/tea/ - forbidden chocolate edition

[Anonymous No.19399253]

This thread is for discussing teas, tisanes, and other herbal infusions.
info: types of tea, where to get tea, how to brew tea
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Previous thread: >>19377624

[Anonymous No.19399263]

>>19398865
nice, sounds interesting
in general I've never had a sencha that I disliked, as long as it was fresh and reasonable and not some mystery 5 year old teabag stuff

[Anonymous No.19399289]

>>19399253
I’ve been experimenting with ‘aging’ brewed green and black teas in a vacuum-sealed flask. So far it seems to make teas dramatically less tangy (I prefer it this way), and after an hour other flavours begin to be lost as well. Has anyone experimented with this before?

[Anonymous No.19399398]

>>19399263
This has pretty much been my experience, I haven't bought sencha off of amazon or anything but any reputable vendor won't sell you bad tea. I wonder if the production of pre-brewed tea has had a strong selection effect for loose leaf sencha in Japan, maybe the market ignores anything that's even mediocre.

[Anonymous No.19399423]

can someone recommend some higher end shengs?
I was thinking about some shengs from banateacompany (btc?) mainly because vesper chan meme

[Anonymous No.19399435]

>>19399398
I think it might also have something to do with labor costs? if you can't compete with dirt cheap tea from third world countries, you naturally have to make slightly premium stuff by default... but that's just a thought

[Anonymous No.19399472]

>>19399423
Do you know what kinda teas you are into? Either region or flavor profile wise? Young or old?
Not super high end but ive really been enjoyed the menku rongshi excellent taste great accomplishment" aka tea spirit cakes.
This one is priced reasonably and ready to drink right away.
https://tea-expert.net/mengku/10128-cha-hun-2021?page=2
Tart fruity sweet, a little bite without getting into bulang levels of bitterness. Easily the #1 or #2 young sheng i bought last year. It's their flagship standard yearly cake, beautiful leaf, nice processing, great representative mengku mountain tea.
If you want semi aged shengs teas we like has some great offerings.
I got this a few years ago and it was really nice, still a lot of vitality and punch.
https://teaswelike.com/product/2004-nanqiao-bada-nannuo-blend/
Teas we like also has some interesting quarter cake sets on offer. And both some young and old premium yiwu teas which i haven't tried.
Banna tea company / vesper chan stuff sounds good but i have delved into it

[Anonymous No.19399573]

thinking of getting a zsl cake from teaencounter instead of from farmerleaf this spring when the 2023 teas get on the teaencounter website maybe, their prices arent awful for some of the 200g cakes
im sad it seems like theyre not selling teas from the chinese storefront this year

[Anonymous No.19399597]

How often does farmerleaf do sales? I want to grab a bunch of his cakes again

[Anonymous No.19399610]

>>19399597
I believe at the beginning of the harvest and on the Lunar new year are the two consistent sales.

[Anonymous No.19399634]

>>19399610
So last month was the last sale this year?
Fack.

[Anonymous No.19399659]

>>19399634
theres usually sales at black friday too

[Anonymous No.19399692]

>>19399659
Okay nice.
Hoping his 2023 cakes and single tree pack don't sell out by then.

[Anonymous No.19399720]

>>19399692
I am fairly confident that the single tree pack will sell out by then.

[Anonymous No.19399812]

Is it really so bad that I love my Celestial Seasons? I love good tea too...

[Anonymous No.19399818]

>>19399812
why would it be bad? nothing wrong with herbal tea

[Anonymous No.19399872]

>don't start enjoying (black) tea until I abandon indian/sri lankan/kenyan in favour of chinese
>now years later I suddenly crave that robustness again
What do I even look for? I haven't touched this kind of tea in so long and I know next to nothing about it.

[Anonymous No.19399891]

>>19399263
Ironically, the best sensha I've ever had is a mystery tea, most likely years old, that neither I nor the shop I buy it from can identify. It's very frustrating.

[Anonymous No.19399966]

>>19399720
Hmmm should I buy this now? I was looking to buy 2 minimum so I can see how they transform over the years

[Anonymous No.19400169]

>>19399966
I would buy one, then after you taste it you can consider a second, just in case you don't think it tastes all that exciting. Shipping is included in the price so making separate orders wont make a difference in cost, but he only has a small amount of that tea, a few kilos total, so if it's something you really want to try i would suggest grabbing a pack now. Then you can order some cakes during the next sale if you want.

[Anonymous No.19400363]

>>19399472
>excellent taste great accomplishment
This will never not make me laugh

[Anonymous No.19400569]

>>19399872
How did u drink the Indian black tea? Isn’t meant to be drunk with milk? British style? Chinese black tea isnt good with milk unless mixed with Indian tea to add body.

[Anonymous No.19400786]

is this true?
>tfw no 1963 7542

[Anonymous No.19400916]

>>19400786
Nah that guys just a nerd

[Anonymous No.19400918]

>>19400786
Where are they getting the 100 year old cakes for their study?

[Anonymous No.19400933]

>>19399289
if you want less tannins you can try cold steeping if you have the patience, very nice. Otherwise you can dissolve a tiny pinch of baking powder i think.

[Anonymous No.19400944]

>>19400918
It's likely extrapolation

[Anonymous No.19401284]

>>19399253
>go to bargain overstock place
>always find black tea
>have got tins of earl grey, regional chinese black teas, oolong
>never any green tea
shits whack

[Anonymous No.19401442]

>>19399472
I'm just trying to broaden my horizon. I'm not familiar with all the regions yet
>Do you know what kinda teas you are into?
I like young to slightly aged shengs that still have fresh floral flavors atm. So far really like Farmerleaf Jingmai Gulan the most. I find it interesting with just the right amount of bitterness and great mouthfeel. In my current stage of drinking sheng I don't find the mellower subtle stuff that interesting, I need sharp floral and fruits note with some astringency without getting crazy bitter


>https://tea-expert.net/mengku/10128-cha-hun-2021?page=2
sounds like I'll enjoy it based on how you described it. I'll grab a sample maybe a cake

[Anonymous No.19401466]

anyone have some infuser recommendations for easy travel?
preferably ones thats not plastic or cheaply made

[Anonymous No.19401685]

>>19399253
Are there any good tea suppliers in Australia? I dont wanna spend money on T2 bullshit.

[Anonymous No.19401708]

>>19401685
haven't tried any of their teas, but Kuura has gotten popular lately as far as Aussie stores go

[Anonymous No.19401723]

>>19401708
I visited their website. Seems like theyre promoting their own version of the tea equivalent of coffee pods( kuuuru balls) at 1.50
a pop. No thank you. Dont want to be ripped off by some overpriced hipster fancies.
I just want a tea suppliers thats good value and have reliable shipping.

[Anonymous No.19401871]

I literally can't stop drinking cheap factory ripe, I don't want to drink anything else at this point. unless it's cheap old liu bao

[Anonymous No.19401940]

>>19401871
>image
There's a tea discord? I like to imagine the sound of twenty or thirty people randomly sipping or slurping briefly interrupted by comments of "fruit flavors", "it's woody", "3/10 astringency", "the silk slip very nice"

[Anonymous No.19401953]

>>19401940
there's a discord for everything nowadays

[Anonymous No.19401989]

>>19401953
Why does the discord user hate tealifehk? Also whats up with the fountain pens?

[Anonymous No.19401995]

>>19400933
Used some baking soda and it really does work. Thanks man.

[Anonymous No.19402025]

>>19401989
>Also whats up with the fountain pens?
consoomerist hobby crossover I guess?

[Anonymous No.19402031]

>>19401466
>anyone have some infuser recommendations for easy travel?
Tons of stainless mesh baskets on amazon/ebay, search tea infuser basket and you will find plenty. I think these are the best design because thwy give more room for the leaves to expand but still just work in a regular mug

[Anonymous No.19402052]

>>19401466
Use two mugs, one for steeping and one for drinking. Decant from the first into the second. Then get a tight fitting lid for the first mug to make the decanting faster.

[Anonymous No.19402061]

>>19401685
>Are there any good tea suppliers in Australia?
some shops owned by chinamen that might be okay but i don't know if anyone has tried them.
https://www.valleygreentea.com.au
https://aleafstory.com.au/collections/artisan-teas
Most people in Australia just order from shops in china

[Anonymous No.19402062]

>>19401723
I love how hipster packaging makes autists seeth uncontrollably.

[Anonymous No.19402068]

>>19402061
>Most people in Australia just order from shops in china
Can you post some links to these shops plz? Im a bit apprehensive with anything chinese as they have a penchant for scamming westoids.

[Anonymous No.19402074]

>>19402068
The Chinese will scam anyone, including each other.

[Anonymous No.19402078]

>>19402062
Its less about the packaging and more about the blatantly overinflated prices you get for that fancy packaging.

[Anonymous No.19402080]

>>19402068
Yunnansourcing.com is run by a westerner, they have a pretty broad selection and reasonable prices.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com is a cheap but mostly honest Chinese site. Just don't order the cheapest version on any type of tea they have and expect something different then cheap tea.
Depending on where you live asian grocery stores/markets can have a decent selection of cheap tea.
If you want standard indian black teas/English breakfast style teas check out
https://www.vahdam.com

[Anonymous No.19402081]

>>19402078
Im just giving you a hard time, that website is useless to someone who just wants standard loose leaf teas. They only have fancy boutique stuff.

[Anonymous No.19402123]

>>19402068
can recommend fullchea (assuming they deliver to aus)
good stuff provided you don't have expensive tastes

[Anonymous No.19402170]

>>19399253
Is it a good idea to store pu’er cakes under one’s bed? My mom is giving me 5 days to get them out of the kitchen.

[Anonymous No.19402186]

>>19401953
Me on the far bottom right

[Anonymous No.19402362]

>>19402062
White2Tea packaging makes me viscerally angry and I’m not ashamed to admit it

[Anonymous No.19402442]

>>19402362
at least Kuura has more of a consistent design language with less wrappers that are plain ugly. still smug hipster aesthetic, but looks more like a "pretentious art project" instead of White2Tea's "half-assed craft beer bottles" look

[Anonymous No.19402489]

>>19402362
For me it's kuura. They even picked out music to go with their tea. Just oozes lifestyle bullshit vibes so strong makes me seethe

[Anonymous No.19402516]

>>19402362
to me it's the "concept" or whatever they're putting on there, the weird names and designs, try to give off the vibe of having some kind of deep meaning but they mean nothing at all. just name it after where it's from or how it's made like every other foodstuff in the world.
which is why they actually got it right with the waffles one and it doesn't bother me.
but enough autistic seething for now.

[Anonymous No.19402517]

>>19402442
>>19402489
I keep wondering if the tea from those sites is actually worth it for the price or overpriced to all hell
I'm guessing the ripes are overpriced and I don't drink enough raw to make a whole order of that... so I guess I'll never know

[Anonymous No.19402963]

>>19401989
>tealifehk
I think he closed up shop with unfulfilled orders and did not refund people.

[Anonymous No.19403077]

>>19399253
Got some laoshan autmn 2022 oolong from verdant tea for my foray into the tea world. big fan

[Anonymous No.19403098]

>>19402963
I noticed his website just disappeared a while ago. Im not hugely surprised, guy always took multiple weeks to ship orders out and seemed like he didn't have the money to invest in buying enough tea to actually start a business.
Plus his business model of buying random semi aged tea from Guangzhou and then insisting 6 months of HK dry storage made them taste amazing and selling at hugely inflatied prices just wasnt sustainable, maybe if he had started in the early 2000s he could have pulled it off.

[Anonymous No.19403108]

>>19403077
Oolong is the good shit. I strongly recommend trying out roasted wuyi oolongs when you get around to it.

[Anonymous No.19403128]

I want to buy some aged Da Hong Pao but everyone who seems to like it INSISTS that 90% of it is garbage and you need to find the REAL aged Da Hong Pao
Considering
https://oldwaystea.com/products/aged-da-hong-pao-1992
https://oldwaystea.com/products/aged-da-hong-pao

[Anonymous No.19403235]

>>19403108
>roasted wuyi oolongs
Is this a good source?

https://teaandwhisk.com/collections/wuyi-oolong#:~:text=Wuyi%20Oolong%20%2D%20The%20Famous%20Tea%20of%20China&text=Our%20Wuyi%20oolong%20tea%20is,them%20visually%20appealing%20and%20delicious.

[Anonymous No.19403294]

>>19403128
>20$ per session
damn this is some expensive stuff

[Anonymous No.19403430]

>>19403235
Seems like the price range for higher end wuyi oolongs, but i havent used or heard of them before.
For vendors in china i like chawangshop for wyui oolongs in the more affordable spectrum and essence of tea for premium wuyi oolongs. For an American vendor i would try out old ways tea or wuyi origin.

[Anonymous No.19403444]

Grabbed some of this Green Earl Grey at Uwajimaya yesterday. It's pretty good. Didn't realize Earl Grey came in anything but black.

[Anonymous No.19403448]

>>19403444
LAO GAN MA

[Anonymous No.19403468]

>>19399253
not sure why people like oolong or green tea. how long are you "people" steeping it for? Its always so astringent.

[Anonymous No.19403488]

>>19403448
The chili sauce?

[Anonymous No.19403489]

>>19403468
try steeping it for less. or colder water for green tea
or you just have some really shitty tea
frankly I've never had an astringent oolong in my life aside from dancongs. most oolongs are mellow and forgiving

[Anonymous No.19403492]

>>19403468
3 min tops

[Anonymous No.19403512]

>>19403468
Just how dumb do you have to be to make an oolong bitter?

[Anonymous No.19403531]

>>19403489
>>19403492
Have you heard of Bama Tea brand? I was gifted a canister of it and inside the canister are individual packs. This pic isnt what I have, I have a cyclinder canister, but inside are these types of packs. Gonna try 20 secs steeps. Do i recommend this brand? Sure. yeah. I think these are supermarket brands too.

[Anonymous No.19403535]

>>19403512
i didnt say "bitter", I said astringent. its always astringent after like the 3rd steep.

[Anonymous No.19403548]

>>19403512
>>19403489
i dont think its "shitty" quality. Not high quality, but it was gifted and most ppl dont give shit quality. its sweet and floral, but theres astringency. I dont think u know what astringency means?

[Anonymous No.19403554]

>>19403531
haven't tried this brand
maybe you could try western brewing it if gong fu isn't going well?

[Anonymous No.19403560]

>>19403512
>>19403492
>>19403489
whoa, check it out, they have their own store. anyone have any info?

[Anonymous No.19403581]

>>19403554
>>19403554
https://youtu.be/XhozXLOJRRY
Heres a tour of Bama Tea Brand. This blond chick is easy on the eyes too.

[Anonymous No.19403584]

>>19399253
that's wood and dirt anon

[Anonymous No.19403591]

>>19403098
I'm mulling over starting a business retailing tea. A major goal would be sourcing unique or bespoke blends to sell exclusively, but to start I imagine I would be forced to stick with mostly factory tea and anything else interesting I could get my hands on.
At any rate, I could self fund for a good while and know it would not bring in much cash, but I want to do it anyway. I wouldn't mind hearing any opinions or concerns to help me avoid being another shady retailer who vanished.

[Anonymous No.19403592]

>>19403584
it tastes like creamy thick hot chocolate and cookie dough. with some wood and dirt in it. good tea

[Anonymous No.19403595]

>>19403581
tea picking seems pretty high tech, i wonder if brands that talk about picking teas and all that fancy stuff is fluffing it up.

[Anonymous No.19403623]

>>19403595
modern-style oolong processing is the most high tech out of any tea. with many teas it is much simple and possible to do by hand

[Anonymous No.19403633]

>>19403623
first time seeing a tea farm like that. always expected some mountain village that's very backwards. Or as how YS describes it, like some 300 year old tree and all that jazz.

[Anonymous No.19403638]

>>19403623
>modern-style oolong processing is the most high tech out of any tea.
yeah this brand seems modern as hell. This is probably why cheaper supermarket tea might actually not be that bad.

[Anonymous No.19403658]

>>19403633
>always expected some mountain village that's very backwards. Or as how YS describes it, like some 300 year old tree and all that jazz.
that's still how it is with some raw pu-erh. many of the tree age claims are bullshit though
stuff like oolong or sencha though? yeah it's almost always very modern and mechanised

[Anonymous No.19403670]

>>19403638
maybe there is something to it. I've had mostly really good experiences with cheap oolong desu

[Anonymous No.19403677]

>>19403591
His original business model was going to old tea shops in HK that don't gave a web presence, buying retail quantities of tea and then shipping it to buyers with a markup, basically a glorified proxy service.
If you are going to be selling teas like puer you shouldn't try to compete with warehouse style retailers, you ahould have an emphasis on sourcing a more limited selection of teas that you personally feel are excellent. Source teas that arent already available from western facing vendors.

[Anonymous No.19403688]

>be me
>live in Japan
>invited to a tea ceremony
>never tried matcha in my life
>go through a bunch of shit, what to say before you drink, which way your cup should face, whatever
>finally get to the part where we drink the tea
>it tastes kinda bleh
>pretend to like it in order to not hurt the feelings of the old man that did the ceremony for us
>i'm never going back again

genuinely cannot believe the level of ritual that's developed around consuming something so plain-tasting.

[Anonymous No.19403690]

>>19403677
this. a small, closely curated selection seems like the way to go for smaller shops. you just can't compete price-wise with something like Fullchea
bonus points if you have some weird curiosities people can only buy from you. like some of the stuff liquid proust sells

[Anonymous No.19403718]

I want to get some korean teapots or gaiwans. Anyone familiar with those?

[Anonymous No.19403730]

>>19403718
Not super familiar, there is one shop on etsy that sells handmade korean teapots, there is also some boutique on the west coat that has a few from some artist, those are all like $500 irc.
Koreas donestic market is kind of opaque to me, i dont find the huge nuber of proxy services and ebay sellers you find with Japanese stuff. At least last time i looked into it when i was interested in getting some korean red ginseng.
If you find some good websites let us know

[Anonymous No.19403731]

>>19402362
>>19402442
I really don't see a difference between either of them and bitterleaf. Buy the tea, toss the wrappers if they bother you that much.

[Anonymous No.19403796]

>>19403730
Yeah sure, I haven't found anything interesting so far but I'll share em.

Could you link me the boutique one if you have it?

[Anonymous No.19403808]

>>19403535
Oolong specifically? Maybe the leaves have opened by then so you're overbrewing, if you're doing short steeps. The first couple can be weaker.
It's hard to speculate though there's a lot of variables.

[Anonymous No.19403809]

>>19403098
My take was that the biggest problem with his business model is that his prices were to high. His selling point was his access to and curation of the HK tea that is not easily available to westerners. The problem was that he mostly bought stuff at what was probably full retail price (which is often kind of high in HK) and then marked it further so that he could make a profit. The high shipping costs on top of that exacerbated things. There were a good number of teas he had that I was interested in but I always went elsewhere due to cost.

[Anonymous No.19403812]

>>19403592
Where'd you get it from?

[Anonymous No.19403865]

Is H-Mart or an Indian supermarket fine for getting a nice black tea in bulk? Maybe Assam, since Barry's is still my favorite tea.
If not, any online suggestions?

[Anonymous No.19403967]

>>19403865
what kind of black tea? its easy to get british style teas which are black tea because the brits drink it.

[Anonymous No.19403972]

>>19403865
im a little concerned about tea from india due to indian hygiene.

[Anonymous No.19403997]

>>19403865
>>19403972
even the brown here in north american arent much better. they are everywhere and their practices are quite revolting. Little things like using a napkin and not your pants is not part of their culture. in the service industry, they dont give a shit about hygiene or cleanliness. Things a normal person would wipe or clean, they think its fine. so idk. Maybe thats why teas are recommended to rinse twice but who rinses british tea?

[Anonymous No.19404013]

>>19403997
every culture/race has its own characteristics but for brown people, there really isnt anything redeeming. they suck up real hard to those they deem superior and treat their equals and most other people like shit. most of the indians the normal person interacts with is outside of indian, and its never a good experience. I worked CSR for a major food chain (s) and the amount of complaints regarding brown people is insane. They hate non indians because they are very tribal due to no other races liking them. its almost like ugly outside and and ugy inside.

[Anonymous No.19404014]

>>19401871
>>19401953
If I ever meet you face-to-face I'm going to beat you within an inch of your life unprovoked and with no explanation.

[Anonymous No.19404019]

>>19403488
LAO GAN MA
LAO GAN MA
Uwajimaya

[Anonymous No.19404025]

>>19401871
im not sure about the hygiene of sri lankans. They arent well know for being dirty, I like to drink a ceylon tea for breakfast sometimes.

[Anonymous No.19404026]

Recs for taiwanese oolong?

[Anonymous No.19404064]

So one of the things I've liked most about tea vs coffee is that I don't have to grind anything or clean up anything. Just scoop the tea I bought, boil water, pour.

am I right about that? Or is there autism yet to find

[Anonymous No.19404076]

did i just get fucking grifted by a chinaman

[Anonymous No.19404077]

>>19403796
Not the one i was thinking of but i found this
https://daurim.com/
And this place
https://www.etsy.com/shop/yalceramicstudio
These guys have some korean teaware
https://www.tshopny.com/teaware
And this shop might be the one i was thinking of
https://www.studioko.la/collections/teaware
Unfortunately i don't really know anything about korean cermic styles so i don't know what to look for in a piece, i also don't know what kind of price range is reasonable.

[Anonymous No.19404083]

>>19403731
>I really don't see a difference between either of them and bitterleaf
Bitterleaf actually tells you what mountain the tea is from, kuuro and W2T are allergic to doing that.

[Anonymous No.19404087]

>>19404064
well depends. how much tea are u using? what scale are u using? what brand is your tea scooper and tea pick? what water boiling device are you using? what are you putting the water in? How much voltage does your water boiling device us? Who picked the tea leaves? what tea leaves? where did the water come from? what is the PH of the water? All these plus many more influence the cup of 茶 you drink.

[Anonymous No.19404091]

>>19404087
I'm OK with that stuff, just as long as I don't have to clean up coffee after grinding beans. Some occasional leaves on the counter is easy compared to that

[Anonymous No.19404095]

>>19403865
Try Alwazah brand tea, some of our black tea drinkers have said it's really nice for the money. Indian markets would probably be decent for cheap black tea, not sure about hmart https://www.amazon.com/Alwazah-Triple-Traders-Loose-Ceylon/dp/B07DZ4M75Z/

[Anonymous No.19404096]

>>19404064
If you stick to loose leaf yeah. If you get into iron cakes you'll need pruning shears or some shit to break them up. I've got some bricks that would be way easier to deal with if I had like a jewelers saw.

[Anonymous No.19404102]

>>19404096
bricks are better quality?

[Anonymous No.19404103]

>>19404091
what time do you drink the tea? tea brew at different times taste different. teas picked at different times taste different. the speed the water is boiled makes the tea taste different. what temp do you drink the at?

[Anonymous No.19404114]

>>19404096
i have some 10gram samples cakes that i cudnt break apart with a knife.

[Anonymous No.19404119]

>>19404076
Just looks like a broken website, did you just order from Awazan? If so that happens, you should get a conformation email in a minute or two.

[Anonymous No.19404125]

>>19404102
>bricks are better quality?
With black or green tea no, the tea bricks are usually junk, mostly made for decoration. With puer and other Chinese fermented teas they usually come in bricks or cakes.

[Anonymous No.19404131]

>>19404064
Nah you are rightz tea is much more simple, you don't need facy expensive grinders or shit like that. You can get really autistic about brewing if you want to but there isn't any real need to.

[Anonymous No.19404148]

>>19404131
not really. you are what we call banchod. In india, we make sure the tea is boiled very hot and milk is add same time.

[Anonymous No.19404154]

>>19404083
They sell $100+ 100g cakes with hipster artwork and a focus on western export. I'm not knocking the boutique bullshittery, just pointing it out.
>>19404102
Depends on the brick. There's a whole world of compressed teas out there. I really like some super compressed cheap tibet export shit. I haven't seen too much fu brick talk lately, but I'm sure someone else here could point you towards something cheap and tasty.
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/hunan-fu-brick-tea
>>19404114
I was going to meme with telling him he'll need a hammer and chisel for some teas lel.

[Anonymous No.19404160]

>>19404154
>I was going to meme with telling him he'll need a hammer and chisel for some teas lel.
you mean like the mini hammer and chisels? sure why not? eventually you realize a blunt knife isnt good enough.

[Anonymous No.19404166]

>>19404026
https://www.taiwanteacrafts.com/
Get fresh teas from last fall or this spring, especially for greener oolongs that aren't roasted. Try a few different types, make sure to try an Oriental beauty, some kind of green high mountain oolong (nothing too expensive) and some four seasons (get a bunch its usually cheap) maybe try a deep roasted tea as well.
Take a look at the descriptions and pick some that sound good to you.

[Anonymous No.19404182]

Does anyone here know anything about the stimulant properties of tea? Or rather the difference across varieties of tea?
From some rudimentary searching it appears that white and green teas (though I don't know what varieties, I suppose I would have to try them myself) have a the highest concentrations of caffeine and theanine.
Is there any commercial variety of tea that has some other unique stimulant or other effect?

[Anonymous No.19404196]

>>19404182
Black tea is clearly the stronger in caffeine content. It just feels that way. no idea if it is actually more.

[Anonymous No.19404200]

>>19404182
>From some rudimentary searching it appears that white and green teas (though I don't know what varieties, I suppose I would have to try them myself) have a the highest concentrations of caffeine and theanine.
really? i thought black tea had the most caffeine

[Anonymous No.19404220]

>>19404196
>>19404200
As I mentioned it was a rudimentary search. I checked again and it appears that black is generally higher in caffeine than those, though oolong surpassed all of the above. The difference in caffeine across any variety is less than 5mg though not terribly significant.

[Anonymous No.19404222]

>>19404200
>>19404196
>>19404182
Me think black tea is most caffeinated tea. Us indians drunk types of many teas. we have teas for lunch and after mid afternoon and before supper in evenings. Cups we drink is apparently very strong to foreiners. why do you think you are being by saying black is not the strongest?

[Anonymous No.19404229]

>>19404220
>The difference in caffeine across any variety is less than 5mg though not terribly significant.
I wouldnt be so sure about that as the effects on the human body is quite significant. You can try different types of tea and you can notice the effects.

[Anonymous No.19404236]

>>19404229
British drink their tea quite strong, sar

[Anonymous No.19404245]

>>19404236
shut up pajeet

[Anonymous No.19404264]

>>19404222
Hello Sir,
please to not be posting on the 4channels, Dalit are not to post here.

[Anonymous No.19404281]

>>19403677
I can't imagine selling tea I didn't personally like. I guess if I was trying to make it my main source of income I would. Still, it's hard to source teas not already available. I'm going to start reaching out, though. Thanks.
>>19403690
I have some experiments in mind I'd like to do and sell results of to whoever is into that sort of thing. Heated pumi, I've mentioned Florida storage, a couple other ideas I have too.
Appreciate the feedback. I don't need it sugar coated either. Just lay it on me.

[Anonymous No.19404294]

>>19403967
>>19403972
I do like English teas, including Earl Grey, but Irish breakfast teas are definitely my favorite. I think they're (at least Barry's) a blend of Assam and Kenyan.

[Anonymous No.19404295]

>>19404264
amusing. lacking education. that was quite obvious from you posting. in future, refer to the google to see you what you are. you are what is known in Britain as a alley way rat. here your kind, we do not see and we talk. we talk and we no look because looking is low.

[Anonymous No.19404298]

>>19404095
I'll check them out, thanks for the suggestion.

[Anonymous No.19404301]

>>19404294
>Irish breakfast
very malty. definitely has assam in it. Had the Twinning ones and it was tea bag but the tea was way too powdery. Im sure factories defintely sell floor sweepings. It was tasty and needs milk and the caffeine content was quite strong.

[Anonymous No.19404312]

>>19403731
I wouldnt buy tea with weird pictures on it and if it was 200 dollars a cake. like literally look where tea is picked and farmed, i doubt many companies have teas worth 200 dollars.

[Anonymous No.19404320]

>>19404312
theres literally high tech farms and factories making tea in china and the production looks quite good.

[Anonymous No.19404342]

>>19404312

[Anonymous No.19404362]

>>19404342
lol thats a tea meant for a post wall female.

[Anonymous No.19404394]

>>19404320
examples? I'm a sucker for high tech

[Anonymous No.19404412]

fuck high tech, i prefer convincing myself that all the tea i drink is hand picked from untented tea trees growing untened in the forest.

[Anonymous No.19404420]

>>19404412
this is what i think too. I think supermarket teas are high tech teas.

[Anonymous No.19404421]

It finally arrived! 75 days total in transit, most of which was spent waiting for a plane in Guangzhou.
I went a little overboard on the order itself, but I refuse to feel guilty about it. The original intention was to get the KTM Project 1 packets for storage comparison. Ended up with a bunch of XiaGuan including a kilo of Xiao Fa plus some other cakes.
It also includes teas I've never had before: aged shou mei, aged XiaGaun shengs, lao cha tou, dan cong oolong, plus a few items from factories I don't know at all.
I'm going to let them rest in storage for a while before I touch them, but I couldn't be happier.

[Anonymous No.19404433]

>>19404421
Fuck yeah. Glad you finally got it pal. Its been quite an adventure.

[Anonymous No.19404435]

>>19404421
Congrats~!

[Anonymous No.19404477]

Would you rather drink this perfectly controlled industrialized fermentation done by bunch of japanese nerds in clean spaces and proper attires
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM2CEyaBo8c
OR
natural fermentation done on dirty factory floors by bunch of sweaty chinese farmers using rusty shovels and rakes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI4yDyH1oUM

[Anonymous No.19404530]

>>19404421
>, lao cha tou
This.

[Anonymous No.19404531]

>>19404421
the 1802 and 1801, what is it?

[Anonymous No.19404535]

>>19404421
Oh shit, that should keep you busy for a while. Im interested to hear your thoughts on those xiaguan ripe tuos of all things. Im wondering if the modern ones are as funky as they used to be (i kinda like the xiaguan ripe funk)

[Anonymous No.19404540]

>>19404531
>the 1802 and 1801, what is it?
Some ripe and raw cakes he added to the shop from some brand i haven't heard of.
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2010-2012/products/2019-yunyuangu-pin-ge-1801-cake-180g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2010-2012/products/2019-yunyuangu-pin-ge-1802-cake-180g-puerh-ripe-tea-shou-cha
>It is put it on shelf because of the good flavor and taste comparing to decent cost

[Anonymous No.19404547]

>>19404421
Yeah the size of the box/weight is why it took so long to get on a plane, i had a large KTM order that took a while as well. And your box was probably much bigger because he had to pack the teaware safely.

[Anonymous No.19404554]

>>19404540
>https://kingteamall.com/collections/2010-2012/products/2019-yunyuangu-pin-ge-1802-cake-180g-puerh-ripe-tea-shou-cha
interesting. please do review the store brands in this post.

[Anonymous No.19404558]

>>19404477
lol can you compare ripe pu erh processing to the jap tea?

[Anonymous No.19404646]

>>19404558
Thats their take on ripe

[Anonymous No.19404734]

>>19404477
Here is their informational pamphlet.
https://www.osadaen.co.jp/yamabuki_english.pdf
I plan to buy some Yamabuki-nadeshiko later this year. I will tell you all how it is when i get it.

[Anonymous No.19404893]

>>19404477
>dirty factory floors by bunch of sweaty chinese farmers using rusty shovels and rakes
That's one of the selling points though. Without the dirt and sweat it wouldn't be proper ripe puerh.

[Anonymous No.19404996]

>>19404064
tea ritual is more relaxing than coffee ritual imo

[Anonymous No.19405248]

>>19403812
kingteamall. but they also have the same one over at yunnansourcing

[Anonymous No.19405252]

>>19404076
classic Awazon shopping experience
don't worry, they'll confirm the order via email and ship it out soon

[Anonymous No.19405259]

>>19404421
funny, I also got the Project 1 samples and that tie luo han
what I'm most interested in personally is the Haiwan Lao Cha Tou. be sure to review once you try it

[Anonymous No.19405278]

what tea should I be havig when I've got some stomach problems? reflux type stuff

[Anonymous No.19405416]

>>19404421
Fucking nice. How much was it?

[Anonymous No.19405528]

>>19405278
i dunno i tend to avoid tea when i have a bad stomach, the tannins don't seem to help, but maybe a shou? i just chug plain milk if i have reflux

[Anonymous No.19405619]

Buy his tea

[Anonymous No.19405659]

The farmer leaf full transparency
https://www.farmer-leaf.com/pages/why-transparency-matters

[Anonymous No.19405669]

>>19405659
VS the hipster tea shop trust me bro
https://white2tea.com/collections/2022-raw-puer-tea/products/2022-must-be

[Anonymous No.19405690]

this is the two approaches to tea, buy from the one you like.
w2t has some good teas, FL has some good ones. Knowledge of where its from does not make a tea taste better, just like not knowing where its made makes it taste worse.
spend your money wisely where you think it gives you the tea you want. (in literally all cases this means you never buy a cake worth more than 150$)

[Anonymous No.19405872]

>>19405690
If you want to try certain teas, at some point you'll have to accept that some tea is very expensive. If you want to try a very good Yiwu or Lao Man E gushu, it will be expensive. Is this tea better than shengtai? Better than gushu from less famous mountains? Better than random factory tea? Probably not, but the price is the price, which is the barrier to entry.
I actually no longer consider the price of specific teas, I have a set budget and teas that I want to drink, and I use the money to buy the tea. Some of it is multiple dollars per gram, some of it is a few cents per gram, I enjoy all of it. The expensive tea is expensive, and the cheap tea is cheap, and that's all it is.

[Anonymous No.19405875]

>>19405619
William is the patron saint of Western puerh drinkers.

[Anonymous No.19405956]

cnnp black box liubao from purple cloud, absolutely fantastic tea.

[Anonymous No.19406003]

>>19405619
He scratches his noise and wipes his sweaty forehead with the same glove he’s pan roasting teas with.

[Anonymous No.19406036]

>>19406003
That's part of the charm. If you are buying teas produced in rural peasant villages in china you have either come to terms with the fact that you are getting tea made by peasants in straw shacks or you are fooling yourself into thinking your tea is somehow processed in a cleanroom.

[Anonymous No.19406056]

>>19406003
>>19406036
Is that why you rinse your teas?

[Anonymous No.19406063]

Which store in the pastebin do I order from if I want fresh sencha in the US without paying more for shipping than I am for the tea?

[Anonymous No.19406088]

>>19406056
Yes.

[Anonymous No.19406125]

>>19406063
>Which store in the pastebin do I order from if I want fresh sencha in the US without paying more for shipping than I am for the tea?
O-cha but switch to the cheaper shipping option. It should be $8, the default one is $20.

[Anonymous No.19406132]

>>19406063
>>19406125
I think this page has all the 2023 teas, in says sincha but it includes sencha as well.
https://www.o-cha.com/shincha/

[Anonymous No.19406136]

>>19406132
Actually im wrong some that are just listed under sencha are also from this year, just make sure the harvest date is 2023 from the specs in the listing.
https://www.o-cha.com/loose-leaf-green-tea/sencha/

[Anonymous No.19406172]

>origin post is preparing shipment
Lets see how long this order takes to get on a plane, im guessing it will reach customs within the next week.

[Anonymous No.19406207]

>>19406132
>>19406125
Disregard this i suck cocks

[Anonymous No.19406215]

Is old oolong safe? I have sealed wuyi rock tea? from 2009 in a sealed package. Smells like dark chocolate when I opened it.

[Anonymous No.19406220]

>>19406215
Not only is its safe its usually quite nice

[Anonymous No.19406246]

>>19406215
it's highly dangerous. immediately throw it as far as you can and run

[Anonymous No.19406263]

>>19406215
Yes, it's safe. This kind of oolong can age well and sometimes be much more expensive aged

[Anonymous No.19406334]

Do you add anything extra to your tea? I like to experiment and see how the flavor is affected. I know some people favor milk, honey, or cream depending on the kind of tea.

I've tried crushed pecan in coffee before, but not tea. The realization is why I'm posting this, and also why I'm steeping a black tea with crushed nut in the infuser for the first time right now. Am I going to regret this?

[Anonymous No.19406375]

>>19406334
the particulates from my clay teapot

[Anonymous No.19406378]

>>19406334
I unironically enjoy black tea with chocolate milk

[Anonymous No.19406379]

>>19406334
I have never added anything to tea that i can recall, maybe i tried some Lipton with milk once as a teenager

[Anonymous No.19406384]

>>19406375
Kids these days don't appreciate good clay, they're all about microplastics in their food and drink.

>>19406378
Huh. What are we talking, like half-and-half or just a teaspoon of brown milk or...?

[Anonymous No.19406393]

>>19406384
I usually just eyeball it. About 2/3 Tea I'd assume. Got a big 350ml mug so I just make a normal cup of tea in that and add the choccy milk on top.

[Anonymous No.19406431]

>>19406334
Not usually, but lemon in black tea can work, and I've added ginger to green tea before

[Anonymous No.19406453]

2020 Yunnan Sourcing "Yong De Blue Label" Ripe Pu-erh Tea Mini Cakes. Do buy buy.

[Anonymous No.19406457]

>>19406453
dont buy it. its not that good.

[Anonymous No.19406461]

I can only afford cheap shitty tea from Amazon. Are you guys still my friends?

[Anonymous No.19406462]

>>19406461
No, real /tsg/urus order cheap shitty tea from Awazon.

[Anonymous No.19406466]

>>19404547
My box is a lot smaller and it is still taking months to get here via airmail. China Post is just screwy sometimes.

[Anonymous No.19406470]

>>19406384
>>19406393
Black tea steeped longer is good with milk.

[Anonymous No.19406487]

>>19406470
I used to put milk in every tea, but one week I forgot to buy milk and had to drink black tea. When I bought milk again it tasted so obvious and seemed to overwhelm the tea. Now I just drink my tea black.

[Anonymous No.19406541]

>>19406461
Of course cheap stuff is good too. Through poverty, unity.

[Anonymous No.19406582]

>>19406487
>overwhelm the tea
what type of tea? and how long steep?

[Anonymous No.19406629]

>>19406582
Jin Jun Mei, and a fairly strong steep
The important part is that I did not change my parameters in any way yet in only a couple of weeks my taste had been completely altered.

[Anonymous No.19406632]

Do teas with anime waifu packaging exist?

[Anonymous No.19406637]

>>19406629
oh yeah i tried jin jun mei with milk, its not a good profile for having with milk. Assam, ceylon, and british breakfast blends are good with milk though.

[Anonymous No.19406638]

>>19406461
this is a poorfag general, anon. we buy tea from Fullchea here and sort by cheapest on Awazon

[Anonymous No.19406649]

>>19406632
these waifu enough for you?

[Anonymous No.19406677]

>>19406629
if you want, you can try mixing jin jun mei with ceylon milk tea and see what happens. might add some body to your milk tea.

[Anonymous No.19406694]

>>19406677
That’s an interesting idea. I try mixing it with the Yorkshire Gold I keep for visitors.

[Anonymous No.19406702]

>>19406487
Yeah, milk will mellow out the flavor of tea really well. That's good for something bitter, but add too much and it will completely conceal most of the flavor. I usually aim for about a half-teaspoon of milk.

>>19406637
> Assam, ceylon, and british breakfast blends are good with milk though
The British milk teas in particular are what got me to first try milk in tea. I was pretty dubious of it at first and didn't like the color it turned, but it has grown on me. IMO, it's best with a slightly sweet snack, like a pastry.

[Anonymous No.19406703]

>>19406694
>Yorkshire Gold
thats not bad, its good flavor and some depth to it. but the grind is too fine. like floor sweepings.

[Anonymous No.19406705]

>>19406702
>half-teaspoon of milk.
holy. obviously youre not drinking british teas lol. or dont steep long too.

[Anonymous No.19406722]

>>19406705
or hes drinking in kung fu tea cups and not normal sized cups

[Anonymous No.19406827]

>>19406703
It's good enough that it impresses the uninitiated and it's also really cheap

[Anonymous No.19406855]

>>19406827
>It's good enough that it impresses the uninitiated
well said. its hard to get good british tea cus most brands arent that good. however, i think ahmad is pretty good. but i dont like the brand.

[Anonymous No.19406949]

>>19406855
I've never had ahmad, it's not sold in the supermarkets here and I'm not going out of my way for brit tea

[Anonymous No.19406980]

>>19406949
amazon.

[Anonymous No.19407166]

>>19406334
I've been experimenting with mineral drops. My RO filter adds minerals back in on the last stage but it's not minerally enough like you get with good mountain spring water. Imo just upgrades the tea by a little bit but doesn't fix bad teas.

Not related but does anyone try "infinity bottle" but for tea? I know sometimes I end up with small amounts of tea in my samples so I've been accumulating them in jars (so far just sheng and shu).

[Anonymous No.19407246]

>>19406063
That's gonna be ippodo tea in your case. I recently bought their shincha and was very happy with it.

[Anonymous No.19407280]

>>19407166
>Not related but does anyone try "infinity bottle" but for tea? I know sometimes I end up with small amounts of tea in my samples so I've been accumulating them in jars (so far just sheng and shu).
Yeah i have a old cardboard tuo box filled with the crumbs from various raw puer. It's pretty good, but it's only aged and semi aged stuff. Im not sure if aged and fresh sheng would mix well, maybe it would.

[Anonymous No.19407284]

>>19407166
> My RO filter adds minerals back in on the last stage but it's not minerally enough like you get with good mountain spring water.
There are inline remineralization units you can plub int between the ro and the sink if your interested. There are also several links in the pastebin for water mineral recipes for RO water if you want to explore that further.

[Anonymous No.19407414]

>>19406649
No W2T do all this bullshit but there is no tiddy catgirl puerh yet??

[Anonymous No.19407454]

>be American
>be tea-drinker
>start dating a British girl
>find out she doesn't do afternoon tea time, and in fact doesn't like tea at all
>tfw emotionally crushed, I don't even know what to do with this relationship anymore

I'm not sure if this relationship has legs to stand on long-term if I can't warm her up to the idea of a cup of tea, but damn her accent is really cute

[Anonymous No.19407512]

>>19407454
Tell her that everything she and her family has ever had is rubbish and then show her the goods. Imagine being the yankee in-law who knows what good tea is.

[Anonymous No.19407648]

>>19406632

[Anonymous No.19407745]

>>19407648
Nice.

[Anonymous No.19407917]

>want to finally try that semi-aged sheng I got
>but the urge to have a morning shincha session is too overwhelming
send help, I'm addicted to japanese greens

[Anonymous No.19408052]

>>19407917
okay I just drunk both back to back. I am really high on caffeine / cha qi at this point

[Anonymous No.19408066]

>>19407917
Same here, but with ripe puerh. I have so many types of tea, but i still end up drinking ripe daily.

[Anonymous No.19408202]

>>19408066
yeah it's either japanese greens or ripe for me 90% of the time now
I'm liking this sheng too though

[Anonymous No.19408255]

>>19408052
As long as you make sure to drink large amounts of tea every day your body will eventually adapt.

[Anonymous No.19408443]

>>19399253
Hello Anons, I love drinking teas of all types. Is there a particular type of tea that will keep me up late at night? I go to school and I need some energy to keep me awake. If there is something else besides teas that works even better let me know. Thank you

[Anonymous No.19408471]

>>19408443
>Is there a particular type of tea that will keep me up late at night?
Grandpa brewing shou puerh is good both because it's easy, and because you draw out the caffeine intake so there isn't a spike like chugging a cup of coffee.
>If there is something else besides teas that works even better let me know.
Modafinil

[Anonymous No.19408482]

>>19408443
>Is there a particular type of tea that will keep me up late at night?
Buy ma huang (ephedra sinca) on ebay from china. Or just go to the pharmacy and ask for bronkaid.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/115809779329

[Anonymous No.19408492]

>>19408482
>bronkaid
They keep it behind the pharmacy counter but you don't need a prescription, you just have to ask for it. Its allegedly an asthma medication but it's really just ephedra, start with half a pill and don't use more then one pill a day or get in the habit of using it every single day, save it for papers and cram sessions.

[Anonymous No.19408500]

>>19408443
yerba mate, sheng pu-erh and japanese greens seem to have the best kick for me

[Anonymous No.19408528]

For some reason my Lapsang Souchong always loses flavor after a while. I wonder if my tastebuds just get used to the flavor?
Or am I just buying shit quality, where can I find good quality Lapsang?

[Anonymous No.19408545]

>>19408528
if it's smoke flavored then yeah, it's definitely gonna lose that flavor pretty quickly
real traditionally smoked lapsang can get pretty pricey though
I like this Malawi Moto tea the africans came up with lately, it's also smoked and an interesting alternative

[Anonymous No.19408558]

Drink more Bulang puer

[Anonymous No.19408568]

>>19408558
but what if I don't like the bitterness and astringency

[Anonymous No.19408569]

>>19408528
Try this
https://marktwendell.com/china-lapsang-souchong.html
Or this if you want a more mild smoke
https://marktwendell.com/shop-by-tea-type/hu-kwa-tea
My favorite cheap lapsang has been the canned stuff from the asian markets but it's either not available at all or way overpriced online.

[Anonymous No.19408573]

>>19408568
>but what if I don't like the bitterness and astringency
Then drink more yiwu puer, or drink old hudmid tiwan storage bulang

[Anonymous No.19408596]

>>19408568
Lao Man E has two varietals of puerh, the tea on the southern slopes are bitter, the tea to the north is sweet.
Farmer leaf sells a northern slope tea
https://www.farmer-leaf.com/collections/yunnan-pu-erh-tea/products/spring-2022-lao-man-e

[Anonymous No.19408626]

>>19408596
>animal fragrance
That doesn't sound good

[Anonymous No.19408629]

>>19408596
The sweet lao man E is still bitter, im drinking some this morning..

[Anonymous No.19408638]

>>19408626
He means animalic, like leather, musk, sweat. Its a great rangle of odors imo.

[Anonymous No.19408642]

>>19408638
>Its a great rangle of odors imo.
*its a great category of smelly things. Animalic perfumes are the best, i love wearing deer musk tinctures

[Anonymous No.19408803]

>>19408596
sounds cool, but I can't afford 1$ / gram tea

[Anonymous No.19408807]

>>19408642
yeah I like them too. animalic and leather. I wonder how much crossover there is between tea enthusiast and perfume enthusiast

[Anonymous No.19408812]

>>19408803
He had a much cheaper fall small trees cake that was $45 but its sold out, hopefully he will make another this year.

[Anonymous No.19408834]

>>19408638
Musk and sweat doesn't sound good in tea. Ive had leather notes in ripes and it was pleasant but the rest not so sure. Animalic like civet shit and urine smell in tea?

[Anonymous No.19408876]

>>19408834
Mostly in tea ive experienced leather notes and notes i would described as vaguely animalic, mabe some light musks but i don't think i have had any that smell like civet paste or deer musk or anything like that. I was just giving genrap examples of what the description meant by animal. Also i should be clear this is more odors from the tea then tastes, but i don't think i would mind a leathery tasting tea.

[Anonymous No.19408913]

Before I try this, tell me if it's retarded or not:

Roasting your tea a little bit to bring out the aromatics

[Anonymous No.19408932]

>>19408913
I hear some people do this with stale oolong

[Anonymous No.19408936]

>>19408834
Yeah that doesn’t sound appetizing. Sometimes pu erh has fishy taste so yeah.

[Anonymous No.19408941]

>>19408913
Remember to add some oil to prevent the tea leaves from sticking and burning

[Anonymous No.19408943]

>>19408876
>leather notes
I think I also heard someone describe a bulang sheng as having a note of gasoline?
so... does it just taste the way Dior Fahrenheit smells?

[Anonymous No.19409033]

>>19408913
There are specific tea ovens. Little circular bun-steamer looking things. KTM on YouTube has a demonstration.
https://youtu.be/pX6d_iN2jz4

[Anonymous No.19409041]

>>19408941
>Remember to add some oil to prevent the tea leaves from sticking and burning
Don't do this, it will make your tea taste disguising

[Anonymous No.19409050]

>>19408943
Yeah gasoline notes is a somewhat reasonable description. Especially in very young bulang teas.
No it doesn't taste anything like Fahrenheit smells. God that would be awful.

[Anonymous No.19409149]

The roasamonte especial arrived, smokey yerba mate is where its at. This is very different from the organic stem free air dried fancy yerba i bought last time.

[Anonymous No.19409198]

>>19409149
yeah I find that "western tea store" mate is its own genre of yerba mate that's more delicate and "green" tasting than most of the stuff south americans usually drink. yerba mate can be more dark, smoky and woody. personaly I find that this type of mate usually has more depth and I tend to prefer it
smokey yerba mate kind of reminds me of some factory sheng pu-erh sometimes in that "green yet smoky" contrast

[Anonymous No.19409223]

drinking that Awazon 2006 Dayi Spring of Menghai "sample" today (one third of a cake)
doesn't taste very aged to me, I guess that's on the kunming storage. nice smokey plum fragrance, the taste is more smokey, a bit resinous forest, a bit grassy. forest fire? smoked ham? still has a kick to it with medium bitterness and quite a bit of astringency. got some menthol aftertaste at one point, but mostly it's smoky and drying

overall I enjoy it for the price, but it's nothing super special, just an old school standard factory production. nice to actually try a semi-aged Dayi raw that isn't overpriced to all hell though

[Anonymous No.19409229]

>>19409223
Yeah ive had some old ass Kunming stirage teas before and its shocking how little they change even after 15+ years. They do change some obviously but they stull tend to have that fruity young sheng taste and bitterness.

[Anonymous No.19409234]

>>19409198
I can see that, it does have some smokey factory sheng sort of vibes. Pretty enjoyable, i will have to keep exploring the barbacua mates.

[Anonymous No.19409307]

>>19409229
funnily enough the second semi-aged tea I got with that Awazon order, the 2002 6FTM ripe tuo actually has a pretty aged flavor to me. makes me wonder if it spent a few years in more humid storage before Awazon scooped it up and put it in their kunming warehouse

[Anonymous No.19409318]

>>19409307
Yes i also noticed that definitely some aged taste there. I wouldn't be surprised if it was somewhere else for a while. The listing makes it sound like they bought them in 2012 and they claim they were in Kunming storage before that but it's hard to say. Maybe it has to do with the lighter style of fermentation.

[Anonymous No.19409396]

>>19408558
I just bought some bulang samples from ys. Looking forward to try the meme region lao man e and experience bitter shengs. I'm most curious how wet piling transforms the bitter material tho

[Anonymous No.19409408]

>>19409396
Nice, i don't think i have had any bulang ripes. Im guessing they will still have some punch to them.

[Anonymous No.19409428]

>>19409408
Yeah the description says they have some bitterness. Hope it's a pleasurable contrast to sweet ripe flavor. Now the pain of waiting for the package begins...

[Anonymous No.19409447]

>>19408834
>>19408936
I have had teas with a sweat taste before, but it is good. The saltiness is gone obviously, and it mixes well with floral aromas and tastes. Ymmv though. Also, I like fishy tastes in ripe. Savoury tea flavors are underrated imo and a nice fishy soup broth ripe is a nice dinner time tea

[Anonymous No.19409473]

Let's fucking GO

[Anonymous No.19409487]

>>19409473
>400g of se chung oolong
Is this from Upton? I hope you really like that tea because I was struggling to drink it when I bought it years ago.

[Anonymous No.19409492]

>>19409487
it is. And that's very unfortunate to hear. I hope I like it. If not, it's getting heavily mixed with skim milk and sugar.

[Anonymous No.19409628]

i drink lots of tea. had a rose green tea today. very sweet.

[Anonymous No.19409638]

>>19409628
apparently its a taiwanese green tea.

[Anonymous No.19409797]

>>19409638
I've only had two taiwanese greens. the weird taiwanese style bi luo chun that's good but nothing like normal bi luo chun and a green GABA tea
taiwanese greens seem a bit underrated to me

[Anonymous No.19409936]

Anon that ordered one of every W2T dragon ball reporting.
Postal service god damn speedrunning my package, placed the order 10 days ago and I just got the out for delivery message.
Jesus it arrived 4 minutes ago, less then 4 days in transit. I'll just have my breakfast and post some pics later.

[Anonymous No.19409937]

I have a green tea with mint that makes me sick to my stomach when I drink it normally, but not if I add a few drops of honey. Anybody else experience this, or have any guesses as to why it happens?

[Anonymous No.19409940]

>>19409936
Imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.19409944]

>>19409937
Green tea causes nausea in some people when consumed on an empty stomach, just eat some food first

[Anonymous No.19409955]

>>19409936
you are the anon that did like a 6000 dollar tea order?

[Anonymous No.19409966]

>>19409955
https://i.imgur.com/vykTIR2.png
note they we're out of canton canton so I got a refund.

[Anonymous No.19409974]

>>19409966
are you going to be reviewing each of them?

[Anonymous No.19409976]

>>19409966
requesting camphornot review.

[Anonymous No.19409990]

>>19409966
how does it feel knowing you could get 1 aged yiwu cake for that price?

[Anonymous No.19410045]

>>19409990
dont really care, i wanted try a bunch of samples. lemme guess, you are fat and overweight from eating too many cakes?

[Anonymous No.19410076]

W2T gets an A+ for packaging and shipping. I think they paid for premium shipping which was nice of them.
I have checked everything and was a little insulted the only bonus was 8 grams of 2020 old reliable, but maybe it's dead stock and they chuck that in with everyone, or a makeup for Canton Canton.
2023 the thing still is smells absolutely incredible.
I also tried to post some images but the filesize was too big so I'll get imgur going again.

>>19409974
Yes, I'll try to make a post a day. (Who knows if I'll stick to it though, probably also keep track of my thoughts in excel or something too for later reference.
>>19409976
It'll be awhile I'll probably just lucky dip them and I got a lot to go though.
>>19410045
This, I would prefer to spend my money on variety and I'll enjoy this more.

[Anonymous No.19410081]

>>19410045
>dont really care, i wanted try a bunch of sample
fair, also i wonder how a ripe dragonball sample would be, ive only had sheng ones before.

[Anonymous No.19410092]

>>19410076
You are going to get really good at brewing dragonaballs, hopefully they open up pretty quickly and arent super compacted

[Anonymous No.19410097]

I seem to be missing 2017 Baimudan Fuding Fujian White Tea from the white tea sampler. I have a double up of 2018 Censers instead.

[Anonymous No.19410133]

>>19410097
If you email him he will probably do something. I think the tea you got two of is probably a more premium offering

[Anonymous No.19410135]

>>19410133
lol one free sample of like 8 grams lol.

[Anonymous No.19410163]

>>19409936
>>19409966
Looking forward to your notes.
>>19409976
Here's my review from Hoarding Edition three threads ago.
>I'm surprised! I've never tasted a shou puerh that had so little sweetness or richness. Instead, this tea tastes and smells a little more shallow, but not necessarily in a bad way. It's tough to describe. Reminds me of pulling on a pipe that's half smoked, but went out and needs relighting. There's something else there I can't put my finger on but I'm sure will hit me right before I fall asleep. The price is right for what it is, but I do already miss that familiar plum and dough richness that I expect from most other shous I've had so far. It's interesting to have a round, but I wouldn't make it a daily drinker.

[Anonymous No.19410164]

I never get hooked up when it comes to free samples. The US YS warehouse doesn't give any, or at least they didn't back when i ordered from them. If i spend a couple hundred bucks at kingteamall he usually throws in a few 4-5 gram bags of his cheaper house teas. One time i spend like $350 at essence of tea and he gave me a sample of the cheapest cake they pressed that year.
Is there some shop the people are getting tons of freebies from?

[Anonymous No.19410174]

>>19410164
i've only ordered from farmer leaf once and it was a small order, but they chucked in a pretty nice black tea sample

[Anonymous No.19410226]

>>19410164
I got lucky on a W2T order once and got a sample of this.
https://white2tea.com/products/iron-arhat
Best yancha I ever had but I also don't normally buy expensive yancha.

[Anonymous No.19410232]

>>19410226
God i love fancy yancha

[Anonymous No.19410240]

>>19410174
Yeah i got a 7-8g white tea cube from farmer leaf when i bought a cake

[Anonymous No.19410264]

>>19407454
peoples perceptions of the british's relationship with tea is so strange, they are painted as these tea loving addicts and in reality they are buying the cheapest shit from sainsburys and throwing it into the ugliest mugs, pouring in a shit ton of milk, usually letting it go cold, repeat 3 times a day

fucking hate this country

[Anonymous No.19410384]

https://imgur.com/a/325D2bO
Included a few other teas I have from them. should have included a cute timestamp but cbf. It was an absolute pain to sort.

[Anonymous No.19410402]

>>19410264
and tea bags too. their relationship with tea is that think they drink tea relgiously i assume.

[Anonymous No.19410412]

>>19410384
Jesus christ imgur cries and shits itself if you block their ads.

[Anonymous No.19410424]

>>19410384
>https://imgur.com/a/325D2bO
some of them look like 10 gram cakes or tuos. I have some 10 gram ones and my tea pick cant break them apart. they are so compressed and smooth.

[Anonymous No.19410427]

i posted about this tea before, but now i've tried it some more i've gotta say i'm really impressed. i described it as like old books before i think, but i just smelled an old book and it's not that. maybe leather or cigars or something in that region (i will have to find some old leather to smell)
it's unfortunate it's a bit pricey for me at about 40 cent/gram, but i might grab 50g at some point.
so my question is, do any anons have a suggestion for what to try next? is this a typical flavour profile for 20+ year old shou, so i can just try to find something around that age?

[Anonymous No.19410441]

>>19410427
looking through my tea book, i can recommend mang fei mountain ripe from YS. Dark fruit, cherry, slight sweet. very slight astringency. started with 2 20s rinse and a 4mins steep.

[Anonymous No.19410442]

>>19410427
This is a very woody ripe with noticeable aged tea taste, reasonable price for tea that's 20+ years old, just don't blind buy a whole kilo and complain if you don't like it.
http://www.pu-erhtea.com/TeaDetails.aspx?TeaID=225

[Anonymous No.19410443]

>>19410427
idk about drinking loose leaf. im worried about off flavors, and all that since its loose leaf. dry out easier and stuff. and storage issues.

[Anonymous No.19410450]

>>19410164
>If i spend a couple hundred bucks at kingteamall he usually throws in a few 4-5 gram bags of his cheaper house teas.
sounds good. i think my next order will be a few cakes from them. However, my current YS order has like a free 250 gram ripe as a deal

[Anonymous No.19410477]

>>19410441
looks interesting and quite a lot cheaper, thanks for the suggestion.

>>19410442
damn i was looking at that one as i placed an awazon order just a couple days ago. didn't go for it for whatever reason. i'll earmark it for next time

>>19410443
the "old dry organic matter" note is very forward but i wouldn't say it has any off flavours. i was a bit suspicious at first as well though.

[Anonymous No.19410524]

is it better to buy 4 ripe cakes off awazon or one dragon pillar and star of menghai and the elephant dayi?

[Anonymous No.19410583]

>>19410524
Good question, depends on what you are looking for. Most of the teas on awazon are on the affordable daily drinker side price wise. They also also have some age on them. If you want smooth mellow easy to drink teas without any funk they have some good options.
Im less familiar with the premium dayi offerings, in theory they could be more punchy and dynamic. But dayi is also not the best brand for value

[Anonymous No.19410593]

>>19410583
>But dayi is also not the best brand for value
whats a good brand for value? yeah, awazon seems like they have tea that is easy to drink. not having funk is important.

[Anonymous No.19410628]

>>19410593
>whats a good brand for value?
Haiwan, specifically on fullchea, the ones ktm has are kind of pricey.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/haiwan-2019-yr-pu-er-cha-9978-batch-191-shu-puer-te-357g
This batch has a good reputation for being good and cheap. They also have some premoum ripe productions on there but i havent had a chance to try any.
Here are some examples of their more premium teas that fullchea has.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/2019-haiwan-sea-of-clouds-ripe-puer-chinese-tea-yunhai-shu-puer-chinese-tea-400g
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/2021-haiwan-yi-wu-area-ripe-puer-chinese-tea-batch-211-yunnan-qi-zi-bing-shu-puer-chinese-tea-cake-357g
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/2019-haiwan-ripe-pu-erh-tea-quotliang-gong-chang-ling-quot-premium-tea-series-shu-pu-erh-tea-400g
They look nice but that's about all i can tell you

[Anonymous No.19410762]

>>19410164
I ordered $700+ and got one single 4-5 gram oolong sample from KTM. A little disappointing, but I hate to sound ungrateful. Just posting as a data point.

[Anonymous No.19410789]

>>19410384
lmao

[Anonymous No.19410806]

>>19410384
Actually, this is very considerate. Only somebody who gives a shit would do this.

[Anonymous No.19410822]

>>19410384
What are you going for first?

[Anonymous No.19410829]

>>19410628
thanks. il check those out. seems like theres a lot of good ripes for a decent price. The Dragon Pillar i want is like 90 usd and i also want like another 60 usd cake.

[Anonymous No.19410837]

>>19410628
would a 60USD haiwan be better quality than 60USD dayi based on dayi not being the best value?

[Anonymous No.19410840]

>>19410822
oolongs need a few days rest and the pu will need a week probably, so ill start with the whites and blacks, trying hot brandy.
Haven't tried it yet but I just started on my first brew smells very sweet like honey or aged shoumei.

[Anonymous No.19410959]

>>19410840
I'm not really one for notes, and descriptions (I need to get better) but hot brady definitely tastes like a mix of dianhong, and gongmei I think? Don't think it's shoumei because the leaves are a bit smaller and i definitely saw some tips. I'm pushing the tea quite hard with 8:100 and longer brews and it doesn't become astringent, got a silky aftertaste, but it doesn't come across as sweet as it initially smelled.
The blend complements each other nicely and takes the edge off, usually if I brewed this way with a dianhong it would be too bitter.
Overall I enjoy and recommend 2018 Hot Brandy.

Review 1.

What do you anons think should I namefag to make it easier to search though my reviews?

[Anonymous No.19410996]

>>19410959
>What do you anons think should I namefag to make it easier to search though my reviews?
p3n15ndt3aluv3r

[Anonymous No.19411011]

>>19410837
>would a 60USD haiwan be better quality than 60USD dayi based on dayi not being the best value?
Hard for me to say sorry, i haven't had a $60 cake from either brand but considering dayi isn't all that cheap on king tea mall and that fullchea is usually on the cheaper side price wise i would guess your money would go further with some haiwan cakes.

[None !LightPenis No.19411023]

>>19410959

[None !LightPenis No.19411029]

New thread on the way

[Anonymous No.19411037]

>>19399253
NEW
>>19411036
>>19411036
>>19411036

[Anonymous No.19411042]

>>19410628
I've got that first one, it's pretty decent.

[Anonymous No.19411321]

>>19410442
this. definitely some of the cheaper 20+ year old ripe out there and it does have an aged taste to it
I wonder how that YS tea stacks up to it considering that it's several times the price

[Anonymous No.19411329]

>>19410524
I'd go for 4 ripe cakes off awazon
frankly I'm a little sceptical of premium ripe when sub 20$ factory cakes can be so tasty. seems to me like ripe has serious diminishing returns