have fancy import taxing system for small personal purchases like most of the EU does. We do typically have to pay sales tax when ordering online from another state (it used to not be enforced) and some sates may require you pay sales tax on foreign purchases. The feds generally don't charge import tax on personal imports unless they are really large. In over half the US tea would be state sales tax free anyways because many states exempt food from sales tax.

>> No.19834319

Realized i fucked the math because murrican education lets try one more time.
I looked it up, Chinese exports are exempt from China's VAT
So maybe i didn't make my question clear
French guy buys tea from Germany, he pays 120€ + shipping. Of that 120€, 20€ is VAT on the purchase. If an American bought the same tea from the german shop he would pay 100€ + shipping, because he does not have to pay European VAT (he might have to pay American import duties but that's unrelated to the hypothetical)
French guy looks at buying tea from china, the cost will be 100€ + shipping and he will have to pay 20% VAT on the import. It should also be mentioned that the tea from china is typically cheaper and higher quality in terms of €/g compared to buying Chinese tea from European shops.
Frech guy is totally okay with the first purchase, sees no problem
Frech guy refuses to make the second purchase, says he does not want to pay 20% import tax.
Why is the frech guy like this?

>> No.19834324

>>19834030
That's one ugly teapot. Looks like it's covered in mud/shit.

>> No.19834325

>>19834319
He's used to being boiled alive like the frog he is. Next question.

>> No.19834411

>>19834324
You don't like the wrinkled ballsack teapot?

>> No.19834426

>>19834411
Me, I prefer the pee pee spouts.

>> No.19834477

What teas have a good and heavy cha qi? I know this sounds like bullshit but I also know what it's like getting slammed from a pot of good shit.

>> No.19834494

>>19834477
Aged Raw puerhs.

>> No.19834553

>>19834477
Sorry i can't tell you teas to buy to get good qi, only that they exist and are out there. Not trying to be elitest or secretive i just cant think of any dramatic examples off the top of my head that are still available.
I guess there is this ripe from YoT that always made me want to take a nap after drinking it.
https://yeeonteaco.com/collections/puerh/products/2008-ripe-puerh-tea-brick-jinggu-factory
I guess you could try a sample of a tea like this that promises big qi, but i haven't had it to say for myself. I have read that these guys have made some other productions with impressive qi but haven't tried those either.
https://www.bitterleafteas.com/shop/tea/puer/prime-2023-mahei-raw-puer

>> No.19834562

>>19834060
the process of clearing customs to pay that tax gives them PTSD flashbacks

>> No.19834573

>>19834562
I honestly think that's part of it. Before the new import tax rules i guess some countries postal systems would stop packages completely arbitrarily, asses some stupid tax on them, and then charge 10€ for a tax assement fee. As a result many are terrified to order from overseas because they still think this could happen to them.

>> No.19834604

>>19834573
>and then charge 10€ for a tax assement fee.
Yeah, I think some countries and shipping services will charge large fees for calculating the taxes due and filling out customs paper work on top of the taxes themselves.

>> No.19834858
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19834858

I've being using this for almost two years now, but recently I noticed that compared to just a gaiwan it mutes almost all the flavor from the tea. Never cleaned it with anything but water right after brewing. Should I start using it for something much larger/more flavorful or is it going to ruin any type of tea I put into it now.

>> No.19834921

>>19834030
What is that thing with the red cord in the photo?

>> No.19834968

>>19834921
jade dragon tea pet

>> No.19835006

I like the smell of Dan congs, but they all taste like soap to me.

>> No.19835012

>>19834858
Is that nixing? Ive never used that kind of clay before.
Anyways experiment and see if you can find a tea it works for. Maybe ripe puer or some other stinky tea.

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Should i get this and use it as a tea knife?

>> No.19835037
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19835037

How about this?

>> No.19835077

>>19834060
I'm french and i buy tea only from china and taiwan, why? Because the shops i buy from are smart and they lower the value of the packages why you ask? I order 100e worth of tea on their website and get free shipping it's sent to me and arrive at the customs but written on the package you have the value of the goods in the said package Tea Tea tea 3e 2e 4e. Vat is not applied and is sent to my house thank you very much. If i go into a decent local shop they bought tea in china imported them with or without vat applied but selling goods on the territory and having a "shop" they have to apply the vat so you might have double taxes applied on it that's why you have absolute garbage teas sold like an expensive tea for non reason but only taxes and to be profitable. tldr BUY TEA FROM CHINA NOW!

>> No.19835086

>>19835033
The flat sharp wedge shape works better than round imo.

>> No.19835090

>>19835033
This one is better you can easily kill you lesbian puerh girlfriend with it if she touch your cakes without you

>> No.19835094
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>>19834030
What is this tea called

>> No.19835178

>>19835012
Yeah it's a nixing. I use it for roasted oolongs and it gets rid of all the roasted notes. It just seems to make the tea boring.

>> No.19835200

Should puerh X milk oolong is a nice combo

>> No.19835225

>>19834968
Thank you. I'd never heard of tea pets before. I like that one.

>> No.19835359

>>19835178
I though nixing clay was supposed to be neutral? Is that not true? I was considering getting a nixing pot because of that.

>> No.19835414

>>19834030
why does that fucking teapot look like a demon's nutsack? Yeet that nasty thing.

>> No.19835502

After about 3 months of drinking pu-erh, the best way is 5-8 grams in 150ml water and steeps for 7 minutes.

>> No.19835509

>>19835502
Keep us updated when you reach 3 years and 30 years then laugh at yourself.

>> No.19835637

>>19835359
I'll give it a try with some of my puerhs tomorrow to see if it's just the oolongs that lose their character. Don't have any ripes though so if that's your angle you would have to do a test yourself.

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>>19835359
Different anon here.
My chaozhou teapot is amongst porcelain teapots on how neutral it is to teas. So far I've brewed shous/shengs/greens/blacks/whites/all types of oolongs with it and no flavor has been muted significantly. If I were to give a percentage to the muteness against a porcelain, it would be around 1-2% more muted. But nowhere near being flavorless.

I have some Nixing clay tea cups and those straight up steal the flavor out of whatever tea you put in.

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>>19835037
this kind is better in my opinion but the pick is too thick, get one with a smaller pick or else youre going to break the leafs and get a lot of dust.i find the one i use in hardware stores like home depot.

>> No.19835858

>>19835776
are u the same guy from LA who has some lao ban zhang?

>> No.19835940

Just got my first tuo. Which side do you guys start breaking them apart? It feels like starting from the top is most stable, but I don't want to mess with the shape too much. And if I go from the bottom, do I go vertically or horizontally? it seems the leaves go both ways.

>> No.19835950

>>19835940
I always start from the bottom vertically, trying to split the "walls" of the tuo in half. sort of like you would start at a bing's edge

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>>19835033
>>19835037
I'm a /k/ommando and always thought tea picks/tea knives would work as a good plausible deniability disposable weapon for self defense. They're all basically inexpensive shivs or stilettos. I remember seeing a "tea knife' that was literally just a punch dagger. Carry a travel gaiwan and a small tea cake with you and you can say your tea knife is solely meant for tea if a cop searches you.

>> No.19836017

having some 2018 "Zi Qi Gushu" sample KTM sent me. nice of them to give me a sample of something pricier this time. supposed to be a blend of Yiwu and Banzhang (Banpen) material
brews up an orange liquor. smell of apricots, minerals and something vegetal-smoky, like grilled peppers.
flavor is pretty average, balanced between apricots, wood and savory vegetal tones, I guess the pepper is the most interesting part. medium body, medium bitterness, drying tannic astringency, bit of a cooling feeling in the throat but not much returning sweetness. decent energy
nothing special overall. I think I tend to find several year old sheng boring in general. I'd rather have either some nicely aromatic or punchy if cheaper 2023 production or some properly semi-aged cheap factory stuff

>> No.19836081

>>19835950
That seems like the best option to me too. I just hope my clumsy ass doesn't make the tuo roll or fly off the table. Going to see if I can keep it in place with a bunched up towel or something.

>> No.19836090

>>19836081
despite all the horror stories about unbreakable tuos, I have yet to find one I truly struggle with. I think some people in the online puerh lesbian community just expect everything to be a modern super loosely pressed cake that you can pull apart with your bare hands. once you get through one or two tuos, you should know how to handle them

>> No.19836108

Xiaguan makes some funny ads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V2LHtdECgw

>> No.19836144

>>19836108
I've never watched a pu-erh TV commercial before. feels a bit surreal. I liked the hammer one
it's interesting that most of them are going hard on that rural, traditional every day tea feel with all the dingy tea places filled with grandpas playing cards and whatnot. quite soulful

>> No.19836245

>>19836108
I really miss chillin on the balcony.

>> No.19836253

>>19836144
Yeah, the hammer one made me laugh.
>most of them are going hard on that rural, traditional every day tea feel with all the dingy tea places filled with grandpas playing cards and whatnot
Can't really explain, but i feel that type of atmosphere fits tea drinking much better than the modern and stressful city life. I can always put some some tea in a thermos and drink it at work, but it doesn't feel right compared to my home.
I remember reading something written by a traveller to China. There was a group of older people just sitting on the sidewalk around a gong fu tea set and this guy found it surreal. There were cars and people making noise, but they were just chilling in their own bubble of serenity.

>> No.19836272

>>19836253
it also makes sense for a Xiaguan tuo commercial, because some of their aged tuos really do have that wood and smoke vibe that's a bit like being in a dingy rural tea place

>> No.19836300

>>19834060
Because he has no way of avoiding paying VAT on locally bought goods, while he sees paying taxes on something that he already paid for as a loss.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchoring_effect
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prospect_theory
>>19834129
Since mid 2022 it's supposedly only charged when purchasing, though that requires foreign businesses to have a European tax code or however you call it, to pay taxes to the EU directly, and that's costly to get, so it's not worthwhile for small businesses, who instead sell goods (or at least have the ability to sell goods) with zero rate VAT applied and let the customer sort customs clearing out.
>>19835077
>my (declaredly) cheap imported goods are tax exempt
Vive le lazy customs officers, but there's formally no VAT allowance for goods imported in the EU anymore, so you just got lucky.
Some EU countries like Sweden also used to apply a fixed "customs clearing fee" of around €12 on any and all imported goods, regardless of their declared value, so that's another thing that might be different from France to keep in mind.
>a shop might have paid chinese VAT on imported tea that the French customer will have to pay EU VAT on
Most definitely not.

>> No.19836315

I'm not really buying locally in the EU much anymore, just because I can actually dodge VAT while buying from abroad

>> No.19836348

>>19836144
tea is a lot more of a social thing in China, it's what you offers to guests instead of coffee or sweets, what you give as a gift instead of expensive whisky, it's what you drink to celebrate during festivities, and everybody drink it one way or other, so it makes sense that that's the image of your tea you'd want to show the chinese public

>> No.19836356

where could i look to find a nice ceramic teapot? i've been going through ali express but none of it's quite doing it for me.

>> No.19836404
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>>19836356
glazed? unglazed? what size, what pricepoint, waht style? the teapot world is vast
I thought the little Ru Yao teapots at Yunnansourcing are cute if you want something glazed, inexpensive and really small

>> No.19836432

>>19836404
i can narrow it down to glazed and maybe 200ml, the idea being it'll make about 3 of my 60ml cups worth and fit in my gong dao bei. price is flexible but not huge.
thanks for the suggestion i'll take a look through YS.

>> No.19836438

>>19836108
These are good, I liked the hong kong one and the guy on the balcony with one of the CCP mugs.

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>>19836432
if you want a bit of a bigger teapot, you could look at some Japanese stuff, I think there might be a bigger selection of glazed teapots in the 200-400ml range. this one is from Artistic Nippon
Taiwan Tea Crafts also has a decent choice of teapots in that 200ml type range

>> No.19836564

>>19835940
I place the tuo down pointed up then find a loose side to pick downwards from just slightly off center. Then I rotate the tuo and start picking at an angle, though still downwards, from the sides left from the first nug. Sometimes pieces of the bottom exist as ring segments attached to what remains of the standing tuo body. Those can easily be pried by stabbing downward and using leverage. The strongly compressed top I try to flake from the sides like a tiny cake. Anything else is broken down however, usually with just my fingers, into the sized nugs I want.
Not difficult nor prescriptive, just break down a lot of tuos and develop a process.

>> No.19836586

>>19835359
nixing is supposed to mute similarly to zini clay

>> No.19836591

>>19834477
The only few times I experienced it were with ripe puers. One time it was from a pu I tried with Chinese friends, they got it as a gift from someone and it was loose, no label or anything on the bag.
Other time was from a cake I've had for a year now (not a fan of shu pu) that I've tried before and after that time, but only that time I was slammed by the qi. It's not dramatic, to me it feels like when you're hiking in cold weather all day then you come into a warm place and eat something and feel a bit sleepy and groggy. Great feeling though, been trying to experience it again but no luck.

>> No.19836596

>>19835033
Why not? I use a letter opener

>> No.19836601

>>19835858
Not from LA but yeah, I have the Laobanzhang

>> No.19836688

>>19835094
Its hard to say, google translate doesn't want to pick up the characters. If i had to guess its a generic gift package that says something like "heath and good wishes" on the front. If you post a picture of the tea leaves it will be easier to say what it is.

>> No.19836692

>>19835502
My stomach hurts just thinking about this.
Switch to grampa style. 6.5g in a 12oz mug, refill with boiling water when you drink halfway down you will love it

>> No.19836716

>>19836090
I had one tuo that i actually had to take a hammer to. I can't remember where it was from but it was a 100g and it was maybe 3/4 the size of a typical factory 100g tuo basically an iron cake in tuo form. Other then that they really aren't hard to deal with and you gotta go out of your way to find one that's actually hard to deal with

>> No.19836718

>>19836688
Reading handwritten chinese is a PITA. I'm pretty sure the last two characters are 紅茶 and second one might be 専 but i can't figure out what the first one is.

>> No.19836802

what do you guys do with teas that you should really finish ASAP but just aren't in the mood for?
I got really bored with lightly oxidized oolongs but I still have quite a bit of them to finish off

>> No.19836820

>>19836802
Cold brew,
Seal up well and forget about for a year and then lightly roast them just before brewing them
Make kombucha

>> No.19836822

>>19836802
Milk + sugar

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16€ for 10 gramm, is this good?

>> No.19836884

>>19836871
Jesus, 16 euros for 10g is a fucking lot, especially for a shu puer. I know Ban Zhang teas are expensive, but that seems extreme.

>> No.19836908

>>19836871
Im not really a fan of these tea shops that buy factory puer productions and then sell them without telling you who the factory is. Also like the other guy said that's real expensive for shu.
If you wanna buy some fancy shu pick 100g of this up https://tea-expert.net/mengku/00135-mengku-bojun-2020
Get 100g of this too while you are at it
https://tea-expert.net/mengku/10098-benwei-dacheng-1kg-2020

>> No.19836910

>>19836908
Shipping should be $5 (it might be free if you get both) he will value the package at like 5€

>> No.19836928

>>19836871
Alright, i looked a little bit more. It says Lancang Ancient Tea company and the prices look legit.
https://www.lcgchk.com/en/products/2017s-ban-zhang-ancient-tree-puer-tea-ripe-tea
But still way more than what i would pay for a shu.

>> No.19836950

>>19836928
Thanks for finding that. I totally missed that they listed the manufacturer

>> No.19837045

>>19836928
Op here, thanks>>19836950

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Bros i found it. An all glass brewpot thingy
https://batchtea.co.uk/product/samadoyo-glass-gong-fu-teapot-700ml/
https://batchtea.co.uk/product/samadoyo-glass-gong-fu-teapot-with-maple-lid/
They exist

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>>19837064
Its time...

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>>19836908
>Im not really a fan of these tea shops that buy factory puer productions and then sell them without telling you who the factory is.
That is a major pet peeve of mine as well. Unless the tea vendor is already very reputable I expect some info on the factory or farmer for a tea this expensive. I want some idea why or how they bought it so I can evaluate it myself even if it the explanation is merely that their wholesaler said "trust me bro". Otherwise for all I know they they got ripped off buying random fake tea on taobao and are passing it on to you. This is not like in China where many tea shops will serve you samples for free before you buy and therefore you can at least decide whether or not their mystery tea is worth the price to you. Popular that provide minimal info like W2T had to earn their reputation.

>>19836950
>I totally missed that they listed the manufacturer
They didn't really, but they at least included a picture of the wrapper.

>Lancang Ancient Tea company
Any idea what exactly their logo is supposed to be? Is it a mythological figure? It kinda reminds me of the kid from were the wild things are.

>> No.19837094

>>19837084
Yeah especially when i see something like expensive banzang ripe, that sets off all kinds of alarm bells that it could be some $5 mystery cake that's totally laobanzang bro.

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>>19837084
>their logo
I tried to do some research, but it's hard. On their website they have this pic, which shows a poem by Payan Leng, apparently of the tea ancestors, but nothing about the logo.
Looking at it makes me think it might Sun Wukong, or the god Hanuman, again, not very sure.

>> No.19837249

when does Farmerleaf usually release their autumn raws?

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>>19835637
>>19835178
Just tried it with some of my weirder puerh and it did get rid of the astringency, but also some of the subtle flavors making it, in my opinion, more boring. Will probably use it for some younger puerhs and maybe ripes if I decide to try them again.

>> No.19837294

>>19837287
How long have you seasoned it for? I'd leave a pot in there all day and scrub it out so it doesn't form mold to speed it along.

>> No.19837310

Gunpowder tea?

>> No.19837329

>>19837310
definitely the king of super cheap green tea

>> No.19837331

>>19837310
I use Temple of Heaven gunpowder for absorbing plastic odors from coolers for tea storage. Can't stand drinking the stuff, though.

>> No.19837344

>>19837294
I've used it maybe once a week for about two years now. It's usually all in one sitting so the leaves don't sit all day, maybe an hour or two at most. After I'm done I pour boiling water in and wipe the inside down with a cloth or paper towel after dumping so it doesn't stay wet. I heard that detergents are bad for clay or should I start using them.

>> No.19837350

>>19837064
Thanks for sharing. I have been looking for one of those. Now I just have to decide whether it is worth paying shipping from the UK.

>> No.19837367

>>19837331
nice that's a good idea.

>> No.19837462

>>19837350
Its made by a chinese company, im sure you can find someone else selling that model somewhere else. I just wanted to post it before i forgot about it

>> No.19837472

>>19837344
Yeah that pot sounds like it's heavily muting. Other clays just cut the edge and destroy green and some white tea. I asked if you had seasoned it because it usually doesn't mute so heavily after maybe 10 sessions, but yours is Shiva, absorber of flavors. Might be nice for some extremely funky cheap shit.

>> No.19837532

>>19837249
usually around black friday, other vendors also release their autumn raws at this time

>> No.19837646

What is the last sheng you had, anons? Yesterday, I finally decided to just go hammer-and-chisel on an extremely tight tuo I've been holding on to for a while. It's this one from Myanmar: https://www.chawangshop.com/pu-erh-tea/raw-sheng-puerh/2006-myanmar-kokang-mei-hua-bing-raw-puerh-tea-100g.html
I think the price went up a fair bit since I got it before, but oh well. I think I will drink it soon while I read tonight.

>> No.19837648

>>19837646
>I think the price went up a fair bit since I got it before, but oh well.
Yup, those were $8 a piece.
Good stuff

>> No.19837673

The cold weather is back, so it's time again for me to consume insane amounts of tea. What are some good whites to pick up? I haven't ordered from fullchea in a while because I'm still trying to get through what I already have.

>> No.19837684

>>19837367
It's effective, but usually the last step after a good soapy wash, baking soda slurry, sitting out in the sun, and plenty of airing out in between.

>> No.19837690

>>19837646
>What is the last sheng you had?
Some random cheap Liming Tea Factory fangcha. It opens up surprisingly well for its compression level.
>>19837648
Glad I snagged a tong when they were still $8/piece. The tea is pretty good but it is a pain to split up.

>> No.19837847
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19837847

>>19837064
Does your teapot have a biomimetic eagle beak? I bet not. picrel is from SamaDoyo's aliexpress store.

>> No.19837873

>>19837673
Are you still planning on ordering from Fullchea? I have this one, and it's nice: https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2019-zhong-cha-white-tea-5929-white-beauty-tea-357g-p0685.html
I haven't had it in a while, but I portioned off some yesterday. I was going to make sheng, but I can infuse some to tell you what it's like if you're interested. If you want a nice bang-for-buck option, this budget cake is also pretty decent:
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2018-moonlight-white-beauty-whiet-chinese-tea-ancient-arbors-of-jingmai-mountain-white-raw-pu-erh-tea-357g-p0751.html
I just finished this cake off this month, and it was quite pleasant for the price. If you're open to other storefronts, Chawangshop has some killer whites too.
>>19837690
>random cheap Liming Tea Factory fangcha
What was it like? I haven't heard of LTF before.
>Compression
I hear you, that Myanmar tuo was dense as hell. It felt a bit awkward to use a hammer and pick on tea (think of the breakage), but now I can finally drink it all.

>> No.19837944

>>19837472
Yeah, all the ripes were always too fishy for me. Tried five or so samples and didn't like any of them. Maybe this teapot will soften them enough for me to enjoy.

>> No.19837954

>>19837944
The pot is older than the current standards for tea. It will tame them and make them fun, at the very least.

>> No.19837959

>>19837944
I was going to buy it from you for cheap just for that but since you mentioned it, I'll hold off.

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>>19837873
>What was it like?
The fangcha has a slightly lighter less bitter, less smokey edge to it than an XG tuo but still has that big factory plantation sheng vibe to it. Pretty drinkable for only being semiaged with dry storage.
>I haven't heard of LTF before.
Liming tea factory also known as BaJiaoTing (Octagonal Pavilion) is one of the old state owned puerh factories (factory code number 0). I think they may still be state owned actually. They are not as prestigious as Dayi or XG and I don't think they are as prominent as they once were but you can still find a lot of semiaged teas from them. They seem to make decent quality big factory style puerh.

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Alright here it is the gongfu teapot thing with a glass inner vessel from aliexpress. It's definitely more expensive then the versions with the plastic inner basket. Im not necessarily endorsing this, i don't own it, but i know some posters were interested.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256805737883455.html?
>>19837847
>biomimetic eagle beak
Based, thanks for pointing out they are on ali.

>> No.19838002

>>19837989
YS just added some as well
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/new-products/products/bonston-bp-13-automatic-tea-brewer
https://yunnansourcing.com/products/bonston-bp-12-automatic-tea-brewer

>> No.19838303

>>19834071
Seems like it would have a nice texture to hold. No homo.
>>19834083
I'm happy to hear you like the happy tuo. Although given your description I think I know exactly what it tastes like, I'll pick one up next KTM order. Probably next Spring.
>>19835964
Seems like a needless gamble.
>>19836108
These are pretty good! I liked the one in the parlor where old men unapologetically smoke, gamble, and drink tea. Must be nice. I wish I had a place to do that in my rural neck of the woods. Beer only, though.

>> No.19838405

>>19836108
Dayi had a funny ad on their website that took place during WW2 implied puerh helped a Chinese solder heal his sick daughter and fight Japanese soldiers. I kind of want to find it again.

>> No.19838413

I got a new teapot and after some experimenting with it, I've come to discover that when the lid is oriented a certain way, tea leaks out from the top and dribbles down the body rather crassly as I pour. Shucks. I wouldn't mind if it weren't obvious when it wasn't on said particular way.

>> No.19838432

>>19838413
Are you holding the lid to support the pour as you do, or is this something that just happens regardless? At least if you know the orientations that work properly, you can just adjust visually each time. Call it part of the ritual.

>> No.19838436

>>19838432
It happens regardless of how I hold it. I essentially have two orientations for the lid. One dribbles, the other doesn't. It's a little annoying only because the orientation of lid that is the most "correct" is the one that dribbles.
It's petty, but the whole hobby is one of nuance. I certainly won't lose sleep over it, but I had to post about it in the hobby thread anyway.

>> No.19838449

Do you know mei leaf? Thoy youtube guy named don mei leaf. My last order of green and oolong was pretty bad, all teas were weak and bad

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19838462

>>19838405
Dang it, Dayi's site seems to not let me view the Chinese version anymore. I did find this at least.
https://www.dayitea.com/en/dang-jian

>> No.19838502

>>19838449
Plenty of people know him. He can be somewhat entertaining for newcomer stuff, but I'd say many agree he heavily exaggerates the scope of his impressions. That said, I don't know how many people here actually have tried his products (I haven't), and frankly, his cost/gram values just don't seem great. If you wanted to buy from someone on YT, Farmer Leaf is much more reputed around here. I also like Nannuoshan's videos, though I haven't heard of anyone here buying his stuff.

>> No.19838508

>>19838413
Does it leak when tea is in it? I have a teapot where the lid leaks like crazy with just water in it but it seems fine when im brewing tea

>> No.19838532

>>19838508
No difference whether leaves are in it or not. It's interesting that would even make a difference.

>> No.19838577

>>19838462
I wish I didn't see this.

>> No.19838606

>>19835094
It says Minato (port) something black tea

>> No.19838635

>>19838606
Gang??? Hongcha

>> No.19838670

>>19838462
lol, the san he (three cranes) web page has all these hilarious press releases
>Zong Yi, deputy director of the Supervisory Board of the All-China Supply and Marketing Cooperation Directorate, inspected the Three Cranes and Six Fort Tea Exhibition Hall
http://www.wz-tea.com/news/758.html
>Guangdong Provincial Committee Standing Committee Ye Zhenqin, Vice Chairman of Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region Government Fang Chunming and other leaders inspected the Sanhe Six Fort Tea Exhibition Hall
http://www.wz-tea.com/news/752.html
>Singing a mountain song to the party: Guangxi Huangzhou Tea Factory Co., Ltd. Red Song “ Flash ” Dedication Party for 100 years
http://www.wz-tea.com/news/730.html

>> No.19838710

>>19838405
she must have been a lesbian daughter

>> No.19839304

>>19837646
drinking dat Fa Zhan He right now, might have a Xiaguan Jia Ji later. would be a fun contrast between those two... new school, clean single origin sheng vs old school rough smoky blend

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New cup to finish my spring sun dried black from farmer leaf it's tiny and nice i love it.

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I hope we see new black batch for autumn too.

>> No.19839396

>>19839378
I'm mostly hoping for more of that autumn Lao Man E. I kind of regret not getting a cake last year

>> No.19839399

>>19839396
No reason not to have at least a cake this autumn from lao man e it's one of the favorite of william for this price range i'm sure you'll be able to have one. It's a bit too bitter for me the way i usually brew raw puerh so i have to tweak a bit but the strengh of it is the mouth feel that i really like.

>> No.19839404

>>19839396
is autumn better? i tried the spring small trees lao man e and enjoyed it a lot but it's the only lao man e i've had.

>> No.19839408

>>19839404
It's a bit different not better or worse all depends on your taste. I wish i had the lao man e big trees or gushu to try and compare to small treesor acient from 2021 that i tried but they all different alreary so a season to another and the type of trees you have a lot to choose from and like.

>> No.19839418

>>19839399
I've been craving a punchy, interesting young raw, but I'm also a cheapskate. I don't mind bitterness as long as it's balanced with some nice sweetness. I had a sample of some super bitter chen sheng hao cake, but it was very tasty when I just used a lot less leaf and did flash brews. had a nice upfront candy / sweet pea type flavor and then a slug of bitterness, a fun contrast. anything else you can say about the autumn lao man e cake?
>>19839404
autumn is half the price, last year it was like 50$. usually autumn is milder, which might actually not be a bad thing for such a punchy terroir. seemed to get a lot of praise and it sold out fairly quickly too for a not particularly limited shengtai cake

>> No.19839460

>>19839418
I would have recommend the nuo gu wan for you but there's none left... you can brew it strong for the punch but it fades quickly after it's what you are looking fore. The lao man e stays a little longer and lingers in the mouth but it's pleasant if you like that kind of teas.

>> No.19839483

>>19838303
I'm not a Xiaguan afficionado, but for what it's worth I think the happy tuo is quite a bit better than the 2005 jia ji I also got. that one doesn't have that cigar humidor magic.

>> No.19839492

>>19839460
I guess I'll wait and see if they offer the lao man e again and what the price and description will be
I could also get the Green Hype cake from White2Tea I guess, if they do a free shipping promo again. supposedly on the punchier side as well?

>> No.19839496

>>19839492
Haven't tried white2tea. Lao man e is almost certain to be out in autumn but don't know about the price though.

>> No.19839521

>>19839496
>Haven't tried white2tea
I also haven't and I feel like I should give them a chance. I don't like their marketing, but a modern boutique vendor focused on blends sounds interesting enough to try. The woody ripes also sound interesting and aren't too pricey.
I guess Chen Sheng Hao is also focused on punchy blends, but mostly out of my price range. Also, I can't find any good reviews on most of their teas.

>> No.19839551

>>19839521
Teadb tried a lot of the white2tea i think maybe not the latest but some.

>> No.19839573

>>19839551
yeah with white2tea it's a bit easier to find reviews. I do like TeaDB, though they don't really do much young sheng anymore
with the review situation I was talking about CSH. might just get the 200 gram sample set at some point, maybe if they do a sale or something

>> No.19839605

>>19839521
>Chen Sheng Hao
i had some of their 2013 naka this morning, only CSH i've tried but quite smooth

>> No.19839736

>>19839605
by the way, I've just noticed that Chen Sheng Hao's Naka brick is pretty much the same price as white2tea's Dangerfield, which they describe as a blend that's supposed to be "a poor man's Naka" or Naka-like blend of some kind
I wonder which would win in a blind tasting, could be a fun experiment. any Naka fans want to go for it?

>> No.19840051

>>19836908
>>19837084
Pu noob over here, what's the deal with factories and how do I find out which ones are good? I'm mostly into oolongs and Taiwan tea and only tried Puer a few times so far. How do I achieve the level of autism those people casually dropping the recipe numbers have?

>>19837472
I have a Yixing Zisha pot bought from a reputable source 3 years ago and used at least 3 times a week since that that's still very muting. Only use it for very astringent and roasted oolongs when I want their true flavor to shine.

>> No.19840101

>>19840051
>How do I achieve the level of autism those people casually dropping the recipe numbers have
drink more tea. it just comes with experience
the term "factory" is often used for the bigger, often more established producers, especially the ones that were active back when everything was state-run. most famous ones are probably CNNP, Menghai Tea Factory and Xiaguan. these old school factories used the recipe numbers back when "marketing" was considered a harmful capitalist idea. some of these recipes became famous benchmarks and are still popular today.
in this often used meaning of "factory" they are contrasted with smaller "boutique" producers. but factory can also refer to any pu-erh production operation
any of the bigger producers are likely to have both great tea and shit tea at often a wide range of pricepoints, so you'll have to dig around a bit. Menghai TF is usually considered the most consistently good of the big old school factories (especially for ripe), but the prices can also reflect this and get pretty stupid for the really old or hyped teas

>> No.19840135

>>19840051
>Pu noob over here, what's the deal with factories and how do I find out which ones are good?
A good shortlist is all the factories with their own category on king tea malls website. It's by no means a complete list of good factories but it covers some of the most popular ones

>> No.19840275

>>19840051
>Pu noob over here, what's the deal with factories
Unlike a lot of other teas puerh is typically sold branded. Historically almost all puerh was processed by a handful of very large (state owned at the time) factories. Sometimes the tea is grown by the factory and other time they buy it from independent farmers. These days the big factories are still in operation but there are also many small workshops to mid size factories as well as boutique produces that specialize in higher end tea. For their store brands most of the western puerh vendors (like yunnan sourcing or white2tea) source tea from farmers or at wholesale markets and then commission small or mid size factories to make cakes to their specifications for them. Farmerleaf actually fully makes some of their own teas.

>how do I find out which ones are good?
Lurking, online window shopping. You will build up an understanding of who's who over time. If a bunch of trusted tea shops sell their tea its probably at least a respectable brand. Most of the common big brands at least have an acceptable quality floor, you have to be a bit more careful of cheap mystery brands which are more often subpar.

>> No.19840278

>>19840275
>>19840051
Top brands to know as a beginner:
>Dayi AKA Taetea AKA Menghai Tea Factory (be careful there are other Menghai tea factories, it is a place)
The most popular puerh brand and generally of consistently good quality. Best known for their 7542 and 7572 raw and ripe blends. Often considered the standard to compare against. Many of their teas are speculated on like collectibles and can sometimes be overpriced because of this.
>Xiaguan
Best known for making known for their strong sometimes smokey sheng tuochas and iron cakes as well of their "Xiaofa" ripe tochas. Their teas are are often quite affordable. They historically have exported a lot of tea to Tibet and Mongolia.
>Haiwan AKA Lao Tong Zhi
Best known for making a lot of good cheap shou. Founder is ex dayi shou expert.
>Mengku Rongshi or Shuangjiang Mengku (again note their are other factories in Mengku)
Best known for primarily selling higher end sheng productions.
>CNNP AKA Zhong Cha (lit. "China tea") AKA Kunming tea factory (yet again Kunming is a place)
CNNP was the trade name for all the big factories when they were all still state owned. Today it is used by Kunming tea factory. Makes pretty standard big factory fare these days.

>How do I achieve the level of autism those people casually dropping the recipe numbers have?
Again lurking, online window shopping. Honestly there are mostly only a few really common recipe numbers. Currrently most factories use names for their product lines.

>> No.19840289

>>19840101
>old school factories used the recipe numbers back when "marketing" was considered a harmful capitalist idea.
That feels like a stretch to me. I don't think it was anti-marketing so much as Puerh was seen as an industrial commodity and therefore simple codes made sense. In peak communist China you would not have had much if any choice of brands anyways. Back at that time a lot of of puerh was sold to shops then broken up so the wrapper marketing aspect was likely not considered as important (because most customers were not buying whole cakes).

>> No.19840298

>>19840289
didn't make it clear, but it was supposed to be a sarcastic sort of jab or overexageration on the subject of how different things were back then

>> No.19840306

Yeah i think the factory codes were basically treating tea as an agricultural commodity. Recipe year, leaf grade, fatory number. Im also pretty sure they didn't even put the recipie numbers on the cakes untill the late 90s, before then it would be on a slip of paper in the box of tongs or maybe printed on the oustide of the box somewhere. It was never really intended as information for consumers.

>> No.19840315

Got a giant bag of lemon verbena. It smells great

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>>19840315

>> No.19840333

damn the Jingmai Yellow Flakes sample from farmerleaf really isn't to my taste. first huangpian cake I try and I gotta say, huangpian will be low on my "to try" list from now on. maybe an aged one at some distant point in the future

>> No.19840344

>>19840333
I still refuse to buy huangpian
Some other anon got the farmer leaf yellow flakes cake and liked it, but i didn't sample.

>> No.19840345

>>19840306
>before then it would be on a slip of paper in the box of tongs or maybe printed on the oustide of the box somewhere.
Identifying classic era puerh can be crazy complicated because they included so little information and much of it has been lost or forgotten since then. Hardcore collectors look at things like like what exact fonts were used and what the wrappers paper stock feels like to guess the age and batch. The packaging was not made with collectors in mind.

>> No.19840364

>>19840315
Cool, I have a small tree in the garden but never really considered making tea with it

>> No.19840376

>>19840344
I understand where you're coming from. I heard very positive opinions about this cake, that it's the best young huangpian out there etc... to me it's in-between boring and slightly nasty, a bit like a moonlight white except if someone replaced most of the sweetness with unpleasant sourness and some sort of bitter walnut. no interesting mouthfeel or much nuance. only decent part is the smell, which is pleasantly autumnal with some dried apple and whatnot
if this is the best, then the worst one must be downright horrid

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Has anyone ever ordered from Purple Cane? I had a chance to try picrel which is 100 year tree Lao Cong Shui Xian, but when asked which tea it was the dude who brought it acted like a massive faggot and said we shouldn't even bother because it's very expensive old bush tea. It was a while ago when they still had the older packaging, I remember the tea was amazing, complex and smooth at the same time with lots of honey aroma. The price isn't cheap, 60 euros for 75grams but I'm wondering if their teas are overpriced or worth it. Memory is blurry at this point and I was a newbie back then so can't tell if really is that good.

>> No.19840421

>>19838449
I've bought from him a few times. His teaware is amazing but his tea isn't worth it. You can find similar or even better for less and all his cakes smell the same when you get them. It goes away after a few months but it makes me wonder how he stores them.

>> No.19840425

>>19840383
>100 year tree Lao Cong Shui Xian
>60 euros for 75grams
Not much of an yancha expert, but i feel like such a tea should be more expensive (if real). EOT has such a tea for 180 bucks / 80g. If you like the tea it doesn't matter really.

>> No.19840436

>>19839605
does the Chen Sheng Hao site do sales? I wouldn't mind grabbing a sampler or some fresh Naka

>> No.19840439

>>19840383
Hard to say. If it is what is says on the box (old tree early spring dancong) then the price is sort of in the right range. Seems expensive to me.
Sounds weird but if i wanted to splurge on dancong i would probably order from hojo tea in japan. His tea list is up as a pdf and you have to email the shop to order but he has a very extensive selection of Phoenix / dancong and seems to be very discerning about what he stocks.
His proces are somewhat similar ($60-$80 for 120g and he offers smaller portions as well)
https://hojotea.com/

>> No.19840462

>>19840436
They send me promotions occasionally, its usually a sale on some signe cake that costs $150+ or some small sample bricks of different teas going for like $14-$18. Honestly at least for western facing vendors their own sites prices are alright. Seem cheaper then kingteamall. I guess you could sign up for emails and see if they do any 11.11 sales.
They are still offering that sample set for $15 with free shipping if you haven't gotten it already, its two 7g portions of some old tree bulang and some teabags.
https://cspuerh.com/products/2022-chen-sheng-jiang-xin-sample
Like these $250g naka bricks are fairly reasonable as far as csh prices go
https://cspuerh.com/collections/na-ka/products/2021-na-ka-raw-pu-erh-tea-1

>> No.19840491

>>19840436
>does the Chen Sheng Hao site do sales?
They send me emails about sales occasionally. I can send you a referral code for $20 off if you want one. I would get $20 off as well so it would make me happy.

>>19840462
>They are still offering that sample set for $15 with free shipping if you haven't gotten it already, its two 7g portions of some old tree bulang and some teabags.
you can get the free with you first order as well
>Get 5 FREE tea samples
>Join our newsletter and enjoy 5 free tea samples on your first order. Add Sample Box in your cart and use CODE: WELCOME. In addition, be the first to know about new arrivals, sales and promotions.

>Like these $250g naka bricks
They are $61 I think you accidentally some numbers.

>> No.19840501

>>19840491
>They are $61 I think you accidentally some numbers.
Yup, i meant to type 250g. The full size 2023 naka cake is also $90 which isint too bad either. Im guessing you could get slightly better prices buying from some tea distributor on taoabo but the shipping would probably cancel it out unless you got a few cakes. It also seems like these brands are pivoting to more of a direct to consumer model so they might not be giving the steep wholesale discounts they once did.

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>>19834030
Drinking this slep tea right now, never seen it outside Italy but it's pretty good

>> No.19840701

>>19840666
Chamomile and passion flower? I haven't had that blend but i drink a lot of chamomile

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19840733

drinking some yupin 1953 fu cha. probably from 2019-2020 cant remember. When I first tried it a year ago it was way too smokey and very overpowering. It has since mellowed out. It has creamy notes, almost a subtle banana flavor too. theres still smokeyness but its much less upfront. The smokeyness is nice on cold days, but I think I prefer unsmoked fu cha from what ive had. the 2019 sun fu from white2tea was really good, and what I have in mind when it comes to unsmoked fu cha.

>> No.19840738

>>19839374
Where did you buy your cup? It looks pretty

>> No.19840749

>>19840733
The bishaxi black box fu brick is pretty nice for a smokey fu, but yeah it needs like a decade to mellow out. Unsmoked fu is good too, try some of the gao jia shan productions that YS has if you get the chance. They make some really pretty bricks as far as fu goes

>> No.19840799

>>19840462
yeah I got the tiny sample pack when it was 5$
the Naka brick would by my main pick. or the 200 gram mini cake sample set
>>19840491
the referral would be cool!

>> No.19840816

>>19840799
>the referral would be cool!
Give me a sec and I will make one.

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>>19840701
I have picrel, just took the other photo off the internet. Tastes like chamomile tea bag, but it's instant tea powder that dissolves with hot water. Melatonin has no flavor. Brand doesn't matter, they're all the same so I get the cheapest.

>> No.19840839

>>19840832
I can't take melatonin it gives me horrific vivid nightmares

>> No.19840845

>>19840839
Opposite for me, gives me good old boring sleep that makes me feel rested even if it's only 5-6 hours long, also makes it easier to wake up early for the wage slaving

>> No.19840848

Buying bottled water has become unsustainable, my water fortunately has an appropriate level of hardness, but is pretty much undrinkable due to chlorine / chloramine. It smells disgusting, and everything made with it smells disgusting. In theory activated carbon should handle this, but I wasn't impressed with Brita and I don't really want a jug. Ideally I'm looking for a generic refillable countertop filter setup than can filter around a gallon at a time over any time frame, I don't need it on-demand.

>>19840839
Worth noting if you just grabbed some off amazon, the optimal dose is around 300mcg or 0.3g, it's a hormone so it's very much not a more is better or more is more effective type deal. It won't make you sleepy directly, it triggers biological processes which then make you sleepy. Subjectively I've found that taking more doesn't change the way I sleep at all but does cause vivid strange dreams, at a constant lower dose I don't have the weird vivid melatonin dreams or wake up at 3AM for half an hour.

>> No.19840860

>>19840799
>>19840816
Here is the Chen Sheng Hao discount link if anyone wants to use it. Note that the $20 off apparently only works on orders of $50 or more but that is also the free shipping threshold so I assume you will spend that much.
https://i.refs.cc/i9DCkFen?smile_ref=eyJzbWlsZV9zb3VyY2UiOiJzbWlsZV91aSIsInNtaWxlX21lZGl1bSI6IiIsInNtaWxlX2NhbXBhaWduIjoicmVmZXJyYWxfcHJvZ3JhbSIsInNtaWxlX2N1c3RvbWVyX2lkIjoxOTIwNjcwMzk3fQ%3D%3D

>> No.19840875
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>>19840848
The pur plus filters (these big long ones) are reasonably good with the caveat that they are slow and get dried out easily, so you need to get the big 5 litre dispenser and keep it mostly full. If you let the filter dry out you have to run it under the sink or soak it for 10 minutes to get it going again.
Im also under the impression that just letting water stand for around 24 hrs will allow most of the chlorine to evaporate but i might be totally wrong.
If at all possible the best option is adding a two or three stnge undersink filter that's rated for chlorine removal. The set up will cost $100-$120 and the filters another $60 a year.

>> No.19840883

>>19840860
thanks anon! do you know if this code is valid for a long time, or do I need to use it ASAP?

>> No.19840886

>>19840875
Also those puer filters are stupidly expensive on amazon for some reason, much better prices on wallmarts website or in stores

>> No.19840891

Has anyone tried making tea via percolation? I was going to try and put tea in a moka pot for memes.

>> No.19840898

>>19840891
Making tew un a percolator is close enough to boiling it that i don't think it would come out differently.
>moka pot
We have a coffeefag crossposter who blasts tea through his espresso machine sometimes

>> No.19840899

>>19840848
Get a chink knockoff Berkey from amazon, ~$100

>> No.19840902

>>19840898
Ya but I think for espresso machine, there are "recipes" for it. Decent espresso machine I think even has a setting for tea and it's like 2bar pressure for like 30-40 seconds then release. Basically pressurized gong fu.

>> No.19840913

>>19840883
>do you know if this code is valid for a long time, or do I need to use it ASAP?
No clue, this is my fist time trying. I expect it does not change but if it ends up not working just ask and I will make a new one. As an aside I am pleasantly surprised that 4chan's filter did not accidentally eat my link.

>> No.19840914

>>19840891
I've done this with cheap lapsang. It got overbrewed and therefore astringent but otherwise it was fine. You can't really adjust brew temp on a moka all that much so I would do it with a tea you know won't get bitter. Most shu, some oolongs etc.

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>>19840902
He has a special portifilter with an adjustable valve to release at a cetain psi, i think he does ground up tea at like 5-6 bar but i might be off.
Anyways when you ask about a percolator are you talking about pic related? Or do you call moka pots percolators?

>> No.19840923

>>19840916
My understanding is that percolation is just pushing hot water through, like a moka pot does.

>> No.19840925

>>19840848
Sadly, even large amounts of melatonin don't give me any extra dreams.

>>19840875
>undersink filter
I second using an under sink filter if you can. I spent $120 or so on hardware and $50 a year on filters. Probably cheaper then filter pitchers in the long run and definitely more convenient. Better filtration too.

>> No.19840949

>>19840923
Americans have these retarded things called percolators that they used to use for coffee, they are different then moka pots.
Anyways you could probably get some interesting results with a moka pot, you might want to grind the tea some to increase surface area and make a tighter puck.

>> No.19840984

>>19840949
USA USA USA

>> No.19841233
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19841233

Some Jin xuan oolong

>> No.19841253

>>19841233
Does it taste milky?

>> No.19841262

>>19841253
Tastes brothy.

>> No.19841311

Speaking of Chen Sheng Hao has anyone here tried their "budget" banzhang area blend?
https://cspuerh.com/collections/all/products/2023-yin-ban-zhang-raw-pu-erh-tea
https://cspuerh.com/collections/all/products/2023-ban-zhang-yin-xiang-raw-pu-erh-tea
I am kinda considering grabbing some.

>> No.19841397

>>19841311
>Yin Ban Zhang
>Upon tasting, it has low bitterness and astringency but with quick huigan, strong chaqi, and the body feel is noticeable.
I guess it depends on what you are looking for in banzang material but i tend to prefer some solid bitterness.
>Ban Zhang Yin Xiang
>Harmonious and full-bodied, with a strong but short-lived bitterness, the rich tea soup offers a sweet and bitter fusion, showcasing the powerful, authentic taste of BanZhang.
So its a blend thats supposed to taste like LBZ without having any LBZ. I like the concept and i would assume the guys at CSH probably know how to blend a tea to get that taste profile. This one sounds good to me.

>> No.19841514

>>19841397
They have a blog post describing the cakes but it is still not entirely clear to me what the intended differences between "Yin Ban Zhang" and "Ban Zhang Yin Xiang" are.
https://cspuerh.com/blogs/tea-101/ban-zhang

>> No.19841593

>>19841514
Its not really clear but im guessing the more expensive cake uses somewhat more premium material, or the blends are focused on different flavor profiles with teas from the same region

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/ctg/ anon visiting because I want to drink something other than coffee after 3PM
Where can I get some decent oolong tea in Canada? Online is fine though I'm local to Vancouver so I'm sure there are tea shops around here if someone here is also local and knows a reputable store.
I used to use whole leaf tea bags but I no longer have easy access to buy them (pic related)

>> No.19841688

>>19840738
Aliexpress,

>> No.19841705
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Sencha fukamushi is really good

>> No.19841810

>>19841627
Asian grocery stores can be good for cheap oolong. If you want something nicer try
https://treasuregreen.com/en-us/collections/iron-buddha-tea-tieguanyin-%E9%90%B5%E8%A7%80%E9%9F%B3%E8%8C%B6
Or
https://aromateahouse.ca/collections/tiguanyin-%E9%90%A1%E8%A7%80%E9%9F%B3
Try some kind of roasted Tieguanyin and maybe a greener one and see which you like more

>> No.19841812

>>19841705
i can see the mushi

>> No.19841813

>>19841311
>>19841397
TeaDB tried the first one. from what they say, it's not lacking in bitterness, should be more punchy than their classic #1 blend. sounds pretty damn good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL_mnhk1F1Q
really makes me tempted to grab that sampler. although the Naka cake also sounds like a great value on paper...

>> No.19841822

>>19841705
might have some today, either that or some young raw. interesting experience to drink a green tea that's so thick and full-bodied, it's almost like a smoothie

>> No.19841825

>>19841813
Nice, thanks for finding that

>> No.19841883
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19841883

Just about finished with my Fa Zhan He cake from farmer leaf.
Good tea, i really enjoyed it.
I might grab another one to drink this winter.
I have no i dea how a tea like this would age. I have to wonder if it would age well. I have very little experience with aging tea at home but i don't know if the citrus and floral notes would last.

>> No.19841886

>>19841813
Thanks for the intel.
>really makes me tempted to grab that sampler. although the Naka cake also sounds like a great value on paper...
The Naka cake or brick, the minicake sampler, and the Yin Ban Zhang are the things I am looking at myself. The Naka cake is probably the best value but I also want to try some of CSH's more iconic teas. Decisions, decisions...

>> No.19841940

>>19841883
I wouldn't try to age it personally. not much bitterness to age out, it's very pleasant as-is. it's also a single origin tea from an unknown location, so it's a big gamble. although I guess it's cheap enough that you could go for it if you wanted
>>19841886
I haven't had a Naka before, but it sounds great on paper. I love strong sweetness balanced with a nice bitterness
then again Yin Ban Zhang and the #1 blend also sound nice. cakes might be out of my budget, but samples would be fun to try

>> No.19841985

>>19841940
>I wouldn't try to age it personally. not much bitterness to age out, it's very pleasant as-is.
Yeah i wasn't planning on it, i was just wondering what the other posters that had tried it would think. My impression is that its not a cake to age. There is a little bit of bitter but certainly not a lot. I would be concerned that after a decade it would just be sweet and kinda bland.

>> No.19842148

>>19841985
agreed. I'm a little sceptical of ageing modern style super clean single origin productions in general. especially when they're on the softer side like that tea

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>>19834030
Lipton Black Tea. What do you think?

>> No.19842204

>>19842184
better than the really shitty stuff, noticably worse than brands like Ahmad or Dilmah. really just exists to be drowned out with sugar and milk. will be mogged hard by any chinese loose leaf black tea

>> No.19842213

>>19835094
港専紅茶 "Port" (Likely referring to 香港=Hong Kong) specialty black tea. The second character is written a way that's specific to Japanese rather than the Chinese 專, so it might be a Japanese package.

>> No.19842271

>>19842184
Buy a loose leaf Lapsang. Like a dark smokey pine flavor.

>> No.19842394
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19842394

Drinking this cake I got a while ago, must be 2 years by now. Storage: on an open shelf in the room, don't bother with humid storage containers because it was cheap and I'm not a puer person. It's pretty "dry" tasting, wooden, liquid gets very dark but it's not thick. Not a fan of wet and funky shou so this is good enough for me.

>> No.19842400

man, I'm gonna have quite the dilemma what store to order from this black friday. depends on what the deals will be I guess
craving a really sweet young raw, possibly bittersweet

>> No.19842420

>>19842400
Farmer leaf if you want young raw honesly would get 15% overall during black friday i think for it.

>> No.19842434

>>19842420
Do they ever stock the french site anymore?

>> No.19842465

>>19842434
No, it was only during covid for shipping reasons. If you are in eu It's 2-3 weeks shipping from china and free.

>> No.19842476

>>19842420
yeah I'm thinking farmerleaf, cspuerh or white2tea
I guess I can always order at all three if white2tea does the free shipping promo...
but I'm also fussy and indecisive when it comes to young raws. maybe it would be prudent to go for samples for now

>> No.19842482

>>19842476
Depends on what you like and what would be added, i know i'll be ordering on farmer leaf because i already know what i'm looking for.

>> No.19842542
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19842542

I read somewhere that tibetans make up tea with milk or butter and a pinch of salt, and since it's a muggy rainy day I made some with xiaguan baoyan ripe, I dunno if I did it "right".
There seemed to be some kind of savoury seaweed note at first but I can't detect it after a few cups.
Nice and warming anyway I'll make it this way again. You may be able to trick your friends into drinking heicha with this.

>> No.19842562

>>19842482
and what are you looking for, personally?
I feel like I might still be inexperienced, maybe I should still explore more. from Farmerleaf I liked the Fa Zhan He, slightly enjoyed the Dong Guo and Bangwai. got a full cake of the Fa Zhan He but I'm craving something more intense now. I'm curious about Lao Man E, but I think a full cake would be too ballsy at this point, not sure if I can daily an extremely bitter tea

>> No.19842575

>>19842562
Buying samples is annoying since they're so expensive per gram, but I recommend it especially when you're starting this. It's also good to drink a bunch of cheap or mediocre tea because you need to understand the full range of tea to develop your palate anyway.
Speaking of cheap samples, we're coming up on the yearly catfight about the Liquidproust sampler aren't we?

>> No.19842577

I'll be ordering a 7572 sometime soon as I'm at that point with shou of wanting to taste the benchmark. What would be a good benchmark for (factory) aged sheng to go along with it?
Should I get some 8653 like KTM recommends? I was originally thinking 7542 but then I saw what they go for.

>> No.19842592

>>19842575
>Buying samples is annoying since they're so expensive per gram
that's why I'm eyeing that cspuerh sampler, it's not marked up too much in comparison to cakes. 200 grams of different intense teas to see what type of intensity I like the most could be nice. problem is IDK if I'd want to full cake any of them at that price, except for the Naka brick which also sounds the most enticing to me from the descriptions
for ripe I feel confident just buying whole cakes at this point, but young raw is very hit or miss for me
I wish more boutique vendors would do 100 gram sizes

>> No.19842593

>>19842562
I like some of the oolongs and black sold on farmer leaf, bitterness shouldn't be an issue ever even with a lao man e you just have to brew it the way you enjoy it more. I will choose cakes on the moment i like rather sweet one but enjoy strong mouth feels so biterness is a part of it too. For this autumn i hope to see a gushu black added and i'll be buying another 100g of Fen Shui Ling Oolong Black if there's some left that's for sure.

>> No.19842611

>>19842577
I think if you want to minmax value per benchmarkiness you should get an 8582, minicake 7542 and Xiaguan Jia Ji tuo from fullchea
KTM is overpriced for many Dayi productions. their selection of Xiaguan tuos is very good though

>> No.19842615

>>19842611
Any recs for non-overprices Dayi stuff? I'm just convinced it's impossible to find that on a western-oriented market

>> No.19842618

>>19842593
>bitterness shouldn't be an issue ever even with a lao man e you just have to brew it the way you enjoy it more
yeah I'm not sure where I stand on bitterness yet. I definitely don't mind a medium amount of bitterness, or high amount if it's short and balanced with other flavors. though I tried some semiaged bulang sample that had a nasty medical sort of bitterness that didn't really transform into sweetness, that was offputting. then again, I also quite enjoyed a premium young bulang that was very bitter but also had a strong upfront sweetness

are the Farmerleaf Lao Man E cakes significantly sweet? does the bitterness linger?

>> No.19842623

>>19842615
just buy on Awazon or Fullchea. The 19$ 7572 and 9$/100gram Spring of Menghai on Awazon are good value IMO. Fullchea has slightly higher prices, but cheaper shipping and more humid storage

>> No.19842624

>>19842618
Lao man e is known for it's "bitterness" yes. You have different sort of cakes from lao man e usually the older the sweeter but even the small trees can feel sweet with the right parameters. Bitterness is there but it's a good one and it's what people look for when buy lao man e so it's really part of it.

>> No.19842629

>>19842618
Watch this https://youtu.be/TWEOeis2gQk?t=147

>> No.19842638

>>19842618
they have some sweetness, it's not a medicinal bitterness, i find it a bit hard to describe but it's pleasant. you'll have to try a sample to know if it's your thing though.

>> No.19842642

>>19842611
Hm, I just got some Te Ji from KTM, haven't tried it yet. I guess it's supposed to be slightly better material than Jia Ji.

I'll be on the lookout for 8582 as well, but I'm a bit iffy about ordering from Fullchea and Awazon even if prices are right. I dislike not being able to play with my cart with the former and am a bit worried about book lice with the latter. Neither is really a deal breaker, just puts them lower on my priority list when it comes time to order. There's plenty of other tea I'm interested in, after all.

>> No.19842647

>>19842642
tuochatea also has a cheap 8582 with some age on it. bone-dry storage though, most people say these factory cakes can use more humidity
for what it's worth, I didn't get any nasty surprises with my Awazon order

>> No.19842653

>>19842638
yeah I guess a whole cake of famously bitter tea would be reckless at this point when I still don't have a solid grasp of my preferences for young raw
wouldn't even consider it if I weren't such a sucker for bargains and value. I'll just sample it at some point

>> No.19842658

>>19842653
Building a good starting baseline for your preference is a good idea too. Small trees is 100 for a cake it's really on the cheaper side. If you are really starting the puerh journey i would suggest trying different gardens first before getting too deep into one terroir but that's just my opinion.

>> No.19842667

>>19842618
Lao Man E is my favorite. There are two prominent varietals on the mountain, the sweet and the bitter. Both are more punchy than your average young puer, but both are so mighty and incredible. I could see how it's not for everybody, but I think absolutely everyone should try a little.
Farmer Leaf 2022 Sweet Gu Shu is my favorite tea easily. It stood out as an instant 10/10. Makes me drool thinking about it.

>> No.19842690

>>19842653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU9CNgGZ8V4

>> No.19842708

>>19841985
>Fa Zhan He
>I was just wondering what the other posters that had tried it would think.
I probably would not preference it as an aging candidate but I also don't doubt that it would at least be pleasant with a couple decades of age on it. Even a slightly boring aged sheng can still make a nice cup.

>>19842394
Nice meme cake

>> No.19842714

>>19842575
>we're coming up on the yearly catfight about the Liquidproust sampler aren't we?
Yeah, I know he is doing it again this year. I will post a heads up when I know the drop date.

>> No.19842729

w2t shu sale is live.

I'm drinking the 2008 DTH Shou from TWL

>> No.19842738

>>19842729
I don't even know how much I like shoe, I'll probably just get the minis.

>> No.19842745

>>19841822
That's a good description. I like it because it's not as intense as matcha, but stronger than other green teas.

>> No.19842749

>>19842729
What are the odds the trick or treat bags will still be available at the end of the day?

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>>19842729

>> No.19842758

>>19842749
last year it was gone in 2 days, I think. the contents were more interesting and varied.
I would get the charlie cake if it wasn't behind the paywall of mediocre shous.

>> No.19842768
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Native Cultivar Reserve from Red Blossom. Used Red Blossom's recommended directions of 1g per 1oz at 180°F for 2m.

Hadn't drunken it in awhile and it came out much more mild than I remembered. Kinda bog standard for bug-bitten tea. Must've done something different the first time as I remember it being more complex.

>> No.19842789

>>19842658
yeah I'm definitely gonna sample some more, this time with a more focused intent on trying well-known locations

>> No.19842794

>>19842768
really cute teaset. where did you get it?

>> No.19842819

>>19842729
anything that's outstanding value?
speaking of, drinking 2018 Haiwan 9978. 18$ for a full sized cake of fruity, burnt caramel coffee goodness. repackage this in funny wrappers, call it "frappucino", sell for 40$ and watch the money roll in

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19842849

I ordered some samples and a few cakes I was more sure about. I'm probably going to divvy up the minis into Christmas gifts.

>> No.19842855

>>19842794
Thank you.

I got the teapet first from KTM (though I've seen other retailers carry it). The flowery teacup was a freebie from Purple Cloud when I put in an order. The teapot, round teacup, and tray were purchased afterwards from Craftedleaf to turn it all into a set.

>> No.19842945

>>19842768
what's bug-bitten tea like? worth seeking out?
also, what's the volume of that teapot roughly? i've been trying to pick one lately, that looks a pretty good size.

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19842986

to anyone who's interested my extension is now on chrome and firefox stores. links on this page
https://gitlab.com/glodfinch/tease
i've added awazon and yeeontea so now supporting 7 shops in all. if you had it installed already on firefox you might have to enable new permissions for the new sites.

>> No.19843006

>>19842986
Nice, i will toss that in the pastebin later. Thanks

>> No.19843014

>>19834573
It still happens

>> No.19843021

>>19842986
Nice to see you got so many of the ones I'd use implemented. I haven't bought from Fullchea in a while, though didn't you say the way they index items/pricing makes that site a little difficult to set up? That and some of the JP tea sites in the Pastebin could be cool. Also, I don't use Yunnan's US site, but I imagine that could be supported since you enabled support for the main YS site. I'll have to set it up on my desktop soon when I start buying during upcoming sales.

>> No.19843024

>>19842849
I was thinking of finally sampling some of white2tea's ripes, but ehh, I might just grab a snoozefest and lumber slut with the free shipping if they do that again at black friday

>> No.19843044
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19843044

>cousins gf was the only person to make a tea that I actually enjoyed
>he broke up with her even though she was an amazing person
>now I don't even know where she is or how I could reach out to her. not that I would, I would look like a serial killer
I still think about the strange tea blends she made for me. She had a gigantic cabinet full of literally hundreds of types...so I'll likely never be able to rechase that first high I got

>> No.19843047

>>19842945
>what's bug-bitten tea like? worth seeking out?
It's one of the naturally sweet tasting teas. If you like honey/floral tastes, you'd like it.

>also, what's the volume of that teapot roughly?
170 mL

https://www.craftedleaf-tea.com/product-page/handmade-turquoise-teapot

>> No.19843052

>>19843024
Notice I'm only sampling some of the small batch ripes. I want to see if there is a difference because some of those prices hurt.

>> No.19843062

>>19843044
Don't worry, if you get really into tea you'll be shocked at how quickly your cabinet fills up as well
The first tea that really showed me how good and surprising pure tea leaves can be was two lightly oxidized Taiwanese oolongs someone brought me as a gift from a trip. Couldn't believe that tea can be so delicate, sweet and floral.

>> No.19843065

>>19843021
>fullchea
yeah at a glance it looked fairly disorganised which just makes things trickier. but having a closer look it seems the weight of most things is in the title of the listing which is usually sufficient, i'll try adding them next.

>Yunnan's US site
i'll check on this one also

>> No.19843070

>>19842729
>I'm drinking the 2008 DTH Shou from TWL
Looks interesting, how is it?

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19843073

>Everyone posting fancy clay pots
>I just drink out of a Nimble pot that's intended for cold pressing coffee

It just works.

>> No.19843077

>>19843052
Yeah, I've noticed. I'm sure I'll break and sample some premium boutique ripes at some point. But for now, buying that Tale Chaser, I would just be thinking "damn, I could have bought a whole Fuhai 7576 cake on Awazon with this 12$"

>> No.19843079

>>19843065
Fullchea would be quite useful because they offer so many different package sizes for their loose leaf

>> No.19843086

>>19843073
Even just a glass works for many teas, really. About to have some trve premium Bi Luo Chun, straight in the glass, grandpa style. Can't imagine brewing quality Chinese greens any other way at this point.

>> No.19843097

>>19842986
Appreciate it. If there are any ideas you have for additions or more stores, could you drop them as issues? I'd like to see what direction you're thinking and contribute.

>> No.19843135

>>19843006
thanks!
>>19843097
great, good idea i'll do that. and if you have anything you'd like added yourself go ahead and make an issue.

>> No.19843554

raw pu-erh really activates my autism like no other tea. feels like there is so much possible nuance, so many factors to consider, so much depth. and yet I find much of it difficult to love so far, and I do not yet know why. I should try to be less obsessive about tea and take it slow until I really know what I'm looking for.

>> No.19843558

>>19843554
Its fine if you just don't like puer that much. Oolong is better anyways

>> No.19843579

>>19843558
I do like it, I'm just a bit picky and very obsessive

>> No.19843654

>>19843554
In my opinion, appreciating subtle nuance and being a rabid autist are parts of the same coin. If you find you don't like some things, but still enjoy various qualities/notes, consider how you're preparing it, how much material you're using, how long you infuse it, even how you drink/taste it. You'll probably find that you enjoy it more when you 'get' it and find what works for your preferences. Then you can just chill and enjoy its complexities simply.

>> No.19843855

>>19843554
You reach a point where you have preferences but don't really care as long as it's got more going on than hot, slightly flavored water. You note things and move on. Sometimes you find some good shit that does the things you want, but usually it's just vaguely pleasant with interesting notes in odd quantities going in and out of the experience.

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Let's goooooo! Happy Halloween/Shulloween!

>> No.19843934

finally got to try some aged pu-erh tea for the first time today and almost got knocked on my ass from how much caffeine was in it. Like comparable to triple shots of espresso with how jittery it made me over the hour and a half i drank it over, is this normal for proper chinese teas or just a thing with aged pu-erh?

>> No.19843974

>>19843885
That shou bag seems cool, do they always do this? I wonder if it's worth getting over their BF offerings. Never bought from W2T before.

>> No.19843982

>>19843974
They're pretty controversial for hobbyist reasons, but nobody denies they have some darn good tea. Get some samples and balls! Better yet, get the trick or treat bag and see what you think.

>> No.19843997

>>19843982
Yeah, $/g wise, I've avoided them for years, but a fat grab bag of shou sounds like fun. Are these likely to sell out soon? I wonder if they've done the trick-or-treat bags before, and how they're labeled (so I can find out which ones/year I'm tasting).

>> No.19844007

Personally I think w2t's cheap shou is pretty bad, but I don't really like cheap shou in general so I doubt it's especially worse than the other stuff you can get for the price.

>> No.19844011

>>19843997
Hard to say if they're likely to sell out. They are a limited time only sale, however.
>Don’t delay, these deals will disappear on Sunday the 29th at midnight PST - or while supplies last!
The minis are individually wrapped with the same design as their cake counterparts, so at least you will be able to tell which is which even if you don't know the name.
>>19844007
I haven't met a cheap shou I didn't like :^)

>> No.19844060

>>19843579
Do you have a favorite village/mountain/region? Do you have a good idea of wbat flavor profiles you are after or are you still trying to figure that out?

>> No.19844075

>>19843934
Some puerh can be extremely potent, it isn't all like that but ive had a few cakes where i had to be careful when i drink them. I don't notice that intensity super often in other Chinese teas but I'm sure there are some out there.

>> No.19844152

>>19843885
>Limber slut tong
I see somebody likes wood. Are you a fan of that production?

>>19843974
>That shou bag seems cool, do they always do this?
They have done a "Shulloween" sale for a few years now.
>I wonder if it's worth getting over their BF offerings.
Depends on what you want to get. For "Shulloween" they have good deals on packs of shou. For Black Friday they will have a limited edition sheng cake or two, free shipping (a $10 value), and sometimes throw in a extra sample or some W2T swag. I suspect they split the sales up like this to take some pressure off of Black Friday order fulfillment and many convince a some people to put in multiple orders.

>> No.19844174

>>19844152
>limber slut
lmao
I've only had a mini but I thought it was just fine! Good price, not afraid to hold on to it for a while, plus I sell tea to a number of my friends and coworkers, so I'm certain I can burn through it before too long.

>> No.19844387

>>19844174
>I've only had a mini but I thought it was just fine!
I have only had a sample but name aside I also thought it was pretty good. I like it when shou blends have a more focused flavor profile than just "shou".
>Good price, not afraid to hold on to it for a while
Not a bad idea, I am sure it is perfectly drinkable now but fresh shou can often benefit from a year or two of rest after wet piling to let it "cool off" IMO.
>plus I sell tea to a number of my friends and coworkers
Must be nice to have people to share puerh with. I don't know anyone else IRL of a sapphic persuasion.

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>>19834030
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