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Anons, are Chinese foods safe to eat, when purchased in the West?
I've been to third world places before, and I'm an Eastern Euro myself (basically third world itself) - it's a basic fact that third world food production is notoriously shitty quality with notoriously high levels of corner-cutting, lacing with fillers, and so on.

Any anons can offer experience / advice?
Also, I'm not a fan of globohomo Western slop either, so you won't see me guzzling corn syrup, but at least that corn syrup probably won't have lead in it.
Particularly concerned about meat products originating in China - any elevated risk of harm from those?
Elevated risk of mad cow disease, etc?

>> No.19325609

>>19325490
I don't know about western Europe but here in the USA they're safe. The sale of meat products and other food products is regulated by the FDA. If you're worried about the food safety of a particular restaurant, you can simply look at their health inspection rating posted outside.

>> No.19325617

You won't be able to purchase Chinese foods in the US unless it's passed some sort of quality control, otherwise it won't be imported. Not saying there isn't some black market in back alley of a no-go zone Chinatown ghetto, but you won't find the bad stuff at a normal food market.

>> No.19325648

>>19325617
>>19325609
That makes sense - the market IS in Chinatown, and it's kind of small - the area is notorious for having all kinds of imports, but the packaging DOES say "made in the USA".

Is there any way I can check if something specific passed FDA guidelines?
Like, if perhaps it's in a database of some sort?

>> No.19325673

>>19325617
>bribery
>outright testing fraud
>counterfeiting epidemic
yeah nah

>> No.19325922
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>>19325490
None of its safe to eat. It's all cooked in gutter oil

>> No.19326308

>>19325922
>>19325673

>>19325617
>>19325609

The duality of man.
So, which is true?

>> No.19326380

>>19325490
IDK about safe but there's a ton of fake products. The other day i bought a bottle of aged vinegar from my local chink mart, it was just regular vinegar.

>> No.19326386

>>19325490
It's safe as long as you consider gutter oil safe

>> No.19326463

>>19325609
Generally speaking firms must register with FDA and list their activities with FDA (i.e. importer, distributor, manufacturer). If you want to sell food products in the US the firm needs a quality system (probably ISO 9001) which gives you the gist of how to do stuff.

Given that the manufacturer is registered with FDA and are selling food products into the US the CFR does not allow for any labeling to be misleading in any particular (i.e. if it says 100% whole wheat , it must be 100% whole wheat). FDA can come audit you and if FDA determines that you are not meeting the requirements of the quality system and/or the law you FDA can go after the firm for both civil and criminal penalties.

To understand how autistic FDA gets if there is not a robust test that can prove something is "-free" (i.e. latex free) FDA does not allow manufacturers to label their items as such.

FDA has establishment and registration but as far as food goes, I am unsure if this information is available. You can read the CFR for certain food products which define them.

t. Works with FDA med device

>> No.19326480

>>19326463
Hey gubbermint anon.
The particular product I'm looking at is listing itself as having been made in the U.S.A., and as being FDA compliant, but I cannot find a single thing about it anywhere.

I am unsure as to whether the labels might be fake then?
This market is extremely popular, but it is also quite sketchy.

DOES say it was inspected by the U.S. department of agriculture.
I'd really love to eat it, but am concerned.

>> No.19326482
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>>19325490
Its not safe any more

>> No.19326504 [DELETED] 

>>19326463
Nice when the system works as theoretically designed, but you underestimate the levels of deception at play. Tried buying anything from Amazon lately?

>> No.19326508

>>19326480
>particular product
Can you just tell us what it actually is? That might help a lot.

>> No.19326532

>>19326482
Well that's not Chinese. That's from Chickenfest. Which is closed. Permanently.

>> No.19326540

>>19325673
>bribery
Then they better register that with the IRS or they have hell to pay
>outright testing fraud
FDA has sued for less
>counterfeiting epidemic
Not the FDA's department. That's the CDC. Unless you're talking about raw food. In which case what the hell is wrong with you? Why put that in your mouth? Are you stupid?

>> No.19326544

>>19326480
Being made in the USA means, usually, the final manufacturing step occurred in the US.

FDA compliant is a weird claim, everything is FDA compliant.

In any event I'll save you the trouble, since you're spazzing out: do you believe the controls provided by FDA and the quality system are sufficient to ensure the safety of your food? If not, don't buy it/eat it or alternately send it to a lab for testing about whatever it is you're concerned about (i.e. lead).

Quality system basically says the manufacturer will inspect, test, and if the product is released recall it. FDA is there to fuck you when you don't follow it (and if they find out)

>>19326504
See above. We could ask da gubermints/ labs to test every lot prior to release but that would be extremely burdensome and 100% retarded.

>> No.19326546

>>19326482
wtf not even salt and pepper

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>>19325490
>Particularly concerned about meat products originating in China
You won't get any of that. US does not import any meat from China, nor the EU. If anything, China imports meat from them. If you see raw meat with chinese words on it in a Chinatown market, here's the secret: it's local food.
And if it's local, it's the USDA FSIS that does inspection.

>t.Regulatory Affairs for Big Pharma
>t.Consultant in Big Beef

>> No.19326612

>>19326576
>Big Pharma
Ah so you're the motherfucker that's been poisoning or population with an experimental vaccone....... *cracks knuckles*

>> No.19326666

>>19326612
I wish. Those bastards got it easy. FDA is such a goddamn stickler for every last fucking detail.

I worked in combination products. Where there was no operation warpspeed to speed up the approval process. Had to go through the whole song and dance and the FDA kicked our asses for every small detail. Some of them I knew were coming but could do nothing about. That's what sucked.

>> No.19327114

>>19325490
>when purchased in the West?
no fucking way, wouldn't be surprised if they're poisoning it more now

>> No.19327386

>>19327114
1) They don't poison foreigners. Dead Americans can't spend money of cheap Chinese products. They save the poisoned shit for themselves as Chinese, and I'm quoting Chinese netizens here, "Are playing life on hard mode" so they expect to get tainted meat.
2) Even if they did, Chinese still wouldn't do it. China still can't match American, Canadian, or EU food standards, so the only ones exporting food or drink out of China are Western companies using cheap Chinese labor to cut prices on their final product. Like apple juice.

>> No.19329106

bump

>> No.19330887

>>19325490
idk but my friend started dating a chinese girl and they let me try a bunch of chinese snacks and noodles

she said she bought some of that stuff off yamibuy and they don't sell it at asian markets near here

>> No.19330892

>>19326463
>>19325617
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2022/02/more-dried-plums-recalled-over-potential-lead-contamination/

I see articles like this all the time. Seems like nothing's being tested.

>> No.19330921

>>19326666
i believe this anon, FDA tends to be a stickler, as does USDA. mail service is not until they catch you doing some shit. us gov't is all sorts of compartmentalized and each bit has its own personality.
also, how'd you get in? i have a degree that would be applicable in the FDA but i haven't hunted down a job in there yet.

>> No.19331535

>>19330892
Because if it's already gotten approval of some kind they're not going to come back around unless enough reports have come through. That would be insanely costly.