/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.19361181]

How are "acquired tastes" a thing? If you don't like it the first time, why would you try it a second time?

[Anonymous No.19361188]

I read somewhere that we can perceive an odor more acutely the second time we smell it, because our brains have changed to be on the lookout for it. Maybe there's something similar going on with acquired tastes where after the frist time you might mostly perceive a food as being bitter, the second time around your olfactory receptors could pick up on the more subtle aromas in the food.

[Anonymous No.19361197]

>>19361181
idk man, for me it was coffee at first i hated it because of the bitterness but i had to drink it or else id fall asleep, so i guess out of necessity?

[Anonymous No.19361198]

Sometimes it’s the first taste of a food that’s the best. You can never quite replicate the experience

[Anonymous No.19361202]

>>19361181
It's like listening to an album, reading a book, or watching a film that is considered "avant-garde" and lauded by well-known critics. If you're not used to that sort of thing yet you're open-minded enough, you're most likely not going to "get it" in the first listen/reading/viewing, but you'll probably still give it another shot just to really closely examine it and see what all the fuss is about. I'd imagine the same applies when it comes cuisine as well, even though most of the molecular gastronomy industry is a much bigger obvious meme/scam.

[Anonymous No.19361217]

>>19361181
People don't always consume things just because they taste good. People drink coffee for the caffeine, beer to get drunk, and they eat things like pickled vegetables so that they don't starve during winter. Eventually after a while you might get used to it and even enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.19361219]

>>19361181
Tastes grow and change over time.
Sometimes, you might like something more once you know what to expect, and once you're prepared for it, you might find something enjoyable that you didn't notice after the initial shock.

[Anonymous No.19361221]

>>19361181
things change including (You) and your perception of things

[Anonymous No.19361228]

>>19361181
It's like Stockholm Syndrome for your tastebuds.

[Anonymous No.19361230]

>>19361181
Have your music tastes changed, or were you 1 year old and still digging Slayer just as much as you do now?

[Anonymous No.19361242]

>>19361181
adquired taste is born out of necessity anon, i lived in asia when i was little (im originally from mexico) and i at first hated the food but over time i grew to enjoy and now i love asian cuisine.

[Anonymous No.19361259]

I thought diet coke was the grossest thing I'd ever tasted when I was a child. The artificial sweetener aftertaste was so overpowering I didn't even notice a "sweet" aspect to it. Now as an adult regular and diet colas taste almost the same (with regular being a bit cloying). Not that it matters cuz I drink soda only once or twice a year.
Not sure if its from getting used to it, changing tastes, or what.

[Anonymous No.19361274]

it's kinda like when you buy an iphone cause it's the only way you can get laid nowadays and females will shit on you if you have a android

[Anonymous No.19361473]

>>19361274
>it's kinda like when you buy an iphone cause it's the only way you can get laid nowadays and females will shit on you if you have a android
Literally no one cares unless if you're around a bunch of vapid, ultra-materialistic low-IQ whores, or if you're still in high school

[Anonymous No.19361481]

>>19361181
I don't know, ask your mom why she keeps coming back after I slap her

[Anonymous No.19361483]

>>19361473
>a bunch of vapid, ultra-materialistic low-IQ whores
you mean 99% of modern people?

[Anonymous No.19363053]

eh i used to be a very picky eater. i didn't like onions, chili, tomatoes, pepper, nuts, curry, alcohol, most vegetables, etc. and would eat very plain foods. i still don't like beans or seafood but other than that i'll eat pretty much anything that's commonly consumed

[Anonymous No.19363154]

>>19361181
It's called addiction. Notice how almost all the "acquired tastes" are things that contain substances that lead to chemical dependence
>beer
>cigars
>whisky
>coffee
>wine
>etc
Retards get themselves hooked on harmful substances and then later cope by pretending to have "acquired a taste" rather than simply developed an addiction.

[Anonymous No.19363345]

>>19361181
The aftertaste lingers in your mouth the entire day. When you get cravings it's the first thing you think about.

[Anonymous No.19363968]

>>19361181
when I was in college I started drinking beer, it was nasty. but after getting drunk a few times I "acquired" a taste for it.

when I left college and had no reason to drink, I didn't drink beer for 2 years.

had a party and tried drinking beer again. somehow I un-acquired the taste and find the taste of beer nasty.

otherwise I have never acquired a taste for anything, I either liked it or did not like it.

case in point. fish, didn't like it when I was kid, tried it multiple times over the years all sorts of way that people swear are really tasty.

I still find the taste and smell of fish disgusting, not bad or icky DISGUSTING.

[Anonymous No.19363975]

>>19361259
I have never gotten used to the after taste of artificial sweeteners. there is no fake sweetener that taste anything other than bad. I've tried them all for over 40 years.

[Anonymous No.19364171]

>>19361181
I try eating stuff I hate every year or so to see if anything changes.
I recently was finally able to stomach marshmallows.

[Anonymous No.19364181]

>>19361181
Kids have stronger tastebuds than adults so they are picky eaters, as adults we better handle strong or bitter flavors, at least this is my take on it

[Anonymous No.19364192]

>>19363975
That's genetic. Erythritol is one of the only ones that isn't outright offensive. And maltilol, but it's extremely laxative.

[Anonymous No.19364201]

>>19361197
>because of the bitterness
how many people on earth don't know you're supposed to put milk and sugar in it?

[Anonymous No.19364203]

>>19363968
There's a background something in seafood that makes me gag. I've had it fresh, not fresh, multiple types. It's just a very unpleasant flavor that's like drinking the filthy water the thing was living in.

[Anonymous No.19364800]

>>19361181
Maybe it was done Wrong the first time....But this presents a paradox... It's NOT so much that it's done wrong, It just ISN't Actually done...
Oh. my -- Now I have to THINK again.

[Anonymous No.19364806]

>>19361219
This is a BASED and HONEST poast.

[Anonymous No.19364827]

>>19361181
we don't like thinking of it like this but it's just like training a dog. Pair it with a happy stimulus (could be as simple as thinking that you like it) and you eventually will. Trained myself to like fish this way.

[Anonymous No.19364898]

>>19361228
Good choice of words.
Usually complimented by tastebuds weakening by the time you hit your 20s, and the brain freaking less out over stimuli.
That said, parents can fuck up and then you have kids who can't each squishy firm things or crunchy strong flavor wet items.

>>19361259
>regular and diet colas taste almost the same
No. Depending on your diet and coating of your tongue, the flavor profile changes.
But sugar is sweet, and aspartame has extremely bitter flavor notes. Sucralose + acusulfam k might be the best blend until somebody manages to create a okay Stevia blend. Even then all sweeteners has completely different flavor profiles, sadly.

[Anonymous No.19364924]

Your palate changes over time. Kids have more sensitive taste buds, so they prefer blander, less spicy things. Similarly, you can acquire tolerances that can negatively affect your palate. Americans put way too much corn syrup in their food, so it can take a while for their palate to adjust to normal food. The opposite is true for foreigners moving to the US and finding everything is far too sweet. But if you keep at it, you'll eventually adjust.

[Anonymous No.19365007]

>>19361181

>Try vegetable
>Ew gross icky ahh
>Stop eating like a retarded American
>Stop eating processed slop
>Stop eating added sugar
>Stop eating McDonald's
>Gut microbiome changes
>Brain changes
>Eat same vegetable again
>Wow yum yum I can eat like an actual human being now

Just one example. Tastes change depending on what you're used to. You can build tolerance to spicy food, you can desensitize yourself to salt to the point you need piles of it just to taste anything. The human body is an adaptation machine.

[Anonymous No.19365039]

>>19364201
More than half considering most people drink coffee black. Coffee with cream and sugar isn't even coffee anymore.

[Anonymous No.19365116]

>>19361202
this

First time you have spicy food all you can perceive is the heat. Next time you take a small bite and consider the flavor. Maybe you like it, maybe you don't, maybe you try it again. I think that is how acquired tastes work.

[Anonymous No.19365117]

>>19361181
>he doesn't acquire taste
cringe

[Anonymous No.19365120]

>>19365007
>you can desensitize yourself to salt to the point you need piles of it just to taste anything.
How to reverse this process? My plate always has a layer of snow.

[Anonymous No.19365133]

>>19364924
>implying kids strong taste buds don't apply to sweet things
As a kid I found marshmallows to be disgusting but as an adult I don't.

[Anonymous No.19365262]

>>19361181
Some tastes change with growing up
Other things have a complex taste and you just don't appreciate it the first time

[Anonymous No.19365264]

>>19361197
That's stockholm syndrome

[Anonymous No.19365294]

>>19361181
Food to some isn't just some shit you pick up at the store or vendor.

[Anonymous No.19365838]

>>19365294
>i have to eat it because it's my culture and tradition says so
fuck that shit. if it tastes bad, i ain't eating.

[Anonymous No.19365927]

>>19364201
The problem is that American mass produced coffee tastes awful so you gotta mix slop in there to make it palatable. Buy the actual beans and process them yourself. Pre made grounds will have dirt, sand, and other shit in it.

[Anonymous No.19365933]

>>19365927
>Source: Dude, trust me I'm brown

[Anonymous No.19365949]

>>19365927
No anon, that is wrong.
What has happened is that bitterer blacker coffee is significantly more tasteful, which pairs very well with cream and syrup and spices. The problem is again that its significantly more bitter, which means its rare to find people tolerating the taste outside of coffee addicted office workers and blue collar workers drinking 1l-1,5l a day to drown their sorrows.

[Anonymous No.19366434]

>>19364203
>It's just a very unpleasant flavor that's like drinking the filthy water the thing was living in.
yes. I have noticed this. some fish taste like a mossy stream smells.

[Anonymous No.19366439]

>>19364924
>Kids have more sensitive taste buds, so they prefer blander, less spicy things.
nonsense I like spiced up foods as a kid and I am a picky eater. hell spices are what made most foods palatable.

fish
broccoli
nothing makes them palatable.

[Anonymous No.19366447]

>>19365007
>Gut microbiome changes
sorry dude multiple studies have shown that city dwellers microbiome hardly changes at all because produce is cleaned to well.

[Anonymous No.19366449]

>>19365007
>Eat same vegetable again
>Wow yum yum
that will never happen.

[Anonymous No.19366451]

>>19365949
>bitterer blacker coffee is significantly more tasteful
the opposite is true. dark roasted coffee has had almost all flavor burned out of it, lighter roasts have way better flavor profile.

[Anonymous No.19366456]

>>19365007
Jesus you non Americans obsess over us to a hardcore degree lmao. I've never eaten anything other than locally produced food. The sane can't be said for you.

[Anonymous No.19366459]

>>19361181
I know this is a lot for your child brain to comprehend, sometimes things are prepared in such a way as to make them unpleasant. Today I had soggy greasy potato hash at a restaurant now if I were like you I would go through the rest of my life thinking potatoes suck, but I'm not an idiot.

[Anonymous No.19366460]

>>19366439
Maybe for your retarded sense of taste

[Anonymous No.19366464]

>>19366459
This is common in yurope

[Anonymous No.19366472]

>man hungery
>man find weird berry
>man cautious
>berry tastes unfamiliar, man spits out
>man worried but not dead
>next day, try berry again
>berry not actually even that bad now that man really thinks about it
>man now acquired taste for weird berry
a short story about man, from a man

[Anonymous No.19366493]

Children, downies, and autists tend to stick to what they’re familiar with. If you eat nothing but french fries, tendies, soda, and ketchup/bbq sauce/honey mustard (when you’re feeling adventurous) it can be a pretty big leap trying anchovies or liver pate or raw oysters – or really anything that’s salty, or tart, or bitter. It’s kind of like if you viewed the world in black and white with only the occasional hint of red/yellow/blue, but then found yourself in a lush green forest, were overwhelmed by this nasty “green” shit, and vowed to never leave your basement again.

Another apt analogy would be jazz. If you listen to nothing but top 40 pop garbage and then hear Ornette Coleman you might think your ears are on fire, but if you get a little more into music and start learning about different styles and maybe taking up an instrument and studying a little theory, all of a sudden, your autotuned, 2 chord trap beat trending-on-ticktock mega hit sounds like nails on a chalkboard.

Also, like, eating vagina. Kind of weird the first couple times. Then you find yourself single and are waking up to dreams of diving straight in.

Pro-tip: if a lot of people like a thing and it seems like they’re just being contrarian and pretending to like it to seem “mature”, you’re probably the one who doesn’t understand. Nobody is saying you need to like everything, but having preferences isn’t the same thing as being a picky eater, and trying something once and swearing it off forever is pretty much the definition of being a picky eater.

[Anonymous No.19366495]

>>19366493
Ok chud

[Anonymous No.19366505]

>>19366472
>hungery
Retard

[Anonymous No.19366506]

>>19366495
That might be the least chud post I've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.19366510]

>>19366506
Sure thing chud

[Anonymous No.19366521]

>>19366505
you seem a bit... angery

[Anonymous No.19366549]

>>19363154
except you have
>vegemite
>sushi
>natto
>blue cheese
>smoked fish
>anchovies
>spinach
etc.etc.

[Anonymous No.19366561]

>>19361181
most tastes are acquired, there is a lot of bitching about how dieters are faking liking their cut food or black coffee drinkers are faking preferring bean water over zoomer cake drinks but i think there would be a lot more lardos and manchildren that only eat hot dogs and mac and cheese than there already are if there were zero way to develop some kind of morbid enjoyment of a food in spite of its initial repulsiveness or blandness

most spicy and bitter food is like this, you are literally supposed to hate it. it's a defense mechanism. you are supposed to treat it like poison

>>19366456
most people disparaging the American diet on here are Americans. at least i know i am

>>19361259
i grew up with diet coke and the taste of non-diet sodas is overwhelmingly sugary sweet to me, not worth the calories of a bowl of rice. i can fuck up a can of picrel on occasion tho

[Anonymous No.19366565]

>>19366561
We can see your ip retard lmao. You will never be American.

[Anonymous No.19366608]

>>19361181
spoiled dino nugget brat never had to try things he didn't like. your gut biome is a barren desert

[Anonymous No.19366612]

>>19366451
Nope anon.
Words don't mean the wrong things because you say them.
Dark roast has more flavor AND more flavor notes. But you can't taste most of it because the flavors don't align well, alongside excessive acidity and sourness. The roast flavor itself is also excessive on a lot of darker roasts, usually overpowering some of the more interesting flavor notes.
You then add milk, which balances the sourness and bitterness allowing you to taste more. And then the fat, sugar and salt amplifies the remaining tastes, which also generally compliment the taste of milk but cream even more so.

Generally lighter roasts are better than darker roasts because the roaster picks better beans for it, and generally try to stop the roasting at a level where the flavors compliment each other more.

[Anonymous No.19366618]

>>19366561
>the taste of non-diet sodas is overwhelmingly sugary sweet to me
I'm envious of you guys. Those sweeteners taste cloyingly sweet and also bitterly chemical. Diet root beer and some cream sodas can kill the aftertaste. If something is advertised as sugar free in a bakery, I can guarantee it'll be inedible from being nasty sweet though.

[Anonymous No.19366940]

>>19361219
This
Also sometimes you think you hate a food when actually the first time you tried it out was just badly made.
Brussels sprouts are the worst offenders for this
Boomers fucking love boiling them for some reason which makes them turn out bitter, flavourless and gross
Proper way to prepare them is roasting them with butter and spices

[Anonymous No.19366956]

>>19361181
>If you don't like it the first time, why would you try it a second time?
For me, it was beer.
Not a huge fan at first, but the cultural aspects led me to keep trying.

[Anonymous No.19369101]

>>19366956
so basically, you were pressured by society into poisoning your liver and killing your brain cells.

[Anonymous No.19369676]

>>19361259
I felt the tastes were a lot more distinct when I was a kid as well, but as a teen I stopped drinking sweet drinks entirely for about a year. when I came back it was diet exclusively, and the next time I tried the real thing I could scarcely tell the difference anymore.

[Anonymous No.19369747]

>>19366456
why is it that whenever someone criticizes america in any way, there's only one of 2 responses
>lmao obsessed
or
>*screeching about migrants being imported into europe*

[Anonymous No.19369770]

>>19361181
>why would you try it a second time
Things change. Try it.

[Anonymous No.19369900]

Taste is something that grows as you grow as a person, I remember when I was like 14 years old and sushi started getting popular among my fren group
Long story short my autistic ass nearly threw up the first time I put raw fish in my mouth, but I kept kept eating to avoid looking like a faggt
10+ years laters and I go out for sushi whenever I have a chance, also took classes but it's too frustrating to find good sushi fish where I live