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This thread is for discussing teas, tisanes, and other herbal infusions.
info: types of tea, where to get tea, how to brew tea
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>> No.19709239

I want drink some other teas but i keep buying puer instead

>> No.19709245

>>19709239
Me but with black teas
No other tea brings the malt grain taste in the same way

>> No.19709256

>>19709245
>malt grain taste
That's a solid flavor profile to be looking for lots of interesting takes on that in black teas. But yeah i cant think of any other teas that end up in that part of the flavor spectrum.

>> No.19709263

>>19709234
That being said, I don't know if the gaiwan brewing instructions in the pastebin have been working for me. Though I've had issues with the Red Blossom ones too. For this tea today I used the Red Blossom amount and time (6 g for 2 minutes) but used less water than they said (because my gaiwan only holds 120 ml if I don't fill it to the top) and that ended up with something good. I guess it kind of goes into this post >>19708641, though it means I might not be able to get good brewing down with the meager amount you get from Red Blossom with their single serving orders.

>> No.19709313

>>19709245
>>19709256
I like a malty tea but I haven't searched much into it.
Got any recommendations?

>> No.19709378

>>19709263
>don't know if the gaiwan brewing instructions in the pastebin have been working for me.
I think the ratios/water ratios there a a bit low. Most beginner guides seem recommend that though. I consider any sort of tea brewing guides to be rough estimates. Use them as a starting point to push you in the right direction. They can and should be adapted to fit the tea and your tastes. Personally I use a ratio of 8-9g/100ml with flash steeps for most Chinese teas but there are other just as valid ways to do it.

>> No.19709417

>>19709263
Yeah ball oolong can be a little tricky. I think the pastebin is okay 6-6.5 grams for a 100ml gaiwan seems reasonable. But the brew times can be finicky, right when the tea starts to open up in can infuse really quickly, so you might have to do an inital 30 second steep and then do a few much shorter ones so they don't get too strong.
Or are you talking about the western brewing directions?

>> No.19709465

>>19709417
>Or are you talking about the western brewing directions?
Gaiwan. My gaiwan is 150 ml, but 120 ml while leaving the curved part at the top empty to make it easier to grab. Most of the samples I got from Red Blossom were 2g, which makes it kind of difficult to follow some of the instructions but this oolong came with 6g. I'm for adjusting things but I'm kind of new to this and it's hard to tell if brewing slightly longer will make it bitter.

>> No.19709471

>>19709313
Same here.

>>19709245
>>19709256
Maltchads, can we get some recs?

>> No.19709570

>>19709471
Cheap option is the Jin Jun Mei from Fullchea, starts at 10$ for 25g and is quite a roasty malt but it’s not as smooth. You can get better stuff at Fullchea for more, obviously. The Mao Feng from YS is also relatively cheap but very good, although it is a clean malt with less of the grain flavour. YS Black Gold Biluochun tastes like the bread my mother used to make with malted barley. Additionally I’ve had quite a few Golden Monkey and Jin Jun Mei varieties and they are almost always pleasingly malty.

>> No.19709574

>>19709570
250g sorry

>> No.19709602

My favorite teas
>Lemon ginger
>Mandarin orange honeybrush
>raspberry pomegranate
>Cherry berry
I don't like caffeinated ones

>> No.19709605

>>19709143
First.

>> No.19709638

>>19709570
The golden monkey looks nice. Thanks for the recommendations, I'll give them a try.

>> No.19709824

>>19709465
Oh yeah that's tough, with 2 grams i would just brew western style in a 6oz mug or something else small. I guess in your gaiwan you would go for 3-4 minutes and then do a second brew for twice that long, maybe a third at 10 minutes

>> No.19710013

>>19709263
for ball oolong the way i like to brew it is with 6-7g/100ml then start with a 50s brew which you can drink, 10s then 20s and so on, this works really well with in a yixing pot too.
another method i've heard about that gives decent results is fibonacchi brewing, where you start with 10-20s, brew the same again then add the last brew time to the current one, so for example: 20s, 20s, 40s, 60s,100s, 160s...
this works well if you want quick sessions but i think the first method gives better results in general.

>> No.19710042
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>5g chinese tea
>10g brown sugar
>100ml water
>200ml slightly frothed milk
>ice

>> No.19710087

>>19709465
Personally I'd do it Japanese style. It's basically the same time as western style, but higher leaf to water ratio. Here it would be something like 2 g tea in 80 ml water and 2-4 min for the first steep.

>> No.19710115

>>19709471
Tanyang Gongfu has some nice dark porter malt if you like that

>> No.19710355
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19710355

got a hario buono stovetop kettle to replace the aluminum camping kettle that ive been using for the past year, really good for the price and its nice to have one that i can use with an induction plate if i want to switch to that eventually

>> No.19710451
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19710451

>construction company spraying water on dirt so that the wind doesn't blow up a duststorm.
>start smelling like a really good Da Hong Pao. All the fruity syrupy flavors and everything.

What I been conditioned to like the taste of actual dirt? Can't even go outside without wet soil smelling like some good puerh or oolong.

>> No.19710502

>>19710451
Anon I think you just discovered the secret to enjoying life.

>> No.19710513

>>19710115
Which one you mean? Google only gives me the Teavivre one.

>> No.19710567

>>19710513
the one I got was from thetea.pl, but I think other versions should be similar, seems to be a pretty characteristic flavor

>> No.19710662

>>19710451
I smelled a nasty farm smell on the breeze the other day and noticed some shou notes

>> No.19710694

(´ω`)っ旦~ Have a tea!!~

>> No.19710699

Drinking the Huey Wa, it's fine, it's very gentle and pretty sweet. It would be a good tea for someone who is worried about young sheng being too bitter.
The Fa Zhan He is the most complex by far, but both the Miyun and the Huey Wa are nice to drink. The Miyun is far and away superior to the Huey Wa in the milder daily drinker category, if you're the kind of person who values the standard characteristics of young sheng, like good huigan and moderate astringency.

>> No.19710700

I'm thinking of remineralising my distilled water, I've never done it before

>> No.19710726

>>19708983
I got a sample of the moonlight white from farmerleaf and it's just fine. I've been drinking a fair of white teas of various kinds and I think I've just gotten used to all of the general tasting notes. They feel more like variations on a theme than genuinely different teas. There's a just a general smearing together of flavors that I think is disappointing considering the variation in material used to make each tea. I'll probably get a twenty year old shou mei and some buds from wild tea trees and then I think I'm done.
>>19710451
Dirt just smells good, you can tell what dirt is good for gardening by how it smells.
>>19710662
Speaking of smells, manure doesn't actually stink normally, it's basically just a clump of cellulose and minerals the cow can't digest. It's the industrial cow dung that's stored and then shipped around that stinks, the cows they get it from have a terrible diet and it's far along the stage of decomposition so it stinks horribly. Day old cow dung doesn't really smell at all.
>>19710694
どうも
>>19710700
If you're brewing with distilled water you definitely need to remineralize it. You really should not brew tea with distilled water.

>> No.19710750

>>19710567
Thanks. Yeah, I know this site. Long ago I went through a lot of the euro sites only to conclude it makes more sense to order from Asia directly. Will keep an eye out on this variety, though. Sounds tasty.

>> No.19710760

>>19710699
yeah I didn't sample the Huey Wa because the comments and description made it sound like it could be a bit boring. I tend to not like very gentle sheng
the only one I got a full cake of is the Fa Zhan He, I thought it had the most going on

>> No.19710781

>>19710726
>They feel more like variations on a theme than genuinely different teas
yeah I've always found white tea a bit underwhelming. it doesn't have the crazy body and funky weirdness of shu, the bite and complexities of sheng, the odd sweet and savory contrasts of japanese greens, the really dessert-like features of chinese black teas... it just lacks that wow factor to me

>> No.19710807

>>19710760
I quite like the huey wa and have a cake on the way, but I couldn't call it exceptional, it just appeals to me in particular

>> No.19710844

Order is going to take 3 weeks shipping instead of the usual 2 i'm so sad :(

>> No.19710899

Drinking an aged factory ripe, one that I know well. I inhaled deeply the leaves in my gaiwan. Now I feel like I understand the old leather bound book note sometimes referred to. Like an old tome that hasn't been opened in decades.

>> No.19710906

>>19710899
what particular tea is it?
only aged ripe I have right now is the 6FTM Tuo from Awazon

>> No.19710911

>>19710906
2009 Xiaguan Xiao Fa. I shill these pretty hard because I love them.

>> No.19710933

>>19710899
yeah that smell kind of like old libraries or cigars, i love it. and with some it seems to creep up the back of the nose after you drink. i couldn't quite work it out yet but i find it more common with wet storage.

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19711188

mayhaps the most delicious tea of all time,

>> No.19711643

>>19710726
>>19710781
I got the white tea sampler from W2T as it was better than paying for shipping and that has been my experience as well. They give you 8 different white teas, and while there's a difference in flavour intensity between them, they all tasted very similar. I was unsure whether this was a W2T sampler thing or white tea thing, but now I'm leaning toward the latter. It also seems to me you can't really brew it as strong as other types of tea, even if you don't mind a little bitterness, as if it just has less flavour to release.

>> No.19711652

>>19711643
yes, it's pretty mild no matter what
I think if I were to buy a white tea, it would be a super cheap one. not that much difference anyhow

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>>19710781
>>19711643
>>19711652
I am going to be the contrarian here and say I really like white tea. I enjoy the fact that it is mellow and easy to drink. However, I have never considered the flavor weak, you can push it pretty hard if you want. It is never going to have the same bitter kick that some teas have, because the chemistry of the tea is different, but I respect it for that. I like other teas as well but I personally don't find white tea boring.

That said a lot of leafy white teas will taste similar because they are similar. Same can be said for a lot of genres of tea. If you want white teas that are more different there is fresh high grade Fujian silver needles which often has some green tea character to it and some of the yesheng or purple white teas can pick up some interesting citrusy notes. I imagine 20+ year aged white tea is interesting as well but I have not had any yet.

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>green tea
>brown leaves

Where can I get some actual quality green teas without any brown leaves? I know I gotta wait till next year to get the good ones, but what sites?

>> No.19711855

Heads up in case anyone here is interested Etsy is giving $5 off $25 or more with code "GET5" until Sep 17 at 11:59pm US ET. There are quite a few good teaware shops on Etsy as well as some good tea shops like liquidproust.

>> No.19711871

>>19711855
Name the teaware shops.

>> No.19711936

>>19711871
Off the top of my head:
https://www.etsy.com/shop/TreasureTeawares
https://www.etsy.com/shop/GraceTeawares
https://www.etsy.com/shop/Tezumi
There are lots of others though. etsy is also a good place to get vintage stuff if you search around.

>> No.19711967

>>19711844
>Where can I get some actual quality green teas without any brown leaves?
Any of the Japanese shops listed in the pastebin for Japanese teas. White2tea sells green teas but only for a limited time in the spring. King tea mall has pretty decent green tea for the money. Yunnan sourcing can be a bit hit or miss but their tea will be fresh.
Always look for shops that list the harvest year of each particular batch of tea, if they don't assume the tea is several years old or more.
Its probably still fine to buy this years greens, thwy wont be at the absolute peak of freshness but they will still be plenty nice.
So yeah check the pastebin, buy from specialist tea shops that tell you when the tea was harvested. It worth the extra efforts fresh green tea is awesome

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>midnight fishing preparation, and green tea
onerivertea's golden green, they reccomend grandpa style
taste is pretty simple, creamy, a little sour actually

>> No.19712464

>>19712296
looks tasty

>> No.19712469

Why do fag women dominate the western tea sector?
>Tea is affordable. A tea bag costs what, ten cents? Is this rooted in the long history of lesbian frugality? From women earning less than men from the beginning of the industrial economy and continuing, today to being discriminated against in the workplace. Women, especially lesbians, tend to make less money than men.

>Queer women also love to critique capitalist consumer society. Combined with ideas about frugality, this makes an inexpensive beverage option like tea very appealing. A lot of our people have issues with a lot of different substances like caffeine, gluten, dairy, meat, alcohol, perfume, air, etc. Tea offers an alternative to coffee, sugar, and booze, for folks on various versions of the No Fun Diet. Plus, tea has the added benefit of a ritualized process — heat the water, wait to boil, wait for the tea to steep. Having tea qualifies as an activity, if not actually cooking.

>> No.19712527

>>19712469
Please don't bully the English

>> No.19712528

>>19709239
I went back to coffee recently. What pu'er are you consooooming
I still got half a cake of my taetea.

>> No.19712537

>>19712528
I have almost finished the fa zuan he cake i got from farmer leaf, really nice tea.
I want to try some Japanese teas but i never actually buy

>> No.19712542

>>19709245
Which blacks? Personally jinjunmei is not very good. It's too cough syrup honey like. A good dian hong definitely has those flavors. Qimen is, just ok.
Pajeet stuff though, Assam black is just raisins, Darjeeling can be a wide gamut since black just means oxidized, but I've had various blacks that are more on the visually greener side. Personally autumn black is the tang maxx choice and it is usually the most looked down upon, probably because it's the third and final flush.

Honestly, I'm more of just a green and oolong (greener the better and usually green tgy is fine and plentiful) fan myself though. Jap green is ok, but it can be a bit much sometimes.

>> No.19712559

>>19712469
females are cancer.

>> No.19712569

8 grams Feenix Princess Dayi. 150ml. 4 mins. thick, rich, dark. very thick. dark color. strong dark cherry notes. sweet. syrupy. no off flavors.

>> No.19712572

>>19712559
Can confirm. The only places I've been to that serve good tea are full of fags or sinobo males.
Thankfully I just drink at home and only have to suffer tea houses when traveling.
BTW I'm in the US, where tea culture is already lackluster to begin with.

>> No.19712616

>>19709123
Ended up getting naked tea horse and the pot.
I assumed you were talking about the horse tribute and I find the naked one a lot more compelling since they say its a high end mid aged gushu menghai and I have quite a bit of young high end young gushu menghai. So it's just interesting to me to peer into a future a little.

>> No.19712619

>>19712616
Nice, which pot did you get?

>> No.19712648

>>19712619
https://essenceoftea.com/collections/yixing-teapots/products/90ml-fang-xia-duanni-flat-shui-ping-yixing-teapot
I was going to get the cheaper shui ping and a hongni to round out my collection a little, but I have a 100ml one and its a little uncomfortable. I think they skimped on clay since its the cheapest pot you can get. (handle too small) This pot looks better aesthetically to me and does have a bigger handle, but I will have to wait and see if its more functional. The colour is also so lovely.

>> No.19712677

>>19712648
Cool choice, i really like the style of that shape. I got a standard zini shu ping from one of his early batches and ive really enjoyed it. Haven't had a chance to try out DuanNi clay yet, seems fun, it looks really interesting with lots of texture and those cool yellow/orange colors.

>> No.19712680

>>19712572
Theres barel tea culture anywhere. i dont even think orientals or asians have tea culture outside of asia. and in UK, their tea culture seems to be focused mainly on tea bags. thankfully i dont suffer at all but now il probably just stink to tea cakes and stop buying samples. I have all these bags of samples that i dont know which ones to pick so i just end up picking off from the tea cake.

>> No.19712694

>>19712677
The colour was one of my main reasons honestly. I was reading up about the clay types and apparently its the most porous.
How old is your shui ping?

>> No.19712697

>>19712680
> I have all these bags of samples that i dont know which ones to pick so i just end up picking off from the tea cake.
I have had this happen before where i hoard samples and don't drink them. I think i have one sample that's like 4 years old that i still haven't touched. I have to just sort of force myself to drink them.

>> No.19712716

>>19712694
>How old is your shui ping?
I think its 3-4 years now. It hasn't really noticeably darkened but it does have some mineral stains on it especially on the underside of the spout. It was pretty dark in the first place so i wasn't expecting anything dramatic to happen. Eventually i will get a nice light colored duani and dedicate it to shu to see if i can turn it brown

>> No.19713237

>>19712569
sounds nice. I think I've seen this one for sale at fullchea

>> No.19713295

what's up with all the hassle in brewing danong / phoenix oolong?
>filling the pot up to the brim with leaves, to the point that they won't even have space to open (seems wasteful)
>oddly specific water pouring technique (why not just cool it?)
>rotating between three cups (fun for three people, but what's the point for one person?)

is it all just done out of tradition?

>> No.19713396

>>19710451
Gardening can smell good for some reason. But the last time I gardened was when I lived in the mountains. Pines and maples everywhere.

>> No.19713403

>>19711814
Why are the leaves fuzzy?

>> No.19713405

>>19713403
because they're buds. tea buds are often fuzzy

>> No.19713447

>>19713403
They are trichomes, small leaf appendages which have many important roles
>protection against UV damage
>protection against insects
>minimize loss of water to ambient environment
Tea trichomes are also thought to synthesize molecules which improve the flavour of the tea. Most importantly for the tea consumer, tea leaf trichomes naturally fall off while the tea leaf is still quite young, making them a good indicator of tea leaf quality.

>> No.19713526

>>19710750
yeah, it's nice stuff. I'm oddly picky when it comes to black tea, but this hits the spot

>> No.19713555

>>19712542
I have to completely disagree with you about Jin Jun Mei. To me it’s damn near perfect except for the unfortunate price tag. That being said it does lack the dark grain taste that I also like. It’s more of a lighter malt. Obviously we have very different senses of taste.

>> No.19713772

Huey Wa update, it's significantly better if you just pack way more leaf in. It's still not a strong tea, but you can pull out much more of the complexity, sweetness, and depth that was there but too subtle before. Really just jam a bunch of leaf in there and it's pretty good.

>> No.19713787

>>19713555
is it true that real jin jun mei is really expensive and most of the stuff on the market isn't trve jin jvn mei??

>> No.19713809

>>19713787
Yes that’s very much true. Even the ‘Jin Jun Mei’ that is sold everywhere tends to be more expensive than other black teas even though it’s not actually ‘true Jin Jun Mei’. It can still be really good though.

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>>19713787
Yes and no. Real brand name jin jun mei is from the company that originally developed it is very expensive. A lot of the unofficial jin jun mei style teas are similar enough to the brand name that I am happy calling them jin jun mei. I doubt just about anybody drinks the brand name stuff and most people are not thinking about it when they say jin jun mei.

Here is a link to the brand name version:
https://lapsangstore.com/products/jin-jun-mei?variant=34624000262293

>> No.19713821

>>19713772
I've heard anon say that about the Bangwai Small Trees as well.

>> No.19713880

>>19713772
>it's significantly better if you just pack way more leaf in.
I do this with most teas desu. Whats your typical ratio?

>> No.19713892

>>19713812
Adding to what this anon said, the original producer (that anon linked) has a series of jun mei teas that are supposedly made just like jin jun mei, but with cheaper material from other regions (so not Wuyi).

>> No.19713906

>>19713880
8g/100mL is pretty normal, I use 6.5g in a "100mL" gaiwan that I just measured on a scale holds 80mL. I put 8g in this time, so 10g/100mL for this brew. A normal brew for me is 5-7g in this gaiwan, a strong brew is usually 7-8.5, and more than that and the tea doesn't really extract properly in my experience. I would go much farther with this though, this tastes more like a normal brew at these ratios.

>> No.19714071

Drinking some some ding dong oolong for the first time.Tastes like buttery green apples. Pretty good, I think I need to drink more oolongs.

what's everyone else drinking today?

>> No.19714079

>>19714071
yeah, dong ding can be fun. usually not too expensive either
I've actually never tried any of the super premium very high mountain taiwanese oolongs. I wonder if they're that much better than the average si ji chuns and jin xuans of this world

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>>19714071
Gunpowder Green brewed in a Keurig because I broke my teapot.

>> No.19714089

>>19714071
dancong, shan cha, bancha and now shu pu-erh
I think I should tone it down a bit desu

>> No.19714144

>>19713295
That's all chaozou brewing autism. Its just a regional tradition.
Feel free to ignore the specific water pouring techniques and the three cups. I think that stuffing the pot with leaves works but you don't have to do that and it's not the only way to brew dancong.

>> No.19714203

>>19714086
>Gunpowder Green brewed in a Keurig
Props for ingenuity I guess. Have you ever tried brewing it grandpa style? That's what I do when I have no teaware.

>>19714089
>dancong, shan cha, bancha and now shu pu-erh
Impressive, watch that you don't turn into a puerh lesbian from all that tea. Also where did you get your shan cha?

>>19714144
>I think that stuffing the pot with leaves works
My thoughts as well. The one important part of traditional dancong brewing is using lots of leaves.

>> No.19714244

>>19714089
>dancong, shan cha, bancha and now shu pu-erh
Nice, thats a pretty respectable pace for the day.
>>19714086
lol, hey it works

>> No.19714274

>>19714203
>Impressive, watch that you don't turn into a puerh lesbian from all that tea
yeah I can overdo it on the tea when I'm feeling bad or bored
the shan cha I got from thetea.pl. I also have one from another site, it's pretty similar. I'd love to find a cheaper source, but they all seem to be a similar price
both the ones I have are very sweet, almost candy-like. probably the sweetest black teas I've had, so I need to be in the mood for them. they also have a fun balance of fruity and gingerbready sorts of flavors, which I enjoy

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Been drinking this. Love it, but it gives me the shits always. Why?

>> No.19714331

>>19714310
stimulants mixed with plant mucilage. pretty common response

>> No.19714344

>>19714310
Maybe the citrus flavoring used in earl grey bothers your stomach.

>> No.19714369

>>19714310
Increased qi flow to stomach

>> No.19714407

>>19714274
>shan cha I got from thetea.pl. I also have one from another site, it's pretty similar. I'd love to find a cheaper source, but they all seem to be a similar price
Yeah its not cheap, what cha has some but its not really low priced either
https://what-cha.com/products/taiwan-wild-shan-cha-black-tea?variant=13675762024503
Global tea hut has it but its expensive
https://globalteahut.org/products/shancha?variant=37664305152159
Also jade leaf
https://thejadeleaf.com/products/shan-cha?variant=5567446275

>> No.19714430

5 days without update after last airplane depart. I hope to receive my tea next week i'm finishing my ailao oolong from winter 2022 after not drinking it for some time i feel and smell buttery like odor it's pretty nice and didn't felt that way before.

>> No.19714439

>>19714274
>thetea.pl
They look like they have nice tea but unfortunately they appear to charge EU VAT on orders to the US for some reason.

>> No.19714486

>>19714439
They have a nice selection but with their prices it probably doesn't make sense to order from them if you aren't located in the EU

>> No.19714563

>>19714439
https://www.pu-erh.sk/ claims to charge 20% VAT for non EU customers as well. Kinda lame overcharging non EU customers to make your EU prices look better.

>> No.19714720

>>19714407
>what cha has some but its not really low priced either

I actually tried that one. Nice buttery/meaty taste that turns into something almost floral by the end of the sip. I won't buy it again even though I like the flavour because it really doesn't last long. I steep Japanese style and the second steep was already weak and the third was water. You could, of course, use more leaf, but that makes the price to performance ratio even worse.

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My new teapot with glass infuser from Aliexpress is so good, much better than the slop sold at amazon with steel filter coil at the spout

>> No.19714923

>>19714810
Those cut glass infusers are pretty good, they probably wouldn't work great for tea dust but for anything whole leaf they seem nice

>> No.19714935

>>19714810
why such tiny holes though?

>> No.19715029

>>19714810
I was interested in those, because I hate cleaning mesh infusors. Is it ok for cleaning?

>> No.19715150

>>19714935
Better at filtering small loose tea bits which tend to break off and float on their own.
>>19715029
They are easy to clean, infuser is like a regular glass cup and the teapot itself has a wide mouth opening, takes seconds to clean.

>> No.19716376

>>19714079
high mountain teas are usually more citrusy and slightly more flowery than those cultivated at lower altitudes
they're different in a characteristic way but I wouldn't say they're better

>> No.19716484

>>19714439
>>19714563
regardless of what they write, EU businesses that charge VAT have the option of applying a zero rate on all goods sold to customers that reside outside of the EU, you can easily find references to this on the
institutional EU websites if you look up "Europe export vat zero rate"
sellers might prefer not doing that for whatever reason, but it's worth sending them an e-mail to inquire about it

>> No.19717066

>>19716484
>EU businesses that charge VAT have the option of applying a zero rate on all goods sold to customers that reside outside of the EU,
Thanks, that's what I had thought which is why it struck me as strange they they did. However pu-erh.sk in particular seems like they intentionally are applying VAT prices globally.
>(Non. EU) countries will get the product prices (incl. 20% SK VAT) that are shown in the shop.
thetea.pl/ is more coy about it.
>For non EU customers and customers from Poland – taxes remain the same as before.
But if you put your location as outside the EU they charge a tax rate that is actually higher then some of the EU members.
>sellers might prefer not doing that for whatever reason, but it's worth sending them an e-mail to inquire about it
Good idea, if I ever am seriously considering putting in an order from one of those vendors I will try that.

>> No.19717085
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Lu'an Gong Jian from the September W2T club. This will be my first time trying it. The dry leaf smells like dried cherries and chocolate.

>> No.19717094

>>19717085
Steamed leaves went really strong and the cherry and after rinsing added in a darker malty element.

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>>19717094
This is using 7g/100ml and boiling water. The flavor is really nice and deep, with the chocolate and malt coming through over the cherry. It's making me think of cherry dark chocolate ice cream.

>> No.19717135

>>19717099
Look quite light for a heicha, interesting tea

>> No.19717147

>>19717099
Certainly has some mouth drying effects over the course of drinking a few steeps but I'm not getting much if any of the bite noted in the write up.
>>19717135
Yeah I'm not sure if he meant that this is straight up maocha that hasn't undergone any postfermentation but would traditionally be sent that route or if this has done that but simply hasn't been basket aged at all yet.

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>>19717147
>>19717135
The leaves certainly look quite fresh.

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drinking shu puer from tiny glass cups has a comfy feel to it

>> No.19717176

>>19717085
They did a fresh liubao in a previous years tea club and a poster really liked it.

>> No.19717323

How many of you own Ritter's Fontana electric kettle? Is it worth the money?

>> No.19717375

>>19717323
>Plastic kettle
>165€
No
I payed $30 for a kettle with a complete stainless steel interior.

>> No.19717764

I want to try boiling hei cha. I'd like an elegant way of doing it, but nothing to fancy. Some of you do it, right? Do you have a glass teapot or something? I only have gaiwans and a yixing
>>19717099
>>19717085
>>19717166
Nice photos lads.

>> No.19717770

>>19717764
I just do it in a cooking pot and then strain it into a glass pitcher

>> No.19717787

>>19717764
Don't do a hard boil, do a low simmer.
If you want you could use one of those glass stovetop kettles or something. I just use a cooking pot. Start out with about 8 grams of tea, bring 1.25 litres of water to a boil, turn down to a simmer, add tea, stir briefly, civer pot and simmer for about 20 minutes. Strain into whatever, i usually judt por through a strainer into a mug and leave the extra in the pot. After you have tried it you can adjust the amount of tea you use if you feel like it.

>> No.19717791

>>19717787
>civer pot
*cover pot

>> No.19717814

>>19717166
Cute little glass. Where'd you get it?

>> No.19717825

>>19717814
aliexpress, like all great teaware
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32828972244.html

>> No.19717827

>>19712469
>fag women in the western tea sector
>eastern tea sector is all yellow fever white guys with asian spouses

>> No.19717875

>>19717827
>eastern tea sector is all yellow fever white guys with asian spouses
Eastern tea sector is all rich Chinese guys that don't drink tea buying and gifting the most expensive teas they can find to each other for prestige reasons.

>> No.19717880

>come to /ck/ to make a troll thread
>there's a tea general
Wtf comfy. I collect yi xing pots I find at thrift stores

>> No.19717893

>>19717880
post pics, there is a decent amout of yixing posting here

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>>19717825
Nice. It reminds me of my little jap glass.

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Bros... I'm-, im uh... IM CONSOOMING!!!!

>DHL delivery today.

Chaozhou... Time to fuck you up by mixing dancong and Sheng together.

>> No.19718156

>>19718126
Damn nice!

>> No.19718161

>>19718126
>Chaozhou teapot
Nice, do you have any other clay teaware? In really interested in hearing some direct comparisons between Chaozhou and yixing or jianshui. Im under the impression that Chaozhou is a fairly neutral clay similar to the red yixing clays but im interested to here what anons experience with it is.

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>>19718161
I have this cheap """yixing""" easy gaiwan that I brought from Amazon. So I will have to try it and compare both with a glazed gaiwan to get a neutral flavor and see how much the clays absorb.

>> No.19718368

>>19714071
>what's everyone else drinking today?
Lapsang souchang from Craftedleaf. I had some hot water left after my gong fu session, so I asked my sister if she wanted some tea. She wanted genmaicha, so I made her some with the genmaicha I got from Mitsuboshien Kambayashi.

Currently eating the brewed genmaicha leaves as a snack.

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>>19718368
>Currently eating the brewed genmaicha leaves as a snack.
Nice

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You HAVE to be fucking kidding me. I was home the whole time and nobody fucking knocked on the door.
I have to reschedule the fucking delivery tomorrow and make it signatureless ffs.

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>>19718479
mine is stuck at customs still

>> No.19718602

>>19718479
RIP
I fucking swear UPS just drives past my house and then marks shit as unable to deliver without even stopping.
I have had good luck with DHL but i dont use them often and some people seem to have crazy issues with them

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>>19718568
Shit, feels bad man. I have other teas I've spent quite some money on and it would suck to have them get delayed on customs. Or have them get broken into...

>> No.19718716

>>19718607
How was the 2007 cnnp? That was a bestseller on YS for years and i could never tell if it was a good tea or just some Russians liked it and told other Russians to buy it.

>> No.19718732

Fuck me is every 2023 raw YS cake 250g? puer is getting expensive way too fast.

>> No.19718797

>>19718732
It’s the cool hip cake size, get with the times gramps.

>> No.19718812

>>19718607
>someone steals your puer cake off your porch
>has no idea what the hell it is
>takes a big bite out of it
>???
>profit

>> No.19718828

>>19718812
>Steals expensive pu’er order
>Bins all the large stuff
>Keeps minituo samples to drink

>> No.19718835

>>19717880
>I collect yi xing pots I find at thrift stores
Nice, I have never been able to find one myself.

>>19718479
>>19718602
Rescheduling delivery/pickup beats losing you package. Someone lost or stole my recent puerh order.

>>19718607
Be sure to tell us how the LBZ is anon.

>>19718732
>Fuck me is every 2023 raw YS cake 250g?
Not all of them but most of his single location gushu cakes are 200g or 250g. You can at least filter by price per gram on YS.

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>>19718812
>takes a big bite out of it

>> No.19719108

I will NOT buy puer cakes that are less than 350g fuck off tea merchants

>> No.19719135

im not interested in your five cake "tongs" either

>> No.19719299

The lesbians filter themselves out. Thanks tea vendors.

>> No.19719820

I bought a teapot recently because I make bad choices and it looked cool, what are some decent loose leaf teas? The only real tea I've had prior has been matcha when I go to the city to hang out with some mates and it turns out that's a powder you whisk in your mug so I'm coming in fresh and don't want to buy a massive thing of loose leaf I may not enjoy a lot

>> No.19719868

>>19718732
literal pu-erh shrinkflation

>> No.19719887

>>19719820
if you like matcha, you might like other japanese green teas like sencha, bancha or gyokuro
or if you want to try other stuff, you can browse the bestsellers on the yunnan sourcing site

>> No.19719895

drinking the FarmerLeaf Fa Zhan He today
it's decided to be savoury again. sometimes it's very sweet instead. pretty crazy variation, I wonder what it depends on

>> No.19720294

How big is the difference between a normal tea in teabags you buy at the local supermarket, compared to all these fancy chink teas you're all drinking? Does good quality unsweetened tea taste any different that just hot water? Do you normally sweeten them or add milk?

>> No.19720311

>>19720294
>How big is the difference
huge, most loose leaf teas don't taste anything like it. unless you specifically seek out the types of tea they use in teabags (and then it's still different)

>taste any different that just hot water
of course though i've heard complaints from people who drink too much sugar water

>Do you normally sweeten them or add milk
normally it's not required and just makes it taste worse, though there's nothing stopping you. some black teas it can be nice

>> No.19720335

>>19720294
Even supermarket loose leaf tastes better than bagged tea.

>> No.19720342

>>19720311
>of course though i've heard complaints from people who drink too much sugar water
I guess I just wanna ask how intense is it? I'm just worried that if I order some of this fancy tea, that it's just gonna taste like water to me.
Also where should I start? If I want something more flavourful and sweet? Any particular type of tea? Does the method of preperation matter much? Do I need anything special other than a kettle and a strainer?

>> No.19720367

>>19720342
it really depends what you get. the gamut is very large. but, you're not going to find anything sugar sweet.
i've never liked sweetened drinks much in the first place so i'm probably not the best person to help, but if i was just starting i'd probably check out the best sellers on yunnan sourcing and pick up some black and oolong tea that sounds nice. you can get some 50g bags for not that much and see what you think. they are not too subtle and maybe hit some familiar notes.

>> No.19720370

>>19720342
You really just need a measuring cup, a kettle, a strainer, and a gram scale if you want to do the gongfu tea process. Otherwise just drop a pinch of tea in a large mug and drink it that way. Of course, your bitterness may vary that way.

Fresh/good quality tea can be intense, I find that adding sugar to it just decreases the flavor it has. But if you fuck up and make it overly bitter you can always add milk and sugar to it. I've done that with all tea types and they work out well enough.

If you want something sweet i recommend Taiwanese oolongs and white teas.

>> No.19720414

>>19720294
it tastes very different
>>19720342
>Any particular type of tea?
chinese black teas are usually sweeter with more dessert type flavors than other blacks
not all oolongs are intense, but most of them are mild, sweet and very different from normal tea
you can try shu pu-erh if you're a bit more brave. if you brew it strong it's almost like drinking an espresso but fermented and doughy
green teas and white teas can be sweet, but I think most of them are pretty mild so I'd stick to oolongs and blacks if you want a more intense experience

>> No.19720418

I've had some fresh green teas that smelled like literal cotton candy, it was weird just how sweet they were.

>> No.19720437

>>19720418
trve bi luo chun is very sweet in my experience
some young sheng pu-erhs are like that too

>> No.19720439

>>19720437
but the most consistently candy-like tea I've had still has to be shan cha

>> No.19720461

>>19719887
thanks for the recommendations I'll take a look and try order some online

>> No.19720479

>>19718732
is this post from 2006?

>> No.19720495

>>19719820
if only there was a wall of text explaining the basics of tea, how to buy it, how to steep it, the different types, the different regions, and this wall of text was in a post that everyone's bound to see in this thread, kind of like a sticky note on a drawer
well, I guess science's just not there yet

>> No.19720621

>>19719820
Are you in in the UK? Order from what-cha
Get a few small portions of tea, a Chinese black tea, maybe an oolong and a Chinese or Japanese green tea. Brewing instructions are in the pastebin.

>> No.19720646

>>19720479
>is this post from 2006?
Puer was still reasonably affordable in the 2010s obviously much more expensive then the early 2000s but there was still plenty of cheap tea out there. Last few years a lot of that has dried up and its been getting pretty expensive, the inflation + new puer bubble + whatever else is going on is really adding up quick.
Maybe its my fault for not switching to buying entirely from third party tea dealers on taobao but i shouldn't have to.

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>18$ for 100 grams of Shou Mei
>best value
idk about this bro

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Just tried La Merced Barbacua, it's a lot like Rosamonte. The barbeque isn't strong but it's more focused and less bread-like. It retains the honey, etc. notes but you have to look for it.

>> No.19720822

Anyone having delay on his order from china or i'm just unlucky this time?

>> No.19720830

>>19720822
Its kind of luck of the draw sometimes. I have something on the way to the US but it seems to be moving normally. You can try putting the tracking # you have into 17track.net and see if they give you more detailed information.

>> No.19720833

>>19720727
Thanks for this, ive been considering picking up a bag. Do you think it's worth the extra cost vs rosamonte especial? I can get them for the same price on amazon but only if i buy 4 500g bags of la merced.

>> No.19720839

>>19720830
Just left main land a week ago and no update since it's already an extra week from my usual delivery time (eu)

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>>19720839
>cargo lost at sea

>> No.19720845

>>19720833
there's an appreciable difference between rosamonte and la merced barbacua, but i'm fine with my one 500g box.
here was my $21.41 order (latin american products)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BCL2XCRZ
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014KSCA14
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006JYGURS

>> No.19720847

>>19720839
Hmm, if it definitely was already put on a plane then there is probably a backup at the international mail processing at the airport in your country. I had packages spend a few weeks at the receiving airport during the batflu shitshow. But typically once its put on a plane it gets scanned in my country in around 48 hours.
I find that the Chinese shipping info is very confusingly worded and always seems to be implying that the package has left china when it actually hasn't yet, so that's another possibility.

>> No.19720849

>>19709143
What distributors do you guys like? I ordered from white2tea in the past and a lot of their teas were very fishy.. i wasnt a fan. Also, does anyone know of any distributors that are currently or will in the near future have a free shipping promo? I want to put in a batch order of teas for the cold winter ahead

>> No.19720881

>>19720849
For cheap tea and sort of cheap shipping fullchea get some 2019 haiwan 9978 cakes or cakes from the other big name factories, stay away from puer in the "other brands" section. Also fullchea has very cheap looseleaf tea, but the cheapest version of any given tea will taste like cheap tea, so think carefully about which teas you buy.
Farmer leaf has free shipping on orders over $35 you might find his typical prices too expensive.
Awazon has cheap old ripe tea but you will pay about $17 for shipping, still worth it as long as you buy a few cakes. Buy tea from other brands and not the teas made by awazon since nobody knows if those are good or not.
Tea-expert.net charges $5 shipping for orders below $75, i think its free after that but im not sure. The site is a Chinese tea shop that ships from china but it is all in Russian because they are his main market, don't worrty about it plenty of us have ordered from him and he is reliable.

>> No.19720883

>>19720839
I am in a similar situation, I think it’s a China internal thing because mid-autumn festival is in a couple of weeks.

>> No.19720975

>>19720847
It just got updated arriving to my country, just longer than usual for some reason. Yes the wording is weird, my package took 4 different planes somehow before even leaving the mainland then no update and get to the processing center of my local delivery service in the same hour somehow but i'm glad it finally got updated even if it's late. With farmer leaf i'm saving time too not having to pay extra import fee at the customs so saving a day or two might have the package before the end of the week.

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Here's some of mine. Used to use the left one daily, the middle is fun to pour, and right is unused. All $5 or under at local thrift shops

>> No.19721003

>>19720822
I've been on a bit of a delay with two orders. Nothing crazy yet.

>> No.19721104

Tell me about decaf tea. How do they decaffeinate it? Will it be bad for me if I drink an absurd amount of it? Currently, I primarily drink tea throughout the day and I'm considering cutting back on the caffeinated stuff to cut my caffeine consumption.

>> No.19721127

>>19721104
they use supercritical co2 like with coffee or a solvent. i don't think it's likely to cause you any harm
i haven't tasted a good one and imo you're better off just swapping some of your tea for non-caffeinated tisanes

>> No.19721256

>>19721104
Only thing you’ll harm is your taste receptors

>> No.19721297

>>19721104
Do you like roasted tea? Kyobancha is probably lowest in caffeine but hojichas in general have very little as they are usually made from leaves picked later in the year. Also a lot of them have a large amount of stems which always have next to nothing compared with leaves. You can buy stems alone too, roasted or unroasted.

Otherwise, what that other anon said, tisanes.

>> No.19721335

>>19721104
The process for decaffeinating tea also destroys a lot of polyphenols and other compounds that give tea complexity in flavor.
So expect some weak tea if you're getting decaf.

>> No.19721458

>>19721335
>destroys
Even better it extracts them and then they sell that extract to supplement manufacturers, at least with the supercritical co2 method.

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It has arrived

>> No.19721505

The gold impression sample arrived open, so an inspections officer took a fatass whiff of that puerh.

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The Chaozhou definitely takes the bitterness out of the Puerh. Though I made a small miscalculation of its size.
Both had ~4.20g of Gold Impression 2023 puerh, but the gaiwan was around 65mL, and the teapot was 110mL.
Next time I'll try it with a 100mL gaiwan. Though I suspect that the answer will remain the same.

>> No.19721569

>>19721567
2022* not 2023

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Added the rest of my tea to the chaozhou pot. Overbrewed it, so I added some sugar and milk to the infusion.

It tastes like candied yam and honey.

>> No.19721632

>>19721488
Nice, i love having a big cup like that for personal sessions. That way i can be lazy and just pour the tea directly in the cup.

>> No.19721641

>>19721567
Thanks for the comparison. Ive found that generally the first say 5-7 brews in a new clay pot will have more of a flavor muting effect then later brews will. I guess you could call that the pot getting seasoned but im not sure if that's what most people mean when they talk about seasoning clay.

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Almost out of what I ordered before. Got a bunch more, including some puer, the descriptions of which seemed interesting (including one saying it tastes like mint chocolate). No more black teas for right now, they were the ones I liked the least of the ones I'd ordered. Also want to try darjeeling at some point but Red Blossom doesn't have it. I think I saw that YS does, or one of the others in the pastebin list.

>> No.19722044

>>19722027
Nice, definitely dont be afraid to spread out your orders to different vendors. Red blossom has good tea but they are on the pricey side and it's good to get a feel for the broader market by experiencing teas from amny different shops.
Is that purple bamboo a green tea?

>> No.19722050

>>19722044
Yeah, says it's a new arrival on Red Blossom. I'm running low on the teas Red Blossom has anyway so next time I order I'll probably try YS. I think they have a lot more teas than Red Blossom does as well.

>> No.19722087

>>19722050
Yeah YS has a huge amout of tea, it can be a bit overwhelming but its also fun to read the different descriptons on stuff. I would start out using their .us website that ships from texas. .com has even more teas but shipping can be expensive so it's better for large orders or buying obscure old puer cakes.

>> No.19722200

>>19720991
I think these are cool. I'd lead test the painted one, desu. They're probably all slipcast, but I don't know shit. Either way I would pick them up if I saw them, too.

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>>19721602
Nice save anon. Sounds good.

>> No.19723092

>>19722027
liu an gua pian is underrated
for gunpowder and shou pu-erh it can be good to get a bigger, pre-packaged option from some big factory once you know you like these teas. both can be great value that way

>> No.19723193

>>19720727
I'm having a cold brew / terere Kraus today, so nothing smoky at all
I like yerba mate as a break from tea

>> No.19723396

I'm still searching for the best value black tea. I'm picky unfortunately, but also frugal.
I'm thinking the Xiaguan hong cha from KTM sounds like good value. Or one of the "classic 58" ones from fullchea. Anyone tried those?

>> No.19723430

>>19723396
Did you try qingxin cultivar into black tea? Tried gushu black tea? They are both on the more expensive side of things but it really taste different.

>> No.19723465

>>19723396
>best value black tea
Wish I could help, anon. I'm looking for the same thing, don't have a lot of experience, sadly.

>>19723430
Sorry to bring up the accursed site, but that sounded a bit like a R*ddit response. C'mon, as interesting as those sound, I doubt anon was looking for something expensive.

>> No.19723484

>>19723430
I haven't tried these. I like some expensive black teas, but I just want that "I paid 15$ for 300 grams of this and it's delicious" experience I have with ripe pu-erh.
I seem to like the sweeter and more intense stuff, not necessarily lighter, fruitier black teas.

>> No.19723498

>>19723396
i was going to suggest the yingpan shan from farmerleaf, but unfortunately it's sold out. presumably they'll get another batch in at some point.
it's 7c/gram which is good value

>> No.19723500

>>19723484
Do you like more malty? chocolatey? Only one close to that price that i drink is the yingpan shan black from farmer leaf, it's good but not "delicious" to me and more on the fruity side too. Can't really help you i think.

>> No.19723523

>>19723500
>>19723498
yeah I think I like more chocolaty stuff. I have the yingpan shan and it's alright but I'd like something more robust, with darker flavors. dark bread, chocolate, caramel, honey etc.
honestly I bought one really unorthodox nepalese black tea some time ago that fits this profile and I might just be craving that again. I'll have to go to that store and check if they still have it. the tanyang gong fu I got recently is also excellent, but definitely not cheap

>> No.19723546

>>19723523
Did you ever tried the gold bi luo chun from yunnan sourcing or the wu liang hong mao feng? i think you might like them especially if you do longer stepping with the bi luo chun you can get deep and robust taste. And they are cheap too.

>> No.19723583

>>19723546
>Did you ever tried the gold bi luo chun from yunnan sourcing or the wu liang hong mao feng?
I actually haven't. Maybe it's high time to finally order from YS...

>> No.19723648

>>19723583
It's nice for cheap blacks just need to find the one you like the most. I just don't like to pay import fees in eu since they don't change the price value.

>> No.19723671
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Just tried La Tranquera Special Selection. It looks and tastes similar to Cruz De Malta. No smoke, bitter, wide leaves. La Tranquera is smoother, wet dirt aroma (petrichor, new word), chocolate, less black tea and less complex than Cruz.

>> No.19723679

i remember many years ago drinking da hong pao "big red robe" and really enjoying it. naturally yunnan sourcing has a lot of options, does anyone have a recommendation for a specific one to pick up?

>> No.19723684

>>19723648
damn, now that I think about it, the import fees might be a dealbreaker for shopping at YS. KTM and FarmerLeaf both reduce the price value by a lot and Awazon was so cheap that I was fine with the fees
maybe I'll just buy something locally for now. still itching for that Xiaguan Dianhong though, that sounds nice

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It tastes awful bros. I picked it up at the grocery store so I could stop drinking the same thing over and over again. I figured since I liked ginger lemon tea, I wouldn't mind this stuff. I'm not sure if I can finish the whole box.

>> No.19723690

So why do people drink ripe puer? I've got this 2004 year, quite good quality ripe puer. It tastes mostly like composted leaves and forest floor. Is this what you like?

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>>19723690
>composted leaves

>> No.19723694

>>19723686
never had good tea involving turmeric

>> No.19723698

>>19723686
>turmeric
id break open all the bags and toss n wash it like a supplement

>> No.19723700

>>19723693
Ye I know, still, I find it hard to believe its the flavor people are after. Is it?

>> No.19723703

>>19723700
ripe puerh isn't that different from regular black tea?

>> No.19723704

>>19723690
there's some variation in ripes to dougy, desserty, woody and fruity notes. and the dank cellar shit if you get wet storage. but yeah if you're not into that kind of profile you probably won't be into ripe

>> No.19723707

>>19723704
Yeah. I was more into pressed white tea from yunnan pu er

>> No.19723740

>>19723690
what puerh is it? what brand? where did you get it from?
I find most decent ripe pu-erh is more in the "fermented cookie dough, dark chocolate and charred wood" range of flavors. you might have some sussy shit that was either overly fermented or kept somewhere really humid. I have one wet stored ripe pu-erh that tastes like a musty old basement with beetroot laying around, but most of them aren't like that

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>>19723740
It's from a tea shop in Finland. This particular tea was in a brick form.

>> No.19723828

>>19723745
it's old enough that it could be the "aged" or "storage" taste you're getting
how are you brewing it? remember to rinse before the first brew

>> No.19723847

>>19723396
Haven't tried that particular xiguan black tea but ive had one of their other productions and i think it would probably be a good choice for you. Also for classic 58 this one is a little more money but its a popular domestic brand in china.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/2019-yunnan-old-tree-black-tea-dianhong-feng-qing-red-tea-cake-357g
Ignore that the web address is different from the product that shows up. Bootleg Chinese websites lol.

>> No.19723853

>>19723828
Yea I rinsed it twice. Had probably 5 g in the pot and steeped it for 20 seconds for the first go and then gradually increased time in subsequent steepings keeping the strength of the tea about constant.

>> No.19723866

>>19723671
Thanks for posting about this

>> No.19723903

>>19723745
ChangTai (the factory that made that brick of tea) is kind of a fun brand, they made a lot of tea back then. They kind of have a distinctive factory flavor which probably isint for everyone, tends toward the rough and tumble smokey side if the spectrum. If you don't love that tea now hang on to it and try it agin in a few months, your tastes might change.
Don't rush out and try a different ripe puer but when you get the chance i would suggest trying a modern factory production before your write off ripe puer entirely. Trying a ripe like that changtai is sort of diving right into the deep end, a modern ripe from dayi or haiwan will bee more chocolaty and sweet, plus cleaner looking with more pretty leaves and less big stems.
Something like this is pretty cheap and accessible
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/haiwan-2019-yr-pu-er-cha-9978-batch-191-shu-puer-te-357g

>> No.19723925

>>19723903
Thank you for your erudite response, sir.

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>>19723690
People drink Shou Puer to get high. Unironically.

>> No.19724182

>>19723847
I notice there is also a smaller, cheaper packaging of classic 58 dianhong, I'm guessing from a different factory?

>> No.19724320

PSA for my fellow europoors! YS haas added and "EU Express" option. You pay the VAT when you order, they send the stuff Belgium and then to wherever you are. It seems ok, tried different combinations and it is just slighty more expensive than Chinapost AIR.

>> No.19724327

>>19724182
>I'm guessing from a different factory?
Yeah im not necessarily saying it's bad but it's kind of a no name production in generic packaging.

>> No.19724328

>>19722200
>probably slipcast
The two non glazed ones are handmade, but maybe using two piece press molds. Haven't really looked at the yellow one but it's a cheapo American company reselling cheapo chinese ones.
T. Potter who only got into tea after making so many teacups

>> No.19724357

>>19724328
i think he meant to say the two non glazed pieces are most likely fake yixing made with slipcasting instead of the traditional yixing slab method (real yixing cant be made with standard pottery techniques). the spouts and handles still have to be put on by hand on slipcasted pots
nice finds though, i never find anything remotely similar in the thrift stores here, ive seen one interesting ~100ml teapot but the design isnt really my thing

>> No.19724366

>>19723903
>>19724182
They don't have either on their AliExpress and my (EU) country isn't listed on ther site. No classic 58 for me, I guess?

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Which is better, the first pot or the third pot?

>> No.19724376

>>19724320
I don't order from them because it's too expensive with VAT and delivery, not because it's too slow.

>> No.19724405

>>19724376
For me it's way cheaper than getting slapped with a 19% on my order's total value (including shipping). For a 500$ order, the shipping is around 60$, whereas with epacket it would be 550$ (incl. shipping) + 19% when it arrives here.

>> No.19724432

>>19724405
I obviously don't know your country' laws, but they shouldn't charge you VAT on shipping. If it's not in the package, it can't be taxed. It could be the customs are breaking the law or that YS is daclaring shipping under package contents, which they shouldn't do because, again, it's not in the package; it's a service that was fulfilled largely outside country's borders.

Either way, I have never and likely never will make such large purchases so all that is irrelevant to me.

>> No.19724484

>>19724432
As far as i'm aware, it;s the same for every EU country.
>In most cases, you have to pay VAT on all goods and services at all stages of the supply chain including the sale to the final consumer
https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/taxation/vat/vat-rules-rates/index_en.htm
Shipping counts as a service, so if you pay for shipping, you have to pay VAT for it too. I think they did this because people would buy products that cost 1$, but the shipping was 99$.

>> No.19724507

>>19724366
>They don't have either on their AliExpress and my (EU) country isn't listed on ther site.
They have a system where you email them with a list of the teas you want and they create a generic listing on aliexpress for you to buy. Selling tea is against the rules on aliex and that's how they are getting around it right now. Kind of annoying but still one of the cheapest China based shops for EU /tea/bros.

>> No.19724539

>>19724484
Dunno, man. I think I was never charged VAT on shipping if for no other reason, then because shipping cost has never been on the outside of the package on any of my orders I can remember (never bought from YS). That said, all my orders are usually under 50€ and customs in my country have a big processing fee so it's not like I'd notice.

>> No.19724552

>>19724507
>Selling tea is against the rules on aliex
How come? There's a bunch of tea listed on there (from Fullchea too), does Ali just suck at shutting them down?

>> No.19724560

Is there any meaningful difference between using black tea that's ground into a finer, more powdery format vs the kind that comes in larger bits?

>> No.19724574

>>19724507
yeah I haven't bought from them ever since the aliexpress store got taken down
the emailing thing sounds a bit annoying, especially since I don't know how much the shipping costs now
do they create a listing that you can pick the teas you want from all do you have to buy everything on the list? cause I'd like to see the price with VAT and shipping before being sure how much I want to buy

>> No.19724580

>>19724560
my understanding is, finer powder means higher surface area so extraction is quicker into the water. generally speaking the bitter and astringent stuff is the slowest to dissolve out the leaf but it goes much faster with smaller pieces. so you'll get a worse brew from the same material.

>> No.19724604

>>19724574
Yeah, I heard about the email thing but had the same thoughts as you. I tend to modify my order a lot until I'm happy with it and that just sounded like it wouldn't work for me.

>> No.19724619

>>19724328
Show us ur teacups m8

>> No.19724696

>>19724552
>>19724574
Goddamn why are your euros so finicky?

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>>19720991
these look really funky. nice
only thing I found at a thrift store was this glazed kyusu by a prolific local potter. his teapots seem to sell for 100-150$ and I got it for 5$, so quite a good buy. it is a bit large for my purposes though, so I mostly use it for making larger amounts of bancha

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>>19724371
I drink the rinse too. What age would that be?

>> No.19724899

For me it's Earl Gray

>> No.19724922

>>19724897
lol

>> No.19725012

im going to have about an ounce of tea tust from all the young raw cakes i just finished off. With my semi aged teas i just grampa brew the dust but i don't think that's going to work with these teas, they are mostly only a year or two old. I guess i will way under leaf my gaiwan and go for flash steeps and see what happens.

>> No.19725042

>>19725012
Are you gonna try making a weird blend?

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I tried Earl Grey again after drinking exclusively Chai for a long time. It tasted gross.

>> No.19725128

>>19725042
Oh yeah i just dump them all together in a tin and shake it up.
Ive had really good luck doing this with the semi aged raws so im hoping this works out. I could probably make less dust overall if i was more careful about breaking up tea cakes but an ounce of dust from about 8 cakes isint too bad.

>> No.19725265

Bought some ku ding pearls at the chinamart. What am I in for?

>> No.19725470

For me it's the Fortnum & Mason Earl Grey

>> No.19725495

>>19724897
Ever stack your tea steeps and enjoy them all at once?

>> No.19725503

>>19725495
This is how I always do it. Like I'm enjoying the heads hearts body and tail all in one afternoon if I tea when I tea.

>> No.19725629

>>19725265
>Bought some ku ding pearls at the chinamart.
Should be fun. Apparently they can get extremely bitter, so you probably want to start out with a very conservative amout and keep steeps really short.
Ive heard rumors that at least on occasion unscrupulous tea merchants have added kuding dust to tea cakes while pressing them to make them bitter and give people the impression they are made with better quality tea.

>> No.19725632

>>19725495
I just go full grampa brewing for months at a time. Not quite the same thing but pretty similar result.

>> No.19726015

I don't know anything about chinese tea, I want to try something that will get me "tea drunk", what should I get? Does that work western style or do I have to learn to brew it chinese style?

>> No.19726049

>>19726015
>tea drunk
Pour five to eight teaspoons of black tea per cup onto the boiling water and brew overnight.
I prefer English Breakfast for this.

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>>19726015
Tieguanyin or Sheng puerhs do the trick for me.

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Long Life Tea: Peppermint, Licorice, Cinnamon, Chrysanthemum, Honeysuckle, Ginseng, Poria
"Over the years many students have asked me to advise them on herbs. Most medicinal herbs and teas should be used only to treat diseases or symptoms and are therefore individualized and not for daily use. Here is a tea that can be used every day to benefit everyone at all times. A good herb shop will be able to compound the proportions for you."

>> No.19726450

>>19726015
any tea with caffeine can give you a bit of a caffeine high. but the type of tea that tends to have a culture around appreciating its effects on your mental state is sheng pu-erh. I always wonder how much of it is self-suggestion, but I haven't tried enough of the expensive stuff to really have an opinion

if you just want to caffeinemax on the cheap, buy a box of temple of heaven gunpowder tea. you can just brew it in the cup

>> No.19726465

>>19726015
For me it's a pretty random experience, it simply either happens or it doesn't regardless of what tea I'm consuming. None of the teas have consistently made me tea drunk every time

>> No.19726516
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What a nice day, huey wa sample and 2 little mistery squares in the other. Not sure what to try first. Yingpan shan black (maybe the last one) Gu wan (but need to drink the small trees at the same time) Fen shui ling and oriental beauty.

>> No.19726517

>>19726516
The two little samples are jingmai miyun 2022

>> No.19726605
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How about a nice PINT of medium low oxidised thai oolong tea with multiple steepings gathered together?

>> No.19726612

>>19726605
chug chug chug

>> No.19726620
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Oriental beauty it is, even if it's raining the taste is always nice.

>> No.19726633

>>19726605
Getting sweaty

>> No.19726651

It they colour the water, they are not depleted yet.

>> No.19726665

>>19726633
Getting cold shivers.

>> No.19726736

>tea is not diuretic
>drink 1 litre of tea
>have to pee
ehm guys...

>> No.19726755
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Anyone know where I can get a 150-200 ml lidded yunomi like pic rel, but plain porcelain and not an ornate vintage piece?

>> No.19726775

>>19726755
>plain porcelain and not an ornate vintage piece?
I’m currently looking for a bento box and my requirements are quite similar.

>> No.19726786

>>19726736
Whoever told you that is simply a liar

>> No.19726855

>>19720495
I truly hope one day you can get science to this point, but I fear that humanity may lack the necessary capacity to do so.
It will be a hard journey you will have to embark on alone, but I have faith in your abilities

>> No.19726946

Does tea make you horny? I'm so fucking horny.

>> No.19727160

>>19726516
Nice

>> No.19727183

>>19726946
only when i add vole blood

>> No.19727195
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Gong dao bei. How big?

>> No.19727211

>>19727195
For me its 200-250ml

>> No.19727215

>>19727195
I just kind of use a half-litre measuring cap from Ikea

>> No.19727240

>>19727215
Based measuring cup enjoyer. Functionally there is no difference to Gong dao bei right?

>> No.19727260

>>19727240
yeah. gong dao bei are usually smaller than half a litre though
but the measuring cup is also handy for cold brewing tea and I use it for serving boiled liu bao as well

>> No.19727270

>>19727260
I want to drink tea fast and when you use boiling hot water you can't drink right away. I like to put many steepings into same measuring cup coz I'm a based degenerate retard and the water will get colder in the large measuring cup.
t. >>19726605

>> No.19727291

>>19727240
Basically the thicker the glass of your pitcher, the more heat it will soak up from the tea. This can be a good or bad thing depending on how you drink.

>> No.19727296

>>19727291
>1 cm thick glass pitcher held in freezer
ah, yes, not too hot tea, just like I want it

>> No.19727330

Is it normal to projectile vomit after drinking a single cup of tea? Today I went to a tea house and had a cup of Earl Grey. Fifteen minutes later an arc of foul brown liquid and the remains of breakfast unexpectedly shot out of my mouth on a very busy street as pedestrians gasped and sidestepped me. Had to take the subway home with a sodden stinking vomit shirt and everyone gave me a wide berth. Should I file a complaint at the tea house for making me sick? It was very emotionally distressing and a bit traumatizing.

>> No.19727333

>>19727330
that's normal after Earl Grey, never again

>> No.19727345

>>19727330
we got another one boys

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>>19727330
>goes to a tea house
>orders earl grey

>> No.19727364

>>19727195
I'd use whichever size can comfortably hold potful of tea as I wouldn't mix steeps. How big that is will depend on your other teaware.

That said, I still haven't pulled the trigger on getting a couple. I'm not yet comfortable buying food contact stuff from Ali, even though I know it's probably fine.

>> No.19727395

>>19726620
that always looks so tasty. gotta pick some up for myself at some point

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>mfw mfs buy perfumed shit teas.

>> No.19727412

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/20/viral-douyin-series-chinese-teapot-escaping-british-museum-film
It ain't fucking fair. I'm buying a yixing teapot right now. I deserve a loyal teapot wife.

>> No.19727413

What does barley tea taste like?

>> No.19727419

>>19727413
it's toasty and comfy. maybe it taste a bit like how popcorn smells when it's cooking. good stuff

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>>19727412
Your yixing wife is built for Big Black Shous.

>> No.19727503

>>19727438
>implying i'm not already a BIG BLACK SHOU Chad.
You non-fermented plebs can't even compare. Your teapot wives are going to weep when they see me impregnating every little pore of my zini wife with my BIG BLACK SHOU liquor.

>> No.19727555

>>19727412
>The editorial cited the recent revelation that an estimated 1,500 historical artefacts have gone missing from the museum’s collection, with some items appearing on eBay. The museum’s director has resigned and a senior curator has been sacked.
what the fuck

>> No.19727562

>>19727330
>he ordered Earl Grey at a teahouse
I like Earl Grey and I still think you're retarded.

>> No.19727577

odds i drink ripe, evens i drink (other) heicha
Also new thread on the way

>> No.19727595

>>19709143
NEW
>>19727593
>>19727593
>>19727593

>> No.19727658

>>19726946
Oh yeah, big time