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19685061 No.19685061 [Reply] [Original]

What is your stance on lab grown meat?

>> No.19685068

Dude, if it tastes like regular meat, why the hell not?

>> No.19685076

It's an experimental product today, but it'll hopefully be revolutionary in a few hundred years. By then it'll probably be cheaper to grow some meat artificially than to go through the process of raising an animal.

>> No.19685082

>>19685061
Id try it if it's cheap and actually tastes okay. The meat at grocery stores is already shit so why not

>> No.19685084

>>19685061
cool concept, buit probably won't be financially viable any time soon, if ever.

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>>19685068
i'm not sure why but this post fills me with disgust

>> No.19685134

>>19685084
idk anon... technology has the tendency of becoming cheaper

>> No.19685136

>>19685084
lol it's gonna be done by a handful of corporations, so government subsidies are pretty much guaranteed, especially since it's (((environmentally friendly)))
which is why i'll never support it

>> No.19685153

i dont care if its developed. i dont care if its sold. i dont care if people eat it. only thing i care about is putting a 500 foot thick wall between lab meat and real meat so there is never any question about what Im being offered. because I will never eat that shit

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>>19685061
>>19685153
>>19685087
>>19685068
Did you know Jack said he would rather die than reduce his meat consumption? This is you

>> No.19685162

>>19685134
Agreed

>> No.19685168

I don't really see how lab grown meat is all that different from eating meat from animals that have been selectively bred for thousands of years.
It's a bit like saying some corn isn't GMO despite being selectively bred for thousands of years.

>> No.19685264

>>19685158
we can revisit the discussion when fake meat grants immortality

>> No.19685267

>>19685068
watch The Stuff from 1985.

>> No.19685268

>>19685158
>Did you know Jack said he would rather die than reduce his meat consumption?
Living up to his word

>> No.19685280

>>19685061
Is it real meat or some plant based imitation?

>> No.19685285

>>19685168
I would eat lab grown chicken as the real thing is made with enormous suffering and tastes like shit anyway.

>> No.19685311

>>19685280
What do you think? Use context clues and critical thinking.

>> No.19685321

>>19685280
feel shame for being this stupid

>> No.19685325

>>19685061
It literally uses cow fetuses to grow that shit BTW.

>> No.19685326

I'd be happy to eat it after they tested it to death

>> No.19685329

>>19685311
>>19685321
no

>> No.19685331

>>19685061
I like that it's cruelity free

>> No.19685334

>>19685325
what the fuck that's more fucked up than real meat

>> No.19685340

>>19685334
no it isn't

>> No.19685343

>>19685061
Does it taste good? Is is comparable in price to real meat? Then I have no problems with it. I don't think we're quite hitting both those markers yet though.

>> No.19685349

>>19685061
I'm not necessarily against lab meat or GMO products but I'm scared of food sources becoming "intellectual property". I don't want to get sued because I happened to slaughter a chicken or grow beans that had lab ancestry.

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>>19685340
Yes it is

>> No.19685355

>>19685340
That's the joke, goober. Do not reply to me again, lest your gooberness rub onto me.

>> No.19685359

I ain't eating fetus paste

>> No.19685403

>>19685325
Just think of it as extra fresh veal.

>> No.19685421

>>19685350
no it isn't

>> No.19685432

>>19685061
Eat it and save the planet, what's not to like? Slava Ukraini and get the booster.

>> No.19685470

>>19685325
>thought this was schizo nonsense
>look it up
>it’s real
what the fuck
https://www.rndsystems.com/products/fetal-bovine-serum

>> No.19685537

>>19685068
The primary driving force of a human is to exert power over those he perceives inferior to himself. Removing the component from your food provides a less satisfying experience.

>> No.19685555

My hope is one day lab grown meat will allow cheap amazing meat to be accessible to anyone.

>> No.19685569

>>19685061
If it's indistinguishable from normal meat then I don't care where it came from. Same taste, same nutrients, all good.

>> No.19685583

>>19685068
>>19685082
>>19685168
>>19685569
>>19685343
Why do these replies feel like it is written by the same person?

>> No.19685584

>>19685569
What if were made from processed feces?

>> No.19685589

>>19685583
lol people cannot have the same opinion?

>> No.19685592

>>19685583
nigger

>>19685584
probably not but lab grown meat is just meat grown in a lab, it's organic

>> No.19685614

>>19685061
>what is your stance on lab grown meat?
no thanks

>> No.19685618

>>19685569
generally meat gets it's flavor from the amount of activity that muscle is used for. this is why gilet mignon is the least flavored meat and brisket has the most flavor.

I would expect it to have very little taste.

>> No.19685627

>>19685618
ai will fix it

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>>19685061
I don't think lab grown meat is realistic
I think that artificial wombs are the real future.
Some argue they will be mainly used for raising humans but the meat industry is the real driving force in artificial wombs

>> No.19685643

>>19685592
>lab
>organic

>> No.19685648

>>19685061
havent tried it, but if it tastes good and is cheaper than id have no problem with it.
I tried a plant based burger patty and it didnt necessarily taste bad but I couldnt get over the fact that I could be eating real meat rather than this alternative.

>> No.19685649

>>19685637
Humanity can't sustain that shit. We don't need more cows, we need more meat, just meat. Cows take up a massive amount of space and is a major source of climate change, not only because forests get harvested to make space for them but also because of their farts

>>19685643
It's all stem cells and DNA famalam. Sure there are a bunch of faggot scientists curating it and it's grown in vats but there aren't a bunch of preservatives and chemicals and shit in it

>> No.19685659

>>19685061
Separating people from the source of their nourishment has created unholy farming practices and a decrease in quality. Plant-based and Lab-grown meat are not a solution, they are the next step of this process

>> No.19685711

>>19685153
totally agree. transparency is key

>> No.19685746

Think its disgusting will never eat it. I am allergic to most types of beans, nuts, all onions, all mushroom, gluten. Its been meat and fish thats kept me alive all these years. But always ethical meat mostly reindeer, some salmon. And no I will never eat some lab-grown slob. Im too old for that thank you. Take your dystopia elsewhere.

>> No.19685768

>>19685659
We need to reverse the process.
People should be able to eat all the meat they want as long as they raise animal and then butcher it themselves

>> No.19685774

>>19685649
if we can have cow farms, we can have girl farms.

>> No.19685785

I hate the antichrist

>> No.19685788

>>19685569
>same nutrients
This is what concerns me. It's less nutritious, it doesn't produce the same things real meat has like the more digestible heme iron, and companies are trying to say this is actually a good thing.

I think even if you like the idea, you should be concerned that companies are trying to pass off a less nutritious product as superior. Lab-grown meat has the potential to be great and cheap, but the people making it need to be scrutinized to make sure we don't basically end up with less nutritious junk food.

There are already problems with food being less nutritious because of the soil being depleted. And less nutritious processed junk food is already a big reason why there is an obesity crisis with people needing lifesaving medical care at younger and younger ages. When food is less nutritious people tend to overeat because their body is craving more than calories, it's also craving nutrients. Replacing meat with yet another less nutritious processed food isn't going to help any of that.

>> No.19685819

>>19685325
WHAT? This is disgusting

>> No.19685848

anti

the end goal is to make it so the global meat supply is entirely controlled by biotech gigaconglomerates
once they hold the keys to the kingdom they can make the meat as expensive or non-nutritious as they want

you should fight against this with everything you have

>> No.19685853

>>19685061
Based: no factory farms and no bugs. And I can eat people without killing them.

>> No.19685857
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19685857

bruh, this looks like a nice farm

>> No.19685862

>>19685325
Cool, and with genetic testing, they can abort the shitty fetuses to harvest serum from, giving us that can afford real steak Mübermensch flesh.

>> No.19685865

>>19685583
>five people all said that 2+2=4, this is suspicious
Yeah, retard, that's because that's the rational fucking answer. What, are you mad that they're not expressing kneejerk chemophobia?

>> No.19685875

>>19685788
You're right, but it's so fucking hard to have these conversations in a calm and nuanced way because of fucking whackjobs like the post above yours.

>> No.19685879

>>19685649
>Sure there are a bunch of faggot scientists curating it and it's grown in vats but there aren't a bunch of preservatives and chemicals and shit in it
There absolutely 100% will be

>> No.19685955

>>19685857
shut up

>> No.19685960

>>19685061
Same as for lab grown fish, bread, vegetables and fruit. They're shit. They taste like shit, they're not nutritious and are often harmful/cause allergies.

They are developed by large companies to serve large company interests. They need to grow fast, transport well and have long shelf life. That's it. Taste, comfort, bonding, nutrition and quality of life are irrelevant in this equation. That's why I don't buy farmed salmon, hormone meat, water-grown tomatoes and it's also why I'll never buy GMO/lab-grown meat.

>> No.19685970

>>19685061
Well I'd rather eat this than fake soy meat that's for sure.

>> No.19685978

>>19685848
So unlike now where most of it is controlled by the same 5 giga food and fastfood conglomerates?

>> No.19686400

>>19685470
what happens if i inject this into my veins?

>> No.19686434

>>19685061
It's exciting! The food supply has been pozzed for generations! PC Master Race printed meat will be a relief!

>> No.19686439

>>19685848
I will vote for the cops to kill you if it means I get to play with modular Impossible Creatures meat

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>>19685978

>> No.19686540

>>19685960
>Same as for lab grown fish, bread, vegetables and fruit.
Where can I read about this "lab grown" stuff that's available today? Fish need to be bred, vegetables and fruit are still farmed. Bread sounds hilarious to call "lab grown" but sure.

>> No.19686681

>>19686537
The Cowboy on right would be a mexican working the meat plant in reality.

>> No.19686732

>>19685061
I always think why don't they just make ready to cook seitan 1/5th the price of meat like it should be instead of 3x

The fact that they don't makes me think all corporate pretense of animal welfare is fake

>> No.19686751

>>19685325
>It's just a fetus bro. The cow has bodily autonomy. If it wants to terminate its pregnancy so the foetus can be used to grow burgers then why not?

>> No.19686766

>>19685068
fpbp
brainlets btfo

>> No.19686787

>>19685061
I'm sure it'll be fine until some prion-like taint guarantees no one will ever want to see it anywhere near them (reasonably).

At this point small scale husbandry is more trustworthy and even those yokels will trust a (((vet))) with a series of syringes.
Wild Game meat is the best way.

>> No.19686799

>>19686787
>Wild Game meat is the best way.
Wasn't there an issue recently with deer having some horrible contagious disease?

>> No.19686819

>>19686787
yeah was gonna mention this. at some point they're going to have lab-grown prions and nobody will go near the stuff for at least a generation

>> No.19686825

>>19685061
Do you think the Jews ate meat the Nazis 'created' for them?
So why should I eat meat the Jews are labbing up for me?
>>19685068
Taste is irrelevant.

>> No.19686838

>>19686825
>Do you think the Jews ate meat the Nazis 'created' for them?
>So why should I eat meat the Jews are labbing up for me?
what kind of argument is this

>> No.19686873

>>19686825
Holy shit Timmy, that's enough internet for today.

>> No.19686922

>>19685068
Retard

>> No.19686928

>>19685061
>>19685068
too expensive

>> No.19686978

>>19686928
pretty much this, and if it can meet the same dietary stuff as regular meet without giving me cancer or some shit but that's probably gonna be in 2069 when we're all drowning

>> No.19687034

>>19685061
Im not normally one to go "it aint natural!" but this is one of those cases. Horrors beyond our comprehension & whatnot. It never was anything before it became a packaged food product, unironically soulless

>> No.19687163

It's just not going to work for a very long time, and when it does it will be shit not fit for human consumption like the vast majority of heavily processed food.

>> No.19687167

>>19687034
>Horrors beyond our comprehension
I feel that way about factory farms

>> No.19687169

philip k dick was right and grows righter with each passing day

>> No.19687213

>>19685537
"I don't want to know what Dinosaur tasted like" sounds like a fucking pussy bitch ass take from someone who apparently cares about muh superiority. Retard.

>> No.19687222

>>19685061
I would try lab grown human meat.

>> No.19687248

>>19685537
What a simpleton take, not only the majority of people just buy their shit without an ounce of exerting any power over anything aside from throwing money on the counter, what is more dominating than fucking printing the bovine meat from its fetus material?! Like you can't fuck the cow harder, you showed it who is god and who isn't, well if it could comprehend any of it, but as I see humans don't necessarily either.
That said I don't want that shit on my plate

>> No.19687254

>>19687222
but you'd never know if you were being lied to

>> No.19687292

>>19685061
If it's indistinguishable from regular meat and it's cheaper I will buy it. Same as the stance on plant based actually but as yet they're not even close.

>> No.19687316

>>19685061
>Environmentally friendly
These hipsters really think cow farts are hallocausting the ozone layer and make the entire world raise by ten degrees but don't take into account that most US is from fossil fuels ESPECIALLY coal. And then they act like bird-grinder wind turbines and solar panels that leak heavy metals are better than nuclear.

>> No.19687380

>>19687316
methane is 20X more insulating than CO2

>> No.19687535

>>19685537
You should not be allowed around other people.

>> No.19687551

>>19685061
No problem as long as
>it's nutrient profile equals 1:1 with real animal meat
>doesn't have substitutes such as bullshit margarine oils or additives
>isn't carcinogenic (which the "scientists" will find out after 15 years from the public release)
>is actually cheaper than any meat or any other protein product available
I don't think it will work because these things are always going to get jewed by the calitalists. What happened to all those other vegetarian meat substitutes? They are all more expensive or as pricy as the real meat...etc

>> No.19687554

>>19687380
Companies are using methane as fuel for rocket planes
We have to give up meat so the Kardashians can go on vacation to Europe faster

>> No.19687561

>>19687551
>doesn't have substitutes such as bullshit margarine oils or additives
They're trying to make milk in a similar way. But one company said they can only make the protein so they're going to add refined sugar and vegetable oil. I don't think that's healthy.

>> No.19687581

If meat was meant to be grown in a lab, God would have given us that power from the get-go.

>> No.19687590

>>19687581
We did have the brains to do it. Just not the tools. Checkmate.

>> No.19687680

>>19685068
People will get angry, but this is an entirely reasonable post

>> No.19687864

>>19687213
The dinos are all dead, I'm superior to them well enough.
>-b-but birds are dino ancestors
Yeah I eat birds.
>b-but tigers and shit
You almost extinct by human hands? Lmao.
>g-guns don't count
Fuck off.

>>19687248
The power is exerted from raising them for our pure greed of enjoyment. Lab grown meat from fetuses is an abomination, it's just an empty vessel which didn't get to live to be reaped. Literally soulless. Rapists wouldn't enjoy banging braindead human clones, there's a power element to it between two functional people.
>did you just compare yourself to rapists?!
Yes.

>>19687535
Don't worry, laws and social regulations are enough to not ruin someone's life on a daily basis. There's also only so much you can be arsed to do.

>> No.19688225

>>19686681
Anon, either you think Bill Gates is a cowboy, or you don't know your left and right.

>> No.19688229

>>19688225
kek

>> No.19688824

>>19685061
i dont mind it exclusively in the case of me getting to try exotic meats i wouldn't normally have access to for whatever reason. human, bald eagle, penguin. hell, they could probably make some wooly mammoth steaks out of a tissue sample from those frozen ones we got laying around, right?

>> No.19689832

>$40,000 an ounce, currently
>can't get the urea out, so they need to turn it into pink slime
Keep sinking billions into this Bill Gates. You already lost billions on your idiot pea mayo and billions more on fake meat.

>> No.19689886

>>19686540
>Where can I read about this "lab grown" stuff that's available today?
They don't actually grow them in a lab. Lab space is too expensive.
But it's really shorthand for varieties of things that are developed for maximum mechanization and productivity. The downside was that they bred out flavor, and then wondered why consumers weren't happy. (Idiots.) So now they're starting to breed for flavor and so on too; for example, not all commercial tomatoes are worthless any more.

>> No.19689893

>>19685061
Semetic slop for goyim

>> No.19689916

>>19685061
the op is a shill that wants others to eat bugs.
why not shill this crap to orcs and hook noses? get them to eat the bugs

>> No.19689920

>>19685350
based counter to the shill pepe.

>> No.19689921

>>19685432
post your hook nose

>> No.19689924

>>19685848
>you should fight against this with everything you have

should have said this to the foreign invasion the past 40 years.
notice how you have less choice and less freedom as there are more foreign invaders around?

>> No.19689945

>>19687316
it's just another cult to them. a gaia cult where they worship (mother earth). they should preach their bs to the nigger neighborhoods. clean up those neighborhoods

>> No.19689946

>>19687380
pseudo-science

>> No.19689953

>>19689921
That was obviously a sarcastic post making a joke.

>> No.19690024

>>19689916
What bugs you fucking retard?

>> No.19690055

>>19686928
It will get cheaper very quickly as the lab grown stuff grows to replace industrial farms and unsustainable fisheries. Stuff like tuna and salmon will drop incredibly fast because you're only paying so much for it now because they're going extinct

>> No.19690169

>>19689953
>>19690024
>reee in yiddish

>> No.19690247

>>19690055
it won't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0zCf4Yup34

>> No.19690319

>>19690169
you must be 18 to post on this website

>> No.19690474

>>19685061
it's a lie to trick you to settle for plant and bug based processed slop. nobody is ever going to synthesize you a steak.
>>19685068
it wont taste like 'regular meat'. there is no such thing as a 'regular meat' flavor.

>>19685087
because your brain recognizes both posters as disingenious shills. As any good cook knows, the flavor of 'meat' varies between cuts, and it varies because of how the animal was raised, what it ate, and what breed it is. Theres no such fucking thing as meat flavor. There will never be such a thing as meat flavor. Its an empty marketing term to trick retards.

>> No.19690477

>>19685061
Unless it's cheaper than the real thing (it's not), more efficient to produce (it's not), and at least as good (it's not) then I don't give a fuck about it.

>> No.19690495

>>19687554
nta but burning methane is good actually, since you're turning it into co2, which is less harmful in the atmosphere than methane is.

Using cow farts as a reason to ban beef is still retarded though

>> No.19690517

>>19685061
Pipe dream. Lab grown meat requires microscopic control of gas exchange and fluid dynamics. It requires medical grade bioreactors and all the infrastructure and trained lab techs for them to appear out of thin air. It requires growth media a second set of the exact same infrastructure to create just the growth media for those cells.

>> No.19690571

>>19685583
JIDF, Russian internet agency.

>> No.19690714

>>19685076
>Hundred years
More like 10-20 years.

>> No.19690722

>Requires donor cells rarely from an animal that will experience minor discomfort once in it's life and live in nature afterwards
>NOOOO THATS STILL HECKIN' EXPLOITATING ANIMALS THATS NOT VEGAN BRO YOU'RE A HECKIN' MONSTER NOOOOOO

>> No.19690777

>>19685637
>Be ungulate
Atrophied lab meat discarded
>Be ungulate
>VR headset treadmill lab meat
>Everything's great
>Phone rings
>Hello, Neo. Do you know who this is?
Which pig has it better?

>> No.19691017

>>19685061
probably going to give people cancer

>> No.19691024

>>19690517
But muh science meat! People are retards and don't think about everything you mentioned. I know vegans whose diet is 50% packaged processed slop. I didn't realize sodium benzoate was vegan.

>> No.19691502

>>19691024
>I didn't realize sodium benzoate was vegan
rocks and tubes aren't animals?

>> No.19692056

>>19691024
Lab grown meat (currently) is not even vegan.
They use FBS (Fetal Bovine Serum) for the growth base. There are ways to substitute FBS with a vegan alternative but it is a lot more expensive

>> No.19692075

>>19685061
Its people

>> No.19692219

>>19685068
fag

>> No.19692247

>>19685061
if it costs cheaper than meat (it won't) and tastes 95% the same (it also won't), then its okay

>> No.19692358

>>19690722
It’s literally cancer. If you want to eat tumors, go for it faggot

>> No.19693211

>>19690247
EVERYONE itt needs to watch this video. Lab grown meat is a joke. Unsustainable and expensive. Can only grow one type of cell at a time, making it cell slurry and not meat. Mining ops for the steel and materials make it worse for the environment than just raising cattle.

>> No.19693364

>>19685061
Mankind's desire to play God is as hilarious as it is pathetic

>> No.19693380

>>19693364
It's endearing too

>> No.19693544

Fuck Technocrats, fuck their arrogant abominations and fuck social engineering .

I would rather it all ends up in chaos and violence until humans revert to the middle ages rather than see this WEF morons and
Megacorps succedding in their plans.

>> No.19693779

Funny how the dumbest most violent posts in these threads also always come with the worst grammar and spelling.

>> No.19693785

>>19693779
no it isn't

>> No.19694232

>>19685061
Stem Cell Biologist here, the problem with generating cultures of lab grown meat is the lack of heterogeneity in the cell types you can produce. It's the same issue that prevents us from producing fully funvtional whole organs in the lab.
Sure, we can generate myocytes (muscle cells), but can you also produce the adipocytes (fat cells) cells that give rise to all the gristle, the extracellular matrices and everything else that makes meat - meat both in a textural sense and otherwise?
What you're realistically going to get is myocytes with a bunch of other "junk" cells that are unintended byproducts of the differentiation process (since it's by no means even close to being worked out at this point in cellular-based tech). You might get astrocytes, glial cells etc. all mixed in with your intended product.
tl;dr we're still a ways off

>> No.19694236

>>19694232
>>19693364
Speaking of which. I've generated beating heart cells that all undulate in a sheet-like fashion and have held it in my hand. How's that for playing god?

>> No.19694273

>>19694236
Omg! I love soyence!

>> No.19694290

>>19685061
If it tastes good and is safe and affordable, I’m all for it. Animal suffering isn’t great.

>> No.19694311

>>19685168
>Meat is only grown by a few elite megacorps
>Corporations will always do whatever the government tells them to

Enjoy your T-bone vaccination.

>> No.19694317

>>19694232

Take my upvote and get out!

Edit: booped the snoot

Edit 2: thanks for the gold!

>> No.19694332

I’m vegan and I wouldn’t eat this shit, I’d never trust anything grown in a lab

>> No.19694347

>>19687167
The modern meat industry is literally demonic

>> No.19694386

>>19694273
>>19694317
go be a christcuck somewhere else

>> No.19694396

>>19685583
Because they were. They can change an ip but they cant fix that revolting syntax

>> No.19694420

>>19694273
>>19694317
Genuinely, huh? I was just trying to provide some info as an academic? What's your major malfunction?

>> No.19694422 [DELETED] 

>>19694386
It has nothing to do with Christianity. If he knew anything, he'd know what since 2001 we've been reprogramming fribroblasts and skin cells from adult humans into a luripotent state. No embryonic SCs involved. iPSCs are like 95% of stem cell research at this point. I've never worked with ECs in nearly two decades of research. Shows what you know you dumb pretend christian trump tourist.

>> No.19694426

>>19694386
No sir, i only believe in science. I even suggested to my wife and xer boyfriend to name their daughter Tesla

>> No.19694427

>>19694386
It has nothing to do with Christianity. If he knew anything, he'd know that since 2001 we've been reprogramming fibroblasts and skin cells from adult humans into a luripotent state. No embryonic SCs involved. iPSCs are like 95% of stem cell research at this point. I've never worked with ECs in nearly two decades of research. Shows what you know you dumb pretend christian trump tourist.

>> No.19694430

>>19694427
*pluripotent* Sorry.

>> No.19694433

>>19685068
Because the bug thing got boring and I need something else to wake up mad about

>> No.19694434

>>19694426
Fuck off to /pol/ if you don't want to actually stay on topic faggot

>> No.19694496

>>19685061
lab grown meat i'd rather suck lab grown cock and penis and shit fuckj that not til the day i die

>> No.19694536

>>19694232
>myocytes (muscle cells)
>adipocytes (fat cells)
what is the added benefit of giving us the technical term and then translating it into normal speak
are they specific fat and muscle cells?

>> No.19694562

>>19694434
Yikes! Who hurt you?

Imagine getting this mad just because i am proud of my wife and my trans vegan stepdaughter

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>>19685061
Not lindy. 99% of scientists today should never have stepped foot in a university. "Food scientists" are less conscious than chatgpt 3.5.