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I am an American. Tonight I would like to attempt to make a shepherds pie. I need the best recipes and advice from any british wankers present.

>> No.18847484

Just do chef john's recipe. He never lets you down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsrTU3CJn2c

>> No.18847485

>>18847453
Did you order your official pie makers loicense 6 months in advance? Can't make a proppa English pie without the correct documents lad.

>> No.18847602

>>18847453
Why would you ask a bong for a shepherds pie recipe? You'll get better advise 100% of the time from an American source.

>> No.18847607

Lamb, peas, corn, mashed potatoes, sharp cheddar on top. That's it, add pepper if you want.

>> No.18847691

>>18847484
>peas in the filling
They should be on the side, Chef John is retarded in this case.
>>18847607
>corn
Retard.
>sharp cheddar on top.
Double retard. If you absolutely want cheese you should mix it with the potatoes, not put it on top.

>> No.18847712

This recipe seems good for basis: https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/no-fuss-shepherds-pie
But add some laurel and thyme, and celery if you want. Splash of wine and some garlic doesn't hurt but isn't strictly authentic.

>> No.18847716

>>18847453
That's a cottage pie, you stupid moron. Holy fuck, I hate Americans so much.

>> No.18847717

>>18847453
Just make sure to use lamb and not beef

>> No.18847722

>>18847453
>replace peas with green beans
>throw cheddar cheese on top and crisp

Wa La, immediately superior to any authentic one.

>> No.18847730

Fucking morons I'm using beef.

>> No.18847734

>>18847453
Sheperds pie is made with Lamb, American Lamb is pants, make a cottage pie instead, same thing but with beef mince instead of lamb.

NO sweetcorn, at a a push some peas and finely diced carrot. Don't forget shed loads of Black Pepper.

>> No.18847767

>>18847722
Cheese on shepherd's pie is retarded.

>> No.18847776

>>18847767
Clearly someone has never done it

>> No.18847779
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>>18847691
Hey man, if you don't want a pie don't make shepards pie. You want it all separated just call it a dish and move on.

>> No.18847799

>>18847776
Clearly someone has terrible taste
>>18847779
>You want it all separated just call it a dish and move on.
Try reading my post again, very slowly this time, and if you think that's what it said, then you have terrible reading comprehension.

>> No.18847806

>>18847453
Everytime I make this I have to douse it in tobacco or sriracha to enjoy it. What am I doing wrong?

>> No.18847832

>>18847734
>at a a push some peas and finely diced carrot. Don't forget shed loads of Black Pepper.
what language is this

>> No.18847836

does shepard's pie freeze well?

>> No.18847838

>>18847806
Smoking, probably.

>> No.18847900

>>18847838
tobasco!!!

>> No.18848369

>>18847484
>Irish Shepherd's Pie
Why Irish? The dish itself is British and has nothing to do with Ireland. Seems like he just put the word "Irish" in the name to trick mutts into making it.

>> No.18848381

>>18847836
I think so yeah

>> No.18848424

>>18848369
Because British food = bad, even though Irish and English cuisine are mostly indistinguishable
>mutt mutt mutt mutt burger mutt
Rent free

>> No.18848454

>>18848424
Yeah, because he's stealing a British dish and pashing it off as Irish, so I'll call him a fucking mutt if I want.

>> No.18848471

>>18848454
Ireland is British

>> No.18848537

>>18848369
shepards pie supposedly originated in ireland although theres a lot of debate (obviously) as to whether this is true or not.

the chef john way is okish for a basic start. the way i do it is:
>brown lamb mince
>add finely chopped onions and carrot with some beef dripping (usually lamb mince is quite lean, but if yours gives off a lot of fat, skip this) and cook until slightly softened
>add garlic
>add red wine + worcestershire (something suited to lamb, usually i like wines with plum notes for this)
>once wine has cooked off the alchohol a bit, add some gravy
>lamb back in
>add bouquet garni of your choice as wine reduces a little
you can thicken with a roux or flour if you like but usually i find as long as you don't absolutely drown the lamb it comes to a nice consistency after baking. at work we have a constantly rolling supply of gravy, but guessing you don't have that in your kitchen so you can probably skip that or make an impromptu one with any leftover meat juices and bits from other dishes. i wont detail how to make mash cause i assume you know, but make sure its well seasoned, and if you want to add cheese to it use a cheddar that is aged but not overwhelmingly mature. i like a young(ish) welsh slate aged since they have excellent flavour but are gentle enough in their flavour to not totally fuck your dish. personally i dont tend to add cheese to the mash because it doesn't work as well as it does in a cottage pie. you can also brush the top if it with egg to ensure a properly crispy top, ideally you want to pipe the mash on but its not a big deal if you dont.

>> No.18848555

>>18848537
>shepards pie supposedly originated in ireland
Source: your ass

>> No.18848607

>>18848555
theres no way to truly know, hence the "supposedly"

>> No.18848674

>>18848607
Yeah, there's also no way to know whether it originated in Mozambique. But I'm gonna go ahead and say it didn't

>> No.18848684

>>18848454
It's traditionally an Irish dish. English stole it when they stole Irish land. Go enjoy something traditionally English like chicken tikka instead of claiming ownership of Irish shepherd's pie.

>> No.18848691

>>18847453
>advice from any british wankers
cottage pie is made with beef mince
shepherds pie is made with lamb mince

>> No.18848697

>>18848684
>t. """Irish""" American

>> No.18848709

>>18848697
No need to be jealous, chappy. England has a lot going for it without having to steal from others. Like a chip butty or beans or something. Why this obsession with trying to claim shepherd's pie? It's a little pathetic

>> No.18848735

Disregard this OP being that it’s your first attempt making Shepard’s Pie, but man I made chlebowski’s Indian Shepard’s pie the other day and it was phenomenal. Definitely worth a try if you’re into Indian flavors and Shepard’s pie

https://www.ethanchlebowski.com/cooking-techniques-recipes/shepherds-pie-except-its-irish-indian-fusion

>> No.18848745

>>18848674
i assumed i didn't have to say this because you were probably from the UK, but clearly you're not hence the retardation. Britain had involvement and control over Ireland starting in the 1100's, up until the Anglo-Irish war in the 1920s. Shepards Pie is said to have come about in the 1600's and 1700's. Anything remotely useful that came from Ireland would have been picked up by the British, and vice-versa.

>> No.18848758

>>18848745
Ah yes, so every British invention from that time period is automatically Irish because.. it just is, okay?

>> No.18848771

>>18848758
i'm sorry you have learning difficulties

>> No.18848781

>>18848771
Fuck off you cunt. Keep stealing British inventions to cope with the fact that Irish people are a tiny irrelevant island of losers. The things invented by Britain are too many to list, meanwhile Ireland has invented:
- Guinness
- and um.... uh....

>> No.18848807

>>18848781
>guinness
Stout porter, english beer.

>> No.18848988

>>18847453
lamb

>> No.18849555

Obligatory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwksxDHNoAE

>> No.18849582

>>18849555
disgusting and i only hovered over [embed]

>> No.18849591
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>>18849555
Very unworthy get.
Mediocre cooking, whore constantly taking up part of the screen, not even her singing, naturally starts with a cat walking all over the stove.

>> No.18849595

>>18847806
>tobacco
What kind of tobacco leaves are you putting on these pies anon?

>> No.18849596

>>18847453

It's made all over America, just cook beef with veggies, cover in mashed potatoes and bake it

it is very cheap honestly and especially common where people raise beef like Scotland or the USA

>> No.18849604

>>18848735
that looks very dank

>> No.18849606

>>18847484
lamb would definitely be the best

>> No.18849658

>>18849591
it isn't a "get" you fucking zoomer pile of garbage

>> No.18849770
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>>18848684
If we didn't steal it, someone else would have. The Irish as a people are manifestly incapable of governing themselves.

>> No.18849828

>>18847453
slow cook some beef stew meat..
add some ground veal
add some ground beef
let cool. save sauce..
defrost corn carrot pea mix.
put it in a salad spinner. add to your mince.

>> No.18850135

>>18848781
>and um.... uh....
Rampant alcoholism
>>18847453
>I am an American
Poor thing. How's your mobility scooter? Only joking mate. If I were you, I'd follow the bbc cottage pie recipe (you guys love bbc, don't you). Personally I prefer cottage pie and also, as someone said, American lamb is shit.

>> No.18850139

>>18849591
>trips is a get
Welcome newfriend!

>> No.18850523

>>18848781
>tiny irrelevant island of losers
Pot-Kettle...

>> No.18850597

>>18847453
SHEPHERD'S PIE IS MADE WITH MUTTON OR LAMB

COTTAGE PIE IS MADE WITH GROUND BEEF
Know the difference

>> No.18850602

>>18847900
tomacco?

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18850643

>>18847716
It's a shepherds pie, it uses lamb, john used lamb.
Retard

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18850703

Here you go. It's very important that when you make the mashed potatoes you make them ver very creamy. If they're too stiff they won't spread. And don't listen to any fuckers who tell you to substitute the lamb for beef.

>> No.18850955

>>18850703
>It's very important that when you make the mashed potatoes you make them ver very creamy.
Don't do this, it will make a huge slop. The mash has to be firmer than you normally would because of the liquid in the filling.

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>>18847799
>peas in the filling
>They should be on the side, Chef John is retarded in this case.
Help me out, is putting a part of the pie to the side, not separating part of the pie? Would this not make it a dish? Or is my reading comprehension so bad that "to the side" means something I am simply unaware of?

>> No.18851111

>>18851009
>Help me out, is putting a part of the pie to the side, not separating part of the pie?
Peas shouldn't be in shepherds pie in the first place.
>Would this not make it a dish? Or is my reading comprehension so bad that "to the side" means something I am simply unaware of?
Peas is an excellent side dish for for shepherds pie, so much that shepherds pie should be served with peas. Shepherds pie is both a pie, and a dish, just like pizza is pizza but also a dish.

>> No.18851117

Put egg yolk into the mash

>> No.18851396

>>18848781
Nobody in America even cares bout Brittan. Everyone wants to be Irish. Since American culture is the most important culture in the world, that makes Ireland way more important than Brittan and whatever culture they have left.

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>>18847453
Make the superior version

>> No.18851412

>>18847453
even though i prefer the north english variant, this one is amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leTZa4OGjgY

>> No.18851414

Use half a bottle or more of worchestshire sauce. Fuck it, use the whole bottle, it's not like anyone is going to actually eat it.

>> No.18851416

>>18851111
Why not put peas in the pie? How is pizza a dish?

>> No.18851439
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18851439

>>18851111
i believe they do it in their little filthy domiciles in and around london m8

>> No.18851491

>>18851416
>Why not put peas in the pie?
Because why would you? The filling should be meaty and peas are delicious. If you add a significant enough amount of peas to be able to enjoy the peas, the filling isn't meaty anymore. They should be served as a side dish
>How is pizza a dish?
Because it's a particular preparation of food.
>https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dish
>dish
>2 a : food prepared in a particular way