I am going to ditch automatic CUCK espresso machines

[Anonymous No.19388608]

FUCK maintaining these pieces of shit, holy fuck, they all, EVERY SINGLE ONE, break down after 1 fucking year of use. It's insane. And you can't really get in there and open them up tpo really clean them properly because muh manufacturer and muh right to repair. I have to fucking send them to "service" and debug and shit. I am going to throw away my SMEG automatic coffee machine now and buy a classic machine that is easily to clean and maintain

Which is the best guys. Do you ahve any espresso machines at home? I was recommended Pavoni's here earlier, but it is high end, and I wonder if there are cheaper espresso machines that just get the job done or is the one by Pavoni actually the one to buy in terms of quality, durability and simplicity?

[Anonymous No.19388617]

As a luddite I'm also interested in this. If I buy one more thing that connects to the internet I'm going to start sending mysterious packages to university professors.

[Anonymous No.19388626]

>>19388617
based

[Anonymous No.19388631]

>>19388608
I'm trying to find machines that look as minimalistic as Pavonis machines but I can't find any. Is this some characteristic of Pavoni or am I just not searching well enough? I don't understand why all machines have to be so clunky rather than simple and nice like the other ones?

[Anonymous No.19388648]

>>19388608
>>19388617
instant coffee, or mcdonalds coffee

everything else is a waste of fucking time

>on death bed
>nooooooo i needed one more espresso shot from my 1250$ machine

[Anonymous No.19388652]

>>19388608
I don't think espresso is worth it unless you have a machine with a very good boiler hooked up to a very good supply of filtered water, and at that point I don't think it's worth it for home use unless you're just that rich and have no issues with space or paying someone to set up and repair if it ever needs it, as well as the fuss of tinkering with it pretty often to keep it making a cup that is marginally representative of what the machine is capable of. I don't even think most restaurants should bother with espresso. They really only should if they make enough of it or can charge the premium to keep a decent barista on staff.

[Anonymous No.19388664]

Just buy a moka pot and make real espresso a cafe treat. not worth the pain.

[Anonymous No.19388682]

>>19388648
i really need that shot though anon

[Anonymous No.19388706]

>>19388608
>smeg
m8 you got a rebranded delonghi

[Anonymous No.19388732]

>>19388608

Go to a cafe like a smart person and get one made professionally by a high quality, industrial quality machine. No bullshit consumer grade espresso machine - whether it is 200 dollars or 2000 dollars - is going to make a good espresso.

For the times you can't go to a café or if you are an Amerifat that lives somewhere that they don't exist or are a 25 minute drive away, use a Moka pot like virtually all of Italy does when they want an espresso without having to go out.

[Anonymous No.19388928]

>>19388631

maybe a "you're never taking the Gaggia"?

[Anonymous No.19388991]

>>19388608
>>smeg
kys

>>19388928
The Honda Civic of espresso machines, indestructible and infinitely repairable + moddable by the user as long as they aren't retarded or a lazy fucking asshole

[Anonymous No.19389502]

>>19388648
>noooo if only I'd spent an extra 2 minutes every day fapping to nigella and shitposting about ja/ck/

[Anonymous No.19389776]

Best machine is either heavy modded Gaggia or a flair pro 2.
Everything else is either several thousand dollars or not quite as good

[Anonymous No.19390107]

>>19388648
>$1250 machine
It's shit
>$2500 machine
You start getting good espresso

[Anonymous No.19390111]

>>19388928
>>19388991
Gaggias suck dick stock. After extensive modding they're passable, but still shit. You're better off with a bambino.

[Anonymous No.19390285]

>>19388617
Just use a french press. Cant really go more luddite than that.

[Anonymous No.19390289]

>>19390107
I would make my own espresso machine before I spent 2500 dollars on 48 dollars worth of garbage thrown together by a minimum wage assembly technician

[Anonymous No.19390299]

>>19390289

No, you would shut the fuck up and buy a $5,000 machine if you wanted commercial quality.

They aren't cheap and cheap don't make good espresso nigga.

[Anonymous No.19390319]

i'll buy a new espresso machine when they're sold for reasonable prices, ie a quarter, with consistently high build quality, ie not assembled by an italian, and are designed by real craftsmen, ie the noble chinese

[Anonymous No.19390389]

>>19388608
I've got a ROK EspressoGC manual espresso maker. Needs a kettle on the side, but it's basically a thick piece of metal, so little can fuck up. Takes some getting used to feel yourself to the right pressure and such though.
Also, quiet. Which is nice in the morning.

[Anonymous No.19390399]

>>19388648
How do you feel about Dunkin coffee? I'll go there if im in need of a quick fix because McD's is too far away and Starbucks is more expensive.

[Anonymous No.19390406]

>>19390111
How do you feel about the Rancilio Silvia for a bit more dough?

[Anonymous No.19390460]

>>19388648
>instant coffee, or mcdonalds coffee
>everything else is a waste of fucking time
Nah. The opposite is true. Either get the best stuff available to you (best =/= most expensive) or don't drink coffee at all. Instant, mcdonalds, 7eleven, starbucks and other cheap trash are not worth the time/money.

[Anonymous No.19390591]

>>19390299
I work in industrial production and you are a retarded consumer

[Anonymous No.19390753]

>>19390460
Starbucks ain't cheap lol

Gas station shit yes

[Anonymous No.19390809]

>>19390591
>I work in industrial production

Making coffee machines?

[Anonymous No.19390816]

>>19388608
Look ANY further anon, this is all you need.

[Anonymous No.19390818]

>>19390816
>*Do not look ANY further

[Anonymous No.19391336]

>>19390289
It will end up a disaster but I'd like to see you try anyway

[Anonymous No.19391339]

>>19390319
For you, the gemilai crm3007

[Anonymous No.19391346]

>>19390406
Silvias are definitely better.

[Anonymous No.19391354]

>>19390399
Someone answer my question about this so I know if I'm drinking garbage or not Lol.

I usually just get a large hot coffee served black or with light cream. Never get the flavored shit or anything more complicated/expensive.

I mean, it's OK. based from my taste perspective. I go there because you can still get a large coffee for under $3 that isn't gas station swill.

For simple comparison a large coffee at Dunkin comes out to $2.96 while at Starbucks it's $3.45.

[Anonymous No.19391465]

>>19391354
You're drinking garbage.

[Anonymous No.19391585]

>>19391465
Ok, why??

and is Starbucks any better?

[Anonymous No.19391736]

>>19390591
And?

You aren't doing 9bar pressure without some real engineering.

[Anonymous No.19392251]

>>19388648
Or just get a French Press and/or Moka Pot and you’re set, retarded fags.

[Anonymous No.19392272]

And now you know why home espresso just isn't done. If it is done it's either:

1. Rubes who wouldn't know good coffee if you hit them over the head with it, or

2. Insufferable autists whose lives revolve around grindrs and Tranny Derangement Syndrome meters and arduino mods and spend way more time arguing about espresso than enjoying it

Leave espresso to the shops where economies of scale make it worth the mess

[Anonymous No.19392287]

>>19392272
that’ll $15 plus tip

[Anonymous No.19392343]

>>19391736
9 bar is fucking nothing. a battery powered tire pump can do 9 bar.

[Anonymous No.19392396]

>>19388608
the real redpill is accepting that espresso is for faggy wops and a drip machine is the proper way to make coffee

[Anonymous No.19392428]

>>19388608
>>19388631
>>19390460
Get a ROK Espresso Maker GC for two handed pressing

[Anonymous No.19392482]

>>19390816
Agreed. I started using one and now buy 1/10th of the coffee I used to when using a french press or percolator. You just need a hot surface, water and coffee, although I use a kettle to dilute it. (You could even get a stove top kettle!) It feels like a reall cool, well designed piece of kit too.

[Anonymous No.19392484]

>>19390285
French press and paper filters are LVDDITE as fuck and both produce amazing coffee.

[Anonymous No.19392487]

>>19392482
This is mine

[Anonymous No.19392495]

Well, actually this one. That other pic is from the internet.

[Anonymous No.19392773]

Why does espresso trigger people so much?

>be me
>like coffee
>prefer extra strong coffee with steamed milk rather than just drip
>have a cheap espresso machine innakitchen because of this
>make what I want

Simple as

[Anonymous No.19392810]

>>19388928
Based. SO fucking based. Literally came here to post this. I bought my Gaggia Classic second hand ~15 years ago and it's still going strong, with only a few minor repairs. An absolute fucking TANK of a machine. Love it so much.

[Anonymous No.19393157]

>>19392487
that's the classic one.

This one is an imitation
>>19390816

Not saying it's worse just that it's not the original

[Anonymous No.19393161]

>>19392495
Why is everything so dirty and grimy Lol

[Anonymous No.19393165]

>>19392773
>cheap espresso machine
Ok so what machine

Because honestly I'm no espresso connoisseur and if there's a cheap machine that makes passable stuff that's all I need really

[Anonymous No.19393174]

>>19392810
>An absolute fucking TANK of a machine.

Aye, those are the types of machines I want. Doesn't break down, doesn't stop. It just WERKS

[Anonymous No.19393229]

>>19393174
Get one, dude. Don't listen to the tossers who dump on it. You don't need to mod the damn thing. Out of the box it produces beautiful shots. Only a complete autist could find fault in it.

[Anonymous No.19393274]

>>19393229
I only recommend doing the 9bar OPV mod. It costs $8 for the part on ebay and 10 minutes of your time, including watching a tutorial on how to do it.

[Anonymous No.19393400]

>>19393274
it all starts with $8 and 10 minutes......then you can't stop.......because you can always go one better

[Anonymous No.19393413]

>>19393400
That's honestly all I've done with my GCP and I'm very happy with it for how much money I spent total. Next machine will probably be in the $1500 range in 5-10 years if Im up for it, I really just want a dual boiler.

[Anonymous No.19393418]

Sometimes I feel like dropping 2-3 grand on an espresso just for the fuck of it

[Anonymous No.19393422]

>$7000
>makes coffee but more expensively

[Anonymous No.19393433]

>>19392396
ok but what drip machine though

[Anonymous No.19393467]

>>19388608
What are your thoughts on the Final Press?

[Anonymous No.19393491]

>>19392484
Paper filter filters out the good oils in coffee.

[Anonymous No.19393526]

>>19390285
Just boil your coffee like God intended

[Anonymous No.19393553]

>>19388608
This is the chud equivalent of soiboys obsessing over craft beer.

Just drink instant coffee or get a French press you fags.

[Anonymous No.19393567]

>>19393467
Reddit tier.

[Anonymous No.19393668]

>>19393526
I would call you retarded but I’m in the bathroom shitting so hard right now that it hurts and I can’t concentrate. Please help me.

[Anonymous No.19393686]

>>19393526
Boiling coffee burns it, not thanks. 94c is more than enough.

[Anonymous No.19393819]

>>19393686
>he doesn't boil his coffee in the Alps

[Anonymous No.19393841]

>>19388608
i mean most of these are going to need at least some level of regular maintenance.
probably why things like
>>19388928
are as popular as they are. make sure parts are available in your country.

[Anonymous No.19393888]

>>19388928
ive still got an old starbucks expresso machine, meant for their brand of pods, but can use ground beans as well.

its nothing great, but its keeps on kickin

[Anonymous No.19393895]

>>19393819
I attach a balloon to mine. I let it rise up to 10,000 ft where the boiling point is about 90°, then automatically descend. I have a radio tracker so I easily locate it when it lands.

[Anonymous No.19393896]

>>19393161
Sorry, I fucked your mom on my kitchen counter last night and I haven't cleaned off her skid marks yet

[Anonymous No.19393917]

>>19391354
Ask yourself the following:
* Do I know what beans they use?
* Where are they from?
* What type of bean?
* When were they roasted?
* How were they roasted?
* How were they prepared for roasting?
* How was the coffee made?
* How much coffee in/out?
* Can you see them pull the shot?
* Did the shot look dark brown or light brown?
* Are they pulling an esspresso shot or are they letting the machine run through?
* Is it esspresso at all? Is it a filter?
If you cant answer any of the above, or if the answers arent to a certain quality, youre drinking shit

[Anonymous No.19394133]

>>19392272
>Insufferable autists whose lives revolve around grindrs and Tranny Derangement Syndrome meters and arduino mods

Kek, what is a Tranny Derangement Syndrome meter??

[Anonymous No.19394134]

>>19393418
Just 1 shot sir?

[Anonymous No.19394434]

>>19393819
Actually no, i live 41 meters above sealevel.