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19517323 No.19517323 [Reply] [Original]

If you aren't down to drink any brand or style of beer at any time, then you're not a REAL beer drinker.

>> No.19517368

>>19517323
The only time a beer is tasty is after busting ass in the hot sun all day. Any other time beer tastes like shit. Either way drinking alcohol for taste is for liars. Slam six shots of bottom shelf whiskey fast enough to not taste it and you'll be a real drinker.

>> No.19517387

>>19517323
I've got a brand called "Closet's Finest", comes in a 5 gallon bucket. You're not a real beer drinker if you won't drink it.

>> No.19517392

>>19517368
You've never had good beer. You probably think beer is filtered lager and shitty IPAs. Come back when you've tried witbier, hefeweizen, marzen and Trappist ale.

>> No.19517412

>>19517392
I've had those. I still prefer a good filtered lager preferably from Czech most of the time. Maybe you never had a good lager?

>> No.19517417

>>19517412
Märzen is a type of lager

>> No.19517573

>>19517323
Is this your new ad campaign, Bud Light?
>p-please don't p-pay attention to brand!

>> No.19517618

>>19517392
american

>> No.19517720
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>> No.19517772

>>19517323
I just don't drink garbage brands like bud Coors, natty, new castle, or the rest of the piss watter boomer beers.

"Hey want a coors"?
"No thanks I'll just drink water"

>> No.19517914

>>19517323
>If you aren't down
Translation: you're hanging out with people and they offer you some shitty macro-lager and you'd be a fag to refuse.

That's not the same as being okay with drinking whatever beer you're given at any time if you just tell someone to surprise you. I would never order a fucking bud light or natty ice or whatever. I would prefer not to spend time around people who buy shitty macro-lagers and sit around drinking them. There's so much good beer out there at this point that if you're buying one of those beers I don't think you can possibly call yourself a real beer drinker, because nobody who is really into beer would waste their time on something so mediocre.

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19519729

Does the Discord group still exist? I distinctly remember there being a /ck/ beer Discord server with at lest one pathalogical retard in it.

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>>19517412
German (specifically Franconian) lager is superior to Czech lager in every way imaginable. Stop parroting the opinions of random internet nobodies.

>> No.19519748

>>19517720
not really how that works

>> No.19519757

>>19517914
>Translation: missing chromosomes

>> No.19519888

>>19519748
It really is exactly what the original post is doing you spastic

>> No.19519903

>>19517323
The only beer I refuse to drink is baltika

>> No.19519919

>>19519903
Extremely understandable. I feel the same way about Tuborg

>> No.19519950

>>19517323
weed.is better than beer. beer only makes you happy if you are young and with friends. after that it is all negatives

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19519955

Obviously you have never had the displeasure of having had a pokal before

>> No.19519961

>>19519950
Shut the fuck up you Seth Rogen carbon clone. Weed does not replace beer. Two different things

>> No.19519981

>>19519757
Hey, not everyone who drinks Bud Light is an inbred redneck. Lots of them are just regular rednecks with completely normal downie numbers.

>> No.19519987

>>19517392
>shitty IPAs
That's all there is in the Economic Zone of the United States other than tranny piss.

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>>19519955
Picrel might give that one a run for its money. Never trust a green can.

>> No.19520001

>>19517323
No, I guess I am not. But I still drink beer. What does that make me then?

>> No.19520008

>>19517368
Take the cider pill and don't look back.

>> No.19520010

>>19519987
Wrong. Sours and gose have supplanted IPA as the preeminent beer of faggot pseudo hipsters. Been that way for a few years now.

>> No.19520258

I'm ABSOLUTELY not drinking any
>"Light" beers
>Fruit beers
>Sours (spoiled fruit crap)
>Radlers
>Fruit flavored alcoholic anything
>Modern "IPAs" (Nothing in common with a historical IPA)
>Kolshes
>Fuck Kolshes

I'm a genuine alcoholic that has worked on 100% pure beer for 12 years and will DIE to this disease, but there are rules.

>> No.19520260

>>19520010
Limey sours are good and the rest taste like right before you throw up

>> No.19520411

>>19519729
>pathalogical retard
was it you?

>> No.19520811

>>19517323
No, reddit, gatekeeping is good for communities. It enforces a minimum standard of quality of behavior or product in that community. Why are French and Italian products so regarded as high quality and luxury worldwide? Because they aren't afraid to tell people when they are doing a shit job.

You can gaslight yourself into thinking the macro piss swill beer you spill on your wifebeater is just 'regular beer,' but actual beer appreciators know that shit is just minimum legal standard trash.

>> No.19521653

>>19517323
nah man some beer is absolutely horrid and I will not drink

>> No.19521727

>>19520010
Sours never really took off like people were expecting them to. Hazies are still the dominant style.

>> No.19521806

>>19521727
Sours are sold here and you can find some great European ones

>> No.19521856

>>19521727
They tried making thick smoothie ales a thing for a while but stopped pretty quickly

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>>19517323
The problem is most of the stuff people call "beer" is just piss

>> No.19522071

These days I'll drink most beers, I'm nowhere near as picky as I used to be. However I won't waste money on genuinely shit beer and I refuse to drink swill like Carling or Fosters.

>> No.19522314

>>19519729
Yeah we're miraculously still around, there is more than one pathological retard though.

>> No.19522587

>>19517323
>have a beer that was purchased for me
>found some green chilis in a dumpster
>pour beer into glass bottle
>put some chili in it
>let it sit for a while

havent sipped it yet.

>> No.19522596

i'll drink any beer, but there's there's a lot of bad beer that i would never pay money for or ask for by name.

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this was the first case i purchased
would partake again. cant recall its qualities to feel.
mained labatt blue becuase i was a hipster.

>> No.19522730

My friends and I went to some hipster bar that only served sours, goses and rauchbiers. They were all disgusting, we didn't enjoy a single thing on the menu.

Gruits and witches brew style beers are where it's at though.

>> No.19522764

>>19517387
I'll drink it, though this better not be another trick to make me guzzle cum.
I'm getting sick of it.

>> No.19522772

>>19517323

I tried a sour earlier that tasted like Sunny D with slightly more tang. A little on the sweet side but refreshing

>> No.19522802

IPAs are for faggots and taste horrible.

>> No.19523101

>>19521856
>thick smoothie ales
Those were just a variation of hazies.

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19523117

>>19522802
I don't know how many times it needs to be said, but faggots DO NOT drink IPAs. Neither do hipsters. If you think IPAs taste horrible you're unironically more on the side of faggots and hipsters.

>> No.19523128

>>19523117
t. hops farmer

>> No.19523133

>>19523128
If I was going to larp as a farmer, hops is probably one of the best crops to go into - at least before weed was legalized.

>> No.19523138

>>19523117
go bite into a grapefruit fagbag

>> No.19523143
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19523143

I think beer tastes awful and everyone is in on it. They pretend to say otherwise but deep down everyone knows, beer is bitter and disgusting.

>> No.19523153

>>19523117
I'd tell you to drink bleach, but you'd probably enjoy the flavor too much.

>> No.19523168

>>19520258
>I'm a nigger faggot and will die a nigger faggot

>> No.19523177

>>19520258
>Modern "IPAs" (Nothing in common with a historical IPA)

I know of at least one brewery from the early 1800s and their original recipe, although no longer produced, was a bitter hop bomb very much in line with trendy modern IPA.

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>>19523138
>ugh, i like totally took a sip of this guy's beer who i was crushing on when he wasn't looking and almost vomited
>it wasn't sweet and delicious AT ALL!
>it almost tasted like grapefruit!
>that's like what old people eat! and even they need to add sugar!!
>it turned out he wasn't even gay and just wanted to talk about farscape
>this should be illegal!
>garçon! one more summer shandy on the rocks, s'il vous plaît!
The fact that you think all IPAs taste like grapefruit or pine needles or whatever just shows how ignorant you are about hops and beer in general.

>> No.19523185

>>19523179
IPAs suck, cope

>> No.19523202

>>19521727
Idk I'm seeing more and more. Which i thought was a good thing because I love sours but it seems that most brewers have yet to figure out how to make a good sour and every glass i get is rolling the dice. They all seem to still be in the whole "MORE SOUR/HOPPY MORE BETTER" mindset. Which can work, but usually just ends up making it taste like vomit.

>> No.19523207

>>19523185
"Cope" and "seethe" have become such meaningless terms at this point. Any time someone uses either of them I just assume they've run out of memes to regurgitate and and conceded that they lost whatever argument was being had. Like, you can't just declare you're right and then tell someone to "cope". What the fuck would they be coping about? Some online rando is unable to articulate why they believe they're right about something and that somehow makes them right?

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19523220

>IPA

>> No.19523238

>>19523202
>every glass i get is rolling the dice
That's how most people were feeling with IPAs around 2015, which is just about the same time that sours started to be talked about as the next big thing. Then a ton of new breweries went out of business because the market was so oversaturated and somehow hazies blew up and became the thing everyone was doing, and we're still in that phase. I have a number of places around me doing really interesting sours and wild yeast type stuff in general, but it's never been anything other than niche, despite the fact that every bar always has one or two on tap.

>> No.19523268

>>19523207
lol cope

>> No.19523279

>>19523220
I never really liked this meme just because it seemed to always be used incorrectly. But the squid girl puking up black ink has always given me a chuckle. I guess I'm just more /ck/ than I am /v/.

>> No.19523355

>>19523179
the fuck did you write this all out when you could have just said that the other guy was wrong

>> No.19523372

>>19523179
terrible post and opinion but you did reference a network TV show i like

>> No.19523380

>>19523355
To be honest, I mostly come here to argue with people. I don't care if they're 13 and will just say that I'm seething or whatever when I reply to their poor bait troll post explaining why I think it's poor bait and then go on a tangent about zoomers being immune to irony and international trade policy. I don't come here to "win". If you're here, you're already a loser. I just find it a convenient place to work out ideas and get the occasional surprise laugh.

>> No.19523387

>>19523179
seethe
>>19523380
cope

>> No.19523390

>>19523372
>he likes community
Lol. What a fag. Watch a real show like Farscape.

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>>19517323

>> No.19523414

>>19523372
>terrible post and opinion
It's 100% true, though. There's a tiny amount of hops that taste like grapefruit, and they don't define the IPA style anymore than hops in general define beer.

>> No.19523432

>>19523404
Thanks for remining me that I'd rather drink myself into an early grave than end up in a nursing home with dementia like both my grandmas. Such a terrible way to go.

>> No.19523495

>>19519729
Yup but the jannies ban you for posting invites. Most everyone who joined was a tastelet alcoholic anyways

>> No.19524137

>>19523143
coffee doesn't taste good either but sometimes it's good to drink.
beer isn't good in the way that a milkshake is good, but it's alright.

>> No.19524149

>>19523432
see the thing is people always go "oh i don't want to live to be 80 or 90, i'd rather die young"
but you don't die as a reasonably healthy 50 year old or whatever, you just trash your body faster and it fails at 50 instead of failing at 80.

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>>19524137
You can't add milk and sugar to beer. You can't freeze it or turn it into a smoothie or whatever. It'll still taste like garbage.

>> No.19524597

>>19523179
NTA but I hate IPAs because they're overhopped to the point of having one note (either bitter or citrus/grassy depending on the hops and how long they were boiled) and then sometimes they add gimmicky artificial flavours "dude it totally tastes like root beer omg"
I like beers with balanced flavours that develop naturally during fermentation, like malt, phenols and esters, even a slight yeast flavour can be nice. That is real beer, IPAs are largely a gimmick for the kind of person who brags about eating the hottest chilli pepper.

>> No.19525490

>>19523179
least estrogen-riddled IPA enthusiast

>> No.19525530

>>19517323
The only one that I'm not down to drink at any time are the spicy ones, have to be in a mood for an habanero IPA or whatever.

>> No.19525674

IPA is the ultimate midwit drink. Midwit IPA drinkers think lager is for brainlets/tastelets because they have been fooled by marketing into thinking they're buying "craft" while lager is mass produced crap. The truth is in fact the opposite. The word "lager" comes from "lagern" which means to store something, in this case in a cellar. Lager is beer that's aged at cellar temperature for a minimum of 3 months. This is to clarify it and develop its flavours since lagering yeasts are defined by their ability to ferment at low temperatures and produce subtler (but not absent) flavours. IPA is defined as a pale ale that has been hopped highly, the original reason being that hop acids are anticrobial and IPA was brewed for long voyages where even alcohol wasn't enough to prevent spoilage. Ales can be and usually are aged to let complex flavours develop, some of the Flemish ales like oud geuze are aged for years, but you can also brew a drinkable, if pretty tasteless ale in as little as a month. In the case of IPA, the base beer being tasteless doesn't matter since it's going to contain so much hops that you won't be able to taste much else anyway. Then they add gimmicky artificial flavours like menthol and raspberry syrup to capture the vaping crowd and stick a "really bitter bro!" sticker and some rebellious/cool artwork on it so you can feel like a man/individual and charge twice as much as a lager because it's "craft". Real craft brewers can manipulate the life cycle and environment of the yeast to produce hundreds of different flavours in any combination, introduce other microorganism to produce more flavours, and can add other botanical ingredients. IPA throws all of that out the window because any non-artificial flavours will be crowded out by tbe hops. It is actually the least "craft" way to brew beer possible. And that is why IPA drinkers are actually gigacringe midwits. Thank you for reading my blog.

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>>19517323
Downing a pocketwarm can of flat Euroshopper lager at 3am under a railway bridge.
That right there's the sign of a real beer drinker!

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>>19524597
>they're overhopped to the point of having one note
IPAs are one of the most nuanced and complex styles out there. If you think they're one-note you're either drinking bad IPAs or aren't drinking them fresh. And just like any style, a good IPA will be balanced. The reason so many brewers love IPAs is because they're one of the most interesting styles using just the basic 4 ingredients of the Reinheitsgebot, and the range and depth of flavor you can achieve is pretty much unsurpassed. It's a more expensive and involved beer to brew, but it's the best way for a brewer to show of their skill and personal style. If you can make a really good IPA, 80% of all the other styles will seem pretty simple in comparison.

>> No.19526068

>>19526061
you sound like the cheese fetishists who pretend their fancy cheeses taste like anything other than feet.

>> No.19526772

>>19520010
Imperial Stout erasure

>> No.19526789

>>19526772
Imp stouts were popular about a decade ago. Now everyone barrel ages every fuckin stout or it's a disgusting pastry stout. I really just want founders to distribute their imp stout again. That one and stones were perfect imo. Reasonably priced and just a quality beer, fresh or old

>> No.19526964

>>19526061
>To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand IPA's. The flavor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical terpenes most of the notes will go over a typical drinker's head. There's also the IPA's nihilistic bitterness, which is deftly woven into
its characterisation- its personal philosophy draws heavily from pine tar, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these beers, to realise that they're not just complex- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike IPA's truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the nuance in the drink's existential flavor profile "A Cocktail of Pool Chemicals" which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as DogfishHead's genius wit unfolds itself on their tongues. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a DIPA tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid

>> No.19527011

>>19523179
80% of IPAs sold in the US are one-note hazies or west coast hop bombs that all use a combination of the same 15 or so hop varietals. and don't even try telling me i've "just had bad IPAs", i've got you lapped in both number and volume. i would MUCH rather try a style that's unique, or new to me, or doesn't smell, taste, and feel like i'm licking tree sap, than have the umpteenth run-of-the-mill IPA. i don't give a shit if people like IPAs, but
>The fact that you think all IPAs taste like grapefruit or pine needles or whatever just shows how ignorant you are about hops and beer in general.
go the fuck back

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>>19526964
>you have to have a very high IQ to understand IPA's
I don't believe that IQ has anything to do with taste. It's mostly intuitive, and a cognizant understanding of "theoretical terpenes" is not a precondition for appreciation - though empirical experience along with age very well may be.
>the IPA's nihilistic bitterness, which is deftly woven into its characterisation- its personal philosophy draws heavily from pine tar, for instance
I'm not sure how I follow your connecting bitterness to nihilism, let alone "pine tar", which I assume was meant as some kind of hyperbolic metonymy.
>a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons
It's been awhile, but the reference must be cryptic because it makes just as little sense as the "bitterness" and "pine tar". I'm not even sure I'd call Turgenev "existential". And the fact that IPAs are still primarily consumed by the boomers who popularized it in the 90's when they started homebrewing in their garages as a way to cope with their midlife crises while never confronting conspicuous consumption only confuses things further.
>those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as DogfishHead's genius wit
Dogfish Head is almost intentionally unwitty. You have more wit than Dogfish Head and you somehow managed to type all that out without even hinting at it.

>> No.19527276

>>19527011
Nah he's right. A classic west coast is going to be piney and aggressive. Midwest is going to be more of a balanced grapefruit/peachy. East coast is the hazy pineapple tropical. All just different hops, malts, and adjuncts. I liked the east coast variety for a bit, but when I turned 21 west coast IPAs were huge and I'm a sucker for them still along with a well balanced Midwest IPA like two hearted or summit epa. Shits good.

>> No.19527326

>>19527276
>a classic west coast is going to be piney and aggressive
That's really just the classic San Diego style. Northern California and PNW do their own things, and San Diego does far more than just that. They also pioneered triple and quad IPA's, which are closer to barley wines, and single hop IPA's have been really popular in the past decade, and those can be all over the place. Take out chinook and cascade and the "it's all just pine and grapefruit!" complaint becomes meaningless. Not to mention literally everyone is doing hazies these days. And in addition to the Midwest and NE styles you mentioned, there is interesting stuff all over the place. He clearly hasn't traveled much or spent much time at places with rotating taps.

>> No.19527353

>>19517323
>sours
>ipas
I'm not drinking that swill

>> No.19527364

>>19517392
hefeweizen gargles my nuts i'll take a fucking bud light over one any goddamn day

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>>19517392

>> No.19527819

>>19527326
that's the point. they're all muddied together now, everyone is making the same shit w.r.t. IPAs. hazy IPA used to be a regionally distinctive style, now it's practically mandated that every craft brewery in the united states have at least two. i've had IPAs from all across the country and the story is the same. we have reached and VASTLY exceeded critical mass. they do not need to occupy 3/4 of the beer aisle and 1/2 of the tap list.

>> No.19527865

>>19527819
We hit critical mass like 8 years ago, anon. A shit ton of breweries closed practically overnight because of how oversaturated the market was. If you still think there's too many IPAs at the liquor store or on tap at the bar, that's because it sells. I'm sorry that you think anything you don't like must be some conspiracy and two thirds of the population is just brainwashed or "trying to fit in" (which was always projection). That's not how it works. If we have 8 taps we'll put on things we like and think will sell. When things sell we buy them again and when they don't we don't. It's really not that complicated. If a bar has 16 rotating taps and 7 of them are IPAs that makes perfect sense to me. If they have more than 2 lagers I immediately think that they need to hire a new beverage director - or whoever is making that decision.

>> No.19528121

>>19527062
>he drinks the reddit beer
Unironically go back

>> No.19528201 [DELETED] 

>>19527353
European sours can be good, I've come to like them especially when they're really cold they're kind of refreshing. If you like sour candy you'll probably like them

>> No.19528296

>>19528121
The irony is palpable.

>> No.19528305

>>19517323
>If you never want to drink any beer, ever, you are not a beer drinker.

I'm not sure you needed to clarify that to anyone.

>> No.19528311

>>19517392
>Trappist ale
More like trannist lmao.

>> No.19528325

>>19527865
>I'm sorry that you think anything you don't like must be some conspiracy and two thirds of the population is just brainwashed or "trying to fit in" (which was always projection).
where the fuck did this come from? i even said i don't care if people like IPAs. because it sells doesn't mean i have to like it or that i'm "uncultured" for feeling that way. get off your retarded reddit high horse.

>> No.19528351

>>19528325
>where the fuck did this come from?
The things you posted? Where the fuck is this "woe is me" shit coming from? I don't recall ever claiming that everyone needs to like IPAs; plenty of people don't. Plenty of people with really good taste don't like hop forward beers. All I said was that there's a reason they still sell, which is because a lot of people also happen to like them. Unless I'm missing something I can't even begin to fathom how your special snowflake response to getting a little pushback combined with overwhelming agreement is somehow reddit.

>> No.19528388

>>19528351
lmao. i didn't say anything whatsoever that implied IPAs are a conspiracy, nor that people are just trying to fit in when they say they like them. actually acknowledge something i said rather than reply with "uhmmm idk, maybe what you said????"
>All I said was that there's a reason they still sell, which is because a lot of people also happen to like them.
no, that is not all you said, you didn't even say that until your last post. here are some other things you said:
>this whole post implying people who dislike IPAs are gay (????) >>19523179
>that people who dislike IPAs are just "ignorant"
>that i am clearly untraveled because i dislike IPAs
>that anyone was making generalizations about IPA regions that you claimed they did (they did not)

>> No.19528391

>>19528351
also
>overwhelming agreement
huh?

>> No.19528396

>>19517323
I tried to drink a Guinness yesterday: actually undrinkable, and I’m the type of guy who drinks stuff like gin or rum neat

>> No.19528409

I don't like beer that much and would never buy it unless a recipe needed it but I'm happy to drink any style of beer if it were given to me
Would I rather drink straight vodka or whisky? Yes definitely but beer is fine
One thing I don't get is why people don't like the taste of alcohol itself

>> No.19528419

>>19528409
>One thing I don't get is why people don't like the taste of alcohol itself
to be fair, you probably weren't enthralled with your first sip of alcohol yourself. it's an acquired taste, and i could get why people who don't have an interest in alcohol in general never end up appreciating it. especially when you consider they are not actively seeking out good stuff

>> No.19528424

There are two beers I would never touch again in my life: fosters and melbourne bitter. They taste the same; disgusting.

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For me, it's the 'jak

>> No.19528539

>>19517323
good b8 but not a piss drinker, I enjoy drinking real brews thank you

>> No.19528635

>>19528351
>there's a reason they still sell
Yes, marketing for redditors like you (go back)

>> No.19528641

>>19528296
>The irony is palpable.
Unlike literally any flavour besides hops and le epic artificial syrups in the reddit beer you drink

>> No.19528690

>>19517323
>any brand or style of beer at any time
what are the non-alcohol beers then?

>> No.19528880

I don't enjoy most beers and don't drink alcohol in general much,
but I fell in love with Boon Oude Geuze.
All my beer-drinking friends think it tastes like stomach acid, but it has a simultaneous complexity and depth of flavor combined with refreshing sourness that I think is special.
I refuse to drink most else beer now that I've tasted Boon Oude Geuze.

>> No.19530389

>>19527865
>If you still think there's too many IPAs at the liquor store or on tap at the bar, that's because it sells.
>When things sell we buy them again and when they don't we don't. It's really not that complicated.
>If they have more than 2 lagers I immediately think that they need to hire a new beverage director - or whoever is making that decision.
I can't tell if you're retarded or trolling (also retarded).

>> No.19530402

>>19528396
Same. It has a lingering bitterness that i find off putting.
>b-but Guiness just tastes like bread
If my bread tastes like that I'm throwing it out and inducing vomitting because it has gone very, very bad.

>> No.19530409

>>19528409
>why people don't like the taste of alcohol itself
Because it tastes like shit and your taste buds have ceased to work.
t. functional alcoholic

>> No.19531289

>>19528641
>le epic artificial syrups
see >>19526061
>The reason so many brewers love IPAs is because they're one of the most interesting styles using just the basic 4 ingredients of the Reinheitsgebot, and the range and depth of flavor you can achieve is pretty much unsurpassed. It's a more expensive and involved beer to brew, but it's the best way for a brewer to show of their skill and personal style. If you can make a really good IPA, 80% of all the other styles will seem pretty simple in comparison.
I know you're just trolling, but when you keep repeating this "artificial syrups" nonsense long after it's been addressed and dismissed you just look like a retard shouting at clouds.

>> No.19531960

>>19517323
Fuck sours, gose, and stout.

>> No.19532131

>>19531960
Stout is great when it's not disgustingly over-hopped.

>> No.19532166

>>19523432
in reality, you'll drink/eat yourself into a nursing home after being in constant pain for decades. healthy living prevents compounding disability and gets you bussy

>> No.19532208

>>19532166
It's not an either/or, dum dum. You can be stupidly over-indulgent or stupidly health-conscious and still die at the same age regardless, and be just as unhappy and full of regret when you do so. Avoiding alcohol altogether or seed oils or whatever stupid shit you think is going to shorten your life is retarded. Literally don't get addicted to cigarettes or opioids, go outside and move around, and eat somewhat balanced meals and you've taken care of 99% of your "life expectancy" that's under your control. The rest is up to luck, and getting dementia is like winning the god hates you lottery.

>> No.19532416

worked at a liquor store for a while that carried a variety of craft beer, spent most of my shift browsing it and then buying it on the way out
tried just about every type of craft beer, even dropped thousands on tavour within a few months for the REALLY hipstery shit
at the end of the day i can only really stand good belgian or german beer. complex, flavorful, and presents taste unique to beer, gives me a reason to choose it over another beverage.
>any trappist, delirium, weihenstephaner, duvel, piraat, bernardus
i cum buckets. just a few days ago i had a weihenstephaner dunkel and it was heavnely.

>> No.19532434

>>19532416
While I similarly ended up with German lagers, I can't regularly drink Belgians and wheat beers. I find the esters to be too obnoxious, I'd honestly rather drink a balanced IPA most of the time.

>> No.19532483

>>19532434
belgians can be intense sometimes, and i notice that improper storage or age can really fuck them over sometimes as some bottles just taste way more cloying and off than others, but that complexity is to die for. craft attempts at emulating belgians never come close.
there are a few good IPAs out there but i find it to be pretty hit or miss, too. i usually just reach for king sue if i want the IPA hit. i do miss the really bitter piney kind of IPA but ive yet to find one that really scratches the itch

>> No.19532592

>>19532483
>improper storage or age can really fuck them over sometimes
NTA but I've also noticed this. Two bottles of the same beer can taste completely different.

>> No.19533214

>>19532131
I've had a few good stouts, just like I've had a few good sours/gose. The problem is that so many that I have tried have been borderline undrinkable and absolutely not worth my time. Even the better ones I'm usually tired of by the time I'm done half a pint.

What particularly annoys me about them is that these three styles are HEAVILY overrepresented by Canadian breweries (and Canada doesn't really get any imports other than the biggest european brands). In my entire life I have literally only met one person who would would regularly pick one of these beers over an alternative (wheat/lager/red/brown/etc). The last time I visited Vancouver I went to a bar and they literally had 15 different sours/gose on tap and nothing else.

>> No.19533231

definitely prefer some much more than others and my only 'rule' as such is not drinking anything below 5% (4.8% at the very least which is more common and basically the same imo)

>> No.19533236

>>19532131
>stout
>disgustingly over-hopped
You have no clue what you're talking about.