American Food

[Anonymous No.19717689]

Foods that have legitametly been forged in America.

E.g. the hot dog and hamburger are both from Germany, the Cup of Noodles is from Eastern Asia, the Fish and Chips is from Norway/NW Europe, ...

What are we looking at here? Sweet potatoes with marshmallows on top? Blavkberry cobbler(blackberries are not really native to America, only the teenie tiny ones), I guess Thanksgiving turkey dinner maybe... with the stuffing... Not sure what the origin of that is, perhaps the turducken...no the turducken is definitely American food. What else...

[Anonymous No.19717693]

Another esl thread for people jealous of the US. How fun.

[Anonymous No.19717710]

I'm not interested in providing you with targets to fabricate discrediting stories for.

[Anonymous No.19717715]

>>19717689
America is a melting pot. it takes the best of every ethnicity that came here for a more fulfilling life and made it better.

[Anonymous No.19717719]

Europoor seethe about America thread #72626286

[Anonymous No.19717721]

>>19717689
>the hot dog and hamburger are both from Germany
they literally are not
same with pizza, chili con carne (in fact most tex mex food is more tex than mex) all the different chinese takeout things

[Anonymous No.19717726]

>>19717721
...pizza is from Italy. World War vets came back asking to "the pizza herb."

chili con carne... carne is Spanish for meat... not sure on that one.

>>19717710
>I'm not interested in providing you with targets to fabricate discrediting stories for.
found the faggit

[Anonymous No.19717748]

>>19717689
>legitametly
Keep working on the English, Hernandez.

[Anonymous No.19717762]

>>19717719
This is the cooking board. American threads are irrelevant here. As they have been in any online community for the past 3 decades. Keep trying though, Ivan.

[Anonymous No.19717780]

>>19717726
the first pizzeria opened in NY in 1905, way before the war
post war is actually when it became popular in italy. The italians had the word pizza but it referred to a focaccia with tomato slices baked on top of it. It wasn't the saucy cheesy bread we have today
italian immigrants that went back to the old country brought the american style of pizza with them and then italy made it's own regional versions. But it was american first

then you have "sicilian style" pizza which isn't really a sicilian style. Sicily has a dish called sfincione which is a square bread baked in a sheet pan with sauce and breadcrumbs on top
the fact it's square and thick is basically the only resemblance to what americans call sicilian pizza

[Anonymous No.19717802]

>>19717689
>rent fucking free

[Anonymous No.19717803]

>>19717721
>the hot dog and hamburger are both from Germany
>they literally are not
Sure they are. Americans just replaced proper bread rolls with those sugary soggy breads made for people without teeth.

[Anonymous No.19717830]

>>19717803
>replaced proper bread rolls
german frikadelle is not a sandwich and again hotdogs are a sausage originating in america

[Anonymous No.19717833]

>>19717689
America is a young nation that was filled with other countries.
How do don't understand a country like this wouldn't have many original dishes is beyond me.
What America did do is take foods and make them better.
/thread

[Anonymous No.19717852]

>>19717830
Looks like a sandwich to me.

[Anonymous No.19717862]

>>19717833
They need it to cope because their countries have been utterly irrelevent since 1776

Those coattails must be getting awfully worn by now

[Anonymous No.19717886]

>>19717852
now you're just being dishonest
but it's ok, everyone know that

[Anonymous No.19717887]

>>19717726
>found the faggit
You're jewish.

[Anonymous No.19717895]

Well there's sloppa joe but looking at it, it seems like peak british cuisine

[Anonymous No.19717897]

[Anonymous No.19717900]

>>19717715
the melting pot was invented as a narrative in 1913
>>19717689
most of the food commonly seen as mexican (tacos and all that foodtruck stuff), also i believe chop suey
>>19717833
>America is a young nation
it's neither a nation nor all that young

[Anonymous No.19717921]

>>19717886
That's a pretty common way to serve it and also has been in history.

[Anonymous No.19717950]

>>19717921
Your argument is because a meatloaf can be used as a filling for a sandwich
Therefore meatloaf is a sandwich
The American hamburger has nothing to do with hamburg other than vaguely resembling something people associated with Germans
the same way French fries have nothing to do with France

And that's even to say the standard American burger of being one more pan fried beef patties topped with cheese, lettuce, tomato, onion, pickles ketchup, and mayo on a toasted sesame seed bun barely even superficially resembles that picture

[Anonymous No.19717963]

>>19717950
>topped with cheese, lettuce, tomato, onion, pickles ketchup, and mayo on a toasted sesame seed bun barely even superficially resembles that picture
Nothing of that is mandatory.

[Anonymous No.19718030]

>>19717963
That's the dish though, you can do whatever toppings you want or don't want
Just like you can out BBQ sauce and chicken on a pizza and still call it a pizza, but there is a default setting and what I said is it

[Anonymous No.19718099]

>>19717689
>E.g. the hot dog and hamburger are both from Germany
This is exceptionally disingenuous. The bun, the SPECIFIC type of sausage and the combination thereof to create a hot dog were American innovations. Same goes for the hamburger; if you took everything from a double cheeseburger and put it on a a kaiser roll it still wouldn't be a fucking hamburger because a hamburger needs a hamburger BUN.

[Anonymous No.19718115]

>>19718099
So why do brioche buns count?

[Anonymous No.19718131]

>>19717689
mac&cheese, grilled cheese, american "cheese"
Americans are all about the cheese, it seems.

[Anonymous No.19718241]

>>19717950
Manwich! A solid American food!

[Anonymous No.19718252]

>>19718131
Actually, Americans are all about sauce. American cheese melts into a cheese sauce with minimal effort.

American Sauces... ranch, maybe? BBQ? Buffalo for sure...

[Anonymous No.19718353]

>>19718252
any sauce on that?

[Anonymous No.19718363]

Americans invented lactose-free cow milk in an attempt to destroy the alternative milk industry.

[Anonymous No.19718616]

>>19717721
>neapolitan pizza is not from napoly bro

[Anonymous No.19718624]

>>19718616
yes.

[Anonymous No.19719487]

All the different types of barbecue and fried chicken
potato chips
funnel cake

[Anonymous No.19719513]

>>19717689
Pop quiz, where do you think German cake is from?

[Anonymous No.19719554]

Tater tots

[Anonymous No.19719579]

Cheesesteak?

[Anonymous No.19719589]

>>19717689
Pasta is actually Chinese by those standards. America takes all the foods of the world and makes them palatable for all the races of the world. Your traditional ways of making food fall apart when put to the test.

[Anonymous No.19719911]

>>19719589
pasta is not chinese by those standards in any way shape or form because the italians did not get pasta from china, they had pasta before they had any chinese contact.

[Anonymous No.19720109]

>>19717900
>the melting pot was invented as a narrative in 1913
it became the case in 1913, the US hasn't just remained in stasis while people invent new narratives around it
>it's neither a nation
"one ______ under god"
>nor all that young
it has a culture of traditions shorter than four human lifetimes, so yes it's young

[Anonymous No.19720118]

is this the thread where we pretend america doesn't have the widest variety of delicious food available out of every country on the whole planet
>b-b-but that was inve-invented by some shitskin in a thir-
don't give a fuck who made it yuropissdrinker we took it and made it better

[Anonymous No.19720121]

>>19717689
>legitametly
Doesn’t know what it means.
Does know how to spell it.

[Anonymous No.19720129]

>>19720118
mongrel nation raised on mongrel food

[Anonymous No.19720168]

>>19720109
>it became the case in 1913, the US hasn't just remained in stasis while people invent new narratives around it
i see it more as a reinvention of the founding myth that has started back in 1913 and seems to be more or less finished by now, from "wasp foundingfathers declared wasp british colonies independent in 1776" to "nation of immigrants here to racemix"
>"one ______ under god"
when first written in 1892, america was closer to being a nation than today. at the latest after ww2, it is not any more. taking as a fact what some oldschool propaganda mantra says seems naive to me. i wouldn't describe the US as indivisible anymore, either
>traditions shorter than four human lifetimes
i'm not sure what you mean by lifetimes, if you mean 60 years that would be 240 years in total. how many republics did france start in that timeframe? what about germany or italy, who weren't even unified back then? how many even european traditions are younger than 240 years? you can, at best, argue that there is an american ethnos and its ethnogenesis is a young one, but neither the political entity america nor its culture is all that young

[Anonymous No.19720179]

The hamburger is American. Yes, hamburg Germany may have put ground meat between a bread roll, and if they were feeling frisky they'd even add grilled onions. But the hamburger as it's known today with the toasted seasame bun, American cheese, lettuce, pickles, etc. etc. is distinctly American. Anyone who pretends like they seriously think of Germany when you say hamburger is a liar. This applies to most American foods too.

[Anonymous No.19720235]

>>19717780
>the first pizzeria opened in NY in 1905, way before the war
PIzza Margherita was invented before that.
>>19717830
>hotdogs are a sausage
Hotdogs are sausage in bread
>>19717833
>What America did do is take foods and make them better.
Adapting foreign dishes to their own palate is really just Americanizing them though. Many of those are different and stand on their own ground and delicious in themselves, but not necessarily better by objective metrics.

[Anonymous No.19720241]

>>19720109
>it became the case in 1913,
no it didnt. Even after Hart Celler there was no melting

[Anonymous No.19720261]

>>19717689
fish and chips are of jewish origin you appropriating retard

[Anonymous No.19720292]

>>19720261
?

[Anonymous No.19720307]

>>19717726
chili con carne is very much not american, its not even south american
I really don't know where this idea comes from, it is of spanish origin, always has been

[Anonymous No.19720312]

god.bless.america

[Anonymous No.19720328]

the real question is "how many ingredients must be changed for a dish to be considered unique and seperate from similar dishes?"
you add cheese to a hamburger and it becomes a new dish called a cheeseburger for example. So whoever first added cheese to the hamburger determines where the cheeseburger originated, it's not some magical extension of the former. As that would imply the cheeseburgers creator didnt have an ethnicity or nationality. To say pizza is itallian is just as stupid as saying that Pizza predates Rome. Sure, putting toppings on bread precedes Rome itsself as a nation, but they werent using tomato sauce, broiling cheese and cures meets directly on the wire rack like Adam Ragusea either. theyre different dishes. An american variety of Pizza originated in America, just as the Itallian variet originated in Italy, and not Rome.

entire thread deconstructed.

[Anonymous No.19720347]

>>19720328
Neither tomato sauce, cheese or "meets" are the defining elements of pizza.

[Anonymous No.19720363]

>>19720347
yeah, is it that hard to remember pineapple?

[Anonymous No.19721196]

Any turkey based dish is inherently American, as the bird is only native to...North America.
Monterey Jack and thus Pepper Jack
Cornbread
Cream Cheese
Rueben
Italian Beef (Get fucked Italy, Chicago beat you to it, BUNCHA FAGS)
The entire category of tex-mex
Cuban sandwich (actually from Florida)
Actually any sandwich worth a damn, really

[Anonymous No.19721491]

>>19720235
>PIzza Margherita was invented before that.
thats a cute story they tell but there's no evidence of it

[Anonymous No.19721512]

>>19717715
The best? KEK no

[Anonymous No.19721586]

>>19717726
>...pizza is from Italy.
Yet everyone in the world outside of Italy eats and prefers american style pizza. Curious

[Anonymous No.19721778]

>>19717689
Buffalo wings
BBQ
Cajun-Jumbalaya, gumbo, etc
Seafood boil. Maryland: blue crab, Louisiana : Crawfish
Peanut butter
Lobster roll
Fajitas
Philly cheesesteak
Caesar salad
Biscuits and gravy
Clam chowder
corn dog
A million unique sandwich variations of which some have already been posted
Chocolate chip cookies
German chocolate cake
Key lime pie
Pecan pie
Smores

[Anonymous No.19722059]

>>19721586
>Yet everyone in the world outside of Italy eats and prefers american style pizza.
Not true.

[Anonymous No.19722157]

>>19718099
>>19717689
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburg_steak
it took until the 30s in new york for people to regularly eat hamburg steaks on bread

[Anonymous No.19722164]

>>19721196
funniest thing about the cuban sandwich is that it was invented by Italian immigrants in Tampa

[Anonymous No.19723375]

We take food from the rest of the world and make it better.
It’s the natural order of the world and you can’t fight it.

[Anonymous No.19723477]

>>19717721
The hamburger is literally frikadelle on a roll, and as such, is absolutely German in origin.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburg_steak

[Anonymous No.19723485]

>>19717830
>hotdogs are a sausage originating in america
You mean Frankfurt sausages, or frankfurters as they’re called by Americans?
Ever stop to wonder why they’re named for Frankfurt, Germany?

[Anonymous No.19723613]

>>19723375
>adds corn syrup
>suddenly it's better

[Anonymous No.19723620]

>>19717689
Looks like a french "rôti sans pareil" for poor. Nothing legitimatly american to me.

[Anonymous No.19723623]

>>19723485
Cope.

[Anonymous No.19723797]

>>19721778
Kek.
BBQ is fucking African in origin.

[Anonymous No.19724402]

>>19717715
The majority of Americans have been English speaking Protestant Germanics for it's entire history. America became a powerful and successful country because of English, Scots, Germans and Nords. The Irish Papists are a bunch of drunk retards who's main contribution to America is creating the most corrupt cities and political dynasties in American history. The Sicilians brought organized crime. If you removed blacks half of America's problems would disappear overnight. And all the post 60s immigrants are parasites who are sucking America dry.
The idea of a nation being strong because it's a "melting pot" is an inherently false idea, you can't make something good with subpar ingredients, if you mix milk and shit you don't get chocolate milk.

[Anonymous No.19725015]

Cool, I think its decided then. All food is Amerucan food and no food existed prior to modern USA.

Jesus Christ... I wanted a fun thread but you are all just insufferable twats.

OP /out/

[Anonymous No.19725070]

>>19717689
Reminder that potatoes, tomatoes, and chili peppers are all from the Americas, so if you are eating any dish with any of those items, you are eating American food. What people currently think of as European or Asian food is actually just what it became after trade with America was established.

[Anonymous No.19725124]

>>19717900
>>19720168
>it's one of those "um ackshually nation means this and that and has restrictions that disqualifies all countries from being nations unless you give them a free pass for having ethnic diversity because they're in europe or some shit" autists
Please leave. Nobody wants you outside of your containment board.
>>19725015
>expecting a fun thread
>when fun threads either get pruned or flooded with nofunallowed reddit politispergs

[Anonymous No.19725212]

>>19717689
Buffalo Wings

[Anonymous No.19725253]

>>19723797
No it's not. Literally every country has some form of BBQ. Not all of it is unique but American BBQ sure is

[Anonymous No.19725294]

>>19725015
Why did you even start such a stupid thread knowing it would descend into utter idiocy, you galloping faggot?

[Anonymous No.19725372]

>>19723797
anon, you completely misunderstood whatever you heard. if anything it's native american in origin, but even then it's so different from how it was done when the spaniards met the natives. the caribbean natives used a wooden framework over an above ground fire to cook foods, while the natives of mexico and whatnot would dig holes in the ground and bury meats wrapped in leaves with hot coals to cook
american barbecue, the kind where you dig a trench in the ground, fill it with hot coals from a nearby fire, elevate whole animal carcasses over the coals and slow cook for hours, basting with a mop sauce to soften up any tough meat and flavor it, developed in virginia
now here comes the reason you may think it's african in origin, the laborious cooking was done by african slaves most of the time. barbecue was spread throughout the south in the 1800s as virginian cotton planters colonized the south and brought slaves with them
that hardly makes it african though. it's extremely american

[Anonymous No.19725377]

tomatoes aren't even native to italy. 60% of the foods the world enjoys today come from the americas.

[Anonymous No.19725383]

America invented every food.

[Anonymous No.19725391]

>>19717689
Chicken parmesan was invented by italian immigrants in new york

[Anonymous No.19725855]

>>19717715
>America is a melting pot.
This phrase was invented by a Zionist Jewish man, Israel Zangwill. It is founded on hypocrisy and Jewish self-interest.

[Anonymous No.19725874]

>>19717689
The entirety of Tex mex and Cajun cuisines of course. Things like “Pacific Northwest” and “Californian” cuisines are too young to really be notable outside of their regions but they do exist. Midwest cuisine is a thing but it’s more comfort/guilty pleasure food than anything gastronomically impressive, makes sense when you’re either working 14 hr days on a farm or tolerating a godawful winter. And of course there’s New England with their lobster rolls, clam chowder and schmear bagels. Have you ever been to America?

[Anonymous No.19725882]

>>19721778
Caesar salad is technically Mexican to be fair. And the best Caesar salads have tortilla strips instead of croutons and a little dash of cilantro and lime.

[Anonymous No.19725897]

>>19717689
Cheese Burgers were invented in L.A., most fast food comes from Los Angeles.

[Anonymous No.19725898]

Ice cream waffle cone, TV dinners, snow cones, lots of candies and snacks, lots of fast food and instant foods, generally foods that were invented after 1900 have a good chance of being either invented in the US or at least developed and perfected here. Oh, canning jars are a US invention.

[Anonymous No.19725903]

>>19725882
>Caesar salad is technically Mexican to be fair.
No, it isn't. Caesar Cardini was an Italian immigrant who lived in San Diego and opened a restaurant in Tijuana during prohibition because he could serve alcohol there; when Prohibition ended he packed up his operation in Mexico and re-opened it in the US.

>And the best Caesar salads have tortilla strips instead of croutons and a little dash of cilantro and lime.
You disgust me.

[Anonymous No.19725924]

>>19717726
>>19720307

Chile Con Carne was first described by the original conquistadors landing in modern mexico as they saw the natives eating a stew of meat and chiles. Recipes for this aren't in the historical record but only mentions of it. Where it really firdt enters the culinary landscape is during the Mexican-American war in Texas as it was an easy battle dish to prepare seeing as all they needed was dried meat and dried chiles to rehydrate in a stew. It was then popularized in the early 1900s in San Antonio by a group of Mexican women at the town markets known as "The Chili Queens". It was during the chili queen Era that the addition of tomatoes and spices got introduced to the dish before spreading to the rest of the United States and developing regional variations. Though Chili Con Carnes history is intimately tied with Mexico, Mexicans do not claim it as part of their culinary lexicon. The more accurate place to put it is in southwestern or texmex cuisine as it was developed and popularized through American/Mexican fusion.

[Anonymous No.19725953]

>>19725903
I see you also watch tasting history. And yes, a slightly acidic Caesar with fried tortilla strips is better. Croutons kind of suck in general. Also those restaurants who serve you a Caesar with the romaine all in one lettuce piece, like you’re supposed to eat it like nachos? What a joke

[Anonymous No.19725978]

>>19725924
It's kind of bizarre to me how few people before like 1900 ever thought to write down cooking recipes, some people did but not all that many and their recipes were almost always really vague. I don't know if I prefer that over today's dynamic of every dumb housewife writing a novel about how her tia Norma used to make the BEST carne adobo before getting to the fucking recipe

[Anonymous No.19726029]

>>19725978
They were written down quite a lot but mostly lost as with most written works jn history

[Anonymous No.19726042]

>>19725978
NO ONE should ever write down Filipino recipes

[Anonymous No.19726061]

>>19726029
Even in recipes from like the 1800s though they aren't very specific anything, quantities of ingregients are specified with words like "some" and "a bit"

[Anonymous No.19726169]

>>19725953
>I see you also watch tasting history.
First of all, I can't stand that preening faggot. He does tiktok-tier ADAPTATIONS of historical dishes for modern kitchens that the average brainless internet addict will find approachable while presenting them as authentic to appeal to these mouth-breathers and he should be hanged for it. This nigger will smugly declare "the recipe says to cook it in X way, but I'm not going to do that because Y and I'm going to substitute for Z" shortly before tasting what he cooked and saying something to the effect of "wow guys, you can really taste the history". I'm not expecting him to mill his own wheat with a grindstones or to fly around to world to buy the exact right type of lentil because it's not imported into the US or whatever and for anything from the last hundred and twenty years or so a modern kitchen and ingredients are generally fine but the fact that he can't even be assed to make a fire to cook anything is absolutely inexcusable.

And that's just the cooking. His historical takes are fucking painful to watch and are nothing more than some general context and quirky trivia. He doesn't go into detail of the history of the ingredients or the ACTUAL historical cooking methods unless there's said quirky trivia attached, to say nothing of chemistry. He's a festering wart on the ass of historical reenactment and every time I see him I pray for his sudden death.

Second, I knew about the history of the caesar salad before youtube even existed because my great grandparents used to eat at his restaurants in San Diego.

>And yes, a slightly acidic Caesar with fried tortilla strips is better. Croutons kind of suck in general. Also those restaurants who serve you a Caesar with the romaine all in one lettuce piece, like you’re supposed to eat it like nachos? What a joke
Fascinating. Please face the wall now.

[Anonymous No.19726176]

I'm forging some American food right now

[Anonymous No.19726269]

>>19717900
>America isn't young!

You must be an American. Tell me more about America's long history, China wants to know.

[Anonymous No.19726278]

>>19717689
>blackberries are not really native to America
If this is the metric we're going by, then virtually no dish anywhere is native to its cuisine.

[Anonymous No.19726279]

>>19717762
>denying the cultural influence of America around the world
Envy

[Anonymous No.19726293]

>>19726269
The US is the oldest constitutional democracy in the world. Europe was an even bigger shitshow not too long ago.

[Anonymous No.19726306]

>>19725015
You're a faggot

[Anonymous No.19726355]

>>19717689
The very nature of American food is to take ingredients and techniques from other nations and just doing our own fucking thing with then. That's how you get 'spaghetti with meat sauce' when spaghetti is normally paired with oil or cream sauces in Italy.

[Anonymous No.19726385]

>>19726355
>ragu is an American creation
Kek.
>>19726293
San Marino is the worlds oldest constitutional democracy.

[Anonymous No.19726389]

>>19726355
FUCK YEAH!

[Anonymous No.19726437]

>>19726355
Americans just took shitty spaghetti nobody else eats because the shape is retarded and paired it with sauces usually eaten with other types of pasta.

[Anonymous No.19726463]

>>19726385
Don't give a shit about your tiny eurofag countries a fucking blip in Italy doesn't count

[Anonymous No.19726467]

>>19724402
>I have a degree in history from Redddit.com

[Anonymous No.19726498]

European here, some things that I consider American food:
>Barbecue
yeah, every country in the world has some sort of smoked/grilled meat but American style is definitely its own thing
>Philly cheesesteak
seems pretty American to me unless again you think it doesn't count because you can get a cooked meat sandwich with cheese somewhere else
>Pastrami
American Pastrami is NOTHING like the European cured meats that inspired it, they're also very delicious but completely different.

In general, if a country has its own version of food, it's still this country's food, even if they got it from somewhere else.
Like, you can argue Ramen is Chinese but you'll just look dumb.

[Anonymous No.19726570]

>>19726169
>impotent screeching about his favorite e-celeb not making his food right
>death threats over food
Oh yeah, it's an American thread alright.

[Anonymous No.19726619]

I'm surprised nobody has posted pulled pork/pork barbeque yet

[Anonymous No.19726626]

You know it's okay to just say you love the United States of America, you don't have to keep making these envy threads like you're some kind of tsundere

[Rabbit No.19726654]

>>19726619
Scandinavian.

[Anonymous No.19726728]

>>19720307
Chilis come from the Americas dumb dumb

[Anonymous No.19726737]

>>19723477
>The hamburger is literally frikadelle on a roll
Except it's not. Hamburger patties are all beef. If you mix veal, eggs, or breadcrumbs in with the meat then it's not a hamburger.

[Anonymous No.19726738]

>>19717689
Probably NC barbecue. Two completely different cultures developed it independently from different source recipes because of what was available locally. One of the few uniquely American dishes

[Anonymous No.19726741]

>>19723485
Frankfurter sausages are 100% pork. Hot dogs are either all beef or a blend of beef, pork, and chicken.

[Rabbit No.19726745]

>>19726737
What about lamb?

[Anonymous No.19726746]

>>19723797
Wrong. If anything you can trace the origins of the word back to barbacoa, but that refers to a method of burying the meat in the ground along with embers from a fire. It has very little to do with American barbecue.

[Anonymous No.19726749]

>>19725015
You knew what was going to happen, shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.19726750]

>>19717950
>the same way French fries have nothing to do with France
Fuck's sake you're a fucking retard man

[Anonymous No.19726762]

>>19726750
The "french" in french fries refers to the cut. If you're doing it by hand then you're frenching the potatoes.

[Anonymous No.19726767]

>>19726745
You could make a case for a 100% ground lamb burger, but it's still an unusual variation. Like I've seen plenty of restaurants offering a lamb burger, but if I ordered a burger and got one that was lamb without any indication that's what it was I'd be pretty confused.

[Anonymous No.19726772]

>>19726762
>frenching the potatoes.

[Anonymous No.19726773]

The entire lexicon of Cajun and creole food.

[Anonymous No.19726782]

Nobody bothers to answer the question, that tells you everything you need to know about the supposed "american" food

[Anonymous No.19726799]

Nobody should care where a food was technically first created. Food is now a culture.
Arguing that American food is actually <insert another nation here> food because it was possibly technically there first is like arguing that Americans aren't American because they were British / German / Italian / Irish / etc. first. It's a self defeating argument.
What makes a food's owner is who develops and proliferates it, both in the past and the present. But ownership is also not boolean. American Chinese food ultimately has its roots in Chinese culture, but it is undoubtedly still an "American" food. Pizza proliferated in both America and Italy. Americans own their Pizza, Italians own their Pizza. Koreans own their pizza. Fuck Brazilians. Also, some foods, firmly established as not being American, can have an American version. Take American Goulash as an example.
Arguing over who owns "pizza", or in other words what type of pizza the word "pizza" defaults to, is an exercise in stupidity. Again, food is a culture. In America, "pizza" defaults to American pizza. In Italy, "pizza" defaults to Italian pizza. The default meaning of the term depends on the contextual culture whence the term is used.
In previous centuries these delineations were easy to see and understand because travel took much longer, and transportation of ingredients was logistically severely limited. Not to mention places of discussion always took place in physical locations, automatically setting the cultural context.
But what about an international context? If a food's ownership is arguable, perhaps hamburger as an example? While you can argue that the hamburger is not owned solely by Americans, you cannot claim that hamburgers are not American. Because American culture recognizes the hamburger as American. Because other cultures think of the hamburger as American. Even in an international context, it's hard to support the argument that American culture does not have majority ownership.

[Anonymous No.19726818]

>>19723797
The many regional variants, including the world-famous KC-style sweet ketchup-molasses sauce, the Carolina spicy mustard sauce, Texas dry-rub, Michigan cherry BBQ, or Alabama lemon-mayonnaise-black pepper "baptized" smoked chicken, are all uniquely American inventions. Everywhere you go in the US you'll find different native cuisines. In western Kentucky you'll find the only few towns known for slow-smoked mutton. California has tri-tip. In Illinois you'll find beef ribs, or a thin, sour cumin-based sauce poured on simple dry-smoked pulled pork. To say American BBQ isn't unique is either ignorant or disingenuous.
>>19721778
Also:
Pumpkin pie
All Cajun food (boudin, gumbo, crawfish boil, etc.)
Snickerdoodles
Fluffernutters
Sweet gelatin dessert
Banana pudding (w/ nilla wafers)
The potato chip (crisp) in Sarasota, NY
California Pizza
California roll (sushi)
Tri-bean salad
Creamy coleslaw
Caesar salad (no, not mexican)
New England clam chowder
Boston baked beans (with molasses)
Hazy IPA (not my favorite)
Concord grape juice/jelly
Root Beer/Sarsparilla

And don't even get me started about the hundred or so regional hot dog styles, or we'll be here all day.

[Anonymous No.19726821]

>>19717833
post your hook nose

[Anonymous No.19727000]

>>19726437
How does that refute my point? We took their ingredients and did our own thing with it.

[Anonymous No.19727232]

>>19721586
I'm American and hate these kinds of threads because nobody ever has any clue what they're talking about. You are one of those people. I think that America has more variety and overall better pizza than anywhere else in the world, but most countries copy the Italian model, with simple, single serving pizzas eaten with a knife and fork.

[Anonymous No.19727238]

>>19725015
>posts the lowest quality, unoriginal, guaranteed replies bait thread
>i-i just wanted a fun thread, guise...what's with all the shit flinging??
Also, nobody gives a shit if the OP sticks around for a thread like this. It might have well been posted by a bot.

[Anonymous No.19727245]

>>19717689
there was no potatos or tomatos before america so anything with that stuff

[Anonymous No.19727452]

>>19726169
Holy fuck can you seethe any harder

[Anonymous No.19728149]

>>19720261
no the combination of fish and chips are of English origin. Fried fish is of sephardic Jewish origin.

[Anonymous No.19728167]

>>19717689
Ceaser Salad

[Anonymous No.19728915]

>>19717900
yeah tacos are TOTALLY American just like the burrito and the tortilla itself.

[Anonymous No.19728920]

>>19728167
invented in Tijuana

[Anonymous No.19728966]

>>19728920
by an American

[Anonymous No.19729149]

>>19717689
Thanksgiving fare is a mix of European farmer food (mostly root vegetables), and Native American food (turkey, corn, pumpkin, etc). Quite healthy desu.

[Anonymous No.19729158]

>>19717689
Crab Rangoon is ironically an entirely American invention designed as knock-off Asian food.

[Anonymous No.19729174]

the fast food style gyros originated in Chicago

[Anonymous No.19729178]

>>19717693
The best way to practice is to do it, so why insult people for having English as a second language?

[Anonymous No.19729180]

>>19729174
THANK YOU BASED CHICAGO

[Anonymous No.19729218]

>>19725978
the Spanish destroyed a lot of the literature they came across because they wanted to present their way of life and beliefs as the only possibility with no confliction

[Anonymous No.19729298]

>>19729218
Bullshit. The Spanish had entire encyclopedias detailing native culture and taught the Indios how to write so that they could record their traditions.

[Anonymous No.19729304]

>>19729218
The natives had no written language

[Anonymous No.19729336]

The Muffuletta: Objectively the best sandwich; Invented in Louisiana.

[Anonymous No.19729454]

>>19727232
>but most countries copy the Italian model
Are those countries on the planet with us right now? The only single serving pizzas I've seen were made with mayonnaise instead of tomato sauce.

[Anonymous No.19729461]

>>19717689
I made it a fundamental promise to myself that I'd never eat any food that had turd in the name.

[Anonymous No.19729464]

>>19727232
>most countries copy the Italian model
How delusional do you have to be to legitimately think this

[Anonymous No.19729504]

>>19729336
based

[Anonymous No.19729514]

Posting here because I want to read the thread but it's too late don't want to forget it. Also Jew york bagels are probably an american invented food.

[Anonymous No.19729620]

>>19717689
General Tso's Chicken.

[Anonymous No.19729643]

>>19729178
because every ESL retard on this site is obsessed with the US and can't post about anything else

[Anonymous No.19729737]

>>19717689
What would you call it if you stuffed a ham with a salmon and put the ham inside a huge turkey?

[Anonymous No.19730119]

>>19729643
People bitching about muh esl are newfag zoomers and non americans only think about you fags due to your constant subversion and sabotaging of our countries. Death to America, death to Israel.

[Anonymous No.19730205]

[Anonymous No.19730460]

The humble garbage plate

[Anonymous No.19730662]

>>19724402
All that bullshit and not a single mention of the biggest suspects, I wonder who could be behind this post.

[Anonymous No.19730679]

Bbc

[Anonymous No.19730751]

>>19722059
i think he meant if you're not retarded

[Anonymous No.19731135]

>>19730119
Way to prove his point retard

[Anonymous No.19732180]

>>19729336

people snack on processed meat and cheese, weve evolved,

[Anonymous No.19732206]

>>19732180
What does that honestly have to do with the best sandwich on the face of the plant earth. If you are going to come at me you better come with some force.

[Anonymous No.19732215]

europeans just eat fish and peas

[Anonymous No.19732238]

>>19717895
tasty tasty

[Anonymous No.19732244]

>>19729178
Pointing out that you’re ESL isn’t an insult, it just means that your grammar is noticeably poor

[Anonymous No.19732249]

>>19723477
>m.

[Anonymous No.19732298]

>>19730460
Where do I find these?

[Anonymous No.19732322]

>>19717689
The hamburger was forged here, still got the OG place that started it all here. Also bison.

If you consider all of the Americas, there is a ton of specialty & local food from the central and southern Americas. Chilis, chocolate, etc.

Then you have things like gator and snake. Not super common, but more of a southern thing. Crawdads are an American thing too, never heard about the frenchies doing a crawdad boil.

BBQ is also an American thing, from brisket to pulled pork.

[Anonymous No.19732341]

>>19729178
Because having to deal with you fucktards directly makes my internet experience worse

Everything was better when the web wasnt so worldwide

[Anonymous No.19732671]

Thirdies worship kfc. I do too. Not kfc in particular because it's greasy wet shit now but i worship fried chicken and bourbon. Thank you kentucky and texas for making me a fat alchoholic fuck.

[Anonymous No.19733244]

>>19729178
Imagine if i posted on a french forum in barely legible French talking about how rerarded everybody from France is

[Anonymous No.19733257]

>>19725924
>Though Chili Con Carnes history is intimately tied with Mexico, Mexicans do not claim it as part of their culinary lexicon.
This is one of the most interesting parts to me. I think it's primarily due to the seethe they have over texas (for some reason lmao)

[Anonymous No.19735047]

>>19724402

You should learn history better. Depending on the region of the US, even prior to the revolution there were a lot of other people here, not just wasps.

[Anonymous No.19735062]

>>19726818
Eastern NC on pulled pork or brisket. KC on Ribs and Memphis on chicken

[Anonymous No.19735217]

>>19723797
BBQ is like farming it's kind of something all cultures to a certain extent have practiced just in different ways, trying to pin it to just one is retarded.

[Anonymous No.19735221]

>>19728966
By an italian, next.

[Anonymous No.19735228]

>>19735221
who immigrated to America.
Also the clientele of the restaurant were Americans because of prohibition.
So if the food was invented for Americans, I think it's American food regardless of the race of the creator.

[Anonymous No.19735231]

>>19735228
Nigger you didn't invent pizza, you didn't invent that salad either. American has invented a lot but not those two things. If him moving to Mexico didn't magically make him mexican then he didn't become American either, a dog born in a stable is not a horse.

[Anonymous No.19735237]

>>19735231
he didn't move to Mexico. He opened a restaurant in Mexico so Americans could cross the border and drink booze

[Anonymous No.19735243]

>>19735237
And according to your logic he magically went from being an italian immigrant to a Mexican.

[Anonymous No.19735249]

>>19735243
He wasn't a citizen of Mexico dummy

[Anonymous No.19735344]

>>19729454
>>19729464
I've had pizza all across Western and Eastern Europe, Russia, SE Asia, and even a couple places in South-East Africa. They all predominantly use the Italian model rather than the American. Go outside some time.

[Anonymous No.19735377]

>>19730205
kek this is the hardest cope I've ever seen

[Anonymous No.19735594]

>>19725383

FUUUUUuuuuuu
The original of that image is my desktop wallpaper

[Anonymous No.19735651]

>>19717689
>the hot dog and hamburger are both from Germany
>the Fish and Chips is from Norway/NW Europe

[Anonymous No.19736481]

>>19726818
>In western Kentucky you'll find the only few towns known for slow-smoked mutton
BBQ mutton with a vinegary sauce will always be my favorite.

[Anonymous No.19736634]

>>19723613
he did say better not healthier

[Anonymous No.19736643]

>>19718624
Retard

[Anonymous No.19737122]

Only an American is dumb enough to believe that putting meat on bread was invented only ~300 years ago

[Anonymous No.19737135]

>>19737122
Only a european is dumb enough to think the US never popularized any kind of food

[Anonymous No.19737137]

>>19737135
Deep fried butter isn't food

[Anonymous No.19737140]

>>19737137
Case in point

[Anonymous No.19737144]

>>19737140
Concession accepted

[Anonymous No.19737167]

>>19737144
Try again bud

[Anonymous No.19737179]

>>19737167
Ok?
Concession accepted
Did it work this time?

[Anonymous No.19737189]

>>19737179
No

[Anonymous No.19737190]

>>19737189
Must be an issue on your end then

[Anonymous No.19737201]

>>19737190
I don't think so

[Anonymous No.19737210]

>>19737201
You should get it looked at

[Anonymous No.19737220]

>>19737210
Nah

[Anonymous No.19737228]

>>19737220
Oh well, I'll toss you one more. Hopefully this one gets through. Otherwise you'll just have to live with it being busted.
Concession accepted

[Anonymous No.19737234]

>>19737228
There was no concession though

[Anonymous No.19737237]

>>19737234
Yours is busted so you can't see it, clear as a day to the rest of us

[Anonymous No.19737273]

>>19737237
Delusional

[Anonymous No.19737277]

>>19737273
Get it fixed and you'll see it too

[Anonymous No.19737683]

>>19720261
>>19721196
The Kentucky Hot Brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMCPHFTf5YU

[Anonymous No.19738754]

>>19717715
>>19717900
no and it was created by you know who

[Anonymous No.19738758]

>>19717689
Hamburgers actually originated in America

[Anonymous No.19738766]

>>19723375
>beans