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19324172 No.19324172 [Reply] [Original]

why can't I let the dough rise in the form? why would I need to do it in some nerd basket?

>kneed
>rise
>form the dough
>final rise in the form

>> No.19324174

99% of anything you're being told you need to do through widespread internet media cooking discourse, you don't need to do. Just make food the way we've been making it for centuries.
>make dough
>let rise
>bake dough

>> No.19324200

>>19324172
cause then you'd have to put a cold ass baking vessel in the oven getting a shitty rise for 30 minutes to reach max temperature. Did you completely miss the point of the benefit of cast iron? fucking hell mate get your life together

>> No.19324214

>>19324172
My wife believes (a) each nerd basket has its own personality since they're porous, (b) initial gluten formation or whatever the fuck needs to be done very symetrically for good crumb, and (c) the final rise is more about stretching the glutens into the pan shape and then letting it rise into the pan.

Thing is, I beat someone in a public taste-off who literally built their own brick oven, ground their own shit, and had their own yeast strain with literally a goodwill $20 bread machine. Basic white, a bit heavy on oil, rest, rise, roll out square, dried wild blueberries + cinnamon and sugar + butter, roll it up, cinnamon blueberry swirl bread suck my dick hippie faggot

But I also concede my wife has valid points so I'm truly conflicted on this one

>> No.19324271

>>19324172
Useful when you want consistant bread slices for sandwich making

>> No.19324273

>>19324214
>Thing is, I beat someone in a public taste-off who literally built their own brick oven, ground their own shit, and had their own yeast strain with literally a goodwill $20 bread machine. Basic white, a bit heavy on oil, rest, rise, roll out square, dried wild blueberries + cinnamon and sugar + butter, roll it up, cinnamon blueberry swirl bread suck my dick hippie faggot
you probably had shit judges at your gay little competition

>> No.19324283

>>19324273
still, he has won and you didnt.

>>19324200
so bake it 30min longer?

>> No.19324288

>>19324174
Correct. Fuck "food science" cucks and test kitchens. All of that shit only exists as a means to promote and sell useless products to idiots with too much money.

>> No.19324329

it's your bread, you can do whatever you want with it.

>> No.19324355

>>19324174
This
But if you want to use dutch oven you need to preheat it, otherwise the dough will not rise.
If you don't want to use the dutch oven just toss the dough into the oven.

>> No.19324373

>>19324174
sorry bro, Im not a liberal

>> No.19324610

>>19324172
chainbaker on youtube can tell you why.

>> No.19324854

>>19324373
"If it isn't broke don't fix it" is quintessentially conservative. Not even retarded politically conservative just literally so.

>> No.19324995

>>19324283
All the benefits of using cast iron for bread are in the first 15 minutes

>> No.19325012

>>19324172
The point of a cast iron baking vessel is to blast the dough with heat early on to set the structure and give it good oven spring.
If you're putting a cold cast iron vessel into the oven with the dough already in it, you're wasting your time. Might as well just use an aluminum pan which is easier to deal with otherwise.

>> No.19325283

>>19324214
>Basic white, a bit heavy on oil, rest, rise, roll out square, dried wild blueberries + cinnamon and sugar + butter, roll it up, cinnamon blueberry swirl bread suck my dick hippie faggot
That's cake.

>> No.19325293

op here. just made glutenfree bread in a pan. soft, smooth, excellent crumb. just I wish there was something that could drown out the taste of the psyllium husks. that's kinda nasty

>> No.19325492

>>19324283
That's not how spring works asshole.

>> No.19327029

>>19325012
If anything putting a cold cast iron into the oven would only make it take longer to get ho to temperature

>> No.19327676

>>19324172
Anon, considering the picture you used.
a.) The cast iron is supposed to be preheated in the oven before you put in dough in it.
b.) Depending on the recipe, you might want to use a lid to trap steam inside.
c.) The basket is supposed to give a loaf shape as it doesn't have a flat bottom. You turn the basket upside down and let the dough plop out. If and how the basket was weaved it can leave texture on top of the loaf to make it more visually appealing.

>> No.19327691

>>19324174
>>19324172
you cant make bread on your own its impossible. you need a bread machine

>> No.19327708

Can you use glass instead of cast iron? It probably won't retain quite as much heat, but it should still retain a fair amount right?

>> No.19327750

>>19327676
>suppose
says who?

>> No.19327858

>>19327750
>says who?
Says I.

>> No.19328603

>>19327858
yeah but you are not my mom

>> No.19328871

>>19328603
>he doesn't know

>> No.19329889

>>19327708
Glass is a poor heat conductor.
It'll leave your loaf underbrowned more than anything else.
I use glass pans and end up having to take the loaf out and put it on the oven rack by the mid-way point.

>> No.19329902

I literally have never used a pan to bake my bread. I just plomp it on a hot ceramic pizza stone and call it a day. It's not the most aesthetic, but it's always tasty.

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>>19329902
That's not the worst way to do it. I've done it on a regular old cast iron skillet that's been pre heated before a few times, it actually works pretty well.

>> No.19329940

>>19325283
American bread always is