/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.19055155]

Are these worth it for the casual home coo/ck/;

[Anonymous No.19055159]

They destroy knives. That said the average domestic "kitchen knife" is disposable anyway.

[Anonymous No.19055163]

>>19055159
What about a €70 Wüsthof?

[Anonymous No.19055164]

>>19055155
They're ok, but they take almost as much skill as stones and do a far worse job. If you don't want to learn how to use stones, get a worksharp. So easy a caveman can do it.

Krusty is not related

[Anonymous No.19055175]

Nah, steel, stone & strop.

[Anonymous No.19055264]

>>19055159
>They destroy knives
How?

[Anonymous No.19055278]

>>19055264
By ruining the edge.

[Anonymous No.19055290]

>>19055278
Makes it sharper for me, maybe you are doing it backwards?

[Anonymous No.19055293]

>>19055290
No, I don't use them because as I said, they destroy knives. But people who don't know what a sharp edge is think they're super.

[Anonymous No.19055296]

>>19055278
You're right, but it's mostly operator error. Instead of gradually lowering the edge into the ceramics, most people just drop it in and yank.

I'm not saying these things are great, but they work OK if used properly.

Picture is not related

[Anonymous No.19055300]

>>19055293
Works for me, sounds like you are talking out your ass since you haven't even tried them. Take your nip rocks folded over 9000 times in the quarry and shove them up your pretentious asshole.

[Anonymous No.19055308]

>>19055264
>>19055290

he >>19055278's right
these bad boys shave the edge and give it a precise angle

even with super cheap knives, you would use a rat tail to straighten the blade before yoou get to work, and only use the sharpener every once in a while.

for expensives knives, they're probably made with a more agressive blade angle and using these little things would reset the blade to a shittier angle.

anyway at homw, i have cheap knives and one of those quick sharpener thing and i'm happy.

[Anonymous No.19055330]

>>19055164
>they take almost as much skill as stones
What? They don't take any fucking skill

[Anonymous No.19055560]

>>19055155
If you don't like knives, sure

[Anonymous No.19055569]

>>19055300
It only "works" for you because you don't know what a sharp knife is.

[Anonymous No.19055818]

>>19055569
I cut chicken and veggies at home, I don't need to part higgs bozon particles. Knife goes through a leg or an onion buttery smooth. Not everyone needs 5 different stones and contraptions laying around.

[Anonymous No.19055860]

>>19055818
>Not everyone needs 5 different stones and contraptions laying around.
But without that, how can>>19055569
effectively gatekeep?

[Anonymous No.19055863]

>>19055155
That looks like some kind of bizzaroworld hair dryer from california fag zone where they wear sketchers and vans.

[Anonymous No.19055896]

>>19055155
yes.
>>19055159
no they don't destroy knives. people use too much pressure and damage the carbide. some people don't like the micro serrated edge it gives knives but it works better with pull cuts than push cuts.

[Anonymous No.19055914]

>>19055818
t. Shitty knife user that messily hacks good food apart.

[Anonymous No.19055915]

>>19055896
They destroy knives, that's why people who actually know how to look after their tools don't use them

[Anonymous No.19055922]

>>19055915
The food tastes exactly the same even if every cube of onion isn't exactly 8mm thick.

[Anonymous No.19055933]

>>19055155
They're better than nothing if the knife is dull.

[Anonymous No.19055937]

>>19055922
LMAOOOOOO! Just smoosh it with a rock lad

[Anonymous No.19055996]

>>19055915
I use them all the time between meals to just straighen up the edge. I also use my shapton set to sharpened every 5 months

[Anonymous No.19056092]

>>19055933
>damaging the knife is better than not damaging it
interesting logic

[Anonymous No.19056101]

>>19056092
I've used the same 20 dollar walmart knife with a sharpener like in the OP for 5 years now. No visible difference, cuts just as good as it did on the first day I bought it. I guess maybe it won't survive to pass onto my grandchildren when I die. Not sure how they will take that loss, I should prepare them ahead of time.

[Anonymous No.19056142]

>>19055155
I use one that one has two slits. Yes, it is very convenient and very effective. It doesn't get the edge autism sharp but it is pretty damn sharp.

[Anonymous No.19056246]

I use one of these but I’m keen to try a whetstone. Is it possible to get a single whetstone which will create a nice sharp edge? Or do I need to get two, one with a coarse roughness and one with a smoother roughness?

[Anonymous No.19056472]

>>19056246
Yeah a shapton 1.5k kuromaku will do it. They are very fast if you use a lot of pressure. They will get you to shaving sharp if your skills are on point. 50ish bucks and it will last you many years.

[Anonymous No.19056507]

>>19055155
i got one of these. i think it's really good but i'm not a knife sperg. guessing someone will call me a retard for using it.

[Anonymous No.19056541]

>>19056507
Just lazy.

[Anonymous No.19056554]

I will never understand you guys... All of my knives are from Town & Country from the late 70s and have NEVER been sharpened and all work great.

[Anonymous No.19056561]

>>19056554
They used to make stuff to last. Good made in the last 20 years is designed to break down so you are forced to fix or replace it.

[Anonymous No.19056583]

>>19056554
Do they still cut paper cleanly, shave? I doubt your claim. I have old forged carbon steel sabatiers that need sharpening. Like all knives do...

[Anonymous No.19056589]

>>19055914
whats wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.19056604]

>>19056583
They can cut my finger when dicing.

I dunno man, if you want to be anal about it... It probably isn't as sharp as you guys who do it every week or month. You guys are going through all this effort doing something you pretty much never should need to do or buying gadgets that make things 5-10% better it just seems... Wasteful and anal.

[Anonymous No.19056616]

>>19056604
Does it say what steel the knives are? Decent steel should need a tune up every 6 months, and depending on steel straightening the edge up with a honing rod every few uses.

[Anonymous No.19056623]

>>19055293
they work fine for me and noticeably sharpen my knives.

[Anonymous No.19056625]

>>19056616
I'll look. They are/we're pretty high end and the knife holder is solid wood and literally built into the wall in the kitchen.

[Anonymous No.19056635]

>>19056583
>Do they still cut paper cleanly, shave?
i don't feed my family shaved paper, but my knives cleanly slice ripe tomatos in one pass.

[Anonymous No.19056638]

>>19056616
It says POW STEEL - FORGE USA

[Anonymous No.19056644]

Maybe prisoners of war forged it in the USA? LOL.

[Anonymous No.19056646]

>>19056623
They "work" for you because your definition of sharp is retarded by the nature of the poor quality tools you use. These devices destroy blades.

[Anonymous No.19056649]

I used to work for a butcher. Used knives as big as small swords all day, every day. We sent all the knives out to be sharpened by a professional service once every few months or so, only used a honing steel in the meantime.

[Anonymous No.19058219]

Test.

[Anonymous No.19058227]

>>19056646
I agree with this. I have used probably a dozen of them in kitchens over the years. If you have a good sharp knife, these things will make them duller, even just using the "honing" slot. They should call it a dullener instead of a sharpener.

[Anonymous No.19058293]

>>19058227
Why are you trying to sharpen a knife that's, by your own standards, already sharp?

[Anonymous No.19058308]

>>19058293
I'm not. But it will make it dull if you try to use the "honing" slot. I'm just saying, take a knife that is acceptably sharp and run it through one of these pull-through sharpeners and it will end up dull. You could use them for testing purposes of other legit knife sharpeners in order to dull factory-sharp knives beforehand.

I'm pretty sure these things are made for cooklet housewives who are afraid of actually sharp knives. That has it's place I guess.

[Anonymous No.19058556]

>>19056472
I’ll give it a Google, cheers mate

[Anonymous No.19058941]

>>19056554
Can you butterfly chicken breast with them? I mean, a peeler made from unhardened tin peels potatoes and vegetables just fine; it all depends on what you are actually cooking.

[Anonymous No.19059111]

You dont need anything better. Stone sharpening is a hobby, not a necessity, just like paying hundreds for a goddamn knife.

[Anonymous No.19059122]

>>19056554
Either you're full of shit or you don't know what an actually sharp knife is like. It's physically impossible for a blade to not dull with use. Especially fucking 50 years of use. So which is it, are you a liar or are you retarded? Those are your choices.

[Anonymous No.19059135]

what about stropping?
with compound they can technically sharpen right??

[Anonymous No.19059138]

>>19058308
>take a knife that is acceptably sharp
Okay and you've already fucked up. You aren't supposed to run an already sharp knife through them.

[Anonymous No.19059156]

>>19055155
just give it to your resident bladesman for service

[Anonymous No.19059162]

>>19059135
What's stropping, is that sharpening with a leather strap?

[Anonymous No.19059170]

>>19059162
yeah on leather with optional compound and you pull the blade away, not cutting into it

[Anonymous No.19059191]

>>19059170
A friend who was in the US Army mentioned that like years ago so just wanted to clear that up in my mind.

[Anonymous No.19059213]

>>19059191
Yeah only people in the army know about strops...... eyeroll.

[Anonymous No.19059312]

Got one of these bad boys, took a bit to figure out the proper angle but once I got it, I got it. Last sharpened new years 2022 and they are just about due to go again. Just regular upkeep with the honer and they kept very well.

[Anonymous No.19059324]

>>19059312
This is cheating.

[Anonymous No.19059395]

>>19059312
Using a stone freehand is faster and easier than any angle guide contraption once you got some skillz.

[Anonymous No.19059397]

>>19059324
>>19059395
>Why would you give yourself a mechanical advantage when you could be autistic, take a lot longer to learn how to do it by hand AND have inconsistent results?
I bet you think cars are cheating when you have a horse

[Anonymous No.19059421]

>>19059324
>>19059395

Seeth while I sharpen my kitchen aid knives to perfection, one handed, half paying attention while watching guga foods on repeat. buh-buh-buh MUHSTONE SKILLS.

[Anonymous No.19059422]

>>19059397
Absolutely defensive and missing the point. I can apply 10x the pressure to my knife on a stone than you can with your thing while maintaining proper angle. Your tool will flex with the pressure I use to move things along quickly.

You're telling me an automatic transmission is better than a manual. Yeah for the terrible lazy driver...

[Anonymous No.19059434]

>>19055937
That's hardcore, when I got an apartment but didn't have any kitchen utentils I did mashed taters with the bottom of a glass coca cola bottle, it worked damn well, better than a potato masher.

[Anonymous No.19059442]

>>19056507
Going through this thread that thing looked like r2d2 from star wars.

[Anonymous No.19060719]

>>19055155
Honestly no idea. but picrelated is worth every penny.

[Anonymous No.19060765]

>>19055155
They take up the least space and are the simplest to use.
>b-b-b-but
Don't care. Keeps my $30 Target knife sharp for several years before replacement. No, I don't care about the $500 knife meme you fell for. Keep it next to your mall goth katana and leave the cooking to the men.

[Anonymous No.19060778]

>>19059422
>I can apply 10x the pressure to my knife on a stone than you can with your thing while maintaining proper angle
you NEED to apply 10x the pressure and maintain the "proper angle"
I just schlick it a few times and I'm good to go.
>You're telling me an automatic transmission is better than a manual.
Yes, no shit. There's a reason it's more popular (much like how cars are more popular than horses).

[Anonymous No.19060782]

>>19060778
>I just schlick it a few times and I'm good to go

Yeah I bet lol

[Anonymous No.19060809]

>>19060778
Stuuuupid defensive honelet. If a blade is extremely dull I can apply significant pressure. Your little shitter lazy boy jig will flex and fuck with the angle. Please please please learn how to read before attempting to defend something that is objectively worse than a stone in many ways.

>>19060719
Powered abrasive without coolant always ruins the temper at the very apex of your blade.

[Anonymous No.19060829]

>>19059138
What's it like to be illiterate?

[Anonymous No.19060892]

>>19060809
No asshole. Band abrasives don't get near hot enough to fuck up the temper. You don't know a goddamn thing about this, do you? If it does get "warm" quenching liquid "aka water" is so fucking easy. Just shut the fuck up. The only thing that will anneal steel is a 3500rmp wheel grinder. Even 1850rpm grinders can be cooled before they fuck up metal.

[Anonymous No.19060905]

I know you stupid pricks don't like reddit, but go to /r/sharpening if you want to learn a single fucking thing.

[Anonymous No.19060918]

>>19060892
You know remarkably little. Quenching liquid. Lmfao.

Too much pressure by hand with low grit sandpaper and no water will damage temper at the very apex.


Why are know nothing lazy ass honelets such defensive know it alls? It's hilarious.

[Anonymous No.19060926]

>>19060892
Go learn something, you schlub. If you have the reading comprehension and brainpower to understand basic graphs. I know for a fact you'll have no clue about the metallurgy discussed in the article. Might do you some good to learn just the tiniest bit about what you're talking about before making an incredible fool of yourself.

https://knifesteelnerds.com/2019/04/08/does-sharpening-with-a-grinder-ruin-your-edge/

[Anonymous No.19060929]

>>19060918
Asshole, I've been using german tool steel for 30 years. I know what 'blues' it. A fucking band sander will not get hot enough to anneal it.

[Anonymous No.19060938]

>>19055922
this is objectively not true. the amount of surface area exposed to air can greatly change flavor and texture.

[Anonymous No.19060942]

>>19060926
>https://knifesteelnerds.com/2019/04/08/does-sharpening-with-a-grinder-ruin-your-edge/

It's not about a "grinder" you dipshit, it's about the temperature it generates. A slow bench grinder is SLOW, a band sander, is SLOW. Jesus Christ, none of you people have a shop do you?

[Anonymous No.19060961]

>>19060929
Okay, bud. You have good enough reaction time to stop the thinnest section of an edge from overheating? No you dont.

>>19060942
Absolutely zero clue as to what you're talking about. The act of abrasion creates a lot of heat. Without coolant you fuck the edge. You don't have the reaction time or touch to stop that. Don't be so incredibly foolish.

[Anonymous No.19060966]

>>19060942
>>19060929
Before opening your pie holes they tested the worksharp better than you ever could. Look! Woah! Who would have thought?

[Anonymous No.19060973]

>>19060961
Ok Cunt, I've only sharpened a luthier knife, gouge, chisel, chefs knife and a goddamn thousand other knives to beyond shaving sharp for 30 years. I'm sure I annealed all of those blades. Fucking grow up and stop being a basement sharpologist.

[Anonymous No.19060983]

they work but the electric ones are better. you don’t have to put any pressure on the knives to get a great edge. been using them in my commercial kitchen for a year now and ill never go back. ignore all the heckin damascus japanese knife fags with their 50 different whetstones in here. shit is autistic as fuck.

[Anonymous No.19060991]

>>19060966
I fucking love you guys. Make sure you use those tensile sharpness devices to test all your shit every time. They make you look like you actually do something with those blades..

[Anonymous No.19060995]

>>19060973
Can't even refute scientific testing. Based retard stuck in his boneheaded ways.

[Anonymous No.19061000]

>>19060966
You know, other than them bending over at minus 58RHC @15 degrees.. You know.. sharp and properly tempered.

[Anonymous No.19061006]

>>19060995
@ what hardness, at what angle and what the fuck are you doing with it? Practical vs. your cunting 'scientific' testing.

[Anonymous No.19061019]

>>19061006
>>19061000
LOL. The test was comparing one variable you goofball.

Practically speaking I use that information when I make knives. I put a whetstone finished edge on them instead of ruining the temper at the apex by using my 2x72 to grind edge bevels. Loooool.

[Anonymous No.19061021]

>>19060983
can you recommend an electric one

[Anonymous No.19061031]

>>19056561
you're a fucking moron, your knives will need to get sharpened at some point no matter when the fuck it was made

[Anonymous No.19061035]

>>19061019
So you're just some asshole that makes instead of uses. I get that. What do you harden to? Have you used Magnacut yet?

[Anonymous No.19061038]

>>19060983
only real advise in this thread. home cooklets can eat a dick

[Anonymous No.19061047]

>>19061019
Yeah I use stones ALL the fucking time to. I'm just pointing out that band sanders don't ruin temper if you don't fuck up the sanding.

[Anonymous No.19061062]

>>19061035
No... I do both. I prefer to use 26c3 for kitchen knives. 63-65hrc depending.

I have messed with magnacut some, but not enough to give you a good opinion on it other than I HATE plate quenched and foil wrapped heat treating. I also HATE finishing high carbide steels. Hand sanding them is torturous.

Here is one of my custom commisions I did for a guy who wanted a lamb butchering set. I explained what a full bolster meant in detail to him and gave me the go ahead.

He didn't have a budget, so we settled on using cpm cruwear for the steel. I had it sent out to peters heat treat even though I have an electric kiln.

That cleaver is quarter inch thick. You could cut bricks all day with it and it would still be sharp lol.

[Anonymous No.19061065]

>>19061047
At the very apex it is impossible to keep them cool enough with powered abrasive.

[Anonymous No.19061070]

26c3 knife I made with a takedown handle. 40+ hours of work.

[Anonymous No.19061082]

>>19061065

You fucking people need to actually use these tools to know. You love to pretend to know what a blade will do but never use them in earnest. Go get a goddamn hobby that requires you to use blades, chisels, gouges, planes.. Then you'll fucking know. As long as you don't blu up the edge, your blade will do the job. And band sanders are THE weakest in damaging the temper vs anything other than stones. If you cunts can work your job using stone only, that's fucking great, other than that, you need to grow the fuck up and let working people sharpen shit they way they need to.

[Anonymous No.19061091]

>>19061070
Nice hamon, deep ricasso, very developed handle. Surprised you put an end on that.

[Anonymous No.19061123]

So you fucking children gave up?

[Anonymous No.19061140]

>>19061062
>That cleaver is quarter inch thick. You could cut bricks all day with it and it would still be sharp lol
LOL indeed. Haa your mummy actually allowed you to touch a blade?

[Anonymous No.19061145]

>>19061062
Those look fucking gorgeous, I just have a hard time with 'other than chinese' cleavers/chinese knives. I don't cleave deer or cows in general, but honest to god, your blades looks SICK.

[Anonymous No.19061184]

>>19060809
Why are you so angry and retarded? My cheap knife goes dull after a couple of months and I sharpen it in 30 seconds. Boom. Done.
You have to use the cope stone and "apply significant pressure while maintaining the proper angle" because you chose to spend your time that way, learning about epic meme knives and pre-industrial sharpening methods.

This is because you're alone and have nothing better to do with your time. Meanwhile, normal people don't obsess over obsolete bullshit and and spend their free time actually cooking and with their families.

[Anonymous No.19061188]

26c3 straight razor I made. MASSIVE PAIN, but a fun project.

>>19061082
You aren't making a real argument. I just showed you evidence that opposes your experience.

>>19061091
The whole handle comes off when you unscrew that nut on the back. The knife feels really good in the hand.

>>19061145
Ty. They were a major pain to polish up to my standard because of the high carbide steel. That cleaver is expressly for butchering lamb and chickens.

[Anonymous No.19061194]

>>19061184
Another dummy misses the point completely and seethes over something he made up in his head. Cool.

[Anonymous No.19061205]

>>19061194
You know everyone can see what you wrote right?
Are you new to this website?

[Anonymous No.19061212]

>>19061205
Seethe more, bud. It's really funny.

[Anonymous No.19061222]

>>19061184
Dude, my mom bought a bunch of Santokus for 3 bucks CDN. I sharpen them every year and end up with knife magic. I recently turned my santoku into a bunka gyotu.

[Anonymous No.19061233]

>>19061194
Buy this, you fucking idiot. https://www.meglioknives.com/productions/p/kiritsuke

That's the only knife in stainless steel that will matter. Otherwise, you don't know shit about steel.

[Anonymous No.19061242]

>>19061222
That's a birdseye maple 2 inch cutting board with a rosewood center.

[Anonymous No.19061260]

>>19061233
Magnacut meme steel with a low grit belt grinder finish. LOL.

All knives get dull. Some are enjoyable to sharpen others aren't. Magnacut is not enjoyable to sharpen albeit easier than others because it has finer carbide structure than some comparable high carbide steels.

Simple as. Pocket knife collector tier. Lmao.

[Anonymous No.19061281]

>>19061260
What a cunt. I KNOW it's shit to sharpen, but who do you know that sharpens their shit all the time?! Get a family member that needs a sharp blade that lasts and that fucking peppered carbide will be wonderful because it LASTS. God you fucking people are such assholes 24/7 here. You don't give a shit about family, because you don't have family.

[Anonymous No.19061291]

>>19061281
You screeched at me to get a shittily made knife out of meme when I have a bar of it in my shop, and I personally prefer carbon steel blades.

Stop jumping to your silly ass little conclusions. It only sounds like you are projecting.

[Anonymous No.19061293]

>>19061260
Do you even think before you type? Jesus Christ. I'm trying to help my friends and family that don't have a goddamn shelf of stones and stropes and you're the asshole that comes along and says.. OH BUT.. why the goddamn fuck do you do that?

[Anonymous No.19061299]

>>19061291
What asshole family member do you trust with carbon steel?

[Anonymous No.19061301]

>>19061291
BTW what notion am I 'projecting'? That's just young nonsense.

[Anonymous No.19061305]

>>19061299
>>19061293
You're acting like a literal maniac. AHHHHH YOU FORGET ABOUT MUH FAMILY. HOW DAAAAARRREEEEE YOIUUUUUUUUUUU!

I gave my mom a shigefusa gyuto made from swedish carbon steel and she keeps it in great condition.

If you knew anything you would know that a well made carbon steel knife has a blade profile that counteracts the lower toughness of the steel.

[Anonymous No.19061308]

>>19061301
NEVER FORGET THE CHILDREN, YOU CHILD. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!

[Anonymous No.19061315]

>>19061260
So what would you buy for a family member that doesn't know the first thing about sharpening?ZDP-189, Maxamet, CPM M4, D2. M390, VG-10 FFS? God.

[Anonymous No.19061318]

>>19061308
So you're just a tard. Good to know.

[Anonymous No.19061319]

sharpening knives is not a personality. sorry lads

[Anonymous No.19061321]

>>19061319
And you have none.

[Anonymous No.19061333]

>>19061305

AEB-L? And 'swedish' steel is the best high carbon for strength. Honestly, I'm fucking tired of talking to you dumb pieces of shit. That's a good metal, but now I don't fucking care if you live or die. Just Go FUCK OFF somewhere I don't need to hear about.

[Anonymous No.19061343]

>>19061333
Absolute and supreme unbridled and unrestrained Z-max 75hrc levels of seethe LMFAO. You are SO SILLY!

26c3 is a swedish carbon steel... Shigefusa does not disclose what steel he uses except thst it is a swedish carbon steel. You are literally seethe blind. It's so goddamn funny. Why don't you get off the internet and tend to that family you screech about so much, seethelord mcboomer.

[Anonymous No.19061353]

None of you fucking people can even talk about steel, can you. It's honestly the most important part of choose a goddamn knife. I know if this all Chef Boyardee shitbox world but ffs.

[Anonymous No.19061358]

>>19061343
You have to be a giant cunt to go over 62HRC. What are you fucking talking about? You want to cut food with GLASS?

[Anonymous No.19061366]

>>19061343
BTW, stop talking like an internet cunt. You sound like a child.

[Anonymous No.19061371]

>>19061343
By that I mean type "seethe" twenty more times, it'll make you sound like a teenager.

[Anonymous No.19061385]

>>19061353
Honestly I think blade profile is actually a lot more important than steel. Steel can be important when you are working in a kitchen or commercial setting where you need a knife to perform for a full shift of cutting.

A great blade profile will significantly increase how sharp a blade feels, how chip resistant it is, and even to an extent how long it will stay sharp relatively speaking.

Super steels really really suck to sharpen, and I find that they quickly go from hair shaving sharp to a point where they are pretty sharp, but not super sharp and just hang out there for what seems like an eternity.

Stainless is nice if you don't want to deal with a rusting blade, but you sacrifice cost and ease of sharpening if you're shooting for comparable stats between carbon and stainless.

>>19061358
Okay, boomer. Take your valium, have your coors light and go to bed. It's far past your bedtime. Don't make me call the nurse in to sedate you, AGAIN.

[Anonymous No.19061388]

>>19061343
Do you not see how much of a child you sound like? Read everything you typed.

[Anonymous No.19061395]

>>19061385
Profile has nothing to do with material quality

[Anonymous No.19061408]

>>19061385
Oh FFS, Make your stupid blade 15 degrees and sharpen it every week. EVERY ASSHOLE KNOW THIS. This is like talking to pudding. How goddamn stupid are you at what 20? And I make my own booze if needed. Jesus Christ I hate talking to young people. I make pure ethanol.

[Anonymous No.19061412]

>>19061395
I'm pointing out why steel choice is not as important as other aspects related to how well a knife functions.

A shittily made magnacut blade will not outperform a 1084 blade that has a superb blade profile in functional tests.

>>19061388
Okay, boomer.

[Anonymous No.19061417]

>>19061408
There's a chance I may have done up a small batch of rum recently bro. Can you relax? What are you trying to prove? That old ass grumpy dudes are easy to trigger and take any sort real disagreement without going batshit crazy?

[Anonymous No.19061418]

>>19061412
Yeah ok, spring steel.. nobody.

[Anonymous No.19061422]

>>19061417
Honestly I don't give a shit, I just like getting pissy with idiots. So.. take that for what it is. I'm watching Air Disasters and drinking my ass off. This place is a giant piece of shit I.. shit in.

[Anonymous No.19061425]

>>19061412
1095 is spring steel, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.19061426]

>>19061422
I can tell you're wasted... Please sir, your ass blastedness is making you neglect your family. You must NEVER FORGET THE FAMILY!

[Anonymous No.19061433]

>>19061426
The fuck are you on about?

[Anonymous No.19061442]

>>19061426
Sorry, I'm listening to how an Embraer shit itself into a mountain. Do you have a point?

[Anonymous No.19061445]

>>19061425
Yeah... My point is specifically meant for the end user experience. I will argue that things like fit and finish, a good blade profile, balance, comfort, and ease of sharpening are significantly more important for the at home cook than anything a super steel can bring to the table. My point is that the way a blade is made is more important than steel type. I've made a 70hrc zmax kitchen knife for myself. I hate it for a variety of reasons...

[Anonymous No.19061456]

>>19061445
Every single word you said, I agree with. I'm just thinking about my aunt who is in Chilliwack. She has no sharpener and I was trying to find a "magic" steel for her so she doesn't suffer a dull blade. I made 3 sharp santokus the last time she came to Ontario and she uses them as "beaters" and has a Misen as well. I want her to enjoy a sharp blade all the time if she can't find someone in Chilliwack, Abbotsford or Vancouver in time. She's as rich as midas, but won't treat herself and I really want her to be happy.

[Anonymous No.19061477]

>>19061456
Cpm cruwear is one of the best all around steels for toughness and edge retention. It is well balanced in almost all aspects aside from corrosion resistance.

Instead of going down to basically nothing for the edge leave some meat on it usually I go to .005", leave it at .01" instead, sharpen it to 17-18 degrees on both sides, and put a microbevel on the edge with a nice high grit stone.

It won't be a laser knife, but it will stand up to a lot of abuse.

[Anonymous No.19061479]

>>19055155
they do the job, they can turn a dull knife into a reasonably sharp knife in no time.
Some knife nerds say that they "destroy" the blade, because they remove much more metal compared to a whetstone. While it's true, it still takes years and years of intensive use to make the slightest difference.
there are better options on the market, but they are either more expensive or more troublesome to use.
So, if you don't care about knives and just want to sharpen your relatively inexpensive piece of metal with no fuss, buy one

[Anonymous No.19061486]

>>19061477
That's the shit right there. Something that'll last and will cut a fucking tomato. That powdered metal is something I've never worked with yet, but sounds amazing. 18 degrees on SS sounds great. TY for your information. Honestly.

[Anonymous No.19061491]

>>19055155
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSv3gS4tV_8
This ikea pull through sharpener seems ideal for the casual home cook.

[Anonymous No.19061503]

For a board that's 95% fast food you guys sure are autistic about sharpening knives you do not have or use.

[Anonymous No.19061504]

>>19061477
Just on the pause. Is magnacut that hard to sharpen? If it is, I'll just abort.

[Anonymous No.19061512]

>>19061503
Most of us have 1.4116 metal, Some Aus-10 etc.

[Anonymous No.19061534]

>>19061503
I only use my sharpener to get rid of the rust.

[Anonymous No.19061542]

>>19061504
It depends what you're used to. All high carbide steels are sucky to sharpen compared to simpler carbon steels.

If you use a diamond plate to get a burr and then move up to a 1.5k it shouldn't be terrible. I heard it is comparable to s30v, I think.

I made a zmax skiving knife that took me 4 hours to sharpen initially using diamond and conventional stones.

[Anonymous No.19061582]

>>19060991
you're retarded lol

[Anonymous No.19061872]

>>19061542
Oh god, that sounds like a misery. Thanks for the heads up.

[Anonymous No.19062068]

>>19061534
I use bar keepers friend for that

[Anonymous No.19062491]

>>19055155
No. They wreck your blades and they don't even sharpen them that well. Get a whetstone and a leather strop, and learn how to sharpen a blade correctly instead of wasting your money on some quick and dirty teleshopping gimmick. A properly sharpened knife makes cooking so much more enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.19062498]

>>19055296
My mom used to live in Peculiar, MO.

[Anonymous No.19062637]

>>19060829
Dunno, what's it like not knowing how to use basic tools?

[Anonymous No.19062650]

>>19062637
Couldn't tell ya. Maybe learn to read before popping off at the mouth first ya fucking retard?

[Anonymous No.19062683]

>>19055155
id rather use a mug

[Anonymous No.19062702]

>>19055330
neither do stones

[Anonymous No.19062703]

>>19055155
they'll make your knife passably sharp, but also remove so much material that a smaller knife becomes barely useable in a short amount of time
i wore a 6" global knife down to the point where it needs the blade to be thinned down significantly in the span of 3 years(in a commercial kitchen where no one else knew better).

[Anonymous No.19062920]

>>19055293
>Knife is getting a bit dull
>8 pulls through each groove
>few quick strops on my shirt to remove the filings
>cuts through tomato with ease
>blade is still clean and intact
???

The only time I can see these working poorly is with knives that are already dead like my parents. they have never been steeled and are cleaned in the dish washer and the edge is broken and chipped like no tomorrow. The hard cutting part of the sharpener would catch and destroy what is left of the edge.

[Anonymous No.19062927]

>>19062703
They will RUIN you fucking blade, stop recommending this ffs. STOP IT. JFC. STOP.

[Anonymous No.19062931]

>>19062683
Underrated post. Use the ceramic bottom of a cup before this fucking abomination.

[Anonymous No.19062938]

>>19062927
I just had a really good look at my Furi set that I've been sharpening with mine for the last 10 years and...
The edge is perfectly straight and sharp enough for me to use for a few weeks before needing a few pulls. Holy fuck mate you are a massive retard.

[Anonymous No.19062939]

>>19061062
>>19061070
Damn those are nice knives

[Anonymous No.19062940]

>>19059312
There's also this asshole. I want it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZAyeWn6t88

[Anonymous No.19062944]

>>19062938
Just trying to save you a knife. If they're worthless to you, they're worthless to me. Go absolutely fucking nuts. Drag it behind your car. I could utterly care less.

[Anonymous No.19062946]

>>19062938
WHy do you cunts get so upset with people trying to help you?

[Anonymous No.19062957]

>>19062938
Get the fucking message, you stupid prick?

[Anonymous No.19063015]

>>19062957
lol at that long gouge my nigger its not the sharpener its the retard using it. Nice to see you saying a sharpener is trash when you use such a cheap knife, my god that factory chamfer

[Anonymous No.19063036]

>>19063015
Dipshit, I got that off of google. That is the DEFACTO setting for pull through pieces of shit sharpeners. Even your worthless ass could do better with a 1000x king stone. Idiot.

[Anonymous No.19063046]

>>19063036
You do understand that the process of sharpening from any device is material removal, right?

[Anonymous No.19063050]

>>19059135
stropping (especial power stropping) is the hack that basically renders 1000$ sharpening gear obsolete, so it makes autists seth.
Any knife, a felt disc and some super finisher compound, finest and most polished edge possible

[Anonymous No.19063057]

>>19063046
Go fuck off with your reductionist retardedness. You just embarrassed me on your behalf. Can you even not want to kill yourself when you read what you just typed?

[Anonymous No.19063058]

>>19059312
I want something like this or a pull-through. I got a stone but it's a pain to use right

[Anonymous No.19063064]

>>19063050
Well, Seth. Stopping only takes off the burr. When that burr becomes so dull it can't be stropped enough, you need a fucking ridged stone to tear off material. So, go Seth on that one for a while.

[Anonymous No.19063065]

>>19063058
Grow some wrists and mental control of them.

[Anonymous No.19063091]

So regardless, I refer you people to..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZAyeWn6t88

That's the only way you wristless morons will sharpen a knife properly other than worksharp shit. Pay 200 bucks for something you should do for 50.. Figure it out.

[Anonymous No.19063261]

are steels a meme? I got one for $25 and it feels pointless

what test should I do to prove it does something?

[Anonymous No.19063271]

>>19063058
Was 40$ online somewhere and I got the better stones separately for 60$

[Anonymous No.19063423]

>>19063261
Actual steel steels suck. Ceramic steels are garbage but less so. Get a strop with green compound if you're too lazy to sharpen on a stone.

[Anonymous No.19063549]

>>19055155
My parents use these on their knives and they get them sharp for like.. 3 cook sessions. They seem to be eating the blades, but thats okay, cause they're all crap knives. Been fun watching them get thinner and thinner and thinner over the years. What was once likely a chefs knife is an inch thick banana now. Lol. Better than them using dangerous dull knives tho.

[OP No.19063570]

This thread went from 0 to 100 real fucking fast, with infighting and all the good bits.
My takeaway from is this:
these things are only good for inexpensive knives and take a whole lot of material away, bit wil make it acceptable for a few uses, making it a "regular" tool before preps

higher grade knife owners should git gud with other appliances

[Anonymous No.19063576]

>>19063549
>>19063570
Ha, this supports my observances. Woo. Now wasn't that simple?

[Anonymous No.19063934]

>>19063064
lmao you are clueless with your internet facts.
a strop abrades steel just like a stone does
>When that burr becomes so dull
lol wtf are you even trying to say here.

[Anonymous No.19064017]

>>19063934
Correct. You can even strop using the skin on your hand and it will make a difference.

[Anonymous No.19064022]

>>19055818
>I cut chicken and veggies at home, I don't need to part higgs bozon particles.
get gottem
>>19055569
seething

[Anonymous No.19064034]

>>19055155
Little bits of metal!

[Anonymous No.19064065]

>>19063934
Asshole, I sharpen shit every single day, razor sharp, so do your worst. Because it will be your worst. I'll post my gear if needs be.

[Anonymous No.19064089]

>>19064017
It will never take the burr off at 20k with green compound you stupid stupid stupid fuck. That is the same as polishing.

[Anonymous No.19064092]

>>19064017
you really don't understand martensite or astensite metal at all, do you?

[Anonymous No.19064142]

>>19064089
Imagine sharpening a kitchen knife to 20k grit and calling someone else stupid.

>>19064092
Please spell correctly before thinking you know more than me, you dumdum. Are you the drunk boomer, or another dummy?

[Anonymous No.19064160]

>>19064142
IMAGINE NOT UNDERSTANDING SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS AN ISOTHERMAL TRANSFORMATION DIAGRAM! FUCKING PATHETIC!

[Anonymous No.19064162]

>>19064065
all woodcarvers in the world, me included, sharpen their knife on a pasted felt disk, a power strop so to say. this process works for years without ever touching a stone.
>you need a fucking ridged stone to tear off material
explain how sandpaper can even work you mong

[Anonymous No.19064169]

>>19064160
>>19064092
Meant for your goofy ass.

[Anonymous No.19064181]

>>19064089
>20k with green compound
you are indeed clueless lol
green compound is not chrome oxide pigment, its mystery grit ~3k corundum mixed with green wax.
Super finishing paste is where its at, contrary to the chink green bars this stuff is grated and actually sharp

[Anonymous No.19064183]

>>19061491
Same principle as the friskas,
for those not able to eyeball the angle on a stone and not wanting the hassle of the lansky a good system.
Only drawback they can be a bit odd on the very tip of the blade.
Spyderco also makes a decent fool-proof sharpener.

My recommendations would be.
Ikea/Friskas for those not knowing anything about sharpening
Spyderco if you want to sharpen serrated stiff and pocket-knifes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vthDn1Udn70
Diamond wet-stone for quickly sharpening kitchen-knifes. (e.g. Shapal 325/1200)

[Anonymous No.19064187]

>>19064162
Post something you have made with your chisels, boomer.

[Anonymous No.19064300]

[Anonymous No.19064550]

>>19064187
Like this asshole? That's a Strad inspired violin.

[Anonymous No.19064566]

>>19064187
Oh, and we don't use 'chisels', we use gouges and finger planes, in case you give one fucking shit about making instruments. Fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.19064587]

>>19064566
>>19064550
Alcoholic boomer lies while seething. Classic.

[Anonymous No.19064617]

>>19064566
You know it's funny you mention gouges and finger planes. I gouged ye mum last night, while finger planing her asshole. It was an absolutely terrific Friday night. She was screaming like a stuck piggie when I shoved my 20k grit stropped and felt wheel polished 5 inch chisel up her ass sideways. You could not even imagine the noises she was making. My god what a woman.

[Anonymous No.19064630]

>>19064617
Classy.

[Anonymous No.19064631]

>>19064630
Your mother was classy until I pulled out my 12 inch gouge and started rubbing it on her whetstone.

[Anonymous No.19064634]

>>19064587
Is that why I'm rich? Oh that's right, you 20 somethings have no hope in life. Nevermind. I'll just go to bed drunk, happy and rich.

[Anonymous No.19064642]

>>19064631
You'll learn why being a child isn't something anyone wants to hear, when you're NOT A FUCKING CHILD. Picture a child shitting himself in front of you, is that cool?

[Anonymous No.19064647]

>>19064634
LOL. The drunken boomer has become delusional. Keep going old man! it's hilarious.

[Anonymous No.19064650]

>>19064642
Better than seeing you make "the face" and then smelling the fat shit you drop in your depends after yet another night of binge drinking.

[Anonymous No.19064667]

>>19064650
You poor creature. Cant imagine the life you have to live and then reach my age. You're so fucked it isn't a joke. You're fucked.

[Anonymous No.19064678]

>>19064667
Lmfao. Go have another drink boomer. You screech at people anonymously online to feel validation as an OLD SHITTY DIAPER "MAN". Imagine caring even the slightest bit about what an enraged alcoholic thinks.

Proven wrong.
Screeches about family.
Proven wrong.
Screeches about his money
Btfo completely.
Screeches and lies about his work.
Btfo
Screeches about his opinion of other people when has demonstrated he is the biggest shitter in the entire thread.

LMAO

LMAO KEEP IT UP OLD DUDE. YOU'RE A JOKE.

[Anonymous No.19064681]

>>19064183
>not wanting the hassle of the lansky

hassle. LOL.

[Anonymous No.19064684]

>>19064022
>seething
Seething because you don't know what "sharp" means? Why even?

[Anonymous No.19064722]

>>19064678
you ok?

[Anonymous No.19064725]

>>19064678
sorry, you're having a hissy fit, I just wonder if you're PTSDing or what?

[Anonymous No.19064798]

>>19064678
Did you just pass out or what?

[Anonymous No.19064894]

>>19055155
get a sharpening stone, faget

[Anonymous No.19064903]

>>19055293
i dont think you know anything about blades
(i studied the blade)

[Anonymous No.19064919]

>>19064798
Sorry. Your mother was over to have a romp on my 3 mil farm. I have large and obscene farming implements I used to anally devastate her. It was fantastic fun.

[Anonymous No.19064926]

>>19055155
>Not using gramps ol stone that's cracked at the side for when he used it to fight a nigger

[Anonymous No.19064929]

>>19064919
damn, farmville sounds fun now

[Anonymous No.19064948]

>>19062702
you have no stones

[Anonymous No.19064951]

>>19064929
It is a lot of fun. All I have to do is txt the boomers mother the now and she stops everything she is doing and comes over to my house prelubricated and ready to go. Unless I explicitly tell her no lube. I have a set of larger and larger traffic cones I use to gape her. No lube with those. Makes things more interesting.

[Anonymous No.19064957]

>>19064929
She smuggled this one back from her trip to china. I'm sure you can guess exactly how. ;)

[Anonymous No.19066381]

>>19064951
kek, you truly are an autistic sperg