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If France is the culinary capital of the world then why does nobody eat French food

>> No.18986534

>>18986531
It's expensive. Next question

>> No.18986540

>>18986531
Who wants to eat snails and frog legs?

>> No.18986544

>France is the culinary capital of the world
Julia Child’s skellington hands wrote this post

>> No.18986546
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>>18986531
People eat french fries all the time though

>> No.18986632

It was cool in the sixties.

>> No.18986806
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French food in the year 2023

>> No.18986819

Wym i eat french fries every day

>> No.18986826

>>18986540
/thread

>> No.18986833

because
>Franco-Americans are less visible than other similarly sized ethnic groups and are relatively uncommon when compared to the size of France's population, or to the numbers of German, Italian, or English Americans. This is partly due to the tendency of Franco-American groups to identify more closely with North American regional identities such as French Canadian, Acadian, Brayon, Louisiana French (Cajun, Creole) than as a coherent group, but also because emigration from France during the 19th century was low compared to the rest of Europe. Consequently, there is less of a unified French American identity as with other European American ethnic groups, and French descent is highly concentrated in Louisiana and New England.

and french food takes time and skill to master unlike meme cuisines. I wish I were french canadian...

>> No.18986880

>>18986531
>France Culinary Capital
Because of a concerted effort by France to style itself as that in the 19th century. They saw how the Germans managed to convince everyone that almost all the best composers were German by repeatedly claiming it without evidence, and did the same thing for their culinary tradition. The French repeated it over and over, people believed it, went to France, and then over time it became real because all the prominent chefs were trained in France because they had heard that France was the culinary capital of the world. Meanwhile Italian food was always better, and the Chinese mog France in variety and preparation techniques(they were just all dirt poor starving peasants, so they ate literally everything that wouldn't make them ill).

>Nobody eats French food
Because it codes as premium, so only expensive restaurants that most people won't go to serve 'French Cuisine'.

Outside of fine dining, most coffee shops and cafes offer a mix of Italian, French, and Western baked goods. Biscotti next to Croissants next to Banana Bread. You go into a Starbucks and one of the most iconic French baked goods is staring you in the face.

Furthermore, bakeries always have baguettes, French bread, and Brioche. Pastry shops are generally French as well, though throughout the Midwest/Western Canada Northern European varieties are also common.

On top of that, French Onion Soup and Bisque are very common offerings at diners and chain restaurants.

Even in the home, two popular treatments of eggs are French in nature, with the Quiche and Omelette being two of the most common ways to make egg dishes in Western cuisine. Not to mention crepes are everywhere at breakfast places.

On top of that, every cook trained in culinary school is applying french techniques and french orthodoxy to their cooking thereafter. Why do you call thinly sliced peppers a julienne?

>> No.18986899

>>18986806
Looks like you posted German or Swedish.

>> No.18986945

>>18986833
>>18986880
quite informative, thank you

>> No.18986973
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18986973

Moules frites is pretty good

>> No.18986974

>>18986531
french cuisine ruled until like the early 90s, then italian restaurants took over. at least in America

>> No.18986978
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No one else has the balls

>> No.18986984
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>> No.18987002
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Because this nigga codified modern cuisine. Doesn't mean French cuisine is the best in the world, but it has influenced every kitchen on earth.

>> No.18987038

>>18986973
Not French.

>>18986880
Nonsense. German composers were promoted by Deutsche Grammophon. We're talking 1920s and beyond. Where do you think people listened to Händel or Bach? It were French chefs who went to cook in palaces abroad. Nobody had to come to France.

French food isn't premium at all, most of the dishes are cheap and easy to make. The best pastry is Jewish/taught by Jewish people, which is why you find excellent pastry in Antwerp, Berlin, Venice as well as Vienna. It's not a French thing.

Bisque is properly expensive and can't be found in chain restaurants at all, everybody around the world makes omelettes, just as everyone grills meat over charcoal and Scotch eggs can be found as original dishes in Belgium as well as remote parts of India.

>> No.18987071

You guys have fought and kicked around the ground for centuries of course all your cuisine is inter connected. You discovered the foods you like and replicated them. Anyone from Europe saying this is our "Authentic" dish is funny

>> No.18987141

>>18986978
you vill live in ze pod
you vill eat ze corn boiled in fat

>> No.18987211

I spent a few years studying in France and most French people don't eat what you think of as "French food". French restaurants are basically the equivalent of fine dining in the West, except that they haven't really done much to innovate in the last century, even though the techniques are ubiquitous around the world.

>> No.18987319

The French militarized cooking with the brigade system. That's pretty rad.

>> No.18987353

>>18986531
What's considered french food in the US? Do you have restaurant serving Cassoulet, truffade, potee, andouillette, etc? I feel that's not the stuff foreigner means when talking about french food.

>> No.18987361

>>18986540
Snails are great. Recently I found garlic and herb butter snails in Lidl, they were delicious.

>> No.18987400

>>18987038
>The best pastry is Jewish/taught by Jewish people,
no

>> No.18987450

>>18986531
Food tastes better there for some reason. I ate a salmon sandwich and it was impossibly good

>> No.18987456

>>18986531
Frog virgin bait detected

>> No.18987474

>>18986531
more meat capital than culinary

>> No.18987581

>>18987456
Wasn't bait and I don't post frogs

>> No.18987588

>>18986806
algerian food kek

>> No.18987591 [DELETED] 

>>18987038
>best pastry
>jewish
kill the kikes and all that fun stuff aside, this just doesn't feel right. maybe there's more out there to try

>> No.18987597

>>18986546
>>18986819
don't you mean freedom fries?

>> No.18987604

>>18986531
french cuisine is just butter and baguette

>> No.18987646

>>18986531
That meme started over a century and a half ago. The thing is you eat French food all the time, it's just so ingrained in everything you don't even notice it.
Same deal as "whites have no culture".

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>>18987597
My favorite part of the remove Fr*nchy movement in the U.S. is that they're strating to call what used to be called "haute cuisine" in the past "steakhouses".

>> No.18988071

>>18986531
You literally eat French food every day
The French made the rules for eating, the English tweaked them a bit
Either way when you use a fork you're eating french
You can't even discuss cuisine without using French
French is the language of food

>> No.18988130

>>18988071
What are some everyday foods that I didn't know are French?

>> No.18988167 [DELETED] 

>>18988130
semen

>> No.18988262

>>18988130
Salad, saute, bechamel, bisque, sous vide, roux, charcuterie, bouquet garnie, bouillon, hollandaise, veloute, sauce tomat, mise, mirepoix, beurre manie, trinity, julienne, chinois, chiffonade, au jus, hors d'oevres, au gratin, fondue, fines herbes, fricassee, en croute, entree

FFS all of the words to describe food are in French

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>>18986531
I eat french toast for breakfast, french fries for lunch, and eat french bread for dinner. I always have french dressing ready as a condiment and have french vanilla ice cream for desserts. When I go out to eat, it's always soup d'jour for me after ordering a side of Hors d'Oeuvres. What do you mean nobody eats french food? Every day you see people drinking Cafe au late at the Cafe. French influence is inescapable. The Avant-garde liberal elite constantly complain about the Bourgeois as larpers run around in Camouflage. Your basic manners are a facade of french etiquette and when you feel sad you complain about morale. You stay the night in Hotels and dream of driving Limousines. Even the very acts of eating well are related to Gourmet and Gourmands. You can't escape Coup d’etat of cultural domination. Even when three for free goes for his daily mcchicken, he never forgets to bring home a Souvenir of mcchicken sauce. There is no escape from france's culinary prestige. The Coup de grace of this whole shebang is that your children beg you for Patisseries, and like a Marionette with its strings cut, you fall down in despair and realize that even if you hide in your Garage, your mommygf is making Fricassee for dinner tonight.

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>>18986531
Because most meals take more than 10 minutes to make.

>> No.18989040

>>18986531
Brown people food scares me.

>> No.18989334

>>18987319
It's the other way round. French cooking was created from of military mess halls and cocky retards trying to 1UP each other all over Europe. Things only changed when the women of Lyon took over. Escoffier was a dud. As in: the guy didn't even know the proper names of sauces. Just like that French cook on American tv. Forgot his name.

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The stuff you think of as “normal” dinner fare, like a pork chop with orange fennel sauce, green beans and mashed potatoes… that IS French food.

The steak arrangement in pic rel is traditional French cuisine.

It’s so popular and ubiquitous that people don’t view it as French food, they just think of it as food.

>> No.18989385

>>18989376
Minus the chimichurri sauce obviously, but that’s just personal preference. And if you went back far enough, you’d probably find it has French origins.

>> No.18990094

>>18988504
i made some beef french stew, took like 3 hours but it was so good.

>> No.18990314

>>18987353
Yep. you can get that all here, lot's of French fled during ww2 and headed here like most Europeans

>> No.18990380

>>18990314
Bullshit, prove it. I won't even count andouillette, since no way that's ever served to americans.

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>>18986531
I like their cheeses

>> No.18990449

>>18989334
Wrong and gay, Jamal

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>>18990380
New Orleans is French and Creole heritage lot's of French food there...
Sausage smells like piss btw

>> No.18991036 [DELETED] 

Jews decided that France needed to be destroyed and flooded with non-whites as a test to see if it would destroy the west. It worked and French culture went from the peak of the west to nothingland in 40 years

>> No.18991044
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>>18986531
Chicken Cordon Bleu is god tier

>> No.18991051

>>18990402
>you will never work in the cheese cave

;__;

>> No.18991318

>>18988339
LoL! Upvoted.

>> No.18991360

>>18986540
*snail legs and frogs

>> No.18991362

>>18986531
tacos français tho (once in a long while).

>> No.18991384

>>18989385
>French origins
They're Basque at best and that is REACHING

>> No.18991457

>>18987822

Nobody knows what the fuck "haute cuisine" means. A steakhouse explains things perfectly. You go there to eat steak. What is the house specialty? It's a goddamn steak. Do you want to order a salad? We serve steak here, sir.

>> No.18991461

>>18988262

>chinois
My dude, that is the French word for Chinese. Are you trying to tell me that all of Chinese cuisine is actually French?

>> No.18991527

>>18986984
why is that salt so massive? and why so much there of it?

>> No.18991710

>>18988339
Thank you, sending this to the grandkids. Such fun!
- Marilyn

>> No.18991778

cassouletbros, anyone tried black eyed peas?

>> No.18991782

>>18990094
>took like 3 hours
no it didnt. most french stews take like 1 hour work max. You just have to be a white man able to plan for longer cooking times. I would say most of them are much less work than a hamburger or pizza

>> No.18991791

>>18988262
french didnt invent salad thats fucking retarded.

>> No.18991830

>>18986531
Literally everyone eats French food. French cuisine and techniques were the basis for every other euro country and beyond. While France was making delicious food and teaching chefs how to cook properly, the rest of the world was eating garbage

>> No.18991843

>>18991830
>were the basis for every other euro country
ok lets go through them how was french cooking basis of:
>pizza
>ghoulash
>bortsch
>welsh rabbit
>schnitzel
>vepro knedlo zelo
>bryndzove hasulky
>surstromming
>christmas plum pudding
>haggis
>bigos
>shopska salad
>stamppot
>waterzooi

>> No.18991846

>>18991843
Those aren't food

>> No.18991849

>>18991846
they are natonal dishes of half of europe. You said french cooking is basis for all of those so show me nigger

>> No.18991854

>>18991849
Like I said before, they're garbage. Actual, literal garbage in some cases.

>> No.18991855

>>18991854
pizza too?

>> No.18991856

>>18991855
Pizza is an American creation, retard

>> No.18991869

>>18991856
So? and you dont even like schnitzel?

>> No.18991873

>>18986531
>nobody eat French food
The best restaurant in my home town is French.

>> No.18991874

>>18991869
It's fucking breaded meat, and the concept of breading was invented by the French

>> No.18991877

>>18991874
no it wasnt, but you called it garbage anyway

>> No.18991880
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>>18991856
>Pizza is an American creation, retard
Everybody SAYS that, but they're (mostly) wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza
>Pizza is a dish of Italian origin consisting of a usually round, flat base of leavened wheat-based dough topped with tomatoes, cheese, and often various other ingredients

>> No.18991883

>>18991877
Out of all the breaded meat dishes (Milanesa, katsu, etc.), schnitzel is the worst because germans have shit for taste. And yes, the French did invent breaded meat. Cope

>> No.18991886

>>18991880
p.s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza
>The term pizza was first recorded in the 10th century in a Latin manuscript from the Southern Italian town of Gaeta in Lazio, on the border with Campania.

>> No.18991892

>>18991886
>wikipedia

>> No.18991896

>>18991883
>germans have shit for taste.
Sounds more like you have shit for taste.
Schnitzel is tenderized, breaded meat. How isn't that tasty?
I make that shit myself at home. Don't know or care who invented it, it's just good eating.

>> No.18991900

>>18991883
no they didnt. what is your proof of that? schnitzel came from italy by replacing parmigiano with bread crumbs.
desu. you seem to be strangely angry over the topic

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>>18991892
Wikipedia > your ass, as sources go.

>> No.18992029

>>18988339
so if this is a copypasta then someone before must have asked that exact question?
and then it took 35 replies before someone posts this thing.
I mean what is it with this board.

>> No.18992167

>>18991873
I just don't really see French restaurants. Of course there's French "bistros" or cafes or whatever here and there, that can be said for dozens of different countries' cuisines. I'm surprised there's no big chain restaurants, at least here in America

>> No.18992200

>>18992167
I live in a hick town with a population just under 30k. We've got a wonderful restaurant row, with many styles of cuisine. We have two German restaurants, 3-4 Italian, one Spanish, at least two Japanese, etc. Only one French place, but it's the best restaurant in town. Also, no fucking Indian food. Life is good.

>> No.18992223

>>18992200
hick towns tend to have great food scene

>> No.18992236

>>18986531
it isn't. french pr team just jerks off their own stuff.

>> No.18992393

>>18986531
>France is the culinary capital of the world
You couldn't pay me to eat in France. Yuk.

>> No.18992552

>>18986540
People who don't eat like children.

>> No.18993148

>>18991843
>pizza
yeast cultivation and baking
>ghoulash
old gulyás was just pork and peppers soup, post french influence hungarians started searing meat for more intense flavour, using chicken broth for the base, more herbs, thickening techniques and much more
>borsht
chicken broth is the base of barszcz when before it was just vegetable water with fermented beetroot juice nowhere near as spicy and refined
>welsh rabbit
cheese
>schnitzel
nothing really changed maybe potatoes and bread crumbs got better
>vepřo knedlo zelo
better roasting, better knedlo
>bryndzové halušky
nothing changed, simple and tasty
>surstromming
>>nordic cuisine
>christmas plum pudding
candized fruits, unorthodox method of baking
>haggis
french made every blood puddings taste better with spices and onions
>bigos
better spices, better vegs, meat searing
>shopska salad
this is just raw vegetables with white cheese
>stamppot
french would never do this to their puree
>waterzooi
the technique of thickening the waterzooi is french

>> No.18993182

>>18987002
>Because this nigga codified modern cuisine.
Fun fact, he used to be a POG in early life.

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>mmm french food! bone apple tea!

>> No.18994160

>>18986806
ok i like this kind of food but im racist
what am i

>> No.18995246

>>18994160
a Serb

>> No.18995524

>>18986531
buddy, the whole world eats french fries, they are quite famous

>> No.18995538

>>18993148
nice effort. most of it is retarded and not worth adressing. so i will just insult you instead. faggot

>> No.18996490

>>18995538
I accept your concession

>> No.18996543

>>18991896
Schnitzel is Italian.

>> No.18996548

>>18991886
>>18991892
>>18991902
Pizza is a dish of Greek origin. From the word pitta, meaning bread.

>> No.18996583

>>18988262
Bouillon is Belgian, named after the town of Bouillon
Hollandaise is from Holland.
Allemande is from Germany
Salad is Latin, it means salted.
Tomato sauce is Southern Italian. The French kept tomato plants for decoration purposes only, as they (rightly) believed they were poisonous.
Trinity and au jus are Cajun, they don't exist in French. Neither does au gratin.

>> No.18996604

>>18986531
You eat french food derivatives all the time, you just don't know it.
>What do you do when you're making a sauce?
You make a roux. Where does that come from?
France.
>What do you do when you're baking bread?
You proof it. This came out of France and spread across England when the Normans invaded and brought their new culinary techniques. This also ignores all of the baking techniques that also come from France.
Etc etc. France is the culinary capital of the world simply because everything in the kitchen has been touched by Frenchies and improved.

>> No.18996609

>>18986531
every modern cooking is french cuisine, french schools created the basics of organized and methodical cooking

>> No.18996610

>>18996583
>The French kept tomato plants for decoration purposes only, as they (rightly) believed they were poisonous.
We don't eat off of pewter plates anymore senpai, they're not poisonous.

>> No.18996927

>>18986531
french food is either basic things that everybody does already, or gross snob shit like snails
it has more variations on basic peasant cooking than some other places, but no real characteristic distinct taste or reason to eat it over your own local food

>> No.18996941

>>18986880
>On top of that, every cook trained in culinary school is applying french techniques and french orthodoxy to their cooking thereafter. Why do you call thinly sliced peppers a julienne?
only the terminology is french, because the incessant shilling they did historically, in reality, there is nothing uniquely french about frying eggs or cutting peppers for anyone but professional chefs

>> No.18996954

>>18991830
you mean the french eat the same basic food as everyone else in europe, but pretentious fags use the french words for generic foods and techniques that pretty much everyone was independently using already

>> No.18998227

>>18986880
>the Chinese mog France
>msg
>herbs de provence
>chopsticks
>mise en place
>organ meat sloppa
>coque du vin
Furthermore, shut the fuck up.