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Anonymous Wed Mar 29 11:25:14 2023 No.19104182 [Reply] [Original]

Why are they all pushing the veggie / impossible burgers so hard? Why not just make portobello burgers? They taste better, they're good for you, mushrooms actually taste meaty, and its not made out of unknown chemicals and particleboard trying to simulate meat flavors.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 11:33:23 2023 No.19104195 >>19104182 it's called marketing, sweaty

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 11:40:49 2023 No.19104203 >>19104182 mushroom belongs on a veggie burger. it's not a meal in itself. vegans hate when they're served 30 calories of mushroom instead of a meal. if you want something less processed, tempeh is a good option.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 11:44:36 2023 No.19104205 >>19104182 >its not made out of unknown chemicals and particleboard The people pushing vegan food want you to eat unknown chemicals and particleboard. It's a feature, not a bug.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 11:46:22 2023 No.19104208 >>19104182 Meat is too healthy, they want you more docile

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 11:50:53 2023 No.19104215 >>19104182 >>19104205 i don't eat them myself, but i just looked at Impossible Burger ingredients and none of them are unknown to me. do you just east stuff not knowing what it is?

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 12:01:50 2023 No.19104229

>>19104182
>Beef burger
>Requires a cow
>Must obtain cow (Disregard if already have cows)
>Must be raised (minimum) 1 year. Takes several months to be born, if not purchased.
>Must be professionally butchered and cut into pieces.
>Sells for market price.

Versus
>Vegetable Slurry Patty
>Made of various ingredients, mostly carob bean and other plant matter
>No need to raise them, they're already being grown in massive quantities at minimal prices.
>Even if you decide to grow them, it only takes 1 planting season (4-5 months.) to receive the produce.
>Throw them into a machine
>4 for $10.99
>wa la
Tell me which one is more labor intensive and I'll tell you why meat-substitutes are on the rise.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 12:16:32 2023 No.19104248 >>19104203 This. A portobello mushroom is all of 3g of protein.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 12:28:33 2023 No.19104259 >>19104182 Beyond, impossible, whatever forest ain't vegan. No self-respecting vgan touches that crap. Big fake meat hates on my homemade seitan

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 12:42:19 2023 No.19104279 >>19104259 >Beyond, impossible, whatever forest ain't vegan Both Beyond Meat & Impossible Burger are vegan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 12:42:40 2023 No.19104281 >>19104229 >meat-substitutes are on the rise. Nobody's eating them though. Dead market

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 12:45:54 2023 No.19104288

>>19104281
>The global meat substitutes market is projected to grow from $5.88 billion in 2022 to $12.30 billion by 2029, at a CAGR of 11.11% in forecast period, 2022-2029.

https://www.fortunebusinessinsights.com/industry-reports/meat-substitutes-market-100239

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 12:47:43 2023 No.19104295 >>19104288 Deliberately rosy predictions to attract unsuspecting VCs

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 12:49:14 2023 No.19104298 >>19104295 >Nobody's eating them though. >$5.88bn in 2022 I'm sorry that reality does not agree with your opinion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 12:55:36 2023 No.19104313 >>19104182 >Why are they all pushing the veggie / impossible burgers so hard they're not. they did about 4 years ago, but not now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 12:56:41 2023 No.19104318 File: 135 KB, 237x303, asian_soy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19104203 >vegans hate when they're served 30 calories of mushroom instead of a meal simple solution is to quit being a pretentious and pompous ass.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 13:06:28 2023 No.19104336 >>19104203 >vegans hate Vegans hate people who can enjoy a well rounded diet guilt free. They love their strict moral code and self-flagellation otherwise they can't get a moral high and chastise everyone else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 13:12:30 2023 No.19104345 >>19104182 That or just eat meat, aye.

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 13:23:42 2023 No.19104371

>"Not meat" burger
>Tries to fool you into thinking it's meat and fails every time
>Veggie burger
>Doesn't try to pretend to be meat so you don't have to judge it based on how meat like it is
I will happily buy a bean burger or whatever. Honestly vegetarian anything. As long as it doesn't pretend to be meat while doing a poor job at it. Just own it, I don't get why that's so hard

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 13:39:05 2023 No.19104398

>>19104182
What i don't get is why do they make these disgusting """""""""""""meat replacement""""""""""" from s0y and cancer causing chemicals instead of making actually tasty original vegetarian food? Nobody eats that shit, actually interesting new food will sell way better than the "big mac but it taste like wet socks and give you men tits".

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 13:42:53 2023 No.19104402 >>19104398 >Nobody eats that shit >The global meat substitutes market is...$5.88 billion in 2022 https://www.fortunebusinessinsights.com/industry-reports/meat-substitutes-market-100239

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 13:43:31 2023 No.19104404 >>19104398 Same reason skim milk and hot dogs exist. Companies take leftovers, undesirable cuts and plants usually sold for next to nothing as feed, reconstitute it as a new food and try to meme it into a successful product.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 13:44:30 2023 No.19104408 >>19104398 They should use tofu or seitan not soy like they use for fake meat

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 13:46:09 2023 No.19104412 >>19104408 Isn't tofu made of soy?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 13:47:02 2023 No.19104413 >>19104182 Because our Jewish masters are pushing the “great” reset. You vill be a good slave and eat ze fake meat and all that jazz..

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 13:48:26 2023 No.19104415 >>19104413 >and all that jazz Your heart's not really into /pol/ posting is it? I get it, it must be tiring to be an edgy contrarian every single living moment of your day.

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 13:55:46 2023 No.19104434

>>19104415
Did I strike a nerve a nerve there moshe? It’s all out in the open now and people aren’t falling for the globalist bs anymore. You can take your fake meat, bugs, and whatever dehumanizing crap you vile creatures come up with and shove em up your ass. You’re gonna have to pry my juicy burgers and fries from my cold, dead hands numnbuts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 13:58:04 2023 No.19104439 >>19104229 >No need to raise them, they're already being grown in massive quantities at minimal prices. So are cows, retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 13:58:28 2023 No.19104440 >>19104434 That's the spirit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 14:00:53 2023 No.19104446 >>19104402 $5.88B in the entire world is a hilariously small number.

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 14:03:29 2023 No.19104449

>>19104446
Yes, and if the argument was it's nothing compared to the global market for meat (it's like, 2% if that) that'd be one thing. Except $5.88bn is not "nobody" and it's larger than any market for Tofu or Seitan or weird bean burgers that have whole peas & corn in them for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 14:07:28 2023 No.19104457 >>19104449 >Global Tofu Market size was valued at US$ 247.98 Bn. in 2021 and the total revenue is expected to grow at 5.2% through 2022 to 2029, reaching nearly US$ 372.01 Bn. Nigger

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 14:26:19 2023 No.19104503 >>19104457 Consumer market, sweetie

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 15:19:01 2023 No.19104641 >>19104503 >Global market is used to describe both numbers As opposed to what for tofu you mean?

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 15:24:41 2023 No.19104652

>>19104182
It's pretty brilliant marketing because it gets retards who became vegan to "own" the meat eating chuds the imagined ability to say "I can eat a burger that tastes the exact same as a beef burger, but it's made from bean paste and xanthan gum!" Why is it being marketed so much? Because it's the dietary equivalent of coal rolling for vegan libtards who want to own the chuds.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 15:26:50 2023 No.19104659 >>19104182 >Why push name brands to a consumer base that wouldn't know whole foods if one bit them on the ass? Fast food people mystify me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 15:28:21 2023 No.19104663 >>19104457 >>19104641 Just wanted to let you know I'm a random guy reading your back and forth with this other guy, and I agree with you, the other guy is retarded.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 15:45:12 2023 No.19104702 >>19104182 Whoa, there are shroom burgers? Sounds good, I want one

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 15:51:24 2023 No.19104727 >>19104702 Shake shack has a pretty damn good one. I wish we had locations where I live. Their burgers are better than 5 guys, better than in n out and half the price of 5 guys, twice the price of in n out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 01:40:38 2023 No.19106305 >>19104182 are they though? it seems to have disappeared from grocery stores and FF places.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 01:43:55 2023 No.19106312 >>19104182 >Why are they all pushing the veggie / impossible burgers so hard? Because it's cheaper to produce and lets them drive up profits. Follow the money, OP.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 04:28:45 2023 No.19106756 >>19104412 Yes.

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 04:38:19 2023 No.19106775

>>19104229
The plant one, duh. Farming is the worst kind of labor. You have to water shit, keep pests from killing it all with nasty chemicals, then there is the harvest and planting prep. There is a fuck ton of work for farming, and a lot of labor is required. Immigrant labor usually, on visas or via illegal methods. And it can be seasonal, making it even shittier.

Animals are easier, they basically do their own thing. You just have to herd them around and patch them up when/if they get hurt, and keep predators away (which in some areas isn't even a concern). Doesn't require seasonal immigrant labor. Converts useless plant matter (grass & weed) that is super abundant into tasty meat that has essential fats for us humans. Sure the cowboy thing of the past eras may have been grueling, but not with modern transpo and butchering processes.

The only thing worse is fishing. That shit is far more brutal work.

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 04:44:21 2023 No.19106788

>>19104398
The scientists who developed it think it is replacing meat, but the corpo overlords just want to move excess/undesired product.

What actually happened is some company has excess X items laying about from factory processes, and was like "How can I sell this to customers" and scientists slammed it all together creating a facsimile of a burger. This lets the corpos sell more shit for more profit.

Ground beef is how meat packers sell unwanted meat bits. This is no different for the plant farmers: take unwanted plant bits and grind them up into a slurry that can be pattied and turned into a "burger". If it tastes close enough, then they have goyslop they can sell for profit, getting rid of all that waste they have lying around.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 07:50:20 2023 No.19107139 >>19104259 >vegans >self respecting

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 08:26:42 2023 No.19107167 >>19104182 Because it was an untapped market.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 19:08:12 2023 No.19108513 File: 35 KB, 473x477, 1546186230370.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19104182 >why are corporations trying to trick retards into buying their shitty products over shit made by your local farmer? no idea anon completely fucking baffles me

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 19:13:07 2023 No.19108525 >>19104182 Because of ESG ratings dumbass

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 19:21:22 2023 No.19108539 Look up "intolerant minority" Inb4 a bunch of low-IQ retards who go to conspiratorial thinking because they lack knowledge

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