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French press or italian moka way of making coffee? Which is superior?

>> No.19275712

French press. I love Moka pot coffee but I know it's vile sludge. Just gotta make sure you grind your coffee coarse enough for the French press.

>> No.19275719

>>19275691
>I love Moka pot coffee but I know it's vile sludge
that sounds a bit contradictory

>> No.19275749

>>19275691
Moka pot is comparitive to espresso, where as french press would be similar to pourover or drip. If you like espresso but can't afford a machine to do it properly, moka pot can get you most of the way there. French press is a more standard coffee that lets more oils through than filter coffee.

>> No.19275751

>>19275691
instant desu

>> No.19275759

>>19275691
Mugs like this make me hate women (even more).

>> No.19275788
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>>19275691
pour over
aka a fucking coffee machine

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also

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>>19275691
french press I think

>> No.19276401

>>19275749
are you supposed to drink the spresso quickly or?

>> No.19276406

>>19275933
lost

>> No.19276409

>>19275719
Who the fuck are you quoting?

>> No.19276410

>>19275788
this anything else is for queers

>> No.19276488

>""""French"""" press
>it's actually italian
Like the vast majority of useful coffee innovations, it comes from Italy, lol.

>> No.19276501

>>19275788
I looked into replacing my coffee maker with one, because I'm scared of plastics, and they're all like $50 for what is essentially a glass funnel. Lol.

>> No.19276503

>>19276488
Very cool, Guippedo

>> No.19276505

>>19276501
Wait higher quality materials cost more? I'm shocked I tell you, shocked.

>> No.19276531

>>19275691
I vastly prefer moka pot coffee. I tried french press and pour over and drip coffee, and it's always just watery trash you'd have to drink 3 pots of to feel anything.

>> No.19276852

>>19276505
It's a glass funnel, you pathetic paypig, there's no plausible reason it should cost more than an electronic device that requires assembly in a factory.

>> No.19277009

>>19276852
Your plastic body alu element mr coffee is cheaper to produce than a metal body copper element Technivorm. Technivorm is also sourcing better glass for their carafes. Hario is a lab glass manufacturer. Turns out higher quality glass fab comes at a price. You should have figured this shit out by now.

>> No.19277118

>>19275933
kek, i had 4chan friends in the past who would buy each other stupid things like this

>> No.19277360

>>19276488
A French press, also known as a cafetière, cafetière à piston, caffettiera a stantuffo, press pot, coffee press, or coffee plunger, is a coffee brewing device, although it can also be used for other tasks.

>The earliest known device was patented in 1852 in France by Jacques-Victor Delforge and Henri-Otto Mayer.

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>>19277009
>v60 glass folded over 9,000 times for superior Nippon goffee.
>use same glass maker that make Unit 731 test tubes
>N...NO GIAJIN, v60 original Nippon design. It no Chemex clone

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>>19277369
>>use same glass maker that make Unit 731 test tubes
They are the glass maker retard.
>HARIO has been planning, manufacturing and selling heatproof glass since its very inception — and is the only manufacturer with a heatproof glass factory in Japan.

>> No.19278420

>>19276488
thank you italy

>> No.19278478

a true coffee degenerate drinks dalgona coffee

>> No.19279229

>>19276401
It was invented because the lazy wops took such long coffee breaks that no work ever got done. Condensing the coffee into a shot was the only way to get them to finish in under an hour.

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>>19275933

>> No.19279270

>>19279229
From Italy here.
Whether this is actually true or not, it's literally the exact same story I've heard pretty much my entire life, lol, so I would guess that it likely is.

>>19277360
>patented in 1852
I think that they claim to have invented it, but no patents were actually filed. AFAIA, the first patent was 1928 /by Italians/. An update/improvement to the design was filed in 19...58 (I think?), which is the design used today, by Somethingname Bondanini, though I think he was (is?) Swiss Italian.

>>19278420
Italians also invented the one-way valve (the little "button" you see on packages of coffee) that maintains freshness of coffee shipped across the world and an even more recent, though still little used, brewing method using superfine mesh. Similar to a chinois, the mesh is so fine, that it looks and feels like a solid sheet of metal or ceramic but water can pass through it just fine. They call it "SoftBrew."

>> No.19279408

>>19279270
as far as i am?
what are you trying to acronymonize here

>> No.19279414

>>19275719
"Eating bad ramen can be fun too"

>> No.19279439

>>19275691
Coffee bros they cut the gas in the whole building because they are fixing some shit
It's Grimm I spent all day without my bean juice
The only other option I have us fucking Starbucks
What can I do? Can I just chew the bean?

>> No.19279477

>>19279408
As Far As I'm Aware, I would guess.
Or could be a typo of AFAIK.

>> No.19279719

>>19279439
coldbrew

>> No.19279811

>>19279439
Get an electric kettle.

>> No.19279815

>>19275691
Moka is better for milk drinks, but I don't like drinking it black. I prefer french press or pourover for that.

>> No.19279868

>>19279439
this is an acceptable reason to buy a small Keurig for your officespace. You also become the clutch guy when coffee is out of order with the others.

>> No.19281467

>>19279229
this sounds accurate

>> No.19281640

>>19276501
I use a strainer and prop it up on cans of varying heights. Add boiling water, bing bang boom.

>> No.19282074

>>19277369
>chemex mongoloid at it again

>> No.19282082

>>19275751
Unfathomably based

>> No.19282140

>>19275691
>can't see what level the coffee is at because it's a ceramic mug
now what was the point of that?

>> No.19282218

French press is better in theory, but if you buy cheap/low quality coffee the quality/imperfections will definitely be more noticeable in a press vs moka pot. High quality, freshly ground coffee in a French press >>>>>> any other kind of coffee. But if you buy Folgers or whatever bulk/cheap coffee grains are near you, moka pot is preferable because it won't taste like ass.

>> No.19282323

>>19282140
Thank God someone said it. Whoever designed this cup is a caffeine fried dumbass

>> No.19282385

I'm a savage who grinds beans in some 10$ dollar blade cutter before chucking it into a kettle to boil. Any tips how to improve this experience without introducing more tools? I try to make the grain size a little larger than caster sugar.
It's probably not close to any real coffee but still miles better than instant.

>> No.19282417

>>19275691
I just use my moka pot because when I use a french press the filter gradually turns cursed

>> No.19282431

>>19282385
Yeah man, stop doing it that way.

>> No.19283155

>>19282218
interesting

>> No.19284299

>>19282385
Boil the water before adding grounds. And get a fucking strainer of some kind you retard gorilla nigger. A French press is literally a carafe with a strainer.

>> No.19285603

>>19284299
I didn't mention but I do boil the water before adding the grounds. The kettle itself has a rough strainer in the spout. The method is to boil for x minutes and let it rest about the same time so the grounds sink to the bottom. Pour out just a little initially as there's always some which has risen to the top. Then pour out ~90-95% and leave the sludge and grounds at the bottom.
This kind of coffee isn't unnecessarily bitter or anything and doesn't have grounds floating around if done right. Just looking for anything I could improve on without adding a french press or such.

>> No.19285685

>>19275691
French press for breakfast
Moka for everything else

>> No.19285687

>>19279229
Reality revolves around italians

>> No.19286405

>>19285687
Indeed. Rome? Rome. Head of catholics, king of the Mediterranean and heir of the roman empire; the greatest empire to ever exist. Also latin. Italians are the protagonists of the fabric of reality.