/ctg/ Coffee Time Genera

[Anonymous No.19126281]

Thread for discussing coffee and coffee-related topics.

Kosher for passover edition

If you're new or confused, start here: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLz
If you're old and confused, drink anything that exploded lately?
Previous thread: >>19115512

[Anonymous No.19126304]

If burrs don't make a difference can I use a mortar and pestle instead?

[Anonymous No.19126322]

>>19126304
what do you personally think? do you think the oils that contain all the flavor will evaporate in the process or not?

[Anonymous No.19126361]

in canada, where do you buy your beans for espresso? which roaster do you guys order from?

[Anonymous No.19126362]

>>19126304
>If burrs don't make a difference
what retard said that?

[Anonymous No.19126368]

>>19126361
>what is google
do you think this is some kind of autistic database where we know literally every roaster in every country on earth?
why the fuck are you asking us.
sorry its been too long since my last goffee...

[Anonymous No.19126372]

>>19126362
Its the burr autist, he sees only black and white and never says anything directly, only with multiple layers of passive agressive cringe. Just ignore him

[Anonymous No.19126374]

>>19126368
Did someone piss in your coffee?

[Anonymous No.19126380]

>>19126361
https://streetbrew.ca/
Best brewers in Canada8jwak4

[Anonymous No.19126382]

>>19126281
>Kosher for Passover
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.19126385]

>>19126380
thanks for the rec anon

[Anonymous No.19126451]

>>19126374
no im just sick of people using this general like google. like if they just typed in their exact comment into google they would find the answer they want faster than it would take for anyone here to respond.

[Anonymous No.19126514]

>>19126382
Nescafe is kosher (because producing it induced an acceptable amount of human suffering to satisfy a jew) and I'm guessing they used that slogan around the time of passover (a jewish holiday)

[Anonymous No.19126590]

>>19126451
People are using this thread to have other users feedback. google don't give you proper feedback on roasters

[Anonymous No.19126613]

>>19126590
>google don't give you proper feedback on roasters
this is bait.
you really think its better to have people do this
>hey guys what is the best roaster in x
>silence for hours if its ever answered at all
>i dont live in x so i dont know
or
>hey guys is x roaster good
>silence for hours if its ever answered at all
>uhhh i dont know i have never ordered from their

like you just expect someone in this thread to be from x who orders coffee online and has enough experience to give a comprehensive review within 10 minutes of the person asking?
what the fuck is wrong with you?

heres how its actually going to go
you have me who tells them to fuck off and google it or you have someone that literally just googles it for them and copy pastes the answer google gave which is slower than the asker googling it themselves.

[Anonymous No.19126646]

>>19126382
https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15

[Anonymous No.19126660]

Is the Mahlkonig X54 the Ultimate Home Grinder?

[Anonymous No.19126690]

>>19126660
>lust provoking image
>irrelevant time wasting question

[Anonymous No.19126697]

caffeine is a drug. bean water is bad for your colon even without caffeine. its no better than unironically eating red meat.
drink water and eat seafood + vegetables, fatties.

[Anonymous No.19126701]

>>19126362
Some dipshit last thread who can't coffee good.
>none of this is going to make a noticeable difference in how your coffee tastes

[Anonymous No.19126706]

>>19126701
Thats true though, burr geometry is cable lifts

[Anonymous No.19126736]

>>19126706
So if minute differences don't matter why get asshurt over the reccing cheap kin grinders?

[Anonymous No.19126743]

>>19126736
Now you lost me. But hey, should we drop this now? Would be cool

[Anonymous No.19126761]

>>19126743
Sure. Go ahead and recommend some beans no one will buy.

[Anonymous No.19126765]

>>19126368
>do you think this is some kind of autistic database
last thread had literally dozens of comments arguing about the variability in grinder burr machining quality coming out of different chinese factories so... yes?

[Anonymous No.19126769]

>>19126761
That also wasnt me, do you really think you have been shitposting with just one anon the whole last thread?

[Anonymous No.19126771]

>>19126765
There were less pictures of burrs than spilled aeropresses.
>>19126769
I don't get why you always angle for this argument. Of course not. Now rec the beans.

[Anonymous No.19126784]

>>19126771
I like kidney beans, you should try em. Canned

[Anonymous No.19126796]

Ever brewed a cup with green beans?

[Anonymous No.19126801]

>>19126784
I've heard people use dried pinto beans to tune new roasters.

[Anonymous No.19126822]

>>19126380
Does it taste good?

[Anonymous No.19127029]

Sniff it, slut.

[Anonymous No.19127031]

Is it ok to use beans only 24 hours after they were roasted?

[Anonymous No.19127059]

>>19127031
for what? not espresso, probably bloom hard for pourover

[Anonymous No.19127072]

>put chocolate syrup in my mug
>pour hot coffee in to it
>it tastes like shit
i will never perfect a macchiato!!

[Anonymous No.19127247]

>>19127059
>not espresso

[Anonymous No.19127263]

>>19126281
instant coffee is actually based

[Anonymous No.19127284]

I had one cup of coffee and my day is ruined because the caffeine puts my anxiety through the roof. And I have a bag of beans and 2lbs of unroasted beans in the mail because I thought I was over this bullshit. I want to die.

[Anonymous No.19127291]

>>19127247

[Anonymous No.19127510]

>>19126361
I order from Agro Roasters usually but occasionally I'll order from Pallet Roasters

[Anonymous No.19127521]

>>19127247
you will drink the poo water

[Anonymous No.19127599]

>>19126765
>where we know literally every roaster in every country on earth?
include the rest of the sentence you fucking git

[Anonymous No.19127638]

>>19126796
>what is google
not personally but from watching 3 different videos it seems like its just way less caffeine and tastes like total shit.
like actual bean water(wow who would have guessed!?)

[Anonymous No.19127642]

>>19127029
too dark no thanks.

[Anonymous No.19127677]

>>19127072
>chocolate syrup
idiot

[Anonymous No.19127787]

>>19127029
Is this light roast?

[Anonymous No.19127882]

How long did it take you guys to find coffee beans that you really liked? I've been drinking french press coffee for years and I finally stepped up and started taking it seriously (grinder and scale) I ordered 3 different bags from a roaster and so far and I'm 0 for 2 on me liking them. Am I going to have to order 50 bags before I find something good?

[Anonymous No.19127912]

>>19127882
A year maybe. I didn't dislike what I was drinking until I found Ethiopian light roasts and now I hate most dark roasts.

[Anonymous No.19127914]

>>19127787
yes

[Anonymous No.19127936]

>the ethiopian blueberry bombs schizo is back
what a terrible day

[Anonymous No.19128018]

>>19127912
>A year maybe.
Sounds like I'm going to need to be patient

[Anonymous No.19128048]

>>19126281
I'm giving up caffeine for a month, we will see if I gain the power of levitation and my anxiety disappears

[Anonymous No.19128067]

i like instant

[Anonymous No.19128070]

>everyone is a schizo but me schizo never left

[Anonymous No.19128077]

>>19128018
it was about 5-6 months for me.
i started with the light to medium light ethiopians but then tried a natural process burundi and my life changed, now if i can i only drink natural process medium roast. or if my roaster doesnt have that then honey process.
i will also always buy 2 different beans, 1 my main coffee and the other just something else that sounds interesting or that i havent had before, just to keep my palate evolving and so i dont just fall into a rut of drinking the same coffee every day.

[Anonymous No.19128086]

The big tubs of McDonald's coffee is literally the best store bought option

[Anonymous No.19128087]

>>19128067
no you dont.

[Anonymous No.19128097]

>>19128070
i am the /ctg/ schizo.
i never said i wasn't a schizo.
but im the good one :)
these other cunts just bring the threads down with the most boring schizo copypasta.

[Anonymous No.19128109]

you are all evil, supporting slave labor

[Anonymous No.19128128]

wish i had a slave to tend my garden and be my gf :3

[Anonymous No.19128132]

>>19128109
making animals work can't really be called slave labor

[Anonymous No.19128150]

>>19128109
>you are all evil, supporting slave labor
>sent from iphone
sure thing champ.
also i really genuinely dont give a fuck if 15 burundi child slaves die for each bag of burundi natural process medium roast coffee to get to my front door.
it tastes great.
maybe dont get born in a shit country next time.

[Anonymous No.19128165]

>>19128109
>TFW no african slave wife to make coffee beans for me

[Anonymous No.19128223]

I think I'll make a little espresso tonic for dessert.

[Anonymous No.19128354]

>>19128223
Based. I prefer them as a hot afternoon drink but still a good choice.

[Anonymous No.19128380]

my stovetop roast from yesterday is smelling amazing
i wont post pictures because it's unevenly roasted and i don't want to get made fun of!

[Anonymous No.19128408]

>>19128354
Its 80f in my house right now. 1:3 Guji allona nat pulled over the meme frozen steel ball, into fever tree light. Its so good I think I'll pull another.

[Anonymous No.19128424]

>>19128380
Post it. My new modded Popper* build is on hold. Sent 60v into a 36v regulator and burned up my whole controller. I've got a week or two while a new unit ships to figure out how I'm going to lay everything out. Might have to end up getting someone to laser cut some acrylic for a case.

[Anonymous No.19128491]

Just ordered these beans
What will I think of it?

[Anonymous No.19128513]

>>19128408
Sounds good

[Anonymous No.19128644]

>>19128513
Went quite a bit coarser for this second one and shaved off ~20 seconds. First one was good, this one was great. I'll have to snag some of this years crop.
https://thecaptainscoffee.com/products/ethiopia-guji-allona-natural-organic

[Anonymous No.19128757]

>>19128644
>mfw

[Anonymous No.19128925]

I have tried fiddling with heat and pour speed and I have to be honest
This does fucking nothing to the taste

[Anonymous No.19128962]

>>19128925
>heat and pour speed
minor adjustments probably don't matter as much as grind size, but they matter
brew one at 185f, one at boiling

[Anonymous No.19129063]

>>19128491
>washed
you will probably like it but you will be left wanting more
but you will never find it in the next sip or the next cup.

[Anonymous No.19129072]

has anyone ever tried coffee w/ condensed milk? shit was so cash

[Anonymous No.19129098]

>>19126368
Why don't you brew some of that bitterness out of your personality, loser.

[Anonymous No.19129117]

>>19129072
I hate zoomers

[Anonymous No.19129119]

>>19129063
Unwashed tastes mostly fermented, washed for that clarity and citrus thanks

[Anonymous No.19129218]

>>19129119
just say you dont know what you are talking about and move on.

[Anonymous No.19129219]

>>19129218
You dont know what you are talking about.
Move on.

[Anonymous No.19129222]

>unironically using "i know you are but what am i"
its past your bedtime kid.

[Anonymous No.19129226]

>>19127247
This made me more revolted than a gore video

[Anonymous No.19129230]

>>19128109
I’m kinda new to this, what are the alternatives?

[Anonymous No.19129236]

>>19129230
>I’m kinda new to this
Sweaty you've not been paying attention.
Simply redefine slavery or evilness for that matter and you're gucci. I've seen medical institutions all over the world do this.

[Anonymous No.19129242]

>>19129230
living in the coffee belt and grow and process your own.

[Anonymous No.19129256]

>>19129222
Who are you quoting newfag?

[Anonymous No.19129259]

>>19129256
>quoting
schizo

[Anonymous No.19129268]

>>19127247
Yeah basically the same thing with my moca pot.

[Anonymous No.19129392]

>>19126660

[Anonymous No.19129462]

I remember that Comandante sued Timemore and 1Zpresso for copyright infringement. Is that the reason why Hoffmeme hasn't reviewed recent hand grinder releases?

[Anonymous No.19129472]

>>19129462
>Asks 4chinz instead of hoffmeme.
Pretty smart for a retard ngl.

[Anonymous No.19129485]

>>19129472
I want to trust the experts

[Anonymous No.19129547]

>>19129485
>trust the experts
Is the Fellow Opus the Best All in One Grinder?
The big boy says yes. Smol boys use hand motion to build muscle.

[Anonymous No.19129846]

>>19127029
>paperbag
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.19129856]

>>19129846
>reflections from the plastic clearly visible
>hurr durr im a retard
If you want to bump the thread provide some content instead

[Anonymous No.19129862]

>>19129547
Seeing those fat hotdog fingers really disturbs me.

[Anonymous No.19129901]

>>19129856
>provide some content instead
you first

[Anonymous No.19129977]

>>19129462
He doesn't review hand grinders because he doesn't like them. I heard the hg-2 he reviewed and gave away to his Patreon broke.
>>19129547
Unironically worse than the new encore.

[Anonymous No.19130044]

Which one would you chose for espresso & why?

[Anonymous No.19130079]

>>19130044
both
so you can taste back to back(cleaning palate in between) and figure out which one you like more and why.
taking notes at every step of the process helps narrow down the pros and cons.
you can also return to those notes if you buy something similar or just like to compare notes :)

[Anonymous No.19130088]

you lied, /ctg/
https://www.wired.com/gallery/best-coffee-grinders/
>WIRED senior reviewer Scott Gilbertson prefers to hand-grind his coffee, and he's tried half a dozen manual grinders. The Skerton Pro is far and away his favorite. It's fast, taking less than two minutes to grind out the half cup of fine grounds for my moka pot—and the burr design produces a consistent, fine grind.

[Anonymous No.19130114]

>>19130088
>Skerton Pro
this guy is a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.19130124]

>>19130088
>If you buy something using links in our stories, we may earn a commission. This helps support our journalism.
You ever notice how all of those brands are paying out high affiliate kickbacks? You're reading an ad, not a review.
>>19130044
Hazelnuts are gross and overpowering.

[Anonymous No.19130130]

>>19130079
I already have pic rel from same roaster and i like a lot. Both is too easy, too safe. Only one can be ordered. The colombian one is a social coffee thing like no slavery or something.

[Anonymous No.19130195]

>>19130130
>Only one can be ordered
thats retarded
>like no slavery or something.
i feel bad for anyone who gives a fuck about this.

[Anonymous No.19130319]

>>19130195
>thats retarded
That's the constraint

But guess i'll go with the cocaïnebros instead of the poos. You never now where the loo is for them. Plus that monsoon process seems meme-y.

Pic rel is where cocaïnebros produce.

[Anonymous No.19130716]

>>19129547
>>19129977
It's a plastic shitbox.

[Anonymous No.19130901]

10 espresso in
my whole body is vibrating
i am extremely hot
my chest is tight
send help

[Anonymous No.19130907]

>>19130901
Sounds like a good time, might want to get one more in

[Anonymous No.19130914]

>>19130901
Anymore and time will crawl slower.

[Anonymous No.19131036]

>>19128109
Buy from specialty shops. Fair trade is a meme.

[Anonymous No.19131044]

>>19130319
Pretty landscape. Reminds me of the brazilanon (I think it was brazil) that posted pics from his friend's coffee farm. Forgot to save them unfortunately, maybe I'll go search the archives for them

[Anonymous No.19131053]

>>19131044
Found it fairly quickly because I remembered a phrase in one post, but archived.moe doesn't save pics and warosu didn't archive that thread for some reason. Also anon was colombian.

[Anonymous No.19131113]

How do people justify spending $400+ on a grinder that only does pour over? What personal workflow could possibly need that? Surely if you're doing pour over you're making 1-2 cups max at which point just use a hand grinder that's 1/4 of the price and crank out those two doses of coffee
Is the difference in taste based on grind quality from a good hand grinder to a good electric grinder really worth 4x the price?

[Anonymous No.19131118]

>>19129547
BOY? I thought this was a woman all along

[Anonymous No.19131127]

>>19129977
Do you have a source for a single thing you said?
He's done multiple videos on hand grinders and has said good things about many of them, even mentioining ones he uses while travelling

[Anonymous No.19131170]

>>19131113
if you do this as a hobby then yes.
a $400 hand grinder is going to be better than a $400 electric grinder
a $400 hand grinder is going to be significantly more accurate and have more consistent results.
trying to make the best anything is going to be really hard when a major step in the process is extremely unreliable and inaccurate.

[Anonymous No.19131242]

>>19131113
Yes.

[Anonymous No.19131266]

>>19131127
I'd have to dig through videos to find it. You can recognize their quality and value and still not particularly like the experience. To review more hand grinders he would have to use them more than he cares to.

[Anonymous No.19131391]

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[Anonymous No.19131434]

>t. faggot

[Anonymous No.19131518]

>>19131242
that sticker doesnt make any sense.

[Anonymous No.19131565]

>>19131118
it is

[Anonymous No.19131585]

For those who have multiple grinders, how do you store unused ones?
Context: I use Timemore C2 but my Kingrinder K6 is coming soon. I'm not sure if I can pawn my C2.

[Anonymous No.19131624]

>>19126281
I put a tablespoon of instant coffee in my cereal everyday. Usually frosted mini wheats or honey nut Cheerios with milk. It adds a nice bitterness to the breakfast.

[Anonymous No.19131900]

>>19131585
I gave away my Baratza Encore to my cousin when I got my K6

[Anonymous No.19131931]

>>19131900
Good choice.

[Anonymous No.19132057]

>>19131127
The man can have any grinder in the world for free by pointing at it why do you think even in your wildest chink shill dreams he would waste time on pepper mills?
>>19131585
I have them out on my counter, I dont want to adjust the setting every time I switch between french press and espresso. Worth the countertop real estate as I use them both every day and have a big kitchen

[Anonymous No.19132065]

coffee instant type 2 isn't working out for me these days should I have tried freeze dried kinds?

[Anonymous No.19132113]

>>19132065
Yeah they changed the burr geometry at the factory in the beginning of the year so the resulting coffee is just not drinkable anymore. Iirc they went from 89 to 78 mm with a dropthrough kardan axis and as we know the grounds from that kind of setup is basically encore level fines fiesta

[Anonymous No.19132124]

>>19132113
well this is just vile I hate coffee now

[Anonymous No.19132222]

Are gooseneck kettles a meme?
Why are temperature controlled gooseneck kettles so expensive?

[Anonymous No.19132235]

>>19132113
why are you so mad

[Anonymous No.19132238]

>>19132222
Not a meme, the temp control ones are expensive because its a nieche item. You can get one for the stovetop on the cheap and fill it from your kettle

[Anonymous No.19132257]

>>19132235
He's schitzing out because I was posting burr pics last thread.

[Anonymous No.19132541]

>>19130114
It’s WIRED, what did you expect?

[Anonymous No.19132716]

Bought some of this because every coffee from the Yemen I've had has been spot on:

https://shop.darkwoodscoffee.co.uk/collections/coffee/products/dark-woods-reserve-tin-yemen-fawaz-ali-wahab?variant=43570583699681

I think it'll go pretty good in both ChemEx and a mokka pot. Any UK fucks had it? Dark Woods gear has always been pretty good in the past.

[Anonymous No.19132720]

>>19126281
>>19127247
*sips*
Now that's good coffee

[Anonymous No.19132834]

>>19127072
>>19127677
>chocolate syrup
Wait so this is no euphemism for spro?

[Anonymous No.19133018]

>>19132222
>Why are temperature controlled gooseneck kettles so expensive?
I got mine for well under a hundred dollaridoos and it's held up for years under constant use- you don't need a fancy one. If you're serious about goffee it's a borderline trivial expense.

[Anonymous No.19133102]

Should I get Arabica, Robusta or a mix of them if I like black coffee?

[Anonymous No.19133122]

>>19129117

[Anonymous No.19133286]

>be at the end of a bag of coffee
>still tasting things in it I haven't before
is my brewing technique inconsistent or is this just the coffee changing flavour over the month it's taken me to drink it?

[Anonymous No.19133289]

>>19133102
Just get a light roast with a flavour profile that sounds appealing to you

[Anonymous No.19133294]

>>19133286
Most likely both

[Anonymous No.19133342]

>>19133286
both
you probably have too much air in your bean storage container.

[Anonymous No.19133457]

It happens to be in the pastebin, and rightly so, but we actually ran across it featured in a maximum hipster Dallas shop (Wayward) and then a few months later were in Colorado. It was amazing then waltzing through the front doors of their main location, and even seeing the roasting setup very aesthetically preserved behind the back wall which was made of all glass so all can see. The staff were super nice, and the location shared a wall with a super legit baker. They'd even bring stuff to you next door, quite the opposite of how most businesses keep a tall spite fence. Staff were super friendly and their triple head espresso machine was actually dialed for 3 different single origin offerings. Fucking amazing, and they were certainly pulling at perfection I've only experienced at a handful of shops. They got me hooked on quad long blacks. This just landed and looks really good. The bag is in the mail. At home we really like a 16 oz pour over, something most shops don't bother developing a recipe for much to my dismay.

[Anonymous No.19133526]

>>19126281
>Taster's Choice
I'm a certified super taster and I never chose this shit

[Anonymous No.19133575]

>https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/faq/i-love-your-mccaf---coffee--where-can-i-buy-it.html
>The “premium roast” McCafé coffee available at retail outlets is similar to the great tasting cup of coffee sold in McDonald’s restaurants.
anyone know where I can get the exact same coffee as McDonalds restaurants? anyone ever try the store bought McCafe stuff? is it any good?

[Anonymous No.19133589]

>>19133575
Ever thought of asking McDonalds?

[Anonymous No.19133649]

>>19133589
okay, I'll do that now

[Anonymous No.19133707]

>>19133102
arabica
it'd be hard to even find nice enough robusta

[Anonymous No.19133710]

>>19133589
>>19133649
>>19133575
I just sent McDonald's my question via their website.
https://www.mcdonalds.com/ca/en-ca/contact-us.html

[Anonymous No.19133759]

Do you think they'd keep selling me fresh beans if they knew I'm roasting them in a skillet on the stove?

[Anonymous No.19133890]

Imagine not roasting your own beans.

[Anonymous No.19133893]

Coffee sucks

[Anonymous No.19133895]

>>19133890
i can touch my own dick but it's better when ur mum touches it because she's a professional

[Anonymous No.19133923]

>>19133895
>he jerks off worse than a woman
Shameful

[Anonymous No.19134018]

>>19133286
How light is the roast?

[Anonymous No.19134061]

>>19133759
this you?

[Anonymous No.19134065]

I feel like I'm doing absolutely everything correct on my machine. but, there's only an even flow at the start of the shot, and for the latter 80% of the pull, it comes out sputtering and pale.
- This is at a proper flow rate. grinding finer makes it too slow and the shot taste terrible. not only that, the coffee only gets 'choked(?)' and still sputters but slower.
- The puck is ALWAYS muddy and messy, and there's a slight dent in the grounds, near the rim of the basket but no hole.
- I've tried being meticulous with my distribution/tamp but it changes nothing. my beans aren't even that old, not even a month.
I'm at a loss for what I'm doing wrong, I cleaned and descaled my machine very recently too. the shots that come out taste okay, but I can tell there's something off about the acidity and I wish they came out nicely.

[Anonymous No.19134069]

>>19133893
yes but what about goffee?

[Anonymous No.19134077]

>>19134065
>not a single mention of any of the tools used
try again honey

[Anonymous No.19134089]

>>19134077
rancilio silva v6
kinu m74 pheonix
random wdt tool and dosing funnel off of etsy

[Anonymous No.19134098]

>>19134089
thanks :)
i can't help you but try to always include as many tools and measurements and whatever when asking for help.
because otherwise it can be very hard to actually fix the problem.
also its better to be proactive in terms of detail inclusion than being reactive.
hope you get the help you need
:)

[Anonymous No.19134100]

>>19134089
Lower your opv. Start using paper filters and a puck screen.

[Anonymous No.19134108]

>>19134098
be proactive in terms of this dick, fag

[Anonymous No.19134125]

>>19134065
Overloading the basket. How many grams are you putting in there? Unless you have a 18 or 19 gram aftermarket basket its probably meant to do like 16. Then with a proper does you can grind finer without the issues you had before

[Anonymous No.19134126]

>>19134061
That's just mean, preying on someone with debilitating anxiety

[Anonymous No.19134133]

>>19134100
Hes right about opv but wrong about the gadgets. Filters and puck screen might help you perfect a good espresso but cant save a workflow that isnt dialed in

[Anonymous No.19134143]

>>19134125
the stock basket is 17g and I've had the best results with that amount. seems to get worse in either direction.

[Anonymous No.19134149]

>>19134108
kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.19134151]

>>19134133
>Filters and puck screen might help you perfect a good espresso but cant save a workflow that isnt dialed in
Do your homework.
https://youtu.be/lPAel26Cw_A

[Anonymous No.19134152]

>>19134143
Alright, this still has to be dialed in a bit for each bean but check the opv thing then, what pressure is it running at stock? Should be googlable. Also I assume you are not using a pressurized basket (just a sanity check)

[Anonymous No.19134160]

>>19134151
To you think those guys run their stock baskets at 14 bar? Or maybe they have their basics down? Would you take a guess right now? Also not watching your vid Jonathan

[Anonymous No.19134166]

>>19134160
I think those guys understand that taking steps to ensure a more even flow of water through the puck helps immensely with dialing in a shot.

[Anonymous No.19134168]

>>19134152
I have a pressure gauge shipping right now, but apparently my model is known for having stock pressure anywhere from 10-14 bar. and it's not a pressurized basket.

[Anonymous No.19134178]

>>19134168
Its a 15bar pump that isn't at all factory calibrated. You could be running at 7 or 15. I believe you'll need a 20 and 21mm wrench to adjust it.

[Anonymous No.19134182]

>>19134166
The words in your post are kinda true but youre being dishonest about the difference those extra toys will make, the shower screen already evenly disperses the water. I never said the screen and paper are pointless, just that they are fo going from good to great, not as a bandaid for grind/dose/pressure issues. Do you really disagree with that?

[Anonymous No.19134222]

>>19134182
I removed the stock "shower" screen from my flair58 for a paper sandwich+puck screen. Its a wild improvement for how cheap it is. Silvias are shipped with a shitty big hex bolt attaching theirs. Most people end up swapping it for the IMS replacement, new jetbreaker, and flush screw. This largely fixes the stock channeling issues, but runs about $45. My suggestion is a much cheaper avenue to try. Please just sit in the corner until someone mentions moka pots. Thats where you shine.
>ensure a more even flow of water through the puck helps immensely with dialing in a shot

[Anonymous No.19134236]

>>19134222
Did you even read my post? Again, which of those upgrades do you suggest before getting the opv under control and the dosage right? You are still being dishonest: I know you are knowledgable enough to grok this but choose to keep arguing

[Anonymous No.19134279]

>>19134236
>the shower screen already evenly disperses the water
It doesn't do that good of a job. Its still not going to do that good of a job once he downdoses. Sure dropping his pressure will help a bit with puck integrity. Thats why I suggested it.
> which of those upgrades do you suggest before getting the opv under control and the dosage right?
A 3 cent bottom paper filter. It'll let him grind a touch finer without clogging his basket, eliminating alot of the "sputtering" he's getting. Now do you have any moka tips for him or not?

[Anonymous No.19134328]

>>19134279
OK, ignoring your strange tangent about your modded lever machine I think you are now talking sense, I wouldnt necessarily use the paper as a crutch to grind finer but w/e its worth a shot

[Anonymous No.19134341]

>filtering presso oils
absolutely haram

[Anonymous No.19134349]

>>19134341
He has a flair, so wildly varying pressure, he needs the paper to normalize the process a bit

[Anonymous No.19134369]

>>19134328
Its almost as if theres a design flaw in the silvia that would tell us if he's updosing. But if he's not mentioning a fucking machine bolt imprint in the exact center of his basket, he's probably fine with his dose. Its some OTHER channeling issue.
>- The puck is ALWAYS muddy and messy, and there's a slight dent in the grounds, near the rim of the basket but no hole.

[Anonymous No.19134383]

>>19134341
>>19134349

[Anonymous No.19134387]

>>19134349
>need to remove oils for "machine" to work
get rid of the machine is the solution

[Anonymous No.19134405]

>>19134383
>thinks crema and oil is the same

[Anonymous No.19134427]

Clearly if your "machine" has no temp or pressure control you have to convince yourself that only distribution matters, I get it. But dont go giving other people advice based on that yikes

[Anonymous No.19134459]

Low tier bait from the espressoless masses.

[Anonymous No.19134585]

I went for the big one. I'm thrilled.

[Anonymous No.19134591]

>>19134585
Not a huge fan of it, but I will say that if anyone is considering getting illy, get this instead because it's basically the same thing.

[Anonymous No.19134633]

>>19134585
>>19134459
i hate italians so much its unreal
love from Netherlands

[Anonymous No.19134640]

>>19134633
I don't hate italians. Just their coffee.

[Anonymous No.19134647]

>>19134633
>Netherlands
dude weed lmao

Why you hate them though?

[Anonymous No.19134690]

>>19134647
>Why you hate them though?
they are wrong about literally everything to do with food and coffee.
italians are incapable of making good coffee
they made the espresso machine and yet they cant make a good espresso to save their life
they made the moka pot and have literally no idea how to make good coffee with it.
and not only that but they refuse to learn or adapt or anything they just sit there and drink their dish water and say they dont need to change because their nonna told them how to cook/make coffee so it can't be wrong.
they continue to propagate misinformation which leads to people make bad decisions.
literally everything they say to do to make coffee with a moka is wrong.
so when someone buys a moka pot and reads how to use it, they use it wrong and make bad coffee and then say the moka cant make good coffee, also they will unironically say shit like "dont clean your moka pot".
and they even call coffee made with the moka pot espresso even though it objectively isn't and they should know that because they fucking invented the espresso machine
no country on earth has helped and hurt coffee more than itali.
it is actually incredible how fucking shit italians are.
>inb4 nuked for off topic discussion

[Anonymous No.19134705]

>>19134690
kek
you the one who never went to italy?

[Anonymous No.19134728]

>>19134705
>went to italy?
fuck off schizo

[Anonymous No.19134731]

>>19134690
Justa likea nonna used to makea.

[Anonymous No.19134813]

>>19133575
It's really not hard to find, at one point wasn't it sold in Walmart?

[Anonymous No.19134995]

Cancel Italy.

[Anonymous No.19134997]

The Giannina is here bros, I washed it and now I'm making throwaway coffee to clean it.
There's a nice smell of coffee that filled my entire kitchen and the room next to it.

Honestly FUCK Bialetti trash and FUCK aluminium shit.

[Anonymous No.19135001]

>>19134997
Being mirror polished inox my autism gets triggered once it's full of fingerprints and water stains, but God she's a beauty isn't she?

[Anonymous No.19135003]

>>19134997
>washed it
ngmi

[Anonymous No.19135040]

>>19134995
>Cancel Italy.
im already on it

[Anonymous No.19135042]

>>19135001
Post the innards

[Anonymous No.19135047]

>>19135001
>>19134997
anon, why is the lid down?

[Anonymous No.19135063]

>>19135003
Washed with hot water to remove the polishing powder residues from the factory.

>>19135042
I only have this picture and can't take another for the moment.
Inside it's completely flat which is super nice because it's easy to clean.

>>19135047
Because I took the picture when I was making the first "coffee" with water only, to avoid getting splashed with boiling water.

[Anonymous No.19135075]

>>19135063
I also noticed that the holes in the upper filter seems to be narrower than the other moka pots.
This suggests me that I could grind finer.

[Anonymous No.19135076]

>>19135063
>to avoid getting splashed with boiling water.
isnt that what that thing on top of the spout is for.

[Anonymous No.19135077]

I just realized I have no backup instant coffee. One should always have a jar of instant for times of need.

[Anonymous No.19135081]

>>19135075
wow that filter looks like shit.
pop in a E&B Lab competition filter.

[Anonymous No.19135085]

>>19135076
Yes but since there's no coffee to allow for counterpressure, you get 1 bar of boiling water splashing from it so...better play safe.

[Anonymous No.19135093]

>>19135081
Yeah I was thinking of doing that but I don't think it fits the Giannina.
Filters from aluminium moka are universal but those from stainless steel ones tend to be different.
I'll take the measures and see but I suspect that it's 1 mm narrower than the E&B.

[Anonymous No.19135103]

>>19135093
i mostly meant the machining quality looked bad.
those huge scratches are... worrying. at least for me.

[Anonymous No.19135131]

>>19135103
TheWiredGourmet would spend 4 hours lapping the bottom then tell you it didn't make a difference.
>>19135063
>removing the factory seasoning
ngmi

[Anonymous No.19135134]

>>19135093
weird, i cant find specs for the filter literally anywhere.

[Anonymous No.19135146]

>>19135134
Why doesn't theirs look like shit?
https://us.consiglioskitchenware.com/collections/giannina-espresso-makers/products/giannini-3-cup-replacement-filter-plate

[Anonymous No.19135147]

>>19135134
I looked on Amazon on the page of the spare filter and in the questions section there are people asking for the measures, one answer says 56 mm and the E&B is 57 mm.

I'll measure mine and see, if it's not matching I guess I'll just use aeropress filters and WA LA.

[Anonymous No.19135195]

>>19135146
what are these? photos for ants?
also compare the one in that link the the picture of the filter here, they are totally different.
the filter here looks very dull and not polished at all and has a different hole pattern. the holes in your link go all the way to the edges, the one here doesnt come close.
>one answer says 56 mm and the E&B is 57 mm.
i was talking about hole measurements not size of the actual filter.
the competition filter has a hole size of 0.2 mm, .6 smaller than the standard size.
and the full dimensions of the filter are listed here.

1 cup: external diameter 46mm - internal diameter 39 mm

2 cups: external diameter 48.5 mm - internal diameter 42 mm

3 cups: external diameter 57 mm - internal diameter 49.2 mm

6 cups: external diameter 66.25 mm - internal diameter 55 mm

[Anonymous No.19135200]

>>19135147
oops forgot to tag you
>>19135195

[Anonymous No.19135221]

>>19135195
>the filter here looks very dull and not polished at all and has a different hole pattern.
Sounds like the mokagang scammed another one.

[Anonymous No.19135476]

>>19132720
*sips*

[Anonymous No.19135645]

Who here /immersion gang/? (pic is just friendly fun, ily perco chads). Its time for my morning percolation. We got some ethiopian washed heirloom from Shakiso. Gonna french press them hoffman style

[Anonymous No.19135669]

>>19135645
where does drip fit in here?

[Anonymous No.19135678]

>>19135669
Drip is percolation anon, but dont fret, its a clickbait image for a youtube video

Coffee is good, thicc but thats why I immerse. Sadly I cant give you any deets on the flavor notes because of covid I cant taste shit. Acidity seems on correct level tho so Ill call it a success. What are you brewing this morning?

[Anonymous No.19135680]

>>19135678
nice fingers

[Anonymous No.19135684]

>>19135645
French press are too much of a pain to clean to be worth using.

[Anonymous No.19135735]

>>19135678
I've got some Vittoria Mountain Grown bubbling through my drip machine. love my Breville

[Anonymous No.19135985]

What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.19136076]

>>19135985
normie "coffee"

[Anonymous No.19136293]

>>19134585
First shot did not grind fine enough. 18/36 in 15 seconds.
Tasted more watery than syrupy. The acidity was okay.

[Anonymous No.19136499]

>>19135985
Top class coffee beans

[Anonymous No.19136503]

So the options we have are either we let you post about burr geometry unhinged your you dripfeed us lavazza self posting? How can one nerd be so salty. Anyway the lavazzaposting can continue, its much more enjoyable and informative

[Anonymous No.19136506]

>>19133707
Kaapi royale is common enough nice robusta

[Anonymous No.19136531]

>>19136503
>we
I don't understand. How many are you?

[Anonymous No.19136578]

>>19136531
57 people, you coulda done the math yourself

[Anonymous No.19136629]

>>19134585
>>19136293
Second shot took 36seconds. With milk this time 1:1 ratio.
Thicker body. Does not taste bad.

[Anonymous No.19136769]

Is RDT necessary for manual grinders?

[Anonymous No.19136774]

>>19136769
It's never "necessary" but it will help. Clumps can form whenever you grind fine enough.

[Anonymous No.19136782]

>>19136774
I notice that, but
1. Water presence inside metal container gives me uneasy feeling.
2. Doesn't static retention happen for fines and aren't fines bad for the brewing in general?

[Anonymous No.19136806]

>>19136782
Oh I misread your original post, I thought you were talking about WDT not RDT. Fucking similar acronyms. Anyway, static retention can happen even with bigger pieces and a bit of moistness on the beans isn't going to screw anything up. I mean the same concern would exist for electric grinders, and yet the technique is popular and no one has any problems with it.

[Anonymous No.19136853]

>>19136806
That makes sense. I will try that later, thanks.

[Anonymous No.19137347]

I will never say that putting a drop of water in the grinder is a "technique" named after some dork youtuber.

[Anonymous No.19137368]

>look up french press grounds recommendations
>it's all DARK ROAST

[Anonymous No.19137374]

>>19137368
>french press grounds recommendations
what do you mean?

[Anonymous No.19137408]

>>19137374
I'm a pleb who doesn't own a burr grinder and doesn't go to local roasteries for coffee grounds.

[Anonymous No.19137422]

>>19137408
I don't think you need a burr grinder for french press. Coffee ground with a blade grinder is still gonna taste a lot better than shit that was ground months prior to you buying it.

[Anonymous No.19137423]

>>19136782
>Water presence inside metal container gives me uneasy feeling
moron
its like 3 droplets of water spread across x grams of beans.
i have been doing for a couple years now and have had no issue at all.

[Anonymous No.19137431]

>>19137347
>after some dork youtuber
it isnt
>blah blah blah i dont know what technique means blah blah
>a way of carrying out a particular task, especially the execution or performance of an artistic work or a scientific procedure.
yes adding a tiny bit of water to the coffee grinding process counts as a technique.

[Anonymous No.19137440]

>>19137431
https://lifestylelab.ca/ross-droplet-technique/
>Back in 2005 David Ross pioneered a revolutionary new technique that has since been coined the Ross Droplet Technique, or RDT. Sounds pretty fancy, but it only takes one piece of equipment: a misting bottle.
Retard poof shit. I don't need some dork and his mister to put a drop of water in my grinder.

[Anonymous No.19137447]

>>19136503
Look at him schitz. You think I'm putting lavazza in the wug because you're crying about burrs?

[Anonymous No.19137461]

>>19137423
>moron
>i have been doing for a couple years now and have had no issue at all.
I too smoke a pack of fags a day. Up till now zero problems.

[Anonymous No.19137472]

All my coffee tastes like shit. K cups, french press, doesnt matter. Sweet cream is good, but I dont want diabetes I prefer my coffee black. What am I doing wrong? I also like my coffee cold so I can drink it fast.

[Anonymous No.19137481]

>>19137472
>K cups, french press
Have you tried buying good coffee and preparing it in a nonretarded way?

[Anonymous No.19137489]

>>19137481
No, I don't have time for this. What do you recommend for good ground coffee?

[Anonymous No.19137496]

Let me rephrase that: what the fuck at the store can I get that doesn't taste like a fucking dirt?

[Anonymous No.19137504]

Retard.

[Anonymous No.19137508]

>>19137496
Very little. Start ripping open bags and grinding it at the store. Try some stumptown.

[Anonymous No.19137521]

>>19137496
I liked Peets Big Bang before I got in to specialty roasters.

[Anonymous No.19137524]

>>19137521
And to add, they're one of very few grocery store brands that put the roast date on the bag. It probably differs based on location but I could find bags roasted 2-4 weeks prior which is much better than anything else from the store.

[Anonymous No.19137533]

>>19137461
its been around since 2005 and literally no one has ever had any kind of problem.
you can honestly have more problems grinding just ultra light beans with no rtd.
the amount of actual water that is being left on the burrs themselves in so small that it is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.19137535]

>>19137489
>No, I don't have time for this
then you dont deserve good coffee.
>good ground coffee?
AAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHA
no.

[Anonymous No.19137538]

>>19137496
Best beans in my store is a yellow bag called new york light roast something. They are still omega crap compared to getting beans from the roaster, but they are the top student in retard class

[Anonymous No.19137545]

>>19137440
do you want a massive amount of static and grounds retention?
its fine if you do, but if you dont want that then you have to use rtd.
its as simple as that.

[Anonymous No.19137598]

>>19126281

[Anonymous No.19137606]

>>19137545
I put a bit of water in with my beans. I don't call what I do by some retarded name as if it's a mystical method of grinding coffee.

[Anonymous No.19137615]

>>19137606
In your case, the retardation is implied.

[Anonymous No.19137650]

>>19134585
>>19136293
>>19136629
Third shot of the day: >we schizo edition

It's not bad. The robusta aftertaste isn't nice to my palate. Remove the robusta and it's much better and tasty even without milk.
The added caffeine is a nice touch.

[Anonymous No.19137690]

>new coffee brewing 30-40 seconds faster than previous coffee at the exact same grind size
That's a thing that can happen? I figured the same grind size would produce the same speed brew regardless of the beans in

[Anonymous No.19137692]

>>19137496
Peets
Philz
Look if there are any specialty instant companies you can buy from

[Anonymous No.19137693]

>>19137606
when you invent something you get to name it.
this ross guy invented this technique, so its named after him.
every time i use it i dont say "and now im going to rdt these beans" i just do it, but if im explaining my process to someone else i will say the name of the techniques i use and were i learned from.
same as wdt.
its also extremely common to say the name of something such as
>and now the next part of this process is to apply the Ross Droplet Technique(RDT) where by adding a small amount of water to your dose of coffee before grinding will reduce the overall static and result in less retention in your grinder.
and then every time you mention this technique after this(within context) you just shorten it to RDT.
because saying RDT is wayyyyyyyyyyy faster than saying this "adding a small amount of water to your dose of coffee before grinding will reduce the overall static and result in less retention in your grinder." every single fucking time you bring it up.

[Anonymous No.19137697]

>>19137693
imagine being this loyal to brands

[Anonymous No.19137698]

>>19137697

[Anonymous No.19137703]

>>19137690
yes.
coffee grown from different varietals in different countries at different altitudes in different climates will produce different coffee beans which will behave differently even if roasted by the same roaster to the same level and ground at the same size.
this isnt that much of a problem for some methods as it is for others but it will mean you have to dial in for each new bean that you get, which is why i suspect most people just get the same bean every time.

[Anonymous No.19137705]

>>19137697
this is bait.

[Anonymous No.19137708]

>>19137703
I guess I've gotten lucky since the last 3 coffees I've tried all brewed at around the same time at the same grind setting and didn't taste like they needed any fine tuning

[Anonymous No.19137714]

>>19137708
>last 3 coffees
what were they.

[Anonymous No.19137720]

>>19137690
>exact same grind size
>same grind size

[Anonymous No.19137726]

>>19137714
A natural bolivian
A blend of a puerto rican and an ethiopian
I think the third was a washed Thai coffee
All light roasts
>>19137720
same setting on my grinder you know what I mean stop being a facetious retard

[Anonymous No.19137757]

>>19137726
Wait the same setting can produce different particle distributions with different beans?

[Anonymous No.19137762]

>>19137757
Yes that was indeed surprising for me to find out
Hence my post

[Anonymous No.19137784]

>>19137762
Please post any more groundbreaking realizations. You and the mokaautist could write a blog.

[Anonymous No.19137787]

>>19137784
You're the only one making a huge deal out of it
I was just surprised to realise this I didn't come in like "GUYS I FOUND OUT SOMETHING CRAZY THAT'S GOING TO SHOCK YOU"

[Anonymous No.19137800]

>>19137787
>Guys did you know I'm supposed to use different settings for different beans? I think I'm going to try this whole "dialing in" thing

[Anonymous No.19137810]

>>19137784
>mokaautist could write a blog.
but anon, this is my blog :)
had a great honduras natty moka for lunch yesterday

[Anonymous No.19137850]

>>19137650
We're honored. I wish you many more cups of robusta with milk anon

[Anonymous No.19137870]

>>19137810
Hes also confusing you for me, see e.g. >>19134222 its called solipsism syndrome and is a high level form of schizo

[Anonymous No.19137874]

Mokapsueds in shambles. Might be the aluminum.

[Anonymous No.19138347]

>>19137850
Thank you, will do.
I had another blend with robusta in it called espresso intenso. Without milk there was a lingering taste of ashtray water, wet leather, wet dog in the back of my throat. Almost for three hours.
But with milk it's really good. That 40ml espresso shot can flavor 170ml of milk easy giving you 200ml+ milk coffees that taste like an 100% arabica machiato.

[Anonymous No.19138537]

>>19138347
Milk won't wash away your sins.

[Anonymous No.19138773]

why do people and the internet keep saying "1 cup of coffee" as if it's a standard measurement for anything, for ex. 1 cup has 95mg of caffiene.
I can grind up 1 bean and make a cup of coffee. It also depends on steep time and roast level.

[Anonymous No.19138817]

>>19138773
The scientific/research definition of "cup of coffee" is something like 6oz
Lots of coffee machine manufacturers also do the same 6oz cup for their carafes to market "6 cup coffee maker"
The "Specialty Coffee Association" publishes their own standard and used to explicitly state 8.25g per 150ml for standard cupping (since moved to heritage status) but have updated their standards to use just the (equivalent) ratio of 55g per litre
https://sca.coffee/research/coffee-standards?page=resources&d=cupping-standards

None of the above define a caffeine content

[Anonymous No.19138834]

>>19138773
>>19138817
it really chaps my vadge that my coffee pot measures out cups on the side and they aren't FUCKING CUPS. I checked this morning, 3 actual cups of water = like 5.666 cups in the coffee pot. this makes following instructions fucking ridiculous.
>buy bag of Vittoria coffee
>says use one tbsp of ground coffee per cup
>cup of fucking what
>buy another brand of coffee
>says use 2-3 tbsp of ground coffee per cup

[Anonymous No.19138857]

>>19138834
lmao that's like 125ml to the "cup"

[Anonymous No.19138870]

>>19138834
This is why we weigh things anon.

[Anonymous No.19138885]

>>19138834
It indicates servings, not units of measure.

[Anonymous No.19138948]

>>19138817
>6oz
i fucking hate the italians so much.

[Anonymous No.19138962]

>>19138834
a properly brewed 6 cup moka pot will make between 150 - 160ml of coffee(i think, it has been a while since i measured, i will do that for todays cup(lol))
which is still around 100ml away from a metric cup.
but thats what i say when i have coffee.
for me 25g ground coffee in a 6 cup moka makes 150ish ml which = 1 cup.
and i have about 2-3 of these a day.
-moka schizo :)

[Anonymous No.19138972]

>>19138885
>It indicates servings
?
>buy a 6 cup coffee maker
>make coffee
>pour it into 1 metric cup
>it only makes it halfway
>not even close to 6 cups
>sue the coffee maker company for false advertising

[Anonymous No.19139019]

>>19138972
it needs to be at least 3 times bigger than this

[Anonymous No.19139136]

>>19139019
thats what she said

[Anonymous No.19139210]

>>19138962
i have confirmed
150ml
good goffee :)
but i sneezed while taking a sip and got goffee up my nose :(

[Anonymous No.19139215]

>>19139210
how many tablespoons would you say is about 25 grambs? one heaping?

[Anonymous No.19139248]

>>19139215
you dont fill moka by weight you fill by volume and then weigh after.

[Anonymous No.19139249]

>>19139248
I don't have a moka anyway I was just wondering if i'm using way too much or too little coffee by volume is all

[Anonymous No.19139303]

>>19139249
the standard moka basket is smaller than the E&B Lab basket.
so ymmv
i usually overfill the first time i use a bean and then use the back of a knife to level it off and then weigh it and then only grind that weight next time i use those beans.
so for me a full and level basket can be anywhere from 23 to 27 grams but you can fit up to 35g depending on the beans and if you like tap and shake the basket to settle as much coffee as possible, not tamping or compressing just fitting as much as i can by over filling then tapping on the bench and then filling again and then leveling when i feel like its not going down anymore just from tapping.
the highest dose i have got from this method is 35g.
this method will result in a much longer brew time but if using the correct method will still result in a good brew but much much stronger.

i dont do this method often, just when i feel like having some fun.
:)
i wouldn't recommend doing this unless you have perfected a normal moka brew over the course of a couple years.

[Anonymous No.19139794]

Amerilards slowly realizing their measuring units are a joke.

[Anonymous No.19139804]

>>19139794
>Amerilards
we are talking about italians using stupid measurements not american you fucking idiot
>Ounce derives from the Ancient Roman uncia, a unit in the Ancient Roman units of measurement weighing about 27.35 grams or 0.967 of an Avoirdupois ounce, that was one-twelfth ( 1⁄12) of the Roman pound (libra).

[Anonymous No.19139806]

>>19139794
I'll measure YOUR unit >:|

[Anonymous No.19139840]

>>19139804
No sure if mutt public education or not but italians use metric system.

>>19139806
Thank you anon always good to lend a hand.

[Anonymous No.19140701]

>>19130901
Time is valleys

[Anonymous No.19140717]

>>19126697
What a load of baseless shite

[Anonymous No.19140760]

>>19126281
I've been drinking Aldi instant coffee for a few weeks because it's pretty good and fast/easy. I bought some Nestle Taster's Choice at Costco because it was 33% off, but I haven't tried it yet, and it still cost more by weight than the Aldi stuff.

[Anonymous No.19141175]

>>19140701
i want to fuck him so bad.

[Anonymous No.19141628]

I got this in the mail two days ago. I had never had natural process beans so I played it safe with a blend that has both washed and natural. It's also my first non "espresso" blend since I'm trying to expand my palate.
The local moka schizo chewed me out last time for using a Brikka and letting it whistle, and recommended a slightly finer grind, so I did that.
I stopped it before then and even though it pained me to throw in the sink the last bit of liquid, the resulting cup was pretty interesting. It tasted... refreshing, somehow. It lacked the bitterness I've always associated with coffee, which threw me off and I was unsure *what* it actually tasted like. I kept sipping it and trying to figure out the acidity part of the taste and if I liked it, but towards the end of the cup I started tasting the sweetness aspect of it.
Unfortunately I'm a tastelet so I can only define the experience in "bitter", "acid", "sweet" and such so the notes of hibiscus, juniper and such on the label get lost on me.

[Anonymous No.19141641]

It's good 4chan etiquette to let generals archive before making another.

[Anonymous No.19141644]

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