/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>19759942
try some islay single-malt scotch

>>19759953
Rec me one for ~$50.

>>19759966
laphroaig 10 year is a good start, price is going to vary wildly depending on what state you're in because of taxes and stuff but it's on the cheaper end.

>>19759990
>>19759953
tastes like shit

>>19759990
It's around $70 where I live. I'm hesitant to spend that much on something I might hate but that's not too far off the price range I gave.
>>19759994
As long as it doesn't taste like tequila I might be able to like it.

>>19759994
typical

>>19759942
>and makes me feel ill after drinking it
Seriously I drank this several hours ago and still don't feel right. Had two sandwiches and a beer to try to wash it away. Tequila did me the same way. Don't know what it is, something floral about the taste, I don't know.

>>19759942
cheap supermarket whiskey like this is undrinkable. just get some cola and mix it to make it palatable.
avoid 40% whiskey in general it's never worth it, not even the good ones. it starts to get interesting at 43%.

try talisker 10 years

>>19760029
I did notice the low proof of the Jameson. I don't drink any bourbon under 90 proof.

>>19759942
jameson is the jack daniels of irish whiskey. tullamore is probably the best tasting one at an equivalent price. highly recommend dead rabbit if you can spend a bit more.

try not being an alcoholic for a second. you're being a burden on the healthcare system and democracy at large.

>>19759942
Old Crow :)

>>19760062
I drink in moderation like a responsible citizen.

>>19760005
It tastes like iodine

>>19759942
I drink mostly bourbon and never liked Jameson either. I tried some Readbreast 15 and thought it was fantastic so I got a bottle and still think its great. I might try the 12 year since its a bit cheaper but I'm very happy with the 15.

>>19760062
I really am trying. I managed to quit for a couple months but now I'm drinking to fall asleep again.

>>19760005
>I'm hesitant to spend that much on something I might hate
That's why you go to a decent bar and try a few different whiskies to see what you like. Better than sinking the same amount on a single bottle you might hate.

>>19760217
i don't go to where other people are

>>19760217
I live in a rural area and the only way I can go to a bar is to drive, so it's not happening.

>>19759942
Bullshit. Jameson's a decent, for what it is - a blended whiskey. It's an Everyday whiskey. Take a look at the prices of a good single-malt and you'll know what I mean.

>>19759942
Tequila's good though whiteboy

>>19760237
based

>>19760521
It's awful. I can get cheap bourbon, e.g. EW BiB, that actually tastes good and doesn't make me want to vomit, for less money.
>>19760545
Tequila, like the Jameson, gave me an initial reaction that it had an interesting taste that I might like but then it made me feel ill and the thought of drinking more of it makes me feel ill.

>>19759942
I find it harsh as fuck.

>>19759942
>Is it worth trying other Irish whiskies
Yes, Redbreast 12.
>or Scotch
Yes, there's an incredible variety of flavor profiles to be found in Scotch. I'd recommend Glendronach 12 for a super bottle of something reasonably-priced.

>>19759942
Jameson is great.

>>19760545
>>19760627
Maybe Irish people and Mexicans have similar bad taste

>>19760209
Alcohol is actually a proven sleep disruptor.

>>19760653
Sure you sleep badly but it's a strong central nervous system depressant so lots of people drink just to be able to fall asleep if they suffer from insomnia or high stress levels

Jamesons okay, I might have a soft spot for it from watching it being chugged on True Detective and The Wire tho. It's a bit oily and thick though, not a fan of that.

Pic related is pretty epic though

>>19760005
An actual cheap islay scotch is a total wine branded scarabus it’s like 38/45 bucks for regular or cask strength. Basically impossible to get cheaper peated scotch. I like laphroag but it’s also $70 where I am.

You might have port charlotte 10 at $60 which is fantastic. I would try a pour though peated scotch is a no go for some people.

jameson is just irish swill whiskey, much like JD is yank swill whiskey

>>19759990
Jfc, don't start on a Laphroig, that is about as one-dimensional as scotch comes. Start with a 10yo Glenmorangie. If you don't like it, it's because you have the palate of a fat child.

>>19760598
This is really strange, I hate tequila too but I like jameson. It's not the finest whiskey you can get but it's basically ok, just tastes like vanilla more than anything. I wonder if there's not some minor flavoring inclusion that you're literally allergic to. No idea what jamey would have that is also in tequila but not in other whiskeys though.

Went to a shitty liquor store near me to buy a bottle of Laphroaig, since it was the closest one that had it from checking online (price was also a bit cheaper). All the Scotch had been there a while and when I found the Laphroaig I had to blow a good bit of dust off of it. Did I goof or is this okay?

>>19762212
I want one dimension, and that dimension should be Smoke. I want to feel like I'm about to turn into an oak tree struck by lightning after one glass. What scotch do I need?

>>19759942
>whiskey thread
What's a good whiskey to try out for the first time? Closest thing I've had is a bourbon, and it tasted too grainy for my liking.

>>19760062
>Go shopping for groceries this morning
>There's a liquor store across from the grocery store
>People are literally lined up waiting for it to open
Alcoholics are a different breed.

>>19762452
>>People are literally lined up waiting for it to open
Drive by and yell at them

>>19762452
Bruichladdich the classic laddie is a good intro whisky in my opinion because it's unpeated and not too crazy, plus it's pretty easy to find. Another personal favorite that I return to is the Bunnahabhain 12, very tasty and also not too expensive. Stay away from the super peated stuff like Ardbeg unless you know that's what you like.

>>19762564
Remember not to buy anything you can't pronounce

>>19762280
Ardbeg 10yo

>>19762452
Go for the best-sellers, Glenmorangie or Glenfiddich 10 year olds.

>>19759942
I'm the other way around. I'm a bourbonfag and Jameson tastes almost watery to me, like it's light on flavor and it doesn't burn at all

>>19762601
Yeah that's the Irish for you. Too smooth by half.

>>19762564
>>19762589
Are these even sold in burgerland?

>>19762614
Sure they are, they're the most popular bottlings in the world.

>>19762614
I can get all of them in my random small town in the south so I imagine you can get them wherever you are.

>>19762624
>>19762628
Guess I haven't been looking too deep into my whiskeys, because they are in fact stocked at my local stores. Guess I'll check if any bars have them available before I buy a bottle.

For me it's Bushmills

>>19759942
Anon you might be retarded, Jameson is about the most inoffensive alcohol in existence

>>19762589
Don't do this. These have no flavor.

>>19762267
dusty = must(y)

>>19763119
I did some research earlier and read that an unopened bottle should be okay as long as it isn't exposed to lots of sunlight or extreme temperature changes. I know it wasn't near sunlight at least. I'll be trying it in the morning when I get back from work so we'll see.

>>19763180
"must" as in "a must"

hard to find actual dustys these days it seems. oldest dusty I've found so far was a bottle of McCarthy's bottled in Feb. 2013 that I bought in Jan. 2021.

make sure to tip the bottle and shake it hard once or twice to help the cork unsettle before removing it.

I also suggest being very gentle when uncorking because theres always the possibility of it degrading or rotting but especially when it's been sitting. I always twist more than pull when uncorking whether it's been opened or not because it's less stressful on the cork itself and will keep it as intake as possible unless theres a defect with the bottle.

if you notice once you uncork it that theres bits of cork around the inside of the neck then wipe it out and let the cork sit out and dry for an hour or two before putting it back in. also it doesn't hurt to let the bottle breathe a bit, especially with heavily peated stuff.

>>19763873
Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I read it about 15 minutes after I opened the bottle. I didn't tip or shake the bottle but I was gentle when uncorking it and I didn't notice any cork residue on the bottle or any visible degradation of the cork.

Also I found the bottling date, which was September 2011 (!)

My reaction to the taste so far is pic related. It is definitely not bad or disgusting or anything like that, but unlike anything else I've drank before and I need to process it. If I end up liking it the same store had two other bottles of similar age.

>>19764405
Bottling date

>>19764405
>>19764425
Nice. is it just the 10 year old?

For me the sure way of knowing I was a Laphroaig > Ardbeg type was putting them side by side.

I'd say if you end up liking it to keep one and try to sell the other to a whisky club. As long as you have the receipt to prove the price you paid they shouldn't have a problem giving you at least double the cost. Problem there being they will probably clean out the spot of any other finds like that.

>>19764467
Yeah it's the Laphroaig 10. Thanks for the help, anon. I think I may need a few glasses to really figure this one out. I was expecting it to taste unique but this still defied what I was expecting.

Somewhat funny story: I tried two liquor stores actually. The first one had no way to check stock online but it was a nicer store so I figured they might have it. I didn't see it and had to ask the clerk (a woman). She didn't know what it was and asked me to spell it for her so she could look it up. She asked another (female) clerk in the back and I heard her say "I guess that's how it's pronounced???" They told me they had it in the store once in 2016 and would mark it down to get more.

>>19764515
Anyway, I found that situation at the store to be funny because I had specifically looked up how to pronounce it so that I wouldn't look stupid if I had to ask for it, but they were the ones who didn't know what it was or how to pronounce it, lol.

>>19764515
>>19764520
Always fun having to do the jobs of the employees and funny how it's usually always a female problem... Hmmph!

I also enjoy torturing wagies with Anglicized Gaelic so it's a plus until the point that they refuse to try because it's too complicated. In which case I like to have a manager oversee the poor performance of their underlings.

Trying a glass of bourbon after the Laphroaig and the bourbon tastes bad in comparison

>>19764739
https://youtu.be/NRXKkUhe_B0?si=iuEPC6KC45pEJC0x

>>19763058
Kek, you have no fucking clue.

>>19763058
this

Jameson use to be my go-to for getting shitfaced, until I quit drinking.
I can slam that shit like water and the hangovers aren't terrible.

>>19765878
Tell us more about your life.

>>19760237
stupid incel piece of shit

>>19766016
>You have to go pay extra for drinks for the privilege of socializing with drunk retards
"No"

>>19766016
You can't just say that.

>>19765878
I feel you, I used to do a 750ml bottle of jamey a day. Mostly stolen. Wild that somebody thinks it's singularly intolerable when it's one of the gentlest, I wonder if OP isn't some thirdie who got a 'washed up on the beach' tier bottle exposed to sunlight for months, unsealed, and fuck knows what else.
>>19766083
Drinking alone is legitimately way better than drinking around other people, with few exceptions. The point of drinking is to Let Loose and have a good time, if other people are around you're always checking your behavior and acting in a controlled manner. You gotta wait on the bartender for your drinks, you don't control the music or tv, etc. If by a miracle you're in a social situation where everyone matches your vibe perfectly it's fantastic, but this is exceedingly rare.

>>19760620
Redbreast is the way to go

>>19766092
says who? fuck off, social reject

>>19766083
they're retarded when drunk whereas you're retarded even when sober. What's your excuse, subhuman?

>>19766140
>Wild that somebody thinks it's singularly intolerable when it's one of the gentles
Jamo is pretty gentle but if you want silky smooth and light as a feather, Tullamore Dew is ghe best I've ever found. Seriously, if you put it in the freezer it goes down like water.

>>19760029
At least get some ginger ale to mix your whiskey with. Cola is for mixing with rum.

>>19759942
Seconding Laphroaig 10, shit's good

>>19767632
I did get a bottle:
>>19762267
>>19764405
>>19764425
>>19764739

>>19767660
based, enjoy

>>19760062
>burden on democracy
drink up lads!

>>19767775
literally me a couple (maybe more than a couple) of times
that's why drinking alone is the way, being around other people when drunk makes me act weird
also you don't get mocked when you piss your pants

>>19760062
>burden on a system that doesn't exist anywhere
Fuck you and fuck the oligarchic psychopaths you blindly worship

>>19759942
Jameson lingers. I think it's the oak or the amount of time spent on it. It does kind of remind me of mid-level reposado.

Scotch is smoky, and not in the same way smoked food is. Peat smoked barley can take on tastes and aromas like tire-fire and fatal-car-crash (you know the smell) - which can work if it's a decent scotch or if you know you kind of enjoy it, but I wouldn't dive headfirst into a bottle of Laphroaig, maybe Walker red or black instead.

You might find that you prefer American whiskey.

>>19759942
PROTIP: Most Irish whiskeys are very light and floral/grassy. They do not have nearly the same character as rye or bourbon, which are very strong, spicy, and forward. Irish whiskey is more soft and subtle. That being said, try this one.

Irish whiskey fills its own niche. Bourbons tend to be very woody, brown-sugary, and cinnomony, rye tends to be very spicy and with notes of black pepper, clove, and nutmeg. Scotch on the other hand tends to be very citrusy with vanilla, and either comes smooth or smokey/briney. Irish on the other hand is typically very dry, and it comes off as being creamy or herbal, with sweet notes ranging from apple to honey to a light vanilla.

I will say I generally prefer bourbon, but my favorite Whiskey of all time is Red Breast 12. You WILL love it. Trust me. Only problem is it can be a bit pricey depending on where you buy it.

>>19767858
I only like smokey whiskey if it's briney/oceany. None of that "fire" bullshit. Le Frog is good for that partly, but Talisker 10 is kino in a bottle, same with Lagavulin 16.

why are these retards saying jack daniels is bad? no one seriously thinks that, it's just that because its popularity the price doesn't reflect what it actually is anymore. the most interesting whiskeys are happening at the low to mid range price point

>>19768113
Jack Daniels is a 15$ whiskey being sold for twice that cost.

>>19768029
I'm mainly a rye enjoyer, but I like Powers for when I occasionally go for Irish.

>>19768113
It's not bad, it's just completely unexceptional and overpriced, basically this >>19768114
Like I won't get mad about being given Jack at a party but why would I ever buy it when I can get any number of better whiskeys for the same price or significantly less?

>>19768113
Jack's got this backbeat of "I can't believe it's not butter"... it's not buttery, it's like margarine trying really hard to pretend.
It's a good mixer, but that finish just turns me off.

>>19767858
>Jameson lingers
it's the caramel coloring. theres a lot and changes the overall viscosity therefore improving mouthfeel from thin and dry to heavy and sweet.

>>19767565
if you plan on mixing with anything other than water, dont bother spending more than $25 on a bottle.

>>19768029
a lot of the characteristics you mention come directly from the distillation process, in particular the amount of times distilled. Bourbon/Rye are distilled once and mostly through Coffey stills. This leaves the end product taste cheap to many.

Scotch/Irish are distilled 2 and 3 times(depending on the distillery) and for single malts a copper pot still is used. Which makes the base profile of the distillate much more enveloping and any "ensmoothening" processes from the barrel are multiplied due to more refined product being used from the start as well as longer fermentations, slower distillation, cooler climate and less fresh oak.

>>19768113
theres no reason to give them any leeway nowadays. for me the kicker is when they released the new Bottled in Bond, Triple Mash, etc. they only bottled them in 700ml so even in the very state its produced you can not buy a US STANDARD 750ml bottle. Fuck Brown-Forman.

>>19759942
Fun fact: The heir to Jameson Whiskey bought paid to watch a little girl in Africa get eaten by cannibals.

>>19768259
No, most bourbons are distilled twice; once in a beer still and then second in a copper pot still.

Bourbons taste stronger because they are aged in charred new oak. Lots of Scotches by the way age in used bourbon barrels.

>>19768275
Actually, to be more accurate, someone approached him and offered to perform it "for a bit of cloth". Jameson, skeptical as he was, bemusedly gave him 6 handkerchiefs, after which the mad-lad actually went and did it, and Jameson wrote about it calling it the most disgusting thing he had ever witnessed.

>>19762564
Reminder they changed this bottle design into some gay water bottle looking thing

>>19768467
Needless to say that cramming experience suffered tremendously as a consequence of this decision.

>>19759942
This drink made me punch holes in the wall. Oh but different alcohol doesn't affect you like that uh huh

>>19767858
>maybe Walker red or black instead.
For fuck's sake do not do this.

>>19768070
>but Talisker 10 is kino in a bottle, same with Lagavulin 16.
Oh look, the paid Diageo shill is back.

>>19759942
It's not supposed to taste good it's supposed to help you beat your wife.

>>19769551
>wife
good one

the kirkland irish whiskey is like a creamy kiss and only 20 bucks for a handle

4 days sober. Dubs decides if I go get a bottle.

>>19769536
They are the main choice of people who don't know what they want in a scotch, and people who don't actually like scotch - they're cheap and inoffensive.

>>19769649
Inoffensive is a polite way to describe JWB. A less polite way would be lacking flavor.
Many would consider JWR offensive.

>>19769623
Yes
Rolling

>>19769623
get something better or don't

>>19769623
Don't do it anon - just bear with it. I've gone without for a while now myself. Hoping to keep the streak up as long as I can.

>>19769655
And those people know what they like in a scotch... or they've burned out their tastebuds on turkish tobacco and Oban.

>>19769738
Come on. Low tier JW is trash and will put somebody off of scotch entirely. It's awful and overpriced due to the brand recognition, same as JD or anything else everyone has heard of.

>>19769748
jw black is completely fine desu

>>19769748
They're bar rail price here. I could recommend Teachers - that'll put people off Scotch.

>>19769799
>putting people off scotch
For me, it's Clan Macgregor. Still JW red is a terrible intro to scotch, for the same price plus maybe $5-10 at most you can do much, much better.

>>19768029
I'd like a liquor that's between rye and Irish, as a fan of absinthe and dry gin trying to expand isn't easy

>>19769623
You're gonna die of cirrhosis

>>19769776
It's bland and nearly flavorless. It's terribly boring.
It's for people who care more about "is it easy to drink?" than "does it taste good?"

>>19769829
behold

Anything that says "blended" on the bottle is bad.

>>19771056
Not necessarily. It shouldn't be as expensive as a single-origin single-malt, but the entire point of blending is consistent output if any of the liquors are off their baseline.

I wouldn't be offended if someone offered me a glass of Toki, I wouldn't be offended... just slightly concerned if they called it anything but what it was.

1.75L of famous grouse is $36
i don't care how my scotch tastes i am drinking it to get shitfaced

jamesons good but proper 12 is better

>>19771963
They make alcool/everclear for that

>>19771963
A handle of Dewar's is like $22 at Costco.

>>19771963
>i don't care how my scotch tastes i am drinking it to get shitfaced
Drink vodka, then. It's the favorite of broke college students who want to get shitfaced.

>>19766510
wow i can tell youre a well adjusted sociable chad everyone likes!

>>19771963
grousepill me anons is it actually tasty or is it jet fuel tier?

>>19774448
It's not bad for jet fuel, but it's definitely bottom shelf "Scotch".

>destroys your whiskey thread
*nothing personell kiddo*

>>19774684
Liqueurs are based.

>>19774684
>Destroys your supply
bonne chance avec votre achat

>>19759942

Jameson is okay if you are trying not to go too expensive, but if you are able to afford it, go for something better once you have a little bit of taste for Scotch.

I like Bowmore, Bruichladdich, Caol Ila, Glenfarclas, Glennfiddich, Laphroaig, Lagavulin, Oban, Talisker. Those are all single malt Scotch whiskeys.

If you just want to knock yourself out, Jameson will do, but if you want to learn the ins and outs of whiskey, you should sort of expand your taste. Usually, if you really like the 12 y/o version of a Scotch, the higher price for an older one is well worth your money.

>>19760062
>MUH DEMOCRACY
No such thing. The ones that cry about it the most are directly responsible for it not being a thing.

>>19775194
Whenever someone starts crying about democracy being in peril you know they're a neolib authoritarian NPC.

>>19775529
I talk about democracy being in danger because, so long as I live, democracy is in danger

>>19775886
The scolloped tatters of the King in Yellow must hide Yhtill forever

I got another bottle of Redbreast 12 today. You should all do the same. If any of you ever travel to Ireland the 15 year is only $80 a the duty free store. STOCK UP.

Hmm the Laphroaig I bought, I've drank some more of it. It certainly tastes like something high quality and I can see why people enjoy it. I don't dislike it, and I find it perfectly drinkable. The smokiness is really interesting. I'm not sure that I actually enjoy it, though. I don't find myself thinking, "Man I'd sure like some more of that Laphroaig" like I think with bourbons that I like. Add of course this shit isn't exactly cheap. It feels hard to justify trying other scotches.

>>19774898
>Caol Ila, Lagavulin, Oban, Talisker
And once again, oh look, it's the paid Diageo shill.

>>19776059
>It feels hard to justify trying other scotches.
There's a remarkable variety of taste profiles to be found in Scotch. Something unpeated and sherry cask aged like a Glendronach will taste COMPLETELY different to Laphroaig. No resemblance at all. And something unpeated and bourbon barrel aged will taste completely different to either of those.

No love for rye in this hellhole I see

>>19776169
That's what I've heard. Would probably be interesting to explore the different kinds if a decent bottle didn't cost $60 minimum.

>>19776198
There's even quite a lot of variety to be found in peated Scotches.
Longrow doesn't taste anything like Laphroaig. Ardbeg 10 does taste anything like either of them.

>>19776198
There's even quite a lot of variety to be found in peated Scotches.
Longrow doesn't taste anything like Laphroaig. Ardbeg 10 doesn't taste anything like either of them.

>>19759994
>>19759990
The smokey peated stuff is an acquired taste.

>>19760062
uhhh sweaty? alcoholics are one of the most oppressed minority groups alive. maybe instead of blindly hating them you could um...I don't know...check your privilege and try to understand that they're going through hardships and systemic oppression that you will never understand? just a thought...

>>19776059
Laphroaig isnt my idea of a daily drinker or even weekly drinker.

definitely branch out and explore as much as possible to try and find your bliss point.

once you get a few dozen bottles under your belt or even just a handful of exceptional ones, you'll know the expense is worth it. plus, your opened bottles will slowly change as well as your taste.

you can still find some seriously good scotch (84+/100) under $60 after tax with a little luck.

part of it is also tempering your expectations a bit, because to a degree scotch does have lots of similarities across the board, so it's also suggested to get some decent rum, brandy, rye to build your palate.

doing random side by side testings to draw comparisons will show you the differences more overtly. have a neutral palate cleanser handy.

>>19776209
honestly they all taste pretty similar to me.

>>19777721
>tastelet
I can understand thinking Laphroaig and Ardbeg taste similar, but not Longrow and Laphroaig/Ardbeg. Campbeltown peat tastes absolutely nothing like Islay peat. It's earthy instead of maritime, and Longrow has a lovely lemony note that Laphroaig and Ardbeg don't have.

whiskey/scotch in general tastes awful. horrible meme drink.

you're drinking literal fucking drain cleaning fluid. of course its fundamentally nasty. you know this going in

>>19777865
>I have only tried Jack Daniels and Johnnie Walker

>>19777823
the differences are minimal
all i taste is malt sweetness and some earthiness

>>19777886
>tastelet

>>19777872
You'll be even more disappointed by the results if you're using whisk(e)y to clean your drains.

>>19778109
as I'm sure you've poured multiple bottles of expensive alcohol down your clogged drains to qualify your post

>>19778127
I've definitely dumped some cheap shit. It's coming more from a place that ethanol and water will dissolve things like fats over time, but caustic, foaming drain cleaner will do a much better job of it.

>>19759942
The main problem with Jameson is the smell. It has a very sharp cheap whisky smell to it. The taste is not that bad for the price, but it isn't great and combined with the smell it can really give you the idea that you are drinking cheap crap.

Scotch whisky is much different from Irish though. Don't let this 1 bad experience with Irish whisky let you think you don't like real whisky. Just get something speyside or highland region. These are generally going to be nice and beginner friendly. But do be careful that some of the famous brands now also produce cheap whiskies with no age on it, which could be a little disappointing (like the glenlivet founders reserve). Another good recommendation would be a Johnnie Walker black label. A lot of wannabe whisky experts are going to hate on it, because "omg it's commercial and it's not a single malt!", but as a whisky lover myself, I honestly think black label is a pretty good whisky for the price, and being a blend, its a very good 'average' scotch whisky for someone who is new to it.

Definitely don't listen to this anon >>19759990 and try laphroaig though. It has a VERY distinct specific taste, that many people don't like.

even full-on heroin addicts know not to consume the 'cleaning' forms of alcohol
no jargon-heavy crash-course needed

>>19778195
Alcool/Everclear does a great job of cleaning paint brushes. It also makes a hell of a Caesar/Bloody Mary as long as you're not consistently pouring doubles.

>>19778209
or just buy a new brush? they cost like 8c a piece
if your answer is 'I live in the desert a million miles from anything lol' .. then you're your own problem

>>19778195
To be honest, there are plenty of cheap alcohols that are really good. For example, Four Roses is a bourbon in roughly the same price category as Jameson is, and it's a really smooth drink that I as a whisky snob can enjoy to sip on by itself. That being said though, Jameson does indeed just taste like a cheap alcohol, with a slightly to sharp, metallic taste, and a way to sharp scent.

>>19759966
go with Oban.

>>19778226
I just snag a small jug of AZ from the lab a few times a year.
I'm definitely my own problem, but you're too worked up and consistently stoned to hit that particular nail anywhere near the head. Anyway, it's half past espresso time, and I don't have to be an adult today, so, I think I'll correct it with some Mezcal.

>>19778232
Oban is a highland, not an islay. That being said, Oban is probably a better choice for someone new to whisky than an islay. Oban is really nice. You've inspired me to take a glass tonight. I think I still have a bottle.

>>19777865


Moron.

>>19778232
$90 for something I may not like

>>19778530

Get a glass of it in a bar to find out if you want to buy it in the store?

>>19778542
Live in a rural area, nearest area that would have a bar that might have something like that is ~45 drive. Then I'd have to drive back after drinking, so it's no good.

>>19778530
Do as I said over here >>19778186
Stop listening to the wannabe experts, and just buy the JW black label. It's a fine whisky to get familiar with the taste of scotch. If you like it, you can get into more expensive single malts later.

Also, 90$ is an insane price, I'm assuming you are an American? I feel sorry for you guys. In europe the scotch whisky prices as much better.

>>19778550
>~45 minute* drive
>>19778551
I can actually get a 50ml bottle of JW Black for about $4. Do they sell small tester bottles like that where you live? They're fairly common here but not for scotch, so most brands don't have them (at least in my area). As for prices, bourbon is more affordable.

>>19778556
Yeah small tester bottles are quite normal here.

>>19778232
I got a bottle of Oban 12 year as a gift one time and I really enjoyed it, but I can't find anything from them for less than like $80-90 on sale in my area.

I fucking hate Virginia

>>19778446
yeah I recommended just based on being a pleasant scotch that doesn't get shilled a lot. last time I had it I got a bottle for around $60 at Costco - didn't realize it had crept up to the $90 range.

>>19778186
>Just get something speyside or highland region. These are generally going to be nice and beginner friendly. Another good recommendation would be a Johnnie Walker black label.
Don't do this unless you want a bland, nearly flavorless bottle. Stay FAR, FAR away from the typical noob Scotches, i.e. Johnnie Walker, Glenfiddich, Glenlivet, Glenmorangie. They are boring and bland.

>>19760062

>>19759942
what are we druking tonight bros? for me it's old pal jim

>>19779233
next drinking day is Tuesday

>>19779215
you have to get a basis for what qualifies as mediocre for the good shit to really shine.

>>19779159
all Diageo's core range single malts went up except for Lagavulin(which is only because now in the US you're getting the 700ml). so basically anytime you go for something in their premium line you are almost always paying around $100USD. gotta get that Asian money.

>Buy 6-pack of beer I want to try
>Taste is just okay, kind of ho-hum and bland
>Examine details of bottle
>Shelf life expired over a year ago
Okay

>>19759942
I enjoy the taste
It tastes like a combo of cough medicine and 1,000 year old water collected from a sweaty peat bog.

>>19781854
>I PUT A TEX ON A IMAEG!

>>19781854
Scotch people are insufferable like cigar people

>>19781944

>>19781944
It's best to only interact with bourbon people and pipe tobacco people

>>19781948
this guy fucks

>>19781953
What about people who enjoy scotch, bourbon, cigars and pipes? Are they to be trusted?

>>19781948
>fine cigar and snifter
>clearly a rocks glass
fag

>>19781948
BASED druKING

>>19781948
>Drinks wines exclusively
What now, strawmanfag?

>>19782268
There's a solid chance you're effeminate or homosexual. Maybe both!

>>19782300
So it's equally as bad as being a single malt whiskeyfag. Good to know.

>>19782010
Only if they primarily drink bourbon and primarily spoke pipes.

>>19781706
>you have to get a basis for what qualifies as mediocre for the good shit to really shine.
I think it's more likely someone just tastes dogshit like Glenfiddich/Glenlivet/Glenmorangie/Johnnie Walker, decides Scotch sucks and never tries it again.

>>19782471
while true, first impressions and all that but I wouldnt necessarily call them all dogshit, just lacking for a more attentive palate. leaving you wanting more isnt enough to dismiss an entire section of spirits.

>>19782304
Yep. Everyone's got their preferences, but flexibility's the cure for being an insufferable cunt. If you're dug in deep with your poisons of choice, a realistic personality can go a long way.

>>19782309
It's probably rye and handrolls more often than any of the above, but realistically it's anything, and the occasional puff.

>>19782514
>Leaving you wanting more
There's at least as much going on with that list (even Walker Black) as there is with popular bourbons and ryes.

>>19782587
Even Evan Williams Black Label has more flavor than any of those dogshit whiskies.

>>19782594
One it shares with Becel.

Reminder.

>Jim Murray, the author of the best-selling Jim Murray’s Whisky Bible, claimed contamination had affected the casks used to age whiskies, while bourbons, made in the United States, have improved.
>“Everyone automatically thinks that the best whisky is made in Scotland, but there are too many bad casks rattling around,” he said.
>“Generally speaking, bourbon … has overtaken Scotch. The best whisky is coming not from Scotland any more, but from Kentucky.”

>He argued that the main reason for the deterioration in Scotch’s quality is the use of sulphur candles to sanitise some barrels.
>The copper pot stills used to distil whisky remove unpleasant odours. But many whiskies are then matured in Spanish barrels that used to hold sherry, which have often been treated with sulphur candles. Mr Murray said this can give the whisky a “bitter finish”.
>Tainted batches can go unnoticed because about 30 per cent of people are unable to smell the contamination. Another suggested reason for the reduction in quality is the addition of caramel, a colouring agent.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/10502676/Scotch-malt-is-no-match-for-American-whiskey.html

Bourbon, by contrast, is matured in virgin oak casks, which do not require sulphur treatment, and the industry is banned from using caramel.

Reminder.

>Jim Murray, the author of the best-selling Jim Murray’s Whisky Bible, claimed contamination had affected the casks used to age whiskies, while bourbons, made in the United States, have improved.
>“Everyone automatically thinks that the best whisky is made in Scotland, but there are too many bad casks rattling around,” he said.
>“Generally speaking, bourbon … has overtaken Scotch. The best whisky is coming not from Scotland any more, but from Kentucky.”

>He argued that the main reason for the deterioration in Scotch’s quality is the use of sulphur candles to sanitise some barrels.
>The copper pot stills used to distil whisky remove unpleasant odours. But many whiskies are then matured in Spanish barrels that used to hold sherry, which have often been treated with sulphur candles. Mr Murray said this can give the whisky a “bitter finish”.
>Tainted batches can go unnoticed because about 30 per cent of people are unable to smell the contamination. Another suggested reason for the reduction in quality is the addition of caramel, a colouring agent.
>Bourbon, by contrast, is matured in virgin oak casks, which do not require sulphur treatment, and the industry is banned from using caramel.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/10502676/Scotch-malt-is-no-match-for-American-whiskey.html

Fucked up the quote the first time because I am drunk (from bourbon)

I have found that one of my favorite scotches is compass box artist blend. It's just nice and simple nothing particularly strong but it is well made and mostly single malt about 55% I think

>>19782649
Will you look at that masonigger symbol

>>19782762
They've infiltrating everything, from architecture firms to classrooms.

>>19762589
Glenfiddish became severely overpriced in the last few years at least where I live. Try the Glenlivet instead.

>>19759942
Youre supposed to mix it with ginger ale dumbass.

>>19759942
For me, it's this delicious garbage in a big glass with a lot of ice, soda water, and little squeezed lemon wedge during a hot summer day

why is nobody mentioning ballantine's my grandpa has been an alcoholic for 75 years straight and he fucking loves it i can drink an entire bottle in a single night and still want more of it

>>19783116
only beaners praise Ballantine's

>>19783153
huh close enough i'm italian make sense

>>19783182
Same flag, just less Oregon Trail on it.

>>19782642
I've been drinking Scotch for many years and have only come across two sulfured bottles.
It's very fucking obvious to someone who has the biological ability to detect it.
Most Scotches are not affected by this.

>>19783749
you mean a washed up old faggot writer signs deals with producers to get a percentage of profits when he shills your new shit and conveniently pimps bourbon before the taterpocalypse?! wow, I am actually shook by this news.

>>19783824
>whiskyfags have a whole jargon they use to have autistic arguments
based & taking your alcoholism seriously pilled

This stuff is great

I bought this recently and it's almost over. Recc me other whiskys to put in my infinity bottle with this as base.

>>19761841
>I might have a soft spot for it from watching it being chugged on True Detective
Thought I was the only one lmao

>>19781944
I stopped smoking cigars because I realized nicotine gives me migraines.

>>19781948

>>19784668
You probably just aren't drinking enough.

>>19784710
kek

It's even funnier that this strawman weeb thinks anime is the best medium (manga and LNs are both better mediums in Japan).
Same with sushi, which is really basic.

I bet this self-proclaimed "otaku" has never had sake like the fake weeb he is.

>>19785141
Fuck off weeb

>makes me feel ill after drinking it

>>19785170
No