/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.19601722]

Why do people in the first world buy ultra-pasteurized milk?

[Anonymous No.19601726]

>>19601722
well it behaves like fatt cause the proteins unfold in a line maybe to starve kids.

[Anonymous No.19601741]

>>19601722
lactose intolerance

[Anonymous No.19601742]

Because greedy farmers, supermarkets and retarded people that leave fresh milk out for weeks have ruined it for everyone else

[Anonymous No.19601746]

>>19601722
because it lasts longer. I could never use up 1L of milk within a week or less. I tried the most expensive fresh milk recently. tastes so much better but it makes me fart a lot

[Anonymous No.19601754]

>>19601726
Are you having a stroke?

[Anonymous No.19601757]

Is there any evidence that unpasteurized milk is any better than pasteurized milk? It always just seems to be schizo pseudo science with "microbes" and other pointless shit.

[Anonymous No.19601758]

>>19601722
Because that's about all they sell.

[Anonymous No.19601909]

>>19601722
Because pasteurization machines are extremely expensive so only corporations can really afford them. Mandating pasteurization through legislation is how the mega corporations pushed the small, local farmer out of the dairy industry.
>>19601742
>It's the greedy farmers
cool story rabbi
>>19601746
>Shelf life
Modern refrigeration makes this a non issue
>>19601757
Yes but you're retarded so talking to you about biology is pointless.

[Anonymous No.19602029]

>>19601909
I was including the supermarkets. Anyone can neglect the cooling chain for some extra profit

[Anonymous No.19602071]

>>19601722
They hate their children

[Anonymous No.19602124]

>>19601909
>Modern refrigeration makes this a non issue
fresh milk spoils in 2~3 days inside a fridge

[Anonymous No.19603351]

Are people in this thread pretending they don't know there is a difference between pasteurized and ultra-pasteurized?

[Anonymous No.19603381]

>>19601757
>answer me now
>but dont answer me with ideas i've already arbitrarily dismissed!

[Anonymous No.19603399]

>germ theory deniers getting mad about pasteurization
olol

[Anonymous No.19603857]

>>19603399
That’s all you need to know they’re like 9/11 truthers or the earth is flat people just completely deluded and senseless to try to talk to

[Anonymous No.19603879]

>>19603399
>>19603857
Blue cheese, sourdough, and sour beer all include wild microbes

[Anonymous No.19603929]

>>19601722
Because we don't want food poisoning.

[Anonymous No.19603939]

I got a stronger allergic reaction to lactose-free milk a month ago. It sucks. Now I have to try and find vegan "cheese" that doesn't suck (not possible). I'm gonna miss dairy. Fuck

[Anonymous No.19603953]

>>19602124
It takes at least a week for it to get to your grocery store.

[Anonymous No.19603956]

>>19601722
I was told growing up that it is the law, and that law was made to protect us because before we discovered pasteurization people died from food poisoning all the time. I never really question it most of my life till I did a study abroad and ate some un-pasturized stuff. It was like finding out I have been eating trash my whole life. Now I drive across state lines and pay extra to get unpasteurized and raw foods. I've seen some remarkable health improvements but get push back from people telling me I'm risking my life with such reckless behavior. Never tried unpasteurized milk given the place I go doesn't even carry it and I now have really bad milk allergies I got in my early 20s. Also I suspect part of it is that the name is very misleading as some I talk to think pasteurized means the cows get to freely roam a pasture and eat fresh grass. Most don't even know what we do to food anymore.

[Anonymous No.19603960]

>>19603879
All of those things have a dominant culture introduced (same as yoghurt). They're not just left to collect & incubate any old random microbes.

[Anonymous No.19603964]

>>19601742
>>19601746
>>19602124
What do you niggas even mean with 'fresh' milk, is that raw milk or regular pasteurized (not ultra)?

[Anonymous No.19603970]

>>19601726
horrible ESL post

[Anonymous No.19603972]

>>19603964
Milk that came out of the cow, recently. The fuck you mean 'fresh', my nigga? What makes something fresh other than that?

[Anonymous No.19603979]

>>19603972
That definition doesn't make it unpasteurized, right? Speak fucking clearly. Milk that has not been pasteurized is called either 'raw milk' or unpasteurized milk'.

[Anonymous No.19603985]

>>19603979
Nigga you're the one who's assigning specific meaning to a word that doesn't have it. Under what context does "fresh" mean anything other than recent production?

Fresh fruit? Picked recently.
Fresh meat? Butchered recently.
Fresh milk....?

Go be a pedant somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.19603986]

>>19603985
No I'm using clear, industry relevant terminology.

[Anonymous No.19603989]

>>19603986
You're either retarded or pretending to be retarded, but in either case I'm done replying to your stupid ass.

[Anonymous No.19603995]

>>19603989
Fine by me, since you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

[Anonymous No.19604012]

>>19603986
go be retarded somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.19604083]

hahaha samefag

[Anonymous No.19604088]

[Anonymous No.19604161]

>>19603979
>oey vey goyim, you cant call fresh milk fresh, you have to give it a negative connotation and call it raw because westerners hate raw food and this is how we manipulate their thoughts: through manipulation of language :^)

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[Anonymous No.19604328]

>>19604161
retard

[Anonymous No.19604340]

>>19601722
>>19601726
>Lust provoking image

[Anonymous No.19604376]

>>19603956
People were frequently getting poisoned... after the advent of industrial farming in the late 19th century. Because the conditions were so bad, the cows would get sick/infected, their poisonous milk would be mixed in with all the other milk, and it would be sold. Thats actually pretty much still how it is today. You dont have that problem with more ethical small-scale farms.

[Anonymous No.19604547]

>>19604161
based

[Anonymous No.19605158]

>>19604376
Thanks that makes sense. Heard similar things with bakery making bread as they moved from small towns to cites as bread became a commodity. Would think many foods had similar problems as market forces at the time really pushed for high volume at low price which lead to all kinds of bad stuff.

[Anonymous No.19605312]

Fookin morans

There's
>RAW, aka Russian roulette in a glass, untreated and potentially LETHAL and goes further south with every passing hour
>HTST, aka Pasteurized, 72°C for 15 seconds, minor nutrient loss, potential remaining contamination and easy recontamination, has a shelf life of 10-20 days
>UTH, aka Ultra-Pasteurized, 138°C for 2 seconds, this denatures the whey protein, nukes contamination and prevents recontamination and has a shelf life of 30-90 days

Either three can be "fresh", the latter two when you drink right after the process.

[Anonymous No.19605341]

>>19601722
For many years I exclusively drank UHT milk because it was what I was brought up on. More recently I realized that non-UHT pasteurized milk tastes a bit better and is actually cheaper, so I just go for that since I always use it up before it spoils.
I feel like very few people drink it here though, the section for it in shops is very small comparatively. Most people drink UHT or get unpasteurized milk from a vending machine.
Also I find it very funny how that pic abbreviates ultra high temperature to UTH.

[Anonymous No.19605385]

>>19603964
I'm talking about this. best milk I've ever tried

[Anonymous No.19605407]

>>19601758
>this
It's next to impossible to even find whole milk at the store anymore, let alone whole non-ultra pasteurized milk.

[Anonymous No.19605411]

>>19603857
>9/11 truthers
So people who aren't retarded?

[Anonymous No.19605442]

They sell unpasteurised microfiltered milk everywhere here. Just drink it relatively fast and don't if it smells bad. Only a retard, a soyboy or a nigger could get sick from microfiltered milk.

[Anonymous No.19605911]

>>19605312
finally someone who isn't a retard

[Anonymous No.19605915]

>>19605407
OP is about first world countries

[Anonymous No.19605965]

>>19601722
I have always drank UHT milk so I thought that is how milk supposed to taste like...but since I have a taste of real milk, everything changed, fuck uht, real milk are creamy, sweet and delicuous. Fyi, uht milk is bland and much more watery

[Anonymous No.19606009]

>>19605312
>Russian roulette in a glass
so were you trying to make it sound awesome or was that an accident

[Anonymous No.19606068]

>>19601722
Smash or pass bros?

[Anonymous No.19606140]

>>19601722
I simply like the taste

[Anonymous No.19606156]

>>19606140
drinking UHT milk right now. tastes good

[Anonymous No.19606175]

He originally called it “Louization” but was eventually compelled to change it.

[Anonymous No.19607402]

>>19601722
Because Jews banned raw milk in my fucking country

[Anonymous No.19607410]

>>19601722
Rotschildt told us to.

[Anonymous No.19607592]

>>19607402
Surely you have regular pasteurized?

[Anonymous No.19608878]

>>19601722
b-but the bacteries

[Anonymous No.19609655]

>>19601741
This. This is the only reason I buy it.

[Anonymous No.19609656]

>>19601722
Da guhbermunt!