/ctg/ Coffee Time General

[Anonymous No.19177262]

Thread for discussing coffee and coffee-related topics.

Trained, certified and gainfully employed edition

If you're new or confused, start here: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLz

If you're old and confused, get paid for making any coffee lately?

Previous thread:>>19164958

[Anonymous No.19177267]

>>19177262
Is Mr.Ramsay a coffee enjoyer?

[Anonymous No.19177275]

>>19177267
he serves as a movable goal post

[Anonymous No.19177296]

>>19177267
No he just likes pressing buttons and larping.

[Anonymous No.19177316]

>>19177262
>Sage

God I fucking hate this Reddit brand, I don’t care if they make the best coffee ever I just HATE it

[Anonymous No.19177325]

>>19177262
>get paid for making any coffee lately?
love is a form of mayment

[Anonymous No.19177355]

>>19177267
Does he get pay to enjoy coffee though?

[Anonymous No.19177382]

>>19177355
Can you really say you enjoy coffee if you don't get paid to do it?

[Anonymous No.19177393]

>>19177382
>>19177355
Barista
>One who enjoys coffee
https://public.oed.com/contribute-to-the-oed/submission-form/

[Anonymous No.19177408]

>>19177382
>tfw roaster has loyalty points
>get to order free goffee beanz beccoz enough loyal
feels good man

[Anonymous No.19177446]

>>19177408
Feels good indeed.

[Anonymous No.19177506]

>>19177446
Sirs please leave the oils alone sirs
Pleas do the needful sirs.
Please advise via telephonic communication

[Anonymous No.19177644]

>>19177262
>breville oracle
Is he a barista?

[Anonymous No.19177662]

>>19177644
You're not fooling me with that ai generated bullshit. You think a guy who graduated top of his class at The Cookery School at Daylesford would drink that piss?

[Anonymous No.19177680]

So whos the best bean producer in the world?
What do i buy?

[Anonymous No.19177700]

>>19177680
La Palma y El Tucan.

[Anonymous No.19177719]

>>19177700
>La Palma y El Tucan.
The hotel? or two separate producers?
Gracias uey

[Anonymous No.19177760]

>>19177719
I think they do it all. They've got cabins and shit on the property. On the cheaper side I also really like Loma La Gloria(El Salvador) and Monteblanco(Columbia).
>LPET is a farm, mill, and coffee tourism destination tucked in the mountains of Zipacon, Cundinamarca.
https://forward.coffee/collections/la-palma-y-el-tucan
https://www.instagram.com/lapalmayeltucan/?hl=en

[Anonymous No.19177769]

>>19177262
>wake up
>put instant coffee in mug
>go to sink and fill with water
>throw in microwave for a minute
>drink

[Anonymous No.19177781]

>>19177760
>LPET is a farm, mill, and coffee tourism destination
You do not become king bean producer faffing aroung. I now doubt your suggestions bear any weight.

[Anonymous No.19177782]

>>19177769
sounds like a horrible way to start your day

[Anonymous No.19177797]

how do you find out the objectively best ground to water ratio?

[Anonymous No.19177838]

>>19177797
to add to this, how do you know how long to steep?

[Anonymous No.19178011]

>>19177781
They bought a farm, stripped out half the crops, and replanted it to be entirely organic permaculture. They only grow S tier. I'm not sure if you're ready for it.
>The nearly 45-acre farm includes about 10 acres of protected natural forest, with the remaining 35 acres dedicated to growing coffee, including experimental and rare varieties such as Gesha and Sidra. The property is also home to their state-of-the-art processing facility, where their team meticulously tracks, weighs, depulps, washes, and dries coffee. Every detail (even pH and sugar content) is recorded in a spreadsheet and each lot is sorted by hand to ensure perfection. It’s this dedication that’s enabled La Palma y El Tucán to produce some of the best coffees in the world -- one sip and you know the difference.

[Anonymous No.19178254]

>>19177838
also what about temperature vs ambient temperature and altitude?

[Anonymous No.19178526]

Just acquired a Fellow "Carter" mug, we will see if this is finally the non-dogshit insulated mug I have been looking for my entire life

[Anonymous No.19178547]

>>19178526
lol
it sucks and it'll smell like caca

[Anonymous No.19178551]

>>19178547
Cope

[Anonymous No.19178611]

>>19178254
just bee yourself

[Anonymous No.19178656]

>>19178526
I've had mine for a few weeks now, liking it so far.

[Anonymous No.19178661]

>>19178656
If I try this thing out tomorrow and it sucks, you're getting raped

[Anonymous No.19178700]

The baristas in the hotel have properly extracted the buffet filter coffee. This trip is gonna be great

[Anonymous No.19178735]

>>19178700
Imagine not traveling with a ziplock full of beans, a timemore c3, and an aeropress.

[Anonymous No.19179403]

Best multi style manual grinder for maximum 170€?
I mainly use it for espresso and moka but I’m also interested in trying V60 and aeropress.

My eyes are on the 1Zpresso JX pro S

[Anonymous No.19179414]

>>19177262
He likes coffee & scones?

[Anonymous No.19179417]

>>19179060
Nothing is close to flair neo or if you have to put 300 bucks then pro.

[Anonymous No.19179424]

>>19179417
Dolce gusto is good for 50 bucks, better than any "espressomachine" below 200 bucks

[Anonymous No.19179430]

>>19179424
>>19179417
Look second hand. 125$funtickets£ for mint GCP.
Plus you don't subsidize them thru sales tax

[Anonymous No.19179494]

>>19179414
>scones
Who likes scones?

[Anonymous No.19179502]

>>19179494
real niggas

[Anonymous No.19179536]

>>19179417
Couldn't you just make your own with flair spare parts

[Anonymous No.19179542]

>>19179536
obviously
https://www.instructables.com/How-to-Make-a-Lever-Espresso-Machine/

[Anonymous No.19179543]

Has Lelit stopped producing their products? Since breville bought them I can’t find a new PL81T/PL91T on sale.

[Anonymous No.19179545]

>>19179542
Damn, I wish I had access to machining equipment

[Anonymous No.19179551]

>>19179545
You could pay some shop to do it, although it will be quite more expensive than buying a flair

[Anonymous No.19179553]

I'm looking to replace my oxo conical burr grinder (pic related) with something specifically for espresso, under 1k would be ideal. Suggestions?

I have a rocket appartamento that makes pretty good espresso, but I think a more precise grinder is what is holding me back from great espresso

[Anonymous No.19179554]

Why should I spend 400-500€ for a Flair when for the same money I could get a real espresso machine like >>19179543 or the new Gaggia Classic Pro?

[Anonymous No.19179587]

>>19178735
I'm not willing to do all the custom declaration bullshit just because I love my private cuppa.

[Anonymous No.19179603]

>>19179553
DF83

[Anonymous No.19179619]

>>19178735
>being that guy
Im normal in public, just simplifies things

[Anonymous No.19179620]

>>19179554
>needs a 500dollar machine to make good coffee
It's the skill, not gear. A $110 cheap ass machine makes good stuff if you learn how to use it

[Anonymous No.19179640]

>>19179545
tfw need metal lathe to improve morning cuppa

[Anonymous No.19179646]

>>19179620
Yeah but that wasn’t my question.

The flair is the most basic piece of equipment on the market and yet it costs the same as a good entry level / medium entry level machine such as the Lelit range and the Gaggia Classic Pro Evo: why should I spend the same amount of money for a flair when I could get a proper machine that also steams my milk?

If the flair costed 200/250€ I’d buy it but at 400€, fuck no.

[Anonymous No.19179686]

>>19179646
Yes, its like mechanical watches, redditors love that stuff and pay extra for less accuracy

[Anonymous No.19179748]

>>19179620
You most certainly can't get anything good from a 100 dollar machine.

[Anonymous No.19179767]

Why has my 14 days old stainless steel moka pot started to look like something out of need for speed underground 2?

[Anonymous No.19179779]

>>19179767
>SOVL

[Anonymous No.19179786]

>>19179767
Just put it in the UV bath for a couple of min, no biggie

[Anonymous No.19179808]

>>19179767
aluminium chads cant stop winning.
my pot still looks as good as the day i bought it.

[Anonymous No.19179829]

>>19179748
Learn 2 brew dude

[Anonymous No.19179842]

>>19179779
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.19179853]

>>19179767
scrub it with baking soda and hot water.

[Anonymous No.19179859]

What if my moka coffee tastes weak and watery?
I achieved zero bitterness (apart from the natural taste) and zero sourness but I still manage to have bland cups and idk why.

[Anonymous No.19179862]

>>19179853
Thanks, I will try.
I have to admit that it looks rad.

[Anonymous No.19179877]

>>19179859
shit beans
shit grind
probably
maybe shit water
list some more details

[Anonymous No.19179884]

>>19179859
Fall down seven times, stand up eight

[Anonymous No.19179892]

>>19179877
That happened with 3 different pre ground coffees from the same micro roaster which makes good quality coffee, I bought them online so maybe they were a little stale.

>in b4 grind your beans

Yes that’s the plan, at the end of the month I’m buying a grinder.
I just want to make sure that it’s a coffee problem rather than a moka problem as in “this is what the moka produces”

[Anonymous No.19179896]

>>19179892
What one likes, one will do well at

[Anonymous No.19179906]

>>19179892
You need a moka research oriented roaster

[Anonymous No.19179913]

>>19179646
>>19179686
Yeah, levers are fun. I got mine a while back, and I figured I only make steamed drinks during the winter with the bellman steamer, and keeping the machine clean would be much easier than any full blown machine that would do a lot of the legwork for me.

[Anonymous No.19179943]

Can fellow put out a single product without one goofy flaw? Why still use the round display when you've got these awkward edges?

[Anonymous No.19179967]

>>19179892
i mean by default its going to more watery than an espresso because it simply has more water in it.
but its the least watery "Weak" coffee besides actual espresso.

[Anonymous No.19179971]

>>19179943
that font makes me angry

[Anonymous No.19179985]

>>19179971
Yeah? The company that uses big foot as a quirky mascot has a font that makes you angry?

[Anonymous No.19179992]

>>19179906
Lmao that’s the roaster I bought from.

Their coffee is good but I found it weak.

[Anonymous No.19180000]

>>19179967
Ok anon, I just bought the last batch of pre ground coffee, this time is 100% fresh bought at the roaster.
We’ll see.

>moka specialised roasted

This one not only is one of these (they make espresso, v60, aeropress, etc..) but it’s also one of the best roasters in Italy.

https://www.caffepenazzi.it/

[Anonymous No.19180080]

>>19180000
Nice digits anon.
Enjoy your coffee & do not filter the oils.
Tell us how the Continental was.

[Anonymous No.19180084]

>>19177262
i just got coffee from wendy's
it was not very good!

[Anonymous No.19180197]

Why aren't you a barista champion, anon?

[Anonymous No.19180375]

>>19179646
Direct levers are just inherently more flexible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZHySMSLchI
> and the Gaggia Classic Pro Evo
I read something on the espresso discord a couple days ago. People who have gaggias love them. People who have HAD gaggias fucking hate them. They're cheap easily moddible shitboxes that aren't very thermally stable out of the box. If you're just blasting water through shitty dark roast, it'll probably do just fine with a bit of temp surfing and flushing.

[Anonymous No.19180542]

>>19180197
Not fat enough.

[Anonymous No.19180568]

>>19180080
Thank you anon.

I just drank the continental and it was amazing, syrupy and very silky, almost liquor aftertaste, it’s a 100% arabica.

I’m happy, this confirmed that sadly I bought stale coffee from Giamaica caffè, this happens because they don’t sell directly. :(

My pot makes good coffe, but then again this evening it decided, after three days of behaving, to push out 80% of the coffee. >:(

I need to win over my Giannina pot, either way this moka has SOVL.

[Anonymous No.19180639]

I'm looking for a better coffee for bulk amounts of coldbrew. I currently get the Kirkland columbian tin from costco but I want something with a richer flavor. Any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.19180660]

>>19180639
https://www.swroasting.coffee/product/culled-cold-brew/18?cp=true&sa=false&sbp=false&q=false&category_id=3

[Anonymous No.19180706]

>>19180660
This looks fantastic. Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.19180809]

>>19180568
Glad to hear. Blessed be continental. Like i say "dumplings over flowers all day baby"

[Anonymous No.19180892]

>>19180660
>>19180706
pairs nicely with an aeropress. hot or flash-chilled. nutty, berries and a touch of cocoa.

[Anonymous No.19181273]

Well time to sell my sworks wdt I guess.
https://weberworkshops.com/products/moonraker?variant=42184882421813

[Anonymous No.19181301]

>>19179403
Bros?

[Anonymous No.19181326]

>>19181301
Its a solid pick for that use, buy it. If you prioritized the other way (v60>espresso) I might try to sway you to the K series, but the J will still make amazing filter coffee.

[Anonymous No.19181341]

>>19181326
Thanks anon, I’ll go for it.

[Anonymous No.19181363]

>>19177262

I drink coffee to have energy I don't even enjoy it, it gives me anxiety attacks

[Anonymous No.19181447]

is the frozen steel ball a meme or does it actually work? i think i remember an anon here owning one

[Anonymous No.19181477]

>>19181447
The anon who owns one is into every meme he can meme. Take that into acount.

[Anonymous No.19181533]

>>19181477
Everything but the aeropisso. That should tell you something.
>>19181447
It does something. Whether or not that will be something "good" for you is unknown. It doesn't make bad coffee good if thats what you're looking for.

[Anonymous No.19181553]

>>19181533
because it's not a meme ;) it makes excellent aeropresso. anyway, i'm just looking for a quick way to chill my drink as i'm pressing.

[Anonymous No.19181591]

>>19181553
Works for that just fine. I use it like that for espresso tonics and iced milk drinks.

[Anonymous No.19181603]

>>19181273
That-s actually very cool

[Anonymous No.19181628]

>>19181603
I know some of the eaf discord guys had a 3d printed one a couple months ago. You could probably track one down.
https://youtu.be/1uPouljgKZM?t=700

[Anonymous No.19181670]

>>19177797
>>19177838
>>19178254
trial and error

[Anonymous No.19181745]

>he doesn't use a well seasoned shower screen
ngmi

[Anonymous No.19181763]

>>19181745
10 seconds under cold water will get that baby surgically sterile.

[Anonymous No.19181867]

>>19180197
my mum says i am

[Anonymous No.19181883]

>>19181273
god damn it
they did it again.

[Anonymous No.19182053]

>>19181763

[Anonymous No.19182080]

>>19177262
ramsay belongs in a fucking zoo. He can do food demos for the guests.
Shouty man bad

[Anonymous No.19182308]

>>19177262
for sure, ramsay is the type to add salt to the grounds

[Anonymous No.19182349]

>>19182308
>he doesnt use salt water when he does rdt.

[Anonymous No.19182355]

>>19178656
Yeah I tried it out today and it fucking sucks. After 6 hours the coffee tasted like nothing but silicone. Go ahead and get your tastebuds checked out by a doctor before I rape you because you aren't going to be able to walk afterwards.

[Anonymous No.19182425]

>>19182355

[Anonymous No.19182469]

>>19182355
>Tasted like silicone
You know you're supposed to wash it first, right?

[Anonymous No.19182603]

For me its the aeropresso.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1G5Kj9cYZ4

[Anonymous No.19182622]

>>19182469
Just say you can't taste and move on

[Anonymous No.19182691]

>burrs wear out
>replace burrs
>realize I've had metal dust in every cup of coffee I've ever made
I'm gonna fuckin die from this shit aren't I

[Anonymous No.19182712]

>>19182691
how do your burrs wear out? does the coffee bean wear out the metal? or are your burrs touching each other?

[Anonymous No.19182721]

>>19182691
>burrs wear out
are you grinding rocks?

[Anonymous No.19182892]

>>19182691
This is why Porlex is superior. The ceramic salt enhances the boldness.

[Anonymous No.19182956]

>>19182603
How do you make these modifications?

[Anonymous No.19183017]

>>19182691
Burrs dont wear out

[Anonymous No.19183023]

>>19182691
>>burrs wear out
>>realize I've had metal dust in every cup of coffee I've ever made
You're doing something extremely wrong.

[Anonymous No.19183057]

>>19179502
I like them with my curry in a hurry

[Anonymous No.19183065]

>>19182622
You can't taste.
Move on.

[Anonymous No.19183066]

>>19182691
it's too late you already have iron in your blood

[Anonymous No.19183266]

What you drinking /ctg/? Rwandan natural pourover here.

[Anonymous No.19183276]

>>19181628
I now understand the necessity of widespread bullying in asian societies.
Shame americans won't perpetuate the deed.

[Anonymous No.19183315]

>>19183266
ethiopian natty from Shantawene Farm in Sidama Bensa, Sidamo, 1894 masl.
moka brew.
my roaster has trash selection this time of year but its good enough.
i feel like i have just been circling the same 3-4 beans for a few months now.
i feel like i have cabin fever. i feel like if i have to drink 1 more ethiopia/guatemala/honduras/rwanda natty im going to lose it.
but if its not those its some blends that usually only have washed in them and i just can't do washed anymore because they are so goddamn boring, and im not going to spend $100kg for a boring shallow coffee.
i have tried other roasters but i got burned a few times where they said they were a roaster but they were just a reseller or they were a roaster but they only roasted once a month and in my eyes were essentially selling stale beans for the same price as fresh beans.
just picked up some halva which i havent had in at least a year or two so that should be fun.
:)

[Anonymous No.19183338]

espresso too bitter:

Beginner here, I'm using a Flair Classic with pressure gauge + a Commandante. I believe I've dialed the beans in reasonably well, I get very consitent flow of 40-50 seconds. I preheat the chamber twice, sometimes three times. I'm using the beans from my local roaster they use in their cafe so I can use the espresso I drink there as a benchmark.
After about a month of trial and error I'm happy with the shots, but I've noticed that they're substantially more bitter compared to what I drink at the cafe. I realize my 600$ set-up will never compete with their 20k machine, but I'm wondering what else I can try to mitigate the bitterness.
Okay, thanks.

[Anonymous No.19183350]

>>19183315
>i feel like

[Anonymous No.19183357]

>>19183350
nice contribution cunt.

[Anonymous No.19183373]

>>19183357
>nice contribution cunt.

[Anonymous No.19183378]

>>19183338
show beans and grounds
also what grinder?
also maybe you have shit water.
do you use filtered water?

[Anonymous No.19183413]

>>19182622
Genuinely curious what part of the ceramic coated metal you suspect is making your coffee taste like silicone, pls elaborate

[Anonymous No.19183547]

>>19183338
40 - 50 is long, and if its bitter, maybe too long. Try coarser grinds or higher pressure idk

[Anonymous No.19183595]

>>19181363
It's cuppa not an ouce of edibles.

[Anonymous No.19183661]

>>19181363
>I don't even enjoy it
take caffeine pills.
loser.

[Anonymous No.19183664]

To make a cold brew it seems like you need to use way too much coffee to water. Why couldnt you use less overall? Also it seems most people use cold water the entire time but why not use hot water (say, 180F or so) to kick start the process then leave it in the fridge?

I want to make a nice simple cold brew for tomorrow. But it seems like a huge waste of good coffee beans to make so "little" cold brew. Why wouldnt I just brew a stronger regular coffee, say in a v60, then just put it in the fridge to drink cold the next morning?

[Anonymous No.19183672]

>>19183664
>Why wouldnt I just brew a stronger regular coffee, say in a v60, then just put it in the fridge to drink cold the next morning?
>Why wouldnt I
I don't know, you tell me.

[Anonymous No.19183674]

>>19183664
You can make cold brew at whatever ratio you want. Most recipes are a concentrate for diluting back down with milk. Hot bloom cold brew is a thing.
>Why wouldnt I just brew a stronger regular coffee, say in a v60, then just put it in the fridge to drink cold the next morning?
You can, just Saran wrap the top right after brewing to minimize oxidation.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RzAxHm-9pSk

[Anonymous No.19183677]

>>19183664
The answer to both your questione is that many of the soluble compounds in coffee will not dissolve into cold water the way they do in hot water. This the reason you need more coffee in your brew ratio, because you're getting less extraction from each gram of coffee than you would in your brewing methods. The reason people don't start with hot water then cool it down is because that is not cold brew, it's iced coffee. The people who prefer cold brew like it specifically because of the flavor difference from hot brewing, which exists specifically because brewing with cold water changes what gets extracted from the coffee.

Personally I don't enjoy cold brew and think it's a waste of good coffee, but your mileage may vary.

[Anonymous No.19183767]

>>19183677
>>19183674
Hm, yeah, seems like what Id rather have is iced coffee in the sense you brew it then chill it down. Why the hell would I use like 100% extra coffee to make a shitty cold brew? Id rather have a nice coffee I know is good just cooled down.

[Anonymous No.19183822]

>>19183767
>Why the hell would I use like 100% extra coffee to make a shitty cold brew?
maybe dont make shitty coffee?
also it is extremely easy and fast to do
and it is infinitely scalable
i believe you can make good coffee with cold brew (its going to cost you alot) but even for mid coffee its so easy and so convenient that it not tasting amazing is offset by how easy and convenient it is.
even mid cold brew is better than 99% of all instant coffee and in the long run is actually faster and easier to make and drink.

[Anonymous No.19183889]

>>19183822
Cold brew is just an inferior brew method desusenpai

[Anonymous No.19183933]

>>19183889
you didnt read my post.
try again faggot.

[Anonymous No.19183965]

>get into coffee making
>prices of coffee continue to rise and by 2050 there's 50% less fertile soil for growing beans
Just my fucking luck

[Anonymous No.19184024]

>>19183965
sorry but the hobby for poor fags is 3 doors down

[Anonymous No.19184031]

>>19184024
Moka pot and aeropress? Perfect robusta brewers on the cheap

[Anonymous No.19184032]

i use a 45 dollar french press and grind my own beans >>19181363
coward

[Anonymous No.19184101]

>>19184024
Everyone is a poor fag when it's 50 bucks per gram

[Anonymous No.19184108]

>>19177262
How do you guys brew your medium/dark roasts in a v60?
I'm struggling with getting everything right with the increased dose but coarser grind fucking wtih all my timings
On the same subject, for brewing darker roasts in a french press do you still need to grind coarser than you would for a light roast in a french press? Or does it being immersion based make it not as important?

[Anonymous No.19184117]

>>19181867
the highest honor there is fren

[Anonymous No.19184127]

>>19177316
Same, love Breville though

[Anonymous No.19184131]

>>19183933
I read it, that doesn't make you right though. Cold brew is shit, brew temp matters.

[Anonymous No.19184132]

>qualify for government "cost of living support" payment despite working and making enough money to support myself
guess that's my ode 2 paid for
thanks big brother

[Anonymous No.19184149]

>>19183965
Is this true? Will we be out of coffee soon?

[Anonymous No.19184161]

>>19184132
>ode 2
Based & upvoted

[Anonymous No.19184168]

>>19184161
i have to be contrarian because...I JUST HAVE TO OK????

[Anonymous No.19184180]

>>19184131
looks like you have the reading comprehension of a dog.

[Anonymous No.19184191]

>>19184180
Illiteracy is en vogue.

[Anonymous No.19184193]

>>19184149
We get more coffee because climate change will turn cold shit lands into fertile bean lands. Or cheap shit will shut down because profits plunging and everyone else gets their coffee.

[Anonymous No.19184370]

>>19183338
Just pull turbos.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NWsmK3URBy4
>>19182956
https://youtu.be/b7ft0GEcUpk
>The Aluminum fixture is made of a standard Aluminum pipe (cut exactly in half on y axis) and the top and bottom are standard Aluminum discs for Glass Tables. Regarding tools you will need a jigsaw with a metal saw blade, a file, driller with drill bits, a hole saw insert, and a manual thread cutter...

[Anonymous No.19184444]

>>19184108
bump

[Anonymous No.19184452]

>>19184444
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=brew+better+dark+roasts+v60

[Anonymous No.19184566]

I use the v60 and got new beans from the same roaster, only different origin. I grind them the same as I always do and it just never fully drains, what causes this? I've tried a few other grind sizes but it just never drains now.

[Anonymous No.19184719]

>>19183767
>>19183664
Cold brew also helps if you have IBS or GERD but can't stop yourself from chugging coffee

[Anonymous No.19184873]

>>19182712
>>19183017
>>19183023
Burr edges are sharp when new, and they dull over time like anything else that's sharp. Eventually your grind consistency goes to absolute shit, you get clumps when you do espresso grinds, etc. How long they last depends on the burrs in question, but it's usually 500-1000lb of coffee, with exceptions like the EK43 burrs that go for 10k
>>19183066
fuck rip me
>>19184132
if you get one, any setting lower than 5 and it starts getting prone to jams, especially if you use darker roasts. they have weak motors. with the SSP burrs they're breddy gud for light roasts

[Anonymous No.19184916]

>>19184873
>any setting lower than 5 and it starts getting prone to jams
Why has this literally never once been mentioned in any review I've watched?

[Anonymous No.19184931]

>>19184873
>>19184916
ok this is actually kinda hilarious
by all accounts this grinder is kind of a piece of shit and none of the major reviewers have mentioned this (very common) stalling issues and everyone who does mention it talks about it like it's not a big deal and you just deal with it
Guess I'll get something else because I'm not paying £400 for a grinder that can't even grind for fucking filter coffee that's absurd that Fellow haven't been given shit for this

[Anonymous No.19184983]

>>19184916
>>19184931
anon is a retard and doesn't know how to zero his dial. The grinder is fine for filter, you're just going to wear out the motor way quicker trying to do espresso.
https://youtu.be/irzMw4UcTfY
https://youtu.be/-IMNKwMoThg

[Anonymous No.19184999]

>>19184983
I know it's
>reddit
but it seems to be a very common issue
https://www.reddit.com/r/JamesHoffmann/comments/zlilsf/fellow_ode_getting_stuck_midgrind/

[Anonymous No.19185068]

>>19184999
This is normal. You must correctly pour beans.
£400 is worth it per the discord.

[Anonymous No.19185095]

>>19184931
>by all accounts this grinder is kind of a piece of shit and none of the major reviewers have mentioned this (very common) stalling issues and everyone who does mention it talks about it like it's not a big deal and you just deal with it
Really gets the noggin joggin

[Anonymous No.19185115]

>>19184916
dunno, but that's my personal experience with it. I got fed up with it so I cleaned it up, sold it on, and went back to my ol' reliable noisy Eureka Mignon, with its shitty retention and all
>>19184931
People deal with it because at its price point there's nothing better for pour-over. If Caedos or Monoliths had problems like that, people would lose their shit, I'm sure
>>19184983
who said anything about making espresso with an ode?
>>19185068
>malfunctioning is normal
lol

[Anonymous No.19185132]

>>19184999
>>19185068
>grinder is bad becuz reddit said so

[Anonymous No.19185274]

>>19185132
bringing my aeropress and hand grinder in my carry on for a trip to austin with the boys to make hangover coffee is extra, right? they'll just make fun of me and put milk in the coffee, right?

[Anonymous No.19185314]

>>19185274
Prolly but do it anyway. The boyos already know you're homosex.

[Anonymous No.19185607]

>>19184873
>especially if you use darker roasts.
Darker roasts grind more easily than light roasts you larping faggot

[Anonymous No.19185610]

https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Coffee-One-Touch-CoffeeHouse-Cappuccino/dp/B07CJ3CYF7/
Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.19185614]

>>19185610
I think you're retarded

[Anonymous No.19185619]

>>19185610
kino

[Anonymous No.19185632]

>>19185614
why...

[Anonymous No.19185656]

goffee :)

[Anonymous No.19185741]

>>19185632
Fetal alcohol syndrome? How the fuck should I know?

[Anonymous No.19185833]

>>19183413
Probably the silicone gasket dumbass

[Anonymous No.19185873]

>>19184370
>turbo
sounds in between espresso and moka

[Anonymous No.19186254]

>>19184566
Its not grind size but ginder quality. Unless you have very well aligned burrs and only grind easy to grind beans you will produce fines. The amount of fines varies between beans and grinders but grinding coarser will not fix it. What you should do is not agitate your grounds. Do a long bloom and then a single slow pour of your entire liquid volume. No swirling, shaking or agitating, just let it drain
>but bed not flat, coffee is shit?
Flat bed means nothing, its a 'tism thing. Just try it and see if it solves your stall

[Anonymous No.19186276]

>>19185873
~20s extraction at 6 bar vs ~5 minute extraction at 1.5bar. Couldn't be more different.

[Anonymous No.19186306]

>>19186276
>5 minute extraction
????????????????????????????????????????????????????
you are making moka wrong if it takes you 5 minutes from start to finish of the brew.

[Anonymous No.19186325]

>>19186306
Probably why your goffee sucks. This comes straight from the #1 Rok retailer in all of Australia.

[Anonymous No.19186332]

>>19186325
provide source please

[Anonymous No.19186333]

>>19186325
im gonna time it next time.
i mean hey time flies when you're having fun but 5 mins just feels too long.

also reminder.
my goffee > your coffee
always.

[Anonymous No.19186335]

>>19186332
looks like alternative brewing's website

[Anonymous No.19186341]

>>19186335
negative

[Anonymous No.19186350]

>>19186335
aka the #1 seller of Rok Grinders in the outback.
>>19186333
They're also doing the whole
>start with hot water
but
>turn your burner down from med at first drip
tech which is going to delay a bit vs just raging heat. It didn't seem that unreasonable of a time to ss.

[Anonymous No.19186353]

>>19186332
>>19186335
https://alternativebrewing.com.au/blogs/brew-tips/moka-pot-tips
>>19186341
Just say you don't know what you're talking about and move on.

[Anonymous No.19186364]

>>19186325
>>19186353
it's a jewish shop. opinion discarded.

[Anonymous No.19186369]

>>19186364
Olivia seems down bad. You should message her.

[Anonymous No.19186371]

>>19186350
>from med at first drip
thats bad advice.
you start with max and then when the bottom of the top is no longer visible(should only take a couple seconds from point of coffee emergence) you turn to min heat.
this is why i think there time is so long, their starting temp is too low.
im going to make a moka within the hour i'd say so ill report back with my measurements then.

[Anonymous No.19186372]

>>19186369
i think i upset her

[Anonymous No.19186380]

AB's french press guide says "use 56g of coffee" and then doesn't say how much water that's for. I think they just got lucky with stealing their moka pot guide from somewhere competent.

[Anonymous No.19186381]

>>19186371
That sharp declining temp profile probably works fine for typical darker roast aussy moka shit.

[Anonymous No.19186444]

>>19184566
Grind quality(fines), water hardness and temp(hotter=faster) , and filters all affect your drawdown.

Avoid excessive agitation if your grinder is mediocre as >>19186254 said. For filters untabbed hario, or abaca/medium roast cafec are the best at a reasonable price point (fuck sibarist).

[Anonymous No.19186446]

>>19186371
update
>26g dose
>3 minute brew
>155ml yield

>>19186381
its medium roast and costs $95kg you fucking spastic cunt. actually kill yourself.
>typical darker roast aussy
its aussie you dumb bitch, and 99% of the fucking planet drinks dogshit commodity dark roast crap, including you.

[Anonymous No.19186447]

>>19186371
If you do that with a light roast on a moka pot you end up with battery acid underextracted coffee. Med/low and slow usually makes for a better moka pot.

[Anonymous No.19186493]

>>19186446
I'm talking about whatever ab was "using" for their guide schizo.
>including you
The last coffee I had that wasn't early first crack home roast was the Sey La Palma Sidra. $85usd/125g. Think that works out to like $1aud a gram?

[Anonymous No.19186497]

I only drink instant coffee. Drip coffee sucks.

[Anonymous No.19186517]

>>19177769
How American.

[Anonymous No.19186549]

I ate the sticky residue from my espresso ginders burr chamber and been seeing through walls and remembering details from the womb. How long does this last, im not comfortable. Grinder was from ebay never cleaned btw

[Anonymous No.19186575]

>>19186549
Two weeks.
At least.

[Anonymous No.19186589]

>>19186497
Instant is just dehydrated super cheap batch brewed drip coffee.

[Anonymous No.19186643]

>>19183965
we will adapt and overcome fren

[Anonymous No.19186726]

>>19186306
Exactly. They push water through the puck fairly quickly once they reach temp.

>>19186325
1.5-2.5 bar over 90 sec seems more accurate

[Anonymous No.19186767]

>>19186726
pic source?

[Anonymous No.19186771]

>>19177262
See his daughter do the water bottle egg shtick to Gordon? You'll kys laughing.

[Anonymous No.19186773]

>>19186771
>You'll kys laughing.
then why the fuck are you still here?

[Anonymous No.19186777]

Bros, I finally tamed the Giannina.

She wanted to feel the heat all along, medium flame. She’s alive.

https://files.catbox.moe/xt5f0a.mp4

>pic related: the goffee, a lot of it.
>7X grams water in - 6X goffee out

[Anonymous No.19186800]

>>19186777
nice numbers
anyone else have catbox take forever to buffer?
oh and i try to play it again and it freezes the tab and i have to reload and re buffer.
i hope whoever coded this shit actually kills themself right now.

not your fault btw mr giannina guy

[Anonymous No.19186881]

ITS UP!
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBdiBV-yzlk
hoff me harder

[Anonymous No.19186977]

>>19186777
Based. Is it the continental? No filter i presume.
Enjoy the goffee. The cuppa does look really nice.

[Anonymous No.19186981]

>>19186977
Yes it’s the Continental, and I used the aeropress filter.
After dinner I’ll try without filter, it will probably have less crema that way.

[Anonymous No.19186983]

Bros how do I zero a grinder ? I got my K6 but I don't know how closed it should be to be actually zero'ed. At 0 it's in the squeak zone and puts up a fight but should it be fully closed and locked up ?

[Anonymous No.19186995]

How are they going to keep the homeless out?

[Anonymous No.19187003]

>>19186981
>it will probably have less crema that way.
you mean more right?

[Anonymous No.19187006]

>>19186983
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45fpPUQ-5TU
literally first result when i googled "how do I zero a k6 grinder"

[Anonymous No.19187060]

>>19187006
The videos I saw told me to lock the burrs so it does not spin at all even with a bit of force applied. Then I guess my grinder is zero'ed almost perfectly. Lucky !

[Anonymous No.19187073]

>>19187003
Nope, less crema without the aeropress filter.

[Anonymous No.19187078]

>>19187073
What grinder do you use moka bro ?

[Anonymous No.19187080]

I drink Folgers

[Anonymous No.19187091]

>>19187073
rip foam shots

[Anonymous No.19187093]

>>19187080
You should clean your mug

[Anonymous No.19187094]

>>19187073
>the video has little foam
>say you are going to try without the filter after dinner
>the next pic you upload has more foam showing that no filter means more foam
>you say no filter = less foam even that that contradicts your post.
huh?

[Anonymous No.19187112]

>>19187094
The pic seems to be from a previous video he uploaded.>>19187078

>>19187078
Please follow the story. Moka bro does not have a grinder. Might buy a grinder 1zpresso.
This is a new roaster, apparently one of the best in Marioland. The Continental >>19180000

>>19186981
Bro please listen to me bro.
Do not filter the oils bro
Please do the needfull bro.
Thank you sirs bro

[Anonymous No.19187114]

>>19187094
The video posted ITT has been made using the aeropress filter, there’s crema but since it’s 1 cup using the reducer in a 3 cup moka it looks like a lot less coffee (it is).

This is 3 cup with the aeropress filter: https://files.catbox.moe/6lttxq.mp4

This is the biggest amount of crema I was able to produce.

>>19187078
I just ordered a 1Zpresso JX Pro S but since now I used pre ground coffee, I just asked the roaster to adjust the grind based on my experiences and so far I’ve seen that the Giannina, having narrower holes in the filter vs other moka pots, likes a more finer grind, closer to espresso size.

The finer the grind the more crema I can get, but only using the aeropress filter to increase brewing pressure.

[Anonymous No.19187124]

>>19187112
>filter the oils

Am I doing this? :O

>best roaster in pastaland

Actually the Continental is a historic roaster but the specific one I linked in the old thread, one of the best of country, is “Torrefazione Penazzi 1926”.

https://www.caffepenazzi.it/negozio-online-specialty/

I will order from them once I have the grinder, so in some weeks once I’m out of all the coffee I have at home.

[Anonymous No.19187125]

>>19187112
those beans are burnt.
throw them out.

[Anonymous No.19187146]

>>19187093
No, it tastes better this way

[Anonymous No.19187155]

>>19187112
Hey I recognise that picture.

That’s laboratorio di torrefazione Giamaica caffè. :D

That place is so obscure that it doesn’t have a website, you can’t order directly from them and they WON’T sell your coffee place their coffee unless they approve the philosophy behind your business, hence why only a handful of places serve their coffee (luxury hotels, Michelin awarded restaurants like Alajmo, gourmet bakeries and so).
If you want to buy their coffee there are some stores who have them but be aware, it can be from batches of coffee not super fresh (like the one I bought) even though it’s vacuum sealed, so I suggest you to buy whole beans and not ground.

Espresso coffee shop exclusively sell Giamaica caffè coffee, however their prices are expensive, more than other Italian stores.

https://www.espressocoffeeshop.com/en/giamaica-caffe/

The best way to buy from Giamaica caffè is to be in Verona, north Italy, and visit them so you can buy at their lab.

[Anonymous No.19187164]

>>19187155
>(luxury hotels, Michelin awarded restaurants like Alajmo, gourmet bakeries and so).
more proof that most places even expensive places have shit coffee.
i mean look at that picture.
that coffee is burnt, they have destroyed it.

[Anonymous No.19187171]

>>19187124
>Am I doing this?
It is not clear inbetween what the filter is. With the amount of people filtering the oils i assumed the worst.

>>19187155
Yeah, the pic choice was in relation with your previous experiences. Next time i'm in the zone, i won't forget to get a bag from them.

>That place is so obscure that it doesn’t have a website, you can’t order directly from them and they WON’T sell your coffee place their coffee unless they approve the philosophy behind your business
This enrages the merchant.

>>19187164
(You)

[Anonymous No.19187181]

>>19187164
The coffee isn’t expensive even if drank at expensive places.

This is coffee stern in Paris, they serve Giamaica caffè: https://alajmo.it/en/pages/homepage-caffe-stern

There’s the menu you can look at.

[Anonymous No.19187184]

I'm looking for a way to make coffee-based milk drinks for when I have multiple guests. Ideally something that meets all the following criteria:
>relatively cheap, doesn't require an expensive grinder (no espresso machines)
>able to make a concentrated coffee base (no v60/french press)
>able to brew multiple cups at once (no Aeropress)
>easy to clean (no moka pot)

What are my options? Would I be better off getting one of the "foreign" coffee brewers? (e.g. Turkish, South Indian, Vietnamese, etc.)

[Anonymous No.19187187]

>>19187181
>The coffee isn’t expensive even if drank at expensive places.
clearly

[Anonymous No.19187190]

>>19187184
>easy to clean (no moka pot)
you are too lazy and retarded to make coffee worth serving to guests
the tea general will be more your speed.

[Anonymous No.19187209]

>>19187184
>easy to clean (no moka pot)

If you can’t clean a moka in less than 2 minutes then you’re ngmi

[Anonymous No.19187270]

>>19187184
If you know they're going to show up a day before hand I'd just get a cold brew pot from Hario and a large capacity milk frother/heater (they usually come with a whisk that froths an a non-whisk mixer that doesn't do much froth but stops things burning).
A short zap in a microwave will heat the cold brew up and then you can just add the milk.
If they aren't picky you could just get a smooth instant or those sticks with the milk & sugar inside and use the milk frother to mix it all up.

[Anonymous No.19187285]

SOVL:
>Moka
>Espresso (manual & semi automatic machines)
>V60/Chemex
>Turkish

Soulless:
>Aeropress
>Espresso (automatic & super automatic)
>Drip
>Filter

Subhuman:
>Instant

[Anonymous No.19187286]

>>19187209
Thats not even enough time to prepare my uv bath by rinsing it in the larger uv bath russian doll style. Just say you like rancid coffee oil and move on

[Anonymous No.19187288]

>>19187285
>drip, filter, v60 and chemex are separate categories
Wat

[Anonymous No.19187295]

>>19187288
V60 is Hario, Japanese, therefore it has automatic SOVL and a separate category

[Anonymous No.19187298]

>>19187286
>no ultrasonic rinse
i can see the mold forming already.

[Anonymous No.19187302]

>>19187295
>filter
:(
>filter japanese
:)

[Anonymous No.19187303]

>>19187298
If you dont have a guy called mr Wolff on speed dial that will come and clean anything no questions asked you are just living in filth anyway

[Anonymous No.19187315]

>>19187302
Correct.

[Anonymous No.19187325]

>>19187286
Wtf I just realized that I can just put my disassembled moka on my balcony in direct sunlight to dry and UV bath for free instead of leaving it on the table with moisture that never dries under the gasket.

[Anonymous No.19187333]

>>19187325
Yes put them out right now, im not a crow with a boner for shiny things btw, I am a human, natural process coffee is complex haha

[Anonymous No.19187341]

>>19187333

[Anonymous No.19187350]

>>19187325
UV baths are superior because your stuff won't get exposed to the other harmful radiation in sunlight.

[Anonymous No.19187366]

Much less of a hassle to UV bathe myself.

[Anonymous No.19187426]

>>19185610
>>19185614
>>19185741
Whats wrong with this espresso machine

[Anonymous No.19187432]

>>19187426
Why wouldn't i answer

[Anonymous No.19187480]

>>19187426
Nothing. Buy it so you can show off.

[Anonymous No.19187529]

>>19187285
Ascended:
>Cold Brew

[Anonymous No.19187543]

Nescafé

Simple as

[Anonymous No.19187549]

Why do Moka pot shots always come out tasting sweeter than espresso?

[Anonymous No.19187551]

>>19186726
You can't even read your own graph.

[Anonymous No.19187579]

>>19187549
simple
goffee > coffee

[Anonymous No.19187622]

>>19187549
Trace aluminum in the cup.

[Anonymous No.19187630]

>>19187622
is that going to kill me?

[Anonymous No.19187632]

>>19187630
Not immediately.

[Anonymous No.19187639]

>>19187630
No it'll just slowly and consistently make you more autistic. Expect Alzheimer's in old age.

[Anonymous No.19187644]

Is it safe to order stuff from aliexpress or will I get some bootleg crap?

[Anonymous No.19187654]

Any bongs ordered from coffeefriend? It's based on some Lithuanian company so I'm a bit sceptical of the quality and legitimacy

[Anonymous No.19187667]

>>19187644
Depends. What are you trying to order?
>>19186881
Oh its finally revealed. Gabor is a cool dude.

[Anonymous No.19187727]

>>19187667
A grinder

[Anonymous No.19187758]

>>19187644
>>19187727
>Is it safe
You think they're gonna mail you a bomb or something?
Received this sweet needle distribution tool this morning. Aluminium, a few bucks more than the 3d printed one that get's shilled here from etsy. Gotta say i'm not disappointed.

>A grinder
Which one?

[Anonymous No.19187762]

>>19187727
You'll be fine. If the price is too good to be true, it is. Theres a million shitty oem brands to avoid though. Just stick with 1z and kin and realize you're probably not saving that much compared to buying from an importer.

[Anonymous No.19187789]

Handle of goffee syrup please

[Anonymous No.19187796]

>>19187789
>wrong glass
>too much liquor
>faggot nails

Just buy this on amazon

[Anonymous No.19187816]

>>19187758
>>19187727
This is one of those companies that was just rebranding anything they could get. Started selling on ali less than a year ago. Great for cheap shit like wdts brushes and towels, probably skip their grinders for a couple years. It looks like they've got some original designs like the $50 sifters.

[Anonymous No.19187821]

>>19187796
>borghetti instead of traditional galician licor café
Yeah i'm gonna pass but thanks

[Anonymous No.19187824]

>>19187789

[Anonymous No.19187829]

It's time

[Anonymous No.19187853]

>>19187829
Penazzi order moka-frà?

>HueHue-goffee
May this man bless your cuppa

[Anonymous No.19187906]

>>19187816
Holy shit they've got a moka distributor.

[Anonymous No.19187920]

>>19187906
>moka distributor
Released last week it seems

[Anonymous No.19188147]

>>19187853
Soon.

That man, Alberto Trabatti, is a gentleman and is more than happy to answer your questions and talk to you, either via email/social or even by telephone.

https://youtu.be/2Iap7jVSjCE

[Anonymous No.19188165]

>>19187906
If it can cut down on wasted grounds by elimating the need to overfill to get a good bed I'm on board. I hate wasting coffee even if it's a singular gram.

[Anonymous No.19188169]

>>19187853
>you will never be as elegant as Alberto Trabatti-sama

Why live

[Anonymous No.19188221]

>>19188147
>>19188169
S O V L

[Anonymous No.19188264]

whats with italians and burnt coffee?

[Anonymous No.19188284]

it's not the italians the problem

[Anonymous No.19188332]

>>19188284
>tattoos

Noooo Alberto, noooo…

[Anonymous No.19188909]

>>19188169
>>19188284
I don't get it?

[Anonymous No.19189206]

Natural process coffee was made to be roasted to second crack and used in milk drinks.

[Anonymous No.19189305]

What are some coffees for when

[Anonymous No.19189418]

Is coffee carcinogenic?

[Anonymous No.19189422]

>>19188264
they are poor and can only afford shit coffee which has to be burnt to hide how shit it is.
and then they marketed that shit taste as what "true" coffee is.
same with crema
its just coffee foam, people didnt like it until the inventor of the espresso machine marketed it as a good thing and integral to the taste
italians are all snake oil salesmen and thats a fact.

[Anonymous No.19189427]

>>19189418
all good things are.

[Anonymous No.19189588]

>>19189427
Shit

[Anonymous No.19189636]

>>19189418
No, it's the opposite

[Anonymous No.19189638]

>>19188332
>>19188909
Guy on the left is a "roaster" at (s)gey coffee in NYC.
Man on the right well... it's Alberto muhfuggin Trabatti

[Anonymous No.19189886]

>coarser ground coffee brews slower in my v60 than my finer grinds
Is it easier to clog the filter paper with a coarser grind? I think that's what's happening here

[Anonymous No.19189918]

>>19189886
what grinder
im guessing is you have shit consistency so even though you are grinding coarser you are still getting a fair amount of fines which is choking the filter under the top layer of coarser ground coffee
but this is just a guess.

[Anonymous No.19189973]

>>19188284
>soulless, gay, aids VS SOVL, elegance, refinement

[Anonymous No.19189980]

NEW

>>19189978
>>19189978
>>19189978

[Anonymous No.19190228]

>he doesn't use an expensive burr grinder
>he doesn't use off the boil water
>he doesn't roast his own beans
ngmi

[Anonymous No.19190367]

>>19189973
bingo

[Anonymous No.19190873]

>>19185607
well if it jammed on darker roasts imagine how often it would shit the bed on lighter stuff