Home coffee bar

[Anonymous No.19067542]

Hi ck
I've been using a french press forever and getting starbucks lattes.
I bought some beans and went over to my friend's place for a visit. My friend made me a cappuccino with this machine, the breville Oracle. It was godly. It goes for about as much as my first car.
Is this my only option if I want that level of coffee at home? Will it work forever or be expensive to maintain? Should I wait for a sale? Are there good entry level options?

[Anonymous No.19067546]

It's great but wait for a sale.

[Anonymous No.19067557]

>>19067542
>breville oracle
$2,200
>breville barista
$600 and does the same exact thing.

https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Express-Espresso/dp/B00CH9QWOU

[Anonymous No.19067562]

>>19067542
Don't do it. Get an aeropress and hand grind your beans that you roasted yourself. Only 45 minutes of labor to make 1 cup of coffee

[Anonymous No.19067576]

>>19067542
The cheapest way to do it would be to buy a Gaggia Classic used and then upgrade the parts. There are a bunch of guides on the internet. It would probably end up something like this:
$300-350 for a used machine
$100-150 for parts to upgrade the machine (cheaper if you already have a soldering iron and stuff)
$60 for a better portafilter
then you would also want to spend some money on a good grinder
Look up Gaggiuino if you want to learn how to upgrade.

[Anonymous No.19067581]

>>19067557
that's no where close to the same thing

[Anonymous No.19067585]

>>19067581
in what way?
the only difference is the grind settings.
barista has 16, oracle is auto.

[Anonymous No.19067657]

>>19067557
>breville anything

unrepairable chinese made shit that will break one day after the warranty ends.

>>19067542
there is no "cheap" solution to espresso. it's a rabbit hole where you can spend $500-600 on an "entry level" grinder all the way up to $6-7k on a "prosumer" grade grinder. Machines will run you $800+ for entry level single boiler machines to $2-3k for decent heat exchanger and entry level dual boilers (with prices for prosumer and beyond skyrocketing from there). Maybe rather than being fixated on espresso, start by saving for a good grinder. Like $500 range for a decent entry level grinder. And don't buy burnt to hell and stale supermarket beans. Find a couple good local roasteries (many will have an espresso cafe acting as a storefront).

[Anonymous No.19067665]

>>19067585
The grinder is terrible and completely useless, the machine has bad pressure control, and the machine is cheaply made and all the crappy features they put in one system are bound to break.

[Anonymous No.19067733]

>>19067657
You can get into espresso much cheaper with a manual grinder and like a flair, or a machine like the rancilio silvia or gaggia classic if you're willing to go that high. But it's going to be more fiddly (and espresso is already fiddly to begin with), and if you're pinching pennies you probably shouldn't bother with espresso to begin with. You can make good coffee for less.

[Anonymous No.19068104]

>>19067665
ah.
see i didn't know because i'm never in the market for nonsense.
i just pour instant into a bottle of water with some half & half.
shake and drink.

[Anonymous No.19068203]

>>19067542
these all-in-one machines are all trash tier and they are a pain in the ass to maintain. they also like to break a lot. absolutely not worth it considering the low quality coffee that you get out of them.

the built in grinders are not good enough. the machines themselves are always extremely weak and useless for espresso (which is the base for everything)

the most important thing is to get a good standalone coffee grinder, that will cost you about 300-500 bucks but there's no way around it if you want good coffee. ironically the machine itself can be cheaper. even something like a delonghi dedica 685 will be better than the all-in-one breville

[Anonymous No.19069974]

>>19067557
I have a Barista Express, and it's been pretty good so far. Going on 5 years now

[Anonymous No.19071266]

>>19067733
Get a bialetti or Aeropress and whatever you need to steam milk without an espresso machine. You probably just like the milk foam more than the espresso itself

[Anonymous No.19071285]

>>19067542
teleports behind you...
>heh nothing personal kid.

[Anonymous No.19071326]

>>19071285
I'd rather chew raw coffee beans than drink that

[Anonymous No.19072637]

>>19071326
best coffee you will ever have.

[Anonymous No.19072742]

>>19067542
Stovetop coffee makers are dirt cheap and make a pretty damned good cup desu. That they achieve any amount of pressure at all means those grounds get squeezed.

[Anonymous No.19072859]

>>19071266
>bialetti
seconding this, get the six serving

[Anonymous No.19072933]

>>19072742
There's a stovetop espresso maker too. But it's expensive.

[Anonymous No.19072950]

>>19068203
what is the reason for such an expensive coffee grinder outside of, say, just a finer grind?

There's no way a grinder could cost that much without some specific purpose added to something outside of the qualities of the blades/internal mechanics...

[Anonymous No.19072955]

>>19072950
>literal retard

[Anonymous No.19072966]

I just put half a cup of ground coffee onto a pot and I simmer it for an hour
Makes three good cups of ut

[Anonymous No.19073000]

>>19072950
Usually it's consistency.

[Anonymous No.19073003]

>>19072955
bro i'm asking a genuine question, and anyone with half a brain could understand what i'm asking about

it's not like a coffee grinder is a fuckin swiss watch/high-end time piece w/ a huge schematic/parts list. It's not like every grinder has blades made with something like tungsten, nor all connections something like gold-plated connections

Obviously I grasp the concept of a finer grind vs a rough one, but I like to look deeper past the boiler plate of a simple picture

Brainlets & life-experiencelets like you are the reason we're not already living in the space colonization age

[Anonymous No.19073026]

>>19073003
>>19073003
>it's not like a coffee grinder is a fuckin swiss watch

it literally is retard-bro. crushing random shaped objects into a uniform powder is fucking hard. if you want mismatched powder chunks, then sure a $50 piece of shit will work just fine. but if you want extremely uniform chunks, then you will have to pay up.

[Anonymous No.19073045]

>>19073003
>space colonization age
>brags about his space age IQ when he can't even intuit from an engineering standpoint how getting extremely consistent grind could require more than a spinning metal blade

it's lukewarm IQ pseudo intellectuals like you with your baseless, meritless pride is what is actually holding back civilization

[Anonymous No.19073061]

>>19072950
standard recommendations:

>Eureka Mignon Specialita
>G-IOTA DF64

watch reviews on youtube if you want to know why they make sense and why going cheaper than that will be a waste of money because you'll end up buying another better grinder anyway

[Anonymous No.19073094]

>>19067542
No. You can actually make better coffee for less.
Those kinds of machines are expensive because you're paying a premium for the convenience of having it all in one spot. Also in that situation, you're paying a name brand tax.
If you've got the counter space, then getting a separate good grinder and espresso machine will make coffee MUCH better than that Breville.

[Anonymous No.19073099]

>>19067542
James Hoffman did a rundown on several popular automatic espresso machines.
https://youtu.be/iZEM1cC86t8

[Anonymous No.19073104]

>>19068104
You ought to learn to keep your mouth shut when trying to talk about stuff you don't know about.

[Anonymous No.19073107]

>>19072742
Those cap out at less than 2 bars of pressure

[Anonymous No.19073117]

>>19072950
Espresso works by shoving how water very quickly through a concentrated puck of coffee grounds.
The whole process of brewing takes a fraction of the time compared to other brewing methods. That means if you have a grind that's too find, you're going to over extract. If the grind is too coarse, you're going to under extract.
Because of how quickly the brewing process is done, it's a lot more picky in terms of grind tolerance. So you want a grinder that is consistent.
If you take ground coffee from a shitty grinder, then you'll find some very fine coffee, and some very coarse coffee. So your brew will be all fucked up.

[Anonymous No.19073120]

>>19073099
>automatic espresso machines
ignore this. james would never drink slop like that voluntarily. he's doing that review because he knows that some people are beyond lazy and there's a huge market for those machines. the same people don't realize how annoying it is to keep those machines clean/working

[Anonymous No.19073132]

>>19073120
>trust me, James is my best friend

[Anonymous No.19074211]

>>19072742
I prefer french press

[Anonymous No.19074994]

>>19071266
I really liked the espresso, but I never care much for it at fancy coffee ships. I was using medium decaf beans from a good roaster.
>>19067576
This seems daunting but I will look into it. I guess it would be worth the cost savings