/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.19825466]

Was the prices of grocery items really much cheaper 20 to 30 years ago?

[Anonymous No.19825476]

>>19825466
No the price of things has always been constant

[Anonymous No.19825813]

>>19825466
When I first moved out of my parents house I was broke and could only spend $20/week on groceries.
A box of macaroni cost 76 cents in 2018 now costs $1.50.
Prices doubled in five years so 20 and even 30 years back I could only imagine how far a dollar could stretch.

[Anonymous No.19825821]

>>19825813
Maybe if you ate half as much pasta it wouldn't be an issue. Every think about that fatso?

[Anonymous No.19825823]

>>19825466
when i was in uni in 2004 it was $24 for a 30pack of beer
shits $50 now
i remember my uni housemates and I used to all chip in $50 each for a month's worth of groceries and buy in bulk
now $50 gets you enough food for 2 or 3 days when you consider how expensive even basic shit like bread, milk, veg, drinks etc are now

[Anonymous No.19825825]

>>19825823
No way a 30 rack is 50 bucks. What are you buying?

[Anonymous No.19825830]

>>19825825
Just check. Prices for beer haven't moved since 2005

[Anonymous No.19825902]

>>19825821
>>19825813
boxes are half the size they once were

[Anonymous No.19825919]

>>19825466
No money was just worth more.

[Anonymous No.19825935]

>>19825466
i am getting paid the same i did 5 years ago i guess im a huge idiot

[Anonymous No.19825940]

>>19825823
GO FUCK YOURSELF

when i was in college in 2006 a 30pack was $15.36 after tax and crv

now it’s about $22

you are a piece of shit

[Anonymous No.19826057]

>>19825466
yes, most things are at a minimum double of what they were in the 1990s, but when you consider the containers have also shrunk, groceries are triple to quadruple now

[Anonymous No.19826091]

>>19825813
I hope things are better financially now anon. How are you holding up?

[Anonymous No.19826108]

>>19825466
things are a lot more expensive than the rate of inflation. it's a complete and utter rort from all angles

[Anonymous No.19826124]

>>19826057
that's bullshit, computer and cellphones were incredibly expensive back then, now they are much cheaper

[Anonymous No.19826125]

>>19826124
Shit bait

[Anonymous No.19826128]

>>19825466
they were much cheaper a few years ago
before the dark times, before biden

[Anonymous No.19826323]

niggas discovering inflation
price increases are irrelevant, what you need to account for is price in relation to minimum and median wage

[Anonymous No.19826326]

>>19826124
In 1990 a phone was $5.

[Anonymous No.19826337]

>>19825466
it's all toilet paper if you look closely.

[Anonymous No.19826346]

>>19825466
Yes? Have you never heard of inflation? In my shithole prices are around 7-8 times what they used to be when I was a kid.

[Anonymous No.19826354]

>>19825813

I remember as a kid I'd spend a dollar and get a literal 20 pack of reeses cups at the dollar store. I remember that large articulate buzz light year toy with all the lights, moving joints and sounds/movie accurate voice, wad 19.99 at Walmart. who knows how much it would be now. this was about 96 or so, I believe. I was a kid so I only remember a little bit. I recall my parents 2 bath 4 bedroom house with a back yard cost them about 650 a month cause I overheard them discussing rent once.

[Anonymous No.19826358]

>>19825940
you need to be 18 or older to use this website

[Anonymous No.19826366]

>>19826337
In the movie he says he bought milk, eggs and fabric softener.

[Anonymous No.19826405]

>>19825466
Yes

[Anonymous No.19826504]

>>19825466
When that movie came out minimum wage was like $4.50. So he spent ~4hours of income on fabric softener, eggs, and milk. There’s different ways to measure different things. Back in the 90s when I was the same age as my dad was in the 60s, I was making $10/hr and paying less than $1 for gas where he worked for $1/hr and paid $0.25 for gas.

I think there was a sweet spot in the 90s when production and shipping increased due to computers and GPS to a point that products were really cheap while incomes were at about the max recovery from the 70s and 80s recessions.

[Anonymous No.19826568]

>>19826091
He won't answer this. Nobody will. Everyone is complaining about rising prices yet nobody is starving or has changed their lifestyles.

[Anonymous No.19826574]

Minimum wage isn't $7.50 anymore. Most jobs even in the poorest states will pay you like $12/hr. That's why I hate people who bitch about the economy and rep "anti-work" talking points instead of just going full NEET. You're lacking perspective because you want to believe that the government is malicious instead of just plain stupid.

[Anonymous No.19826790]

>>19826366
Also bought frozen Mac and Cheese, army men, and I don’t remember what else when the cashier was scanning.

[Anonymous No.19826937]

>>19825823
>now $50 gets you enough food for 2 or 3 days

how can you be so bad at getting enough food to last you for a week with 50$ ? I can spend less than 10$ alone for a homecook meal that'll last tonight and 2 days. Get sandwiche meat, frozen meals, Ramen noodles, cheap frozen pizza, eggs, etc. lookout for sales at stores. There bound to be bogo free or cheaper deals at most well know grocery stores.

[Anonymous No.19826980]

Because of price shifts, I've had to give up on all the food I loved to eat.

Salmon went from barely possible to irresponsible. When I was buying my own food in 2011, I could buy antlantic wild caught salmon for like 4$ a meal, it was stocked by the no longer existent lobster tank. Now they dont even sell wild caught, just farm raised from chile and its twice as much, so 8$ for a single meal, which I will never be able to afford again.

Mussels used to be $1 a bag. Now they are $5 a bag, never go on sale, and come in about half the amount that they used to.

Crab legs are my favorite food that Id get on holidays as a treat. Thats no longer even remotely possible. I can never validate a 20$+ meal since I make nothing.

I've mostly transitioned to just eating potatoes (which also doubled in price in the last year, but I buy them on sale at $5 for 10lbs), and canned tuna. I also have ulcerative colitis so i can't eat any grains at all, or seed oils as these things inflame my digestive system.

I also eat pork sausage now since its the cheapest protein I can find. Canned tuna has to be bought on sale, usually Ill take the whole shelf of it because the quality tuna is 4-5$ a can, but on sale it dips to 1.50$ a can, so I literally walk out with 30+ cans.

[Anonymous No.19827124]

>>19825823
>$50 for a 30 pack of piss water
Not buying it. You must live in the Peoples Republic of Trudeau buying food with monopoly money.

[Anonymous No.19827133]

>>19825466
It depends what you buy, but that amount of groceries looks typical for $44 of today's money.

[Anonymous No.19827153]

>>19825940
anon its almost impossible to get a 6pack under $15 now stop kidding yourself

[Anonymous No.19827161]

>>19826937
>Get sandwiche meat
$7
>frozen meals
$9
>Ramen noodles
even those shits are going up, like $5 for a 5pack now
>cheap frozen pizza
which stopped being cheap a year ago, that's up to $7~$9
>eggs
which never came back down in price after the law change, enjoy $7 for a dozen

[Anonymous No.19827176]

>>19827161
Eggs have been like 92c a dozen for a few months now. Even cheaper if you get a 18 pack.

[Anonymous No.19827186]

1/4 of weed was like £35 when I was young. Now its like £70.

[Anonymous No.19827194]

>>19827186
Fuck off. Federally illegal still you subhuman shit.

[Anonymous No.19827360]

>>19825466
I moved out in 2003.

Ramen: $0.12
GV 2 Liter of Soda: $0.49
GV Spaghetti Sauce: $0.49
GV white bread: $0.69
McDonald’s Dollar Menu: $1.00
Budweiser at a bar: $1.50
Camel Lights: $3.50

Those are a few prices I remember. I was able to get 7 days worth of food for around $20.00 at Walmart every week.

Back in 2003 minimum wage was $5.15/hr in my area, although it was common to sometimes start at $6.00/hr. Doesn’t Walmart and Target start at around $15.00/hr now? Inflation and shit…

I can’t comment on purchasing groceries in the 90’s, but my Boomer parents never had to worry about money grocery wise, it was never an issue. I miss the 90’s everyday bros…

[Anonymous No.19827383]

>>19825466
the 5$ menu use ot be a dollar menu and that was 3 years ago. what do they put in the water that makes normies not remember shit that happened in their own life time?

[Anonymous No.19827387]

>>19825813
when the first jurasic park movie came out, you could get the 'dino sized' (super sized) value meal for 2.99.

[Anonymous No.19827392]

>>19826323
>thats right goyim just pretend you arent paying more because maybe the made up numbers we dont pay you might have gone up somewhere else

lol lmao

[Anonymous No.19827624]

>>19826504
all well and good but youre forgetting spending power. a $1 for your dad was completely different to your $1

[Anonymous No.19827648]

>>19827360
how fucking obese are you

[Anonymous No.19827655]

>>19827624
Right. That’s why I listed the relative price of a gallon of gasoline compared to an hourly wage.

[Anonymous No.19827656]

things used to be cheaper per pound, and I could buy very specific qty of it easily
now it's more expensive per pound and I can only buy it in bulk because the grocery decided that was the most profitable and efficient way to sell it on their end

[Anonymous No.19827661]

>>19827153
A 6pack of pisswater is like 6 bucks, a 6pack of good craft beer/imports is like 11-12. What the fuck are you buying?

[Anonymous No.19827762]

>>19827661
They're just poisoning the well.

[Anonymous No.19827811]

>>19827655
Watching Die Hard today is a trip when you see the gas prices. It's not even THAT long ago all things considered. In 35 years the economic existence of the average American turned to a nightmare circus.

[Anonymous No.19827857]

To find out whether it was cheaper, you need to calculate your purchasing power vs. incomes in the year of your choice.

https://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/ppowerus/

Ultimately, because wage growth hasn't matched inflation over the past 50 years, you would be getting less while paying more in today's money.

[Anonymous No.19827862]

>>19827811
What's the difference between "regular" and unleaded? Did they still have leaded gasoline in 1988? Was thinking it got phased out in the 70s.

[Anonymous No.19827875]

>>19827862
I'm assuming that it's just space constraints. The Unleaded probably applies to all of them with the "super" or "premium" implied.

[Anonymous No.19827889]

>>19827661
nta but I am in Wisconsin and a 6 pack of Miller lite at my local Kwik trip is like $7.50. Spotted cow is like $22 for a 12 pack. 2 years ago that 6 pack was $6 and that 12 pack was $18, The 12 pack of tall boy PBR's I buy to get shitfaced went from $11.50 to $14.50.

[CEO of Mexican Intellectuals No.19827898]

and he had many siblings and his father owned a house and could vacation to paris with all of them. Now they just go to Cancun.

[Anonymous No.19828116]

>>19825466
Yyyup. When I was your age, sonny, my mom sent me to the grocery store with a dollar and I came back with enough groceries for the whole week.
You can't do that these days. Security cameras are a bitch.

[Anonymous No.19828151]

>>19827862
>>19827875
It just took a long time to change the signs. By that time you didn’t even need additives anymore.

[Anonymous No.19828357]

>>19825466
>Was the prices of grocery items really much cheaper 20 to 30 years ago?
Prices go up 5-10x every 30 years. Look it up.

[Anonymous No.19828943]

>>19825466
Much of the left bag is filled with toilet paper. Adjusting for inflation his $19 in 1990 would be worth $44.85 in 2023.

[Anonymous No.19828950]

>>19826323
what you need to account for is price in relation to minimum and median wage
Why, I don't make minimum wage

[Anonymous No.19828971]

>>19828151
What the fuck are you talking about? Lead was replaced with ethanol, they didn't just magically stop needing to prevent knock at some point

[Anonymous No.19829137]

>>19827176
nope
the laws that made them expensive was banning factory farming, so they're still expensive as piss and limit 2 cartons per customer

[Anonymous No.19829141]

>>19827186
>$400 an ounce here if you know a guy giving you mates rates

[Anonymous No.19829166]

>>19828943
He was probably stealing rolls of TP from public toilets or McDonald's or something to save money.
I did that when I was homeless.

[Anonymous No.19829181]

>>19827124
>drinking Coors Light
The official drink of fags with a beer belly.

[Anonymous No.19829226]

>>19825466
When you can use coupons to buy Cheetos for $1.50 or there are deals of four bags of Tostitos for $8, it's seems way cheaper now.
Soda seems to be the more expensive than ever.

[Anonymous No.19829228]

>>19826790
Toothbrush.

[Anonymous No.19829232]

>>19825823
>>19826937
I can understand $50 of food lasting two days if you're feeding two or even one other person.

[Anonymous No.19829236]

>>19826574
Now imagine the price of everything if they got their way of $15/hour.
California passed $20/hour for fast food workers, I can't imagine the outcome for that.

[Anonymous No.19829321]

>>19825813
Genuine question: where did you use to get a box of pasta for ¢76? I remember those prices from like 1998, not 2018. I need to know where to go shop.

[Anonymous No.19829325]

>>19826937
Stop roleplaying as an American online. That's not where that goes.

[Anonymous No.19829561]

>>19829321
>box of pasta
Like hamburger helper? Just buy the ingredients seperate, it's just overpriced pasta and spices.

[Anonymous No.19829570]

>>19825813
1.50?

Those things are a snack, like one of those kid size bag of chips sold at schools.
You want 4-6 and you pay like 15-20$

[Anonymous No.19829582]

>>19829236
>California passed $20/hour for fast food workers, I can't imagine the outcome for that.

The entire process is run by one person who just keeps it stocked. Toasts buns, sliced veggies, condiments to order. It can even grind specialty burgers so if you want a beef/turkey mix it can make it.

[Anonymous No.19829637]

>>19829570
Macaroni is a type of noodle anon. It comes in boxes.

[Anonymous No.19829647]

>>19829236
>Now imagine the price of everything if they got their way of $15/hour.
Minimum wage in Luxembourg is $15.77. A Big Mac costs $4.77.

https://wageindicator.org/salary/minimum-wage/luxemburg

https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/big-mac-index-by-country/

[Anonymous No.19829652]

>>19829647
>Luxembourg
anon...

[Anonymous No.19829658]

>>19829652
The highest minimum wage in Europe and more than California, yet somehow it has bankrupted McDonalds.

Compare other European countries if you like.

[Anonymous No.19829662]

>>19829658
*hasn't, fucks sake

[Anonymous No.19829669]

McDonalds isn't bankrupt, the state of CA is.

[Anonymous No.19829675]

>>19829137
I took the fucking picture anon.

[Anonymous No.19829691]

>>19825466
Used to be 99¢ for a pack of smokes. Close to $10 now.

[Anonymous No.19829695]

>>19829691
Yep, 20 years ago they were $2 a pack in TX, $10 now.

[Anonymous No.19829732]

>>19829695
Fortunately there are 20 cigarettes in a pack and if you smoke twice a day that lasts 10 days. Seems fair enough.

[Anonymous No.19829818]

How much would Matt's meal cost now?

[Anonymous No.19829844]

>>19829818
he didn't say what his meal was or what it cost, but it was probably good considering that Jennifer Aniston bought a Mercedes and Courtney Cox bought a Porsche with that same pay check.

[Anonymous No.19829848]

>>19829732
2 cigs a day?
Are you a literal actual infant baby

[Anonymous No.19829853]

>>19825813
You also make more money nowadays, so...

[Anonymous No.19829855]

>>19829853
You don't though. Wages have been stagnant for 50 years.

[Anonymous No.19829872]

>>19829855
Kids are getting jobs flipping burgers for $13/hour in my area. Dunno what shithole you're stuck in that they still paying 2.50/hr to mop floors like back in the 80s lol

[Anonymous No.19829887]

>>19829872
and 5 years ago they were getting $12 an hour
guess how much prices increased on literally everything year on year
fucking moron

[Anonymous No.19829897]

>>19829848
That's all you need. Why do more? It's supposed to be a treat/reward. That's how many I did a day for 14 years.

[Anonymous No.19829911]

Some days if I was busy none at all.

[Anonymous No.19829914]

>>19829887
LMAO no. Not just no but fuck no. Way out to out yourself as a retarded alphie.

[Anonymous No.19829916]

>>19829914
forgot my avatar

[Anonymous No.19829976]

>>19829916
Oooh. Ban!

[Anonymous No.19831109]

>>19829647
>>19829658
I always wondered if McDonald's in Europe are licensed or corporate run. There must be a huge difference.

[Anonymous No.19831126]

>>19825466
I hate /ck/ going on about prices
Yes inflation exists
$10 in 1990 is $25 today so of course it's going to sound cheaper

[Anonymous No.19831135]

>>19825823
Canada, eh? Just visited Niagra Falls. To drink light beer is almost a stupidity task because it costs the same ridiculous amount regardless of ABV.
(Still buying a $20 pitcher of Coors Light at Boston Pizza because we're on vacation dammit!")

[Anonymous No.19831168]

>>19825466
Why is this movie in particular fascinating to zoomers?
If it's not pretending they didn't know Harry was disguised as the cop
It's missing the part where they explain what the dad does for a living
Or the price of the pizzas
Or the fact the pizzas were cheese pizza
It's always something asinine about the economy of that era or obvious shit.

[Anonymous No.19831179]

>>19829236
>>19829582
Exactly; when workers become more expensive than machines, you hire less workers.
Pay $70,000/year for a guy to push a mop, or pay a couple grand to get a couple iRobot mops which one of your few remaining wagies will be given the added responsibility of caring for, or just get rid of the dine-in area entirely and so only have to service the work area. Hell, Somatic has a price plan that puts their robot jannie at just under $7/hr. You could get three of those fuckers for the price of a single whiny teen.
Things like that start becoming real easy to see. Anyone who doesn't think that's going to happen has clearly not been paying attention.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLKC4gYsDLA

[Anonymous No.19831194]

>>19825466
It wasn't that it was cheaper, it's that the dollar had many times more buying power. So the goods were that many times cheaper than today's prices, before AND after inflation.

[Anonymous No.19831205]

>>19826091
Sadly, he killed himself after that post, local police are reporting.

[Anonymous No.19831221]

>>19826574
Federal Reserve policies ARE malicious. Western government currency printing IS malicious.

[Anonymous No.19831232]

>>19827655
Which you just made up on the spot to fit your narrative you fucking weasel. Not to mention fuel economy discrepancies and a whole bunch of unopened worm cans associated with your manipulative tripe.

[Anonymous No.19831240]

>>19829658
Retard it's fucking Luxembourg

[Anonymous No.19831243]

>>19825823
>basics like...drinks
Just drink water, faggot

[Anonymous No.19831268]

>>19828971
>>19828151
>>19827875
>>19827862
>>19827811
NEET here that doesn't drive
What were the benefits to leaded vs ethanol?

[Anonymous No.19831278]

>>19831126
yeah but why number bigger?

[Anonymous No.19831290]

yeah buy I could buy the same amount of meatballs in 1990 as I can today
black btw

[Anonymous No.19831305]

>>19831268
>What were the benefits to leaded vs ethanol?
Less grift from politicians. They actually had real jobs and businesses to attend to so they weren't preoccupied with health bullshit they wanted the economy to grow. Lobbyists basically paid them to change it and use subsidies (free tax payer money) for the 'transition' and here we are, still paying for it. It's like the Golden Gate bridge in SF, they told them that it would cost a quarter to cross for the first five years or some shit, and it would be paid for. Guess how much it costs to cross it today?

[Anonymous No.19831318]

>>19829897
I gotta treat in my pants for you. Something for you to smoke

[Anonymous No.19831395]

>>19831278
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

[Anonymous No.19831397]

>>19831318
Sorry I'm more of a cigar than cigarette guy

[Anonymous No.19831404]

>>19831290
where you geitin ya meatballs, nephew?

[Anonymous No.19831411]

>start doing much better financially around 2020,almost a 150% increase of my income+no more debts
>covid+inflation hit
>It feels I'm only doing marginally better
I'm not bad with money so I'm never struggling but man it feels like I should be able to put more money in savings

[Anonymous No.19831419]

>>19831411
I absolutely guarantee prices have not gone up almost 150%

[Anonymous No.19831422]

>>19831419
eh, I meant a 50% increase. My bad I am drunk

[Anonymous No.19831429]

>>19831411
>money
>in savings
anon every dollar you don't spend is a dollar that is losing value. We're entering Weimerica.

[Anonymous No.19831438]

>>19826574
>you want to believe that the government is malicious
you're either retarded or naive

[Anonymous No.19831442]

>>19831429
Yeah I do know that but I'm in euroland and loan rates have increased dramatically so it's a very bad time to buy so I'm just saving for a deposit. Right now the only thing I could buy with a mortgage would be a studio which I would be paying for the next 25 years

[Anonymous No.19831461]

>>19825823
when i worked at a restaurant in college in fricking 2016 i was paid $8 an hour, the same job now pays $20. wages have risen colossally in the last few years, far more so than prices.

the reason is mainly that zoomers dont want to do bitch work. all my millennial loser cousins are now living high on the hog, and one is even getting paid $25/hr at taco bell to be high on the job kek.

[Anonymous No.19831481]

>>19831442
kek i got a $40k car loan when interest rates bottomed out during covid. i got a fucking 0.9% interest rate because of that plus having good credit, doesnt that make your eyes water?

a loan for the same amount these days would come with close to double the monthly payment i owe now. that shit was once in a lifetime, wish i took out more loans. 0.9% interest was legit free money, especially with the inflation that came after. i could sell the car now and literally be up money, including what ive paid for upkeep & tires while ive had it.

[Anonymous No.19831495]

>>19831481
Nah I'm happy for you mate. I've had a friend that pretty much did the same except it was some weird deal he had with the university he worked for and he just invested it in stocks and now he is raking money with the interests.
What car is it? Bet it must be a pleasure to drive it

[Anonymous No.19831526]

>>19831429
>every dollar you don't spend is a dollar that is losing value
Are you trying to pretend inflation was invented three years ago?

[Anonymous No.19831535]

>>19831526
It had been heavily suppressed for years before exploding recently. You're just fiscally uneducated.

[Anonymous No.19831553]

>>19831179
All that cheap foreign labour we flooded our countries with to push our low income countrymen out of those jobs are not going to be happy to get pushed out of all those below minimum jobs.

[Anonymous No.19831558]

>>19825466
Cost is an illusion, it's earning power that went stagnant. The BS line that inflation is constant is just a show to get you more into systematic slavery.
Shit, look at anti-boomer memes. It's because there's the grain of truth that they did have enough to get a house and support a family by working at the factory down the street. So the misdirection is hating him out of sour grapes instead of the actual money handlers.

[Anonymous No.19831566]

>>19831535
Again, are you trying to pretend dollars have only recently been "losing value"?
Here's a little graph for you, look, inflation

[Anonymous No.19831595]

>>19826366
>>19826790
>>19829228
C'mon guys...there's this thing...Called the Intarrweebs??
https://youtu.be/e7dfCs0z5Eg

[Anonymous No.19831676]

>>19831566
what is this, a graph for liberal ants?

[Anonymous No.19831683]

>>19825821
Ok say that to people with families you only think that way because you are a negative single loser

[Anonymous No.19831686]

>>19831595
i miss when this country was white.

[Anonymous No.19831710]

>>19831686
stop noticing things!

[Anonymous No.19831722]

>>19831179
Wdyt of miso robotics

[Anonymous No.19831724]

>>19831278
Exploitative left wing economics.

[Anonymous No.19832090]

>>19825466
It's only certain things that have noticably outpaced the value of a dollar since I left my parents house in 2009 and a lot of them only became bullshit expensive in the last few years. I haven't bought soda, potato chips, or frozen garbage like mozzarella sticks in over a year because of how exorbitant the prices have gotten. Fresh food seems a lot more stable except for a handful of things like flank steak, oxtail, and eggs. The only thing that is cheaper now than it was back then is booze, the supermarkets where I live would run a weekly special on a 30 rack of one brand of second-tier beer like Labatt/Rolling Rock/Busch for $16.49-$19.99 but now they're all always "on sale" for $18.49-$19.99.
The big difference between then and now is the quality of meat. Woody chicken was something I didn't know existed until recently and you could buy chicken breasts in packs of four, they were already unnaturally large back then but they weren't so freakishly oversized that they were sold in packs of two because each one is almost two pounds and requires butterflying and a thorough pounding to not be a dry and chewy hunk of shit by the time it's cooked. It's either pay three times as much to buy the Gayboi Farms "organic" "free range" Select stuff or drive an extra 15+ minutes to the ethnic markets to get meat that's only marginally better and also more expensive.

[Anonymous No.19832169]

>>19831722
>checked
NTA, but I can only think of the Bradbury story "There will come soft rains"
https://www.chino.k12.ca.us/cms/lib/CA01902308/Centricity/Domain/4327/Soft%20Rains%20Bradbury%20Text.pdf
This is a clean as I could make the URL

[Anonymous No.19832181]

>>19831268
It's not that there were benefits really, it's just that lead was the first real solution for engine knock that was discovered, and at first we didn't really know there was an issue with using it. Later once the effects of it were known it stuck around for a while because of course companies that profited from it and didn't want to lose money lobbied to keep it for a long time. Now we use ethanol and boomers have measurably lower IQ than they would have if we'd switched sooner, the end.

This is on-topic because corn, don't @ me.

[Anonymous No.19832188]

>>19831268
the lead in the gas acts as a sort of cushion for the valve seats in the engine's cylinder head. Old cars had softer seats that needed lead otherwise they would crack or overheat or whatever. newer cars in the early 70s forward all had hardened valve seats to deal with unleaded fuel

[Anonymous No.19832198]

>>19832181
@@@@@@@@@@
you're absolutely right though.

[Anonymous No.19832985]

>>19832188
This is entirely incorrect and you're retarded

[Anonymous No.19833046]

>>19825823
You can get a 12 bottle pack of yuengling for $11

[Anonymous No.19833123]

>>19827811
Come to europe yank then you'll know pain

[Anonymous No.19833574]

>>19826057
>containers
Found your problem. If you're shopping properly the majority of your food should be priced by weight.

[Anonymous No.19833818]

>>19825813
In the 90s my mom and dad used to get in fights because she was spending about $400 a month on groceries for a family of 3 and he thought she was overspending. And she probably was cause we ate good, she would shop every 2 weeks and fill the cart to the top, maybe even start a second cart. Plus there were like 4 pets, two large dogs and two cats.
Gas was like 45 cents a liter then as well.

[Anonymous No.19833912]

>>19833818
That's outrageous for groceries in the 90s. You could go to Costco and fill a cart up with shit and it would be like $150 and that was considered a lot.
Meanwhile, they've barely raised the price for their food court offerings during the same time frame, so I'm guessing that's what you're paying the 'membership' for to shop there.

[Anonymous No.19834236]

>>19825466
Lol, 20 or 30 years ago? Shit was legit 30-50% cheaper 2 or 3 years ago. This isnt some generational thing, its literally observable by anyone paying attention.
Though ya, in the 90's I remember my family(we lived in a small town) driving to the nearby city once a month, to go to Costco. The groceries for the next month would be about $150, for a family of 5 with 2 dogs and a cat. We'd also get half a cow from a local farm, which would account for maybe 1/3rd of the protein we'd eat every half year... Factor in inflation, and thats about $250 today.
I, as a single person, spend more than $120 on groceries a month and i'm eating SHIT. Like everything i buy is on sale or discounted or just generally low-grade garbage. Very few processed things... basically the closest thing to a ready-made meal i'll eat is a can of beans in tomato sauce(which i'll add rice to).
To be honest, i'm surprised there has not been some kind of uprising... Even before all these massive hikes in prices(last 2-ish years) explained from inflation it was ridiculous, but today its just edging on being impossible to survive.

[Anonymous No.19834289]

>>19831595
look at all the beautiful christmas decorations do they even do that anymore (i get my groceries delivered)

[Anonymous No.19834297]

>>19832090
>Labatt/Rolling Rock/Busch
Hmmm I wonder why those brands need to go on sale permanently now....

[Anonymous No.19834317]

>>19834236
>its literally observable by anyone paying attention.
No attention was required. Whole swarths of people are just in full on denial over it due to political sunken cost.

[Anonymous No.19834318]

>>19834236
The supermarkets did the same thing that the banks did post 2008, they all consolidated in everything but name and basically can price control multiple franchises.
Grew up in a similar situation, and facing the same situation you are. I only buy beef cuts if it's on sale (expired). I basically survive on sandwiches. It sucks.

[Anonymous No.19834376]

>>19827811
When I first started driving putting a dollar of gas in from some change around the car was something you could do and it wasn't that weird and I'm only 35

[Anonymous No.19834449]

>>19834236
and that's not even getting into the astronomical costs of housing
or abysmal wages

[Anonymous No.19834471]

>>19834318
I'm in Canada, where its even worse. The grocery chains are literally getting caught every few months doing super sketchy shit with bread:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_price-fixing_in_Canada
milk:
>https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/first-reading-why-milk-of-all-things-is-canadas-most-terrifyingly-powerful-lobby
and just general fuckery with the prices of everything food related:
>https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/loblaw-reports-529m-q4-profit-revenue-up-nearly-10-1.1887317
...And there has been minimal blow back. They're literally caught red-handed ripping people off in the order of thousands of dollars per person per year, and somehow the CEO's and industry leaders are not getting made to feel insanely uncomfortable.
Truly is a great example of complacent and lazy people being slowly boiled in a pan(like the frog metaphor) while they watch their shrinking pay cheques get siphoned away at a faster rate by greedy fuckers.
But its ok, cause now we're expecting 400, 000 new immigrants per year, the overwhelming majority are totally at odds with our culture and wont contribute to the economy and will leech off the social programs that probably should be more focused on supporting the ACTUAL canadian citizens... But then someone might say we're a racist nation for not taking in illiterate syrians or haitians who want to beat women and murder gays and demand we adhere to islamic or fundamentalist values.

I'm so demoralized that at this point i dont even care... Whatever, use what little wealth I and my family have contributed to this nation to invite in a bunch of child molesting retards who'll beat up my theoretical(cause i cant afford, nor want to being any into this shit-hole of a world) children.

[Anonymous No.19834509]

>>19834471 Here
Oh, i forgot to mention how its similar to america. Like down there, our grocery chains are also combining. 20 years ago there were like 6 or 7 big options. Safeway, Sobeys, IGA, No Frills, Price Choppers, Loblaws, Superstore.
Today its just 2... Those same brands still exist mind you, but they're ALL owned by 2 companies. Sobeys owns price choppers, safeway and IGA. Loblaws owns Superstore and no Frills. Ironically, they also own "Your Independent Grocer"... which seems like a fucking joke. You'd think they'd atleast have the decency to rebrand it since its not fucking independent at all...
They even own the biggest asian super market (T&T)... Most countries asian markets are owned and operated independent, specifically because the domestic grocery brands do a shit-job serving them... Not in Canada, where even that shit gets monopolized.
Its such a fucking scam, and if canadians had a spine they would be outraged. But when we allowed the entire telco industry to be split up between 3 companies, is it any wonder other sectors of the market saw there was zero push-back on that and copied it? Its why not only do we have the most expensive/over priced cable/internet/cellphone plans, but also the most expensive bread and milk.

[Anonymous No.19834513]

>>19825466
it was MUCH cheaper just 3-4 years ago, what the fuck are you on about?
20-30 years ago might as well be another planet

[Anonymous No.19834538]

>>19834509
>Its why not only do we have the most expensive/over priced cable/internet/cellphone plans, but also the most expensive bread and milk.
Meanwhile I can rent a home in Vietnam 20-30 minutes from the city, total cost of living would only be $500 or so a month. Really thinking about going back. I did it 10 years ago and lived great, but got bored after a couple of years. I have a remote job now, so I could do it, but I'd be up all damn night in meetings and shit.

[Anonymous No.19834612]

>>19834538
Being nocturnal and living a SUPER relaxed life would be awesome. And vietnam actually seems like a nice place. I know a bunch of burn-out trust fun guys who moved to thailand. $1000 a month lets them live like fucking kings, doing anything they want. Only downside is they lose a bunch of their "benefits" to canadian support since they're there for more than 6 months of the year.

[Anonymous No.19834633]

Remember when the "nazi schitzos" were telling you that the government was bankrupting our nation's whilst handing billions of dollars to their corporate masters?
Yeh, YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE YOU DEADWEIGHT FUCKING SCUM. ENJOY WATCHING YOU CHILDREN STARVE YOU FUCKING SPINELESS WORMS.

[Anonymous No.19834646]

>>19834612
oh no they don't get $40 in "benefits" at the cost of $30,000 in taxes

[Anonymous No.19834654]

>>19834646
Ehh... If you're making less than 100k, id argue(atleast pre-all this insanity.. so like 2005-ish) that its worth it. 2023 though? ya... not really worth it.

[Anonymous No.19834668]

>>19826574
You haven't been here. Fed min is 7.25. Lotta jobs that pay 8 and 9 here in the south.

[Anonymous No.19834774]

>>19834612
>Being nocturnal and living a SUPER relaxed life would be awesome
Nah, it sucks ass. I've worked on shifts before and you think it would be awesome until you do it for a while. The first few weeks are fun, but it gets old fast. There isn't shit open, so you're basically shitposting between meetings, although with youtube.tv now it might not be that bad now that I think about it. I got bored as fuck with nothing to watch playing old vidya. No work was a 'fun' thing at first too, but it was super boring after a while. I'll reconsider this.

[Anonymous No.19834863]

>>19826124
Exception that proves the rule largely do to economoc arbitrage of producing goods in the third world. The US manufactured more of those goods back in the 80s and 90s va now. Food is harder to economically arbitrage due to global agriculturally productive land is capped out, population growth and, kost importantly, energy costs.

[Anonymous No.19834873]

>>19825466

[Anonymous No.19834875]

>>19832090
The other thing to factor is shrinkflashion. The price doesnt change but the amiunt you get decreases. I noticed this when buying my favorite ice cream after a long hiatus. I could phyiscally tell the container was smaller wjen grabbing it.

[Anonymous No.19834878]

>>19834873
>anon discovers the concept of inflation

[Anonymous No.19834879]

>>19834875
thats the thing though, they double dip
they reduce the size and up the price

[Anonymous No.19834895]

>>19834879
Yep.
Stick of chewing gum was 3c growing up.
Think of the market factors to make, sell, market, bubble gum? I don't recall a commercial for gum. How much has their production costs increased? How does it justify current prices? Nobody buys gum anymore.

[Anonymous No.19834909]

>>19834895
Yeah and the yearly salary was $3,000

[Anonymous No.19834916]

>>19834909
You mean joint income household per month?

[Anonymous No.19834919]

>>19825823
Bud light is still $25 where I live. I don't drink Bud light but I figure that's a pretty good baseline.

[Anonymous No.19834971]

>>19834916
In what year was the average income $36K and gum cost 3 cents lol

[Anonymous No.19834975]

>>19834971
1988

[Anonymous No.19834993]

>>19834975
Gum was 5 cents a stick in 1987 and the household income was $30k

[Anonymous No.19834995]

>>19834878
>economic illiterate thinks the past decade has been normal

[Anonymous No.19835040]

>>19834993
I was guessing based on what I remembered. Wasn't too long ago there were dollar menus. For years. Then 2/5 and now 2/7 or whatever.

[Anonymous No.19835104]

>>19825466
I'm 35. I used to be able to afford fresh broccoli to eat almost every day before the pandemic. Now I cannot.

[Anonymous No.19835131]

>>19834995
What is "normal"?
>>19831566

[Anonymous No.19835133]

>>19827153
Nigga what? I buy a sixer of high abv ipas every weekend and i've never paid more than $13 for one

[Anonymous No.19835138]

>>19835133
You're saying people are overstating food prices on /ck/?

[Anonymous No.19835489]

>>19825940
yeah beer was 24 for 24.

[Anonymous No.19835724]

>>19834875
>The price doesnt change but the amiunt you get decreases.
Where I live we get shrinkflation and increased cost it's win/win for corporations

[Anonymous No.19835803]

>>19825466
In the early 90’s minimum wage was $4.25 but a dinky apartment was around $200 a month in my hometown. Just doing basic math not accounting for taxes extracted and going on gross that took 48 hours of work to make rent. (It took a few more hours due to taxes, but you get the idea.) Today minimum wage is $7.25 and that same dinky apartment is now $1,100 a month. Using the same math dividing rent by gross minimum wage it now takes 152 hours or work to cover basic rent (but due to taxes takes more than that). Going back in time for amount of hours worked minimum wage gross to pay for an apartment 48) and applying that to the $1,100 apartment today, minimum wage should be $23 an hour. Federal minimum wage has not increased since July of 2009. It should be renamed to Federal Slave Wage.

Brainlets will argue “but it’s not supposed to be a livable wage” but it used to be. Brainlets also fail to grasp that minimum wage is a thumb on the scale that depresses other wages. (i.e., “We’ll start you off at $10 an hour. That’s MUCH better than what you make at minimum wage!”)

This is why 50% of American workers cannot afford a one-bedroom apartment and will never own a home to raise a family in. These people are living with roommates or their parents.

[Anonymous No.19835823]

>>19835803
>Today minimum wage is $7.25 and that same dinky apartment is now $1,100 a month.
We don't know based on this information whether it's a nicer or worse neighbourhood than in the 90s

[Anonymous No.19835829]

>>19835803
>This is why 50% of American workers cannot afford a one-bedroom apartment
You forgot to include "without being classified as rent-burdened, which means spending more than 30% of their income on rent"

[Anonymous No.19835834]

>>19835823
It’s the same apartment and the neighborhood is no longer very safe, as all of the complexes accept HUD. To afford the same apartment lifestyle a $4.25 minimum wage used to support in my hometown you’d be looking at a $1600 apartment today. Which when divided by 48 (gross pay hours required to make rent in the early 90’s) minimum wage would need to be $$34. We are in a really bad place right now with stagnating wages and raging inflation. I read an article recently that claims a middle class family has had their buying power for a home cut in half since 2022.

[Anonymous No.19835838]

>>19835834
Minimum wage has definitely stagnated for over a decade

[Anonymous No.19835867]

>>19835838
It’s really bad. It hasn’t increased since 2009. If minimum wage had been raised over time to compensate for cost of living other wages would have risen as well. It’s a real problem. If it were raised to something keeping with times to around $24 an hour or so it would plunge our workforce into chaos. Used to be a secretary could afford to save for a modest home. Today they’re relegated to eternal apartment living if their income isn’t supplementary to her husband’s. There was never anything wrong with being a career secretary or department store worker or waitress until recently. Now these people are viewed as “losers” for not “getting a real job” or greedy for wanting a fair wage. Not everybody was born to be a surgeon and we need these workers. It’s just sad.

[Anonymous No.19836521]

Anyone else feel coupons are kind of shit nowadays too?

Pre-Rona, it was like
>50c off a box of crackers, 1 box is $2.50

Now, it's more like
>75c off 2 boxes of crackers, 1 box is $3.99

Or I go there and the staff tells you you can't use more than 1 coupon for a product, they give you shit over manufacturer's coupons (that you get for complaining because quality has dropped so much), and because grocers are skeleton crews, if you have to go to the customer service desk, you wait like 20 minutes for some fat old lady to show up and tell you you're not gonna get your 50 cents for a mislabeled product.

[Anonymous No.19836533]

>>19825935
Correct. Have fun trying to get a raise, every company that can is automating jobs away at record speed atm.

[Anonymous No.19837172]

>>19833912
bruh you can eat at the costco food court for free

most locations its not even behind the card checkers, but even if it is, you can just ask nicely and they'll let you run in for a tasty hot dog.

[Anonymous No.19837212]

>>19834318
this is why you shop at asian grocery stores like 99 ranch and mitsua - produce & meat is excellent quality and often cheaper than walmart even. i see more & more white people at these places because theyre literally just better. they mostly have all the normal american grocery store stuff too - only thing they lack is a deli - but they also have several restaurants inside that are very very good value, like $4 for a chow mein takeout dish, and if you go at end of day, the restaurants will set out unsold dishes markes down suuuper low. we're talking mansized korean gimbap tray for five bucks, mansized dish of sesame chicken for four bucks, at least at the 99 ranch near me.

plus local hispanic, asian, indian smalltime grocery stores almost always have better prices than grocery chains - this is because they are a family business that can pay family employees less than minwage - plus they also have cheap illegal immigrant labor - PLUS they often have family connections with produce farms and suppliers from the home country so they can cut out the middleman.

theres a filipino grocery store near me that always has 3 guys in the back unpacking, stripping and stacking fresh produce straight off the truck, it doesnt get more direct unless its a literal farmstand. when i get a whole basket of produce at this place - all good stuff, pineapples, avocados, mangos, unusual peppers, spinach, arugula, basil & other herbs, etc - its only like $15-20 for a whole bunch of stuff. cheapest eggs i've seen anywhere also.

anyway point is if youre still shopping at normal american grocery chains, youre a SUCKA with no right to complain. and if thats all there is near you, move somewhere nicer or start gardening.

[Anonymous No.19837219]

>>19834668
thats cause only the worst and dumbest people still live there

[Anonymous No.19837341]

I remember in 2008 I could buy a golden menu in Paris (big Mac + 4 nuggets + tall menu) for 7€.
For 6€ you could have a regular menu, it's now twice more expansive almost.

[Anonymous No.19837628]

Hey fellow poorfags, start thinking about thes Beans
The pork is a lie as always but they were the very cheapest beans available from Walmart when I bought them some months ago, and I was avoiding them thinking they'd be gross but just popped open a can to go with my baked potato over my lunch break, and they're actually amazing. Like I thought it's just white beans and tomato paste, but they added enough sugar to make them sort of like baked beans but not enough to be syrupy-sweet. It's like a midpoint between the syrupy baked beans and normal canned beans where it still tastes good but you get as many calories from the protein of the beans as the sugar of the sauce, for a benchmark.
They're at least a 7/10 where I was expecting 3/10 because it's the cheapest least wanted Walmart brand.
Way better for you than eating normal baked beans.
Enjoy anons and keep it beanin'

[Anonymous No.19838428]

>>19836521
Yes. And I don’t know if it’s just my area or everywhere, but all of my local grocery stores used disrupted supply lines as an excuse to no longer offer rain checks. 2 years later and they all still won’t. Had some nasty little cunt laugh at me when I asked for one last week.

[Anonymous No.19838963]

>>19837212
>produce & meat is excellent quality
Stopped reading here. every time I have gone into any ethnic grocery the meat and produce is rotten.

[Anonymous No.19839006]

>>19827811
>35 years isn't that long
I really agree with this, i hate how most people equate time for the world itself to change and such and how long say 10 years is for one person to experience

[Anonymous No.19839626]

>>19836533
This is true. I'm unironically automating away 3 fulltime jobs next week.

[Anonymous No.19839632]

>>19837628
Had franks and beans last night.
You don't have to be poor to enjoy that.
As soon as you guy is as a "complete meal" instead of buying the beans and bangers separately the quality goes down. Get individual ingredients and make it yourself. It's not exactly hard work.

[Anonymous No.19839636]

>>19825466
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.19840212]

>>19838963
you havent been to a 99 ranch or h-mart

by "ethnic grocery" i assume you mean dirty ass halal deli or bodega - thats not what i mean at all. i mean locally owned produce shops & large ethnic chains.

you need to move to a real place

[Anonymous No.19840235]

lets play the grocery games

over/under on my basket from yesterday? (east coast usa)

[Anonymous No.19840237]

>>19825466
shit is so expensive rn I pretty much exclusively shoplift

[Anonymous No.19840239]

>>19840235
everything is visible btw, but also theres two white onions and a 5-pack of garlic in the lower right, and also thats 1.5 pounds of jalapenos (only size they sell)

[Anonymous No.19840295]

Everything is relative. Things seemed cheaper 30 years ago, but people didn't act any different than they did 5 or 6 years ago, even though we know that inflation has steadily outpaced wages. The only thing that's really changed in my lifetime was Trump crashing the economy and everything shooting up 150% in just a year or so. In 1992 you'd have to be really, really poor to have to debate whether or not you can afford a bag of chips, or going out to eat at a restaurant once a week. Today that's just kind of how it is for most people.

[Anonymous No.19840310]

>>19840235
$30

[Anonymous No.19840378]

>>19840310
bzzzt you are *over* it was $25 and actually i lied, theres in fact 2 boxes of those generic krispies

most expensive thing was the sesame chips, but they will go a long way in trail mix

the best deals were $1.50 ea for big rice krispies and $3 for a dozen organic cage free eggs

the NatuChips were excellent - plantain chips are usually a bit thick, stiff and greasy, but these were thin, crispy and light. theyre apparently a frito-lay joint, so this is just what americanized plantain chips are like i guess.

[Anonymous No.19840420]

>>19840237
How do you do that shit? I got pulled aside because I walked past a Walmart greeter and I've paid for everything I ever got. I'm too poor to make this shit work anymore, I make significantly less than minimum wage and foodstamps cover maybe one week of food

[Anonymous No.19840424]

>>19829570
>these retards are the people you share a board with
lol

[Anonymous No.19840434]

I recently got access to supermarket surplus store - it's meant to be only for people who working in food manufacturing, but they sometimes let people apply for guest passes.
Stock can be hit and miss, but on a good day it's great. Fresh meat at half the price of the same supermaket it is branded to etc.
I have plenty of money but I'm a miser so getting a deal is satisfying.

[Anonymous No.19840442]

>>19826574
I live in Pennsylvania, minimum wage is $7.25 here. Fuck off kike.

[Anonymous No.19840443]

>>19840420
You tell them to fuck off.
Anyone stopping you from leaving is on the hook for kidnapping.

[Anonymous No.19840461]

>>19825466
They were about 2/3 the cost of what they are now about 4 years ago.
Let's go Brandon!

[Anonymous No.19840507]

>>19840442
i just moved out of pennsylvania

philly zone has east coast wages, like $15 for walmart stockers

pittsburgh area is a little lower, but mcdonalds workers still make at least $13-14 to start

and if you live in the middle of PA you have nobody to blame but yourself for living there. just go work for the amish and get paid in pies or whatever.

[Anonymous No.19840522]

>>19840420
once i saw 3 tiny hispanic women straight up push a full cart of groceries right out of the walmart, past the greeters and guards, they didnt even look around first lol

but at other walmarts they always have a policeman - so idk, scope the location first, maybe test your luck first with some cheap stuff that you can just say you forgot to pay for

[Anonymous No.19840547]

>>19840378
No tax?

[Anonymous No.19841937]

>>19840547
tax on groceries? what kind of bullshit state do you live in lol??

[Anonymous No.19842595]

>>19841937
It's sales tax. Lot of states have it. I don't have income tax, so there's that. Just get taxed on the stuff I like, not everything.

[Anonymous No.19842665]

>>19842595
i know what sales tax is. civilized states have sales tax exemptions for food. some even have exemptions for clothing.

[Anonymous No.19842737]

>>19825466
Oh the days of grousing that I went over budget by spending 45 dollars instead of 40.

[Anonymous No.19842740]

>>19825466
mcdonalds used to have a 2 egg mcmuffins for 2 dollars

now its 2 for 12 dollars in Los Angeles

[Anonymous No.19842810]

>>19840295
>Trump crashing the economy

Positively wrong there anon. The covid crash was due to lockdowns which were implemented by the governors at the state level. There was never a national lockdown.

Lets also not forget when the man wanted to syop flights from Chyna in January but the usual suspects cried racissss