/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.19727972]

which one is better, All-Clad D3 or Made In 5-ply?

[Anonymous No.19727974]

cram one of each and form your own opinion

[Anonymous No.19728009]

never even heard of made in

[Anonymous No.19728031]

>>19728009
it's a cheaper alternative sold directly on the company website.
it has been shilled by many YouTubers for years, but it seems actually good. The stainless steel pans are manufactured either in the US or Italy.

[Anonymous No.19728037]

>>19728031
If I want a 5-ply I am not going to skimp to save pennies. If I want a cheaper pan I'll just get a 3-ply. Buying a knockoff version is never a good idea.

[Anonymous No.19728173]

>>19728037
>Buying a knockoff version
why a knockoff? it's just a different brand that makes the same type of pan, like many others.
According to many, the quality is very high and at least similar to All-Clad.
The higher price asked for a premium brand like All-Clad doesn't always equate to a higher quality, there are other factors to take into account.
So, if I can save some money and have a pan that it's pretty much on par, why not?

[Anonymous No.19728178]

Just get All-Clad seconds or used. Don't support shilled products

[Anonymous No.19728240]

Get significant savings buying All Clad seconds. I bought pans with 1% scratch on the bottom of the pan. The higher the percentage the pan is scratched the lower the price!

[Anonymous No.19728256]

>>19728178
are you a commie? there's nothing wrong with paid sponsorships.
anyway, here in Europe All-Clad is particularly expensive and also a niche brand, so it's not that easy to find on the second hand market.
meanwhile Made In products started to become available on the local Amazon websites at decent prices.

[Anonymous No.19728329]

>>19727972
probably all-clad, because at least they are not retarded enough to use an unsearchable name

[Anonymous No.19728369]

>>19727972
Go with All-Clad if you want multiple options within each category, you like the U-shaped handles and polished finishes, and don’t mind spending more for an established brand, even though part of that high price is due to retail markups and the brand’s history. With Made In, you only have one option within each cookware category, but those options are thoughtfully designed in partnership with pro chefs. The handles are more comfortable and the brushed exterior is sleek and modern. The best part is that, with Made In, you get All-Clad durability and performance, at a much lower price.

[Anonymous No.19728624]

>>19728009
It's a french company. Literally made in france.
I have one of their carbon steel pans I got free with a gift card coming.

[Anonymous No.19728651]

>>19728173
some people still believe we exist in a trustworthy society where money directly correlates to quality / material / labor cost of a product and not them just stealing your money veblin style

[Anonymous No.19728666]

>>19727972
why would you pay so much money just to get something that gets outclassed by demeyere proline?

[Anonymous No.19729495]

>>19728624
I think it's an American company, but they make their products in different countries.
enameled cast iron and carbon steel cookware is manufactured in France.
stainless steel is made either in the US or Italy.

[Anonymous No.19729544]

>>19728666
even in Europe, Demeyere is significantly more expensive than All-Clad, and a lot more expensive than Made In.
I highly doubt that it's SO much better than those in practical use, worth spending twice as much. I even own a Demeyere pan, but it's because I have no problem spending money on expensive kitchen equipment, and because it was the best option at the time.
But for a normal person, other quality alternatives can be just as good for a much lower price.
(the proline series is so fucking heavy for everyday use anyway)

[Anonymous No.19729592]

>>19727972
It's stainless steel, get whatever is cheapest that isn't an obvious piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.19729744]

>>19729544
what country are you in? Demeyere is cheaper than All-Clad here. it's weird though. Bestsale seems to be the only shop that has these consistently low(er) prices

https://www.bestsale-shop.eu/proline-7-bakpan-met-dichtgelegde-rand-inox-demeyere-25624-5412191256244-4225624.html

all other shops are more expensive unless there's a rare sale. I ordered my Demeyere there although I was hesitant because they ship directly from Belgium (where all that stuff is produced)

[Anonymous No.19729756]

>>19728256
Name a product shilled by Youtubers and social media influencers that is actually good.

[Anonymous No.19729826]

>>19729744
I live in Italy. I bought my only Demeyere pan directly from the official Zwilling website (Demeyere is part of the Zwilling group). The prices were not particularly competitive, pretty much on par with Amazon, but I happened to find a 20% discount promo code.
I decided to return it because the bottom wasn't completely flat, but slightly concave, and they couldn't send me a replacement "for logistical reasons", only a refund, so I lost the price reduction opportunity.
In the last months the prices on the official webstore have even increased significantly. The multiline pan I bought was originally 189 euros, now it's 209.
Thank you for linking me that shop. They seem to have an even larger range of Demeyere products compared to the official one.

[Anonymous No.19729847]

>>19729826
>The multiline pan I bought was originally 189 euros, now it's 209.
I figured 209 vs 139 now is a big difference. Demeyere's pricing is really weird outside of Bestsale. I don't understand why nobody else has competitive prices. they would sell so much more if Amazon had the same prices. great reviews would be guaranteed.

I'm thinking about getting a Multiline as well as a thinner option in a different size that is still 7-ply
https://www.bestsale-shop.eu/catalog/product/view/id/82412/

[Anonymous No.19729891]

>>19729847
>I figured 209 vs 139 now is a big difference
139 euros is the current price on Amazon for a 12 inch 5-ply Made In pan, but according to Keepa it was 119 just a few weeks ago. I'll definitely keep an eye on that.
The lowest price I've ever found on Amazon for a good 28 cm Demeyere is 170-180 euro (Demeyere directly sells the Essential 5 range for cheaper, but It can't really compete with the more expensive ones, since it's more lightweight and has rivets).
November is just a couple months away, does BastSale usually have good deals for Black Friday?

[Anonymous No.19729923]

>>19729891
from what I remember there was no sale last year. I think they have these prices all year but I haven't noticed any higher prices either since last year which is unusual these days. I only looked at atlantis, proline and multiline series. I think the prices for proline and atlantis are fair but i can't tell how good multiline is although it looks good on paper. the lower lines are probably not worth it for the price

[Anonymous No.19730094]

>>19729923
from what I could tell, the Multiline pan was great, literally the perfect pan.
it's basically like the 7-ply Proline, just a bit thinner, so at a more manageable weight for everyday use. Too bad for the factory defect.
I just found out that BestSale charges 20 euros to ship in my country :(
but considering the lower prices it could still be worth it.

[Anonymous No.19730146]

>you should ALWAYS and ONLY buy the most expensive name brand tools! Anything else is inferior!
Lol at the consumers ITT. They sound like mechanics blowing every paycheck on Snap-On tools.

[Anonymous No.19730152]

>>19729756
RAID: Shadow Legends

[Anonymous No.19730284]

>>19729891
>8225 Ukrainian Hyrivni for a stainless steel pan
Jesus Christ, man. Even a Made In is only like $120 here and that's about as expensive as widespread commercially available stainless steel pans get, you can get a perfectly good stainless steel for $40.

[Anonymous No.19730315]

I bought an entire set of Tramontina tri-ply for ~$200 3 years ago, all in standard sizes with lids included and I've had zero issues with any of it. Only complaint (which is very minor) is that the lids are all glass instead of steel, but the handles are riveted loops and not the retarded screwed on knobs so many brands use that always fail, so they're fine.

All clad is good, but it's not "get two pans for what it would cost to get an entire set of cookware from other brands" good, and no their factory seconds stuff is not cheap enough to make that statement untrue.

[Anonymous No.19730343]

>>19730094
>from what I could tell, the Multiline pan was great, literally the perfect pan.
>it's basically like the 7-ply Proline, just a bit thinner
I have the proline and it's seriously an impressive piece of cookware. it's between 5mm-5.5mm thick which is much thicker than every other premium SS pan and iron cast tier. some iron casts are actually thinner than that. when I was looking for an iron cast pan I wanted to get something smooth but the prices for that are ridiculous considering what you get and how cheap that stuff is to produce compared to stainless. the proline is basically a 2in1 stainless + smooth cast iron so the 155€ for that were absolutely worth it. the heat retention is incredible, it's easy to clean and looks as new due to the special coating. no rivets make it really easy to keep clean. the only thing that is not easy to clean is the area between the two handle elements. the weight is no joke either but you get used to it. I think the handle design is the only real weak point

[Anonymous No.19730351]

>>19730343
this should be the standard handle design for the proline/atlantis

[Anonymous No.19730621]

>>19730284
120 euros is less than 130 USD and a reasonable price for a very high quality stainless steel pan that will last you a lifetime. 3-5-7-ply clad construction pans are pretty expensive. Other kinds of stainless steel pans (like the ones with a disc welded on the bottom) are clearly inferior, even if they can be just as expensive. Generally, under a certain price point (probably 60-70 euros in 2023 money), they're just crap.

[Anonymous No.19730678]

>>19728178
explain to me the difference between advertising in traditional/legacy media and 'shilled'. i'm not clear on the distinction. what about product placement in teevee and movies? advertising is advertising and all media products need to pay the bills one way or another. i mean, don't get me wrong, i hate advertising, but i don't see how one is different from another.

[Anonymous No.19732251]

>>19730146
>you should ALWAYS and ONLY buy the most expensive name brand tools! Anything else is inferior!
literally nobody said that. you're just being a hysteric roastie

[Anonymous No.19733308]

>>19730621
tramontina stainless pans are high quality and much cheaper than that

[Anonymous No.19733345]

>>19733308
I knew about Tramontina pans, but here in Europe they're not that cheap or easy to find.
a 12 inch tri-ply is currently at 65 euros on Amazon.
for some reasons, fully clad multi-ply pans have never been very common in Europe. Even premium brands like Fissler or Lagostina only makes the disc-bottomed ones.